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Monday, March 21, 2011
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Mini caps of Celeb Apprentice and Big Love
Celebrity Apprentice
I can usually handle a couple of Apprentice episodes a year. Any more than that and I am reaching for a cheap ass Bic pen to poke my eyes out. This Celeb season, though? Can’t get enough. When the credits rolled last night and the scenes from next week began, I was cackling a really low evil giggle and whooping my fist in the air like it was the 80′s and Arsenio still had a career. GREAT episode, and it looks like it’s just gonna keep getting better.
We started with Gary Busey trying to ask Lil’ Jon nicely to not hurt his feelings. Does anyone else want to pat Gary on the head and whisper “now, now, my sweet. You’re the most popular girl in school”?? I am falling in love with him. Lil’ Jon was having none of it, though, and the argument turned into a “you ah!” match in seconds. Then Meatloaf got in on the action. Gary wanted apologies from everyone, but those guys pretty much hate his crazy ass. Meat is a pussy fighter, and instead of using logic and sense, he argues by saying “shhh. You’re pointing at me.” Go cry about it you wuss!
On the girls’ team, NeNe opened by telling Starr straight up that she’s a bossy bitch and she shouldn’t try to be leader on challenges that she’s not leader on. To her credit, Starr took this in and said that she would work on that. NeNe laughed “no you won’t. You’re Starr Jones.” LOL! And of course, she was right. NeNe may not be the most talented or intelligent of the cast, but if she’s well versed in anything, it’s crazy bitches. She is one, after all, and she knows it. I am going to love watching her. Especially next week when she cries. You done me WRONG, Starr!
The challenge was to showcase campers, and there were insanely over inflated egos, a super sweet moment with Marlee giving Busey his hearing back (did I squeeze out some salties? Kinda), and a great fight with Country almost smacking down Jose Canseco for calling his fans hicks. “Don’t challenge the intelligence of my audience!” Yeah, cuz challenges are also called tests, and hicks really hate tests. And if your fans are so smart then how come your brilliant theme song rhymed “world” with “boys and girls”? That guy came up with a hundred rhymes in five minutes, and they were all well below fifth grade reading levels. Speaking of bad grammar, did Starr really say “I am one of the loyalist people my friends know”?? YES. Yes she did. I love that Starr thinks her shit don’t stink cuz she was a lawyer. Bitch, please. Learn to talk.
There was so much goodness here. NeNe saying that she’s never camped because “I’m black. I never even slept outside!”, Old Bitch Dionne walking around the camper store staring at shit and then getting mad because she didn’t have a clue about what was going on around her, Busey explaining his positive anagrams… too…much…to cover. You know you’ve got a brilliant season on your hands when LaToya is the most valuable player of the night! Can’t wait to see what DearCrabby has to say about this episode. To check out her hilarious recap of last week’s epi, click here.
Big Love
I know that a lot of us watch these HBO shows long after they air. If you are one of those people, you should not read any further and avoid the comments section! I will be discussing the end of the series, and there were some doozies here.
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Are you gone? OK good. Let’s go. The final season of Big Love has really taken us for a ride. The past couple of years have been uneven at best, but I have enjoyed every minute of this show. The acting is spot on, the dialogue is pretty hilarious, and the plot twists (for better and worse) have never failed to surprise me. Last night was no different.
The season opened with Bill and The Wives dealing with coming out of the closet to the voters of Utah the second Bill was elected to be senator. It’s been nothing but shit being piled on the characters ever since, and it’s been a little painful to watch. I love these people, and watching them fall apart has hurt! In the end, though, they always prevail, right? Always! I clung to the hope that somehow this would all be resolved in a way that would leave the family safe. Even if we couldn’t see them every week, we would be confident knowing that they were ok out there in someone’s imagination.
Not this time. Bill got himself in such a pickle that there was no way to resolve it. About to be arrested for statutory rape, taken away from the family, and kicked out of the senate? How in the hell are they gonna tie this up in an hour? Well, they took the easy way out and killed his ass.
The wives had all come to a point where continuing on the way things were wasn’t going to happen. Barb went all polygafeminist and wanted priesthood rights, which wasn’t gonna please Bill. That marriage? Done. Margene was ready to take a volunteer cruise to help the impoverished, she was so desperate to get the hell out of there. That marriage? Done. Nikki is Nikki, so that marriage would have been done if Bill had been stuck with just her. One of the things that kept us coming back for more was watching these relationships make it against all odds. If that wasn’t going to happen, then what was the point in investing the time?
Not only did Bill get killed, he was killed by the husband of Margene’s friend who went coocoo for Gogi, Margie’s pyramid scheme dream. So Margie was responsible for the police going after Bill (because she lied about her age when she got married) and also brought about Bill’s demise by leading her friend down a Gogi path that led to divorce. Margie couldn’t catch a break this season. The only one who really came out on top was Bill’s mom, who finally got her way when her husband finally showed some love and put her out of her misery. The most positive moment of the episode was assisted suicide. Um…thanks?
In the end, the wives figured out a way to live their lives the way they wanted and go on without Bill. It was kind of a cop out ending, but it was one that will leave me thinking for a long time to come. And if it makes you feel any better, at least Barb got a Mini Cooper out of the deal. I’ll miss you Big Love!
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NeNe is right…black folks dont camp. Its one of those things that’s a rite of passage for most whites but no so much for black folks. Just like backpacking across Europe, playing tennis and golf. Those activities, while some blacks participate, is not the norm for black culture. I am not saying this as a stereotype or judgement, just observation. It was even talked about on an Oprah episode this season. I dont watch Oprah but saw it on the Behind the Scenes show where a black park ranger had wrote in asking her to promote camping so more blacks would participate…which is ridiculous because black folks are not Oprah’s target audience (let’s try middle age white women).
Backpacking across Europe? I don’t know any white folks who have ever done that. Backpacked in Yellowstone, yes. Backpacked in the Smoky Mountains…yup. Europe…nope.
@2hyper: I saw the episode on Oprah where she and Gayle went to Yosemite and found only two Black people, one being the ranger, and the other guy camping with his Caucasian wife. Oprah was so excited, she brought them onto her show, lol!
As far as backpacking across Europe, not too many white people do that either..not too many Americans, rather. Europeans, South Africans, Israeli, Aussie, yes..but White Americans backpacking are few and far between, although the numbers seem to be rising. (I used to work as a tour guide in South America and in a year, I only had one American in my group, and he was actually born in India). However, we Americans of all races have much in common when it comes to travel. You know where White and Black Americans like to travel most? The Caribbean! On a cruise! See, we’re more alike than we’re different..
Sports and their popularity seem to be relevant to geographical regions and disposable income. Golf is something that needs to be done in large green areas and many minorites live in the bigger cities, where golfing (and greenery) is non-existent. They’d have to travel to the suburbs and beyond to find a golf course. However, a basketball court is most likely right around the corner. Go figure! Sports are more defined by wealth and access, rather than race. Well-off men of all races play golf, and well off women of all races play tennis. That’s how it is my family and most people I know. Seems more a class thing than a racial one. I mean, investing in golf clubs, traveling out to the courses, paying a club membership isn’t cheap. Neither are tennis lessons. However, that basketball court around the corner? Free.
