The Walking Dead Recap: When the Zombies are a’Knockin,’ Don’t Go a’Rockin’

The Walking Dead

By Pillania | Monday, November 26, 2012 | 8:30 pm | 50 Comments
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Rick gets a little rough and persistent about wanting some more info. He goes so far as to grab her recent gunshot wound. Why does it seem like Rick is always an impatient douche when the situation requires some finessing, and always a milquetoast when action needs to be immediately taken? Perhaps I am alone in this, but I wish Shane were still around. Not balls-to-the-walls-crazy Shane, but the Shane that was a tiny bit crazy was a person who knew how to survive in an apocalyptic world. Also I think he and Michonne would have made a kick-ass team.

Daryl pipes in, raising his crossbow to her.

Which Woodbury resident am I related to? Give you one guess!

Losing interest, Michonne tells these asshats to find their friends themselves. Rick, who as usual is behind the 8 ball, gets a clue and says she clearly came for a reason, so speak up if you please. She briefly explains Woodbury and its 75-ish residents, and how she thinks Glenn and Maggie were taken there. She said it’s run by a “pretty boy, charming, Jim Jones type.” For those not in the know (present company exluded….ahem), I’ve taken the liberty of googling Jim Jones – “the founder and leader of the Peoples Temple, best known for the mass suicide in 1978 of 914 of its members in Jonestown, Guyana, and the murder of five individuals at a nearby airstrip. Over 200 children were murdered at Jonestown, almost all of them by cyanide poisoning” (via Wikipedia).

She refers to the residents as para-military wannabes with armed sentries on every wall, but she’s confident they could slip in undetected. And, hello, she knew where to find them because Glenn/Maggie mentioned a prison, and unlike some people (*cough*Rick) she can put 2 and 2 together. This chick had walkers trained to do her heavy lifting, I think she can successfully find a gigantic (and presumably only) prison for miles.

Rick introduces Hershel, whom I happened to love even as I was dying of boredom watching those first few farm episodes from season two. I watched them marathon-style, which I imagine was an easier way to plow through them than watching as they aired weekly. Hershel will get her all patched up.

Back to the Others, Merle tells Glenn he’s much tougher than he remembered. Merle figures “Officer Friendly” would’ve abandoned Glenn by now. In between drooling blood, Glenn says they’ll be coming for him soon, and there are LOTS OF THEM EN ROUTE.

We’ve got a newborn, an amputee, a woman whose hair hasn’t grown a millimeter in three seasons, and a nine-year-old…proceed at your own risk.

Glenn also says they’ve got Shane, Dale, Jim (who? a character kill in episode 4, evidently), and Andrea. This makes Merle perk up cause now he knows Glenn isn’t being totes honest. Glenn seems unnerved by Merle’s reaction to his laundry list of people “on the way,” and uhh yeah, you should be.

Back to my girl crush and the gang at the prison. Btw when are we getting her back story? She thanks Hersh for patching her up. New Scooby gang member Oscar wants to know if they can even trust her. Ummmmmmmm how do we know we can trust YOU???

Next thing you know, they’re packing up the car, ready to lay siege on Woodbury. HUH??????? Rick takes Carl aside and ZZZzzzzzZZzzzZzzZZZZZZ can I care less about this family dynamic? Rick thanks his 10-ish year old for manning up and murdering his zombified mom. If something happens, Rick wants Carl to keep everyone safe. Pardon me, but I’d rather take orders from my own ass.

Rick tells Carl to keep an eye on the new baby and, oh yeah, she is still going by “Ass Kicker.” Charming as that may be, they settle on Judith, AKA Carl’s former third grade teacher, for a name. Maybe it would be too painful to choose Sophia or Lori, but Judith? No offense to people named Judith, but it’s just one of those names that immediately brings to mind an older demographic. Like how it’s hard to picture a baby Ruth. Unless it’s a Baby Ruth candy bar, which is a different story entirely.

Now, what Rick’s crew lacks in manpower/weaponry they make up for with savvy, slyness, and superior survivor skills (how’s that for alliteration?!). But am I the only one who found it rather foolhardy (I’ve been wanting to use that word in context for like 3 months) to leave the prison in the care of Carol, Judith Light, Hershel, and a troublemaking tween? Without even strategizing for, like, an hour or two? Or getting more information from Michonne about what’s been going on over there? This made no sense. For people who spent half a season waiting to peek into a barn, they’re moving faster than Andrea on a first date now.

