She meets up with her friend Erica who inquires about her drama with Ryan. Erica seems to think that it’s either that a) Ryan can’t have what he still wants or, b) Ryan and she can’t be together so he doesn’t want to have any relationship. So, either way, Erica thinks Ryan is still pining over Maci. I think that was the issue before, but I’m sure it’s not the issue now. I think the issue now is with Maci over the fact that Ryan isn’t pining over her anymore. He let her go and that pisses her off.
It’s Leah’s birthday, so Gary and Big Bad Momma have what looks like a redneck yard sale for her. Meanwhile, Amber’s boning the new guy. So, Gary and Amber were going to do Leah’s birthday together after the court date, but Gary is pissed off at Amber dating someone else. His friend thinks this is stupid to have a party with Leah’s mom, just because he’s jealous. Well, at least Gary seems to have gained some better friends. Gary, being the mature one, takes a picture of the party and texts it to Amber. In 5…4…3…2…1…

Amber immediately calls Gary, which is exactly what he wants. She asks him what he’s doing and he tells her he’s throwing a birthday party for their daughter. He tells her she’s the one who fucked things up, because she has a new boyfriend. Amber asks what that has to do with Leah’s birthday and I wonder the same thing. When will these two grow the hell up so they can take care of that little sweetie?
Mike comes down to find out what’s going on and she tells him that Gary’s jealous. You can tell Mike wants to get up and run, but he’s too nice for that. Now she’s realizing that letting Gary have full custody is the wrong thing to do, because he’ll use Leah as a weapon. Too late. You both have been doing that since the day she was born.
Farrah is talking to Sophia who tells her that she’s eating chocolate eggs. Because Farrah has found nothing legitimate (in her own head) to bitch at her mom for, she jumps on her about too much candy. Just because she’s eating candy eggs right now doesn’t mean she’s changed her diet to one of the Cartman family.
Megan, Farrah’s unfortunate classmate, comes over for them to work on a cooking project. I guess Megan grabbed the short straw. Farrah tries to make a cannoli, but it winds up looking like a Twinkie that got stepped on.

Now they’re taking the canolli and turning into a truffle. It’s an ugly little truffle. Just like it’s mother.
Cate and Ty bring Nick home so April can go on a bender. Ty’s acting all “Sugarbush on her menses”, dropping f-bombs all over the place and Cate’s getting onto him for saying it in front of Nick. Seeing as how Nick has grown up with April and Butch, I imagine this isn’t his first rodeo.
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I wish Ryan would push for actual custody in court. He should not be at her whims. I don’t believe like everyone else that it is just his parent’s that want custody. I think Ryan wants his rights established so he does not have to put up with her drama and he does spend quality time with his son.
I mean I don’t know what Maci is bitching about. So what if Ryan’s mom cooks the meals or does the laundry or stuff like that? That is good because that frees Ryan up to be outside riding cars with Bentley instead of doing chores. I would do that myself if I could get away with it. I would love a full time housekeeper and cook and personal assistant so I could just play with my kids.
Ty made me sad. I hate seeing angry Ty. He is normally such a cuddly bear.
I felt bad for Amber. I really hope MTV did not set up Gary to do the whole throwing her a birthday party without Amber and then sending her pictures just to make her have a panic attack. I had a fiance who caused me to have panic attacks and acted much like that and it was rough. I feel her pain. I got out. I wish she did too. At least when the cameras are on, Amber does seem like a loving attentive parent, more so than Gary even. She is depressed and might be on some kind of prescription drugs, but she does love and enjoy playing with her little girl and that shows to me.
I hope Farrah stops yelling at everyone for her daughter’s sake and finds happiness and success and stops singing.
I’ve looooong been wondering why everyone was on Gary, but after last night’s episode, my wife and I turned to each other and said, “oh, that would be why”.
Poor Nick. Can we just set up his bi-weekly counseling sessions now? And Tyler’s anger is a BIG concern.
Why would the law have any rights over who you live with? As for their situation, I thought they had an agreement where Ryan had Bentley like every other weekend or one week a month. But from what the lawyer said, they’re going to go for every other week. Of course, I don’t think Ryan really wants that, he just wants to show Maci that she’s not in charge. Gotta give props to Dalis for calling him out on that one. And by the way, here’s her FB page (http://www.facebook.com/DalisConnellFanPage). Girl’s got a bod.
I’ll miss Farrah’s crying face. Luckily, it also has its own FB page (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Farrahs-ugly-cry-face/160547567300850) with nearly 3,000 likes!
oh yeah and I laughed for like 10 minutes at Ryan wearing that Thomas hat and going “PLAY DOH WHOO HOOO!!!” Best moment of the entire series!
SugarB,You always put so much funny in one little recap that it is hard to decide what I like best. Because he is a giant selfish dickwad, it is hard for me to even watch Gary try to talk around his giant tongue anymore. I agree that he has a sensible hot friend though.
I get that Leah probably loves having a mom that looks like Snuffleupagas, but could someone let Amber know that bang extensions are meant to cover a forehead (like Maci’s), and are not a suitable eyelash alternative.
During the scene that introduced us to Ty’s inner Hulk, did you notice that it looks like someone punched a hole in the wall? Out of nothing but love, I think we should collectively nominate Catelynn for a What Not to Wear makeover. In the “what’s worse” battle of the week, nip vs. dog shit edition, please put me down for nip. Winner should go up against Farrah’s ugly cry face.
