Teen Mom Recap: Anger Detox

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   BedHeadJen
   Posted June 15, 2012 at 10:20 am

   Sugarbush Maguire, You had me at “Fat guy Beard of Denial.” I am unsure of the exact location that my husband and I conceived, but Farrah has inspired me to figure it out.
   I thought it would be a fine General Foods International Coffee moment to share with my daughter. We can follow the moment with an ugly cry in Farrah’s honor.
   Between the sweet and unselfish Catelynn and Tyler, and the invasion of privacy and level of dysfunction that Brandon and Teresa were willing to expose themselves to, I think it is safe to say that Carly is the most loved and wanted child ever born.
   FREE MICHAEL!

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   Andyourlittledogtoo
   Posted June 15, 2012 at 10:34 am

   You know, they always say ‘five’ but it really means ‘two and a half’ because of the time off for each day of good behavior. Does anyone really think Amber will be out in less than the full five? I think she’ll be lucky if she isn’t convicted of a serious crime while in prison that tacks time on to her current sentence. She is so the person who goes in for a couple years and winds up a lifer for shanking her cell mate. Ah, Amber. Poor Leah. I really admire Gary for his ability to step up and be a good dad for Leah in spite of his abysmal self-esteem issues and just general problems getting through life successfully (so far). He really interacts well with her and obviously loves her very much. He is doing what he can with the abilities he does have, which is far more than Amber ever even thought of doing. I hope he can pull himself together better some day soon so he can be the dad he seems to really want to be for her. He is just operating at such a deficit starting out.

   Yeah, there’s something seriously wrong in Farrah’s family. She is operating from such a deep rooted rage and need to punish her parents and her parents are operating from such a deep need to let her punish them that you know there has to be something seriously effed up under the surface there somewhere. All that rage and passive aggression and masochism doesn’t just come out of nowhere. Debra is probably the worst mother I’ve ever witnessed on this show and she does it all with such a self-righteous aura of sacrifice and martyrdom. It’s quite the performance. And if Farrah wasn’t such a completely irredeemable beast I’d feel sorry for her. But she is and I don’t. Two people who really deserve each other. I thought it was really telling that neither Michael nor Debra nor Farrah really parted as you would expect family to do — no hugs, no kisses, no well wishes really. Just pretty much, ‘Yeah, so see ya around’. That is not a family that needs to be spending much time together I’m thinking. Or wants to be.

   Maci is as always a manipulative witch. She is pulling the same shtick with Kyle that she pulled with Ryan. Ryan isn’t a saint but frankly if I were him and I was dealing with a gf like Maci I’d be distant and dismissive too. And she had no business expecting him to drop his life to pick up Bentley for a reason that she knew about well in advance but simply didn’t feel the need to ask him about it in a timely fashion and it’s none of her business what he is doing during his time when it’s not his time with Bentley. None. She can’t stand it that she can’t control him any more and that he won’t march to her demands and honestly I think it really chaffs her that he doesn’t want her any more either. She is so transparent. And why would you constantly harp about dropping off Bentley at daycare In FRONT of HIM as though you were torn up about leaving him on the side of the road to fend for himself forever? How in the world is a two year old as bright and verbal as Bentley not supposed to be concerned when his mom keeps talking like she is dropping him off at the pound and not putting a positive spin on all the fun he’ll have at daycare? He’s not a stupid child. She just wants him to be upset. And when Kyle came back to the car and said he was fine she was not happy to hear it. She was disappointed. Stupid bitch.

   Cate and Tyler – still love them. I don’t know what to do with them though. And I dearly wish Catelyn would find something else to do with her hair. That is a terrible style for her and she’s kept it for three seasons now. Seriously, does she not see herself? Sigh. Sweet kids though.

   Excellent recap, Sugarbush.

