Walking Dead Recap: No Justice, No Piece

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   timgunnssister
   Posted October 22, 2012 at 11:16 am

   I vote for giving Herschel Rose McGowans machine gun leg from Planet Terror. Probably not going to happen but it would be awesome.

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   timgunnssister
   Posted October 22, 2012 at 11:21 am

   Oh, and I wanna see Andrea and Road Warrior. How cool is it that she uses walkers as pack mules?

   And the ‘bad mayor’ (David Morrissey) of the town Andrea apparently ends up in IS ALSO BRITISH. Seriously? Rick, then Maggie now this guy? Is there a shortage of American actors?

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   timgunnssister
   Posted October 22, 2012 at 11:49 am

   Oy, I should wait to post until I’ve completed my thoughts.

   I think my favorite scene was when OO was talking to Rick on the outer walkway and saying what a crappy wife and mother she is then patiently waited for his strong rebuttal.

   Which never came. And I love the ‘we’ are glad you saved Herschel. Is that the royal we or just the ‘there’s you and the rest of us’ we? Either one works for me. And she looks like she’s smuggling a basketball. Worst fake pregnancy belly ever.

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   itchy
   Posted October 22, 2012 at 12:15 pm

   As I said, anytime Lori and Rick are in a scene along together, you can pretty much hear the life being sucked out of this show. Just in case the writers are listening in here: WE DON’T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT LORI! KILL HER OFF ALREADY!

   Also, just in case, in Night of the Living Dead, the black guy was the main character and level-headed hero and had all the best lines.

   At least Maggie’s looking pretty great, so there’s that.

   But as I was watching this episode, it slowly began to settle in that the show is going to be stuck in this prison for the entire fucking season. AGAIN. And not only that, but now we’ll have to suffer through some pointless war with another survivor group. Ugh.

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   thespiral
   Posted October 22, 2012 at 12:40 pm

   It’s not Romero’s fault! At least TWO movies in his trilogy featured black protagonists (which was very new in 1968.) I blame the writers, who seem to think it’s unnecessary to include black characters as anything other than cannon fodder, in a show set in and around ATLANTA FREAKIN’ GEORGIA, based on a comic book series with tons of black characters! It’s one of the more stupid and ridiculous elements of a show that already has too many stupid and ridiculous elements.

   Also, I was incredibly disappointed when Herschel didn’t eat Lori’s face off in this episode. She barely got any screen time and she STILL managed to:
   1) Make Rick’s moral dilemma all about her and her shittiness as a wife/mother.
   2) Humiliate her son in front of everyone after he did something useful. Maybe she was jealous because she’s never done anything useful?
   3) Not go after her son to see if he’s okay after she humiliates him and he runs off alone into a PRISON full of ZOMBIES. Stupid bitch.

   The writers need to make Lori’s death as gory, insane, and horrific as possible, if only to make amends for three seasons of insufferable bitching, unsightly anorexia, and complete uselessness. Death by cannibal zombie fetus? I can live with that.

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   thespiral
   Posted October 22, 2012 at 12:42 pm

   It’s not Romero’s fault! At least TWO movies in his trilogy featured black protagonists (which was very new in 1968.) I blame the writers, who seem to think it’s unnecessary to include black characters as anything other than cannon fodder, in a show set in and around ATLANTA FREAKIN’ GEORGIA, based on a comic book series with tons of black characters! It’s one of the more stupid and ridiculous elements of a show that already has too many stupid and ridiculous elements.

   Also, I was incredibly disappointed when Herschel didn’t eat Lori’s face off in this episode. She barely got any screen time and she STILL managed to:
   1) Make Rick’s moral dilemma all about her and her shittiness as a wife/mother.
   2) Humiliate her son in front of everyone after he did something useful. Maybe she was jealous because she’s never done anything useful?
   3) Not go after her son to see if he’s okay after she humiliates him and he runs off alone into a PRISON full of ZOMBIES. I guess she’s just taking this “shitty mother” thing and running all the way with it, eh? Stupid bitch.

   The writers need to make Lori’s death as gory, insane, and horrific as possible, if only to make amends for three seasons of insufferable bitching, unsightly anorexia, and complete uselessness. Death by cannibal zombie fetus? I can live with that.

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   Ed
   Posted October 22, 2012 at 1:25 pm

   I’m obviously alone here, but I like what I’ve seen from Laurie so far, fake pregnant belly aside. In the first episode she fully admitted to manipulating Rick and knew she was horrible for it. In this episode she assures Rick that she doesn’t think he’s a malicious person and he can do what he has to do to protect the group and do it with a clear conscious. Laurie’s getting some good stuff so far and it does bother me a bit, though I do understand, that people just hate her so blindly that they won’t see it.