The Gov. brings Andrea to Mr. Coleman, an elderly man who doesn’t seem to be doing so hot. He’s hanging out with Milton, the weird doctor/scientist/faker, surrounded by pictures of beaches and palm trees. Before taking leave, Gov. thanks Mr. Coleman for his service and how much you wanna bet there is more to this than meets the eye?

Milton plays some bowl-instrument thing and tells Andrea to re-play the song on the record player. Mr. Coleman is instructed to raise his right hand if the following statement is true:

 

You’ve slept with Andrea.

The rest of the statements are some general stuff about his name, children’s names, and wife’s name. Standard lie detector baseline stuff (not that I’d know). We’re led to believe Mr. Coleman, who is quite ill, has “offered” his body in the name of research when he passes. He whispers something to Milton, which Milt claims is to keep replaying the song. I’m more certain it was along the lines of “get me the eff out of here.”

Back in Glenn’s makeshift cell, Merle returns with a walker. He wants Glenn to imagine how he felt on the roof with his hand tied down. This would have been more awesome if the walker was really Daryl in disguise come to bust Glenn out and give Merle a beatdown for good measure. The way Glenn handles this walker is pretty sweet. Glenn kicks him around a little, eventually breaks the chair he’s duct taped to against a stone wall, and semi-frees his hands. He drives the leg of the chair into the walker’s head. And yes, it’s as easy as it sounds.

Also: Kids, when an adult tells you to brush your teeth, they actually mean it, and not in a “your face will freeze like that” kind of way. 

Milton explains that after Mr. Coleman passes, they’ll restrain him, ask the questions again, and record his responses. Andrea will need to end his reanimated state. Why her? I guess to keep her occupied all day so she doesn’t find out about Woodbury’s newest residents. Not that she’d be doing any Nancy Drewing anyway, unless Nancy Drewing = sleeping with contemptible would-be politicians.

Milton wants to see if trace memory and human consciousness exist after walker transformation. Andrea is like, clearly you have no idea what you speak of. They’ve done the question thing so many times, Milton is hoping the routine will linger in Mr. Coleman’s mind. If something does linger in walkers’ minds (and I find that possibility very intriguing), maybe it’s memories that are more personally significant than answering the same stupid questions ad nauseam.

Milton’s never seen anyone transform, due to some bullshit about being an orphan and “telecommuting” to work. That is shady as hell. He probably worked for the group responsible for developing this virus.

Poor Mr. Coleman passes, and they restrain him. Governor Asshole has learned Glenn and Maggie know Andrea. Gov. is not happy they also seem to know Merle’s brother. They agree they need to keep Glenn alive to use as leverage should the group try to retrieve him, but Merle says he tried to kill him cause he was pissed. Say what you will about Merle’s tactics, but I was instantly creeped out when the Gov. said he’d question Maggie himself.

What follows is an extremely uncomfortable scene where it appears Maggie is going to be sexually assaulted by this piece of shit. When she won’t give up any intel, he makes her strip from the waist up and hovers behind her as though he is going to rape her. He stops before going through with it; perhaps it was because Maggie telling him to “do whatever you’re going to do, and go to hell” makes him lose his sense of power/control. Whatever the reason, I am glad this poor girl did not have to endure a sexual assault. No one deserves that, and to say these people have been through enough is the understatement of the year.

Rick’s crew stops their car a mile or so from Woodbury. Michonne says they’re better off on foot. Two questions before we proceed: 1. Why hasn’t Michonne revealed to the Scoobies she knows Andrew? From what I gather, Andrea didn’t STFU for the 8 months the two of them spent together. Surely she must have given Michonne enough info for her to realize this is Andrea’s crew. 2. Where is Axel, the other random prisoner who recently joined the group, who claimed he’d be joining them on this mission?

OF COURSE, the group is instantly surrounded by walkers. Omg, can’t they ever just get somewhere?! Why must there always be a problem?! They kill walkers so frequently and with such ease now, it’s like they’re more of an inconvenience than anything. The other humans over in the ‘Bury currently pose the far bigger threat.