Now, camping is equal opportunity, but Black people aren’t really into it as many I know think it would be a very dirty experience, myself included. Sure, we’ll rent a cabin in the Poconos, or go camping with an RV (which we don’t consider camping in the literal sense), but it’s the idea of staying in a tent, being easily accessible to animals, boiling lake water to cook with, and not having a working toilet that used to freak me out. Then I went to South America and had to sleep in a ‘lodge’ in the middle of the Amazon, which resulted in me getting very dirty, mosquito bitten, and stung by venomous ants. So, while I was miserable, I now feel up for anything. So, who wants to go camping? (You bring the tent, I’ll bring the air mattress, portable fans, and bottled water):)
I used to do quite a bit of backpacking and camping. Did it all over the US, but not in any other countries. But I do know Americans who did it in Europe and New Zealand (or maybe it was Australia?). But they weren’t exactly “middle America” types. They were people who backpacked a lot in general. So that was their thing to do when they travelled. I don’t do much of the outdoor stuff anymore. Now I am more oriented to historic fashion. So lots of times when I travel, that is what I do. I went to Paris just to see a clothing exhibition. Sorry, I got off on a tangent. Anyway, my point was that I don’t think it is so much a race thing as a class thing or perhaps a culture thing. For example, I knew more people in San Francisco (of all races) who were into the nature experience (hiking, camping, etc) than I did in New York City or Boston. Just different cultures.
But that definitely is a stereotype… black people don’t camp!
San Francisco is surrounded by nature..that coincides with the point I made about sports/hobbies being more a matter of what is accessible geographically. Not a lot of opportunities to hike in NYC. Or in Boston. Therefore, you will see more city-oriented hobbies/sports.
I find that Black people travel to relax/getaway (on a Caribbean cruise!) and most of my Black friends would NEVER stay in a hostel. Backpacking is definitely a state of mind. I’ve done it plenty of times and I don’t mind staying in a hostel, I welcome it in fact, especially if I’m backpacking solo as I did for 2 months in Costa Rica and was desperate to meet some English speaking people. Of course, the life of a backpacker is not quite a relaxing vacation, as one really does travel on a small budget in order to travel for as long as possible, and that means a compromise in comfort, at times. Most of my friends are like, if I pay to go to London, I’m staying in a nice hotel for a week. Then, I’ll go home and see Paris on the next trip. I did Europe this way, too..so I’m not complaining. I wish I knew then what I know now..I’d have been backpacking in a minute!
Black people do camp..in RVs. We do all the same outdoor activities; hiking, fishing, swimming, etc, then retire to our RV with it’s bed, stocked fridge, and working toilet. Who wants to camp out in a tent, drenched in the urine of one animal to ward off attacks of another animal, all the while digging shallow graves in which to poop? Is toilet paper littering? Or does one nail a plastic bag to a tree for everyone’s shit smeared Charmin? Does one shower? is bringing a bar of soap into the lake with you an act of environmental terrorism? So many questions we need asked! You’re right..Black people don’t camp…like that. Not that there’s anything wrong with hardcore camping, but it does require a particular mindset. A mindset that requires you to not be particular, lol.
Thanks Flipit for mentioning Big Love. I love the show and am very sad to see it end. I won’t lie I cried. I too was sure it would end perfectly with the Hendricks family “winning.” I hastily predicted that he would become this rich and famous evangelist. Wrong! Margene really grated on my nerves this season. Loved that Sarah came back if only for 2 minutes and loved and cried when Barb held Nikki. Thanks for the mini cap!
I would rather pee in the woods than sit my ass, or hover, over a toilet seat that some stranger has been sitting on…
Robin
Robin, I have a phobia about outhouses. Once I was camping in one of the canyons that make up the Grand Canyon. We hiked down, stayed 2 weeks and then hiked out. The only thing at the bottom of the canyon where we camped was a water faucet thing (which was attached to a natural spring) and a wooden outhouse. One day, there was a rattlesnake in there. It traumatized me for life!
Guess you’ve never been to a hotel? Or haven’t been advised on the benefits of traveling with lysol and ajax, when staying anywhere overnight. Heck, I’m gonna take your statement literally and imagine you only pee at home or against trees. Must limit the amount of things you can do and places you can see…
I worked as a maid at a national hotel chain while in jr/sr high and I will tell you that the blankets were NEVER changed on those beds in the 3 years I worked there. Hell, there were many times when we would just remake the beds for the next guest.
I shudder to think at the hotel hygiene karma coming back at me.
Thus I prefer to camp in my camper that has its very own toilet. I will use public toilets, but only if I absolutely have to. I have no problem using public campground showers though…..
@Snootchy’ traveling for historic fashion sounds like a fun idea. I like hearing the reasons people like to travel. I like to travel for language and cultural immersion, my brother, for footie. He recently went to London just for an Arsenal game! And of course, to tour the stadium and buy a T-shirt. He is American, after all.
We also travel for language and the cultural aspects. In fact, we are visiting Denmark and The Netherlands next month.
We went to The Netherlands last spring to see the tulips, but this will be my first visit to Denmark. I’m very excited! We are going on a big trip in the fall. It is our 10th wedding anniversary and we were planning on going to Egypt, but I don’t see that happening with everything going on.
Ohralphie, I saw this show a long while back (maybe 15 years?) and they took one of those black light things that show body fluids into hotels. GROSS! Ever since, I will use a towel to remove the blankets/comforters from the bed as soon as I get into the hotel room.
Feeling kind of sick here thinking about ohralphie’s comment. And now we also have to worry about bed bugs which have appeared in extremely nice hotels!
No, I have never been to a hotel..Geesh..
Robin
I said I would “rather”. Why don’t you just go take a hike.
Robin
Snooty, That would scare the piss out of me… I wouldn’t need to worry about finding another place to go! lol
TC, Robin
Holland is great for the culture but we didn’t learn much Dutch because everyone was only too happy to speak to us in english. So, besides the difference between a straat and a gracht(sp?), I didn’t learn much, lol.
Yea, Egypt may not be the best idea for romance amidst civil unrest. But there’s always Morrocco. Or Tunisia. Went to Mor as a child but I wanna return as an adult and indulge on the food, fabrics, and spa treatments. Oh, and possibly a bit of hashish. You know, for the cultural aspect. *ahem*
I would take a hike but the idea of you in the woods would make me a little too paranoid about watching where I step.
I always take off the generic blanket from the hotel bed. But not changing the sheets? That’s just gross. Atleast in hostels, the unoccupied beds are stripped and they hand you fresh sheets and towels for you to select and make your own bed. Of course, some backpackers are a little lax on the hygiene so who knows whether or not their head lice may jump from their bunk to yours. I guess no adventure is without its risks! Haha
Nobody drops trou in the middle of a hiking trail. But you already knew that. ..
@sarcasatire: change your screen name. You are neither.
Hi berlyn! I love seeing new posters around here, especially those, like yourself, who have such amazing things to contribute. If there’s anything we love at the ‘Gasm, it’s witty and enlightening posts. You’ll make a great addition indeed, just keep cranking out those gems!
