The Walking Dead Recap: When You’re Here, You’re Family

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   JimmyT
   Posted March 18, 2013 at 10:48 pm

   Thanks for the recap Pill!

   There were a couple o moments in the warehouse scene when I started feeling a little better about Andrea. I told myself that the main fault was that the writers have stuck her with crappy role/part and that she could have been a better character. But then, I saw Laurie Holden talk about Andrea during that talk show that they have after the episode and all the hate was back.

   Laurie Holden was as annoying as Andrea. The whole show she kept blathering about how bad-ass Andrea is. She even tried to blame Tyrese and his best friend’s brother’s girlfriend with having told the Gov. that LAK is probably Shane’s kid…please. I hope that the prediction that she will be gone within the next two episodes will remain true.

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   itchy
   Posted March 19, 2013 at 2:38 am

   I’m guessing by this point that Milton and the Guv are brothers. Or maybe brothers-in-law, making the guv’s daughter Milton’s niece. Can’t wait til the big reveal. Ho hum.

   If I were a woman, though, I’d get really pissed off watching this show. You gals are worthless! Of course, just because one guy happens to be in position to rescue you from a zombie attack, you’ll leave your husband for him. Of course you would! Silly women! Now, give up your guns and back to the kitchen with you.

   It could be worse though. If this show were produced by Mark Burnett and his fanatic wife, all of the zombies would be dressed up in Obama masks.

   I’m fed up with the Guv’s schtick. No one would seriously follow this guy. Martinez seems like he’s got a decent head on his shoulders — someone like that would have clearly seen what was up and just offed him already.

   At this point, the Guv’nor’s on his way to becoming another Lori. There’s now a 75% chance that the moment he comes onscreen all the action and suspense will just die. Because, yeah, it’s perfectly obvious they’re saving him up for the big finale. And he’ll probably escape from that anyway to become a menace again later on. But not before over-acting so much that the manure starts flowing from my screen.

   Meanwhile, who believes he’ll actually torture Andrea? She’ll be rescued at the last minute, just as he’s about to do the first of the nasty things he had planned for Michonne. Ho-hum.

   So yeah, none of this is boding well for the future of the series. It’s all way too predictable now — the new directing/writing crew is in serious risk of screwing the pooch. I’ll cut them some slack for now, and assume they’re just stuck with the stupid choices the previous crew made. But they seem intent on making it all worse by sucking all of the suspense from the show.

   Lastly, the makeup of the burned zombies in the pit was surprisingly bad — especially that one gal actress, the butterface one on top, who completely destroyed the illusion. You know she’s got this on her IMDb resume though.

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   lindaw205
   Posted March 19, 2013 at 6:53 am

   I don’t understand why they haven’t at least given some half ass reason for the Guv’s motives in wanting to kill the Rickettes , well, besides Michonne. He isn’t interested in moving into the prison and certainly doesn’t need their supplies. Have I missed something somewhere?

   And I felt nothing for Andrea. She never expressed (that I could tell) the outright terror she should have been feeling. I thought the whole escape thing was poorly written and full of plot holes. Does the Guv have an Andrea GPS on the truck?

   And Martinez seems too smart to be following the Guvnah blindly. Seems like he was once a decent human, judging from the bonding with Daryl.

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   lindaw205
   Posted March 19, 2013 at 7:12 am

   In case you couldn’t tell, I didn’t much care for this episode. It seemed really poorly written and featured way too much Andrea. And I agree, they could have done much more with that scene between Andrea and Michonne. Bah!

   I hope they don’t kill off Hershel as a ha! look what we can do to major characters if we wannna!

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   cattyfan
   Posted March 19, 2013 at 7:15 am

   How would Tyrese have even known about the whole Shane/Lori mess? That claim was just ridiculous.

   I am beginning to like Milton…which probably means he’s doomed.