They find a not-conveniently-placed-at-all cabin to take quick refuge in, but of course it’s surrounded by dozens of walkers in .02 seconds. They discover a hermit man hiding under some covers? Saying he’ll call the cops? Writers: are you serious? This was the most ridiculous plot point of the last two episodes. Michonne steps up and kills this rando. They feed him to the walkers and sneak out the back door.

 

Larry! Save some intestine for the rest of us!

Christ, Marge eats like a pig. No class.

Mr. Coleman begins to reanimate. As Milton goes through his Q&A procedure, he insists the old dude is trying to raise his hand as per the instructions, but can’t because of the restraints. In his infinite wisdom, Milton uncuffs him and SPOILER! the zombie goes straight for the throat. Andrea kills him.

I do kind of wish they had Mr. Coleman respond a bit differently. This would have taken the show down an interesting path and would make for far greater plot points than the inevitable “how will we deal with taking care of a baby during an apocalypse” storyline.

Merle, a random, and Gov. Shitbrick bring a topless Maggie to Glenn’s holding room. They’re through with games, so someone better talk. As soon as they put a gun to Glenn’s head, Maggie spills about the prison. Couldn’t she have lied and made up a story about her dad’s farm instead?! She tells them a group of 10 cleared the whole prison. Gov. Trying to Overcompensate for His Small Manhood is skeptical, but YES BITCH THAT’S ACTUALLY TRUE AND NOW THEY’RE COMING FOR YOUR ASS WITH *****!!!!BONUS!!!!****** YOUR SOON-TO-BE-WORST-NIGHTMARE MICHONNE. Andddd scene.

At some pow-wow of douchebaggery being held later that evening, Milton insists 10 people could not have taken that prison. Well, Milty, you really haven’t learned to adapt to the current sitatution but there are others out there who – even when outnumbered 600 to 1 – can take out walkers with perfect headshots every.single.time.

Gov. Pond Scum is pissed because taking the prison means:

a. the group is actually huge and therefore a huge threats

b. the group has done something his right-hand man (LOL. too soon?) Merle had assured him cannot be done

c. whatever. Hopefully Maggie goes all Lisbeth Salander on this asshole in the near, near future

Gov. Hope You Get a Zombie STD wants to know where Merle’s loyalties lie. I am hoping that when it comes down to it, Merle will ultimately see the light and help his old crew. Wishful thinking?

This is all happening right as Rick and the Rickettes are about to lay siege on Woodbury. A Woodbury group is going to scout the prison. I hope they get stopped by the Rickettes before leaving Woodbury proper, because I’m not too confident in the manpower Rick left behind. 

The episode ends with Andrea walking right past the barrier her friends are lying in wait behind. She goes to see her stank-ass boyfriend who goes back into snake-oil salesman mode.

Andrea, you ignorant sloot.

Will open her eyes for long enough find out what’s really going on? Will she sell out her friends? What did you all think? Thanks for reading and hope to see you in the comments!!! Please try to refrain from posting any spoilers from the books :)

Happy [En]Trails,

Pillania

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50 Comments

  1. 1
    Lurker
    Posted November 27, 2012 at 12:07 am

    YAY! I am so excited to see a recap up. It has been a few weeks. Ok, off to read it right now!

  2. 2
    Nikki
    Posted November 27, 2012 at 12:34 am

    Great recap! Thanks, Pillania! I’ve missed the last 4 episodes due to work, so this is a treat!

  3. 3
    itchy itchy
    Posted November 27, 2012 at 1:07 am

    Well, before I post my usual litany of complaints about this show, I have to say that this season has been great so far and definitely makes up for the snoozefest of season 2. Most of the greatness for this season goes to the excellent special FX and makeup work. And it’s nice that they’ve cut the chit-chat to a minimum.

    I’m cutting the writers some slack over Carol, since the walkers seem especially attracted by noise (which she wouldn’t make being passed out and all) and there was a dead walker passed out in front of the door providing some camouflage.

    On the other hand – they clearly showed some brunette bimbo in the guv’nor’s bed in an earlier episode. What happened to her? She was younger and much less rode-hard-put-away-wet than Andrea.

    And I was thinking the same thing about Michonne recognizing the Grimes gang as Andrea’s old group. You’d think she’d at least let them know? No?

    As for the Jim Jones thing — it was a mass suicide, which is not technically murder. Wikipedia. Sigh. But we can’t know if the townspeople in Woodbury are really under the guv’nor’s spell. All we know about them is that they tend to wander aimlessly all day on the town’s one street. Kind of like zombies. Huh.