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   maria
   Posted June 15, 2012 at 10:47 am

   It is hard dropping your kid off anywhere for the first time. When I left my son at pre-school he was kicking, screaming and crying, In fact I think he came close to giving the teacher a black eye, but she literally threw me out. I was crying so hard the entire ride to work. She later called me to tell me he calmed down and is now happy & playing with the others. After that he loved it.

   I also never had him in daycare first. He went straight from my mothers care, where she only cared for him to preschool. Must be a state rule? I would not like to be told that my kid HAD to be in daycare.

   I love Catilynn and Tyler too but their storyline is the worst. Move on with you lives, you both chose adoption for a reason. You were too young so go do young kid things and leave Carly alone.

   Great Recap.

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   Sugarbush
   Posted June 15, 2012 at 10:59 am

   @BedHeadJen – I know, right!? If my mom ever pointed out to me where I was conceived, I’d straight up knock her out and then barf. I’d have nightmares forever and be scarred for life. Just not cool at ALL. I find it especially gross seeing as how her relationship with Derek didn’t seem to be all that serious.

   @AYLDT – I noticed the lack of goodbye affection, too! Debra and Michael were like “peace, bro”. I’m pretty sure in my family we kiss and huge like 12 times just in case we forgot to before parting ways. And with my son…let’s just say my mom asked if she could take him today and I felt like I was leaving him for a month (see? I’m a mean old bitch, but a softie at heart).

   @maria – That’s the thing. 99% of kids have a hard time being left away from their parents for the first time. You gotta’ just do it like a bandaid. I don’t like leaving my son anywhere still, because I miss him. It took 6 weeks for my son to stop screaming bloody murder each time I dropped him at pre-K the first year…and then they changed classrooms and it started all over again. It makes me sad sometimes, but most of the time I realize he’s just trying to make me feel guilty because the teachers say he stops as soon as I’m out of earshot. lol I guess he’s kinda’ like Debra. YIKES!

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   sheesh
   Posted June 15, 2012 at 11:19 am

   I loved reading this recap.
   Loved the Lovitz screencap!

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   April
   Posted June 15, 2012 at 11:24 am

   Great recap! I am dying over that picture of Amber with Gary having the OH NOS! look on his face where she looks about to hit him. Can I order a poster of that?! LOL!

   We agree on Maci 100%. I used to like her too but now she pisses me off. It started last season. I thought the same thing about the bike. You go tricycle then bike. My boys did not get their first bike till 4 years old. He is not ready at 2. Of course, how would she know that? I doubt she reads parenting magazines or anything.

   I also was kinda worried about Sophia running into traffic at the cemetary. haha even though I knew it was not going to happen since we would have heard about it.

   My husband was like “No one ever goes to rehab for anger! Its only for drugs or alcohol!” I think he may be right…. It may just be prescription drugs but I think she found a doctor willing to put her on pain meds and something too much so. She said something about pain at one point and I thought she meant body pain. A lot of women have body pain after birth so maybe she got on a small amount and kept upping it and got addicted? I had the same thing happen to me with the body pains afterwards, but I never got addicted. Apparently that is the new trend of mothers being addicted to pain meds because our bodies get fucked up from childcare and child having and then we get addicted.

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   April
   Posted June 15, 2012 at 11:44 am

   Maria: I live in Chattanooga and they are full of shit. It is not a state rule to have daycare before preschool. I am a SAHM and my twins started preschool at 3. But I actually took them to interact with other kids on a regular basis since they were babies unlike Maci. I take mine to playgrounds and playgroups and have playdates. Maci does none of this so poor Bentley just does not get to play with kids his own age. So he probably needs daycare because that is the only way he is getting any social interaction with other kids. Maci certainly won’t make that happen.

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   Sugarbush
   Posted June 15, 2012 at 12:10 pm

   @April – I’m a work & stay-at-home mom so my son usually is only around myself, my mom, and my mom’s biz partner all day, so that’s why I took him to Pre-K starting shortly after he turned 2. He’s really outgoing and friendly (he gets this from his father, clearly), so he has always done fine with other kids. I have no idea if it has to do with personality or what. I think you’re right. I don’t think she ever takes him out of the confines of their home so that Bentley can meet people that aren’t her and Kyle. That really sucks for Bentley. He’s going to be more socially inept than I am.

