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Why did no one tell me that Gordon suffered from short-term memory loss!!! That poor, poor man!!
Ok, seriously, Robyn has proven that she might, possibly have the skills to cook in a prison setting – well, that might fall under “cruel and unusual punishment”. I have never seen anyone lie to Gordon’s face the way she has AND get away with it. Grrrrrrrr!!!!! I am so sick and tired of her – the lies, the manipulation, the attitude, and the total incompetence! Enough is enough.
And I would like to officially announce my support of “the next person leaving” rule!! Is there a club? Official handshake? Special uniform? I AM IN!!! I bow to you, oh great leader!!
Our uniform can just be the scowl we wear after Gordon sends someone home the way he did Kimmie.
Also, this rule does not only apply to chefs. If Gordon says, “The person leaving Hell’s Kitchen is…” and then he has a heart attack and calls out, “James! Help me!” I’m sorry, James, but you have to leave.
When he was asking each of the blue team why they should stay, I kept yelling to Justin, “Say, ‘Because I can cook!’ No one else has said that! And no one on that team can cook!” But, no, Justin did NOT listen retroactively to my advice and fell back on the old fighting blahblahblah.
After “It tastes like fish,” I knew Brian’s days were up. Plus, he never could handle meat or fish, right? Seems like those would be important.
Never noticed till this episode how much Dana yells. It’s really annoying. I guess Kimmie and Tiffany’s braying overtook my ears.
Loved how Gordon just looked at the massive fireball, made sure Robyn’s face hadn’t melted, and calmly continued his tirade.
Robyn go Home!!
Great recaps, by the way!
Thanks for that photo of Robyn nearly buring her face off, and scaring Ramsay in the process! There’s so much going on….wall of flames….Robyn just standing there….Ramsay ducking for cover. It reminds me of the Pink Floyd album “Wish You were Here”
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51FKs%2BhIylL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
Anyway, Robyn lives to bitch another day….aye. And what’s with the Barbie Hatred? She gets SHIT DONE. At least they gave her props in the kitchen for cooking the wellington’s so well (no pun intended!)
When it’s time for Justin, I’m just hoping he’ll say, “There is no way that I’m the worst of these four.”
I would have absolutely loved that. I can’t believe Robyn is wearing a black jacket–it just blows my mind. I spent a long time thinking she just sucked, but after that incident when she said the entire team told her to put all the garnishes in the oven, I really think she’s crazier than any of us knew. She honestly believed that happened. Pure delusion.
I’ll miss Brian. Maybe he can get a job in a nice vegetarian place.
@NameOfState: I like to think that Gordon was look at Robyn IN HOPES that her face had melted.
@anniedawg25: Awesome comparison! It’s too bad Robyn wasn’t really on fire.
@BlueCanary: Near my hometown, there is a place called “The Tiki Bar.” You get a plate of “RAWR” food (well, not totally raw – it’s “cooked” in citric acid first) and then go over to the grill and cook it yourself. Maybe Brian can work there.
The risotto should have all been cooked in the same pan because all the orders were for the same table. It’s the only sure way to guarantee consistency in appearance and flavor. The other option would have been to combine them before heading to the pass, but that’s not the best way to do it – cooking them together is. Same for cooking the fish together. True, you NEVER want to ‘crowd’ a pan or things won’t cook evenly, but, they have plenty of pans of all sizes so this should have been easy.
And WHY is Robyn still here? Please, tell me she isn’t Gordon’s pick. Please, please, please. She lies, she yells, she can’t cook and she’s just incredibly annoying. Even moreso than Dana and Brian, which I would not have thought possible.
Barbie. What she did with Christina in that episode… I would have HIT her. Several times. With a pan or something. I honestly think that kind of behavior is the reason behind the Barbie hate. Christina was doing good, until Barbie came to harass her. I liked Barbie until the two last episodes, but if she’s pulling that kind of shit on everyone at every service, I really understand why everyone hates her.
I will miss Brian, he was the only one who made me laugh (“fish”!), and I really wish Dana would stop yelling in interviews. I almost cried when Ramsay told robyn to get back in line (twice in a row *sigh* ). Brian was clueless but he was funny and never blamed anyone for his mistakes. Well, it will be like last season with what’s-her-name… Elise? something like that. They always keep a crazy person for the top five.
I don’t understand. I swear I both SAW and HEARD Clemenza tell Robyn to put the garnishes in the ‘holding oven’ and she even confirmed it with him. But no one else seems to have heard it and Robyn just blamed it ‘everyone’ telling her and then just on Justin, who clearly did not. But I swear I saw and heard Clemenza say that to her and she immediately placed the garnishes in that oven while Clemenza watched her do it from the other side of the work station.
Am I hallucinating? Didn’t anyone else see that? And if he did, then why didn’t Robyn blame him instead of Justin? Is it because they have their little alliance going? This is really bugging me.
My favorite part was Gordon’s dead still pause when the flames shot up, no facial reaction at all, then continuing right on with the tirade. That was awesome.
Great recap! I seriously do not like any of contestants, with maybe the exception of Justin.
Seriously, why is Robyn still here? Did her parole hearing get moved up? I cannot stand her face, her stupid comments, and her inability to set herself on fire. Pretty please, Robyn…
Dana and her rabbit face need to get off my TV too. And what is with the yelling from her?
Hey, Andyourlittledogtoo, since I had the thing on DVR and your comment made me curious… I re-watched. Specifically, I looked/listened for Clemenza to say anything to Robyn about those plates of garnish. Sorry, didn’t happen. Justin told her to hold the sauces in the oven – that’s very clear – but Brian was all twitterpaited and Clemenza was head down, mouth shut, sweat dripping. It really didn’t happen the way Robyn said – her reality is somewhat different than what shows on tv. It may have been told to her on another episode or some other time but not in this particular case. Sorry. I checked just in case.
I like to read the recaps,eventhough I haven’t watched a single episode. PopePhilly, your recaps are funny, and I feel like I got to know the”characters” of the show. The cooking part?Seriously, how did those people ended on the cooking show? When you describe the servise, it goes like this: first order:one cod burnt, next order: undercooked, next order : salmon mistaken for cod, next order: the cook has a temper tantrum, so the customer can FO..Ha, ha…It seems that the orders that they got right are just flukes. There is no consistency in their cooking, so why would anybody pay I don’t know: $ 20/30 per plate for such a disaster.
It seems that those people were picked mostly for their entertaing/lack of skills value to the show. Probably they wouldn’t last a first real day of trial at Gordon’s kitchen, if he did a serious recruitment for the position.
That moment when Gordon is about to crew out Justin for the fish and Robyn creates the massive fireball in front of Gordon, him staring at her for a good 5 seconds, then turning and continue his tirade at Justin was easily the funniest thing to ever happen on this show. Ramsey telling the diner he’ll shove a pumpkin up his, the customer’s, ass and if he’d like it whole or diced had a good long run.
@WishICouldDance – Thanks for clearing that up for me. I’d already deleted it and couldn’t go back and rewatch. I feel better now.
@Leto – I have to disagree about Barbie and Christina (at least tonight). The pan closest to Barbie was the one that was burning, and you have to figure that Barbie could at the very least smell or see that. (If you notice, it was on the opposite side of the stove than the two pans Christina was currently stirring.) Barbie might not go about it the right way, but I can’t ever recall her trying to make another chef look bad, she seems to try to make the TEAM look good – even if that is annoying to her fellow chefs. And I was impressed that when she went to the Blue Kitchen, it sounded like Christina and Dana were giving encouraging shouts.
On another note, their hugs after their Black Jackets actually looked semi-legit. Not like they are friends, but if they had to come back at the end and work for one another in the final episode (when the last 2 get to pick their teams) – they would all try hard for one another.
Why is Robyn still on the show? Gordon Ramsey likes for every contest to be tied going into the commercial, beef wellington, scallops, and he loves, LOVES crazy girls. I pretty sure every season of Hell’s Kitchen he’s dragged a lunatic into the top six. She’ll be done in the next couple of eliminations, but Gordo is going to keep that Loony Tunes around as long as he can.
This was a great recap, thanks!
@Mummy Butterfly If I remember correctly, she started harrassing Christina before that risotto burned. Well, “harrassing” is a strong word, I’m sure she didn’t intend to be a major pain in the ass. But Christina was rocking her station, then comes Barbie with (surely) her good intentions, and Christina starts to fuck up. Really I would have hit Barbie, Christina looked like she was on the verge of crying out of frustration with her. I don’t think she does it on purpose, but I could see why people would go crazy over that kind of behavior, if it’s often and with everybody. It’s just my opinion though, maybe they’re just jealous or racist or whatever, but that doesn’t look like Christina to me.
@waffleboy this does have history. I still remember him saving Virginia way too many times in season 2 and she screwed up and lost control far too often that season., She even won immunity into the next round and she was so bad at service he TOOK IT AWAY only to give it back to her when she was put up for elimination. He even got called out on showing her favoritism.
@aliens.rock: One thing I keep reminding myself is that “Hell’s Kitchen” is, first and foremost, a TV show. I kind of take it as the “for entertainment purposes only” disclaimer you see at the ends of commercials for psychic hotlines.
@Leto: I agree that Barbie started bugging Christina before anything went wrong. I’m just wondering if Barbie finally got fed up with being told that she wasn’t a team player and made extra sure to help her team. I do think she started to go a little too far though.
@MummyButterfly: I agree with you about the hugging after the red team received their black jackets. Although they may not all like each other personally, it seems that they can hold together a decent professional relationship.