    Also I was disappointed Maggie didn’t assault the guv’nor — she could have easily jabbed him in the eyes with her fingers, for example. Surviving the winter turned Glen into a badass, why not her too?

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    CattyFan cattyfan
    Posted November 27, 2012 at 7:17 am

    We certainly have ventured far from season one’s, “We don’t kill the living,” haven’t we.

    I can understand Michonne not giving up her info. It’s a bargaining chip. She knows Daryl is Merle’s brother (she would have heard that as it was just after Maggie and Glenn mentioned the prison that Merle arrived and began asking Glenn about his brother,) and Merle tried to kill her. She knows this is Andrea’s group, but doesn’t know if they tried to find Andrea or left her for dead. She’s still trying to gauge what kind of people these are. It’s smart to say nothing.

    It might be the Zombie Apocalypse, but Andrea managed to find a clean, lacy, white thong to wear. Isn’t that nice.

    Meanwhile Governor Phillip is easing Andrea into being a part of Woodbury by giving her everything she thinks she needs: sex with him, and the excitement of killing a walker or two (which she said she has enjoyed.) It’s all to make her loyal and manageable.

    Best part of the episode: right after the crazy hermit was disemboweled, the show cut to, “The Walking Dead…brought to you by KFC.”

    My guess is Daryl will have to kill Merle when Merle threatens Judith or Carol. That would provide the most angst.

    Pillania…I enjoyed you recap, especially your enthusiasm. However, where else, if not in your mouth, would you be throwing up?

  5. 5
    Mimo
    Posted November 27, 2012 at 7:28 am

    Oh Thank You. A recap. That thanks mostly comes from my husband, who is sick of being the recipient of my babble about this show.

    A few points – Pharmaceutical prisioner volunteered to go with, but they left him behind. I assume because he would be useless in a real fight. He’s the one who closed the gate after them.

    @ itchy I think they refer to the Jim Jones thing as murder so often because so many of the dead were children. Is a 2 year old capable of the thought process of suicide? I am with you on wondering why Maggie didn’t at least attempt to fight the guv. I think she did acquire some bad ass during the winter as evidenced by the fact that she was one of the ones that went in to clear the prision.

    Funny how the mind can anticipate something happening and then it becomes part of your reality. I was sure that Glenn had been the one to first \spill the beans\ about the prison and then Maggie jumped in with additional information so the whole burden of \cracking\ wouldn’t be all on Glenn. My husband told me I was wrong, but I wouldn’t accept it until I saw it in the recap.

    So – where do you think Andrea’s loyalties will fall? Hers is actually three prong – the group, Michonne, or the guv. I have no doubt that Merle’s won’t change. Would be nice to have a little redemption there, but I think Daryl is going to have to kill him.

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    plockeness monster plockeness monster
    Posted November 27, 2012 at 7:50 am

    I am going to have to disagree about Carl. I think he is pretty awesome now. I don’t think writers had a choice, as there was soooooo much Lori/Carl hate last season. Carl is actually contributing to the group rather than being a distraction. I loved the convo between him and Rick and I love that he “tattled” on Darryl. I do agree about the name Judith. Gag.

    So glad Carol lived!! I realllllllly want her and Darryl to get it on. To me, she has been like a second mom to Carl. You could see the love and respect she had for their fam when she apologized to Rick about Lori’s death.

    Pillania – I was wondering the same thing about Axel! He clearly volunteered to go to Woodbury.

    I don’t think Michonne has said anything to Rick and Co. about Andrea, because Andrea has clearly stated she thinks they abandoned her on the farm. Michonne obviously has trust issues – she was w/ Andrea for 8 months and never told her the story behind her zombie “pets,” so I don’t think it’s a stretch for M to keep quite for now.

    Loved the big prisoners reaction to the sacrifice of the dude in the cabin. Prisoner still has no idea what it’s like in the “real world.”

    FYI – There is a really good documentary on Netflix about Jim Jones and Jonestown.

  7. 7
    plockeness monster plockeness monster
    Posted November 27, 2012 at 7:55 am

    And I don’t like the previews for next week showing Maggie and Glen kneeling together in that room. No one is safe on this show but Rick.

    Catty – I thought the same thing about the KFC commercial!!!!!!!!!!

