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She tries to explain to Sophia why she’s sending her packing back to Iowa, which a) I’m sure Sophia totally understands, and b) doesn’t truly get you off the hook for being an asshole. She’s apparently taking bartending classes. She’ll be a horrible bartender. Bartenders are people-people. They know how to interact well with others, whether they’re dry-witted, sweet, or curmudgeonly.
Amber arrives at Gary’s house while Leah is at daycare. Amber does what she does best, which is plop onto the couch and wrap up in a blanket. Gary tells her Leah wouldn’t stop crying last night and Amber says it broke her heart. Not enough, I guess. Gary says that if he gets custody of Leah, then CPS will drop the no-contact order. Hopefully Amber won’t fight this, of course, we all know it doesn’t matter seeing as how she’s currently chilling in the joint with the rest of the Cholas.
Back at the house that manipulation built, Ryan finally calls Maci back. Bentley asks him to come to his birthday party and bring along Dalis. Ryan says he’ll see what he can do, but immediately texts Maci and says that he won’t be there at 6 for the party, but will show at 7 to pick him up. Maci’s an asshole for setting this whole thing up, but Ryan’s an asshole for not dropping whatever hick plans he has to spend time with his son. My God, I hate these two so very much.
Cate and Ty meet up with April to see if she’ll go meet up with Dawn along with Kim. April tells them she hasn’t talked to or written Butch at all since he went back into the clink. They’re all kinda’ done with Butch, which is fine by me. Ty tells April about how Kim’s feeling and that they’re going to have Dawn talk to her. April says she’ll go, but that she feels bad that she was really mean to Dawn before.
Farrah is getting Sophia packed up to go back to her “abusive” parents. Sophia starts jumping up and down on the trampoline and winds up peeing her pants, which made me laugh out loud. I’d probably pee my pants after jumping on a trampoline, too, and I’m basically fully potty trained. She asks Sophia if she’ll need her paci. How about not asking her and just “forgetting to pack it”?
Because Ryan bailed out on the birthday party, his parents decided not to come either. That’s kinda’ silly, but whatever. Maci lies and tells her mom that Ryan told Bentley he was coming, but texted her he wasn’t. He never said he was coming, but he’s still an asshole. Maci says that his mom texted her later and said to just tell Bentley she’ll see him afterwards. That’s nice, Grandma. You can’t call the kid and tell him yourself? Are you really that attached, umbilical-ly, to your son that you can’t go to the birthday party without him?
Maci keeps saying that she’s glad that Bentley’s not asking for Ryan or his other set of grandparents while Kyle’s eyes are rolling in his head like a slot machine.
Gee, I wonder why they broke up?
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I stopped watching the show ages ago but I’ve caught up on the recaps this summer. I hate to say it but it seems like very little has changed.
I want to commend Brandon & Teresa. It can not be easy for them to have Tyler & Catelynn’s pain so
publicly broadcast on tv as well as in those magazines that you can’t avoid at the checkout lines. I don’t think it’s fair to them or Carly.
My cousin C. (another “C”–actually she & Catelynn share the name, only hers is spelled differently) is adopted. We grew up in a relatively small town so of course half the town knew who the birth mother was. She quickly had another daughter with the same babydaddy, and this girl could be my cousin’s twin. My grandmother and I mistook her for C., who was meeting us at the movies. Then C. showed up. It was like a scene from The Parent Trap but much more awkward. My cousin has said for her it would be easier not to know anything about her bio parents. I think she feels resentment towards her bio sister because they chose to keep her. The people who brought her home from the hospital are her real parents as far as she is concerned.
I know her experience and attitude influence me when it comes to Ty & Cate’s situation. I think I identify Brandon & Theresa with my own aunt & uncle so I feel protective of them.
I’m stepping off my soapbox for now. That is all.
Thank you Sugarbush for another great recap (for me it is my nightcap). I am shocked you didn’t mention Debra putting Sopiha’s carseat in the front seat. I rewinded because I thought no I didn’t just see that… And sure enough she was buckling the poor kid in, in the front seat. I thought of you immeditaly. I feel the biggest asshole of this episode goes to Dalis! What an insecure tool, she makes Maci seem confident… Watching Amber is sad, but watching her attempts at packing is funny. I almost woke my sleeping baby with your Cher from Clueless comment.
Did anyone else hear Dalis say “good” when Maci walked away? OMG! She has balls. If Ryan takes her to court all he will get is visitation or joint custody. Court will not solve the drama and he said/she said crap. They would probably get along fine if his family/friends would let it stay between them and not try to jump in the middle of it. They seem like they had worked pretty well together as far as following the schedule set up in mediation. Very little if any drama when exchanging.
