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Wednesday, July 4, 2012
11:42 pm
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Tagged: Bee Costumes, clip show, Crazy Cathy, Dance Moms, filler, Fourth of July, FREE VIVI, Jabby Lee Miller, Lifetime, recap, SnoopK8, tvgasm
The founding fathers would be so proud!
Happy Fourth of July, Gasmii!
So happy to live in a country that gives us Jabby Lee Miller and the semi-train wreck that is Dance Moms. As promised, this week was a clip show that didn’t do much anything to advance the fake storyline, but it was fun to watch actual dancing instead of crazy bitchez gettin’ all up in people’s faces.
Here’s a quick summary with some links to past recaps. If you haven’t read Pottymouth’s recaps in awhile, I highly recommend it, because they are HILARE. Otherwise, get your butts out to the beach with a beer and a hot dog and get your independence on.
Side note: Apologies to PAYTON for spelling her name wrong throughout the entire recap last week. Please don’t hunt me down and kill me, Leslie.
Okay, let’s get to Jabby’s Dance-a-Thon, in which she counts down her top ten routines from “worst” to best, giving us some commentary along the way. She will also show us some “disasters” and some other surprise extras.
10. At number ten, we have Pinup Girls from the very first episode. This was a trio by Maddie, Chloe and Paige. Jabby says the number was “sabotaged” by Christi being drunk and not properly fastening Chloe’s hairpiece, causing it to fall in Chloe’s face and ruin Jabby’s life. This is the episode where Jabby had to drag Kelly and Christi out of the bar in order to get their girls ready for the competition, which obviously cemented my love for this show immediately. They had me at “your mom’s a drunk.”
9. Ninth is the notorious Bumblebee dance by Vivi. (FREE VIVI!) I don’t know how this number isn’t tenth, since it’s WAY WORSE in so many ways than the hairpiece incident. (And by “worse” I mean totally awesome.)
FREE… well, you know…
If you’ll recall, Jabby had taught Vivi a routine, but Cathy pre-empted it and made her do her own (horrible) choreography. It also sets the stage for the Bee Costume Showdown in season two.
8. Number eight is the Jailbreak Cellblock Tango ripoff that came in tenth place (to Cathy’s ninth) and caused Jabby such despair at the end of season 2A. That was the competition where Maddie freaked out and ran off the stage. (Of course, I know you all know that because it just happened a couple of months ago.) I really love the song for that number, but I can’t seem to find it anywhere. Does anyone know what it’s called?
7. Number seven is Brooke’s Garden of Eden number from season two.
6. Sixth is My Pumps from season one. This is the number that features Nia’s awesome Death Drop. I remember the death drop, but I don’t remember this routine. I think that’s because I watched most of season one in a booze-filled haze. (Hey don’t judge, it was summer.) Okay, I can’t find a recap with this routine, so here is the recap where she learns the death drop.
5. Fifth place is Chloe’s Dream on a Star solo. Jabby uncharacteristically has only great things to say about Chloe, including that she is the “whole package” and she will make it in the dance world. I really love being able to see these dances in their entirety. [Note: This is actually the same recap as the previous one.]
4. In fourth is Maddie’s Angel dance from season one, which was dedicated to her late grandma.
3. Third is the awesome Black Swan duet with Maddie and Chloe from season one.
2. Second place is My Beauty (which I don’t remember at all), which brought them the “National” title last season. [Same as before]
1. Finally, at number one, we have Where Have All the Children Gone? from season one. This one I DO remember, but I forgot how freaking creepy it was. This was (unintentionally) hilarious in that it featured Mackenzie pushing Vivi (FREE VIVI!) on a swing – not the first (or the last) time Vivi will be used as a human prop.
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Has anyone ever seen Abby actually teaching? Not bellowing orders and screaming criticism, but teaching a dance step or move, teaching the choreography?
I’ve only watched a few episodes, so may have missed seeing the teaching portion of class.
I doubt that Abby can bend her knees, get up on her toes, spin, jump, reach, kick or bend at the waist. So how can she teach the basics of dance?
Do her students come to her only when they’re at an advanced level? Does she use videos and charts to teach positions and moves that she can’t possibly demonstrate physically?
I liked this episode solely because I was able to watch more of the dances. Some in their entirety, which was great!! Some of them you could see from different angles, or they panned on someone different, so I liked the episode for that. If you could just leave Abby out of it, her and her commentaries, then that would have been much better, but, oh well.. One thing that bugs me though (even though I know I shouldn’t care, because she is Abby Lee and doesn’t have to make sense or be logical at all) was that she put as he WORST dance the pin-up girl dance where Chloe’s headpiece comes off. WHAT?? First of all, the trio won first place, Chloe was AWESOME seeing how she danced beautifully- even doing aerials- blindfolded basically, and never missed a beat. She showed what a professional she could be out there on the stage. She continued doing her dance, and doing it beautifully, even though the poor kid couldn’t see a thing. That realy says something. That says more than a CD skipping and continuing to dance in my opinion.. But, what do I know, I’m no Abby Lee, that’s for sure. It just bugged me that she put that dance as the WORST– then she put what really WAS the worst dance as number 9. So Abby is telling us that Vivi’s dance was BETTER than the pin-up girl dance??? If that is truly what she thinks she is more delusional than what I previously had thought.. Not only couldn’t Vivi even dance the most simple (and awful) choreography, but she looks so absolutely miserable when they show a close-up of the poor kid’s face. She’s trying to smile, but looks like, “please save me, take me out of here, let me go play softball, please!” I felt bad for her because it was so obvious she didn’t want to be doing it, and in all honesty, she isn’t a dancer. In my opinion, she doesn’t seem to have the drive and more importantly the natural talent to become a professional dancer. Let the poor girl play softball!! She’s proably awesome in softball! Okay, enough about that, but that bugged me. Rant over, for now.
Hope you all had a nice 4th of July!!
Too-old:
From what I have been reading, Jabby’s assistant,( http://www.dancershalloffame.com/dance-moms/gianna-martello), does some/ most of the choreography and others do the teaching. She seems to be busy doing other stuff until the cameras show up. Some of the information you are seeking might be found in recap comments here or on dancemom.
I HATE the way Jabby talks about Christie. I know the show is faked to hell but surely the comments hurt Chloe.
Free Vivi!
SnoopK8′s Bumblebee segment was hilarious as it was pure revisionism….Bumblebee was *Abby*’s choreo! Or at least that is what the show said at the time.