Sarcas, I love you. And by no means ever change your name or anything else about you. I think we already know some people can’t help but have to disagree with anything and everything you have to say. I’m not black, however I share the exact same sentiments about camping as you. In fact I went on a camping trip with my church youth group when I was 14 and my friend Alison and I straight up refused to sleep outside in a tent and they gave us a quite lovely camper for just the two of us instead.
It funny how things about race have to be contested. Oh no no black people do do (HA!) this or no no white people do that. There are cultural difference between different races, may they be black, white, Hispanic, Italian, etc. It really is ok. The difference between the cultures/races is what makes meeting new people so interesting in this country and many others. It’s probably much easier to explain why a certain culture/race doesn’t do something (in general, I am sure there are black people who camp, golf, and play tennis)rather than act like that’s not out there.
Geez, who thunk that NeNe’s dumb country ass comments would be taken as the Gospel of Black Folks?
I have played, tennis, swam since the age of 6 (competitvely through high school) and have trecked through the woods (but with the thought of Jason Vorehees in the back of my mind). I do not like camping not because I am black, but because every bug in the woods is in love with me, because I need my flat iron plugged into something, and because they filmed the Blair Witch Project in my state. Seriously, it is really not my thing. But give me some scuba gear and a boat and I could be very happy.
And ohralphie, you made my skin crawl – LOL!!!
Bear in mind that I was 14-17 when I worked at the ‘Vacation Hotel’ hinthint and didn’t really understand the concept of sex happening between the sheets that I would (as was trained to) remake between guests.
But yes, the blankets and comforters never get washed or changed until they redecorate the entire hotel. Which happens every five years or so. When I do stay at a hotel I always bring in a huge can of Lysol and hose the place down.
I couldn’t buy the ending of Big Love. They’d been building Bill up as this silver-tongued, maybe-profit for a while, so I guess it wasn’t so far fetched that he got martyred. (He probably even found that satisfying in a way. (Except for the bleeding out in the street part…)
I did NOT buy that the wives would have stayed together. The show’s spent years showing us how little these three women have in common except Bill. As Flipit pointed out, Barb outgrew it last season, Margene was outgrowing it this season, and only on THIS SHOW would Nicki not be locked in a cage and fed with a stick. I feel like there’s no way in hell that, without Bill constantly mediating and pulling the “we’re meant to be a familily in the great hereafter” card, would the sane wives not flee at maximum velocity from the batshit wife as soon as they were free.
I don’t think the strength they supposedly drew from each other was a real as Bill (or the show) would have us believe. That strength had been undermined too many times over the history of the show, do to all of their actions.
And I feel like that should have been their reward. Bill’s death should have freed them. Not from Mormonism or polygamy, but from Bill’s well-meaning but definitely controlling hand. But they didn’t get that. They got to spend the rest of their lives with Nicki’s bitchface. Barb and Margene oughta ask for a recount!
And that’s the best Gary Busey’s looked in years.
I’m black. I’m also the president of my yacht club.
Now, what’s to be gained by NOT contesting inaccurate blanket statements, or at least expanding on them? We’ll learn even less about each other as a society because we won’t be exposed to anything beyond the few preconceived notions we showed up with. I guess to some that’s a good thing? *shrugs* “Black people don’t golf, swim, hike, or play tennis.” Is it just easier to accept stereotypes as coming from some form of truth, even if most of them are antiquated and no longer apply? If we keep telling ourselves they’re ‘stereotypes for a reason’, we’ll be more comfortable using them, right? I guess I’d rather an open discussion about cultural differences and how they seem more influenced geographically and economically than racially.
I find the discussions to be enlightening and peaceful by nature, so I don’t see why they should be discouraged. Many of these subjects are addressed on the show which leads to a discourse in the comments section. No biggie.
@Jeanine: I love you, too. I’ve been missing you around these parts and on FB, too! I hope you’re not too busy to come and play more often!
@NWMTV: You could’ve stopped at Black..and president. I mean, let’s not get too carried away here. Sure, hiking and swimming, whatever. But president?
Today president of the Miskatonic Yacht Club.
Tomorrow the Secretary General of the United Nations.
Stephen Colbert the other night: “Today the Republicans began the process of deciding their candidate for 2012. Spoiler alert! He’s rich and white!”
I love all the conversation my comments have spark. By no means did I mean to imply that NO black people camp..I think its a more accurate statement to say MOST black people DO NOT camp. Even if all the black folks in San Francisco camped that still makes my statement any less true. I dont understand why others get offended when a statement is made about a particular group of people when its actually true and can actually statisically proven. Its what makes the different cultures, races, ethnicities so diverse. If we all participated in all the same activities, ate the same food, and lived in the same places..what would be the fun in life!
Now if I said all black people eat watermelon and fried chicken and can dance..feel free to pull the stereotype card! My thoughts on blacks camping can be found in any antropology study on blacks in America and the reasons why strongly correlated to the reasons sarcasatire mentioned. Its about exposure, culture norms, and experience.
“.still DOESN’T makes my statement any less true”…,Where the heck is the edit button. Its hard to make a point when I cant edit my mistakes…LOL
Also..when I was in high school, I asked my mom if we could go camping and she said “nope, I was raised in a third world country, I’ve camped enough in my life”…LMAO!
Oh god, someone get the fire extinguisher for Sarcas and Robin again.
thiajok,
With all due respect, I mentioned that I would rather piss in the woods. Didn’t think that an innocent comment would be the cause of ire. Didn’t want it, didn’t expect it.
TC, Robin
NWMT – interesting theory about the wives. I think they would have stayed. Barbara did get the priesthood, so I could see her staying since she’d like to be in charge for once. And Margene had to stay if she wants to keep traveling around – or else there would be no one to watch her kiddies. And where else would Nicki go? I’m sure she’s not welcome on the compound. I think it was odd that they said it was “11 months later” – why not just make it one year? Is there some significance to that that I missed? And why wouldn’t Barbara have Teenie with her? They made it sound like she’s still living with her sister.
I didn’t buy that Heather and Ben would get back together. He’s going to be a polygamist and she clearly isn’t so I don’t get that at all. I liked her character and I wanted her to get as far away from that crazy-ass family as possible.
And I guess we’re supposed to assume that CaraLynn stayed with Nicky after their talk in the kitchen?
Funny, I didn’t see any ‘ire’ on this thread until someone told someone else to ‘go take a hike.’ Differences of opinion, yes. Ire, no.
@thiajok: I don’t know why you ever put the fire extinguisher away. Maybe they should make a mini version you can keep on your person at all times. Just in case.
“Guess you’ve never been to a hotel? Or haven’t been advised on the benefits of traveling with lysol and ajax, when staying anywhere overnight. Heck, I’m gonna take your statement literally and imagine you only pee at home or against trees. Must limit the amount of things you can do and places you can see…”
I told_ you_ to go take a hike after I read the above. Let’s not muddy the water with the “someone else” thing.
You have been involved in many disagreements as of late, in threads that I have not participated in. I would advise that maybe it is you that should keep an extinguisher on hand to put out the fires of your own making.
Robin
Oh come on, robin. I just pointed out why some people prefer to ‘camp’ in RVs as opposed to tents. But of course, you felt the need to comment on that. You made a statement that pissing in the woods was better than using a bathroom once used by a stranger. So I just remarked that it must limit the activities you participate in, I mean the only bathroom not used by strangers are the ones in our homes. So, you felt the appropriate response was to tell me to take a hike.