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   itchy
   Posted October 22, 2012 at 1:35 pm

   For me, it’s more along the lines of : We’re in the middle of a zombie-fucking-apocalypse! Why are they wasting all of this time on their stupid marital problems? Who the fuck cares?

   Rick gets a pass because he’s usually in the middle of all the action scenes. But what does this Lori character do other than suck the life out of all the action?

   At least the Carol character has undergone a pretty interesting transformation since the first season. But the Lori character was dead in the water from the get-go. She might have been better if she’d been played by a decent actress. But this stick figure acts like she’s literally made out of wood.

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   Sugarbush
   Posted October 22, 2012 at 1:42 pm

   @Itchy & TheSpiral – You’re right, but just remember that the fantastic, badass black protagonist got killed at the very end. It was a tease back in the days before they even knew it was a tease. Those of us who watched it for the first time decades later were rooting for the black guy to make it to the end and, just as you’re cheering that he survived, BOOM. Dead.

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    anniedawg25
    Posted October 22, 2012 at 2:36 pm

    If we are stuck in the prison for the rest of the season, I will just assume its because the show is following exactly what the comic did. But you know what happens when you assume? Haha.
    For anyone who has read the comic up until this point…..Has the show followed true to form?

    I am looking forward to this season…..but what I am wondering, will there ever be any flashbacks to what happened for that whole time Rick was in the coma? Not to pull a “Lost” but I am curious to see how the zombie virus got out, how everyone reacted, etc. It all kinda just went away afer CDC guy blew himself up.

    Ok back to Snark time:
    When TDogg got his first line of the ep, I liked how he just kinda appeared from nowhere, off to the left side and randomly had something to say. Poor actor who plays TDogg.
    I like they killed the prisoners….they aint got time for any asshole strangers! I wonder if Herschel wonders if he shoulda killed Rick And Co too……all hell broke loose when they appeared on his farm.
    Once again Maggie and Glenn are the power couple…love it. I wonder if Lori is gonna have a mini Shane zombie baby?

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    ohralphie
    Posted October 22, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    I don’t think Lori has redeemed herself. I still see shades of Lady MacBeth there — and ‘joking’ aside, I think there is lingering animosity between Lori and Carol by the undertones during their exchange. All you ladies out there should know what I am talking about, it is the same ‘joking’ that women do to the skank/bitch in their lives. We’ve all been there. “wow, are you really going to eat all that?” BITCH “yeah, I’m hungry today” WHORE

    Anyhoo, I couldn’t understand why Rick went after the runner prisoner so damn hard. Was he being aggressive? It seemed to me that the prisoners were scared of capt. cholo and probably glad that he was dead.

    But I have to say that I love how this season is working out, and I’m a little afraid that the switch to militia town will be boring by comparison. Like Revolution.

    Great recap btw and I’m so impressed by how fast you got this up! I can’t wait to read your future recaps.

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    featherhead
    Posted October 22, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    No wonder Carl is such a little prick -would it have killed Lori to say Thank You? Loved watching the prisoners go buck wild on the zombies right after they were told how to actually kill a zombie. Best line of the night – “no more of this prison riot shit” hope I quoted correctly. Also loved “I’m a terrible wife and mother”. “You’re not a terrible mother”. Lol!

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    LastCall
    Posted October 22, 2012 at 3:08 pm

    Ed, you’re not totally alone. I’m giving Lori a chance for redemption, and she seems to be getting a more positive edit this season…at least I hope so. I like the actress who plays Lori and think she’s always done her best in a pretty much thankless job. Anyway, now that Lori is dealing with the fact that her husband (and son and everyone else ) hates her, and the fact that she may be carrying a zombie baby and has a good chance of dying in childbirth, or even better, becoming a zombie mom, I find it a little easier not to hate her so much. It’s good to see all these people toughen up and learn to just survive at any cost, but I like the character development and the holding-onto-their-humanity angles too.

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    Miss Molly
    Posted October 22, 2012 at 3:48 pm

    I love the skinny red headed prisoner He had the best lines.
    – We don’t have no affiliation to what just happened.
    – I like my pharmaceuticals …but I’m no killer.

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    plockeness monster
    Posted October 22, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    I think the scenes with Lori were more for us Lori haters – kind if like an inside joke. Lori FINALLY admitted how shitty of a person she is. Carl wandered off for the MILLIONTH time and Lori’s all “Hey Carl. Whatcha doin? Haven’t seen you in about, 4 hours.” And the cruelest joke of all, Lori not getting her face eaten off by a zombie Hershel.