  8. 8
    itchy itchy
    Posted November 27, 2012 at 8:38 am

    Ah, didn’t remember there were kids involved. I just remember seeing pictures of their bloated bodies.

    I thought Andrea had said she’d been split up from the rest of the group, but that she didn’t blame them for coming to find her? At any rate, she went off with Michonne instead of waiting around to join up with the others. She’s still a miserable character/actress — but I’m going to guess she finally figures out what a loony tunes the guv’nor and that will help her shift her loyalty back to the group.

    For me, the thing about Axel was just to show that his loyalty has shifted to the group — which is why it’s safe to leave him behind. Also, I’m really looking forward to seeing him tune up Darryl’s bike for some reason.

    And I agree with Plockeness, now that Lori is gone, Carl’s a much better character. It’d be much worse if he were like the fat kid on Modern Family. Grrr.

    Also, FWIW, my mom’s name is Judith. She’s 80.

  9. 9
    plockeness monster plockeness monster
    Posted November 27, 2012 at 9:32 am

    I don’t think ever said she blamed the group, to me it was just implied. Every time she talked about it, it seemed like she had a chip on her shoulder. And her and Merle bonded over it.

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    lindaw205
    Posted November 27, 2012 at 9:33 am

    I’m enjoying Carl a lot this season, too. Maybe it’s because he shot his mom in the head.

    I thought the scene between Carol and Rick was very touching and though the actors were great. Andrew Lincoln in particular has really brought it this season. Of course, they’ve all had better material to work with.

    I’m loving this season for the most part but I’m getting kinda tired of Michonne’s limited range of emotions and facial expressions. Don’t know if it’s the actress’s choices or the writers but she seems to have gone to the Sylvester Stallone via Rambo school of acting. Please, Michonne, do something besides glower and barely speak. The character has so much potential.

    And Andrea. Thongs? Really?

  11. 11
    juddfan juddfan
    Posted November 27, 2012 at 11:19 am

    @Pillania, thanks for stepping in, great recap!!!

    I still love this show, despite the flaws. I think Michonne is bad ass, and her silence is part of her character. She must trust them a little to be heading back on a rescue mission with them. Didn’t she take out 8, or 9 guys that chased her .. . . I’m hoping epic-ness is coming!!!

    I’m glad Carol survived too! I don’t hate Andrea as much as everyone else, I always go for dangerous assholes myself, so who am I to judge!

    Talking Dead had an extended scene from next week, it can’t end well, it just can’t!

    anyone see \The Mist\, the Steven King one? Carol, Andrea, the old guy who got gutted last season, and maybe even more actors from this show were all in it . . . makes me wonder if they have a producer, or casting director in common.

  12. 12
    Miss Molly
    Posted November 27, 2012 at 11:25 am

    Thank you lindaw205 for mentioning Michonne’s same puss face week after week.
    If Carl kills Andrea it complete the Terrible Trifecta (Shane/Lori/Andrea).

  13. 13
    Pyper
    Posted November 27, 2012 at 12:12 pm

    @Juddfan… The Mist was just on over the weekend, and I noticed the same thing with Andrea/Carole and the geez…
    Frank Darabont did both the Mist and Walking dead, wonder if Laurie Holden thought he was the guv’na

  14. 14
    juddfan juddfan
    Posted November 27, 2012 at 12:20 pm

    @Pyper, very dark movie, right!? Not a happy ending fer sure!!!

    and that makes sense that it was Frank Darabont . . .who oddly has no more involvement in this, right?

  15. 15
    Pyper
    Posted November 27, 2012 at 12:48 pm

    @Judd…
    The ending was just so tragic.. if only he waited another 5 minutes… I am not sure about Darabont and if he is still even involved with WD… I just love me this show

  16. 16
    yeknom
    Posted November 27, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    @cattyfan I thought the same thing about Michonne. And Andrea’s thong! lol

    @Plockness I am really hoping for some quick thinking that can save Maggie and Glenn. I like both of them and really hope neither one gets killed off yet.

    Andrea…..ugh. She comes off as very selfish…..like she expects everyone to do for her without her having to do for them. That’s why it was easy for her to let Michonne leave and why she seems to have a chip on her shoulder all the time. I really have no problem with her becoming zombie chow.