It’s funny, because you love to remark on my comments. You love to keep a feud going, and you’ve been told by various posters to just let it go. I don’t think a week goes by without someone asking you to stop ‘pissing in the pool.’
Sure, there are disagreements on the Gasm everyday. But only you seem to want to contantly engage in conflict with the same people over absolutely nothing. Let it go, already…sheesh.
You know, 2hyper, you bring up and interesting point. I mean, how many people have to do something before a statement like ‘These people don’t do this,” is no longer valid? I mean, in the case of minorities? When Black people make up only 12% of the population, we will be a minority in many activities, so while you may see just a few Black people doing certain activities, is it still accurate to say that it isn’t an activity pursued by Black people?
For instance, based on the last census, there are approx 242 million White people living in America. How many of them camp? Doesn’t matter. If it’s just 10 million, a mere fraction of the population, it is still a staggering amount camping each year. If you took the same percentage (roughly 5%) of Black people camping, that would make only 184,000 camping a year. Compared to 10 million, a pretty paltry number, but the percentages are the same, so does the stereotype of Black people not camping still stand?
Of course, if you visit various campsites, you may see only one or 2 Black families, but that’s an accurate portrayal based on the population. In most activities and interests, you will see few Black people at at time. For instance, I went to a competitive art school where I studied photography. In the program, of which only 75 students were accepted a year, there were only 3 Black students, including myself. There were Japanese exchange students, Chinese-American, Latino, but the majority of the students were White. So, is it now an accurate statement to peer into our class of 25 students, see that only 2 of them are Black, and assume Black people don’t do photography? Or, my jobs in fashion..most of the sets/shoots I work on, out of 15 people in the crew, approx five of them would be minorities, made up of Asian, Latino and African-American, excluding the models. (Usually, if six models are hired, only one will be Black, one will be Latino, and the rest will be Caucasian, divided into categories based on blond, brunette, curvy, male, or female). Would it be safe to look at the racial makeup of the crew, and see only one Black person or one Asian person and assume Blacks/Asians don’t work in fashion?
I’m just curious about this because, as a minority, you will always be a minority in most activities you do. But what if the percentages are the same? For example, 5% of people from all races engage in a particular activity. Camping, for example. That would mean 10 million White Americans, 200,00 Black Americans. Does that change things in terms of stereotypes and generalizations, if it’s still 5% of any racial group? Or does one say that out of 10 million+ campers a year, less that 200,000 of them are Black, therefore, most Black people don’t camp?
Forgive me for being long-winded Gasmii..I got all curious and do enjoy the various points of view around these parts, so if anyone could shed some light, appreciated. If not, I don’t blame, because I don’t know the answers, either, lol.
sheesh..the least I could’ve done was break up the paragraphs. Where an edit function when I need one? lol
I have made it a point not to comment on your posts. I only respond to you when you respond to something that I have said.
Unfortunately it is too often that your opinion of what I wrote tends to lean toward argument for argument’s sake. I mean, who care’s where someone takes a pee? It was just a conversation starter. Did that statement deserve a response along the lines of what you intimated in your post? Never been in a hotel, etc. You knew what the hell you were saying, so don’t act as though you were concerned about my limited activity.
No it isn’t funny. And I don’t love keeping a feud going. I never had one as is verified by the archives. I also think that you are insulting the reader’s when you “remind” them that I am told every week to “let it go”. This is simply not true and I am extremely close to calling you a liar. I know why you put “pissing in the pool” in quotes too.
The truth of the matter is, after many enjoyable years here with no problem whatsover I am now being labeled, by you, as someone that is essentially told on a weekly basis to shut up by other Gasmii. You are under the impression that the more you say it, more people will believe it. Although your tendency to speak on behalf of everybody lend’s itself to questioning.
Robin
Robin, please. Anyone who read this thread saw my comment about not wanting to use the woods as a toilet and preferring to rent an RV with bathroom. And then you post about pissing in the woods, rather than a bathroom used by a stranger (which we all took to mean the RV rental). Not a conversation starter. It was a response to my comment. So when you say you make it a point not to comment on my posts, do try a little harder.
Thanks.
Saying you have never engaged in a feud is so laughable, I won’t even comment.
I happen to find this ongoing feud so silly. I’ve tried to squash things with you, Robin, via PM, even. It seems like you would stop, especially with all those people coming after you on Commentgasm in Dec.I wanted to start 2011 on a clean slate and sent you a PM. But it didn’t take long before you were back at it. On the Drag Race thread, most recently. That was when a fellow Gasmii asked you to stop. I didn’t even come back at you with an insult, I just laughed at you because you can’t help myself.
I’m bored by this, but I should try harder to ignore you. But, I can’t help it…my sarcasm sometimes gets the better of me. I should try harder, too.
I agree 2 hyper. There are things that certain cultures do and they don’t do as a majority. I don’t think that people should be discouraged to talk about it, but I think it would be more productive to discuss the cultural, geographical, or social experience rather than believe that the differences don’t exist.
I assume NeNe didn’t mean not one black person on the by God planet camps. I assume she mean “in general” black people don’t camp.
@Sarcas, I love ya, but when you wrote that first reply to Robin, I actually typed a reply that you shouldn’t start anything. But I erased it. I know that Robin sometimes starts stuff, but this one was on you.
Now you two shake hands and go to different parts of the campground.
@Robin & Sarcas: You two girls keep me in peals of laughter. I might threaten a fire extinguisher, but I’d be too busy laughing to actually use it. I like to think of the two of you as our very own Kelly and Bethenny. Or some other combination of reality stars who can’t get along for five minutes. So, as you were, please.
We need a weave pull, stat!! Totally OT, am I completely sappy or wasn’t Natalie Maines cover of “God only Knows” lovely? I have downloaded it. Yes, amateur cultural anthropologists, this black woman did that…and I know that Natalie Maines was in the Dixie Chicks and that “God Only Knows” was a Beach Boys tune. Which I also have on my Ipod…
LOL LAC… I am the “whitest black girl” you’ll ever meet so I feel you on the Dixie Chicks. Can’t tell you how many times in college I had “Sometimes” on repeat all day. That’s what I love about being an amateur cultural antropologist, its not an exact science.
@sarcastire.. in regards to your essay response (LOL)…since I am just an amateur antropologist and not a statistician, I dont know what percentage would consider something to be in the minority.
Now I was raised in a small Caribbean island then I went to a Texas high school that was 99.6% black and then went on to a Texas college that was 98% white at the time (that’s where I learned to embrace my inner white girl!)and so I find that I do not fit the mold for many things but that’s what I love about me and everyone I know…our life experiences very much defines what we consider to be the norm.
I also find since I was not born American, I am not as sensitive about discussing race, etc. because slavery was not a dominant influence in my country’s history…yes, it played a part but being controlled by Spain, France, and England is what’s defines my country’s history and current struggles.
@LAC – The song itself is such a perfect little pop love song that I think even I could record a beautiful version of it, but I don’t think anyone will ever come close to the original. Carl’s vocals are just so perfect to the words. So sweet and vulnerable. Natalie’s were just a bit loud for the song.