Methinks Farrah’s been reading what people on the internet say about her ugly crying thus why she tried to hide it.
Ryan only gets Bentley like every other weekend and one weekday and night if it is not his weekend. So not much time compared to Maci.
You have GOT to be kidding me about Ryan. I’m starting to think you ARE his mother. Maybe we should all have children while never taking on any adult responsibilities! Huzzah!!!!
Are you talking to me Judgy?
Maci is no better. She is also jobless. She has failed out of school like 4 semesters. She parties. How is she any better than Ryan? Oh she lives on her own. Big whoop. She probably lives above her means too since she was living in a pricey condo. I don’t see how that comes off as responsible.
Maybe you are Maci? I won’t get in the Maci is the best mom on the show boat so many people take a ride on. She was good when Bentley was younger. She started getting a big head and thinking she was famous and she went way downhill. The thing is she chose to have and keep Bentley. So her punishing Ryan makes no sense since she was the one that signed up for the job the most being that the woman has all the deciding power on if the baby is born or not. She admitted herself on the finale that is was about punishing Ryan which shows how immature she really is. Her own mother does not even buy her bull. Wish she would stop thinking she knows best and maybe listen to her mother.
Farrah’s a culinary student, and the first thing she picks up to cook with is a big plastic bottle of fake lime juice — in FLORIDA.
I love that she wants her parents out of her business an hour after picking up the daughter they took care of for a month. Oy.
I think it’s really funny that both Gary and Ryan wear those “Affliction” shirts — first because they’re both definitely afflicted with Assholery, and second, because it’s kinda like they were separated at birth and Gary is a foreshadowing of Ryan’s future fat self.
If I’m Maci then so are the other 90% of commentors who have his. number. I don’t see anyone else defending Ryan beyond calling him hot. Did I defend Maci? Nope. I just hate Ryan and his entourage of enablers. I don’t care how you feel about Maci but your support of Ryan is completely nonsensical to me….but I get that’s why people like him get away with acting the way they do.
I don’t think Maci is the greatest mom ever; I think the MTV money started rolling in and the motivation to make any other money went out the window. That’s not a super-smart decision. That being said, I think she’s a WAY better parent than Ryan. Yes, he’s come a long way since we first met him, but that’s not saying a whole lot. It’s like Gary saying he’s lost five pounds – great, but you have a ways to go still. He’s apparently not capable/willing to take care of himself if he’s still living with his parents, so I’m not so sure if he’s capable of taking care of Bentley on his own. His parents do EVERYTHING for him. I have to admit, I understand why Macy’s so petty with him over some things (like the birth certificate debacle) – she’s bitter that she does it all when it comes to taking care of Bentley, and from what we’ve seen, Ryan only does the fun stuff. Are her actions the maturest thing to do? No, but I see where she’s coming from. I’d be a little bitter too.
Thanks for getting the recap up so quickly!! But maybe put a warning on the first page to not eat before reading the rest of the recap – the close up of Gary’s nipple almost made me puke (not the pic of the dog poo)!
*guess that’s why
@april. Someone said something that made a lot of sense to me. And I think u might agree. Maci to
Damn. It send without me finishing. Anyway maci took Bentley 4 hours away before. How do you know she wont do it again. And she calls all the shots. Point being. 50/50 custody is not always about visitation time but about 50/50 decisions and 50/50 rights. And I also don’t see the harm in his parents helping out. I’m 33 with 2 kids and appreciate all the help I can get!
haha Hey Ryan is not Dad of the year or anything. I just don’t like everyone bashing him and then not bashing Maci because they both deserve some bashing and he is not much worse than her in my eyes.
Very well put Lopez Girl. I love how nobody ever brings up how stupid and bad parenting it was to up and move Bentley 2 hours away from his grandparents and father just so Maci could go after a boyfriend. If that is not shitty parenting, I don’t know what is. If I was Ryan I would hate her too and would have established rights that second come hell or high water so she could not do something like that again.
Great recap Sugarbush! I would write more but this episode really doesn’t warrent much. I am much more interested in the Final Reunion Show. That is where the real drama should be at.
Final Thoughts Though:
Farrah still can’t cry right.
Catelynn and Ty are still the best.
Amber and Gary: I just hope Leah end up normal after all of this. She is going to not only hear about it now, but when she is older, and then she is going to see it all over again when she is old enough to watch it on TV or Google her parents. That poor baby.
Maci: I don’t even know what to think of her anymore. I hope her and Ryan’s custody issues get fixed soon. Bentley really is the cutest kid.
I’ve never been to culinary school, but am I the only one that thinks its weird that Farrah’s cooking assignments are all turned in via photograph? Is that normal? She did that with pizza a few seasons ago. Pizza she ‘made’ with Boboli crust.
Maci hit the nail on the head…Ryan gets to do all the fun stuff. I would be ticked, too. That being said, Maci has done some shady stuff (moving hours away and not telling him until the day before). As wishy washy as they are, they need something on paper.
Amber is an idiot if she thinks Gary is going to let her see Leah any time. I’ve always been annoyed by Gary, but I wanted to throw my remote at him last night during the party. What a giant angry orange ass.
Watching Nick cry was sooooooo sad. Where has Ty’s anger been? I don’t remember ever seeing it in the past…
I’m gonna miss these fools!