    I’m glad Carol lived. It made T-Dog’s sacrifice a little more worthy (even if he was going to have to be shot anyway). Also she’s much less useless than before.

    I also like Carl more now too.

    I can’t wait for the Daryl/Merle showdown. I love Daryl.

  17. 17
    TallGirl
    Posted November 27, 2012 at 1:50 pm

    What do you want to bet that Merle terrorized his younger brother after their mother went up in smoke (literally)? Darryl may have been acting out of loyalty more than anything else when he was first missing. He may have wanted to know if he were really dead and couldn’t come back to lord over him. He’s probably gotten more respect and feeling of belonging from Rick, Carole, and the rest of the group than he ever did fro Merle.
    I see Merle getting a – thwonk!!! – arrow through the head.

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    itchy itchy
    Posted November 27, 2012 at 2:02 pm

    Funny, but I wasn’t bothered by the thong so much. And part of me enjoyed the skeevy ‘take off your shirt’ scene.

    Even though there was no reason for her to take off her shirt, was there? Why didn’t she call his bluff then?

    I’m guessing Merle raised Darryl but bullied/terrorized him at the same time too. Wasn’t there a scene where a Merle hallucination saved Darryl life last season? Pretty much described their relationship right there. Can’t wait to see how they kill off Merle.

  19. 19
    yeknom
    Posted November 27, 2012 at 2:17 pm

    @icthy That’s what I think about Merle & Daryl too. That after their mother died he might’ve been raised by Merle, but also bullied too. Didn’t Daryl say that Merle would go off for days and Daryl was left to fend for himself when he was younger?

    I think Daryl will at first be torn by his loyalty toward Merle because it’s his brother, but ultimately will defend the group since they made him feel like he belongs with them.

  20. 20
    Leenie
    Posted November 27, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    I guess I’m the only one who doesn’t care at all about Carol? I just don’t think she contributes anything to the show as a character.

  21. 21
    plockeness monster plockeness monster
    Posted November 27, 2012 at 5:03 pm

    Itchy – Darryl had a few Merle hallucinations in an episode last season. He was searching for Sophia in the woods. He was by Harold and almost got killed like, 5 times. I want to say “Merle” told him that he meant nothing to the group and it was just a matter of time before they saw him for who he really was.

    I think there is no way Darryl would turn on Rick and Co. He might have a moment where he questions himself, but will ultimately choose his new fam.

    I go back and forth with my Andrea hate. Could not stand her when she was an asshole to Dale but she redeemed herself before his death. She just wants to contribute to whatever group she is apart of. I think she had AWFUL taste in men. And a need for attention. She will never be worse than Lori.

  22. 22
    plockeness monster plockeness monster
    Posted November 27, 2012 at 5:05 pm

    Um, by himself, not Harold.

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    CattyFan cattyfan
    Posted November 27, 2012 at 7:54 pm

    I was, like, “who the hell is Harold???”

    I love Carol, especially her relationship with Daryl.

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    dee
    Posted November 27, 2012 at 10:27 pm

    I get a strong “First Slayer” vibe from Michonne whenever she arches her shoulders before killing a walker or tilts her head a bit while trying to figure out her next move. I like it.

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    itchy itchy
    Posted November 28, 2012 at 12:54 am

    I think plockeness wins the award for best typo ever.

    Anyone want to place bets on who Michonne hooks up with?

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    Chef Pants
    Posted November 28, 2012 at 4:21 am

    I’ll bet it will be with a person not yet on the show ;-)

  27. 27
    thespiral
    Posted November 28, 2012 at 5:29 am

    One of the most interesting themes on this show is just how far the survivors are degenerating over time. Now that “moral compass” characters like Dale and T-Dog are dead, Rick’s group is no longer even pretending to only kill the dead. The scene where they invaded the home and murdered the man in his bed was quick but very telling. Rick’s group aren’t “good guys” anymore; they’re just not as bad as some of the other guys out there, YET. If Carl and the baby died, I could easily imagine Rick turning into a monster even more fearsome than the Governor.

    Speaking of which, I also found the sexual assault scene very uncomfortable, and I really hate when shows/movies use this to create dramatic tension; it’s just so gross and hard to watch. I don’t know what it says about me as a person that I’m fine with gory beheadings and face stabbings though.