One thing I forgot to mention in the recap that I wish I had: There was a point when Robyn said something about Brian or Justin and “his buddy Clemenza.” She used air quotes to make this point. However, she only used them when she said “Clemenza.” On top of not being able to cook, or interact with people, Robyn also does not know how air quotes work.
@ PopePhilly……hahaha! “Robyn’s” incorrect use of air quotes
Top Chef does a relay challenge, I think, every season. Those chefs don’t already have what they’re cooking planned out for them. And they don’t get to talk to each other. Yet they still manage to make something edible.
Even amateurs in Masterchef seem to better pull their weight than in HK ^^ And Top Chef is more focused on the food than the drama, even if they like a little drama too.
But come on, I can’t be the only one who watch this show just to see Ramsay yell on a bunch of (for the most part) untalented cooks, if I want to see culinary stuff, I watch Top Chef or even Cupcakes War (speaking of which, I’m so sad there isn’t any recaps of this show, contestant are full of themselves enough for it to be pretty funny).
Forget EVERYTHING else about this show… I cannot believe that no one called Clemenza out on:
1. THROWING HIS APRON ON THE FLOOR
2. WALKING ON IT
3. Tying it and tugging the nasty part that had been on the floor to the FRONT!
GACK!
OMGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!! Shoot me now! Did anyone else notice this? Anybody? ANYBODY?????
That man is gross. But, the fact that Ramsey let him cook in that apron after seeing that? And no one, NO ONE said a word except he was SLOW??
Well. I’ll be hornswaggled!
I loved Robyn’s air quotes around “Clemenza”–like that might be his name, but she doesn’t quite buy it. It was almost worth her sticking around this long just to laugh as hard as I did at that.
I still maintain, though, that she should’ve been sent home instead of Patrick. That she’s still around after the RAWR chicken incident, when he got sent home for improperly cooking steak, doesn’t make much sense. I agree, we have to keep in mind this is a show, and she does provide insane amounts of good television.
Dana looks like a chimp. That is all.
@leto i have seen your barbie hatered in teh other recap aswell
shut teh fuck up will you
and do me a favor and fuck off now willyer?
if dana was teh one to tell christina teh pan was burning christina would act so thankfull
but becasue it is the the black girl they out number two to one
she thinks she can treat her liek a piece of crap
abnd you leto are blaming barbie for christinas bullshit
christina wasnt doing well
barbie didnt harrass her
barbie is the one harrassed constantly
and the way they treat barbie
is a disgrace for any civilized people
if i was barbie i would have beaten all the redteam with a pillowcase with soapbars at night
fucking racist scum
mods its hard to not speak in curses if you are faced with such blatant whitewashing of teh vile racism of dana christina and teh rest of those white broads
and it is funny how white people can’t seem to see the racism
and teh double standard
the unfairness
the way everyone gets treated better than barbie
the way it is always pinned on barbie when everoyne else messes up
i am SO HAPPY GORDON RAMSAY ISNT RACIST
thats the only reason barbie is stillt here
shame on everyone who was hating on barbie from season one
i know most of you white viewers hated barbie rigth away
well goes teh other way arround i hated tiffany and teh rest of these raicst right away aswell too
when i saw them behaving unfairly towards a teammember onlöy becasue of skincolor
they socially died to me
so did yall
i know there is some who see it as it is
and i fro myself i admire barbie for standing up to the pack of wolfs
even though she was outnumbered
her cooking is teh best on this show right now
she is the only one producing good consistent results
yet she is teh one who never had a day without BEING HARASSED
intimidated and threatedned by fucking slavemaster white bitches
who ar too used to opress minoritys to stop even on national tv
leto go home
you are just another tiffany
Oh Sharon!!! How did I miss this?!?!? NASTY!!!! Ewwww!!
You know what I think is awesome and quite telling? Everyone who has commented is united in their desire to see Robyn get the boot – preferably firmly applied to her ass!! Not one person has offered even a token protest in her defense! You guys are all so much fun!! And, PopePhilly, you do such a great job leading our little village – pitch forks, torches and all!!!
@sharon:
Forget EVERYTHING else about this show… I cannot believe that no one called Clemenza out on:
1. THROWING HIS APRON ON THE FLOOR
2. WALKING ON IT
3. Tying it and tugging the nasty part that had been on the floor to the FRONT!
when i saw this, i just assumed that clemenza can’t reach around and tie his apron in the back because his belly is too big. so he has to get it behind him so he can tie it in front and then turn it around. it was really gross, and i can’t believe that he didn’t get called for dragging it on
the floor like that.
@pawesl
Dana looks like a chimp. That is all.
i do not know what this means, but it made me laugh.
@Sharon – I saw him throw it on the floor and walk on it but I thought he had another one he put on. I don’t remember him picking that one up and putting it back on. But I believe you if that’s what you saw. It also may be a different scene I am remembering as well. There was a scene when he was leaving the kitchen and he took off his apron and just threw it on the ground and stalked off. I remember thinking that he left his apron on the floor for the others to step on and trip over and thought it was thoughtless and strange. Who does that? But if he did it another time when actually preparing to put it on I don’t think I saw that.
He is pretty gross though.
I think Dana is attractive but I could also totally see her in the monkey cage. Yeah.
@zorro there is no need to insult me or being rude. I couldn’t care less about anyone’s skin color, I just don’t like her CHARACTER and her BEHAVIOR. You don’t know me, so do not insult me.
I’m very tired of that kind of shit. Stupidity, bitchiness, mean behaviors are NOT the priviledge of the white people, saying about a black, or yellow, or whatever person that she’s a bitch is NOT racism. There are fucks and bitches and douches in all civilizations, and I think denying it is the essence of racism. So leave me alone, thanks
Wow, zorro, lay off the caffeine.
By caffeine, you mean crack?
To be 100% honest, I don’t see any kind of racism from Christina and Dana. I kind of just think the two of them are a little clique and they don’t want anyone else there. The only other person on their team is Barbie.
I saw it a little bit from Tiffany and Kimmie, but that very well could have been me subconsciously seeing them as the “racist southerner” stereotype.
I think a lot of the Barbie issue was that she didn’t join any of the little groups that formed. She wasn’t part of the Tiffany/Kimmie/Robyn clique and she wasn’t a part of the Dana/Christina clique. She just did her own thing and, as a result, didn’t have any allies.
@Leto: I don’t think you’re racist. I don’t think anyone else here does either. Feel free to dislike Barbie all you want. I think the best part of these shows is that the contestants all have people who love them and people who hate them.
Except for Robyn. Pretty much everyone hates her.
Thanks PopePhilly, You’re sweet
.
The thing is, I don’t even dislike Barbie. But with the hint we’ve had of her behavior, I can’t say I wouldn’t hate her if I had to work with her.
To be honest, not being from the US, I don’t fully understand the depth and history of racism there. I mean I know the history, but it’s all very abstract to me. There are a lot of ethnies in France, but it’s a result of recent immigration and there never was slavery. So there IS racism, but it is more of a cultural problem than plain black/brown/yellow skin. I’m not used of being called a racist (and insulted) just because I don’t see racism outright… That said, moving on
Yes Robyn is the crazy bitch binding everyone together with her bullshit, hurray for her
You have to just wonder at the crazy that is Robyn. She makes me want to go to Hell’s Kitchen as a patron and just watch the insanity boil over!
I’m not sure how much of the show is planned ahead, and I am sure what we see has been edited to make the most of what is going on. But, can you imagine going to sleep in that dormatory with Robyn there?????????? I would be sleeping with a hammer in my hand.
I love that they get people like her for this show! It would be boring as can be if everyone could do a calmly just good job and cook.
Also, Tiffany???????? Was she high or was she drunk? Anybody???
@Leto: I wouldn’t worry too much about Zorro calling you racist and insulting you. Lord knows I’ve been called racist because I happened to not particularly like someone who happened to be (insert race or ethnicity different from my own). I remember at one point just saying, “I don’t hate you because you’re (whatever). I hate you because you’re an ass hole!”
@Sharon: I’d be terrified to sleep. I imagine the other contestants have a kitchen knife under their pillows.
well call me what you want
and you can twist my words arround to make them easier to discredit
but i stand by my word
also i am happy ramsey isn’t racist but a very fair host
he treats everyone the same
the ones who do the best job in the kitchen get the credit
that’s the only reason why barbie is still there
in real life your boss might not be as fair as ramsey is!
“you can twist my words arround to make them easier to discredit”
Who twisted your words around? It’s fairly easy to discredit someone who throws charges of racism around so freely.
@zorro, it’s funny that you keep repeating “it’s a good thing Ramsey is not racist” because guess who just got accused of being a racist? And guess who accused him, Top Chef winner Marcus Samuelson. He said Ramsey called him a ‘Black bastard’ for not naming his as one of his inspirations. Not really racist if calling him Black was purely observational like “you’re a tall woman!” But it is a little suspect if he was using this observation as a put down, like “you FAT bitch!” (yes, the person may actually be fat, but calling them fat is never purely observational, it’s always meant as an insult.)
So, either way, you can interpret it how you like. But I just wonder if that skews your perspective a little bit. I guess we’ll see…
I think I’m the one who is supposed to have twisted his words. I haven’t twisted anything, Zorro, YOU have. YOU called ME a “fucking racist scum” and you dare say that *I* called you names? Shame on you. You don’t need anybody to discredit yourself.
“Hell’s Kitchen 2012 – Someone explain?
So I just caught up on the first two episodes of Hell’s Kitchen this year, and I am hella confused.
Why does everyone on the Red Team hate Barbie?
