Dr. J and Tiny have a very good heart to heart, and it’s obvious that this poor woman is just broken down emotionally after having to spend her whole marriage lifting this guy up and taking care of him. She says, “I don’t have room for any more sadness.”
Dr. J asks Tiny if she thinks Jojo believes her about the ultimatum in the group meeting and Tiny, says “no.” Interesting.
Dr. J goes to find Jojo and he immediately on the defensive and angry with Dr. J and Tiny.
They all sit at the table and he directly confronts Tiny and asks her, “Something you want to say to me?”
When Dr. J tries to mediate the situation, he shuts her down. He blames Tiny’s tears on peer pressure from the group, and Tiny just cracks.
She raises her voice and says, “the truth is, I’m sick of this shit. I don’t want you drinking at all, and if that’s your choice you are choosing that over us.”
He says, “I didn’t come on this show for that. So let me tell it to your face, if you want to leave, then do just that.”
Are you all seeing what I’m seeing? How this guy is trying to turn it all around and put the burden of this on her? Making it her fault if it’s over? Damn, he’s good at being so manipulative.
I hope she does leave his ass, she’s way too good for him. He’s also very, very sick and Couples Therapy is not the place for him.
Okay, kiddies – what did you think of this episode? Are Doug and Courtney just shameless, pathetic jerks? (Yes!) Will Shayne and Nik get married FOR REAL?! (YES!) Why oh WHY is there not more Silex? And was Too Short kind of enjoyable this episode? Let me know what you think guys, only one more episode left!
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http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/11/jojo-tiny-split-couples-therapy-divorce
They split up. They had to. Watching that was awful and my heart went out to her.
@clouds: wow. Not surprised. But what I don’t like is them throwing shade at Dr. Jenn for this particular break up because she did the right thing by bringing his alcoholism to the forefront for Tiny’s sake. When this show started, Tiny was in denial and afraid to speak up for herself and you can see how over these few weeks Tiny’s been empowered and able to speak up for herself in this situation.
Good for Tiny! I agree the whole “curse” storyline was unnecessary.
If not for this show, she may have never left him, so it was a good thing.
Doug is sooo used to telling Courtney her clothes are “too small ” – he slipped and called Too Short too small. I got a chuckle out of that, even though he grossest me out most of the time. I cannot stand his wife’s fake laugh anymore, I’ll be glad when the shows over and I don’t have to see them anymore.
While JoJo tried to pull off the aloof minimally particpating husband – I’m telling you under the surface is a mean abusive drunk. You could see flashes of it when he thought he had privacy. Run Tiny Run!
Was Shayne alluding to the roses being a symbol or remembrance from her Bachelor days? Or Bachelorette…? I didn’t watch that season. Hell I’ve only watched two seasons. Maybe three. I’m babbling. Back to the recap!
It takes a strong person to leave a relationship that has been forged with denial and substance abuse, and probably abuse (from the small amount I’ve seen of Jojo reacting after group this episode…) in some form. So good for Tiny! I’m proud of her for leaving him and doing what is right for her and the kids. Unfortunately they are the hardest couple for me to watch, as my aunt was in an abusive relationship with an alcoholic asshole. Her only way out was her recent suicide. No matter what we did to get her to leave she wouldn’t leave \because of the kids\ and then because her son started mimicing her husband. She’s finally at peace now, just wish she had that peace while living.
Just like the asshole my aunt married, I hope Jojo realizes what he had and what he lost because he refused to deal with his issues and put someone else before him. What really gets me is that Jojo wouldn’t put his kids before him, let alone his wife, because I’m sure it’s affecting them as well.
Sorry for the emotional post.
Donald Trump was 12 years old in 1958 (yes, i googled it) so I highly doubt that the “Donald Trump Pageant” indstury even exisisted. Courtney is a dellusional whore.
Good one! Yes. Yes. I don’t know…I want more, too! And absolutely yes – quite entertaining!
@insanehousewife: I am so sorry about your aunt, that’s a tragedy nobody should go through
U r right about this situation, too. Tiny is in an abusive situation that’s painful to watch, especially as it slowly reveals itself.
@anyoops: I thought Shayne was talking about the roses being dead like her marriage. So funny to think she was talking about the Bachelor. I can’t watch that show, either.
insanehousewife, I’m so sorry for your loss and it makes good sense why you would be extra sensitive to the sad situation that played out with Tiny and JoJo. It’s heartbreaking watching her deep sadness and soul weariness, I’m sorry you had to watch your aunt go through the same..
I’m glad to see that Tiny left him, I hope he gets the help he needs and that she finds a life of greater freedom and peace for herself.
Doug’s mom doesn’t have to meet CS to see what she’s about, I’m sure she and the whole family have internet access and can see exactly what the deal is. Dourtney act so victimized by the family’s rejection without again taking a smidge of responsibility for why it could be happening.
Doug’s lack of awareness as to his primary impulsive attraction with ”damaged women” was horrifying to see in a man his age. He is basically grooming Courtney to be the ideal woman who isn’t going to go all damaged on him and he feeds her delusional self image as a renaissance woman. I felt so sad for him this episode. She will definitely be the one to leave him and move along in the public eye as the horror story that people can’t look away from, while he will fall further down than before he came out of the shadows with her. He did far more damage to his public perception than she has and that says a lot. She’s still young and gets some grace for that immaturity while he just seems mentally unstable and regressed. Men who always attract or choose or PREY on ”damaged women” are usually equally or way more damaged than those women and the only way to prove their sanity is to find someone who acts out more of the crazy so they can keep avoiding their issues.