And Debra….was she putting a 2 year old toddler in a rear facing infant car seat? Is she a complete idiot?
Yes, I was actually going to mention Dalis’s snotty “good” when Maci walked away. UGH. STAY. OUT. OF. IT. I will continue to say that every time she is on my screen. Who are these women with unwarranted superiority complexes?!
So Ryan was so busy he couldn’t go to Bentley’s party… sitting at his parents’ house whining? Ugh. His girlfriend needs to keep her nose out of anything involving Bentley. She’s not the mom or even the stepmom. Shut.Up.Dalis.
Okay so I was curious about Dalis and found out some info. Dalis is originally from orange county/southern California and only moved to Tennessee two years ago. She’s going to college on a full track scholarship to become a physical therapist. She models, works at hooters, and volunteers at a nursing home because she’s always loved volunteering and helping people according to her. She sounds way to good for Ryan considering he’s 25 with no degree and still trying not to be put in remedial classes. They broke up because of “scheduling difficulties.” I’m sure Ryan’s lack of schedule interfered with her full one.
I don’t think Ryan didn’t go to the party because he was busy but rather that it would be awkward for him with Maci’s friends and family there just like it was last year. I usually like Maci way more than Ryan but she was at fault here. She put the idea into Bentley’s head without consulting everyone to make sure they were okay with it first and then lied about it and played it off like Ryan was at fault like she always does.
I agree with Melli, I don’t think Ryan actually had other important plans, he just does not like to be around Maci. That and he probably realized that Maci set this whole thing in motion and was annoyed with her so he decided not to come on principle. A shitty thing to do when a 2 yr old is involved, he should have sucked it up and gone and then told her not to do it in the future.
That said though, I don’t fault Ryan for not wanting to be around Maci if he can help it. She clearly still wants to be with him and I suspect that if the three of them hung out, Maci would try her best to cause problems between Ryan and Dalis (like that text in Florida saying Ryan would have more fun with Maci). Maci is passive aggressively trying to mark her territory and show Dalis that even if she’s the present gf, Maci and Ryan will end up back together, which is what I think Maci believes, and a scenario Ryan is trying to avoid by keeping these girls apart. Again, Ryan’s first priority should be Bentley but he’s not smart enough to figure out a way to get along with Maci while not pissing off Dalis.
Maci definately was the asshole here though, she is the one who got Bentley’s hopes up to be disappointed (although he didn’t seem to notice that Ryan wasn’t there so the whole thing was kind of moot). You could tell Maci was dying for Bentley to be upset though so she could tell Ryan what a shit father he is. It’s like those exes who know that you don’t want them any more so they’ll try to draw you into a fight just to get some emotional reaction from you.
As a happily divorced (and remarried) mum to a 3 1/2 year old – even though my ex-husband and I get along GREAT for the sake of our daughter – I would never have a) scheduled a “joint” birthday party without HIS input on time/date or b) gotten pissed off if I did and he decided he and his family would do something on their own.
If Maci wanted to have a party with Ryan there – then BOTH parents should have been involved in the time/date/location choice and who was to be invited. Ryan is not a GUEST at his son’s party – he should be the one helping to throw it, and that means Maci needs to have talked to him FIRST.
For our daughter’s 3rd birthday, I had one for her with my side of the family/friends and his family threw one for our daughter. However, I gave him all the details and he chose to come to the birthday party we threw, also. I don’t know if he will come this year or not (likely not, since he has moved 2 hours away and will probably throw her a party there), but as an adult – I’ll let him know.
Bottom line – I think this was Maci’s fault setting up Ryan, and I don’t think Ryan (or his parents) were wrong at all. Better to NOT show up, and know 100% there will not be drama at Bentley’s birthday party, than show up and risk it.
@OhSnap – Comment #3: As for the rear-facing car seat, how big is Sophia? Since car-seats are suppose to be by weight, my daughter was rear-facing until she was almost 3. (Now, the front-seat placement is a whole-nother story.)
Ryan, tell Bentley that you won’t be able to make Pump it up but you will pick him up tomorrow and he will have another party with MiMi. People think that children don’t remember that kind of stuff but they do.
Did Farrah have butt implants too? Her outfit she wore to the airport made it look like she stuck two tennis balls in the rear. Can’t wait to read this but I had to get that thought out of my brain. Carry on.