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   notwithoutmytv
   Posted June 15, 2012 at 12:19 pm

   I had SAHM–Sympathetic Ass Hysterical Misery–after my friend gave birth. It was this sharp, shooting pain in my ass area. 24 hours a day, it never stopped. The pain kept me from sleeping. I stopped finding joy in my favorite activities–when the pain allowed me to even try to keep up with hobbies. And I realized, this pain in the ass I’m feeling, that must be what parents feel for 21 years (or more, if the kid boomerangs).

   So, yeah. I’d drop the little tyke off in Ohio, while it was still cute enough that someone would take it in.

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    Moli
    Posted June 15, 2012 at 12:19 pm

    I’m still on page 3, but I don’t even it was 2.3 seconds. I think it was the time it takes to blink.

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    LindsayBluth
    Posted June 15, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    I was going to say that in Tennessee it is not required that children attend daycare before preschool, but I see April has already gotten to it (Former Moc here April-and like Heather from RHofNY says, holla!).

    I love Caitlyn and Tyler. And though they chose adoption, more and more placement centers stress the benefits of a semi-open adoption. Personally I like to make sure that the birth mom/parents and the adoptive parents are comfortable in whatever agreement they choose. I have had clients who chose not to parent, but still wanted to have a semi-active role in the child’s life, just to know that the child is safe and happy. Tyler and Caitlyn remind me the most of this type. But I’ve also had clients who want the adoption to be finalized ASAP, never personally or physically meet the adoptive parents and choose not to hold the child after birth. It’s whatever that works best for all parties involved.

    Caitlyn, Tyler, Brandon and Theresa seem to have a fairly healthy arrangement. I assume that it will be MUCH better without the intrusive nature of a film crew. What I have the most trouble stomaching is the mullet twins continually making jabs toward Caitlyn and Tyler for “giving their kid away” or “giving” Carly up (I make sure to never use phrases like that, but whatever). But then again, several things about The Wonderfully Trashtastic Duo make me cringe.

    I’ve always known that my family was too huggy, but that scene with Farrah and her family was telling and a little sad. We hug, kiss cheeks, wet-willy each other and do a million more things to each other to (I guess) show affection. And if we have to leave each other for a long period of time it’s usually pretty dramatic. My husband (who is from New Jersey) isn’t used to such open and blatant displays of affection, but he’s coming around. He came close to leaving this morning without hugging and kissing me goodbye, but he turned around really quickly and kissed me before I panicked. Now that I write this, I realize that we may just be REALLY co-dependent. But at least we enjoy the company of each other (most of the time).

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    lopez06
    Posted June 15, 2012 at 1:56 pm

    Good call on the Farrah’s weird goodbye with both of her parents…. Its not what stood out to me.. To me it was, you obviously have no friends or relatives who are willing to help you. If your dad is the only one helping I think that speaks VOLUMES….. so since these are the only people who help you with everything in your life why are you so disrespectful to them??? I dont get it.

    Catelyn and Tyler are just too sad for me right now…. But bravo to Brandon and Theresa for not allowing cameras on their daughter and for a more private reunion.

    Maci makes me soooo mad….and yes all she wants is control and it KILLS her that she doesnt have it over Ryan who she is still obviously harping feelings for…its written ALL over her face…. and no ryan doesnt have to tell her what he does with his spare time.

    I feel like with Amber she just has so much going on…But when SugarBush said she could use her cage fighting skills in the slammer…I almost peed myself…

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    Chicken Lips
    Posted June 15, 2012 at 7:03 pm

    I too would love the poster of the Gary EEEEK! poster! I was at work when I read this and I laughed so hard I went into a coughing fit. My cube farmmates were less than amused at my wheesing, it was TOTALLY worth it.

