Donna says she has known other pathological liars and what they have is a serious illness.
Much like OCD and germ phobias are serious enough to affect your ability to attract a mate.
Danielle comes on to express her surprise or something. I’m not listening, I’m marveling:
So pretty like this. Seriously, Danielle, have we
made our point? NO MORE ORANGE!
Here’s the thing about lying; one way or another you always get caught. I would think that an expert like Tiffany would realize this- especially since she was lying to an entire staff of a tv production company – of course they would find out – that kind of dirt makes good tv. But maybe she really can’t help herself.
Let’s hope she gets some help so this can be her last walk of shame.
It’s the next day and it is as if nothing major has happened. There is a tranquil scene of girls in the kitchen writing recipes and doing dishes when all of the sudden Steve’s voice comes over a radio. He announces that coming up next on his weekly radio spot will be the girls from Tough Love New Orleans to answer audience questions about sex. Melissa looks horrified as Danielle says, “yes to the penis.”
The girls arrive at the studio where Steve is doing the show and he invites them into his booth. He explains to us that having the girls discuss sex in front of a live audience will help him determine how open or closed-off they are about sex and if they understand how most people think about it.
Couldn’t they just fill out a questionnaire?
He tells the girls there are several calls waiting for them. I’m suspicious these radio callers are plants and that isn’t assuaged by the first caller who wants to be intimate without going all the way. Melissa recommends a hand job. For some reason, I’m suddenly remembering high school.
I think Melissa passes the test.
Steve assigns the next question about how to tell if you are in love to Elizabeth. Her answer is odd – it’s all about how if the man is showing the extra effort of sending roses and opening the car door, etc. then that is the green light. I wonder if Elizabeth can even touch base with her internal feelings or if she bases everything on image and effort from others. Man, her parents have really screwed her up!
Now I’m fairly positive the radio show is a hoax because there is no way Steve would let his listeners be sent off with this kind of advice. It would actually serve the girls well if he corrected their thoughts and said something like, “Actually Elizabeth, Melissa has had it right all along and it’s only when your vagina quivers that you know you are in love.” Something like that…
The next question is about if you should sleep with a guy on the first date. Poor Tiffany could have answered this one. But it is Despina who gets called to dole out the advice. First she needs more information:
Are you looking for sex or a relationship?
She suggests if you want to have a relationship with the guy you should wait, otherwise get in there and get ‘er done! Steve asks Despina how many relationships she’s been in and she admits she never has been in one. I think this makes her an expert on knowing that sleeping with a guy on the first date means things won’t be going anywhere. Despina admits she can talk about sex all day but she’s never explored her emotions.
The next girl wants to know how to introduce the idea of using her vibrator while having sex with her man. The girls are totally into this idea.
Hells yeah, sister!
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My first random thought is that maybe Tiffany was married to Ruben Studdard, since he’s got that horrible ass “June 28th” song that’s playing on all the R&B stations. Don’t google it, unless you truly want your ears to bleed. My second random thought was that she missed the boat and must’ve been a Flavor of Love reject, because Flav wouldn’t have cared or minded about her situation at home because she would have been dumped prior to the reunion show, thus justifying another shitfest season.
Can Steve just come out of the closet already?
Steve and Elizabeth just need to bang already!
It seems the only thing Tiffany didn’t lie about was her first name. Jeeze – did she think the production team would find out? Although, how freaking slow are they?
I thought part of pre-production would be conducting a background check. hmmmm maybe it did and the producers made the brilliant call to let it be a big reveal on the show! Gotta love that reality TV!
Luscious, how come you don’t like Aubrey?!
I think he’s so good for Shalana…he’s like her, in that he’s nice enough, but boring. And I like that he seems to treat her with respect and affection, which is something the girl badly needs. The only thing is that she’s too pretty for him.