In one of the early episodes, Cathy insisted Vivi do her old choreo from Cathy because she thought Vivi wasn’t ready to do the new stuff she had learned from Abby yet, so Cathy substituted her Cowgirl routine for Abby’s Bumblebee. Then in the next episode (or possibly a couple after) was when Vivi finally did Bumblee, and Abby gloated some that under her, Vivi did new choreo that her own mom didn’t think she could hande yet. And then at awards Vivi received some token award, and when asked about her studio and choreographer, she named Candy Apples and Cathy … which totally freaked Abby who said (again) that it was *her* routine.
Watch the old eps, or just take a look at PM’s very early recaps. Clearly either Abby or the producers or both were trying to pull something by mashing both incidents together.
Hey, SnoopK8…
The Bumblebee segment was hilarious as it was pure revisionism….Bumblebee was *Abby*’s choreo! Or at least that is what the show said at the time.
In one of the early episodes, Cathy insisted Vivi do her old choreo from Cathy because she thought Vivi wasn’t ready to do the new stuff she had learned from Abby yet, so Cathy substituted her Cowgirl routine for Abby’s Bumblebee. Then in the next episode (or possibly a couple after) was when Vivi finally did Bumblee, and Abby gloated some that under her, Vivi did new choreo that her own mom didn’t think she could hande yet. And then at awards Vivi received some token award, and when asked about her studio and choreographer, she named Candy Apples and Cathy … which totally freaked Abby who said (again) that it was *her* routine.
Watch the old eps, or just take a look at PM’s very early recaps. Clearly either Abby or the producers or both were trying to pull something by mashing both incidents together.
Oh yeah, and if you think about it, the whole thing about the Bee costume was about Abby wanting *her* Bee costume back. Okay, I’m done.
>I really love the song for that number, but I can’t seem to find it anywhere. Does anyone know what it’s called?
Google for: hurt them first full song
(Unless you meant the song for the “real” Cell Block Tango from Chicago, in which case look for that.)
I am NOT looking forward to seeing Candy Apples back next week. The woman makes my skin crawl.
@Dani you have expressed my thoughts better than I could on all points. Chloe in Pin-up Girl was a total pro. Much harder doing aerials blind than dancing to a skipped CD. As usual, Free Vivi!
@Corinthia, ahh foiled again by the producers! I do vaguely remember some drama about the cowgirl/bee routine, but it’s been so long since I watched. This ep made me realize I need to sit down and watch a season 1 marathon ASAP. And thanks for the song tip. I will check it out.
@Dani, completely agree about Pinup Girls! Sooooo not the worst! This show makes my head hurt.
@Dani
“That says more than a CD skipping and continuing to dance in my opinion”
I thought the SAME thing when I was watching. I was so impressed with Chloe for keeping up blindfolded!
I don’t get why Lifetime doesn’t take all this extra footage of the dances and put it on their website for fans to see. The dances get a lot of hits on youtube. It seems like an obvious idea to get more traffic to the site and keep fans interested.
From PM’s recap “Candied Assles”:
“Back in the dressing room Paige gets ready for her solo and Kelly is pissed that she still hasn’t seen her kid’s costume. Jabby hasn’t seen the finished product yet either. Paige puts it on and it’s too big… … Kelly wants to know why this always happens to her kids. She’s sick of it…. She doesn’t even have a chair! She’s using a hotel chair. If it was anyone else they’d have a hot pink fucking chair decorated with rhinestones or some shit!! … Kelly says they should just pull the number. Jabby asks Paige if that’s what she really wants. Yes.”
Hmm, sound familiar?!
Ever since I 1st saw this show I kept harping on how Chloe needed to get put in a regular class.
Till the other day I was looking at all the comments and Tweets etc about this show. All over the internet it’s 1 of the most talked about. And it finally hit me. I bet I won’t ever understand her generation’s world view.
But my opinion’s so old school it’s way past its freshness date.
The Jabby show’s already made her way more famous than she’d get even if she took regular class every day till she grew up. Then got a job in a company. And turned into a principal dancer.
@Wednesday– I agree! They SHOULD put the dances on their lifetime channel. I would love to watch the whole dances, and I’m sure others would too. I also go on that channel the day after the show to watch the “unaired” clips.. If they had those dances on there, they would have a lot of action on their website, definitely.
@kthxbai– Yes, I agree that Chloe is quite “famous” right now because of the show, but it’s not really a lasting fame, more like a 15 minutes of fame, so I DO think she should get into some real classes- some good ballet technique classes- to help her to become a serious professional dancer in the future, if that’s what she desires of course. Right now they are all enjoying the attention and fame, I’m sure, but in a few years it’ll be over and then what?? I worry for them what they may think when they are older and if they can look back on comments or articles about the show. I’ve seen some really mean stuff written about the girls, and definitely the moms (of course), and even seeing how Abby has treated them (Chloe in particular). I wonder how Chloe will feel at 14, at 18, at 30..? I do think that most of the girls do have wonderful mothers (even though a bit nutty, I think they truly love their daughters and that’s part of what makes them act so crazy- if that makes any sense.. kinda a protective mama bear instinct that makes them act crazy). I’m not putting Melissa in this category. I don’t know what category she would be in, but she’s just way out there and the worst in the mom department on so many levels (IMO). I feel for Maddie and Mackenzie cause I don’t feel like they have someone there to really protect them, but that’s another discussion…
Back to the fame issue… I just think that they are all having this bit of fame right now, but if they are serious about being professional dancers (and I think some of them, if not all, have the talent to be professional dancers) then at some point they need to move away from this type of thing. I was very disappointed to hear that Chloe most likely will not go to the Joffrey summer intensive because of filming. That is where it’s obvious that the short amount of fame is getting in the way of something that would really be a great opportunity in preparing to professional dance- especially if one has any aspirations to be a ballet dancer, which is much more difficult than many other forms of dance and needs to begin early.. I was disappointed in hearing about this. If she was my daughter, I think I would try to do anything and everything possible to make sure she attends that summer intensive.
Okay, sorry for going on and on.. This show gets to me..
Chloe’s “Dream on a Star” is by FAR my favorite solo. I just adore it. I love when she stops and pretends to watch the star falling. I love the costume her hair the choreography, everything. It was nice hearing Abby gush about Chloe for once.
LOL at “your mom’s a drunk!” aren’t all the fun moms the drunk ones?
Oh I also loved Paige’s solo they showed that never made it on screen. I loved her costume and the balloon. So cute. I wish they would give her more dancing in solos and less acro though. She can do the dancing. Just let her do that in a solo!
Like everyone else Pin Up Girls is my fav trio they did so yeah, not the worst.
I watched this with my mother who is a huge fan of the show. Except she has no internet and it was interesting hearing her reactions to everything. She took it all at face value. I didn’t want to burst her bubble about how most of it is faked or whatever. So I guess I see how a lot of their viewers view the show.