    I might be in the minority, but I don’t see it as Debra not wanting to help – I see it as Debra knowing that Farrah is being an incredible asshat, snotting her way through life and that Farrah is going to end up sending the baby back to live with Ma and Pa. And I remember reading somewhere (it might have been a link from a ‘cap last year) that the reason Farrah calls her dad Michael is because her sister isn’t Michael’s and her sister called him Michael and that’s the name that stuck. I might be misremembering though. But I still don’t like Farrah – I wish I knew it all just like her. My life would be a lot easier if I got to live in my parents huge rental property for next to nothing, have my parents watch my kid for free and move half way across the country with no plan at all for taking care of my daughter. Yeah, that’s the ticket.

    When Teen Mom is over, Maci can get a job being a paid spokesperson for ProActive because she’s got some crazy acne and cheap ass makeup. (Is that mean? It probably is. But not untrue, so I’m good.)

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    kthxbai
    Posted June 16, 2012 at 12:56 am

    @Sugarbush this was so good! I put I’ll eat the food of the rich so they can stay skinny straight into my personal goals folder!

    I’ve been wondering about what’ll happen to them after this too. If they’re lucky, not much. But then you should know I’m the most unpositive commenter in Teen Mom history.

    It’s my alter ego Preachy McJudgington’s fault. She doesn’t think any of them should’ve kept the baby. If they had to have it for religious reasons, fine. She’ll even try to be polite about it. But once it’s born, Preachy says it’s not about their bodies and their choices any more. Or their anything. Including their natural feelings of wanting to be the 1 that tends to the baby. That they have even before it’s born.
    But since MTV doesn’t make them get any counseling nobody ever explains stuff like that to them.

    According to Preachy, Catelynn had the right idea of going with that other natural instinctive feeling of wanting the baby to have a better chance at life than they got. Starting with grown up parents that can take care of it. Not to mention what they’re giving to the grown up couple. oKAY Preachy we get it. Now get off my keyboard.

    I can’t stand Debra or Farrah either. I put the biggest blame on Debra though. Since she’s supposed to be the grown person. And since Farrah’s the example of her child raising work I don’t blame her for not wanting to leave a 2 yr old there.

    Debra’s had to get some anger rehab help too. For having a melt down with Sophia there. She wasn’t hurt. All Debra thew at her was a shirt. But there were kitchen knives and the popo involved. It got all in the papers. Debra couldn’t be around the baby for a while. If it’d been up to me Preachy it’d have been a longer while.

    Michael was supposed to be leaving Debra to manage her anger by herself. What happened with that?

    Anyway if she ever got far enough away and stayed there maybe Farrah could improve over time. At least learn to make better makeup choices. WTF was that stuff on her face? Does she think it looks better than orange she usually paints it? It doesn’t. It looks like Nestle’s Quik.

    Sophia’s dad’s family seem real nice. Plus ever since they saw the DNA test they’ve loved Sophia to bits. So I don’t know why — Preachy! knock it off! I’m sorry. She’s really only acts up this bad when she knows I had to take a pain pill.

    For her post-show coping plan, it looks like Amber’s picked suicide by prison. The substance is actually stuff they give people to get them off of narcotic pills. Not methadone. A different 1. That people aren’t supposed to try to get off of cold turkey.

    Her story’s really too sad for here. Whatever went down with the baby sister busted her family. And her dad’s dying of cancer. My guess is she grew up around people taking pills. Because if you’ve seen her mom she’s near about as nodded out as that red headed bicycle baby daddy on the 16 and Pregnant that just ended. The last thing she needed to do was to try to raise a baby. With or without MTV. But of all the babies Leah’s always seemed like to me to be the most advanced and smartest 1s hands down. So maybe a rich viewer or somebody can help Gary get her in a gifted pre school. And a toddler PTSD group.

    @April I used to like Maci too. I actually thought she might be the exception that proves the rule. But she just looked more mature than she is. Specially compared to Farrah and Amber. But all the opportunities from being an OG Teen Mom everybody loved were too much. And now her head’s got turned.