I tried to feel bad for Donna about how her date went, but all I could think about was poor Butler from a couple of weeks ago and how he probably didn’t care about her age or the fact that her ovaries are controlling her every move like a pair of demons from hell. He really seemed nice and she’s annoying as fuck, so I just could not feel sorry for her. But I’m also going to need Steve and his mom to vet their men better. Knowing what the guy is looking to get out of the date should be the first thing that they match the girls up on. For Danielle, a guy looking to have fun is perfect. For Donna, they need to be matching her up with men who are looking for a long-term relationship. They also need to find men who are into dating older women in a non-sugar mama way. I don’t like Donna and she gets on my last nerve, but I don’t like seeing her constantly being rejected over her age either.
chaosbutterfly, I get the feeling that Donna is one of those ladies who prefers to date younger men. I also get the feeling that Steve is setting her up with younger guys who don’t like older women to break her down a bit to make her more willing to give a chance to some 40-45 year old guy that he’s had in mind all along who she’d be crazy picky about if she wasn’t desperate to be liked when she met him.
Chaos, you and Novi should be on the production team. Nah, too smart and rational.
Speaking of smart and rational, ya read my mind, BSparks!
I did defend myself they edited the entire thing out! I gotten Divorced in December the producers knew, I didn’t get casted until January! They left out me saying im Divorced it was s!aid several Times. Steve is gay,he is a fraud and he Pimped us
Of course they knew she was married. Good drama Steve and mama. Way to get back at Tiffany for lying. Stephanie went back to that cotton candy lipstick. Yuck Stephanie. Hope John is not playing for the cameras and he really likes her.
Despina and Elizabeth need intensive therapy before they can be expected to behave normally when it comes to men and being in a relationship. Great that Steve is making them aware of their issues.
Luscious, thanks for another great recap.
It makes sense that Tiffany’s portion got edited out – the same thing happened in the reunion episode last season, where Jane didn’t even have a hot seat aired, but there really was one. Still if one has been married, one clearly has no trouble landing a man and doesn’t belong on the show. It’s not meant to be a matchmaking show – it’s supposed to teach dysfunctional women how to fix themselves in the hopes of finding love in the future.
There has been a lot of suspicion that Steve is gay, but frankly, I don’t think that would diminish his ability to counsel the women in how men think. Men are men, regardless of what kind of hole they like to stick it in. In fact, without the possibility of sexual tension and a hidden agenda, I think this only makes Steve a better fit to counsel these ladies.
As for pimping, voluntarily signing up for a show where you live in a mansion, get free room & board, jewels and gowns, etc. in exchange for being on TV doesn’t sound like pimping to me. There is another word for it, but I won’t go there.
Go gently into that good night, Tiffany.
Shit that is really you Tiffany? Did you really think they would show that to us? Hell no.
I don’t know, Tiffany…I call shenanigans on that answer because I don’t think they would punish you just for being divorced. Christine last year was divorced, and it wasn’t a problem.
She still married…. Ny state marriage records are sealed from background checks….. One of her friends called and snitched …. That’s why steves ammo was Facebook and not a marriage record. Her husband was married and had his wife and Tiffany pregnant at the same time. Tiffany jumped out of the bushes with a ski mask on and stabbed his pregnant wife….. She is a liar, money hungry lazy, no good violent lunatic……. True story again I’m just a friend of the family……
A family friend, there has to be a news story about this somewhere? Please provide proof because that is some pretty serious allegations you are making.
Yeah, we need to see receipts.
The thing is I NEVER told him producers knew, that’s why all they showed me saying is “why does that matter” along with “why does that matter that I didn’t tell you I was married before and at that time Divorced…
It amazes me how people think they know what goes on under my roof!
Stabbing was in 2001 and the women survived …. Her husband at the time and tiffany’s husband now begged his ex wife not to press charges ….. I really don’t care who believes it or not the bitch is crazy….. Hey Tiffany how is your husband doing? You haven’t mention the emergency open heart surgery he had 2 days before the show aired that you got the boot….. He almost died for god sakes but you still deny being married. Don’t worry sweety very soon you will be divorced with no kids….. Just what you wanted… By the way you humiliated your children shame on you!