I loved the Beach Boys – they used to play at the Mall in WDC during the 4th of July. Unfortunately, that was not to last. Sorry, I just loved her cover – I don’t know why. It just caught me in a moment.
2Hyper – you are too funny. And it seems that you have had a wealth of different social experiences. I think it is great and gives you some advantage in having these discussions.
2Hyper: LOL..I’m with you on the amateur cultural anthropology but I limit it to reading memoirs about wacky families. Running with Scissors, anyone? Now, I’m reading David Sedaris and cracking up.
Snootchy, perhaps, you’re right. Like I said I should try harder myself. I’ve had to deal with quite a lot from this person, including harassment in the forums, and a post I had deleted by the administrators because she went on a rampage, even calling my baby ‘slow’ because she learned to crawl at 8 months. (Where was your fire extinguisher then, Thiajok? LAC, where were you when I needed you to hold my earrings, hmm? LOL!)
Maybe my ISB™ needs a Quaalude. She does respond well to great reality TV, however, so Celebrity Apprentice is just the thing to keep her happy and contained. That, and David Sedaris. 
I’m making light of it because I really don’t want the drama anymore, it drags down the thread of snarkaliciousness. It’s not fair to you guys and takes away from an otherwise good thread full of snark and intellect.
I’ve tried to make peace but after a time of getting my comments picked apart, sometimes my inner sarcastic bitch just comes bubbling to the surface. Sawwy.
Now, the real study we should perform is how Dionne manages to chew gum so confidently without loosening the Polident grip on her wooden teeth. Is there a science to that?
LAC…try the David Bowie version of “God Only Knows.” It’s in my top 30 songs of all time.
Cattyfan, I will. That sounds so intriguing and I do like David Bowie. Thank you!
Sarcas, I will hold the earrings, the rings, and yo’ shoes…know that! LOL!! And yeah, what is with that gum in the mouth with that one? It is so distracting!
@sarcas: oh my goodness… you read Running with Scissors! I read it when the movie came out because I have this thing about reading the books first before seeing the movie. I was so disturbed from reading the book that I never saw the movie…LOL!
I certainly missed that particular fight, but I still likely would have been trying to hold a video camera while bent over double laughing, thus fudging the whole thing. LOL.
I’m not taking sides. I’m a fan of most people who post here regularly.
LOL @sarcas re Dionne and Polident.
This morning The Donald was on GMA talking about The Apprentice. He said that things heat up even more in the next several weeks between Star and Nene. He talked about the fact that they were both strong, dominant women, then said that in the coming shows they make Omorosa look sweet !!!
@2Hyper, Yes, Running with Scissors as a book was so disturbing, but I couldn’t put it down. (what does that say about me? lol) I never saw the movie either because I figured that there was no way they could do the book justice. I mean, Gwyneth Paltrow? If you haven’t read David Sedaris, check him out. He makes dysfunction light and funny and totally relatable. Plus, his sister is Amy Sedaris so imagine how much fun that household was.
@Fan-Ann, I can imagine Star doesn’t appreciate any backtalk and Nene must not have gotten the memo. Now, Nene won’t shout down crickety joints Dionne, but she’s gonna let Star have it. I heard a spoiler about Nene’s fate but I won’t share..don’t wanna ruin it for the rest of you.
Have you read the entertaining book by Amy Sedaris? I don’t mean the book is entertaining (though it is), I mean a book about entertaining. I love it!
Count me in on the Sedaris love.
@Snootchy, I saw Amy Sedaris on WWHL showing Tom Coliccio and Andy how to make a candle salad (pineapple slices stacked then a banana erected in the center, with it’s tip smeared with cream and a busted cherry). And she said she learned it at Girl Scouts! She is hilarious.
David Sedaris used to write essays for Esquire, most of which have been put in his compilations, but if you haven’t read the ones about his brother Rooster (“You Can’t Kill the Rooster,” and “Rooster at the Hitching Post”) you haven’t read his most sublime pieces. And, of course, his essay explaining the Christmas traditions of Holland should not be missed, either.
@Vallegirl, which book are those essays in? Or maybe I can find them online? I read Naked years ago. And ‘Engulfed in Flames’ when I was recovering from labor. Funny story, a social worker was doing the rounds and came into my room to remind me not to shake my baby and to give me a spiel on PP depression, and she notices the book on the shelf under the bassinet and goes, “Oh wow, I love David Sedaris!” And we go into a 10 minute convo about his stories and she forgot to make sure I remembered not to shake my baby. Then again, she must’ve figured Sedaris fans aren’t baby shakers. Lol
Anyway, I completely forgot most of that book. Childbirth and PTSD will do that to you. I do think it was more adult essays with him in Japan and Europe. I am 3 essays into the ‘Courdoroy and Denim’ so maybe I’ll luck out and it’s in this book. I’d love to check out some of his other essays that didn’t make it into his books. Do they mostly focus on his family or other topics?
“Rooster at the Hitching Post,” is in “Dress Your Family in Corduroy and Denim” which also has the essay about Christmas in Holland.
But! “You Can’t Kill the Rooster” is in “Me Talk Pretty One Day,” so all three are featured in his books. Which also has ANOTHER favorite of mine “Jesus Shaves” which has the absolute best ending of any essay ever.
Now I’m intrigued and will have to look into reading more of Sedaris’s writing (what does that say about me!). This is why I love TVGasm. This convo started out talking about blacks camping, there was fighting in between, and it ends of David Sedaris! LOVE IT!
Sedaris is a great story-teller; he can draw you into some outrageous story that you would totally walk away from at a cocktail party unless he was the one telling it. Very dry wit. I find him very clever in moderate doses. I listened to one of his books on tape on a very long car trip, and probably overdosed on him a little, but I’d still recommend him.
@ Jazzy, re: Big Love. It seemed like CaraLynn was noticeably absent “eleven months later”, so maybe she mader her piece with Nikki, but I think she must have split. (She wasn’t there, am I remembering that right?) I think CaraLynn and Heather might have been the only sane people on the whole show, thoughout all the seasons. That makes me think that they would be donzo with the Henderson Family Unit.)
I’ve been trying to figure out what possible purpose Lois and Frank’s “story line” was serving for the last two seasons, so I was glad to see her finally shuffle off to Jesus. After the parrot smuggling/machette maiming thing, it was hard to take either of them seriously again. Or care.
I’m glad it’s wrapped up. I wanted to see what would ultimately happen to them all, but I guess I’m not a soap-opera fan. After awhile, when Bill says “stay away from the compound”, and five minutes later, one (or more characters) is driving towards peril at the compound, I stopped rooting for them and sort of wanted to see destroyed by the lack of a learning curve, you know?
I’m late to the party but I saw the David Sedaris discussion and had to jump in. Huge fan of him and Burrough’s and if you haven’t read Augusten Burrough’s ‘Sellevision’ put it on your must read list. It’s his only fiction book (I believe) and it is totally warped and absolutely hysterical much like his non-fiction works.