   Oh…and, itchy. You really shouldn’t just swallow headlines for fact. The guy playing Satan in the The Bible miniseries has played similar parts for years…long before Obama was ever in office. Can you try, just once, to keep politics and religion out of things?

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   Justelle
   Posted March 19, 2013 at 7:24 am

   Ha his over acting I kind of loved.During his aha moment about Milton he looked scared and I loved that he could do that with one eye. Its all hit and miss with the acting on this show but for me hes spot on. I hope he dies though. If thye try to humanize him with whoever he used to be I’m worried they’ll ruin him Let him be crazy and evil and down him and he’ll be a cool memory in next season. Humanize him and I’ll feel bad and he’ll be a tragic memory instead of just some scary over the top crazy guy.

   I also thought Milton was his brother. The two actors have the same colouring and both have wide set face. I could see them being cast as brothers. I wonder if there is a Merle and Daryl comparison we’re supposed to see. Of course now that I think they’re brothers they’ll just be old bowling team buddies or something.
   MY prediction is he zombifies and Milton keeps him like Michonnes armless jawless wonders. That scene was really unrelated in the beginning but I wondered if we were supposed to catch oh yea Gov is a crazy unhuman monster already (It was subtle. They’ve only been giving hints for about 12 episodes or so that he might be slightly unhinged)

   My prediction. He becomes a zombie, Milton takes the town and has a new pet who has a spark of who he used to be or something. But I HOPE he joins the Rickettes. He’s nerdy and I like him. So scratch that. I predict Milton dies soon.

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   lemmonee
   Posted March 19, 2013 at 7:31 am

   If you watched Laurie on the Talking Dead then you also heard her mention, that they cut a couple of conversations she had with the Rickettes while the Gov and Rick were alone. One with Hershel, regarding why she was going back with to Woodbury. I got the impression she shared some kind of plan with him. The other dialog she has was with Daryl, regarding some of her actions since parting with the Rickettes. She seemed to imply these were important. I don’t know why they would cut them, but I really want to see them now. She hoped that the deleted scenes, made it to this season’s DVD and I do too. She was even a little defensive about how the audience was reacting to her this season. Are we missing some things? Why did they have to hurry us into the war? In some ways I don’t even really care about it. Do you guys? It was like they could not wait to bring on the strong characters…The Gov …..Michonne…. or introduce us to Woodbury….. And now they don’t know what to do with them, except fight. I would love to see more on Michonne and Andrea’s winter time. More on the day to day survival of the group. How about some stories on how some of the folks made it to Woodbury. Make us care about them, then have the Gov mess it up and cause conflict. Like the evil person he is.

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   jerseyj
   Posted March 19, 2013 at 7:31 am

   Thanks you for pointing out the idiocy of running through a wide open field! Every decision Andrea made I f0und myself cringing at. Stay in the trees, follow the road so you don’t get lost, and for goodness sakes at least check if the keys are in the truck!

   So, has anyone else noticed that while the zombies are attacking someone they are obnoxiously loud mouth-breathers, yet we never hear them until they are right on top of someone in the case of a surprise attack. You can’t tell me Andrea wouldn’t have heard that biter coming from behind the tree!

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   JimmyT
   Posted March 19, 2013 at 7:43 am

   @catty – that’s exactly what I mean about Laurie Holden. She also tried to suggest that she had probably talked to the Guv about all her wonderful friends in the farm at one point or another and that the Guv. just took a stab in the dark to rattle Rick. She is just as deluded as Andrea. The only way the Guv knew about the Lori/Shane thing was because of her.

   A friend of mine who watches Talking Dead regularly told me that each time they have an actor in the series sit in for a full episode (rather than show up for a segment), it is sort of a swan song and the character ends up getting killed off….we can only hope. I’m really getting tired of her wannabe swagger.

   As for Milton, I’m liking him too. I’m guessing that he is probably the Guv.’s bother-in-law. Rather than the more predictable Milton turning on the Guv. thing, I would be great if he were being set up to become an antagonist of some sort next season. Maybe he’ll somehow get betrayed by Andrea or some other misunderstanding will push him off the deep end. He’s got a bit of that weak, mild-mannered nerd that is mistreatead and ends up becoming a super-villian vibe.