I mean… at WORST, she fucked up a few fish dishes (as did Roshni in episode one), though everyone seems to love her). And I guess there was that two second clip of her standing in the background while people dug around for scallops in the ice pile, after someone accused her of not helping enough. But it’s not like she stood around and barked orders at people. If there was real footage of her slacking off, they would have shown it to us, you can guarantee it.
And then Barbie cooked 3 of the 6 scallop dishes that won them the challenge round.
How is she not a team player? She hasn’t gone off on a cussing tangent at anyone. She hasn’t barked orders at people while being useless herself. She’s helped the team. She put herself up for elimination, owning the mistakes she made, while all the women around her proceeded to continue saying horrid shit to her face, screaming curses at her. Kimmie, Tiffany, AND Robyn now have actually physically threatened her with violence while calling her disgusting things.
But WHY?
Hell’s Kitchen is PRO at editing together damning clips of people, with or without context. If they can’t find 5 seconds of Barbie acting like a bitch to show me, I have to conclude that it means there’s not a lot there to mine. So why is she suddenly persona non grata?
It seems to me that Robyn just decided to make her a target, and the rest of the team ate it up. She was accused of being arrogant and bitchy, though everyone on that team is prissy. And that’s when it hit me – she’s the only Black woman on that team. Everyone can be prissy except for the Black woman, and then suddenly she’s “The Devil” (Robyn actually called her that). Everyone can tout how they’re there to win the whole thing, but if a Black woman stands up for herself IN A COMPETITION, she’s “not a team player.”
It’s bad enough that half of the contestants every year are raging misogynists (“Men just are better at cooking than females.”), but COME ON. It’s been TWO EPISODES. There is NO reasonable explanation for all of the white-ass women on Red Team to hate Barbie as much as they do. It’s rumormongering, and I’m pretty much forced to conclude that the reason it worked so well is that she was easy to isolate.
Fucking disgusting. ”
quoted from sonic-hip-attack (y0u can find her on tumblr)
And? That gives you the right to insult people how, exactly?
“Except for Robyn. Pretty much everyone hates her.”
Hey, Pope, that’s racist against “Crazy-Ass-Bitch-Americans!” Stop being so xenophobic! You don’t know how it is to be a crazy-ass-bitch, because you weren’t born one!!! So stop making judgments because of it!
I love this show — it brings out the crazy. And I’m not talking about the contestants or Ramsay. I’m talking about the trolls who won’t let people have their own opinions without playing the race card.
Do I have any idea why the red team doesn’t like Barbie? Nope, but I’m guessing it’s more of a “mean girls” thing than a “she’s black” thing. She doesn’t belong to a clique, maybe she’s anti-social, there for the competition rather than to “make friends”. Who knows?
But, zorro, you’re basically stating that there’s no other reason for them to dislike her except for the fact that she’s black (which kind of makes you the racist). As opposed to them all just being assholes, or her being a pain in the ass or something. You’re assuming that it HAS to be that she’s black, because they’ve given no other reason why they don’t like her (of course, they’ve never given the fact that she’s black as the reason, either, but that would prove your argument moot, and you can’t have that with your attempts at hate-mongering)
Let’s assume for a moment that there are one or two racist assholes in the red team this season (I don’t buy it, but I’ll grant the premise). Do you REALLY think that ALL of them are? Do you really think that, say, the gay woman would take people attacking the black woman because she’s different?
Trust me, wouldn’t happen. If it were a race thing, the the team lines would be FAR different than they are, and Barbie sure as hell wouldn’t be alone.
It’s funny. On Top Chef this season, they had a girl that every other girl treated like crap. We were all trying to figure out why. The fact that she was Asian never came up in the arguments. I guess that speaks loads to the fans of that show.
@Jimbob Jones: Well color me ignorant! I never realized that crazy bitches were actually a race of people. I guess I should be nicer to Robyn because she didn’t choose to be a crazy ass bitch.
I think the only person I could have imagined being racist was Tiffany. I think that’s only a slight possibility. Tiffany was probably just a bitch – she hated Dana just as much as she hated Barbie.
I think Kimmie was just a follower and hated Barbie because Robyn did. Dana and Christina just don’t like her because the two of them are their own little clique and Barbie is the odd one out. They’re at least still civil to her (and even complimentary!) in the kitchen.
@Jimbob : Beverly!! I liked Beverly, and she was a little like Barbie in the way she never let the crap destabilize her. But some people took Beverly’s side. Well, not a lot. Grayson and Paul were nice to her? x) poor beverly.
I wouldn’t be surprised if tiffany and robyn were “racist assholes”. Before the Gospel episode, I would have think Kimmie too, but she enjoyed that choir way too much to be disgusted by black skin.
@Leto: I think Robyn is just insane. I’m pretty sure she doesn’t discriminate when it comes to hating people.
I’m pretty sure I put forth the theory in one of my past recaps, or the comments maybe, I can’t remember, that the girls don’t like Barbie because she doesn’t even give the illusion of being there for any reason other than to win. She never tried to play their clique games, she never tried to fit in, and she clearly, CLEARLY doesn’t give a rat’s ass about making anyone happy. That grates on people’s nerves, mostly because everyone likes to think everyone else is a socially needy as they are. Barbie just isn’t.
I liked Beverly, too! She was sensitive, but made great food.
I wonder if the “race” thing didn’t come up, because Paul was also Asian? Interesting questions that shall never be answered.
I would just like to point out that Tiffany’s from Vermont, so while that’s southern to a Canadian, she and Kimmie were just nasty pieces of work irrespective of where they’re from.
I think they hate on Barbie because she can cook better then most of them, you never hear Ramsey scream at her and they can’t get under her skin. Now if I was working in the kitchen next to her – she’d piss me off too with her passive aggressiveness. Christina does not except help from anyone when she’s working, I remember Robyn getting all poesy cause Christina wanted to do everything herself.
Pissy – not poesy.
i love how calling someone out on racism is now somehow seen as offensive or insulting lol
i tell it how i see it
if you feel so offended then there must be some truth to it
else you wouldn’t get so damn deffensive
funny how i am the only one who is willing to admit that barbie is being the victim of racist abuse for the entire season
it was teh exact same with autumn lewis
and by the way calling somoene racist isn’t an insult it is an observation
and these red team people where all racists that’s why they were getting so angry if barbie even did the slightest of transgressions WHILE THEY were messing up big time
again call me what you whant
but somehow if a black person doesn’t play the doormaat for everything else and stands up for themselves they become a target to you racists
barbie never did anything
if she did what teh redteam did to her back to them
someoen would have ended in jail lol
and anyways yall can gang up on me
you still cant make this go away
ganging up on me doesn’t make you right
it takes away your credibility
AND SOME OF TEH COMMENTORS HAVE GOT TO BE RACISTS THEMSELVES
BECAUSE THEY ALWAYS SAY ‘BARBIE MUST HAVE DOEN SOMETHING TO WARRANT THIS’
and they look for any reason to find excuses for the racist abuse
every excuse but racism
why does it threaten you so much to acknoledge someone was the victim of racist abuse?
why cant you admit to your own bias?
if you dont admit it leto you cant better yourself
i know one day my words will get through to you (lol actually i don’t know xD )
but it was nice to have everyone gang up on me for saying the truth and nothing but the truth
YOU called me a “fucking racist scum” just because I don’t like Barbie’s behavior sometimes, and you try to pass for the victim here? You really can’t see why I am offended? “fucking scum” isn’t an insult to you? You’re almost as delusional as Robyn, that’s just scary. Now go back to your world where all black people are nice little ponies and all white people are racist and mean, and leave me alone.
@zorro (my autocorrect says sorrow), some people do have different perceptions on what is racist and what isn’t and some people do become uncomfortable at the notion of someone being called racist. However, I’m not sure the contestants being racist toward Barbie is the case, but I’m dunno, I came to talk grits and bagels…I just think you ruin your credibility by ranting inarticulately. If you have a legitimate argument, make it. But slinging mud doesn’t always stick, nor should it.
Wow. Speaking of ‘inarticulately’, check out my last post! lol
I wonder if zorro thinks I’m a racist in regards to Barbie.
@Zorro: I’m pretty sure none of us said, “Barbie must have done something…” A lot of us have been saying, “What the hell did Barbie do?” Perhaps she didn’t do anything and just rubbed some people the wrong way. There are plenty of people I’ve come into contact with that didn’t exactly do something to me, they just rub me the wrong way and we don’t get along. Also, this is a competition setting. People will say things like “She can’t cook!” or “He sucks!” as just general trash talk. I do have to agree with Leto. You can’t just call someone “scum” and then expect them not to react. If you start hurling the insults, you don’t get to be the victim as well.
@Sarcasatire: It still made more sense than anything Zorro posted.
@Moli: Well, duh! I mean, I’m sure that’s what everyone is thinking.
@zorro, I can’t speak for all the other racists here, but for me, I don’t like to see our loony trolls break up their rants with so much white (forgive me, but I didn’t know what else to call it) space. I have taken the liberty of copying a portion of your last post and fixing it for you as an example for next time:
“i love how calling someone out on racism is now somehow seen as offensive or insulting lol i tell it how i see it if you feel so offended then there must be some truth to it else you wouldn’t get so damn deffensive funny how i am the only one who is willing to admit that barbie is being the victim of racist abuse for the entire season it was teh exact same with autumn lewis and by the way calling somoene racist isn’t an insult it is an observation and these red team people where all racists that’s why they were getting so angry if barbie even did the slightest of transgressions WHILE THEY were messing up big time again call me what you whant but somehow if a black person doesn’t play the doormaat for everything else and stands up for themselves they become a target to you racists barbie never did anything . . .”