@classy drunk… exactly! Ryan could have been busy inventing the cure for cancer (HA!) or picking his nose (more likely). All he had to do was tell Bentley, not text Maci, that sorry I’m busy, but will see you later. And then not bring Dalis along for pickup/dropoff. She has no reason to even be around Maci other than to stir the shit.
My ex and I split up when my girls were 2 & 4. When they were little, we always got together for a “family” birthday, at least supper out. There were years I bit my tongue so hard the whole time it bled, but I did it for my kids. These fools don’t seem to realize that it’s about the kids, not them. My kids are 15 & 17 now and still remember and thank us for putting our differences aside to make their birthdays special.
@Mummy, agreed! I’m kindof surprised at the comments about how Ryan should of gone just because Maci made Bentley decide he wanted to have everybody at his party. Whether Ryan had plans or not, she had no right to coach their toddler into calling/inviting everybody and not talk to Ryan directly about it, especially when he asked her what they were gonna do for Bentley’s bday days before. That was yet another attempt by Maci to make Ryan look bad. I can’t stand that manipulative bitch.
@SMH I know right! I was like what the hell is going on with her ass! Are asses supposed to be pointy like that?
@Miz…a friend of mine was telling me that she would have appreciated her parents doing that.
She is now divorced with a 4 and 10 year old and they get together for birthday dinners, Christmas, and various outings. She HATES her ex husband, but she can see how happy her children are to have both of them together some times.
No lie, I am 31 and I still remember a time my dad was supposed to come and get me from my grandmother’s house where I was staying for the summer. I was 4. I sat by the window all day. I kept saying my daddy is coming to get me, my daddy is coming to get me. Finally at about 8, my grandmother said my dad wasn’t coming. I was CRUSHED. It’s a very vivid memory even though I was a youngster.
@Poopsicle, no the problem is once he told Bentley he was going to attend he had an obligation to go.
this recap is hilarious! so far I’m up to page 5 where you said you would take off running after you spoke to your Mother the way Farrah and Amber talk to theirs. that is so true! I can’t believe the way they talk to their parents. It made me remember when my teenage son verbally disagreed with me about something and he was already backing up, about to take off running while he was still talking to me. HA!
@classy. But Ryan didn’t say he would go. He muttered something like I’ll see what I can do.
Dalis & Ryan are broken up now anyway…he cheated on her!
I know people who need or have required anger management and that is so not even close.
We all know someone who has been court ordered to anger management- DEBRA! I think by “special”, Debra and Farrah mean, “complete doormat who will do everything I say without question and take every minute of abuse that I give him, just like Michael!”
Last week I stopped somewhere and they had one of those grabber claw machines and it was filled with nothing but angry orange squishy balls. I just started cracking up.
@classy, he never said he would go, he said he’d see what he could do. Either way Maci should’ve never put Ryan AND Bentley in that position.
@melli LOL Now you’ve got me to wondering if Dalis had been watching the show. And picked their little town to move to on purpose. Hoping to pull a Brooks. I know. I’ve got a suspicious mind.
It’s just where they live doesn’t seem like a place with a lot of modeling work opportunities.
I’d started to think Ryan’s mom was probably Bentley’s best option. But now I’m not so sure.
Last week she was wanting them to have 1 party with Maci and Ryan both there. He didn’t want to. So she said what if you and Maci just do something together with him then. He didn’t want to do that either.
So you’d think she’d go to the party. Whether Ryan did or not. Even though it was sleazy and stupid of Maci to do it like that. Plus she’s not doing any better than Maci about watching what she lets out of her mouth in front of the baby.
I still don’t think Maci wants Ryan for herself though. Or ever did. She just wants him to suffer like she’s got to. Even before her head turned she was like that. She’s never been able to accept that 1)It’s not Ryan’s fault he’s the way he is. And 2)It’s not his fault she decided to try and raise Bentley.
If she’d ever been able to get that through her head. And move on, I bet Kyle would’ve married her and adopted Bentley a long time ago. Ryan’s mom might’ve have a hissy fit. But it”s Maci’s baby. And even Ryan would see the sense. His mom being mad at him
till he knocked somebody else upfor a while. Or being technically on the hook and tied to Maci and a baby for 20 yrs.But instead of thinking about Bentley having a good home and 2 parents. Not to mention Kyle’s feelings. Maci just stays stuck on trying to get her revenge on Ryan. It’s true she went through hell. But it’s not a hell she had to go through. She could’ve stayed at her parent’s house that whole time. And gotten plenty of help and support.
@karen. They are very much together. I follow them onTwitter.
Until I was about 18 years old. “I’ll see what I can do” from my father means “I’m going to make it happen for you.” Some times it didn’t happen but that’s what I thought it meant.