    I am fine with Michonne’s glowering and silence. They’re playing her as a mysterious comic book-style “samurai” character, which is cool, and I think the actress is skilled enough to portray various emotions playing under her gruff exterior.

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    thespiral
    Posted November 28, 2012 at 5:34 am

    Andrea, on the other hand, drives me nuts. I’m hardly expecting EVERY female character to be a towering feminist icon, but I find it completely unbelievable that she managed to survive so long and still be so stupid and lacking in intuitive instincts. For god’s sake, even Carol started off as a wimpy abused wife and has developed into something of a tough and useful character. But for Andrea to keep letting her vag drag her into bad situations? URGH. She needs to wise up quick or just die.

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    Mimo
    Posted November 28, 2012 at 6:30 am

    Maybe I missed something. I had taken what my family fondly calls “talking pills” and will readily admit that I was creating the scenes to my liking – but Rick’s group didn’t kill that random guy in the cabin. Michonne did. And only when he was trying to run out the front door. With zombies on the other side. Did I make that up too?

    As far as who Michonne might hook up with? My vote is for the big black guy back at the town. They kept showing him and showing him during the Michonne and Andrea are captured time that I was sure Michonne knew him. Anyhow, my vote is for him and it’s not just because he appeared to have a smoking hot rearend.

    And just FYI – while on my talking pills I would probably have known who Harold was. :)

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    plockeness monster plockeness monster
    Posted November 28, 2012 at 7:03 am

    LOL! Normally I just let the typos go, but I didn’t want to confuse y’all.

    I think Michonne is asexual.

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    thespiral
    Posted November 28, 2012 at 8:27 am

    You’re right, it was Michonne. And I don’t really see her hooking up with anyone, since it doesn’t seem to be a pressing concern (unlike dick-crazy Andrea.) If she does, I’d say it will be either Daryl or the big black prisoner guy. I can’t see her being attracted to a guy who isn’t an outlaw or total badass like herself. I didn’t notice the guy with the ‘smoking hot rear end’ though!

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    thespiral
    Posted November 28, 2012 at 8:31 am

    Also, have we considered Michonne might be a lesbian? Certain scenes with Andrea pinged my gaydar. In that case, she’s really unlucky because the zombie apocalypse seems to consist only of dirty unshaven men and useless straight women!

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    jerseyj
    Posted November 28, 2012 at 9:25 am

    I don’t know @thespiral…Carol’s got the haircut :p

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    itchy itchy
    Posted November 28, 2012 at 9:49 am

    Heh, Michonne and the big black guy. You know the show will give them LOTS to talk about.

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    Chef Pants
    Posted November 28, 2012 at 10:34 am

    You are all forgetting that they will be bringing Tyresse into the fold. If any of you know the story line of these two from the comics, it is definitley not tv friendly, more like Cinemax, lol!

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    plockeness monster plockeness monster
    Posted November 28, 2012 at 12:31 pm

    No comic talk, please.

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    plockeness monster plockeness monster
    Posted November 28, 2012 at 12:31 pm

    No comic talk, please. PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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    katya
    Posted November 28, 2012 at 1:56 pm

    Season 2 was a bit of a snoozefest. Though it was fun watching Shane completely lose it.

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    dallasboo
    Posted November 28, 2012 at 2:15 pm

    thespiral- I totally understand what you are saying about the sexual assault scene. I can watch zombies get sliced up all day and sometimes even laugh at how it is done…..but violating a woman to create tension turns my stomach.

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    Pillania Pillania
    Posted November 28, 2012 at 5:08 pm

    Whoa! I was so excited to real all of your comments/theories. The number of comments posted to date is already 4x the entire viewing audience of the last show I recapped (Bravo’s Miss Advised).

    @itchy #3 – yes! I completely forgot about the brunette lounging around in Governor’s bed. I like your observation that the people of the ‘Bury basically behave like zombies as well. There’s definitely a weird Pleasantville/Stepford thing happening.