@Zorro Racist is an insult if the person you’re calling racist hasn’t said or done anything racist.
Wow, zorro’s a “CrazyAssBitchvania”, too. Did you know Robyn before you came to America?
I know I haven’t been here but just a few days… BUT…
GOOD GAWD A-MIGHTY! They is a whole lots of drama in this here house!
WOAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think it is really insane to call someone on an INTERNET THREAD a racist over a comment about a FREAKIN’ REALITY TV SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I doubt very seriously if Barbie herself would get as upset over this as Zorro has!!
And, yes, calling someone a racist when they have only offered an opinion about someone’s COOKING is a nasty insult. It is a spit in the face of everyone who has suffered from real racism. Get over yourself, Zorro.
I kinda like Barbie, but not everyone shares the same opinion as me.
Good grief. And, may I add… PHOOEY!
I meant that zorro’s FROM Crazyassbitchvania — the other way is just stupid.
@Sharon — we’re all just stupidly feeding the troll.
It’s fun as long as you don’t let it bite your fingers. Or get its stink on you.
@sagittariuskim — Using zorro’s logic, I’m going to start calling him/her “taintsweat” — you know, because if he/she gets insulted, it actually means he IS taintsweat.
I love that logic.
@PopeP, I thought I hid it well enough. I have to somehow and someway use ‘taintsweat’ on the internet(no way i could use that word IRL).
“I don’t like to see our loony trolls break up their rants with so much white”
i’m pretty sure that’s racist.
@Jimbob: “Taint sweat” is my new favorite phrase. Perhaps we could also call him a “twat waffle” (my other favorite phrase).
@Sharon: I think if there was any actual racism going on, the producers would have made it a huge deal. That kind of drama is ratings gold.
Just think of the valuable lesson we all learned here today, guys.
The only reason that a white person could dislike a black person is because of the color of their skin.
That certainly makes things easier. Here I was wasting my time treating people like people, when instead I should simply be categorizing them and save myself a bunch of cycles which I could use to continue my irrational and intense dislike of Zooey Deschanel (who I now know I only dislike because she’s a woman, and not because her zombie eyes give me the creeps)
Man, this will certainly change things between me and my Indian wife. And how on Earth am I going to explain to my kids that I only love part of each of them?
Phew! Thanks, zorro, for saving me from HOURS of getting to know people.
@crankyguy, so is what you’re saying is that you prefer to see all that white space dominated by black words?
How could you be racist then?
What enrage me the most is that Zorro doesn’t know who is white here and who isn’t. He just assumed that anyone not saying Barbie is a victim of the nazi sisters is white.
What doesn’t seam to sink in his little head is that he is the only one here giving a shit about her skin’s color. We see people. He sees black and white. In my country, THAT is considered racism.
Please, I really want to ignore him from now on, if I reply to him again, will someone be kind and hit me? please?
@sarcasatire, I see your point, but it’s still racist because I am encouraging Zorro to strive for the same level of excellence in trolling set by redneck WHITE women over on the T&T threads. My complaint about spacing may seem petty, but at this level where Zorro’s posts are inevitably going to be directly compared to those of pageant moms, every slip in attention to detail detracts from the final work. Zorro really needs to bring his/her A-game.
Yes! You hear that Zorro? More black words, less white spaces! More black words, less white spaces!
Heavens to Betsy, what has gotten into the TVGasm water over the past few weeks? It’s a straight-up troll-a-thon ’round these parts lately!
I LOOOOVE the snark factor of this place! I am laughing my arse off. (And, believe me as large as my arse is… that is a WHOLE lotta laughin’.)
@Sharon: I now know how DearCrabby must feel when a delusional pageant mom reads the “Toddlers & Tiaras” recaps!
@SuburBint: When Zorro showed up, I commented to a friend, “I got my first troll today! I think that officially makes me internet famous!”
Everyone hates Barbie because of those weird smug and strange looks she gives people, she did it in the living room to christina this episode I think. It reminds me of being a kid and yelling at my mother to make my brother “stop looking at me like that”!! The way she won’t engage in verbal arguments either, which is so frustrating to people who want to rant at you (Robin) when you won’t answer!!! But she is great in the kitchen and that is all that matters. I would definitly appreciate any help she had time to give me.
“It reminds me of being a kid and yelling at my mother to make my brother “stop looking at me like that”!!” – Haha, kloewent, we have both the same brother and the same temperment! Anytime I got chastised by my parents my brother would be right there, cupping one hand over his eye like a mock video camera and using the other as a microphone and say, “How did it feel to get in trouble? No TV, huh? Punishment, too? Heard you can’t go outside. How does it feeeeeeeeeeel?” I would scream bloody murder! My mom would just shake her head and say, “Sarcas, you’re too easy.”
after being insulted after speaking up against racism, ganged up on by racist mobs, after being cursed out over nothing but standing up for what’s right, all i have to say is:
=:3
bunnyface
Wow, so many of us Brown people are racist against another Brown person. Learn something new everyday…and there’s even with a pic of pretty Brown baby as an avatar(PBB for short).
@zorro, if you think this site is overrun by hateful racists, then I wonder how many racists you run into in your everyday life. I’ll bet it’s a LOT. Who on here cursed you out? I missed that, although I did see YOU cursing out some of the Gasmii.
is bunny face the new thing the kids are saying these days? Does it mean something bad? How do you use it in a sentence?
Ok, it’s hot and crazytown just ejected it’s first resident…
I think Kimmie and Tiffany hated Barbie not because she is black but because she cleans up decently.
You put a little makeup on and a dress and ta-dah, it’s a girl. Those two and Robyn, it is like extras in a John Waters film.
Zorro has Robyn levels of delusion.
Those two and Robyn, it is like extras in a John Waters film.
Harsh, but not untrue. Too bad Edith “the Egg Lady” Massey is dead; she could have been cast on Hell’s Kitchen and wowed Gordo with some great egg dishes.
Cranky – LOL!! Wowed or scared?
Haha..@LAC, you are divine! (See what I did there?)
@Leto, I have to completely disagree on that bit about Barbie and Christina with the risotto in the kitchen. Barbie was just trying to help out. She was not doing anything at the moment, and she’s shown that she only cares about making sure the dinner service moves along well, so she just wanted to speed things up. Christina has every right to not accept the help, of course, but she was not exactly rocking it, considering she almost made one mistake by putting in cooked risotto with risotto that was already cooking, and then one of her rissottos started to burn. She still refused to accept Barbie’s help and look what happened, the risotto got burnt. I understand having pride and all, but if someone can help, then just let them. If they fuck up, they’re the ones looking bad.
I did enjoy how Barbie was pretty much the MVP this time. Not only did she commit zero mistakes, but she singlehandedly saved the blue kitchen. Now, I can understand why Ramsay kicked out Brian over Robyn. Barbie’s showing us well tthat she doesn’t give a rat’s as about any of these people, and I understand, I wouldn’t want to even hang out with any of them, except for Barbie herself and the already eliminated Roshni. But she’s there to cook and do her job in the kitchen, nothing more and nothing less. When you apply for a job and get hired, you don’t choose who you work with, and you may end up disliking one or more of them, but you still have to get the job done. I feel Barbie’s the only one with that attitude.
Now, notice that the blue team was being a complete disaster (I think Justin deserved to go up for elimination more than Robyn) , but the very second Ramsay puts switches Brian for Barbie, everything just starts flowing smoothly. That Justin, Robyn and Clemenza could work well with Barbie there and not with Brian justifies Brian’s elimination. Again, goes with the “you don’t choose your fellow employees, just get the damn job done”.
Well, if there is one person who doesn’t apply for that theory, it would be last season’s Elise. Put Elise and Robyn next to each other, and who do you want to slug the most? That would be Elise for me. Robyn’s a complete dumbass who doesn’t even know what she’s doing and doesn’t realize how off-putting she is, but she’s shown that in rare circumstances, she can get the job done without huge drama (like her first dinner service with the blue team). Elise, however, knew perfectly well what she was doing, she thrived and got off on creating drama and making everybody miserable and angry. That’s the type of person one just can’t work with, no exceptions.
@Chris Velazquez : I don’t think Barbie sucks in the kitchen, quite the contrary, I even think she deserves to win. BUT I have to disagree about her behavior sometimes, I would hate working with her (spending 2 and a half hour cleaning stupid mussels, when the rest of the team prepared the all service, I coulnd’t put up with that kind of shit).
But she makes funny faces, couldn’t care less about the drama and the abuse, and she rocks in the kitchen, so I don’t have any problem with her still being here. I just think I understand why her teammates dislike her.
That said. I couldn’t agree more about Elise, even Robyn can’t take her on bitchiness.
Sarcas!! I love coming to a place where a John Waters reference is received and understood!