I don’t usually comment on these recaps, but I read all of these comments and I have to say I thought sarcasatire was incredibly rude to Robinez. It appeared to me that Robinez made a perfectly innocent comment, and sarcasatire came back with a really rude reply. Then some people actually jump in to defend sarcasatire. I read the comments on here all the time and have for a long time. It’s my personal opinion that the mood and general attitude of this website has drastically changed since Sarcassatire joined in. There’s constant conflict and nasty, sarcastic comments. Anyone who doesn’t agree with Sarcasatire gets a scathing comment, and of course the obligatory sarcastic and cutting comment from NotWithoutMyTV (who is funny, but incredibly mean-spirited). Is Sarcassatire paying you for having her back, no matter what she says or does? What’s happened with this website is just sad. I miss the old days when it was about the shows, not about a particular commenter trying to run the site and control the dialogue.
@mySharona- -you probably missed the forum-war-gate 2010 (LUCKY!!) A lot of unnecessary personal attacks went too far and Sarcasatire was often the target of very mean-spirited posts in a very ‘burn book’ like forum created by a group of posters who for the most part no longer frequent this site. Robinez was associated with said forum, deleted comments, etc and her and Sarcas have had a long standing feud which I think will cause them to attack/defend/fight etc no matter what context either one comments in no matter what the thread is actually about.
That being said, while I typically side with Sarcas (if I had to pick, based on the past) I think Robinez wasn’t trying to start shit in this thread and on a whole has been more delightful of a poster recently.
For the most part, TVGASM has gotten back to its awesome banter without personal attacks, and I hope it stays that way!
That’s just my take, not trying to speak for anyone or on anyone’s behalf (still have to put a disclaimer when posting sometimes so shit doesn’t hit the fan!)
captain-save-uh-hoe – thank you so much for providing more insight. I appreciate the information, and the friendly way in which you provided it. If all commenters were as nice as you, there would be no TVGASM wars!
You know..I’m starting to see a bit of a pattern here. I always find it so interesting that the person who stirs the pot the heaviest is always a ‘first time commenter’(check the IP address, and it will say differently) who claims to have been reading the comments ‘forever’ and can perfectly ascertain who’s right and who’s wrong in every conflict. I find it equally interesting that being ‘a long time reader of TVGasm’, they have only ever felt the need to comment on conflicts between posters and not on anything positive or humorous, you know, like the main content on the site. But what interests me the most, is that they NEVER appear until the conflict has died down, using their first time post on a site they’ve visited for years, to kick up dust and start a fight.
It’s great that you’ve decided to come out of lurker status to begin commenting, MySharona. But please, spend your energies praising the good writers and not stirring the pot.
(Note: Based on how you spelled my name..makes me wonder if you’ve visited the forum threads where I was labeled ‘sarcASSatire’ by a group of posters until the moderators had to intervene and either lock or delete them? Or maybe you hang out on that other blog where those girls retired to and were still talking about me which I gave two shits about but drew the line at them cyberstalking me and posting my private info? It’s obvious you’re more than a casual observer..you’ve come here with an ax to grind. Like I said, I’m so beyond that nonsense…I’ve sent PMs and private emails trying to squash such an unnecessary, immature conflict but some people like an audience. Isn’t that right, MySharona? Why send a PM when can you go all cyber thug right in the comments section of a site you say you wish was conflict free? You say you miss the days when it was about the shows but what have you chosen to add to the site? Sure wasn’t anything about the shows! LOL)
I love this site. This comments thread was more entertaining than Big Love and Celeb Apprentice put together. I love reading what everyone has to say. I know you two have beef, but I believe as time goes on you are getting better at respecting each other’s opinion/snark. So just keep at it.
“The comments….the comments….the comments on ‘ire!
We don’t need no extinguisher, let the mutha***** burn!”
The fact that you check isp#’s says alot. Do you have a list of isp’s to compare? This is just another one of the bombs that you like to throw in hopes that folks will believe you.
What is wrong with someone coming out of lurk mode? It happens all the time. I am well aware of your tendancy to like to overtake a conversation, so you may not be familiar with people that just lurk and only respond when they feel as though they have something to say.
You have mentioned a “pattern here” many times before. When someone disagree’s with you it become’s a “pattern”. You truly have a hard time when someone disagree’s with you and it has been shown that you intend to get the last word no matter what.
You also think it is your place to “remind” folks how to post here. You often use “we” and instead of accepting that it was uncomfortable for other’s when you speak for them, you made a direct point to use WE in many post’s, not sure what you were trying to prove. As a matter of fact, and this can be verified easily, I posted to a thread and clicked on later to see “WE said WE didn’t want you here Robin GO AWAY”. And I am the one bothering you?
I haven’t written a word in response to you in a long time. I posted an innocent comment. Not directed at anyone.
If I felt like it was worth it, I would cc&p other threads and show folks that I am not the only person that you don’t get along with and have to have the last word with. But it isn’t.
The word of the day, kids, is Deflect, deflect, deflect.
I pointed out that you and other posters engaged in harrassing behavior against myself and other posters and since you can’t deny that, you’d rather pick apart my comment in other ways.
I’m not judging lurkers, just pointing out hypocritical behavior of those who say they miss the peace around here, yet dedicate their posts to disturbing it.
Of course, I don’t check IP addy’s, how would I do that? I am suggesting, however, that perhaps people post under different names, especially one who used the same name you used to call me in your burn book.
I don’t get why you keep harping on the word ‘we.’ You’ve used that as an excuse to start trouble with me in the past which resulted in backlash from several commenters who’d had enough of you starting trouble without provocation. But please don’t lie, Robin. I have NEVER posted anthing close to ‘we don’t want you here.’ If that has ever been written to you, it was by another poster you’ve alienated. Trust me, there were plenty.
You claim you haven’t written to/about me in a long time. Wasn’t it just last week you tried to start a rumor that I was banned from Gawker on the Drag Race recap? (this was when Snootchy asked you to stop starting trouble, remember?) Or maybe it was the week before? I guess that’s your idea of both ‘a long time ago’ and ‘an innocent comment.’
Oh goody – this again.
I’ve been around since the beginning of this fight, and I’ve not taken sides. But let’s be clear — you are no innocent babe in the woods, @sarcas. You have stirred more shit then you admit to, you have fanned flames, and yes – you have even had more then your fair share of ‘first time posters’ coming out of the woodwork to take your side and bash your ‘enemies’ for you.
This shit has got to stop. It’s gone on too long.
I’m sorry…I don’t get out much. What’s a “burn book?”
@cattyfan -it’s a teen mean girl thing where they take a notebook and write a different name on each page then pass the book around for everyone to write what they ‘really’ think about that person on each page.
And yes, both sides of this fight have had their version of the burn book going. It’s bullshit in high school, but absolutely pathetic at our ages.
@ohralphie: I’m not sure if you’ve read my post upthread where I take responsibility for my actions and said that I have tried to start this new year on a clean slate and even sent Robin a PM trying to squash the beef. I thought that we’d agreed to leave each other alone. I’ve also tried to squash it several times on this thread by moving on to lighter topics but it’s like every time things die down, someone starts it back up again. Trust me, I’ve even more bored than you are.