@Tiffany Maiyon, if you told the producers then why didn’t you also tell Steve? And why would the producers know something like that, and not tell Steve until like the fourth episode?
This don’t make no kind of sense, and I’m giving you some serious side eye right about now. You need more people.
@A family friend, If that’s true, he’s foolish for marrying her. How do you marry someone who tried to kill the mother of your child? No ma’am.
We all ask him the same damn question…… Tiffany was also pregnant at the same time she stabbed the ex so If I remember correctly her excuse was uncontrollable hormones…… He had open heart surgery to days before her final appearance on the show…. The stress of it all. She also had a suicide attempt in December over her car getting repossessed…. You can not believe a word she says…. And yes Tiffany I do know what’s going on under your roof so let’s not go there….. Start telling the truth or your friends and family will keep snitching on you. Her husband really had no clue she was on a dating show until the first episode and as much as she is telling her fan base ” it’s edited they knew I was married and divorced” she keeps telling her husband ” it’s edited I told them the truth they knew I was married to you” ” they wanted me for rating’s” which is it tiff?
Tiffany goes on a dating boot camp show, where one of the goals is to meet a guy, and she doesn’t think it’s important to disclose that she’s MARRIED. What were you going to do if they never found out? Take him home and move him in? Her I.Q. can’t be more than double her age, and I’m being generous. Go the hell home and take care of your children. And please, for the love of God, DO NOT HAVE ANY MORE. You’re too ignorant to raise them.
Whoa! Was that really the Tiffany from the show commenting here? Or, is someone totally pulling our respective legs? Because it would be kind of awesome – in a blow ‘em up movie kind of way – if it really was her and if A Family Friend really was someone who knows her.
I always expect the awesome at TVGasm, but that would be like the deliciousness of that Toddlers and Tiaras comment war that happened last year.
Yeah Tiffany….it’s very easy for us to believe what you are saying now…seeing as how you LIED about EVERYTHING else from the moment you stepped onto the show. Come on….Divorce records are public……I’m pretty sure the producers would have easily been able to verify if you really were divorced. Stop…..please
@Luscious, I disagree with you about Steve’s being gay not having an impact on the show. There’s nothing a gay man offer a woman about how to be in a HETEROSEXUAL relationship! It completely undercuts his credibility. It’s similar to a discussion we’ve had on the Patti Stanger boards; she’s not married, has a busted up relationship, so how good of a matchmaker can she really be?
Steve, come out, come out, wherever you are!
I think that it’s fine Derek. Men speak with men differently than they speak with women, so while he may like men I am sure he has male friends and family member so he can speak on what men do and do not like.
Please baby jesus let that be the real Tiffany and a real family friend.
Tiffany…maybe the producers know things but leave it to you to tell the truth about your situation. LYING was one of the issues that you had and Steve kept asking you to be honest. The show is supposed to show women what they are to do to get a good man and keep them, so your lying was showcased from the first day. Since you were never honest about your MARRIAGE the producers finally told Steve the deal and so you got the boot. Sounds like you didn’t learn your lesson and we got some good television out of it.
This is a show for single women. That means women who are NOT married. Separated is still married.
@classy drunk, you make a good point about how men relate to men. I just think that it’s weird to have gay people (if Steve is gay) advising straight people on how to relate to one another. It’s my problem with Dan Savage; I generally love his advice, but a gay man telling a woman how to please her man always makes me cringe. It may just be a pet peeve of mine.
Write a comment…First off, I got way excited when I heard “Infinity Guitars” by Sleigh Bells at the beginning of this episode, and then was even happier that they used it again when Marnie heads to the coffee shop to talk to Ray…love that tune!
Anyway, as for the episode, I loved the Hannah/boss thing – I’ve totally seen scenarios almost exactly like that in the workplace, that totally hit home in an uncomfortable but hilarious way (I’ve actually been the Jessa in this scenario with friends..i know, i know…). Also, speaking of Jessa, I love her, and how she’s always good for a great line or two per episode, and I loved the “I did you a favor!” comment about the Vespa int his episode