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    itchy
    Posted March 19, 2013 at 7:44 am

    Oh dear, dear cattyfan. Lighten up would you? It was a joke.

    But you know the old saying, if it looks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. Especially if it’s produced by Mark Burnett.

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    plockness monster
    Posted March 19, 2013 at 7:57 am

    I laughed, Itchy.

    Pill – Hilarious recap! Too many funny lines to quote. I agree about Tyrese’s sister, the writers waited much too long to reveal who she was in relation to Tyrese. I always assumed she was his girlfriend.

    As soon as I saw the charred zombies in the pit, I knew I would have nightmares about them.

    Although I didn’t want Andrea to die this episode, I thought it would be cool if they zoomed in on Andrea in the torture chair and she was sans an eye or arm or something…not just sitting there.

    I try to look over most plot holes in the show because I love it and want to have its babies, but the Guv knowing that Andrea was in that field was LAME.

    Right now, I would say I hate the nameless dude, with the teenage son, the most. The one that was w/ Tyrese and his sister. Tyrese should’ve let the zombies in the pit munch on his head. Also, how shitty would you feel if you were nameless dude’s son?! He was screaming a Tyrese to just kill him already. Thanks, dad. Love you too.

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    itchy
    Posted March 19, 2013 at 8:12 am

    “Also, how shitty would you feel if you were nameless dude’s son?! He was screaming a Tyrese to just kill him already. Thanks, dad. Love you too.”

    Ha! My nomination for comment of the week!

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    lemmonee
    Posted March 19, 2013 at 9:26 am

    I hope that the new writers do get things back on track. The story has been all over the place this season. Are they over compensating for last year’s Farm Fail? I do believe they mentioned she was his sis, way back when they first came through the wall. We have gotten so little on Tyrese and his group. Another waste of a strong character. Once again we could use some good ole flash backs to fill us in. Don’t just through it out there in a confusing exchange like that….Common… There are so many stories to tell. The Gov is a terrible person. I just don’t understand why they have not let us in on what made him. His journey, who he was and who’s idenity he took. Much better than just the town and prison going to throw down. I do love this show and can over look some of the holes in the stories. I just want some of the good stories told, that’s all.

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    plockness monster
    Posted March 19, 2013 at 9:53 am

    I agree, I would like to know more about the Guv. He’s such a central character. I don’t think I care as much about Tyrese and sis b/c they’ll probably die anyway.

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    JimmyT
    Posted March 19, 2013 at 10:06 am

    I think that the writers might be trying to save Tyrese (and probably Michone) as more central characters for next season. They are probably trying to milk each character as much as possible and figured that the Guv would be enough for now.

    I can understand the logic (although I don’t agree with it), but they could have done a much better job with the Guv so that we don’t keep asking about the other characters. Also, if that was the plan, they shot themselves in the foot by introducing Michone too early. If they don’t fix some of this quick, the show is not going to go into the tens of seasons that they are probably hoping for. They’ll end up with a whole bunch of great characters and story lines saved for a later that never came. That’s what happens when you start making long-term profits, a franchise and merchandising your priority rather than caring about the story you started telling.

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    CindyB
    Posted March 19, 2013 at 10:10 am

    I have to admit, my respect for Andrea went up a notch or two this episode. Not for her less-than-stellar method of escaping, more for the idea that she finally decided to escape at all. Finally wised up. It was also nice seeing her ambulate like a normal human, instead of rocking that swagger that involves cocking her right arm backwards and never moving it, kind of like a Barbie arm.

    Perhaps the walkers are more passive now than aggressive because it’s been, what, a couple years since season one? They are running out of food and are conserving energy. I know that’s how I feel when I’m dieting (during which time I also feel like munching on leg or a finger).