    Which is too bad because she’s got a real nice family. Not rich but well enough off so she and Bentley wouldn’t have had to go without. Even without the show. And I’m sure if it wasn’t for the show Ryan would’ve signed Bentley over before that 1st yr was out.

    Preachy says Ryan’s exhibit number 1 of how come besides making them get counseling, MTV should quit giving any $ or screen time to baby daddies. She even made me type a real long thing about it on my Facebook. Back when the Kardashian sisters hacked TVgasm that time and got everybody so upset.

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    Poopsicle
    Posted June 16, 2012 at 3:23 am

    I applaud this recap! Great job! I think it’s good this is the last season for tm1, these bitches are spent. Of course I agree with everybody about Catelynn-she’s a good person with a horrible haircut. It doesn’t help her weight/forehead situation at all. Please grow it out! And maybe part the top differently. Anyway, Macy has become such a controlling, miserable bitch! I cant stand her and the way I don’t understand a fucking word she says! I know Ryan’s not the most stand up fellow, but if he did half the shit Macy did ( like move away and live with a Neanderthal) shed be suing his ass for custody. She really expects Ryan to sit around and want her back. Everytime he gets a new girlfriend she gets more bitter towards him and looks for little bitchy things to do to piss him off/make him look bad-der. She needs to move on and should’ve spent her money on Proactive instead of a boob job. Amber-sad, what a waste. Farrah-blech.

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    hot cawfee
    Posted June 16, 2012 at 8:24 am

    Thanks for the recap !!!! I am a little behind on my tv watching– am glad I know what to expect going in– sounds like a 2 pinot show.

    After this final season I think Maci will have the hardest time– she seems a little depressed. The baby-daddy has always been an a-hole and not to be relied on. Sadly she is the type of girl that wants and expects a man to take care of her. Her big man (MTV and the lovely pay check) will cease and she will be left to her own devices. I hope MTV follows up with her in 5 years when the cameras
    are gone and no more covers on People .

    Farrah — shut up and go model or what-ever you were doing. At least she worked-Maci I am looking at you—-and was pursuinga a culinary career

    Tyler and Catelynn– sigh– Happy B-day to Carly. Please keep moving forward in your lives.

    Amber–I have a feeling we are going to see alot of tats and facial piercings on her– the rage is so deep inside her and as she stops being physically abusive, her anger will present itself in other ways. She may shave her head or the remainder of her eye-brows.

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    April
    Posted June 16, 2012 at 10:50 am

    Linsday: Holla! Back. I also went to UTC!

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    Liz
    Posted June 16, 2012 at 1:27 pm

    Omg I totally agree with April about that picture! I’d never noticed how Gary looked in it before. Though it also makes me sad.

    So, I just have to say, what a manipulative bitch Maci is. She kicks him out (pulling the “this isn’t your house” is shitty), and then tells her child he left, and has him call to ask him back? Hate.

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    LindsayBluth
    Posted June 16, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    April, I also read on the DM cap that you’d lived in Knoxville. I grew up in Knoxville (now live in Oak Ridge) and grew up dancing as well. We may be besties from way back in the day.

    Last night I ran to Walgreens and grabbed an In Touch magazine. While Teresa isn’t on the cover whining about Juicy going away or being broke, Catelynn (sorry for spelling it incorrectly before, I’m still unsure of the spelling) and Tyler were. I may be tardy for the party, but Cate’s pregnant again. I’m unsure how I feel about reading that, but if they’re happy, then more power to them.

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    April
    Posted June 17, 2012 at 5:29 am

    Cate is pregnant! What?! I don’t know…I mean they have money from MTV in theory but they still have not finished school or anything plus they are still very young. At least they have their shit together more than most kids their age and I know they will be loving parents as long as they keep their kid away from the mullet twins and keep visitation limited and monitored.