To those of you pointing out the carseat situation with Debra – now I’m pissed. I never noticed it. I’m sure I was probably trying my best to not pay attention since I possibly may hate that family more than the others, which is a LOT of hate. I’m going to have to watch that part again. Did she have Sophia rear-facing in the FRONT seat?! Doesn’t everyone know you can’t face a carseat backward if it’s in the front seat? Argh!
I’m such a nut about this. My mom wouldn’t take the car out of park until we were all buckled in. One time my brother didn’t have enough time to buckle in and my mom started to move them car. She didn’t get two inches down the street before my brother threw himself into the floor board screaming, “I don’t want to die! I don’t want to die!” She was pretty hardcore about it. When I go to the store and I see people in the parking lot pulling out with their kids up running around inside the vehicle, I start fuming and screaming at them as if they a) can hear and, b) give a flying shit. I should start taking pics of them and posting it on some blog so the world can see what shitty parents they are.
OK – sorry. I kinda’ went off there. I inherited my mom’s insanity towards unbuckled children in the car.
No need to apologize for ranting about child safety Sugarbush….
I agree it would be nice to have both parents there but they talked about it before and agreed to to their own thing then Maci changes it and never tells Ryan she lets Bently call and doesnt even do a follow up call or text. It isnt the best for the child if they cannot get along because he will pick up on the tension. Why did she have the party at 6 and Ryan picks him up at 7. I hate maci more and more every episode.She is in no place to talk about Ryan not doing anything all day no work or school because she blows off school for a garage sale in the middle of the week. Farrah I just dont want to waste any time on her and Amber is a full blown b!tch if she cant afford her daughters classes then trade in your car for a cheaper one and get a job. Cat & Ty sorry but I think you have no more story lines
Somebody last week said Catelynn and Tyler shouldn’t be on the show. Because they aren’t parents.
I don’t see it that way. To me they’re the best parents of the lot. Because they’re the only 1s that put their baby 1st.
I’m not bothered by them wanting a gap yr. They’ve been through a lot. And a lot still ahead of them.
@sandra The open adoption’s their story line. And would be even if the show wasn’t ending. Kim and April wanting to see Carly’s just a preview.
I bet Brandon and Teresa’d love for Kim to come with Tyler and Catelynn the next time they all get together. But they’re in a sticky situation. Because there’s just not any nice way to say oh yeah bring Kim. We’ve been wanting to meet her. But April can’t come. And neither can Butch. Even if he’s in between jail sentences that day.
So the only other choice is to say none of the grandparents can ever see the baby.
But that’s going to be how it is. For their whole lives. Starting once they go off to school. And get away from there. What kind of relationship are an educated grown up Catelynn and Tyler ever going to be able to have with April? Much less Butch.
Even April was starting to feel that. Back when Catelynn 1st started talking to counselors and stuff.
If and when they ever go back to visit they’ll stay with Kim. Or in a hotel. And stop by April’s to say hi to her and Catelynn’s little brother. Maybe give her some $. Then once they have kids it’ll get even more awkward.
They’ll want to bring Kim out to stay with them. And spend time with the grandbabies. But they’ll be between the same rock and a hard place like Brandon and Teresa are now. How can they ask Kim to come spend Xmas without hurting April? And or Butch.
Leaving home to go to school is a big step for everybody. But for Tyler and Catelynn it’s going to be bigger. And more of a permanent break. With everything they’ve ever known.
I wonder what they’ll decide about the Carly visit. And how much of it was MTV’s idea in the 1st place. Because much as she wants to see her grandbaby, it seems like Kim would understand how it’d be opening that whole can of worms.
‘I don’t want to die!”
Am I a bad person because I laughed?
@Sheesh – Not at all. It’s something my family gets together and laughs about all the time.
I don’t see why Maci insists on a group birthday party? Why not just let each side do their own thing and that way Bentley gets TWO birthday parties!? Most kids would be all for that. He is going to have to learn one way or another that his families are separate. I was the one that called it would be at Pump It Up. I also called there would be no kids there. It is easy to rent out the whole place so they won’t have to deal with other kids being there or people being lookeyloos. I did a party at this same Pump It Up but I actually put effort into it. I had a dinosaur theme with blow up dinosaurs and party plates and shirts and decorations and custom invites. The girl working there said it was the best party she has seen there to date.
That scene with Leah and Amber made me so sad. That poor little girl. She does love her mommy and it breaks my heart she lost her when Amber went into jail.