@leto
but how can you even talk about barbies behaviors next to the red teams dysfunctionality
barbie is the only one in the red team i would work with
i used to like christina
but then she started to join the hate barbie club
and right then and there i stopped giving a rats behind
look guys
it is what it is
i know racism when i see it
and i already know that people will deny teh existence of racism while beeing racist
so you guys telling me racism doesn’t exist is a not too convincing argument to be made
leto you have been angered by barbies outragous behavior
i wonder what sort of behavior would justify the whole red team ganging up on barbie
while for everything they acuse her of, there is 3/4th of the redteam having the same problems but worse
how come if dana screws up it is “not a big deal”
but if barbie looks at someone in a way blacks are not allowed to look she is the “devil”
why leto, is it, that you take more offense to barbie giving looks
than to tiffany and kimmie and other threatening barbie with all-out-violence
don’t answer i know :
blacks are supposed to be slaves and say thanks after being whipped!
whites being violent towards blacks is just how it is supposed to be afterall they had it coming, had they not?
leto
you know you dont like barbie because she is black
if you admit this to yourself though your self-image would crumble
so you and others figth nail and tooth not against what i said but against the cracks in your self-image
and again let me finish my monolog with a comforting and all too popular bunnyface
=:3
Well, I suspect the Barbie hate started simply because, sadly, selecting a ‘goat’ is a way of bringing people together. I have seen it on many, many competition/reality shows. You get a group of strangers together and as a vehicle for creating cohesiveness and a team mondset, they select a target for all to dislike and it creates a common bond.
And Barbie got the target on her back because she wouldn’t play this game (there’s invariably one and that’s who gest all the hate). Barbie is there to cook; not make friends or bond over an issue of Tiger Beat while braiding one anothers hair. Fear causes groups of strangers in situations like this to look for a leader and a reason to bond together. Sadly, the easiest reason is generally to select one person to be ‘out’. This is why she kept getting nominated for no reason at all.
Barbie has no fear thus is a threat to the other team members.
Now, they SHOULD have bonded together over some male chef hate – THAT would have made sense. But no, they didn’t so they selected the one who wouldn’t play. And she happened to be black. I don’t think it mattered one whit what color her skin was – it was all about who wouldn’t go along with their reasoning.
Who said racism doesn’t exist?
Of course it does, just as sexism, ageism and all the other nasty ‘isms’ exist. But the Barbie hate isn’t, in my opinion, born of racism. She was just selected as the glue to hold the team together. The fact that she won’t rise to their bait just makes her target bigger. And if any of the gasmi here were racist, believe me, it would show and they’d get snarked off the site.
@Zorro – so if you decide someone is a racist, then they must be a racist. Because if they deny they are a racist (even when offering a well-worded, properly spelled response), then in denying they must be confirming they are lying. So they need to admit they are a racist, which makes them a racist.
So, either way, you win. This sounds like the same type of logic my children try to use. Ridiculous.
@timgunnssister: First, I don’t know if I’ve ever told you how much I love your username! Second, you took the words right out of my mouth. Racism exists. It’s just not what’s fueling the Barbie hate from her team.
Also, I think we need to address a bigger problem in this thread: abuse of paragraphs. I believe that Crankyguy touched on this already. I think if someone can’t bother to use paragraphs correctly, his or her paragraph privileges should be revoked. They will be returned when the offender is responsible enough to handle them.
Ok. I know I said I wouldn’t. BUT, Zorro :
There never was slavery in France, you stupid moron. Try to learn a little about MY culture before trashing me.
Crétin de paranoïaque à la con. Incapable de voir plus loin que le bout de ton nez, heureux dans ton petit rôle d’éternelle victime. FOUS MOI LA PAIX. Là.
Go and translate that, you will spend your time usefully.
@Leto – is this the part where you want someone to hit you, because you responded again? If so – here’s a little *thwack* from me.
Where in France do you live? I spent a few years in Germany, less than 40 km from the border.
@Leto: I trasnlated it. You are wonderful! There is nothing better than the feeling one gets from insulting someone in another language. When I get really pissed off, I’ll bust out the German. It doesn’t sound nearly as pretty as French, but it’s still satisfying.
@MummyButterfly: Where in Germany were you? I spent a little time studying there when I was in high school.
@leto
“1794: France abolishes slavery in all its possessions; slavery is restored by Napoleon in 1802″
how can they abolish something that suposedly never existed?
@Zorro – do you understand what a possession is? Apparently not.
@Leto and PopePhilly: Richenbach-Steegan, about an hour from Frankfurt. We were assigned to Ramstein Air Base, I even had one of my kiddos over there – we like to joke about how European he is (and he REALLY is!)
I can’t speak German, but I can read it pretty well (or could then). I have a ton of allergies, so had to be VERY careful when I shopped that I knew what I was buying food-wise. And I much preferred shopping at the local markets than on-base.
Think about the phrase “in all its possessions.” That should give you your answer.
I’ve been watching this thread for a couple of days now and decided to take the high road and not comment. Well, that road done washed out and here I am. (and just by the by, I’m trying to read each sentence carefully to make sure no one, ahem Zorro, can take it wrong). It’s obvious Barbie is Zorro’s favorite of the women. Surprise, surprise, she’s my favorite also. And she’s my favorite because I think she’s the best cook and the only woman capable of running Gordon’s restaurant. It has nothing to do with the color of her skin and for Zorro to be so obsessed by her skin color I think it’s pretty evident that Zorro is a racist.
Zorro, do you watch the Ramsey show right after Hell’s Kitchen. This is the one where a bunch of “home” cooks are vying for the title of Master Chef. I don’t watch faithfully, but last time I saw it, there was a Hispanic, Black, Asian, I believe Puerto Rican and even a blind woman as contestants. Plenty to hate for white racist pigs on the show. However, the one everyone wants gone is one of the few white women on the show. Can you explain that? However much you want to blame life’s shortcomings on skin color, other factors come into play also.
@MummyButterfly: I didn’t get to spend much time in Frankfurt. I was in Landau for most of the time I was there. I’ve maintained a decent amount of the language and know enough to get around Germany fairly easily. Reading is DEFINITELY easier for me too.
@Mimo: Thanks for joining us with your well written comment. You may keep your paragraph privileges.
Also @Mimo: I agree with you about Barbie being the best cook. I’m kind of neutral on her. I’m rooting for Christina mainly because she’s from West Chester, PA (where I went to school). Barbie is probably a close second for me because she’s from Philly. I tend to root for any contestants from my hometown and surrounding areas.
However, I think I’ll be pretty happy if Justin, Barbie, or Christina wins it all. I honestly keep the three of them about even when it comes to cooking skills.
Aw shucks, Pope, you made me get all red and fidgety. Want me to braid your hair?
strawman
strawman
strawman
ad hominem
look people: the reason everyone hated on barbie from day one, the reason they held her to a different much harsher standard than the rest of their team(red) is racsim
if you can’t see that you must be either blind or not looking
attacking me by twisting my point doesn’t take away its factuality!
discrediting me as a person doesn’t make what is say false!
because an idiot said 2+2=4 doesn’t make it untrue; so keep on inulting!
becasue not EVERYONE who is white is also a racist, doesn’t mean that the red team isn’t racist
but of course it is easier to disprove the first claim than the later (quick bunnyface =:3) even though i never claimed everyone on this world was racist
and i didnt claim everyone is racist
but some people are and i am going to call them out
and leto just because you are french doesn’t mean you are btter than anyone!
leto there are a lot of racist french people or is Jean-Marie Le Pen american too?
anyways i stand by my point the redteam is a disaster and dysfunctional
they are racist to the bone that’s why they hate barbie from day 1
but that doesn’t mean everyone is racist
and it doesn’t mean i am better than the rest of mankind!
but the peopel on here who say barbie is teh cause fro the hate are racist in my opinion
and those same people are getting extremely defensive
that defensiveness alone should ring the alarmbells
i have been called a racist before but since i am not discriminating based on skincolor or creed i just let it fly
never have i been upset as you
maybe you shoudl take a long look at what you see in the mirror!
ok enough now
this discussion is over
i wanted to make a point (that barbie has been bulied because of racism)
and i am done being ganged up upon
i posted becasue i love the recaps
and it is the first thing i read after watching HK
and i felt like this point of view was missing
so have it your way
BurgerKing
@Leto – I don’t think you’re better than everyone because you’re French. I think you’re better than everyone because you have a cool avatar.
@TimGunnsSister: We could totally have a slumber party!
I’ll bring the Tiger Beat and the ice cream! We can eat it all then throw up later!
I’m sure I’ve got some nail polish and a VHS of “Dirty Dancing” somewhere!
@zorro, if I think that you are a troll, does that make me a racist? I’m just assuming you are black, but even if you are not, you are still a troll. You remind me of a black guy I used to know who loved nothing better than to accuse the most liberal whites he could find of being racist. It tickled the shit out of him to see them fall all over themselves trying to convince him that he was wrong.
@MummyButterfly & PopePhilly : I’m far from the german border, I live in Lyon, but I was born in Grenoble (it’s a city in the middle of the mountains). And my avatar is my Dragon Age character, an elf, and I love her so thanks mummyB
And Pope, I can teach you a loooooooooooot of insults in french if you want, our vocabulary in that matter is just enormous
Also, I never said French were better than anyone, there is racism too. But there never was slavery on french territory, and as mr Zorro called me on “black slaves”, I had to precise that. French history isn’t all clean, with the colonies and all, but slavery on french territory, NO.
And I think Barbie is the best chef too. Doesn’t mean I can’t disagree with some of her behavior sometimes.
Oh and also, mummy, thanks for the thwacking
@crankyguy
stop using the rethorical device called strawman
then i be glad to reply with anything else but the bunny face
not sure what my skincolor adds to the discussion?
would i be less credible by being black?
=:3
bunnyface
@Leto: That would be AWESOME! I love knowing how to say random insulting phrases in other languages. I need to ask my grandfather if he knows any in Armenian. That would throw a lot of people off.
My GOD this thread has become entertaining. I don’t even care if no one reads the actual recap anymore.