I think and I know nothing about culinary school so take my opinion for what it is worth haha, that the picture is for the homework assignments just to like prove you did it. Then they probably also have to cook stuff at the school maybe or bring in stuff to be tasted? I mean you can make something look good on a plate all day long, but if it tastes like poop, you can’t cook for shit, am I right?
I felt bad for Farrah’s hired “friends”. Every time they tried to say something she cut them off and started talking about herself. She even did it to her sister. WTF!?
I’m just gonna jump in here to say that I don’t think any of us feel that Maci is innocent or a great mom. I don’t think any of these girls are great moms. Quite the contrary – all the ones that kept their babies are seriously traumatizing their kids. It’s just that it gets old when the females are always expected to take on a minimum of 99.9% child-rearing responsibilities while as long as the male changes 1 diaper in the child’s entire life, he gets a medal. Like @Judgy said, Ryan’s improved a lot, but it’s really not saying much at all. Maci’s a manipulative dipshit, but at least she…oh well. There’s not a lot to defend, but I can’t defend Ryan on anything, either.
the reason why i personally can’t stand maci is that she thinks she so much goddamn better than everyone else. she surrounds herself with friends who blindly follow her and feed her ego. like sugarbush said, it kills her that ryan doesn’t want her anymore. how could anyone not want the great and wonderful maci? AND she thinks she’s a role model to young girls which is so so stupid. i give her credit for graduating high school but the girl has done jack shit since then, how impressive! i’m sorry for this rant, but i’m really glad that i won’t have to be watching maci anymore and i had to let it out. i watched for the other girls but i’ve had enough maci for a lifetime.
What begonia skies said. I just won’t feed her ego.
I will agree that being a Dad is like the special Olympics, you get a medal just for showing up.
With Maci being mad about Ryan just doing the fun stuff and none of the responsibility… I’m a 30 year old married mother of 2, and my husband gets to do mostly the fun stuff and I’m stuck with all the responsibility. That’s the life of a mom, hun. Get over it and stop trying to punish him. Y’all chose this.
Hah, in all fairness it was @katie who said Ryan has come a long way. I can’t stand the kid, so I don’t feel that way. I think the only reason why he wasn’t gone in a hot minute was his mother (who in essence did the right thing, but has gone about it ALL wrong) and the allure of MTV infamy and paychecks, and by default is much more involved now than he would have been by choice. That is why I am more apt to excuse Maci’s poor choices – and I acknowledge she’s had her fair share – because I know that wouldn’t be the case with her.
Plus I hate the coddled majority of my generation and their inability to take responsibility for anything, so speaking positively of that kind of situation is just inane to me.
One of the saddest moments to me was watching Leah blow out her candle with Amber and me thinking…. You are going to miss the at least for the next few years. Sad. Really really sad.
I think there is always going to be a lot to criticize with this group – its a pack of teen moms. Teens make a lot of mistakes – normally, its just a part of growing up and learning to make better judgements in the future from all the mistakes you make at that age. But because they had kids, they’ve had to try and scramble to grow up really fast, but they can’t help but still make the mistakes of teens, so criticizing them is like shooting fish in a barrel – too easy.
Farrah, whose voice alone is enough to make me grit my teeth, really loves Sophia. Its hard for me to admit it, but she makes less mistakes around her than everyone else. Its not a bad trait that she’s always smiling and happy around her baby. Sophia is quite loved. But Farrah’s attitude is so obnoxious I fear she is destined to be a single mom.
Amber, for all she has screwed up, wrenches my heart. She can’t raise Leah. She loves her but if she has custody that kid will be so damaged. Gary is a passive/aggressive asshole who pushes Amber’s buttons, then sits back smugly while everyone watches her go nuts. Leah is the kid I worry about most.
Cate & Ty have the ingredients for a really long-lasting relationship, and its because Ty is a rare gem of a guy who possesses listening skills and admits mistakes. He can actually have a conversation. I would love to hear of them one day getting married and having a baby when the time is right. Good heads on their shoulders.
The whole Maci thing on here just annoys the shit out of me. Maci is definitely making stupid mistakes, but I feel they are mostly the mistakes of a teen – like having Bentley ask Ryan to attend the party. Only a kid would think having the baby ask him would be cute. She doesn’t have the maturity level to understand that this wasn’t cool. She’ll learn this stuff the hard way, but I think she will learn. My impression is she wants to do the right thing for her son Her relationship with Ryan is tough because…he’s a worthless dick. Out of all the guys on this show, he’s the one who spends most of his time trying to figure out how to do stuff just to get back at Maci, not what’s best for Bentley. His parents (father) are constantly lecturing him, which would be fine normally, because he’s young, too, but it goes in the ear and out the ass. He chooses a girlfriend, who, unlike Maci’s mature partner, stirs up crap and eggs him on. Why doesn’t he get off his ass and look for work? And what’s this shit about how his mom should cook so he can have “fun” with Bentley? He already could win a loaf of the year award, yet his life should be made easier? The defense of him here is really disturbing. He’s lazy, stupid and mean-spirited. Yet HE should get custody? Please.
I don’t think most of these kids are bad. Just young. And unfortunately making normal mistakes that take on a different shade because they’re parents.