Nick does seem to love Shayne but their love seems too immature to transcend the growing they need to do to make it and overcome their personal histories…I’m glad they have a child together and will be connected for life because I think they have something together that’s real, even if/when they split up.
These recaps are awesome eyediosmio, funny and spot on…
I feel horrible for Tiny, hard enough to fear that your spouse would choose drinking over you but for him to actually say that to you (and on a TV Show) would be devistating.
Nik and Shanye have won me over completely, I really hope they can work their issues out and learn how to talk to each other.
Doug’s session with the doc has me scratching my head in confusion…his history of dating damaged women does NOT include Courtney??? No undamaged teenaged girl/woman acts out like Courtney. Her mother’s interview only made it more obvious that something has been very very wrong with her family for a long time. (Did anyone else notice that the mother’s eyelashes looked like two spiders fighting?) They are both so creepy and refuse to acknowledge how they contribute to the “bullying” they are subjected to from so many people. STOP CALLING IT BULLYING!!!! it’s called good judgement, bounderies and common sense not abuse!
Fucking Courtney Stodden.
She was not ran out of town because she was “too hot” and all the guys were chasing her.
She fucked around with the wrong boyfriend.
Some women DO NOT take kindly to some chick pushing up on their man and will set out to destoy the usurper.
She engaged some young girl that was relentless in her wanting to beat the fuck out of Courtney, and she had a lot of friends that carried the “Courtney is a Whore” banner.
That is why she is homschooled as well.
You would think she learned her lesson…
You do realize Courtney was practically contractually obligated to deliver some version of the “bitches jus be jealous” excuse, right? ;-p
Jojo’s an asshole. My heart broke for Tiny when he tore into her about her speaking up in group, her silence was devastating because you just knew she was afraid to say something. I wanted her to kick him verbally, but she looked so broken. Ugh.
*Sigh* I hate myself for knowing this. Donald Trump owns the Miss Universe/Miss USA/Miss Teen USA Pageants, and has since the mid 90′s. Courtney did a Miss Teen USA Pageant at the state level, which what I think she was referring to.
I also hate defending Doug, but while he is creepy, he is most certainly *not* a pedophile. Courtney looks like a 30 year old hooker, and that’s the look he’s attracted to. If he was a pedophile, Courtney would be a flat-chested, short, child-like looking.
Jojo & Tiny break my heart.
There, there, SaraKate…don’t beat yourself up. I somehow managed to admit to my entire family over Thanksgiving dinner that I watch some of the Real Housewives shows. I got a lot of laughs and “you do NOT!”s. Of course, keep in mind MY family thinks Survivor is classy reality TV watching (I watch that, too).
Oh, and I totes agree with you about Doug.
Interesting point yall bring up about doug. I’m kinda seeing what you’re saying. In her case age is just a number. Her clothing, hair, make up and actions make her appear no where near her chronological age. If anything she looks and acts 40….albeit a vacuous, hooker type 40 but nonetheless……
LOL, Thanks AmyOops for making me feel better!
And, exactly, cherrylipgloss. Pedophiles, by definition, are attracted to pre-pubescent children, which Courtney most certainly is not! Now, their relationship is still pretty screwed up, because emotionally and mentally, they should be in very different developmental stages, but they’re not!
by the time i get down here i forget everything i was going to say.
anyway, that is sad to actually see for sure that Jojo and tiny are divorcing. it had to be done though if he wasnt getting better. I hope she is ok.
Also I LOLed at the Courtney Stodden show and her explanation afterwards. Like what. the. heck. I did not even know they let random people have local TVshows anymore. I dont know if it is just my area or what but we have local shows that are in actual local studios. I mean not like high production value or anything but they would never let some trash like her be on one. They do stuff like cooking or kids story time. And then her story about the pageant… just too much… I want to know what really happened though to lead her to this delusion! Or is it all completely made up?
I have been so overwhelmed by the amount of dysfunctionalfuckedupness available in one show that my adderall is no longer effective at helping me organize my thoughts. I have been unable to clean one room at a time since episode 3.
The recaps are amazing. I am in awe of your ability to concentrate while being given so much material to snark on.
You guys, I know so much stupid backstory on “celebs,” it’s not even funny. AND it’s not because I recap for TVGasm, I am just that weird. It’s embarrassing!
@Bedhead, I am so glad you are enjoying the recaps, this is my first time recapping and I live for making all of you laugh. Plus, these asshats make it so EASY! Right?
And I really appreciate everyone’s contributions regarding Doug not being “entirely” a pedophile b/c Miss Thang likes to dress like Tamra Barney from Real Housewives. . . really kind of puts it in perspective, although tell it to the Judge I say. He’s still a frikkin weirdo.
No sweat, SaraKate lol. WTF do they even TALK about, anyway? Classic rock? Cars? Old TV shows? High school in the seventies? Necking at the drive-in? For fuck’s sake he was starting to get grey pubes before she was a glint in her daddy’s eye! Gross.
“dysfunctionalfuckedupness” – Jen, I may not be able to control myself and have to steal this word. Love it!!
oh he most def is still the weirdest of weidos
@eyediosmio-You are doing a great job. Not only do you make me laugh, but you’ve made the other voices in my head laugh as well.
@Amy-;)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/28/courtney-stodden-couples-therapy_n_2206125.html?utm_hp_ref=celebrity
check this out! Nik says that Courtney is on prescription drugs? What do you guys think? I think it is possible.