Is Chloe really not going to the Joffrey because of filming? Because that’s way more than disappointing if that’s true.
@maryedith– that’s what Christ said. Not sure if it was in an interview or twitter, but I definitely remember that because I have been wondering what was happening with that. I was so happy that she would have that opportunity, but Christi said that most likely they were not going to be able to take advantage of the opportunity because of filming. Very disappointed!!
There is no excuse that I will buy for Chloe not going to the Joffrey.
yeah that stinks
I remember seeing Melissa post on her twitter that Maddie would not be able to take advantage of her scholarship because they were filming, so I assume it will be the same for Chloe. That’s a real shame for both of them.
@Dani and @maryedith That’s what I mean. About old school thinking. After this show she’ll get on more shows. Or maybe a commercial or another video. Doing any kind of dancing that gets on TV’s what her generation’ll think of as being a successful serious dancer.
They wouldn’t want to take every day for the next 10-12 yrs. Plus have to go sit in a different class where somebody’s talking about how Tchaikovsky put the Swan Lake music together. Or how Maria Tallchief did whatever.
Specially not when they could be in a music video.
@kthxy, I hear you. I’m afraid that I feel very guilty and sleazy right now for watching this show.
@maryedith 1st of all, I watch Bristol Palin’s new show.
Which means if they had StarBooty contests for tv viewing sleaziness anybody that signed up for the same 1 as me would just end up embarrassed. While I walked off with a big acrylic crystal crown on.
2nd of all none of us needs to feel guilty for watching this show. Because it goes so far beyond 1 little girl being talented. Or Jabby or Lifetime. It’s the whole world view. It’s not even just that their whole generation’s never going to know what it’s like to not have everything they do or say slapped up in everybody in the world’s face. That so much as touches a piece of plastic. (Even having to push a button’s old school now)
Anyway, it goes even deeper than that. To their ideas of what things like talent and art mean. And what they are. Even when they’re 100 yrs old that stuff’ll still be way different for them than for us. I don’t mean different like all the kinds of music and art in the world. Or different like every generation’s favorite styles in music and clothes.
I mean a world view and frame of reference so far from ours they might as well have been born on another planet. To the point of even some of the most basic feelings being either opposite. Or just a 404.
Like blowing off Joffrey to be on a reality show about who wins this week’s StarBooty.
Because StarBooty is their Joffrey. Those little quinceañera dances Jabby sets up for them are their Swan Lake. And Twitter’s their Paris Opera Ballet.
I understand what you’re saying, but the thing is the Joffrey was offered to them. And because this show gets good ratings, which I contribute to by watching it, they turned it down. I mean, Christi and Melissa turned it down because ultimately the responsibility for that lies with them and not the girls. I’m of course suspicious of the whole thing now, because they must have known what the filming schedule would be. I’d hate to think the prestigious Joffrey !!! would agree to offer slots to the girls on the understanding that they wouldn’t take them up on it, but the whole thing was too much a replay of Chloe getting that video at the end of season one after those “auditions” for me not to think the whole thing was another fake storyline. And if it was real, then Christi is just…I’m sorry, I have no words for what I think of a mother who would expose her daughter to the bullshit of this show and then not even let her take advantage of something real that comes her way because of it.
I think I’ll just go watch Anne Bancroft and Shirley McClaine pull each other’s hair in The Turning Point for the umpteenth time. Now, there’s some good dance drama!
I really don’t think the Joffrey was faking anything. I just think they are much too prestigous a school for serious dancers, and I don’t think they would be a part of something like that. I also don’t think (I’m giving them the benefit of the doubt..) that the moms knew they would be filming and not be able to take advantage of the offer. I hope not! Still, I think the moms should put their foot down and have them work around it. I think it’s only for a couple of weeks. I don’t know, but I think this cold mean big things, especially for Chloe. My understanding is the Chloe was offered the more prestigous ballet school scholarship in New York and Maddie was offered the Mia Michaels Jazz scholarship in L.A. Who knows? Maybe they’ll get to make it, but last I heard it didn’t sound that way, and that’s very disappointing.
I’m actually not a reality show person. I happened upon this show by mistake back in Season 1 and have been addicted ever since.. I feel like I know these girls at this point and really want to see them succeed. I would be quite happy with less mama drama and more dancing. Also, much less Abby and Cathy would be great!!
Dani, I’d heard rumors that they got different scholarships, but on the ALDC website it says that “Maddie Ziegler & Chloe Lukasiak were awarded Full Tuition Scholarships to the Joffrey/ Mia Michaels 2 week Intensive in Los Angeles.” So it sounds like they both got the same scholarship in LA and some older girl got one in NY.
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@Wednesday– I don’t believe a lot of what they say on that website. Maybe the Mia Michaels jazz intensive was offered to both Chloe and Maddi, but I’m pretty sure that in addition to that, Chloe (only Chloe) was offered a spot at the Joffrey ballet chool summer intensive in NYC. Yes, there was another girl who received a scholarship to New York, who is older. I think they want to put it out that Maddie also got something, so they are making it as if they both received these scholarship, when in reality (as far as I know) only Chloe was offered the special Ballet summer intensive. I could see Abby not wanting to post this on her website, so maybe would sound better for her to say that both Maddie and Chloe recieved a scholarship. We all know Maddie is her favorite, so maybe she doesn’t want to put on display that Chloe actually did do better and was offered the real deal. Who knows though.. ?
What makes you think that Chloe got a better scholarship, though? I haven’t seen anything concrete that suggests that, just rumors without a source that don’t seem very reliable. The website posts results to competitions where Chloe beat Maddie, so I don’t know why they’d lie about this to try and make Maddie look better. That seems incongruous to me. And there are lots of special mentions of the awards Chloe has won. There are even multiple pictures of Chloe and none of Maddie. Those awards make Abby look better, so why wouldn’t she include a prestigious ballet scholarship if Chloe actually got one? Abby cares about her reputation more than anything, so it’s not at all in line with her character to hide something that would make her dance company look good.
kthxbai, something else… want to be a rich and famous dancer? learn to sing.
who are the most “successful” dancers, if we define success in terms of fame and fortune?
Arguably I would say: Madonna, Paula Abdul, and J Lo.
All professional dancers who had just enough vocal ability and the connections to cut a record…
(Madonna noticeably got vocal lessons later, after she hit the big time.)
@Wednesday– I am not sure re: scholarship, it’s just what I’ve heard. I have heard that Chloe’s scholarship was different from one of the moms (either Christi or Kelly) probably on twitter. Not saying Chloe’s is “better,” just different than Maddie’s. It could partly be because of their age. I think Maddie may not even have been eligible for the ballet summer intensive because she is only 9. Chloe was 10, but just turned 11, so maybe they were going to let her in as an 11 year old (I think you’re really supposed to be 12). I think Maddie turns 10 at the end of summer. That could be part of it, though I do think if it came down to choosing between Maddie and Chloe in terms of who has more promise in the ballet department, I think they would go with Chloe. She has a lot of promise as a ballet dancer.