You all have some pretty good points here. These people are pretty immature and have a lot to learn, but with some of them, I feel they will turn out alright eventually. Out of this group, they are also pretty damn lucky that they have good families that support them- with the exception of Ty and Caitlin. I have a lot of respect for them. Sure, they still have a lot of growing up to do as well, but they didn’t have the luxury of growing up with the things, the advantages, the opportunities, that the other spoiled brats, I mean, kids, did have. Ty and Caitlin are absolutely the most mature and I think they stay strong and keep moving forward. I grew up in a familay similiar to the one Caitlin has grown up in, so I have a lot of empathy for her, but I feel she has what it takes to get out of that situation and not let history repeat itself- same with Ty.
Farrah, I don’t know what to tell you.. She is just so absolutely horrid, and can’t see how ANYONE would ever want to spend 2 minutes with her. She’s totally self-absorbed, major spoiled brat, when she speaks it feels like fingernails on a chalkboard. Can not stand her in the least!! I think I actually feel ill when I see her, it’s that bad.
I used to like Maci a lot. Totally was my favorite and I could relate to her because I could see the love in her eyes and in her actions when it came to Bentley. Bentley kind of reminds me of my own son, who is around the same age, so I really have a soft spot for the adorable little guy. Maci has changed. Maybe it’s the plastic surgery or whatever, but she seems to have changed, BUT I do believe she loves her son to pieces and Bentley should be with her the majority of the time- like 80 percent for her and 20 percent for Ryan. Something along those lines. Maci is a good mom, and is a million times better than Ryan, or his parents. I do think Maci is one of those that will outgrow some of the crap she’s doing now, and her main focus will be on Bentley. You can see how much she loves that little boy, and also how much Kyle loves him too, which is sweet.
Amber. Amber. Amber.. I don’t know what to say. She is stuck in a rut at this point, and now at the mercy of that jerk Gary. I think she shouldn’t have signed any papers giving custody to him because she is now having to beg him to see her daughter and he is going to f*** with her.
I wish them all the best- especially Catelynn and Tyler. They have a good head on their shoulders and I think they actually did the least selfish thing by realizing they couldn’t bring her mom to a decent environment (they didn’t come from the same families as Maci or Farrah for example, so no support system). I think they truly thought of Carly first and foremost and you can tell they love her and will always have her in their heart. They just wanted to give her the kind of life they never had, and couldn’t at this time, given her that kind of life. I feel for them, and want so much for them to succeed.
I guess that’s about it. Sorry for my long post.
Lest I remind you guys that I was told a lovely story about Maci puking in a cab by our awesome cab driver. This was before she was 21 too. So yeah, all kids that age do stuff like that, but not if you are a parent. At that point, you have to give up doing shit like that because if she got busted drinking underage she could end up in jail with Amber and Bentley would be with Ryan 24/7. So for all her talk, she is full of it. She tries to act like a role model and sells herself as that when she goes and gives speeches and writes books, but she is not even close to being a role model. She bitches at Ryan for partying, but she does it too in abundance.
That is why I can’t stand her. Hyp0crites are really high up in my book of loathing. At least Ryan owns who he is.
awesome recap! re: car seats on planes, you actually aren’t allowed to have your baby in a car seat on the plane! don’t ask me why. when my daughter was 1, we flew from chicago to minneapolis & not only did they not let me use my car seat, they also wouldn’t let her sit in her own seat on take-off/landing – they made me hold her in my lap!! it didn’t make any sense to me at all, it wasn’t safe one bit, if something bad had happened she would’ve flown out of my arms! so that’s possibly why debra took the carseat with her, they probably knew about the rule already from past flights, or it’s different for them since farrah is the type of brat to always fly first class.
I’ve always felt kind of a special connection to the girls since the show started right after my own daughter was born. I’m not a teen but I am single so I’ve had some similar struggles that they have. I only watched the first season though & sporadically since .. still, I’ll kind of miss them, tyler & catelynn especially. I really hope they continue to be happy. I used to love maci too but now she just annoys the crap out of me.
I also hope the babies do well … it’d be really interesting if mtv kept up with them occasionally, like did a special once *they’re* teenagers.
Bartender teacher: “what’s a question you should ask a customer”
Farrah: “do you want any garnishes?”
Bartender teacher, to self: “why do i only have 3 students, and 1 of them is a worm?”
haha… give that girl an A… whoever first described her as looking like a worm, had it spot on… she looks like a slug or worm i used to see on Sesame Street.
and i forgot… great recap… loved the nip pic…
What evidence has there been that Ryan owns who he is?
Re: carseats on planes- maybe its up to the airline, because when my son was two, we flew AA and had his bigass heavy carseat on the flight. They let me get on first to install it. I think me and my anxiety disorders would have a helluva time on a flight with no carseat. HURL!
@Smango- I thought the whole picture thing was weird, too. I have a relative who went to culinary school and have known a few others who have gone. They had to make everything at school. One school didn’t even allow leftovers to be taken home. In a previous season she allegedly graduated culinary school, so why is she at it again? You would think someone in their second go at culinary school would know 1- a cannoli is rolled around a tube and 2- fried.
Gary was particularly vile on this episode. I don’t understand why he calls her names for going out with other people when they’ve pretty much agreed it’s over. Then they were holding hands walking into court? Talk about a WTF moment. Anyway, hopefully these people put at least some of their money away for their kid’s sake.