    Rick continues to be a total fucking bad ass by machete-ing (my own word) that ass clown’s head in 2.

    I think the prisoners were kind of a filler story. The three major threats were killed. The group might run into the other 2 later (I have a feeling they’ll have a run in with Darryl) but I find it interesting when the core group finds out what is happening with other survivors/what their perspective is on the walker situation

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    plockeness monster
    Posted October 22, 2012 at 8:15 pm

    I feel like when Maggie told glen he could go with Carol, she was really saying she would kill Hershel if she had to.

    I hope when continue to get gross zombie mutilation for the rest of the season. 1st episode one of the gang ripped of a guard walker’s mask and his face peels off. Episode 2 gave us the zombie ripping of his hand cuffs and his entire hand as well.

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    Katya
    Posted October 22, 2012 at 9:01 pm

    The nail-biting edge-of-my-seat action in the first 2 eps really makes up for the draggy drama of last season. Ho-lee cow.

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    thespiral
    Posted October 23, 2012 at 4:05 am

    @ Ed -
    Did you just start watching this season? Because the Lori hate is hardly blind; she’s been awful since the beginning of the show, which is why she’s the most hated character now. The fact that she’s finally acknowledging how much she sucks doesn’t really redeem her after two whole seasons of being rude, selfish and useless. And I don’t blame the actress – I found her quite likeable in Prison Break. The character is just being written as extremely unsympathetic; sometimes I think the writers have done this on purpose, so they can (MILD SPOILER) follow through with her ugly fate in the comics without angering fans.

    @ Sugarbush -

    One of Romero’s directorial trademarks is his highly bleak and nihilistic endings. I do think he deliberately threw that ending in to show that even after the apocalypse, the same racial/police brutality dynamics exist. Which is more depressing than zombies when you think about it.

    And overall, this season seems WAY better than the others. More polished, tenser writing, more zombie violence and less long, weepy, poorly acted monologues. Me gusta!

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    April
    Posted October 23, 2012 at 5:23 am

    I bet it was Merle watching Carol.

    Great episode. I kinda had respect for crazy Mexican dude because he did take out Big Tiny quickly and that is what you got to do. I am also sad that Big Tiny was such a pussy. He could have ripped a zombie apart with his bare hands and a guy like that could be useful. He seemed nice too.

    I feel Rick was too harsh on the other black guy that ran. He probably just ran because he figured they are killing him next. He could have gone into the block with the others. No reason for Rick to be that hardcore. Damn. The comic played things out differently with the prisoners. I can’t decide which way I like better. This show seems very anti to get more characters. They pretty much take on only a few new characters and then some die but don’t like constantly adding to the group the way the comic did.

    I love your hate for OO. Love it! Keep it coming! Yeah not doing Mouth to mouth on a potential zombie. Maybe chest compressions but that would be it.

    My husband said it would have been funny to have Carl reach in the bag and pull out one of those things the paramedics use for CPR with the thing you squeeze for the breath part behind OO as she was doing the mouth to mouth and be like “Damn Mom you are such a twat!”

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    April
    Posted October 23, 2012 at 5:26 am

    Oh and my BFF made a great comment about how they picked a super anorexic looking zombie to be OO in practice because you know………pretty good match there!

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    April
    Posted October 23, 2012 at 5:30 am

    I think the prisoners attacking the zombies was the writers doing the whole Leroy Jenkins thing. They stand there talking about “Okay this is how you kill them. We are going to stay in tight group, don’t break formation blah blah blah blah blah” and then the prisoners are like “Okay let’s do this LEEEEROOOOOYY YJENNKIIIINNNNS!” I was laughing so hard.

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    itchy
    Posted October 23, 2012 at 6:33 am

    The difference between the comix and the television show is that in the comix, adding characters just requires more ink. On a television show, they have to pay the actors. Unless it’s a Scientology project, of course.

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    plockeness monster
    Posted October 23, 2012 at 6:54 am

    OMG April! I bet you’re right!! It was Merle watching Carol.

    I wish we knew how far the prison was from where this safe little town is (where Andrea ends up on the next ep).

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    itchy
    Posted October 23, 2012 at 7:02 am

    It’s going to be really interesting seeing how Darryl responds to Merle — bet Darryl ends up killing Merle, to hammer the final nail into his redemption story (after which, he finally gets a bit of Carol love?).

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    April
    Posted October 23, 2012 at 7:57 am

    I agree Itchy, I bet Daryl has to kill Merle to save Carol or something. He might actually have to show he has feelings! Win!