    @cattyfan #4 – I watched on my computer so missed the KFC thing. LOL! That’s basically the disgusting, zombie-like food tie-in I referred to in the recap. Didn’t realize that market had already been cornered.
    Yessss the thong!!! Now the real question re: Andrea is what she will do when faced with a harrowing choice: pick her ass, or kill a walker?
    & I suppose could have thrown up in…someone else’s mouth? ;)

    @plockeness #5, 9 – I think my Carl hate stems from the fact I watched S2 just last weekend. So his shitty self is still fresh in my mind. Didn’t Andrea say the gang probably went back for her, and that if not she understood why? All with a subtext of: “I can’t effing believe they left me to die HATEHATEHATEHATE”

    @judd #11 – Darabont also did The Green Mile, also based on a Stephen King work (a novella, I believe). Jeffery DeMunn (Dale) played one of the prison guards. I read somewhere DeMunn and Jon Bernthal (Shane) will both appear on Darabon’t new series.

    @Leenie #20 – I agree with you about Carol, but don’t think she’ll be going there because she’ll best fill the role as mom (and probably think of Judith Light as her own, esp. since Sophia is gone). Last season her only function was the be a source of guilt/obligation to Rick to keep looking for Sophia even when it was painfully obvious they were not going to find what they were looking for.

    @thespiral #27 – I sort of considered Rick to be a balance between the overly moral Dale and balls-to-the-walls-Shane. Re: Dale..sorry, but that dude needed a reality check. This is an apocalypse, not an autumn hayride through an apple orchard. In his not-totally-nuts moments, Shane talked a lot of sense and was possibly the most realistic one about the world they were living in. Now that those polar opposites are gone, it seems like it’s going to be hard for Rick to maintain his grip on reality. I’m sure this will be addressed with some grating plot point about how Judith Light=Rick’s salvation.

    OK poll time: Who could take out the most walkers in under a minute – Michonne or Buffy?

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    annie annie
    Posted November 28, 2012 at 5:08 pm

    This episosde tied my stomach up in knots…….Maggie’s scene with the gubb’ner was horrifying, Glenn getting the shit beat out of him…..but more than anything, having to see Andrea’s thong. BLEHHCH :P
    Nothing like wearing the world’s most uncomfortable underwear during the Zombie Apocolypse. For the record, if it ever comes down to it, I am going FULL BRIEF baby!
    Also I noticed she had the smoothest legs in all the land…….bitch!

    The Darryl / Merle situation is interesting. Will they both go against their groups, will Darryl kill Merle for the asshole that he is? Will Merle really stick with the gub’ner?

    I’m calling it now: I see a total Mischonne / Herschel hookup. They are both people of few words, yet their love will speak volumes :)

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    CattyFan cattyfan
    Posted November 28, 2012 at 6:30 pm

    ” I suppose could have thrown up in…someone else’s mouth?”

    Pillania…very South Park of you LOL :)

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    CattyFan cattyfan
    Posted November 28, 2012 at 6:33 pm

    Oh…and I’m totally going with Buffy. Because I loved her for seven seasons.

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    plockeness monster plockeness monster
    Posted November 29, 2012 at 6:43 am

    I concur, Buffy over Michonne.

    BUT if it was the Scooby Gang vs. Rick and Co., Rick’s team would def. have the advantage.

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    CattyFan cattyfan
    Posted November 29, 2012 at 7:48 am

    Just imagining Daryl facing off with Zander…

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    sweetblondie
    Posted November 30, 2012 at 9:28 am

    Are there condoms, diaphrams or Plan B in Woodbury? How is Andrea not going to get pregant from all that sex with Gov’ner Doucheberry…?

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    Mimo
    Posted November 30, 2012 at 9:57 am

    I was trying to find something to watch on the tube last night and happened upon the last five minutes of an old CSI Miami. It was old enough that Calleigh still looked like Calleigh. Anyhow, they had just caught the “bad guy”. It was Merle! Strangest thing – he had a right prostetic hook arm. Anyone know if he has that in real life?

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    sweetblondie
    Posted November 30, 2012 at 10:22 am

    Pillania, you’ll have to fight me for Michonne!

    When we watched this episode I said to my husband “I have the meanest girl crush on Michonne!” and he said “I know…you say that EVERY episode!” (hee!)

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    sweetblondie
    Posted November 30, 2012 at 10:30 am

    Chef Pants: Pillania actually states IN THE RECAP to please not mention comic spoiler…*shaking head*

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    plockeness monster plockeness monster
    Posted November 30, 2012 at 2:17 pm

    I am sure the Gov. has a life time supply of condoms stashed some where in his room! He IS quite the man whore…

    Catty – LOL! Xander v. Daryl!!!! What about Carol vs. Willow? Glen vs. Spike???

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