@cattyfan: No Mean Girls fan, are you? LOL! A burn book is a book the mean girls create that makes disparaging personal comments about people they don’t like. While I have may have had differences of opinion, I never went on the personal level of attacks that were utilized in the forums..like I said, she’d made fun of my child, she tried to start a rumor that I was using “gov’t cheese to feed my kid” and that I was lying about my job. Yep, that gov’t cheese crack is a direct quote from a newsgasm thread and it came out of nowhere. I let it go and didn’t respond back, but it didn’t stop there. I’ve complained several times to the moderators but they never wanted TVGasm to be a place where people are censored and I respect that. But I’ve dealt with a lot of shit and I’m not trying to make myself a victim because when I let my ISB™ come out and play, I can give as good as I get. But I’d never sink that low to talk about someone’s child.
Is everyone good and bored yet? Can we move on? I don’t want to be accused of directing the conversation, so please forgive me if it appears that way.
@ohralphie: Are you suggesting that I had a forum thread or anywhere on here (or any other site) dedicated to talking about people? Please do not start such rumors because I have NEVER engaged in such a thing and I resent the implication. Please be mindful of the things you say. Thank you.
@(J)ustPeachy…Hilarious!
I’m entertained! I only have one item on my to do list today (don’t tell my boss) so I have time to kill.
Ah. Thanks for the info. I’ve never seen Mean Girls, although it’s been on my list. I hate missing cutural references.
Now…what’s the problem with government cheese? When my dad’s union went on strike in the 70s, we ate government cheese. Although weirdly unidentifiable, it was still pretty good (great for macaroni and cheese.) Government peanut butter…also delicious. I haven’t had either in years. (Maybe it’s just nostalgia that makes it seem like it tasted so good…)
lol @ Cattyfan. It probably does taste good. But I wouldn’t know. I also don’t believe it’s anything to be ashamed of, but these comments were said to me as a way of put down, so I guess there are some people who look down on others with less means.
I’ll insult a lot of things…but as a Wisconsinite, I draw the line at cheese…even if ya can’t tell what the hell flavor it’s supposed to be.
What do you call cheese that isn’t yours?
Nacho cheese!
(I’ll be here all week.
)
@mere: You’re right..Sellevision was a great book. I forgot it was Burroughs who wrote because I randomly selected it at the library before I knew who he was. Hilarious satire.
Does anyone know what Sarcasatire means when she refers to using the name used in her burn book? I thought Sarcasatire was her name. I’m so confused. I don’t consider myself a “lurker”. I’m someone who contributes when I have something to say. Most of the I just enjoy reading the recaps and comments. Is that bad? Sarcasatire – thanks so much for proving my point on all counts, by the way.
“most of the time”!~
@ MySharona – I think it’s a joke – a reference to the burn book in Mean Girls.
@Sarcs – I need to re-read that one. Any book that starts off with someone accidentally exposing themselves on live television is all right by me!
MySharona..Oh, you’re back? And not a moment too soon..things were getting peaceful around here again, so now’s your chance to stir the pot once more.
You are correct. My screen name is Sarcasatire. However, you wrote SarcASSatire one too many times for it to have been an innocent typo. This was how they referred to me in the ‘burn book’, so it leads to believe you came here with an ax to grind.
Doesn’t matter. I don’t know you, yet you think you know me. And that you can make wild accusations that I am bringing down TVGasm singlehandedly. Ha..you give me too much power. I don’t know whether to be flattered or annoyed.
Cattyfan – I recommend the movie. I got it for my daughter and then sat down and ended up watching it with her. Very funny and very on point.
I also got a chance to hear the David Bowie version of “God only Knows” – I liked his voice on it. Very low and sexy.
Sarcasatire – another MO for you is distorting what someone says. I said I “usually don’t comment”. You turned that into “first time commenter”. Also, I didn’t realize I wrote Sarcassatire ONE TIME – BY ACCIDENT, not “one too many times”. Don’t you realize people are smart enough to re-read the original comments and see that you are exaggerating and purposely distorting the facts? I honestly don’t want to continue a comment war with you, but I do question your integrity and your intentions on this website.
Where is Thiajok her fire extinguisher and videocam when you need her? This Motha is definetly burning. An “About Last Night” looks like it’s heading towards 100. Those minicaps are ohhh sooooooo good.
“Don’t you realize people are smart enough to re-read the original comments and see that you are exaggerating and purposely distorting the facts?”
The only they’ll realize is you have a bit of trouble with math.
What’s your point, MySharona? Picking a fight with me will accomplish what exactly? I’m just trying to understand your reasoning and what you hope to gain here.
It’s like one of those grass fires.. you hear it’s contained so you go to sleep, but when you awake in the morning you find that a hot spot went ablaze and now it’s doubled in size.
P.S. Good Morning Gasmii!
“When you’re a jet, you’re a jet all the way. From your first cigarette to your last dying day!”
Thought I would move us closer to 100 with a West Side Story tune
(J)ust Peachy: Great analogy!! I feel the same way.. lol
“Look at that pretty girl in that mirror there.
What mirror? Where?
Who could that attractive girl be?”
Deuces!!
Oh wait. I get it. SarcASSatire. Har!
Since my name was brought into this: Yes, Sarcas, on the Drag Race thread, I called out Robin for trying to start shit. But I also called out YOU on this thread for trying to start shit.
I never ever go to the forums except to read the auditiongasm. I’ve never read a thread or commented or anything else. So I am unaware of any shinanagans that go on or have gone on there. All I can see is what goes on here. Robin, you used to piss me off all the time because you would just come on a thread and stir shit. But lately you have been MUCH better. Yes, there was that one thing on Drag Race recently, but that is the only one I remember for a long while. At least on the ones I read as I don’t read everything ever written on the ‘gasm. But Sarcas, you have been the instigator more lately. Not sure if you are stressed in your real life (I know I am grumpier when that is happening in my life) or what, but it has definitely shown in certain comments.
You are both adults (presumably). You both know there has been beef in the past. So why can’t you just ignore the other person in comments or at least comment without making it a passive aggressive stab or a sarcastic jab which you pretend is innocent. Just let the wounds heal and stop picking the scab, for crying out loud.
To paraphrase Tyra: This is the last time I am going to talk to you about attitude. Next time I am not going to give you your motherflarking picture!
“I question your integrity and your intentions with this website.”
Intentions? We’ll, let’s see..
First, I’ll begin by befriending unsuspecting commenters, and just as they begin to trust me, I’ll brain zap them through their webcams with the latest advancements of mind control. Dance, puppets, dance! Then, I’ll slither over to LA and kidnap Flipit and ransom him to the highest bidder. It will be a telethon podcast hosted by Nads, a hapless victim of my web cam technology. Then, I’m gonna take that money( a thousand millions dollars) and buy all the Groupons I can get my grubby little fingers on. Then the world will be mine!!
*strokes hairless cat with mechanical phalanges*
LAC…glad you liked the Bowie cut. If my husband and I ever do the “renewal of vows” thinkg, that will be our dance. I’ll try out Mean Girls one of these Saturday nights since the networks have stopped running anything of note.
I love West Side Story. Have you ever seen the SNL parody with Norm MacDonald?
Sarcasatire – because you have a hard time understanding exactly what people are saying, let me translate for you. By “intentions”, I mean what YOU hope to gain by continually stirring up shit and antagonizing people. Is it to make yourself feel better because you have such low self-esteem? Is is to feel powerful because you have no power in your “real” life?
I hope this translation helps you better understand my comment. I’m sure this comment will be misinterpeted as well, but what can I do.