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    sheesh
    Posted March 19, 2013 at 10:33 am

    uH..a speculum in the torture room.
    Tha’ Fuck?

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    eyediosmio
    Posted March 19, 2013 at 11:23 am

    I can’t watch this show at all, it totally squicks me out – which is why I only read the recaps – which admittedly are way funnier. And not as gross.

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    lemmonee
    Posted March 19, 2013 at 11:27 am

    Well Said Jimmy T.
    Sheesh, gynecological nightmare is in Andrea’s future for sure.

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    sheesh
    Posted March 19, 2013 at 11:45 am

    Well I hope Andrea feels STUPID about her decision(s) to not kill Phillip.
    And her decision to run in an open field.
    And giving up her gun.
    Not taking the truck.
    Not staying with Rick and crew.
    Not stopping Michonne from killing Phillip…..

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    the_spiral
    Posted March 19, 2013 at 11:46 am

    Well I’m sure none of these ladies have caught up on their yearly gyno exam since the ZA, so maybe he’s just concerned for their reproductive health?

    Also, did we need all that filler, show? Really? The episode where they met Morgan was SO GOOD and they’ve been stalling ever since. Yes, we know the Governor is evil. Yes, we know Andrea means well but is kinda clueless. Can something interesting happen that will move the plot forward, or do we need to save EVERYTHING for the finale? And knowing these writers, the next episode is going to be a bunch of endless Rickette waffling about “Should we or shouldn’t we give Michonne up?” when we all know full well they won’t, because that would be fucking stupid, and also because there needs to be a big gunfight in the finale to justify all the boredom. I’m not sure if the writers are obtuse or if they just think we are.

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    plockness monster
    Posted March 19, 2013 at 12:00 pm

    There better be an all out, nuts to the fucking wall, kill anyone that gives you the side eye, war during the last episode. I’ll still keep watching the show if that doesn’t happen, but I really want to see some humans die.

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    JimmyT
    Posted March 19, 2013 at 12:25 pm

    @sheesh re: speculum

    This could be is a clever hint by the writers about the Guv’s past. Maybe before the ZA he worked for the Virginia or Alabama legislatures.

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    juddfan
    Posted March 19, 2013 at 12:37 pm

    OMG, I’m reading this and just saw JimmyT’s comment in the scroll about the speculum . . . I can’t wait to see if one of you has confirmed that for me, coz I kinda thought that’s what that was . . . funny how they didn’t mention it on the run through of that room on talking dead . . . back to reading!

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    sheesh
    Posted March 19, 2013 at 12:53 pm

    I hope Milton rescues Andrea from the speculum of doom and then she gets sessy with him while Phillip is tied up in “the chair” and has to watch.

    Gah! What has this show done to me?

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    CindyB
    Posted March 19, 2013 at 1:00 pm

    I thought it was an intubator instead of a speculum. But my medical experience is limited to the veterinary field, and we never used speculums on cats, so what do I know.

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    juddfan
    Posted March 19, 2013 at 1:25 pm

    allright you gasmi, here goes! Am I the only one that found him laying out implements of torture to be chilling to the bone!? I thought the flashback with Michonne was to establish why Andrea would want to protect her from being tortured. Having done some writing in the past, I thought Michonne saying they deserved it was clear that they had tortured and abused her in the past, and it was their comeuppance!

    I also thought it was pretty chilling to have Philip chasing Andrea relentlessly to kill her . . . way to break up, amiright! The zombie surge on Gov was awesome, IMHO, and it was even pretty cool how he grabbed her before Rick saw her . . . so close . . . yes, all very convenient and magical, but still . . .

    Again, they should be clearing those fucking fences of zombies so they could actually see a human coming, sigh . . . what do they do all day, listen to Luna sing!?

    I for one, hope it is Milton approaching Andrea at the end. I do not want to see women tortured, I got enough of that from AHS!