    My husband argued Daryl was not a neo Nazi just because his brother was. I don’t know. But he rocks now and I am Team Daryl all the way! He is such a bad ass and cute too.

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    Mimo
    Posted October 23, 2012 at 8:19 am

    Couple of points – I don’t think the Mexican dude killing Big Tiny had anything to do with Tiny turning into a zombie. It was an easy excuse for him to commit murder (and grisly murder at that). He sure seemed to enjoy it.

    If I had to pick a side on the Lori issue – I guess I would be on the hater’s side. Mostly because she hopped into bed with Shane just days after finding out her husband was dead. Bitch! However, I would have beat Carl’s ass to within an inch of his life when he came back with the medical supplies. I know he’s proving to be a little bad ass, but he’s still a kid and when the “grown ups” are told to stay in groups – I sorta think that means little kids too. (Besides, I’m still mad at him for getting what’s his name killed)

    I’ve been trying to figure out the point of the armless zombies. Someone earlier, or maybe on the mini referred to them as pack mules, but I don’t recall seeing them carry anything. Have I missed something?

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    April
    Posted October 23, 2012 at 8:28 am

    The armless zombies are used as pack mules. She has them wearing back packs to carry her stuff. Since I have a bad back, I find it INGENIOUS! I would totally do it. They also keep the smell down so that other zombies don’t notice her as much. The rest I won’t say because it might be spoilers.

    I also am in the Carl should not wonder around alone camp. Now sure, teach him to be a bad ass. But don’t let him clear rooms alone, don’t let him wander around alone. My friends and I have intricate zombie survival plans and one of those involve tying the children to us much like the zombies are tied to Michonne. They are not going to wander off that way now will they? My husband has the “Stay in the house Carl!” shirt they sold at Hot Topic.
    When you are battling zombies no one should be going out alone period. You need at least one person to watch your back at all times.

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    plockeness monster
    Posted October 23, 2012 at 8:55 am

    I think Daryl did have similar beliefs to his brother, but after time with Rick’s group, he’s done a complete 180, and now he’s Rick’s right hand man – which I love!

    I completely agree about Carl not wondering around alone, but 1 – it’s basically a running joke on the show now, and 2 – Rick sat Carl down at the end of last season and basically told him he was going to have to grow up a lot sooner than he or his mother wanted him to because they are living in a zombie apocalypse. Rick talked to him like an adult and has continued to do so.

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    Sugarbush
    Posted October 23, 2012 at 9:44 am

    @April – Thank you for your Leroy Jenkins comment!! I thought the same thing, but I was afraid no one would know what I was talking about! LOVE IT.

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    itchy
    Posted October 23, 2012 at 9:56 am

    Ha! Maybe this season will revolve around Carl going missing, then the group spending the next seven or eight episodes looking for him/waiting around for him/ while Lori and Rick talk about their ‘relationship,’ only for them to discover that Carl had turned into a zombie and was right there among them all along.

    Now THAT would make a compelling season!

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    sweetblondie
    Posted October 23, 2012 at 12:13 pm

    Oh, I loves me some Boondock Darryl…he makes me swoon! Yeah, I like dirty, badass, ex-racists okay? Don’t judge me…

    And just that little “sorry about your friends” line…just…fantastic.

    I actually feel really badly for those two cons living alone…what an awful fate. I hope we see them again…

    WHO WAS WATCHING CAROL?

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    yeknom
    Posted October 23, 2012 at 1:49 pm

    LOVE. Daryl. So. Much. He gives me the vapors.

    Kinda loving bad ass Rick too.

    Lorie sucks, but I am glad that Hershel’s daughter told him to not talk to his mother that way, only because I am horrified when children speak to their mothers that way. Then again, I respect my mother and was taught to not speak to her that way and know she would’ve knocked me on my ass if I talked to her that way…so there you go. It is kind of rich that now Lorie wants to keep tabs on her kid when she didnt before.

    I’m glad Hershel didnt die or become a walker. I might be more upset than when Dale died.

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    labowner
    Posted October 23, 2012 at 4:17 pm

    Threadjack – Andrew Lincoln and Lauren Cohen were both on the Nerdist Podcast recently if you care to listen. Chris Hardwick (Nerdist) hosts Talking Dead which takes place after the show airs.

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    itchy
    Posted October 24, 2012 at 12:28 am

    That’d be CohAn, not CohEn. Irish not Jewish (although since she’s a US-born actress faking a British accent, possibly she faked the spelling too). But you should know that there are No Jews Allowed in the sci-fi universe. It’s not fair (and unrealistic, since if anyone’s going to survive the post-apocalypse, it’d be a jew) but for some reason screenwriters (who are mostly jewish?) never think they’ll make it.