As far as Abby… She has often done things to make Chloe look bad- especially when it comes down to Chloe vs. Maddie. She talks abou her reputation, blah, blah, blah, but I’ve seen how she is and she is very contrary to some of the things she says. I could see her not wanting to post that Chloe received something more prestigious than Maddie.. Also easier to just say they both received scholarship to summer intensive, even though they are different types. That makes her look good to say they both got one, she doesn’t need to get into the details that one is in NYC and strictly ballet and the other in LA and more jazz. It doesn’t really matter anyway. I’m just disappointed because I personally think that Chloe has what it takes to be a ballerina but this is the age she needs to be training in that discipline, if that’s what she’s interested in, and doing the joffrey ballet summer intensive would have been a great opportunity for her to see if she may like to go down that path, get some good training, and there’s always the bonus of getting away from the toxic environment of what is Abby Lee. They are both very talented dancers, but I think Chloe has an advantage in the ballet department, and would have loved to see her get that opportunity..
Since everyone seems to love Dream on a Star ( I do, too!) here’s the full solo for your enjoyment.
Wednesday, I have to agree with you about what the ALDC website says. I think it would more embarrassing for Abby to admit, after all the drama of last season, that it was all made up about Chloe getting something better than Maddie. I mean, more embarrassing than saying one of her students got a prestigious scholarship.
I love reading the comments here! Every time I go to the lifetime site I’m reminded of this. Anyway, I get annoyed when people are adamant that Chloe needs to seriously study ballet because then I feel I’m the only one who remembers her saying she wants to be a rockette. As a kid my grandma was always telling me and myy mom that I needed to learn how to play piano because I have “piano fingers.” I never did because I have no interest in it. And my orchestra teacher (I played violin for 9 years) was disappointed that I didn’t choose to go to a music college because when I tried I was awesome. Thing is, I didn’t try because I chose the wrong instrument when I was 11 and by high school hated the violin parts, I was only happy in the 3rd violin (transcribed viola) section. Maybe I had a natural talent for it, but it wasn’t going to make me happy. (If anyone cares, I did find an instrument that makes me happy in college–the Japanese koto. It’ll never pay my bills or make me famous but I just adore playing and listening to it)
That said, I do agree that she’s probably a natural ballerina, but if she really wanted to do the intensive she’d talk her mom into at least trying to convince the producers. They could work it into the storyline that Christi left the studio “for good” then a few weeks later came back because she changed her mind or Chloe missed ALDC too much. It’s not an impossible issue they just don’t seem to care enough to get creative about it.
I don’t feel I am adament about Chloe studying ballet; however, I feel strongly that she should be given the opportunity to see if that’s something she may like to pursue, especially since she is probably a natural ballerina. I’ve always said only if that was something she wanted to do.. I know she had mentioned wanting to be a rockette in the past, but she was like 8 or 9 when she said that and she has also said she wanted to be a Doctor and has said she wanted to be a television actress, a professional dancer– so, like most little kids, she has said she wants to do a lot of things. I don’t think at her age you need to know exactly what you want to do. I just wanted her to have that experience of what ballet would be like, and then she if she likes it and wants to pursue it, or not.. If not, then fine, but at least she had that experience and knows what it’s all about. It’s a wonderful opportunity for her!
Not speaking of you specifically, Dani, just that I see so many people saying it all the time that it’s started to bother me a bit. She did say it in the Lake Tahoe episode (so she was 10? I think) and I know kids change their minds a lot but if at 11 I was given the chance to study singing with a famous coach or something and it looked like our schedules wouldn’t allow it, I would have begged and pleaded with my mom to do everything in her power to make it work. I don’t have a problem with you because you do say ‘if she wants to’ but a lot of people don’t and act like Christi is a terrible mother because she hasn’t forced Chloe to leave (when she’s told Christi doesn’t want to) and enroll her in a serious ballet academy full time. Just seems presumptuous.
But it’s just a two-week summer intensive program, right? The thing is, I’ve just spent a ridiculous amount of time trying to figure out exactly what Chloe or Maddie got scholarships to. The fact is, the only place besides Twitter that says anything factual is the ALDC website. I am totally confused, and maybe the dance experts could help me out here, because apparently the Joffrey Academy of Ballet said on their Facebook page that they had nothing to do with Dance Moms. That was the Joffrey Ballet School, which is not associated with the Joffrey Academy. I don’t know why it isn’t associated with the Academy, since it was founded by…Robert Joffrey in 1959. According to the couple of comments that pointed this out, the Ballet School is nowhere near as prestigious as the Academy. Then, there is total confusion as to which scholarship was won by each girl. I had trouble believing that a really prestigious ballet school would be scouting at dance competitions, and it was RIDICULOUS that the “scout” just happened to be sitting right behind the moms at that competition. I’ve noticed that no one on these other sites seems to want to linger on these points. Everyone wants so badly to believe in what the show is selling. But I don’t think any of it was real. I think this Joffrey Ballet School got some publicity for this new Mia Michaels intensive thing and Dance Moms got another chance to show Underdog Chloe beating Maddie out at the end of the season. @AshleyS and Kthxy are right; none of these girls or their mothers have any interest whatsoever in ballet.
@Corinthia You’re right. And if they can also at least learn to imitate some acting even better. Because it’s true the internet’s made it where more people can get discovered. But it’s also even more of a buyer’s market. And the buyers all want a triple threat. To the point where single threats get passed over. Even when they’re more talented. And enough presence and showmanship talent can even beat out a triple threat. Since that’s the part you can’t teach a lick of. But that’s
the story of Justin Biebera different tangent.@AshleyS I’ve been 1 of those people. Till I got hit with all those thoughts. What’s got me laughing at myself though is that I bet I’m the least ballet centric person here! It was me that
had that hissy fitgave everybody carpal tunnel scrolling past another long ass pain pill assisted tangentmade a comment about how ballet’s just 1 little dot on the world map of dance styles. (If you saw Dance Moms Miami they had this 1 little girl. That was getting tuned up to grow up drop dead gorgeous. But with a regular body style and short legged. So putting her in anything ballet based was just stupid. She was like 9 and already getting problems because of people calling her fat.)But I 100% agree with you that picking the show was Chloe’s choice. I don’t think her mom would make her go to Joffrey. Or any regular ballet school. If she wanted to do the show real bad. Or the other way around either. I also think you’re right that Lifetime would’ve made it part of the story line.