    I haven’t hated Andrea as much as you, and like Pill, was finding her arc getting better this time. I also don’t hate Laurie . . . she’s frikkin’ gorgeous, such pretty eyes and skin. I liked her on Talking Dead. I also liked that comedian, he was funny and cute, and quick!

    I did know Sasha was the sister, but I found all those descriptions amusing just the same.

    Obama haters exhaust me, they should just shut up with their thinly veiled prejudice, who cares if the actor does look like Jesus . . . what a world . . .

    allright, now I know you’re all gonna jump on me, but that’s what I love about it here! Squeeeee!

    Oh, and Itchy . . . I thought the burnt walkers were awesome, I loved that! sniff . . .

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    zbird
    Posted March 19, 2013 at 1:37 pm

    I’m only on page 3 but I’m taking a breather from cracking up over the combo of Michonne’s enigmatic personality disorder description + the many titles of Tyrese’s friend’s nanny’s uncle’s niece. You rule, Pillania! I sure hope no one is continuing to take the piss out of you in the comments, because it is so obvious that you love this show enough to heap abuse upon it, which is my favorite type of recapper. Back to reading…

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    itchy
    Posted March 19, 2013 at 2:14 pm

    I think we’d all go insane if we didn’t take the piss out this show. It got me to thinking: what would have happened if the original Star Trek series had aired in the Internet era?

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    zbird
    Posted March 19, 2013 at 2:59 pm

    No Juddfan, you’re not alone.

    Itchy: everyone on the inner tubes is a jaded mo-fo, so they would have ripped it to shreds. Snark I like: Cappers like Pillania crack me up. But sometimes it just seems like everyone in the world has to act like they are above everything, so as to not appear the fool. It gets annoying.

    Sheesh: Speculum of DOOM! LOL! I was so grossed out when I saw that thing! I was surprised that they didn’t mention it on the Talking Dead — even the prop guy glossed over it.

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    carol
    Posted March 19, 2013 at 3:09 pm

    I had an awful dream last night that combined The Walking Dead and Survivor. I woke up with chills and wishing I could forget what I saw. Basically, combine the gore of TWD with Survivor. It was not pretty.

    I will give it to the editors/writers/etc with the torture stuff. Seeing the Gov prep the room, then his facial expressions while laying out the tools was great. It was really well done, to the point where they don’t even have to show the actual torture because what the viewers are now thinking in their minds will be worse than what they show. Also, when they showed Andrea in the chair, I really didn’t care. If that had been Michonne, oh boy, I would have been counting down the days until Sunday.

    In the previews for next week – why does everyone look so clean? Did they fix the running water at the prison and find a hidden supply of soap?

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    TallGirl
    Posted March 19, 2013 at 3:10 pm

    Maybe the Guv will make Milt torture Andrea a la Saddam and his boys at the infamous Iraqi prison. If you’re loyal to me, you’ll do this or else . . .

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    Justelle
    Posted March 19, 2013 at 4:48 pm

    Also why did it have to be a dilapidated old warehouse? I think it would have been much scairer to have it be something that had JUST run down during the ZA. A grocery store or a not run down ware house. I think they missed the mark by having it be something that looked like it was closed 50 years instead of like a year and a half. Part of the scariness of the ZA is that the world was JUST normal not that long ago. And the zombies outside the door would have made TONS more sense in that context of it being a place of business that just recently shut down. Hide in your place of business until eventually they zombified too. It seemed ore like these zombies just appeared in this place though.

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    April
    Posted March 19, 2013 at 6:52 pm

    Like everyone else my husband and I could talk about nothing else but the speculum of doom.

    I thought she was dumb as hell to be on the road or in a field. Stick to the woods dummy. Also what about all these zombies just sneaking up on people? They are supposed to be loud, clumsy and moaning so hard to sneak up on you unless you happen to sneak up on them type situation. I thought her letting the zombies attack him was clever though. I was thinking the same thing about getting behind the door.