    Well, okay, there’s Spock. Sort of.

    Other people missing from the sci-fi universe: Wimpy white christian guys. Homely women. Any homosexual. Well, other than Sulu.

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    timgunnssister
    Posted October 24, 2012 at 9:44 am

    She’s not faking that accent – she was born in the US, but, like Mel Gibson, grew up elsewhere. In her case, Britain, hence the accent. Mel Gibson’s Aussie accent was so thick they had to dub him in Mad Max because no one but another Aussie could understand him.

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    labowner
    Posted October 24, 2012 at 1:09 pm

    Itchy you should have hit delete after writing that out. Douche you are.

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    April
    Posted October 24, 2012 at 6:29 pm

    timgunnssister: My hubby has a boy crush on Mel Gibson so I found this movie with a very young Mel in it in the $5 bin at Walmart. So we tried to watch it. It was an Australian movie and yeah could not understand any of them at all.

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    Bluedog
    Posted October 25, 2012 at 4:33 am

    April our Aussie accent is very easy to understand. Unlike some of your southern and redneck people on Toddlers and Tiaras and those reality programmes about shootin, driving, eating road kill, couponing, bathing in mud and having babies by all of your cousins.

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    plockeness monster
    Posted October 25, 2012 at 7:01 am

    Whoa. It’s getting hostile in here.

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    itchy
    Posted October 25, 2012 at 7:38 am

    ‘Scuse me, labowner? After writing what? I’m guessing it was something you don’t like? Hard to know from the evenness of your tone. Must have been something really awful. Oh deary.

    Anyhoo…

    @timgunssister, my understanding is that the actress left the States to go to university there — but maybe she left when she was still a kid. That’d make a difference.

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    timgunnssister
    Posted October 25, 2012 at 8:00 am

    Itchy, I think I read it was when she was a child. If it occurs during speech formative years, it’s tough to shake. Now, when Madonna does it, well…….that’s just stupid.

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    timgunnssister
    Posted October 25, 2012 at 8:04 am

    Bluedog, most Aussie accents are absolutely easy to understand – as are many British. However, my old Southern ears struggle with them a bit. I watch ‘Copper’ on the BBC and have to caption it. I realize it’s not like they’re speaking French or someother language I can’t speak but geez – without the captioning I lose about every 3rd word.

    And Mel Gibsons adopted accent was the thickest I’ve ever heard – I suspect he may have been putting on a bit. But they did have to dub his dialogue for the US release of his first couple of movies. Then I think they got him a coach.

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    maryedith
    Posted November 5, 2012 at 8:33 pm

    You do know there are British Jews, right?

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    maryedith
    Posted November 5, 2012 at 8:35 pm

    It’s starting to seem that there are no American tv actors, however.

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    sarcasatire
    Posted May 1, 2013 at 2:00 am

    It isn’t lost on me that the first season that Black people show up is the one that they film in a prison.

    And no, T-Dog doesn’t count. It’s a running joke that poor guy gets 2 lines per episode. (Someone get T-dog a SAG card!) And the camera isn’t even trained on him at the time. I have a feeling he’s not long for this world. No character arc? On screen presence only shown in glimpses? Who are you, Jacki at the CDC?! She had barely any lines all semster, acted like a(n unsympathetic sourpuss) and when she decided on suicide, Dale didn’t feel the need to talk HER out of it. So, yea, expendable. T-Dog, too. And any of the Black prisoers, I presume. Hopefully Mishonne stays a while. She’s bad ass and while she has just a few lines, she gets most of the close-ups per episode. Looking angry and bewildered, yes, but we connect to her..unlike the way they photograph Lori and Carol. Plus, girl is amazing with a sword! Kill zombies AND keep quiet…take that, Carl and your silencer!

    Carl’s hat is a costume designer’s way of hoping we ascribe some authority to him before the season’s end. He’s a \man\ now, after all. These days, all that requires is a gun and a cynical outlook. Oh, and a penchant for disappearing. But do come back with supplies! All is forgiven.

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    itchy
    Posted May 1, 2013 at 2:46 am

    Oh my gosh, the recaps are rising from the dead! Run away! Run away!

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    sarcasatire
    Posted May 1, 2013 at 7:52 am

    I may be late, but my love for the show is spreading like Wildfire.

    (sorry, couldn’t help myself…lol! I’m corny and I don’t care who knows it! The plus side is that I refrained from commenting on every recap I’ve read so far. Believe me, I was tempted… )

    Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’m heading to Myrtle Manor to find Darryl so we can wed. So in the future, While the rest of you fight off zombies, I’m gonna be munching on squirrel.