@zorro, you will have to point out the strawman that you think I have erected. You will also have to point out the ad hominem attacks against you, since I can’t find them without your help. Your going “strawman, strawman, strawman” is pretty much the same as a little kid covering his ears while yelling “I can’t hear you! I can’t hear you! I can’t hear you!” Know what I mean?
@leto
In the history of the Atlantic slave trade, the French turned four times as many Africans into slaves as the Americans did, they used them far more brutally, and French slavers not only got a head-start on Americans, they continued the slave trade — legally — until 1830, long after the rest of Europe had given it up. And they kept at it clandestinely until after the U.S. Civil War. France officially abolished slavery in its colonies only 14 years before Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation, and then only under pressure from slave uprisings.
“if I think that you are a troll, does that make me a racist? ”
implying my point was that everyone who hates me is racist!
my point was that barbie was hated from day 1 becasue of racism
and that people fail to see it becasue of racism
this being said
would i lose credibility by beeing black?
why does it matter for this argument that you present anecdotal evidence of a supposed black friend of yours who supposedly acused supposedely non-racist people of racism
anyways what i really wanted to say:
=:3
bunnyface
would i be less credible by being black?
Nope. When I said that I assumed you are black, I hoped that would imply that I’m not sure about it. And the reason for the assumption is that I think it would be more likely for a black person to have your particular bug up his ass than a white person.
@zorro, my anecdote is not “evidence” of anything. It’s just an anecdote. Those are allowed, aren’t they? Your imagination of racism is not evidence of anything either.
@Pope : Ok, so. “Vas te faire foutre” means go fuck yourself. Well, “go and get yourself fucked”, really.
Every insult you know can be increased by the word “espèce” : “espèce de con” “espèce d’abruti” works with english words too “espèce de fucker” “espèce de bitch” xD
“shut the fuck up” —> “ta gueule”, or “ferme ta gueule”, or, if you’re very angry or frustrated, “ferme ta PUTAIN de gueule”. You can use “putain” like you use fucking or fuck, or even shit.
When I break something, or I hurt myself, or I’m very croos, I say “putain de bordel de merde”, it’s a very used phrased actually ^^.
Then, for “bitch”, you have a lot of words. “connasse” (my favorite with “poufiasse”), “pétasse”, “salope”. I’d say Robyn is a connasse. Dana is a pétasse. And Tiffany was a “grosse dégueullasse” (big nasty bitch)
For “moron” you have “crétin”, “abruti”, “débile”, and they’re a good equivalent for “douchebag” too, though you could say “connard” or “salaud” if the guy is bitchy.
Have enough? :p
(that’s incredibly funny to teach curses, I’m just laughing like and idiot and my husband facepalms behind his desk)
implying my point was that everyone who hates me is racist!
I don’t think anyone here hates you. This site and the people who post on it treat their trolls very well if you ask me. YOU have said outright that anyone who disagrees with you in this discussion is a racist.
why exactly did you assume that, though?
what does that say about you?
why is it more likely for a black person to have any sort of bug up his ass than a white person?
why did you bring up that allegedly existing black friend of yours? does his alleged behavior matter in this debate? are you saying that becasue your (i ASSUME imagined) friend behaved in a certain way all allegations of racism are null and void?
does that sound like sound logic to you?
since you could neither produce anything that convinced me that barbie was asking for it nor why my remarks are implausible
i am going to say this:
ok this discussion is over
and close with my final argument:
=:3
bunnyface
I don’t think Zorro is Black. I think Zorro is a myopic Native American with a bum leg, wonky eye, and severe lisp. In other words, girl knows discrimination!
@Leto: Right now, I love you a little bit.
I’m going to write these all down as soon as I get home from work tonight!
@crankyguy: I don’t know if you’re familiar with the comedian Steve Byrne. He has a bit where is says the best way to win any argument is to just say, “Last time I checked, this was America!” and then walk away. I wonder if that would work in this case. I also think that I’m going to try to win an argument by just calling my opponent racist. It would be wonderful in a formal debate setting.
Oh! That’s what we should all do – just post our skin colours! Down the line!
Wait, do you want our skin tones currently? (If so, I’m more of a lobster, 3 hours tubing does that.)
Do you want our skin tones normally? (Which season? And do freckles count?)
Do you want our heritage? (If so, I’m quite perturbed that with the significant portion of American Indian I have, I got the features – pretty eyes – and not the skin colour, like my children and siblings.)
This is such a fun game!
BTW – I had play rehearsal all week for a show I’m directing – did we not have any HK or Masterchef’s this week???
@Leto, I have a book buried somewhere with the title something like “The French You Never Learned in High School.” I need to find that book and paste a printout of your last post on the inside cover.
@MummyButterfly: No. There was a break this week because of the Olympics.
and @zorro : I said slavery didn’t exist on French territory. Meaning there never was any slaves on French soil, French people never owned salves. Were there some horrible people who participated in slave trading in the colonies? Yes. Were there families in France owning slaves? no, no, no and no.
@sarcas : oh my, i’m so ashamed but that description made me burst with laugh. Maybe it’s because I’m having somuch fun with curses. or maybe I’m just a horrible person.
@mummybutterfly
it apears as if HK is on some sort of break
i bet ramsay is watching the olympic games in UK
@zorro, why do you hate Christina so much? Is it because she’s a lesbian? Why do you hate lesbians?
See? Do you see how that sounds? For the love of fuck.
@Leto, MERCI for the lesson! The two years of high school French I took never covered those words.
@PopePhilly and Leto – thanks, my life is on DVR right now – if I can make it through Hell Week and Opening Weekend, we’ll be fine, but I got distressed when I couldn’t find either on my recordings last night!
Excuse me! @PopePhilly and Zorro.
why exactly did you assume that, though?
I thought I explained that.
what does that say about you?
I dunno. That I’m racist? Is that the answer you are fishing for?
I think BlueCanary just won the internet. Brilliant!
@leto
i am not saying french people are bad!
i was just saying that french did own slaves
french enslaved 4 times the amount of folks than the americans/english
so if you enslave someone and sell him that is basically owning slaves
you took away their freedom and you sold them liek any other of your property
i am not saying that YOU owned slaves
but there were a lot of french people who owned slaves
the slavery was largely statefunded
again i am not saiyng the french were the onlöy ones who did it
i am not claiming only white people owned slaves
for example: egypt (blacks who ownedslaves)
or persians(asians who owned slaves)
but to say that never was there slavery on french soil or by french people is a lie
we all know that French navy galleons were manned by slaves, people brought their slaves to france(so much that the number of blacks in france grew constantly), CHATTELSLAVERY was big in france at one time
i am not saying these french are all bad
but please
this is about HK and the abuse of my favourite contestant barbie!
and i stated why i think everyone hates her
and why everyoen was quick to blame barbie for team red’s dysfunctionality
can we now end this tired debate?
i get it
you people hate me/my opinion
good for you (here have yourself some bunny face: =:3 )
but you have got to acknoledge that i at least stated my opinion
and i am sure i am not the only one who thinks that team red’s hatred was based on racism
i can’t keep posting bunny faces as they don’t grow on trees
but here is one last bunny face to comfort leto and cranky and all the others who i liked and whose comments i enjoyed before this debate started
=:3
bunnyface
i wont answer anymore
unless related to something else
but i will continue to read the recaps as i find delight in reading them after a good drama packed ep of hell’s kitch
=:3
=:3
=:3
I always wanted to win the Internet.
@blue
i really enjoyed your recaps same goes for philly
no i don’t hate lesbians
and i don’thate christina
but i went from liking her a lot to not really giving a rats ass,
due to her jumping on the we-hate-barbie-train.
but you don’t have to take my word for it
because i might have lied
at any rate i would liek to present you at this point with teh comfort only supplied by a bunny face
but i just recently ran out of bunnyfaces so this will have to do:
smileyface
Well, Zorro, I’m going to use your own logic here. Since you defended yourself against BlueCanary asking if you hate lesbians, that must mean there is some truth to it.
@BlueCanary: I still judge at college debate tournaments (nerd alert). If I saw someone use an argument like that, not only would I award them the round and give them perfect speaker points, I’d probably let them have the internet as well!
the thing is I didn’t get defensive about it
the thing is I did not get upset or angered!
but I refuse to make any more posts when I can’t finish with a bunny face
as the lack of comfort they provide makes for very heated arguments
but it is often true that where there is smoke there is often something causing the smoke in the form of a smoke creating process
zorro, if it means anything, let me say that it would tickle the shit out of me to see Barbie win Hell’s Kitchen, mostly because it would be a big slap in the face to all the white bitches that she would beat out.
There was a Waffle House cook some seasons back who took all kinds of shit because she did not have a “fine dining” background. During a breakfast challenge, the “fine dining chefs” could not make a decent egg if their lives depended on it. I loved seeing that Waffle House cook wipe the smug off their faces while kicking their asses at the same time.
=:3 =:3 =:3
I stole ALL the bunnyfaces.
Oh, how I love it when a troll says “this discussion is OVER” or words to that effect but keeps coming back because they are never really over.
zorro, you might benefit from re-reading some of your own posts; you have not been misquoted. But you have misquoted many on this thread.
You claim to know the reason for all the Barbie hate therefore you are all knowing all seeing. So, can you tell me why my dog barks at the mailman? I’ll give you a hint – the mailman hate has nothing to do with his skincolor.
@sheesh
can you, maybe, let me have one?
Zorro needs to go over to the T&T recaps. And get lessons on how to be an entertaining troll from the pageant moms.
Nevah..they are all mine.
MINE I TELL YA!
MwhaahhawhhaaaMWHahahahaha *cough* heh.
I had to take them.