    Also why did she abandon the whole killing him in his sleep thing? Honestly if she just sidled up to him like nothing was wrong and complimented him and got her tits out, he might have still gone for some sex and she could get him then. That is what I would have tried to do.

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    Dashley
    Posted March 19, 2013 at 7:29 pm

    Great recap Pill! I was cracking up at the descriptions of who Tyrese’s sidekick could be, because I didn’t have any idea who she was either. But she’s so pretty and he’s so hot, and it’s great that they’re related, because when they inevitably join the Rickettes permanently (not a spoiler, a guess,) it will open up opportunities for romance with the existing Rickettes. I need to see a little romance, guys! Glenn and Maggie are so cute, but that’s old news now.
    I’m sick to death of the leadup to the showdown. Let’s just get this over with please? Seriously. And I think they screwed up with Martinez’s character. If he’s as powerful and dickish as Milt would have us believe, wouldn’t he have figured out on his own by now that if he killed the governor, he’d be in charge? He seems like the kind of guy that would figure that out and execute a plan to make it happen. He wouldn’t be blindly following the Gov. Just saying.

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    ohralphie
    Posted March 19, 2013 at 8:08 pm

    Killing the Rickettes is STDs modus operandi. The Guv and his minions killed the soldiers for no reason other than making sure there was no potential opposition in the immediate area. I imagine this was a scenerio played out time and again.
    Seeing the Speculum of Doom gave me an immediate flashback to this movie from the early 90′s ….it was about twin brothers with a completely inappropriate relationship with other..and speculums. Scared the shit out of me and stopped me from going to the gyno for years afterward. Not even Andrea deserves this fate (Lori otoh totally did)
    The Walking Dead has such an incredible premise and so much damn promise that it kills me when the writers KEEP dropping the ball. Time after time after time they draw out scenes that go nowhere, storylines that limp towards their own death, and completely overt racism (how many black men can be on the show at a time TWD writers?) And to top it all off, they don’t even provide a complete fucking season!
    I loved Lost – but hated it at the end, and I fear TWD is going the same way. Surely AMC is making money off this show – maybe it’s time to hire talented writers? I understand LA is populated with them.
    Great recap th0ugh Pilania – hopefully next week will have some action of the non gynocological kind for you to write about.

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    itchy
    Posted March 20, 2013 at 1:41 am

    Why is it that with you gals the Zombie Apocalypse inevitably focuses on vaginas? And they say us guys are tool-obsessed.

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    the_spiral
    Posted March 20, 2013 at 3:51 am

    Silly itchy, it’s because everything in the world focuses on vaginas.

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    sheesh
    Posted March 20, 2013 at 5:15 am

    Apparently you have YET to experience a Speculum of Doom, itchy.
    They are cold.
    It’s an experience that will stick with you.

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    April
    Posted March 20, 2013 at 6:12 am

    The comic gives a bit of Michonne’s backstory but I don’t think that is the same backstory the show is going for. It seemed to conflict…..

    I was guessing Milton for the burning of the walkers too. He is overplaying his hand. Yes, the Gov needs you and your medical and scientific expertise, but don’t think you are above getting a smackdown either. Because you aren’t. Not from a crazy person who will sometimes act first and think about it later.

    The whole revolves around vaginas, didn’t you know that? The world’s oldest profession, keeping humanity going, the place the penis always wants to go. I am reading the “Road to Woodbury” right now and they talk about that a bit. Women in Woodbury when it was starting out were rare (at least young women) so they used their goodies to barter for food and protection. Makes sense I guess.

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    plockness monster
    Posted March 20, 2013 at 7:27 am

    The actor that plays Milton got a role on a CBS pilot, but, as someone pointed out, the filming schedule of the pilot and TWD are different.

    Speculums are evil. You know what else is evil??? Those really long qtips.

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    Dashley
    Posted March 20, 2013 at 11:45 am

    Speculums? … Specula? Maybe both are correct? (Either way… ick. So awful.)