Not that I’m a big fan of any of the moms. But I do think Christi’s got enough sense to know there’d be no point in forcing her either way. And even if she didn’t the people from the ballet school (whichever 1 it was) would spell it out for her. That those intensives aren’t the same as the neighborhood dance or piano class people make kids go to. Whether they want to or not. To get some poise and be well rounded. Or when schools make them sit through algebra.
And even reality show producers know you can’t do a damn thing with a kid that’s miserable. Contract or not. It’d be more trouble than it’s worth.
@maryedith I know what you’re saying. You’re just 1 person but if everybody did it etc. But tv shows get $ from sponsors. So you’ll end up having more effect if you do watch the show. But notice what the commercials are for. And buy a different kind.
(If you want to make an even stronger statement you can tell other people how much better you like that different kind. Because it gave even the toughest stains more confidence. And friendly customer service with a doctor tested chunky texture that kills more germs without tell tale bulges)
The issue with pin up girls wasn’t that it was a bad dance or that Chloe messed up (because she didn’t). It was that Abby had to drag Christi and Kelly out of the bar. When Chloe’s headband began to fall, Kelly cackled loudly. So, I think Abby thought Christi and Kelly were laughing about it. And then when Abby confronted Christi, instead of admitting she ought to have seen to it, Christi just argued.
I think the editors showed us some events in the wrong order. I don’t know if Chloe got ready partly, mostly, or entirely by herself. Whatever the case, her headband was slipping forward before she even stepped on stage. So, I think earlier in the episode (original) when Abby is telling the girls to ask for a bobby pin backstage or even get one off the floor when they were lined up for group dance, it was due to Chloe’s experience. Then she said that part about what if she was in NYC and ice skating was open and she fell 13 stories because she couldn’t see… referred to Chloe doing her aerial blind. Yes, she did it properly, but she could’ve been hurt.
I think it made Abby mad that Christi just seemed blase about it. If Chloe had misjudged where the floor was, she might have landed wrong. If Paige or Maddie had been out position, she could’ve crashed into one of them, then two girls are hurt. There are several things that could’ve gone wrong that were outside of Chloe’s control no matter how well she danced. And affixing the headpiece would have kept her from even worrying.
My fiance said he thought Abby didn’t like Chloe being kind of embarrassed because she’s a pretty pin up girl in the dance and her headband is hiding her face. Someone did write on a blog that they’d been in one of Abby’s numbers (she was a guest choreographer) and that whatever else, Abby doesn’t want anyone to be embarrassed.
So, I took number ten to be a reminder that as good of a job as the dancers do, if they don’t go on stage prepared and something goes wrong, it detracts from the number. If nothing else, it distracts the viewer because some of their attention is attracted to this silly headband.
Also, if I was Abby, I probably would have lost my mind at the loud cackle … poor Chloe hearing that! I am sure she’s over it now, but to be dancing and a grown woman is shrieking with laughter… ugh.
And Kelly and Christi were drinking that whole first episode. They were not falling down drunk, but they were past tipsy. Nannie, if you are here, they were. I saw. I was in a fraternity and I think I know from tipsy. I hadn’t seen that first episode before.
In the first episode, Christi already has exactly the complaints she has now. And in an interview later, after she had time to think about the headband incident, she said she didn’t care if Chloe NEVER DANCES AGAIN. But, she (Christi) won’t be talked to that way. What?
Anyway, pin up girls being tenth is not a slam against Chloe. It is saying Chloe deserved bettter, and the trio (Chloe, Paige, and Maddie) deserved better from the moms.
I don’t know why time was even wasted on Vivi and the bee costume. Ugh. If it was necessary to show something individually for Vivi, SURELY there is something else. I don’t know… didn’t she do a duet with Mackenzie? Use that. Of course, then someone would be mad about Mackenzie being featured too much, um, did she do a duet with Nia maybe? I thought someone said she did, but I never saw it.
Speaking of Nia, why, of all of the things she’s done the Laquifa dance? At least show the part where Shangela comes in to the song so it shows it’s supposed to be totally over the top. It was nice Abby called out the death drop and explained why Nia does it. Although Nia is moving past that now… (sniff). I would have loved to see the lion/lion tamer dance. She and Big Mack were so, so adorable. And Nia’s marching around made the dance as much as Mack’s super cute little lion. Not to mention all the tricks they did.
I love Chloe’s Wish Upon a Star. She was so beautiful in her costume and did such a wonderful job. I HATE that Taylor was made to dance to the same song. Let Taylor have her own song, cathy!
I like Maddie’s Angel dance. Melissa tweeted not long ago about “bobcha”, so I think this show was near the anniversary of her death.
I like the black swan/white swan routine. That dance changed everything because a light went off in Abby’s head that Chloe likes playing dark characters and is really good at it.
I was so happy to see a special routine for Paige that we’d never seen before. Yay, Paigey! And to see Brooke’s apple dance.
I love the secret agent dance and the girls freaking loved it, too! You can tell when they’re really into a dance, they all put something extra into it.
I think I have seen the My Beauty dance more than anything else. Next time, I am going to dance along with them (at home, I won’t wander onto stage with them). I hate that song. Hate it. But, the dance is nice. Abby likes props a lot, I guess.
And Where Have All the Children Gone… it always freaks me out when Paige jumps off the stage. And when somehow Brooke is the last one left because Vivi and Mackenzie just disappear without much fanfare. Also, given how creepy weird Brooke is at the beginning…hmmm.. and she runs off at the end. So weird. Haha
Hi DM fans and closet fans! I’ve never posted anything anywhere before (but I love reading SnoopK8′s recaps – they are hilarious)! But I just had to put in my two cents after I read gun kata’s comments about the dances shown on the Dance-A-Thon because the lion/lion tamer dance is one of my all-time favorites! The “coshtumes” were outstanding and the way the adorable little lion walked behind the lion tamer off the stage was an “aw-w-w-w” – that’s SO CUTE! (I really liked the secret agent dance, too – it was a fun to watch, well done number!) Ok, thanks for letting me share. Best regards.
Hey katwoman, you say “thanks” as if this is a private party or something! I sure hope it doesn’t come across like that. I loved the secret agent dance too, and it was nice to have everyone be positive about something for a full MINUTE or so afterward, wasn’t it?
I also wanted to be a Rockette. So I totally get where Chloe is coming from. I was never that into ballet. I liked tap and high kicking and splits and that stuff. Too bad I was too short. That was the only thing I might have been able to do professionally when it came to dance besides choreograph.