I don’t blame Ryan for not coming to the party. You don’t pull out plans last minute on someone and get mad when they don’t show up. I plan my schedule weeks in advance so I can’t make last minute stuff either. Doesn’t make me an asshole. It makes the last minute planners the assholes. He actually asked about the birthday plans last week’s show and she didn’t bring it up then. So he made other plans. Does not make him the bad guy there.
Also I am pretty sure Amber is turning into a hoarder from the state of that room.
I’m a step-mother to an 11 year old and his father and I have been together since he was 5. It’s hard to love a child so much and be told “you are not his mother”… which is true, however I take him to ball games, buy him clothes, check his homework, help with organizations he’s in. His mother and I get along fine. He is the one that benefits or gets hurt. She hates me and talks about me, the child is the one that suffers cause he loves both of us. We will go to movies as a group, birthdays, and random times when he wants to be with both families. My husband and I don’t like a lot of the things his mother does but fighting over it won’t hurt us, only him…. People can be mature, it just takes putting the child first.
Ryan needs to move out or something. Anything. He just needs to get a little bit of a life on his own. I fear he may live at his parents with no job for the rest of his life otherwise.
I havent read the other comments yet but does anyone know what happened with the house when Kyle/Maci broke up? I am so curious about how that blew up. I am quite surprised that Kyle made it this long, like I get the TV thing but man that is a lot to put up with!
Poor Amber. The closer it gets to the end of the season the more I just feel bad for her and the fact that it really doesnt get better for her.
Man Bentley’s party was pathetic. There was not a single kid there. Only like Maci and her parents and Kyle and like 2 other people. We had that party room packed out with 22 kids plus parents. Poor Bentley. I don’t even have MTV money and I did way better than that. I think Maci put more effort into her 21st birthday party. I saw an ad for it and it is at this fancy club and they are making a huge deal out of it.
I hate to agree with Dr. Laura and please don’t stone me but she is against open adoptions and agreements. The adoptive parents are not babysitters. If you decide you cannot care for a child then you need to let the child and his/her PARENTS move on. Not keep coming around making yourself sadder. I like C&T but they need to let go of Carly and allow Brandon and Teresa to raise her as their own. What they are doing is not healthy. Just my opinion.
@April: Well, she’s gotta plan for her appearance on her NEXT reality show, right?
I noticed the car seat in the front as well, but I thought “Noooo, that wasn’t what it looked like.” I didn’t rewind to see it again, though. Also noticed that Farrah’s butt looked very strange in that scene. I thought at the time I was watching it that she got some kind of butt enhancement done.
My heart broke for Leah too, when she was wanting Amber to stay. “No, just wait!” and “I need you!” … how sad! I was so angry at Gary for not getting up off his butt and taking Leah and distracting her so that Amber could get out without all the tears and drama.
@Faye, I understand where you’re headed, but the promise of being able to see her again, albeit infrequently, may have been the one thing that tipped the scale in favor of adoption. And good Lord, dealing with the lingering tie(s) is going to have to be the lesser of two evils in the long run, when compared with Carly not getting to be raised by Brandon and Teresa.
MTV needs to get Cate and Ty some real and intense counseling. As a birthmother I can tell you these two are far from healing. Mine was/is open too, and there is a lot that goes on with that kind of adoption. I feel for both of them and it is truly horrible what they’ve endured from their own family for making a smart choice. They just haven’t figured out that their baby isn’t their baby any longer. Once they let that go and decide they can live with what, if anything, they get from the adoptive parents they will go a long way in healing.
On a snarky note, and I feel awful, but someone needs to keep Cate from putting those flowers in her hair. She’s got a tragically high hair line and it makes her look like she’s balding. Otherwise, love to Cate.
“That’s a real classic anger management situation.” Haha, god. What a dumb comment.
@ StephanieP…..awesome comments, thanks for sharing (birth mother, and Cate’s faux receding hairline) Thanks for sharing your story. My mother was adopted (closed, it was in the 1950s) and I always like to hear other’s experiences with the process.
That said, my mom and dad are divorced, and ever since I was 2 yrs old (I’m now 33) it’s been seperate birthdays, graduations, Christmas, Thanksgivings, etc MY ENTIRE LIFE) and watching Maci and Ryan fight like that actually gave me a bit of anxiety.
I wish to God my parents decided to get along for the sake of my sister and I, but they didn’t….so all the pressure of “Gee I gotta spend exactly 12 hours with my mom on Christmas and 12 with my Dad” and “I dont wanna tell my dad what my mom got me for my birthday cuz he might be hurt” fell totally on our shoulders. It was / is awful. To all the parents on this board who commented they get along with their exes for the kids sake: THANK YOU, they will appreciate it when they are older, trust me.