Watching Tyler flip out on the dog and making the small child cry was horribly awkward and painful to watch
I am glad he realized that his anger is a problem and was talking about it…I mean seriously puppies are going to do that until they learn…my dog took 6 painstaking months to potty train and I never once blew up like that…
Anyway, the Leah/Gary/Amber situation is sooo sad. I hope once she gets out of jail she gets her shit together for her and Leah’s sake
Maci and Farrah while they have their (major) flaws do a decent job taking care of their kids and have some support systems…I dont worry about their kids like worry for Leah
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If Ryan really owned who he is he would admit that the push for 50/50 custody is for his parents…not him. I do think he loves Bentley and he has gotten better/more involved. I just don’t think he has the desire to raise his son (discipline him, feed & bathe him, take him to the doctor, etc.). He is good to his little boy but I believe Ryan’s parents are doing all of the “parenting” of Bentley AND Ryan (although, probably not the disciplining Ryan or he would be a different guy).
Ryan does not go around making money off of talking to teenagers about abstinence and safe sex and being a responsible teenager like Maci does while she is living with a guy she is not married to, drinking underage and partying all over the country. That is just a huge WTF for me. You are lecturing and counseling other teenage girls on responsible behavior?! Huh!? It would be great if you got pregnant and then became model citizen to go do those talks and lectures. But, that is not what she did at all.
You can’t be two faced like that. Either do the partying stuff and stop the portraying yourself as an inspiration and role model or actually live up to that role model status. I think Ryan has show us nothing but the true him on camera and off. I at least respect him for that. Maci puts on a show.
And I don’t think Ryan is just doing the custody for his parents sake. Does he want Bentley more? Maybe not. But he does want to ensure Maci can’t pull little stunts like up and moving for no reason out of nowhere to chase a man, or when it was Ryan’s custody day on Bentley’s 2rd birthday Maci just took Bentley anyway to trick or treat even though it was Ryan’s day. She had no right to do either of those things and that does genuinely piss Ryan off and I don’t blame him.
Is it possible that Ryan is going after joint custody so that he doesn’t have to pay child support anymore? ?
There is no way you can defend Ryan, he’s just awful. He’s been a lazy parent from the start. He is always contrary to Maci for the hell of it. And Maci? Wow. She’s a hot mess, and I definitely agree that she thinks she’s hot stuff because she’s on tv, not realizing that the audience is shaking their heads and tsk/tsk’ng her. That move 4 hours away? WRONG. The way she auditioned Kyle to be a fill-in Dad? WRONG. But you cant defend Ryan either. He’s just as repugnant.
And Maci, girl, fix that forehead.
I really just adore Ty and Cat, and I am so heartened that Ty actually realizes he’s not perfect and needed to address his anger issues. Poor kid has a lifetime of hurt bottled up in there and if he doesnt figure it out, he could end up like Butch and self-medicate to dull the pain. Poor guy. Those two will make it, self-awareness does wonders for the soul.
The saddest story here of course is Amber. But she’s a drug user, I think we can all see the signs. It’s not solely Gary’s awfulness, but also Amber’s issues. She needs to right herself, and than MAYBE be a mom to that sweet little pea.
Farrah? Totally clueless, and will be a passive aggressive hag of a Mom. I cringe for that little girl’s teenage years when Farrah sneaks in her closet and tries to wear her cheerleading uniforms. Ew.
@Dawn — regarding your Ryan comments — THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!
And why is it that nearly every time Amber speaks, she’s like slurring her words and acts like she’s loopy. ?. I’ve never been around drugs, but it even looks like to me that she’s on something.
Farrah, Farrah, Farrah — man is she rude to her parents or what?! Okay, the sister Ashley has probably always been called the ugly duckling in the family but she’s a witch too! Man, when Farrah said her parents needed to stay out of her life, I SOOOOO wanted Ashley to say “well then don’t bring your kid here for them to raise!”
Reagirl: I know right? I had this awful vision of Ty like 10 years from now and he was all drugged out. It made me so sad. I really hope that is not his future. It would be so sad.
Meh. I partied underage in college and I still have my shit together. Maci may party (and like I said before, make poor choices of her own), but I do NOT get the vibe that that’s all she does, or that she’s out for number one like I do Farrah. Look, I understand seeing both of their faults and MAYBE siding with one a little more than the other, but you seem to completely hold Ryan on a pedestal and think Maci is scum. That’s just not the case. Your logic makes no sense to me, so I guess there’s no point in any further justifications from either of our sides.
@Lisa– you really think that Farrah’s sister is the ugly duckling of the family? I saw it the other way. I think the sister is a million times prettier than Farrah, and maybe that’s why Farrah is so insecure (or part of it), so does all this stuff to make her feel more attractive (plastic surgery, etc..). When I look at both of their faces (this is even without hearing that awful voice of Farrah’s), I think the sister if really a pretty girl, but Farrah is really not, in my opinion. She wears a lot of make-up, has the big boobs and has a nice body, but her face is not really too attractive in my opinion. I would have thought she would have felt self-conscious growing up because her sister is much prettier than her (Farrah, that is).
Of course, this is not really important, but Farrah does come off with this attitude like she’s some kind of a supermodel, and I guess I just don’t see it at all.
Judgy: I do not hold Ryan on a pedestal. He is a redneck jerk for the most part. Especially early on. He just no longer deserves the rap he currently gets from most people especially when Maci is just as bad. That is all. I partied hardy in college. The difference being I was not a mother! If I was a mother things would have gone much different! I am a mother now and still party when the kids are at the grandparents every now and then, BUT the difference again is that I am legally allowed to drink- Maci was not until like last week! So yeah, I am going to Judgy Wudgy her all day long haha. No hard feelings though.
freakin’ awesome recap Sugarbush. Very hillarious!!! Also, shout out to the 3-1-3 Detroit in that escort model photo cap……word!