I keep reading comments about people being too short for ballet. Apparently the average height worldwide is 5’4″-5’6″. I’ve known two professional ballerinas and they were both below 5’5″. My mother had to stop dancing because she got too tall. I know there are dancers like Darcy Bussell who is 5’8″ but I thought she was an exception. Anyway, I was wondering if times had changed? @April, I know you weren’t talking about ballet but that reminded me that I had meant to ask about this.
I am not sure about height with ballet. You do have to have really long legs and slender build. I have boobs and hips even when 115 pounds so not good for ballerinas. They have like hardly any boobs or hips.
For Rockettes you have to be between 5’7 and 5’10 I think or something like that. I am only 5’5.
If you look close to the top of the link Wednesday posted you can see their summer schedule (my bad, their “National Summer Tour” amongst a lot of boring info there is a line that states: A Lucky few will get to the Joffrey Ballet West / Mia Michaels intensive in California from July 21 – July 27, 2012
So this whole, Maddie and Chloe not attending the summer intensive that they worked so hard for gets even more confusing. I agree that the validity of the info we are given on that sight is questionable, but what do you guys think?
Heres the link again in case you dont want to scroll:
http://reigndanceproductions.com/
I believe it, since “Joffrey Ballet West” sounds even further away in prestige from the Joffrey Academy than the Joffrey Ballet School.
@Nolongerbre, if you keep scrolling down there is a specific spot for the Joffrey Ballet School where it says that Chloe and Maddie both won full tuition scholarships to the Mia Michaels Summer Intensive. I guess it’s possible that Abby is lying about Maddie, but right from the beginning the moms were tweeting that both girls had got scholarships. At first people were speculating that Chloe was going to New York and Maddie was going to the Mia Michaels thing, which was not a prestigious thing at all, so it was ok to think that Maddie would still be feeling bad about not having done as well as Chloe. And now it’s put way down on the site that actually both girls are only doing the Mia Michaels thing. I would be less inclined to think that Abby was lying than to think the show was being vague to the point of deceptive about the whole thing. They wanted us to think that Chloe beat Maddie. And obviously the fans still want to think that. So the moms’ tweets are intentionally vague about it, and the show doesn’t even bring up the subject.
It’s things like this that make me think all the moms’ tweets are orchestrated. They look revealing on the surface, but they don’t really tell anyone what’s going on when it comes to factual discrepancies. Like Abby’s famous contract.
Great points Maryedith! I think that a lot of what we see/hear/read from the moms is fake. They are old enough to realize that their actions have a lasting effect because they are memorialized via the web and tv so perhaps they are being a lot more careful about what they do/say. But then again they are still pretty crazy on the show so I guess some of them dont care about how they come across. I guess we just have to wait and see what happens. Hopefully the camera crews are following them around the time of the intensive so we can at least get some perspective on how other professional dance teachers do their thing. It has to be less cray cray than VictAng and Jabby Lee right?
Sadly, as some people were saying higher up the thread, it looks like the girls aren’t going. Because it “conflicts with the filming schedule.” But you’re so right. It would have been really cool to see them in a different setting, wouldn’t it?
Yeah, I don’t know what to believe anymore.. It doesn’t sound like they are going, but who knows? I do think it would have been great for all of them to get out of there if they could- even just for a few weeks. I really don’t get why their moms don’t just take them out of there, especially if they are serious about them becoming real professional dancers when they grow up. If they are just in it for fame, then I guess they have accomplished that, but if they are in it for the true art of dance, then they are on the wrong track- in my opinion.. Makes me kinda sad because I really have come to adore these little girls, and want so much more for them, but obviously I’m not their mom.. It’s frustrating to watch however..
The NY thing Chloe won, I thought the low cutoff age was ten? So, Maddie was too young. Because age for kids matters in ballet… that’d be an issue and Maddie couldn’t have gotten the ballet thing. But, the moms just heard “Joffery” and started ranting about ballet when what they were actually trying to get was the Mia Michaels thing in L.A. but, obviously, the instructors judging could give other things. That is kind of what I put together at the time, but who knows.
Katwoman, I know! It was the cutest thing in the world! I noticed, they avoided letting us let a good look at Mackenzie before she went on stage. Those girls were adorable.
Yeah maybe I am too much of a conspiracy theorist thinking the mom’s twitter feeds were just their way of trying to throw us off their scents. I just thought that since they are in LA right now (and likely being filmed there) the girls would have the chance to do the two week intensive. I figured this season would end in a similar fashion as the first season with the crew following the ALDC around for their faux “Nationals/Biggest Competition in the UNIVERSE”. Remember the first season when they hit up a bunch of contests on the West Coast? According to Christi’s twiiter they are running around LA doing a bunch of Dance Mom’s related promos and junk. Horrible to think that the moms would let their daughters do a bunch of fan based meet and greets (which prolly wont be filmed by Lifetime anyway) but wont let them take a break from their filming to do the intensive while they are in LA.
I just went on the Joffrey ballet school website out of curiousity. They have several different programs, but the one I think Chloe won was the NYC ballet centered 2 week summer intensive (which, by the way, has only 2 more sessions, one starts TODAY 7/9- 7/20 and the next (last) one is from 7/23 to 8/3). Here is a brief description of this program:
NYC Young Dancer Intensive Ages 10 – 15
We are very eager to greet all of you next Monday for the start of our Young Dancer Summer Program! As you are aware, the program runs for two weeks, Monday – Friday, with the final Friday culminating in an in-studio demonstration for your parents of everything you learned during your stay with us.
You will receive your schedules and level placements on Monday morning during orientation. Your classes will run from 9:30am – 4pm each day. You will have Ballet technique class at the start of every day and you are required to wear the Joffrey uniform (black Joffrey leotard and pink tights). If you have not already ordered your Joffrey leotard you may do so online through the store on our website.
Next Monday, June 11th, your orientation will be held at Pearl Studios at 9am. All of your classes will be held at Pearl Studios, which is located at 500 8th Avenue between 35th and 36th Streets. Parents are welcome to attend the orientation, but it is not required.
Dancers, please bring $5 cash with you on your first day to purchase a thera band, which you will need for your Body Conditioning classes, and $25 cash for a pair of castanets which you will need in your Flamenco classes
In addition, please bring the following items with you each day:
■Ballet shoes
■Pointe shoes (only if you are already on Pointe)
■Jazz shoes (if you have them- not required)
■Black character skirt or any skirt
■Water bottle and lunch (you may buy lunch on your break, but most dancers pack their lunch with them)
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BALLET BROCHURE
Download Pg1
Download Pg2
SUMMER AUDITIONS
Online Registration
BEGINNER LEVEL
Registration Form
YOUNG DANCER INTENSIVE (AGES 10 – 15)
Our Young Dancer Intensive in New York City, is taught by our master instructors culminating at the end of each two week sessions,in an in-studio performance, in our expansive Studio 6 . The Young Dancer Intensive focuses on classical ballet technique and pointe, in the morning, with an array of afternoon classes including Horton , Modern and Hip Hop classes, Ballet Character, Body Conditioning and new this summer Improvisation.