    When I lived in Knoxville I lived near Bearden Elementary and danced at Cindi’s I think it was called Dance Academy. I moved when I was 8.

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    S-Natch
    Posted June 17, 2012 at 1:46 pm

    Catelyn is vehemently denying the pregnancy story. She has come out in several outlets saying it is not true. The statement apparently came from “a friend she told.” – yeah, riiight.

    Agree with everything everyone is saying. If I had been Michael I would have told Farrah to get her lazy, spoiled ass behind the wheel of that U Haul and he and Sophia would fly to Florida and meet her there. Anyone taking a pool on what episode Farrah will be sending Sophia back??

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    S-Natch
    Posted June 17, 2012 at 1:47 pm

    PS – Mr S-Natch is a Moc, too!

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    April
    Posted June 17, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    Yeah I also saw where Cate denied the rumors. So sounds like a friend just tried to sell them out for cash to InTouch. Boo.

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    April
    Posted June 17, 2012 at 4:33 pm

    This is a you tube video posted by one of Maci’s snob friends. You can see from the video that they all are basically the mean clique at school that have not yet grown out of that. Vomit.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdWmH-ZmYu4&feature=autoplay&list=UU2crxToznAVqPR-zjjjKagQ&playnext=1

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    April
    Posted June 17, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    Spoilers

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    So I have been googling and Maci and Kyle break up after a loud nasty fight in a California hotel that got them kicked out! Then she quickly got a new boyfriend another motocross guy named Kyle too.

    Also Ryan is filing for full custody of Bentley because of Maci’s partying and after the hotel getting kicked out incident. He has a new serious gf and he mostly hangs out at the house and has Bentley a lot of the time now so Maci can party and do her touring and publicity stuff.

    I kinda hope Ryan gets full custody. Obviously Bentley needs his mother but Maci is not being a good mother with this info. She needs to stop acting like a kid and a pseudo stuck up celebrity and be a damn mother.

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    Annie
    Posted June 17, 2012 at 7:56 pm

    There were a few things about Amber’s segments that stood out….everyone knows about her RX drug problem. When her preggo-cuz came over she was trying to get Amber to admit to it, saying something like “Youre going to rehab….fooooor….your medication??.(trails off) and it just flew over Amber’s head. Also, when she told the counselor the only thing that helps her with the pain is “good pain medication”. I think Amber’s associating her EMOTIONAL pain with PHYSICAL pain. Hell, it’s easy to get confused, emotional pain is unbearable sometimes….but unless she had a crazy pregnancy and some kind of debilitating illness, I dont see how she’s in THAT much physical pain.
    Maybe from her horrible dermal piercings because DAYUM those look infected. Sad that we all know how this turns out for Amber….oh and she was totally flirting with her Kickboxing guy. Hell, I would too….have you seen Gary lateley?

    Second, I think Farrah’s parental good bye scene was totally staged, I mean Michael just loaded up the couches and was like “OK, Im gone! Bye!” and it was like 6pm. Who does that? Anyway Farrah continues to be a bitch, but her mother is something else. She’s got this strange passive-aggressive Jedi Mind trick going on. She’s whack for sure, but Farrah doesnt handle her very well.

    Catelynn and Tyler….LOVE LOVE. They are so open with their feelings, and share so much with one another, they are wonderful. I do think the open adoption will get harder as the years go on, and sadly I think the adoptive parents will close the book soon.

    maci, she’s awful 100%. Ugh

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    April
    Posted June 18, 2012 at 6:08 am

    I disagree that we don’t know about Amber’s physical pain. I posted earlier that a lot of moms DO have bad physical pain after giving birth. I was one of them. I was a dancer who could do back bends and splits etc so I was in good physical shape at one point of my life. Now I can hardly lift anything or do much. A twin pregnancy where I was put on bedrest so my muscles atrophied and then my spine got all out of whack. Now I have horrible back pain and joint pain. I know a bunch of moms that have gone through the same thing.