Back to the snark: yes, what was with Farrah’s ass? Baby got back, geez.
@Stephanie P It’s funny you saying that. Because sweet as it is I’d also been wondering how much of them wanting to be social workers is because that’s all they’ve been living.
So in between their gap yr and having to do their basic classes 1st anyway. Plus the change of scene and life style. They’re both liable to end up with totally different goals.
In the same way I think they’ll get to a different point of view about Carly. Not that they’ll ever love her any less. Or quit keeping up with her. Just that as their own lives fill out, that won’t be the only thing about them. They’ll start turning into other things besides the poster child for adoption. And the world’s favorite teen birth parents.
They’re still just kids. And I know you’d be able to see it better than other people. But even I can tell they haven’t been able to heal up as much as they should’ve in 3 yrs time. Even still living in the same place etc.
As glad as I’ve been they kept them on the show. And all the good it’s done for other kids and their babies. I know they’ve paid a high price for it.
@Stephanie P LOL Catelynn’s cute. She looks just like her grandmama. That’s still cute even as an old lady.
But if there was ever a girl flat out hollering and ugly crying on tv for a makeover it’s her.
1 time she had on this top. Colors she and maybe 3 other white girls in the world could put together next to their face. And not look like flu. But the top itself, print, cut, fit and everything else had an Ultimate Nacho Supreme Fug crown on its head.
I give her props for not spending her $ on boobs and trashy weaves. And specially for not trying to Get the Chelsea Look!
But she might be 1 of those people that’s going to need assisted styling their whole life.
MTV you owe her big time. So before you cut her loose, hook her ass up.
On page two but don’t I love me a big guy…
I read this whilst in a meeting, and I kept having to feign coughing attacks to keep from actually laughing out loud. Thanks for the recap! I’ll miss reading just as much as I’ll miss our teen moms!
I remember reading the calling of the Pump It Up party sans kids a few weeks ago, and thought, surely not. After watching it, maybe they couldn’t get parents to sign the release forms? But that doesn’t make sense, since they showed all the kids at day care. That really sucks for Bentley. Maci used to be my favorite, but she has transformed into quite the manipulator. Ryan is still worse. Come on, a Hooters waitress? Kinda cliche, eh? His mom seems to be the worst of the bunch. Maci’s parents seem somewhat normal. Maybe that’s why they aren’t on as much anymore.
Is Amber still in the pokey? I know she was sentenced to five years, but I didn’t know if that had changed at all. Hopefully she can barter her creepy caterpillar eyelashes for cigarettes.
Farrah is horrible. This is been said already, but if her parents were so horrible and abusive, why did she send Sophia to live with them? Did she send the dog, too?
I actually looked up Dalis and she seemed to good for Ryan. I was really wondering why she was with him! She’s actually a good student and runs track for her college. She also has a fitness blog where she shares her track workouts and eating tips for those who want to workout and be healthy. I mean she works at hooters but I won’t judge that cause I have a friend who works there because she’s also a college student who needs the money and the tips are great.
But yea for someone who is actually in school, working, and doing sports why is she with that low life who lives at home and does nothing with his life?
@classy, “I’ll see what I can do” means “I’m going to do everything in my power make it happen for you.” At least that is what it has meant in my life. At long last I am feeling sorry for Amber(I know shocking), that is a broken CHILD(she is not a woman despite her age) who needs help. My heart is in agony for Leah, while Amber is a fuck up…she does give her more attention to me than Gary.
Farrah is a piece of shit. I have to say with the whole car seat thing, while now my kids are in car seats and whatnot…my family didn’t own a car WITH seat belts until well into the 80′s. My Mom looooooves telling us about how she would lay we infants in the front seat(if she wasn’t in the car with someone) and would just stick her arm out/over when she braked. Even now when in the car with her she still sticks her arm out no matter who is in the front with her. We also have a HUGE family so there would be waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more than 3 of us in the back seat, the coolest would get to sit on the GASP…middle arm rest console in the front seat area.
I use to like Maci, I even thought she was a great mother to Bentley. Now she realize she is a major manipulator which is disgusting. I have no problem with them celebrating Bentley’s together, since Bentley adores both his parents. Maci went about it all wrong, she should have called/sent text to ask Ryan if he would like to stop by/join their birthday party for Bentley…THEN have Bentley make the big boy call to ask his dad(if he said yes).