You were giving them out irresponsibly.
Limited supply and all.
This reminds me of that Curb Your Enthusiasm episode where Larry’s dog barked at the delivery guy and then Wanda Sykes. Wanda labeled the dog a racist. But later on, the dog was nice to Larry’s black private investigator yet tried to tear Rosie O’donnell’s head off. Turns out the dog was a homophobe!
@sheesh
after all they don’t grow on trees, do they?
ok don’t get used to it
but i think i can afford to give away one additional frogface
(some of those do grow on trees)
while not as comforting as the bunnyfaces these are genereally a good and cheap substitute in case of bunny-shortage
8()
frogface
@sarcasatire, I wonder if the story about Larry David’s dog fits Zorro’s definition of a straw man argument.
I didn’t know Wanda Sykes is a lesbian.
@cranky, yea, she came out years ago. She and her partner have twins that may be 4-5 yrs old by now.
If you combine the bunnyface with the frogface, it looks like someone receiving a teabag…. =:3 8()
“Frogface”?
Now THAT’s racist against the French. It’s outrageous. I’m outraged!
Vunter, that was hilarious! My inner frat boy is clapping maniacally.
@Vunter: I’m going to start using teabag face! I have many a friend who will appreciate it.
@Leto: You can’t possibly be too outranged. To properly show outrage on TVgasm, you must write in runon sentences while ignoring all grammar rules. You must never use punctuation and heaven help you if you spell anything correctly. You must also resort to name calling. I’m disappointed by your outrage.
I don’t understand the bunnyface.
Zorro, just so I’m perfectly clear – you liked Christina but then stopped when she started coming down on Barbie? So – at the beginning of the show she wasn’t a racist or act like a racist, but then became a racist? Or might a more simple explanation be that once she got to know Barbie – decided she didn’t like her – and race had nothing to do with it? I do believe Tiffany and Kimmie are probably racists and didn’t like Barbie from the get go because of the color of her skin. What I can’t believe is that every single person who doesn’t like Barbie appears in your mind to be a racist. As I said before – I want Barbie to win. My husband doesn’t like her at all. His dislike of her is that he thinks she appears arrogant in her talking head shots. I’m not sure he even knows she’s black.
Yeah I know, I’m pathetic when it goes to outrage and trolling. Even in my own language i have trouble mispelling and mistreating grammar, and I love english too much to do it any (intentional) harm ^^
But come on. The frogface + the French, that was funny, no? No? *sigh*
@Leto: The reason for your outrage was funny. I’ll totally give you that.
It makes me happy that there is someone out there who can’t stand to butcher any language. I used to work in a customer service call center. We would all be told to update our notes as simply as possible and encouraged to abbreviate. A supervisor of mine said, “Just type like you text!” I responded with, “I punctuate and use full sentences in my text messages.”
Literacy is fun!
So, do people still refer to the French as frogs? And it’s derogatory, yes?
So, what’s up with all the frog haters? In my part of the South, frogs are like fratboys. Yes, they stay up all night making too much noise and leave the results of their debauchery in the bottom of our pool but, they also have a stellar redeeming quality – they eat mosquitoes. I’m certain fratboys also have redeeming qualities, I just can’t think of any right now. So, we wear earplugs to bed and net all the thousands of eggs out of the pool each morning whilst rousting out the few exhausted frogs still hanging out poolside safe in the knowledge that our chances of getting West Nile are just that much less than those who chase the froggies away.
Does this sound like the French? Is that why they are called frogs?
i think i have overstayed my welcome!
i wont ever read any of your recaps again!
and wont be seen her ever again
here is my unfiltered opinion as a goodbye
barbie was the victim of racist abuse (inlcuding INSULTS, THREATS OD VIOLENCE, BULLYING)
if you don’t see that you are racist aswell!
and if this opinion is grounds for ganging up on me in the comments
and making me everyones enemy then yall probably racist aswell
there i said it
i think YOU are a RACIST dude
no i don’t think you are a decent person
and no i don’t call people racist for nothing
but that’S the only explanation that makes sense of these 120 comments
bye bye
and i am sort of sad i wont be reading these recaps anymore
(i did red every single last one of philly’s and blue’s recaps)
but yeah the way teh comments went my appetite is gone (pun intended)
and by the way i still do not believe ramsay is a racist
i can’t say teh same of you fucks!
=:3
Were your opinions filtered before? You are entitled to your opinion and if you believe those who dislike Barbie are racist, well, that’s your opinion. Not actually knowing any of the people involved, I cannot state with certainty whether others on the red team are racist or not. But my opinion is that many are jealous of her cooking skills and unflappability. And they’d feel that way about her regardless of her skin color.
If she gets eliminated before the end, will you alter your opinion of Ramsey and decide he MUST be racist to ask for her jacket?
Nice language.
Tu et un ane!
@Pope : I’m sure I butcher your language sometimes, even if I try not to ^^. But yeah I know what you mean, I send texts in full words too, and I have a very hard time decoding “text language”. Some people even use it on the internet, and it enrages here is an example : to say “someone/somebody” we say “quelqu’un”. So in text language, some people write “kelkun”. The problem is 1) it’s damn ugly and 2) in France we have azerty keyboards, “q” and “u” are placed strategically near the “e”, and the “k” isn’t. so to write “kelkun” with a computer keyboard just takes more time than writing the full world. How stupid is that? but I think I’m a little of a grammar nazi, too :p
@timgunnssister : I believe we are called “frogs” because we are supposed to eat a lot of it. Well I don’t, but a lot do (and snails too). A lot of French call the Brittons “rosbif”. Relationship between France and UK is so healthy x). We are said to not like each other. I personnaly don’t give a shit, but there’s a lot of history ^^’.
And can I have my hair braided too? :3 (yeah I’m nine hours ahead of you, dunno how many kilometers that is, but braids… Can’t resist that ^^)
@Sheesh *tu ES un âne*
(<—- there, grammar nazi… I can't help it)
@Leto: You are officially invited to every slumber party I have from now on. You, timgunnssister, and I can all braid our hair and talk about the latest issue of Seventeen in a most grammatically correct fashion!
Oh, and I guess no one paid attention to Zorro for five minutes. That’s probably what led to the last rant.
I copied it down wrong…merde.
I took two years of French in high school and two years of Spanish in college.
My spanish teacher would call my name and I would say “Oui?”
Okay, I’ll admit it. I’m racist. When I go to Popeyes, I only ask for dark meat.
@sarcasatire: I just let out a loud laugh in my office because of your comment. Does that make me racist too? Also, now I’m so hungry for Popeyes.
Merde is the ONLY word I remember from 2 years of French. *sigh* And it’s such a good word but I rarely get a chance to use it.
merdemerdemerde
I feel all better now.
@Pope : oh my… Lyon -Philadelphia —> 6281.54 kilometers, 8hours plane and… 900$ *sigh* here goes my slumber party. Mind you, I think I’m a little old now for that kind of things. Still…
@Sheesh : lol! I did the same with my spanish teacher in high school, I said “yes” when she talked to me!
Also the only Popeye I know is an ugly sailor who eat spinach. But let’s see if I can use my brain 5 seconds… Dark meat is like the tighs in chicken, yes? so maybe Popeyes is like KFC? (pleeeease please tell me I understood a joke for once pleeeeaaaaase)
Yes, Popeyes is kinda sorta like KFC.
But Popeye’s has shrimp po’boys so they are the king of my world.
You got it Leto!!!!
@PopePhilly: Anytime is the right time for a two piece and a biscuit.
@Leto: Yes, like KFC but definitely better (at least in my opinion). Popeyes offers a more Cajun style of fried chicken. Also, their crawfish ettouffee rocks my proverbial socks.
Oops. Etouffe even!
Mother fucker! Etouffee! There!
@Sarcasatire: Sadly, I can’t tonight. Tonight is kickball/bar night. I’ve saved up a lot of my Weight Watchers points for beer. Perhaps I can go to Popeyes after I weigh in on Sunday. Oddly, their point values aren’t so bad.
And I always thought the British hated the French beause the French got Brigette Bardot and the British got Margaret Rutherford (look ‘em up – you’ll understand).
i think YOU are a RACIST dude
I looked over the names here to make sure that I could flatter myself by thinking you are referring to me, and I just realized that I am one of only a few dudes on this thread. I guess I never thought about it before. I sure hope the few other dudes aren’t RACIST.
there, see, you could have said “merde! Etouffee!putain!”
and yay I understood a joke \o/
and timgunnssister : have you seen the face of Bardot in 2012? she’s scary (also she wouldn’t have been to the taste of Zorro, she’s kinda REALLY racist)
I don’t like chicken breast because I’m not a lesbian. – zorroism
@crankyguy: I’m will to bet that zorro has never met someone who wasn’t racist according to him.
Apparently Gordon Ramsay is the only non-racist in zorro’s universe.
Wasn’t Bardot in her prime in the 50s? Even Elizabeth Taylor wasn’t much to look at in the 21st Century. And Kathleen Turner and Carrie “Princess Leia” Fisher . . . I used to lust after them hard. Have you seen them lately? Have you? If you haven’t, don’t even go look . . . it’s shocking.
Suggested battle cry for #200: MERDE!!!!
@sarcasatire: I think it would be a more fitting zorroism to say that you not liking chicken breasts makes you homophobic. Anyone who disagrees with that must be homophobic as well.
And you should space your
Argument like a haiku
To take up more space
@crankyguy: I second that!
I’ll see your haiko and raise you one iambic pentameter.