    The doctors just prescribe meds and physical therapy. Well new moms don’t get a lot of time to exercise or go to physical therapy appointments. So mostly we just take the pain meds because we have baby/babies to care for and we got shit to do. No time for rest. It is easy to become addicted with that kind of set up. Easy. One of my mom friends was. The doctors are often not very helpful or sympathetic. It is a horrible situation. I know firsthand.

    So I do have some sympathy for Amber if that is what happened to her. Your body sends out that hormone that loosens your spine and pelvis when pregnant for labor but you don’t always get put back together right. She has less support than Farrah or Maci. All she has is Gary’s Mom. Her parents don’t help. Gary was not very helpful at first either. So I would not blame her if she was in physical pain and she got addicted. Now the thing to do was go to rehab and get help. She fucked that up unfortunately.

    Sorry for the long rant, I just don’t like anyone jumping on people when it comes to physical pain. I look fine and healthy, but I am not. I have as much arthritis as an old person claims my doctor. But I look spry. So I get a lot of weird looks when I ask for help lifting stuff or get my meds. You never know what people with chronic pain go through.

    I guess the deciding factor is did she get on the meds for real physical pain or did she just do it to get high?

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    Sugarbush
    Posted June 18, 2012 at 6:52 am

    @April – I totally understand your rant. I’m 31 and appear to be in good physical condition, but I’ve had SI joint dysfunction since I was 25. Anyone who has that knows how incredibly painful and, at times, debilitating it is. But, anyone who doesn’t hasn’t a freaking clue. We’re talking can’t turn over in bed, brush your teeth, use the bathroom, or sneeze/cough/laugh. People who are older than me have no sympathy, because they think I just have no pain tolerance and should “wait until I get older”. Yeah, I tell them that when I am their age, it’s going to really suck since I’m already in more pain than they could tolerate themselves. I grew up with two older brothers, so I’ve learned to take pain really well and can handle a lot. This hip problem is the reason I had to have my son via c-section – I wanted to have all natural with no meds, but it was either do the c-section or not be able to move for an indeterminate amount of time WITH a brand new baby.

    So, if that’s the case, I can definitely sympathize with Amber a bit. I also feel bad for her because clearly she had terrible parents and then there’s Gary who I would have killed back in season 1 (at least he’s a much better father now). But at some point, you’ve got to choose the direction you want your life to go.

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    Annie
    Posted June 18, 2012 at 8:29 am

    @ April…no worries! Im sorry, I guess I didnt really say what I meant to say, I dont think physical pain is anything to just “deal with”, it’s awful and youre right, people can look great on the outside but be huring so much inside. Im sorry for your pain, and I didnt mean to come across as a jerk

    …..but I got the impression when Amber was talking to her counselor they were talking about “emotional pain” and then she brought up the only thing that helps her with that is “good pain medication”. I took it as she’s using heavy duty pain medication to cope with emotional pain. Plus I thought she said she’s been using pills and self-medicating since she was young…14 15 16…which is before she got pregnant. So I just kinda wonder what’s going on with her…

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    Lisa
    Posted June 18, 2012 at 8:36 am

    did no one else but me think that Amber looked high on drugs WHILE she was in rehab?????

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    LindsayBluth
    Posted June 18, 2012 at 9:18 am

    Dang you In Touch! When I give my $3.49 for you, I expect the truth! Not really, but whatever.

    April, I think we are kindred spirits. When this show first started I spent entirely too long googling Maci to see if she went to GPS. She reminded me of all of the snotty little GPS students that I’d encounter when I was in Chattanooga.
    Holla to Mr S-Natch! I probably identify more as a UT Vol, because I’ve always lived here and got my Master’s from UT, but I LOVE Chattanooga. My husband and I are actually considering moving there once we sell the house.

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    April
    Posted June 18, 2012 at 1:07 pm

    No worries Annie. I definitely think it could be either way with Amber. So you may well be right. I kinda was wondering the same thing but then it also crossed my mind she could have gotten bad from the pregnancy pain wise. You would think doctors would figure out a way to help moms with that but they kinda suck at it.