While I do think the Cate/Tyler story line is old, I appreciate them being here. They are showing future/current teen moms the other option. I also believe they are doing this for older Carly, so Carly can see her parents in a healthy loving relationship and CHOSE to make the right choice for her. All older has to see is Butch and April and she will get the point. Coming from a family with multiple adopted members, I don’t like the open adoption concept at all. You(the birth parent/s) made the noble decision to place your child up for adoption with the idea that said adoptive parents would provide a loving and financially stable home, you didn’t ‘rent’ them out. Let your child grow up in said home with their parents and/or family and you, while it will be hard move on.
The service everyone in my family chose has everything closed until the child is 18, at that point the child can go to the service and request the biological parents information. None of the over 18 family members have used this option and all have no desire(at least that they have discussed) to locate these people. A few have said they thought it would disrespect their parent/s…a set(brother and sister, with different biologicals) said that is like saying my mom wasn’t good enough. As a member of their family I would be offended if they did as well, unless there was a medical condition that they needed a genetic match.
To me open adoptions are like lifetime free babysitting. I understand other people feel differently…I respect that…but damn near half of the kids in my family from my generation(70′s-80′s kids) are adopted and I feel the way I feel.
I am not anti-open adoption. This show is actually what made me see how open adoption can be beneficial. Carly is going to grow up knowing she is loved by her bio parents very much. She is going to know they didn’t give her up because they hated and didn’t want her. She will know it was because they wanted her to have a better life. She is lucky in that respect.
I don’t see them as viewing it renting her out. They totally respect Brandon and Teresa. I feel that the more decent people who love you in your life the better off you are. So open adoption can be a good thing if the boundaries are respected.
There is alot of “special” on this show, but Kye (hilljackian for Kyle) was the only one I was sure to have licked a window or two in his day. Turns out he is the “unspecialist” of the bunch with his making sense and calm rational reasoning. He is a master of miagi mindfuckery. Well played Kye.
I confess, I have briefly contemplated seeking anger management when Debra said Baby Goo, and Maci said ‘La Ewe’ in the same episode.
@KRB-I feel you, Boo. Although I am newer to this situation, I realized very early on in it all that “stepmom” DEF gets the shortest end of the stick. By far. 8 or 9 months into mine and my BF’s relationship, he got full custody of his daughter, with her mother only allowed supervised visits every other weekend. I had hardly ever been around kids in my life and I became a full-time mommy to a kid who turned 2yrs old during her first week in our care. I’d spent enough time with her by this point for her to be just comfortable enough w/ me to let me take on my new role. However, I have never had such a difficult time adjusting to anything in my entire life, and I had many breakdowns in the first few months. Long story short, I work 24-25hr long shifts as a paramedic, which I arrive home from just in time for my BF to go to work, leaving me and his daughter for the day. We are on our way to getting married in the future (BF and I, duh), and we are a family. He helps as much as he can, but I am the main caregiver, AND disciplinarian. I feed, bathe, change, entertain, teach, and love her. I spend every extra dollar I have on her needs, I put her to bed unless i’m at work, I nagged my BF till he started her a college fund, and I have taken the high road by setting my feelings about her mother aside to offer opportunities to meet up with me to see the child on her unscheduled days. I love her like she is my own, but at the end of the day, I am not her mommy. She screams bloody murder every time I have to pry her off of her mom or g’ma when getting her back after her two-day visit, which i’m sure they fill with nothing but activity, fun, candy, and whatever else they can offer her to make their short visits 100% focused on pleasing her. It kills me every time. I try not to let it hurt my feelings, but it does. We are the ones doing the parenting, and babymomma is completely at fault for the existing situation. She chose drugs/booze over her precious, amazing little girl, yet I am the one who must brace myself for the inevitable day to come when she will deliver the classic “WELL, YOU’RE NOT MY MOTHER!” out of anger, and i’ll have to fight back tears, trying to force myself to believe she didn’t mean it. I dread that day, despite the 10-or-so years I have before it happens. Iv’e stepped up to raise her kid cause she can’t, but I will always be 2nd best no matter what. I have to accept that, I guess. If you have any advice, hook me up please. Sounds like you’ve spent the last few years getting it all figured out.
We have seperate parties/holidays and the kid could care less if both sides are together at them.
I want to stab Farrah. So she can’t get some pointless studying done. Come live in my world for a day, bitch. Work a thankless job for 24hrs, then come home to another thankless job for the next 10hrs. How do I do it? I JUST FUCKING DO IT CAUSE A KID HAS TO BE RAISED BY SOMEBODY! Or……how bout…..IT’S NOT ABOUT YOU, AND NEVER WILL BE AGAIN BECAUSE YOU HAVE A CHILD!