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    jerzgrrrl72
    Posted March 20, 2013 at 11:51 am

    @ plockness: OUCH! I get the heebs just thinking about either of those things Btw, I don’t want to beat this speculum thing to death, but did anyone else notice a lack of stirrups and/or medical table of sorts? I may be naive, but where exactly does the Gov plan to be able to use the “speculum of doom?”

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    itchy
    Posted March 20, 2013 at 12:41 pm

    Don’t speculums have to be icy cold before they’re used?

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    Dashley
    Posted March 20, 2013 at 1:17 pm

    Yes, Itchy. It’s a requirement. Medical professionals can’t get licensed until they show the review board that they know how to cool the speculums/specula in ice water. It’s kinda like demonstrating that you can parallel park in your driver’s test.

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    April
    Posted March 20, 2013 at 1:23 pm

    Oh no……………….don’t even……………jerz…………….I think I just died inside.

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    itchy
    Posted March 20, 2013 at 2:05 pm

    This is what my brother the gynecologist told me, but I didn’t believe it was true. Must have been the sinister cackle when he was telling me this.

    Well, yet once again, everything I’ve learned today has come from Tvgasm.

    And now that I think of it. It’s probably been about four years since I discovered this site. I’d should have earned a bachelor’s degree from the U of TvG by now. Or at least a tee-shirt and a bumper sticker.

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    itchy
    Posted March 20, 2013 at 2:08 pm

    Oh- but fear not ladies. This is the Walking Dead. So even though the Guv’nor will spend another episode or two laying out his little toolbox there, he won’t actually use any of it.

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    the_spiral
    Posted March 20, 2013 at 6:13 pm

    I agree, itchy. I actually cringed when they showed him constructing his little rape romper room, because that’s around the point in the (other media source we’re not allowed to talk about here) when things got super dark and nasty and stayed there for a while. But I don’t think they can show all that on cable TV, so I’m guessing he’s just going to keep Andrea and/or Michonne there for a little while, go off on some cliched “nobody can defeat my evil plan muahahahaha” rant, maybe whistle annoyingly some more, and lollygag around for awhile until the inevitable last-minute rescue.

    Which is a relief, since I’m sure all the other ladies here will concur that a speculum, even when used in the “regular” medically-sanctioned way, is a pretty scary instrument of torture!

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    itchy
    Posted March 21, 2013 at 1:58 am

    I think at this point they’ve departed really far from the story in the books — at a certain point, it’ll become impossible to dovetail back again, you’d figure. Apparently, the Tyrese character in the books is some sort of kickass superhero, and not the dithering wuss they’re showing in the series.

    Personally, I hope they don’t go too dark with the series — I understand perfectly well how cruel people can be to each other. I prefer the focus to be on surviving – and battling the zombies.

    Speaking of which, if anyone has access to the BBC, they have a new mini-series, called In the Flesh — a much different take on the whole Zombie idea. First episode is pretty good. Verrrrry British!

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    lindaw205
    Posted March 21, 2013 at 2:40 am

    I would like to see In The Flesh. And my interest in TWD, too, is to see the surviving and zombies. That’s another reason I’m bummed they gloss over these parts to bore us with Woodbury.

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    sheesh
    Posted March 21, 2013 at 5:25 am

    @the_spiral
    Are you telling me Phillip is gonna get caught monologuing!
    Hahahahaha!
    They should spend an hour on The Rickettes making awesome traps with stuff scavanged from the prison.

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    itchy
    Posted March 21, 2013 at 5:37 am

    Yeah, you’d think after seeing the awesomeness that was Morganville, they’d be spending all this time making traps, instead of just sitting around brooding in their cells.

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    sheesh
    Posted March 21, 2013 at 6:27 am

    I would like to see Phillip give his speech to the townspeople on why they need to go to war.