My thoughts:
1. Ty and his anger…I thought it was incredibly honest, mature, and accurate that he blames his dad for giving up Carly. Poor Tyler now has self doubts about his own abilities to be a father, cuz his dad was such a shitty one…..hopefully he gets over that feeling quick. Tyler: You’re gonna be a great dad. Also, Nick crying because Tyler was yelling at the dog probably wasn’t because of Tyler per se, but poor child has probably seen and heard so much effed up shit at April and Butch’s house, any yelling immediatley sets him off. If anything, his crying was more telling of April, than Tyler. oh and WHERE THE EFF did they get that pimped out car at the end? Rollin’.
2. Farrah…..good locate on that hookah! and YES about that fake lime juice. WTF? That’s all I can say about her, because she sucks.
3. Maci….again with the anxiety, thanks for making me relive my shitty custody agreement with my own parents, Maci. And, at first when her mom was on screen, I was like “GOOD GOD how much work has she had done? OMG” then I realized I was mixing up Maci’s mom with Leah’s mom (Teen Mom 2)
4. Amber…she seemed really calm while around her new guy, she seems to do well with people who soothe her (him, her friends, counselor at rehab), but she completely loses her mind with the assholes in her life (her mom, Gary). Nick, look at your future……your’e gonna be Amber unless you get some counseling.
@Dani- Farrah is a model. She’s been modeling (as well as taking acting classes) since she was 14 or 15 and it was her coach who found the 16& Pregnant opportunity for her. After teen mom stopped filming Farrah was signed to a modeling agency in LA. She was also a cheerleader through all of high school so I doubt she has any bodily self esteem issues.
Ryan said on his twitter that he never pursued the 50/50 custody. Which proves my point. He really doesn’t want it.
Maci may drink underage, but so does everyone else including teen moms. All the teen moms on mtv certainly do. I certainly did. It’s apart of being young. I don’t judge.
@melli– Wow, it’s hard to believe that Farrah is a model! I never said she had “body issues” though- I do think she has (or had, before the boob job) a very nice body. I just don’t think she is a very pretty (her face) woman, and think her sister is much prettier and maybe growing up she felt insecure about that. Not her body, but her face. Aside from her body (except that awful boob job that makes her look ridiculous), there is nothing attractive about Farrah. Her looks, her personality, her attitude, her intelligence, nothing… So, yeah, she has a nice body- aside from her big old fake boobs- but other than that.. Nothing attractive about her!
@Bumblebee – I think what confuses me the most about the picture is that anyone could have made that. Hell, I could buy food from one of Gordon Ramsay’s restaurants, slap it on a plate, and say I made it. Makes no sense to me.
I don’t think Maci is preaching about abstinence and safe sex, per se, is she? Obviously, everyone knows she practiced neither. It seems like she would be speaking more along the lines of, Hey, look what I did, and if I wasn’t pulling in dough from MTV, my life would be hella hard. Maybe thats just me. And come on, she’s 19. With kid or not, 19 year olds go out and drink. I’m pretty sure she’s not carting Benny into the bar with her, or throwing up on him when she gets home. I’m not defending her, because I think she’s a manipulative twit, but trashing her for doing what 95% of other kids her age are doing is pretty harsh.
Do you think Ty and Cate could become animal hoarders? Maybe they are trying to fill the hole left in their lives by giving up Carly but seeking the unconditional love of many many dogs?
Also do you think they will ever finish college? I think the MTV money is more money that either of them ever thought existed and why do anything while the checks are still rolling in and when someday that money runs out they will get menial jobs and just get by – no judgement there I just think that for now it is a lottery hit and then they will go back to “their old lives”
One more thing – Maci’s Mom 4 President!
Amber is calm around the new boyfriend because he’s new.
So she can control herself when she wants to.
She can see Leah more if she wanted to.
She could finish high fucking school if she wanted to.
She’s just a stupid, tarantulash wearing, zit pierced, wal-mart felon fucking, screaming piece of shit hosebeast.
I can’t stand her carseat covers either.
Somebody much better at internet sleuthing REALLY needs to find out if Farrah had butt implants for me. PLEASE?!?!?!?!? I’ve seen a couple of episodes that her rear end just looks really odd…like she shoved grapefruits in her panties…like not just a big butt but an oddly shaped one. And it really shouldn’t matter but it’s bugging the HECK out of me. Please help me!!!
@SMH- Farrah didn’t get a butt implant. She got her new “baby bum” by working out with a little help from Sophia. She posted a video on youtube of it. Here’s a link.
http://www.wetpaint.com/teen-mom/video/farrah-abraham-shares-workout-video-featuring-baby-sophia
Did anyone else see the Farrah/Gary twitter feud? I’d love for mtv to force Farrah and Amber to film together just to see who would win in the bitch fight that would eventually go down. My money’s on Amber. I’d pay good money to see Amber try and beat the bitch out of Farrah just like she tried to beat the fat out of Gary.
@Melli-thanks for the info. I don’t believe I’ll be doing the workout if that weird bum is the result.