    I think Maci went to Ooletwah high or Hixson High. They both look almost the same and when they showed her high school it was definitely one of those. I went to Hixson. I actually lived across the way from her and Ryan in their first duplex apartment. I did not know about it at the time. It was in Hixson. Now she lives in Ooltewah somewhere in that condo. Ryan lives down the street from my friends in Hixson. My friend was driving by there and saw the MTV truck and almost drove off the road it surprised her so much! Always looks quiet when I drive by there. If it is the same girl, Ryan’s new GF’s parents or something lived near my other friend’s inlaws. LOL that is Chattanooga for you. It is a fairly large city but still has small town attitude because everyone still knows everyone. I think another friend actually did Maci’s hair at one point at her salon. So yeah…stuff gets around.

    I think she started out sweet, but she could have just been hiding it. Either way, she went from being everyone’s favorite teen mom to just being like the rest.

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    Andyourlittledogtoo
    Posted June 18, 2012 at 2:19 pm

    I think Ryan was pretty much over her before they started filming 16+P. She was pregnant, he felt obligated, she was the same controlling shrew she is now but he thought maybe it might be okay and there was a kid to think about but….she simply isn’t worth the drama and the aggravation of being in a relationship with her. Seriously. In her 16+P episode he was so done with her. I know it came off as he wasn’t interested in the baby but he was just checked out of that relationship and phoning it in by that point and they needed to end it. There was a scene in that episode that really struck me at that time when they were coming home from somewhere and Ryan was trying to do something, anything, that would make Maci happy and she just could not be pleased or even be civil. And they weren’t fighting, it was just her ‘go to’ attitude. She comes off to me as one of those women who thinks she should be catered to and fussed over and when she doesn’t get her way she is aggravated and yells and pouts and pulls the break up trigger. I’m not saying I think Ryan was or would be the perfect guy, but I am concentrating on Maci’s general way of dealing with the men in her life that we’ve seen so far and it ain’t pretty. She isn’t yet able to act like a mature adult woman in a relationship with a man and it shows. Now, she was very young and she still is pretty young so that can obviously change as she grows up. But for the time being she is pretty toxic in a relationship and I think, because she is the focus of Teen Mom and the one the producers decided to give the good girl edit to originally (how could they not given the other two parenting teen choices for this edition?) Ryan has gotten the obligatory jerk-edit by MTV when it may not be entirely his doing. And he seems to really be trying at this point.

    So, Maci, to me, is finally getting her proper MTV edit, the one she should have gotten all along. She has never been the golden girl. But compared to Farrah and Amber she positively glowed so that’s the edit they played with her.

    That’s my opinion on it anyway. YMMV

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    sardini
    Posted June 18, 2012 at 2:44 pm

    Ughhhh, the Amber story just breaks my heart. I used to think she was just young and stupid, but she comes from A LOT of pain. I dealt with loss of a child, death, addiction and all that crap when I was younger, and it f-ed me up a little, too. Luckily I was in an all around better situation than Amber and turned out okay…but I understand why it wouldn’t. The good news is that Gary seems to be stepping it up a lot! I feel so absolutely horrible for poor Leah – to the point I can’t even think about it. Hopefully she gets a ton of support, education and everything else it will take for her not to grow up like Amber.

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    April
    Posted June 18, 2012 at 5:13 pm

    Old news, but does everyone know about when Maci hit a parked car at Chatt State and just drove off? There is a youtube video of it. She said MTV told her to just drive off.

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    anniedawg25
    Posted June 18, 2012 at 6:58 pm

    @ April….I could have sworn this incident was from last season. I read somewhere it was the scene where she dropped off Bentley with Ryan in the chatt state parking lot right before Halloween and they were arguing over it. Could have been one of those Internet rumors but I Dunno!

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    April
    Posted June 18, 2012 at 7:50 pm