    I know if/when I am stuck in a Zombie Apocalypse and some rando tries to get me to lay down my life after all I have gone through to survive and kill humans when there is a shit ton of zombies all round I wouldn’t just go “Derp..okaaaayyy.”
    I’d be all, “The fuck you say? You want to waste precious ammo and resources because you need to prove that you have a bigger wang? Get the fuck outta here.”

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    plockness monster
    Posted March 21, 2013 at 7:35 am

    I just don’t get British television. Maybe it goes over my head. I prefer poop jokes and people getting hurt.

    Itchy – I am w/ you, I need zombie action and survival.

    Also, I agree w/ the comment that Milton is Guv’s brother in law. He knew his name was Philip. Sadly, I just realized this. It’s been a long week…

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    sweetblondie
    Posted March 21, 2013 at 10:23 am

    @ohralphie: NOOOOOOO! I haven’t thought about Dead Ringers in years…dammit!! Now it’ll take more years and lots of drugs to forget it again…*shiver*

    @Sheesh: Yes, definitely at least one A-Team/MacGuyver segment when they’re making cool stuff out of scraps! YAY THIS!

    The warehouse scene. Ugh. Woman creeping around (sort of) silently in an abandoned building while being stalked by crazy man out to kill/rape/rape and kill her…geez, I’ve never seen that before.

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    juddfan
    Posted March 21, 2013 at 10:50 am

    @sweetblondie, you beat me, I couldn’t think of the name of that movie. Horrible, horrible movie, and Jeremy Irons can never be the same to me after. ew . . . . For some reason, the SOD (speculum of doom) also makes me think of Sybil . . . . double ew!

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    April
    Posted March 21, 2013 at 11:18 am

    You guys can join my ZA group. You think like I do. Stop all this fighting amongst humans and concentrate on the zombies already! Damn!!!! Also yes to the traps. I need to buy some trap books and keep with me so when the shit goes down I know how to make some. For humans and zombies. If the ZA happens and I get ate by a zombie or whatever, that is one thing. If I get killed by a human I am going to be really pissed because that is such a waste.

    This is why I will not join a big group or society during ZA. We are hiding out just a few of us in the country and leave it at that. Kinda like Hershel’s family before they let the fucking Rickettes join them. Think about it, Hershel’s family would still be chilling at that farm if the Rickettes never came. It was their gun shots over drama that caused the herd to come their way. We are not housing zombies in the barn though.

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    sweetblondie
    Posted March 21, 2013 at 12:13 pm

    @juddfan: Jeremy Irons made a good psycho doctor. But he was dead to me after Die Hard 3.

    I miss Daryl. Should’ve been him in the tower instead of Rick just so I couldn’t gotten my D-Fix. Sigh…

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    ohralphie
    Posted March 21, 2013 at 3:16 pm

    @sweetblondie – oh god, Dead Ringers……I looked at all gynocologists with suspicion after that nightmarish hell of a movie.
    When watching the hunt for Andrea, my dh (who is usually very even tempered) was shouting at the tv “all that f’ing noise the Govs truck/whistling/banging is making and not a single zombie shows up but yet let Andrea exhale a bit loud in a forest and she has zombies all over her!
    After the gov falling down a flight of a stairs with several zombies latched on him and yet miraculously showing up and kidnapping that dumb bunny Andrea well…..I’m afraid that TWD is perilously closs to jumping the shark.
    I wish that the writers would read this thread, maybe they would self correct while there is still time.

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    JimmyT
    Posted March 21, 2013 at 4:36 pm

    Dead Ringers was also creepy because the producers designed all these extra-creepy looking medical instruments. Follow this link if you want to be creeped out more:

    http://www.criterion.com/current/posts/2194-instruments-for-operating-on-mutant-women

    Also, I really creeped me out that the doctors, operating staff and operating theater linens were also blood red.

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    juddfan
    Posted March 22, 2013 at 10:51 am

    thanks for the link, JimmyT, NOT!!!! kidding . . . . those images still burn in my blurry memory, I do not want to see them again. I still remember the look on the blonde patients face when he was trying one . . . .shudder . . .