So not that anyone’s asking for my two cents, but I would agree Ryan’s not quite as shitty as everyone seems to make him out to be. I do think he cares about Bentley and taking care of him, and if we’re comparing Maci’s underage drinking to other young girls, I think it’s fair to compare Ryan’s lack of giving a shit about real dad parenting to other dads, especially young dads. Though I certainly agree he SHOULD be doing at least 50% of the real parenting/work. I do wish he’d move out on his own though, good grief. And learn how to speak to people (mostly Maci) like a friggin’ grown up. I entertain the possibility that he never follows through on 50/50 custody because deep down he thinks it’s best for everyone involved, which I believe he has said in the past. Mostly, it’s just difficult for me to think Maci is a victim of Ryan, since she seems to try so hard to stir shit up with him, blame all the drama on him, and convince Bentley Ryan is shitty. I used to respect her so much because even when she really didn’t like it, you could tell she wanted to do what was best for Bentley. Now she seems to want Bentley to agree with her that Ryan sucks. Like the whole “Mimi’s house” (as opposed to daddy’s house) thing, or the fact that she seemed to want Bentley to be upset that Ryan didn’t come to his birthday party, instead of being relieved that he wasn’t. It’s not just that she’s manipulative, it’s that she’s putting Bentley in the middle of it too.
Ryan should also get some credit for lowering his YPE or yawns per episode from a 1:1 yawn to scene ratio to 1:4 yawn to scene ratio.
For the record, I blame Ryan’s parents above all else. Some kids turn out how they do regardless how hard their parents tried, but this is clearly NOT that kind of circumstance. He’s a direct product.
What is so wrong with Ryan’s parents besides letting him continue to live with them? Sure in reality he should also have a job but it is not like he doesn’t have money. He does. MTV money. So maybe as of right now he doesn’t need to work. Maybe he is investing that money well and therefore does not need to work much?
I actually think his Dad has a lot of good things to say and his mother is a little too emotional, but she is a loving mom and grandmother. A lot of parents in that position would be telling Ryan to deny the kid is his when Maci first got preggo instead they were being very supportive. You can tell how much they love Bentley. When my mom is around she helps me change diapers and helps cook and clean, does that mean we suck too then?
If Ryan really wanted 50/50 custody he would have done it…obviously he doesn’t give enough of a shit
It is possible the whole custody thing was just dreamed up by the producers for drama factor and they made Ryan and Maci play along. I mean to me it made sense for him to get some sort of concrete custody arrangement after Maci pulled that stunt on Bentley’s 2nd birthday where she just took him during Ryan’s arranged time and threw a hissy fit. I don’t think it had to be 50/50 just make it so that Maci HAS no choice but to abide by the agreement legally.
Since it has not happened I guess they either worked it out or it was all made up. I think there was fear of a bad custody battle on both sides as well and how that would effect Bentley.
It seems like everything Ryan does is either just to stick it to Maci, or because his parents have told him he should do it. That is what I don’t like about him. Maci is definitely no angel, but I think she’s doing a decent job as a mom. She’s made mistakes of course, and done a lot of things she shouldn’t, but I think there’s potential there. While I don’t doubt that Ryan loves Bentley, I think Ryan is incredibly selfish and puts himself above all else. And I think his mom really eggs him on and says a lot of inappropriate things around Bentley.
Why is everyone (Ryan, his lawyer and his mom) going on about Maci living with Kyle?? Is this not the 21st century? What is the big deal if they’re not married?? The fact that Ryan wants to put a stop to that shows just what his true intentions are. If he really put Bentley’s best interests first, he would want Kyle living there. Regardless of Ryan’s feelings about Maci and Kyle, I don’t think he can argue that Bentley and Kyle have a real bond, and Kyle is a wonderful stepfather figure. So I think the fact that he wants Kyle and Maci to separate really speaks to the fact that he just wants to make Maci’s life miserable.
@April, you don’t see the difference between occasional help from parents and living with them, jobless, as an adult (also known as straight-up enabling)? Le sigh.
Will there be a finale recap?
Let’t see…..Maci also jobless. Only thing she has is that she lives on her own on the MTV money. Ryan is banking his MTV money which is not a bad idea. That or blowing it. Not sure which. Either way I don’t see much difference between them. Ryan could go out and get an apartment today but does that really make a huge difference? Probably not.
and since when Ryan does have Bentley I am sure Mimi and his Dad are going to want to see Bentley so he would probably be bringing him over to Mimi’s house a lot during his time anyway. So Ryan having his own place won’t make a huge difference. Bentley has been moved around enough thanks to Maci at this point that at least Mimi’s house has been a constant.
Pinklotus: I think Ryan uses the Kyle threat just to make sure Maci watches herself. I don’t think he dislikes Kyle or really cares if he is out or not and he has said that before. It is more about, if you try to pull a stunt like on his 2nd birthday again where you steal him during my custody time, then just keep in mind, I could make it where Kyle can’t live with you.
And sorry but it is bad parenting to move in with a guy when you have a child without either being with him a super long time or being married to him. I hear on the news all the freaking time about some stupid chickenhead who let some boyfriend around her kids and while she was in the shower beat the kids to death or shook the baby. I am in a prayer group right now for a friend of a friend that happened to. Its bad judgement!