Lastly, I’d love to clue ryan in on a little bit of info that I was unaware of till I was involved in a custody battle. Having a full-time job which provides you with enough to support yourself, and a child on your own plays a HUGE role in determining if someone is able to be allowed any kind of primary custody. If Ryan doesn’t have his own residence, including a room for Bentley, along with full-time employment, then he can forget about ever getting any kind of upper-hand on Maci reguarding custody.
Gary is disgusting.
@Annie – Sorry so slow to check back. I’ve been working, yo!
I am sorry yours was such a painful and sadly typical situation of parents being more concerned for themselves than their kids. You made some great comments on how behavior affects kids in divorce scenarios. Wakethehellup, people!
My son just turned 21 last weekend. We are still in contact and talk about parents giving a crap, the adoptive parents and I STILL have a very close relationship and visit/talk often. My son was able to stay with me during summer for short visits and we’ve traveled together several times. I just visited him in San Francisco a week ago and I don’t regret my decision one bit.
Mine is a bit atypical of open adoption, but the open part was something the adoptive parents pushed for more than I really wanted. I knew I needed distance to heal and I did seek counseling and worked at not letting birthmother define me or my future.
Cate and Tyler needs some space, a change of pace and time to deal with their loss separate from each other. I hope they’ll just go to school and not obsess over social work. Maybe they can get to school, get a J-O-B, and get on with the business of living. Let the parents deal with their own bad choices (read: Butch…wow).
Isn’t there a decent support group somewhere in their area? It’s astounding to me that they only sounding boards they have are their own parents and a few token school counselors.
@Kthxbai-loved your comment on the shirt. I believe you’re right on about a stylist being a necessity.
Seasons back when her mother was being such a TOTAL BITCH to her I really felt for Catelyn. That’s a girl who has never been treated well or shown good parent role models. I wish her all the success she can grab and agree that MTV owes her ass big time. Why can’t they pony up a scholarship for her to go school and get out on her own? She’s a bright girl, if a tragic dresser, and if anyone could use a bit of a hand up in life she and Tyler sure could.
Bows should be banned. It’s truly difficult to watch when she’ s donned one of those floral clips.
Gary is a turd of epic proportions.
See? The points made by @Stephanie and @Annie are why I have such a massive problem with Gary. Gary is NOT a good dad (not that Amber’s a good mom – I don’t think she is at all). Why? Because he does whatever he can to keep Amber down. He can hate Amber for all I care, but Amber is the mother of Leah and therefore should receive some sort of moral support. He instigates. He dangles the angry carrot in front of her. He should want her to get better and try to offer her support instead of telling her she’s a terrible mother or that she needs to stop yelling in front of Leah when he clearly drove her to that point on purpose. I almost married a guy like him, but I’m very fortunate I was wise enough to not get pregnant. His shtick was to keep me in my depression and make me feel like I was the cause of every single argument or bad happening. In reality, he did whatever he could to keep my self-esteem negative and manipulate me into believing that I was a nutjob. It all ended when he raised his hand to me in public. In reality, he’s the douchelick who’s only dated girls with my name ever since and even married a woman and had her adopt an American name that is the same name as mine. Fucking weirdo. That’s exactly where Gary will be headed if he and Amber continue after she gets released.
Your ex made his woman changer her name to Sugarbush? Weird.
I keed I keed.
I don’t watch Teen Mom on the regular so I got snippets. I always gave Gary a pass.
Nope…just saw the last epi and that guy is an asshole.
He wants Amber under his thumb. What a jerk!
@Tmurda…all kids are dicks to their parents in one way or another.
She may very well say “You’re not my real mother!”
She may treat you like crap when she becomes a teen. Teenagers should be locked away until they turn 30 IMO.
If you are patient and CONSISTENT it will all work out in the end.
Parenting …the most thankless job there is.
I am not sure about boys, but girls hate their mothers from about 12 until they are 21 or so…
It’s just a natural progression…
Nah, if teenagers were locked away until they were 30 they’d just be overgrown teenagers when they got out. Yikes.
Every now and then my mother still pisses me off (and I her). And I’m 40. It’s just life…
I would have had to curb some serious homicidal tendencies if Debra was my mother.
What i find most irritating about this show is that while all the girls struggle, none of them really seem like they understand what the phuck has happened to them. What I mean by that is it appears they are just lurching from “crisis” to “crisis” and not taking stock of their situation. I think this is in part due to the fact that their frontal lobes are not fully developed and they, with a few exceptions, have been raised by wolves.