AUDITION REQUIREMENT
BEGINNER LEVEL
NOT REQUIRED – Open Registration
INTERMEDIATE & ADVANCED LEVELS
AUDITION REQUIRED
I personally get the impression that Chloe was offered a scholarship for this, which makes sense to me. The Mia Michaels one, I think, is not really very hard to get accepted to, but that one also says minimum age 10, but maybe since Maddie is almost 10 they would allow it? Also, it not being ballet maybe they are more inclined to let it slide. I don’t know. It looks like that one is going on now as well.
This is the time I think they might have auditioned at the Joffrey. I just copied and pasted this from their website:
02/12/12
New York, New York
The Joffrey Ballet School
Registration Time 10:00 am – 11:00 am
Ballet Ages 10 to 12 @ 11:00 am – 12:30 pm
Registration Time 11:45 am – 12:45 pm
Ballet Ages 13 to 16 @ 12:45 pm – 2:15 pm
Registration Time 1:30 pm – 2:30 pm
Ballet Ages 17 to 21 @ 2:30 pm – 4:00 pm
Registration Time 3:15 pm – 4:15 pm
Jazz and Contemporary Ages 10 to 25 @ 4:15 pm – 5:45 pm
This was around the time I think they filmed it, so it would make sense. It looks like they might have had a ballet audition and a jazz audition. Maybe (?) they all auditioned for both, but they just showed on TV the ballet audition and maybe that is the scholarship that Chloe won and maybe Maddie didn’t..? Maybe both Chloe and Maddie won a scholarship for the Jazz intensive…? This would be my guess. I’m also guessing that maybe in their “contract” from lifetime they are not supposed to mention the specifics of this. Who knows..?
One of the things that I still can’t quite wrap my mind around is the fact that the girls do little meet and greets and appearances at malls at things during these competitions. As much as people dis the show on the Dance Moms forums, they all get pretty excited when the show comes to one of their kids’ competitions. They do a great job of keeping all that buzz hidden from the viewers. I tend to forget when I’m watching the show that all the girls must feel pretty famous already. I wonder if it makes the competitions themselves seem more or less important to them than they would otherwise.
@Dani, just saw your posts. That’s really interesting. But there seems to be no evidence that either girl won that NYC scholarship. So what the hell was going on?
I’d take the mom’s Tweets with a grain of salt. Because don’t all reality shows put stuff in the contracts about public statements about the show? So their Tweets could really be from Lifetime. Or have to get approved. Sometimes when they get cast people even delete their regular personal Twitters etc that they had. And then if a new 1 pops up it’s more like an official kind.
Which I guess makes sense from the network’s point of view. Specially since what we see already happened months ago. And news stories will come out anyway.
So they don’t want to add to it by cast members posting spoilers too. Or telling viewers that a story line was fake. Or which scene had to be shot 9 times to get it to look natural. Just like they wouldn’t want them calling up radaronline to tell them that.
@maryedith– I don’t know what the real deal is, but we did hear the Joffrey guy make that phone call to Christi and he did specifically say that they thought she had what it took to make a beautiful ballerina (or something along those lines), and he did say they were offering her the ballet scholarship, or they would love to have her join and she was at the top of their list (something like that..), so I do think she was offered that, but have no evidence to that effect. But just watching her dance, seeing what the judges said, hearing what the Joffrey judge called and said, makes me think that she did win that specific scholarship, but who knows.. I really don’t think the Joffrey would lower themselves to LIE about it though. That’s just my thoughts, what I came up with from what I’ve heard and seen, but I do not know one way or the other, but that would make sense to me, which makes me even more angry at Christi for not getting Chloe to that Joffrey intensive… As her mom and knowing what a good opportunity that would be for her (and it only being a few weeks, so it’s not some long term thing that she’s signing her up for), I think it’s really a shame she didn’t insist she go… Even if Chloe said, “Nah, I think I’d rather hang with my friends at the beach,” as a mom you do what you think is best and 2 weeks of some really good ballet instruction would be good for her– if she chose not to do ballet after that, or whatever, then FINE, but it would only benefit her, not hurt her in anyway. It would help if she wanted to do jazz, being a rockette, or do anything at all- nothing bad could come out of it but not being at the beach with her friends for a few weeks- plus, the added benefit of NOT being around Abby Lee for a few weeks. Just my thoughts though…
Ok — apparently there’s “an interview with Rosie” where Maddie and Chloe say that they both won exactly the same thing. So how can we find this interview? I guess I’ll google and see what happens!
@kthxbai– Yeah, I don’t understand twitter much at all, but that makes sense what you said. I’m thinking that maybe they don’t want any of them to really tell the whole thing about the scholarships with the girls, or that they aren’t going because of filming, which really makes lifetime look bad that they aren’t allowing them to take part in the scholarships they supposedly won, right? I still do think, as I said, that Chloe did in fact win that scholarship in NYC, but I think filming probably took priority, unfortunately, which pisses me off. I think her mom should have demanded they let Chloe go to that.
@Dani, if you’re right about that age cut-off, and if they did win the same thing, then that would mean the NYC intensive was probably never on the table? Or do you just audition for the Joffrey in general and go where they send you? That wouldn’t explain, though, why fans were saying right away that Chloe won a better scholarship than Maddie. It could be that the Joffrey people said lots of negative things to Chloe as well, but they didn’t make the editing cut.
@maryedith– well the age cut off is 10, and Chloe is 10 (now 11). Maddie is 9 (almost 10). So, Chloe would have qualified for the ballet intensive. According to the schedule it said there were auditions for both- the jazz intensive AND the ballet intensive. My thought is that maybe they all (all the girls) auditioned for both the jazz and the ballet scholarships, but maybe only Chloe won the ballet scholarship..? I don’t know of course, just what I think from what I have seen and heard. I just don’t think that the Joffrey would lower themselves to lie about this, so that’s why I do think she did win that. The jazz one is questionable for Maddie simply because that one also states the age as 10, but maybe, as I said before, the jazz one is more flexible when it comes to ages..?
As to the Rosie show… If you DO find something about that, please share. I’d love to see that. I did see in one of the moms tweets or facebook that Chloe and Maddie recently did an MTV interview, which I have not seen and don’t even think it’s come out yet, but would love to see it if it has or anyone has a link to that.. As for the Rosie show (which has been canceled by the way) there was an interview with Abby Lee and Cathy, but this was awhile ago- before the whole joffrey thing and new jersey competition. At the time they seemed like they were getting along fine and even friendly, but I have a feeling that Cathy might have pushed it a little too far and don’t think that Abby is really as friendly to Cathy as she once was.. I did see the Rosie interview with Abby Lee and Cathy. You can probably find that on youtube.