Or haiku, even. *facepalm*
As long as the accusations of prejudice are written in a poetic form, it’s all good.
And trust me, even today, Bardot looks better than Rutherford ever did. Incredible actress but she looked like a tank in a dress.
Popeyes and KFC are okay, but the best fried chicken is at Indi’s, which is a Kentucky place, only in Lexington and Louisville, and my god, that chicken will make you cry. It ruined me for all other chicken.
I’m assuming Leto will be bringing her FRENCH BRAIDING skills to the slumber parties?? Or does assuming that make me racist (since French is totally a race)?
And PopePhilly, I love how you save your WW points for beer. It’s like “Sure, I’ll diet. Hand me that IPA and three chicken wings.”
@BlueCanary: You gotta know what’s important in life. I had fruit salad for breakfast which was 2 points and a 6 point salad for lunch. I’ve got 18 points left for the day and my 49 flex points for the week to go drinking tonight! I don’t got out too much, so it’s nice to have just one night a week where I don’t have to super analyze what I’m eating and drinking.
And, yes, you’re totally racist.
Now taking bets on Zorro popping back in before comment 20.
I meant comment 200.
PopePhilly, light or dark beer?
Be careful how you answerrrrr….
I hope zorro does not make a fool of me, but I believe he won’t be back. He promised, after all.
And really, this must be said to zorro.
I don’t think that word means what you think it means.
@Sheesh: It really depends. If I’m playing post-game flipcup or I’m at one of the kickball parties, I just go with light beer because it’s cheap (our league bar gives us some decent specials). If I’m drinking on my own, I like to stay with lagers and ales. Alaskan Amber is probably tied with Smitchwick’s as a favorite. I grew up about 40 minutes from the Yuengling brewery, so I am required by law to like them (only the lager or black and tan – Yuengling Premium is just piss in a bottle). I do like porters and stouts from time to time. The Alaskan Brewing Company makes an AMAZING smoked porter. It goes wonderfully with a good steak.
@crankyguy: And we know he ALWAYS keeps his promises. Get ready with your battle cry.
@PopePhilly: It’s not racist if you invite me to the slumber party only because I can cornbraid your hair like Bo Derek’s. I’ll bring my GirlTalk board game, too.
@sarcasatire: Everyone is invited to the slumber party. My slumber parties are equal opportunity…especially if you can bring GirlTalk. Mall Madness or Pretty, Pretty, Princess would be good choises as well.
I used to have the Sweet Valley High game. The boys ended up being way cuter in my head than they were depicted on the date time playing cards.
MERDE!!!
Yay!
@PopPhilly: It’s not racist if you ask me to bring GirlTalk. But it is racist if you ask me to bring Popeyes.
PPhilly congratulations on your first troll! Took forever to play catchup, but it was so worth it.
Hmmm. catchup sounds like a condiment.
Just curious to know why we only top the century mark when trolls are involved?
@BlueCanary: So were the guys in Dream Phone.
@sarcastire: I’m going to quote an old friend of mine, “Liking fried chicken is not a black stereotype. Liking fried chicken is an EVERYBODY stereotype. Fried chicken is delicious!”
@snowshoecat: I’ve been totally bragging to my friends about my first troll. I’m officially (non-porn) famous on the internet!
@BlueCanary : It’s totally racist, especially as in french, french braids are called “tresses africaines”. African braids. Zorro would have had an aneurism.
Kudos Sarcas for the 200th merde!
@Pope, I don’t do weight watchers but i did give up cheese and fatty meats just so i can eat cupcakes with buttercream everyday. So I totally agree that you have to decide what’s important. :p
Wait.. Barbie’s black ?
Wow, I actually learned something! I always wanted to know what the French called ‘French braids’.
Just like the ones I used to play with.
@Moli: Me too. I never knew the French were called frogs. For a bunch of racists, you Gasmii sure are worldly.
@PopePhilly: That reminds of my trip to La Paz, Bolivia where every street has at least one fried chicken joint. I wanted to throw my hands up in exaltation and say, “See! It’s not just us!” lol
@Pyper: That may be the best comment of the entire thread! Nicely done.
@Sarcasatire: Oddly enough, tonight my kickball team was trying to come up with our theme for next week’s game (we try to come up with something silly to do just for fun). My team is rather racially and ethnically diverse. Someone jokingly said we should come as stereotypes of our races and ethnicities. A black gentleman on my team suddenly yells out, “I guess I’ll bring the chicken.” I got to use the “fried chicken is a human being stereotype” line. No matter where I go, I can’t get away from this thread! Haha.
“I didn’t know Wanda Sykes is a lesbian.”
Me neither. Although I am more suprised that she is a comedian.
I wanna come to the slumber party! Let’s look at the Fug Girls blog and laugh at celebrities with no taste!
Since we are all grown, I would say let’s not put each other’s underwear in the freezer… one par of mine is all that would fit… Sorry, folks!
I didn’t add(thank for the reminder sacrasatire), I had never heard of the French being called ‘frogs’ until this thread and some random news article where the commenters based the French calling them…frogs…this happened today!
I learned about the French being referred to as frogs by watching NCSI… they had a character called “Le Grenouille” (The Frog). He was a dastardly Frenchman who wanted to overthrown democray and do mean things to people.
I thought it was common knowledge, but I guess it’s mainly the Brittons who call us that. Most people really don’t care, and I personnaly find it very funny. It’s not like we were called “cockroaches” or “dung flies”
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@Sharon : LA grenouille
I remember that character. I was a little sad they didn’t pick a french actor, his french speaking was pathetic.
This place is so edifying!!! The things we learn from each other. Now that we know what the Frogs call a braid, what do they call the kiss?
Learned about Frogs from hubbycat. He’s waaaaaaaaaaay smart.
Unfortunately, we don’t have a pretty word to call a french kiss, it’s only slang.
“pelle”, “palot”, “galoche”, “patin” we have a lot of words for it, none of which is romantic
(And to be honest, I could never understand why so many americans finds France and french stuff romantic, especially Paris which has to be one of the worst cities in France)
Thank you for the information, Leto @217.
I was in Paris several years ago and was horrified by the way the women were dressed. So untidy.
Never could understand why “provincial” is used as an insult when I found the provinces lovely and the people friendly. As opposed to the Parisians.
But France has always been held up as the epitome of culture, and its liberal attitudes toward sex generations ago when we were in thrall to Victoria are probably the roots of our ideas.
@Leto, this is totally off topic, but I want to get a ruling. In my college major, the two of the most famous French in the development of the mathematics of the subject are Joseph Fourier and Léon Charles Thévenin. I remember the professors making a special effort to pronounce Fourier’s name as close to French as they could manage it with the vowels sounding as in “poor pay.” But with Thévenin, they all pronounce it “thev uh nun” as if it were an English word, where I always thought it should be closer to “thay vuh nin.” So . . . my question is which of those two is closer to how you would pronounce “Thévenin”?
@Leto, I should have left the ‘h’ out “tay vuh nin” of my effort at the French pronunciation.
@snowshoecat : Yes, parisians are very rude and think the rest of the country are peasants or whatever. I saw once a bunch of Parisian tourists who were surprised not finding cows in a city of 150000 inhabitants…
And Paris is dog poop paradise.
@Crankyguy: The french nasals like “an, in, on” are a bitch for english speakers(like for french speakers the sounds of “th”, we just suck with those). It’s neither “nun”, neither “nin”, but I think a perfect in between is the better match. The thing is, in english you pronounce all the letters, but in french “in” is a “new sound”.
)
Maybe the sound “ain” in “ain’t” is a close match too. (well, not if you have a southern accent
So… Te vuh nain ? xD
Oh my, I’m really not good at that.
@Leto, thanks for taking the time. It’s closer to what I always thought but could never convince anybody in my classes. At any rate, in the first syllable, the ‘h’ is silent and the ‘v’ is moved to the second syllable. I always pronounce French ‘é’ as an English ‘long a’ figuring that I would be correct more times than not. My professors’ pronunciation of the first syllable of Thévenin rhymes with ‘Kev’ as in the name Kevin but with an ‘h’ sound if that makes any sense at all. It always bugged me that they made such an effort with Fourier, but just didn’t give a shit when it came to Thévenin.
Parisians may be rude, but there is also an old joke about how to ask for the time in New York City: “Excuse me sir, but do you have the time or should I just go fuck myself?”
Cranky, I always thought the answer to @223 was “yes, but not the inclination.”
Yeah that joke exists in french too
I guess very big cities tend to change most of people into assholes. Mind you, Paris isn’t that big of a city compared to a lot others.
And you are right, Crankyguy, it would be pronounced like “kev” if it way “thèvenin” but the é is a little like a long a. With the mouth a little less opened ^^. So you pwned your professor big time
Missing broth??? Really that would win over RAWR anything, but
I guess they needed a REAL first and saved a few bucks too
@zorro, you are the racist gtfo. Just read all the posts, everyone else great job and thx
@Josh are you Masterchef Josh ?
Hey, guys, just an FYI (in case you didn’t already know this). No “Hell’s Kitchen” this week again. I guess the Olympics are kind of important and Fox doesn’t want to go up against them in ratings.
It’s kind of cool that people are still commenting on here though. As a new recapper, I get so excited when I see a new comment pop up. Haha.
Robyn has to be a plant like Elise last season, they need them for the drama.
Clemenza was especially disgusting during the challenge. He put one side of a clean apron on the dirty floor then walks on the apron before putting it on. Both sides are dirty. He must always be cooking with a dirty apron if that is his routine.
Everyone knows Dana can’t cook. What producer got her this gig?