Okay this is why I give Maci such a hard time. She is very priviledged and lucky compared to other Teen Moms out there in the world. Yet, she complains and whines and makes it like she has it so hard. When other teem moms have less and do better. Maci grew up in a nice middle class home with nice normal supportive parents. She did well in school and graduated. Ryan’s parents are nice middle class and are very supportive. She could have easily got her degree early on. Her parents, Ryan’s parents, Ryan, her friends, sitters or daycare all could have given her time to study and do school and would have helped out watching Bentley. She had support. She just pissed around and partied. It was off camera but there is proof online everywhere if you look. Plus I got a cabbie to tell me all about it firsthand.
Now compare Maci to say Amber. Amber has one terminal parent and both parents were emotionally messed up her whole life over her sister’s death. Maybe on drugs. Not very well off financially. They never helped watch Leah. Only Gary’s mom helped with that. Gary’s mom also not super well off. Amber was not able to finish high school. Amber doesn’t have a gaggle of friends like Maci does.
So Maci just had a cushy life compared to a lot of teen moms and she still whines and pouts. It pisses me off.
I was really hoping for a catch-up w/ Dr. Drew recap! Will there be one?
Yes me too!
@April I’m terribly pissed off with Maci, She started off well with Bentley and everyone got to see what a loser Ryan was in regards to raising an infant. I don’t think Ryan is banking his money I think he is spending it in ways we the viewers can’t see i.e.off road vehicles. I think they both are horrible and think that the only ‘good’ person in his life is Kyle. NO ONE can say that Bentley is not a spoiled well loved child, but at this point in time the one that appears to love him without added drama is Kyle. I don’t think Ryan doesn’t love his child(I believe with all my heart he does)…he is simply a teenager.very young adult who makes crappy decisions like a normal teen/young adult.
@April- the thing I don’t get is when someone makes a negative comment about Ryan, you immediately counter with how terrible Maci is when that’s not even what it’s about – I don’t see anyone defending her just because they don’t like him. Dislike them both, fine, but don’t act like he’s fabulous and she’s the one that solely sucks. That doesn’t make any sense. Unless you are Mimi in real life.
@JudgyW, I’ve been thinking the same thing in regards to April’s point -blank hatred for Maci.
Whatever. I really dislike Maci. So I don’t particularly like hearing anything positive about her. Especially when I can provide examples that whatever positive thing it is they are saying, is not true.
I mean how can anyone defend her? She moved Bentley yet again out of the house they bought. That little boy has moved houses like 6 times in 4 years. That is absurd. Also did you catch on the Dr. Drew episode how she said she is away at least once a week giving a speech? Sounds like Kate Gosselin to me. She did the same thing. Acted like she was always being mommy 24/7, when really she was gone a lot doing publicity and speech things. And just like I thought, Ryan doesn’t really want more time, he just wants to make it so Maci can’t just do what she wants as far as moving away, taking Bentley during Ryan’s time, etc all crimes she did commit.
Ryan is about a good a parent as Maci. I like him better though because at least he does not try to present himself as this perfect teen super mom. Maci does and it irritates the shit out of me that most people buy into it. She doesn’t have me fooled.
1. I moved constantly as a child. I’m just fine with a great outgoing personality.
2. My mother’s travel for work. So now she’s not a good mother because she travels once a week for speaking engagements?
Are these the examples that you are providing?!?!?!
So you mean to tell me there’s NOTHING positive about Maci. You could counter EVERY positive thing someone said about her?!?!?
I mean I HATE Evelyn Lozada (as I have pointed out numerous times on this site), but there positive things about the lady. I just don’t like the lady.
I am concerned for you April. Just like I am concern about who ever has that whole blog about the Gorgas someone posted over on one of the RHONJ recaps.
Right…….
Let’s see do I really need to list every one of Maci’s trangressions? How about stealing Bentley on Ryan’s custody day because she freaking felt like it even though she would not let Ryan have Bentley on her custody day? I hate hypocrites.
What about moving in with a guy you are not married to and have only been dating a couple months? Or moving to be with a guy you just started dating? Or that Bentley has ZERO friends his age? She never hangs out with any other moms or encourages any friendships for him. He had NO kids at his birthday party. That is just freaking sad. She also goes to the most expensive salon in Chattanooga. Thanks for saving that money for Bentley. She also pukes in cabs when she is not even legal to drink yet according to my first hand account from the talkative cab driver I met.
Sorry but she straight up sucks. Is she better than Farrah or Amber? Yeah. But, that is not saying much. She is by no means even remotely close to mother of the year. She has a shit ton of room for improvement.
Dear Ryan’s Mom,
We get it you hate Maci. Please shut up now.
Sincerely Moli
@ April, you mean the guy she’s still with. You is a stable male figure in his life.
Gasp a 20 year old over indulges…it happens to the best mothers.
Do better Ryan’s mom…oops April.
*who is a stable male figure in his life.
Seriously? I have been posting on this site for almost a year now on multiple shows. I can’t tell if you are being serious or just trying to be snarky?
She is not still with Kyle either. I think they got back together recently but that was after breaking up and moving Bentley yet again and living with girlfriends and jumping into another relationship with Kyle Regal.
Again hypocrite of the year goes to Maci. She claims she broke up with Kyle because he cheated on her by talking to other girls on facebook. Yet she also on the same show admits she texts Ryan saying flirty things like “You would have a better time with me.” During their vacation to Florida. I never got kicked out a hotel for being a disturbance (the night Kyle and her broke up) when I was in my 20s. In fact, I have never been kicked out of anywhere ever now that I think about it.