I could not find it. It was a teen talking (I think) so it might not have been Rosie. The kid was excited for both of them, so I don’t think she was making it up, btw. The thing is, every time I go down this Joffrey paper trail it ends in total confusion. On the Dance Moms forum there’s a post that says only one kid from Abby Lee is going to the NYC intensive (I think I saw that on the website too). And then other people say that MADDIE can’t go to Mia Michaels’s one because she’s only ten. And now it turns out that “sadly” neither girl is going to either Intensive anyway? I’m sorry but when so many things don’t add up you have to call bullshit somewhere.
@maryedith– I agree. I do call bullshit somewhere, just not sure where. I just don’t think Joffrey would lie, but maybe I’m too naive.. As I mentioned before, this is really my first reality show, so I’m a newbie with it all and tend to believe it for the most part, but I’m learning.. The last reality show I used to watch was WAY back in the early 90′s and that was “The Real World” and I only watched the first and 2nd season, which was New York and San Francisco (or maybe S.F. was the 3rd…? Well, I watched NY and SF, that’s all I know. LOL). So, I’m sure reality shows have changed since then, but back then they seemed pretty legit.
So, who knows about the intensive, right? I guess it doesn’t really matter since they’re not going, but just upsets me for some reason. The fact of the matter is that BOTH of those girls are extremely talented little dancers and I hope that their moms steer them in the right direction. I do think they are probably caught up in all the fame right now, and that probably does cloud their judgment (both the girls and the moms, and Abby). They are quite famous right now, but as we all know, that won’t last.
As for reigndance.com website… It has changed several times about what it says regarding the Joffrey and the girls, so I don’t trust it at all. Also, I think Melissa had a lot to do with the website, so makes me doubt it even more. Plus, it’s so obvious that Abby favors Maddie to an almost obsessive level that I don’t think she would volunteer anything about Chloe winning some kind of scholarship unless she could put up there that Maddie did as well. Maybe that’s really skeptical of me, but she is really odd when it comes to Maddie.. I think the legit things they post would be about the girls and boys that win in their real company. You see that Payton actually wins quite a bit of things..
I did, however, watch that interview with the moms on The View. The one where Christi talks about Chloe coming into her bedroom “with her hair all tousled” and saying “Mom, I just can’t leave! All my friends are there!” Anyway, I was interested in how Holly responded to her questions because to me it really was as if she was discussing a role she plays. She had a little prepared speech (all the moms’ answered were prepared) about being a working mom and still having a bond with Nia. I got the impression that Holly had made her piece with doing this show because her “role” on it is to fight with Abby about being a working mother and about how an African-American child should be presented onstage. Also little education things like yelling not being the best way to teach a child. I think she’s been almost completely silent this season because she’s not a working mom at the moment, and Abby isn’t dressing Nia up in afro wigs anymore. I think who the moms were supposed to be was probably laid out before filming started.
I loved Brooke’s Garden of Eden dance. I was terrified for Chloe when she was doing that dance blind. I hadn’t seen it before, so I was scared she’d slam into one of the other girls and ruin everything. I love Nia, that Laqueefah routine was hardly a dance. Abby just liked it because she got her way. Nia can do so much more. It was entertaining at least. Her facial expressions are adorable.
@Dani, I’m sorry I didn’t see your last couple of posts before because they came up while I was writing mine and I was kind of in a hurry. It looks like mine are just ignoring yours — sorry! Thanks for saying that about the website changing a lot. I haven’t really looked at it closely before and that’s a good thing to know.
@maryedith I do think that each mom has a role. I remember Kelly tweeting that once. A fan asked her why Paige never does any solos and she said that Paige does but they don’t end up on the show. So the fan asked her why does she complain or something and she said that it was her role on the show. I think each mom and daughter has a story line and they cut and paste the video footage they have in order to keep that story line going.
@maryedith–No problem at all. I think I was doing the same thing. I was just writing and writing, and then something would pop up, so I’m sure I missed some of the things you were saying until later as well.
Tomorrow should be an interesting show. Looks like crazy apples are back, unfortunately. I really can’t stand Cathy, but will need to bear with it tomorrow. There’s also the deal with Kelly going over Abby’s head and changing Paige’s choreography, so we’ll see how that goes.. Just hope she doesn’t punish Paige for it. She’s just a kid following her moms direction, but, we’ll see..
If the girls did win scholarships and aren’t allowed to go b/c of this show then that is just pathetic. The girls are minors and I think there’s a limit to what the show can force them to do. The moms just need to stand firm and say that they are going. I don’t think ANYONE involved with this show has the kids best interests at heart which is very sad.
Didn’t Kelly hire an outside choreographer in Season One?
@maryedith– Yes, she did, and boy did that backfire on her. It also left Paige in hysterics crying in the bathroom. Poor girl was a nervous wreck about it all. Hope that kind of thing doesn’t happen again. It looks like from the preview she doesn’t hire an outside choreographer, but rather changes it up herself- tells Paige to do different moves than Abby I guess. I can see that also traumatizing the poor kid, again, once Abby realizes it and flips out.. We’ll see I guess tonight.
LOL this is getting mysterious now! You guys are doing some awesome research!
Since I’m still stuck in old school thinking, I’d actually started wondering if somebody at Lifetime might be stuck there too. To the point where they might’ve ended up embarrassed when they didn’t want to go.
Because it seems like they’d not only be willing to work around it. But want to brag about it. Specially for just 2 weeks.
And then I thought hmm. What if I’m right about that? What if they wanted to brag about it by sending a crew to shoot some scenes at Joffrey? And Joffrey said hell to the no.
So at that point if their moms or anybody’d been trying to talk them into going they quit doing that.
Here is one solo Paige did recently http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzgpGx-0H_8
I thought she did a great job and I love the costume and music. I actually think Paige is the prettiest of the girls. Not that the others are not pretty because they all are totally gorgeous but Paige looks like a freaking model. She is going to look like a Barbie doll when she grows up. She wants to be Rockette too and she has the legs and body and kicks for it for sure.
I actually like when Cathy is on the show. She adds some funny lines and drama. I also like to laugh at her stupid choreography and the whole here come some little kids running on and off the stage to lower our age category.
Wheels within wheels, kthxby. I like it.
MTV 10 on Top interview with the girls will be on tomorrow morning!
Seeing Cathy’s talking head reminded me who she really is-the Evil Sandy Ducan.