Cattyfan – no I haven’t. Since I love his Burt Reynolds impressions, I better check that out. I am embarassed to say that I think I know most of the lyrics of that musical.
@Snootchy: Not to repeat what I’ve already written to you upthread but I admit that in this particular instance I was annoyed that Robin was commenting on my post because I said I didn’t wanna poop in a hole. Like making it a comparison or oneupmanship. It could’ve just been my perception and I acknowledged that my ISB™ comes out with Robin because as you have acknowledged, she would start shit all the time. Sure, she’s gotten better but only because she gets called out on it, as you did on the Drag Race thread. Sure, I made a sarcastic response on this thread. But what she wrote on the DR thread wasn’t just sarcasm, it was an outright attack. And a lie to boot. So, on this thread, to see her comment on my comment, I got annoyed. Am I human? Yes.
Besides that, let’s see. There’s Beryl, who posted on this thread specifically to insult me. Then, we have MySharona, who showed up to do the same.
I’ve never had contact with anyone of these people, I never kicked their dog, or TP’d their house, so what THE?
Mysharona says: “I mean what YOU hope to gain by continually stirring up shit and antagonizing people. Is it to make yourself feel better because you have such low self-esteem? Is is to feel powerful because you have no power in your “real” life?”
Oh, so that’s the reason you showed up here. Thanks for clarifying.
@vallegirl, I was fascinated by your discussion of David Sedaris, so I downloaded “Me Talk Pretty One Day”. I love it, especially “You Can’t Kill the Rooster”. Thanks for a great read.
Fan-Ann, bless you. And LAC and Cattyfan, as well. Thanks for keeping it light and focusing on the things that unite us Gasmii, not drives us apart.
@Fan-Ann – I’m glad you liked it. I read it when it was originally published in Esquire, and at that point I’d only read The Santaland Diaries, but my love and loyalty of all things David Sedaris (I already knew of Amy) began with that essay. I think it’s still my favorite.
I’m not keeping it light so much as I’m just in my own little world and I like it there…
Cobras! Panthers!
@sarcasatire – If you would have stopped trying to have the last word, this would have ended a long time ago.
And back to the show. I usually don’t watch the Apprentice shows because of my intense dislike for Trump, but I had to turn this on to see if it was as outrageous as it seemed. I must say, it is pretty amusing in a train wreck kind of way. You can’t take your eyes off it.
You are welcome, Sarcas – you handled your business and I got to be 100! Woo Hoo!!!!!
Have we forgotten to hate theresa?
Flipit – as God is my witness…we will never not hate Teresa again!!
(music swells. LAC stands, clutching a tissue as the camera pulls back from Tara. And viewers are wondering what the hell is that black chick doing at Tara?)
Flipit – I thought the same thing – we forgot to say we hate Theresa! Okay – everyone together now – WE HATE THERESA! (and Gretchen).
OMG LAC- I love you for that westside story reference. LOL Seriously, rolling.
@LAC you are killing me today.
I knew it would be a good thing to keep this going.
It’s a new age. The O’Haras couldn’t pay the taxes, so the black chick bought the house out from under them.
Tara’s all hers now.
Catty! LOL!! That’s right! I am the plantation flipper. I just bought it for an investment!
I am in a goofy mood today.
Flip This Plantation…coming soon to HGTV.
LAC & cattyfan: you two are on fi-yah to day! And LAC? Knowing all the lyrics to WSS is something to be PROUD of (says the woman who knows far too many lyrics to far too many Broadway shows). Yup. PROUD.
And to add to the West Side Story lyricfest……Our mothers all are junkies, our fathers all are drunks, golly Moses, naturally we’re punks!
I may have to watch that movie tonight.
Me and you, both Pottymouth. I am feeling really bad about myself that I didn’t get a single reference from West Side Story or Gone With the Wind, but I knew every one of them from Mean Girls. That is so not fetch.
I’m a sucker for anything Sondheim.
WSS Lyrics is a game I can get on.
When I will go back to San Juan
/When you will shut up and get gone
/Everyone there will be givebig cheer
/Everyone there will have moved here…CLAP CLAP CLAP CHA CHA CHA
Thanks PottyMouth! Officer Krumpkie!!
“I think I’ll go back to San Juan… I know a boat you can get on! Bye, bye! HA HA! Everyone there will give a big cheer … Everyone there would have moved here!”
Cattyfan – yeah, defintely an HGTV show!
Gone With The Wind. The movie is good…the book is way better. There are so many characters missing from the movie…for example, in the movie Scarlett has one child. In the book there are three…and her relationship (or lack thereof) with them is very revealing.
For those of you who are under the age of twenty, a book is an old fashioned thing with words on pages bound together.
captain!!! LOL!!!! Great minds…
Sarcas – I am just an ole woman – just ask my 16 year old.
cattyfan, are you SURE we’re not related? I think we need to do that green leaf thingy. Not the Adam and Eve one, the family tree one.
LAC- haha! Seriously!!!!!! Man, now I totally want to watch that movie. Mariaaaaaa.
Ah. Family tree. Thank God. I look horrible in elm leaves.
We can give it a whirl…who knows who we’ll find in the branches My sister charted ours once. Actor Gary Cole (not Gary Coleman) fell out. He’s like a fourth cousin or something. (Loved him in American Gothic.)
“For those of you who are under the age of twenty, a book is an old fashioned thing with words on pages bound together.”
Nuh uh! It is sort of a shiny pink metallic with a touch screen and the cover has a little lamp. And I am WAY over 20!
Book? Oh yeah, got an app for that!
Sorry in advance. This is the last post that I will write on the subject. I need to get this off my chest and throw away the bra.
I have been posting here for years. Back when b-side was here and I had, believe it or not, a webtv! I used to click on the recap and go do something else, like paint the house, mow the lawn, while the page loaded. lol.. anyway, It was my fav site and I visited often.
I never, ever, had even a minor disagreement with anyone.
Then I went to the “big time” and got a computer! I was able to post more and as an added bonus made some good internet friends and have also been fortunate enough to meet with two of them.
As far as the problem with Sarcas, I truly do not know what the hell happened. As I said, I NEVER had a problem with anyone before she came along. I should only speak for myself, but the truth is, and it isn’t a secret, some of the longtime poster’s left because of her antic’s. One of the best recappers that tvgasm ever had left in disgust.
I think that my record here speaks for itself. Again, I have never had a problem with anybody until less than a year ago. The folks that left had never had a problem with anyone either.
Yeah, maybe I said things that I shouldn’t have said. I would never talk about somebody’s child. (except for Toddlers and Tiara’s, we are supposed to do that here) The only thing that I said about her kid was that instead of spending 27 hrs a day on the internet bothering me, she could be spending at least a half an hr with her kid. My grandparents got cheese and a free turkey every year so that kinda shit isn’t even something that I would say.
Sarcas has managed, somehow, to cause folks to take sides. I am truly bothered when she talks trash and then wants to have a “kumbyah” moment. “We aren’t here to fight, gasmii, We need to be snarky and get along”. “We are better than this aren’t We?” Now, here’s how you should post from now on..
This last gotcha was because I commented about peeing? Oh, the RuPaul thread too. I said she got banned from Gawker because she did. The reason that I posted it was because it was relevent. She was walking that fine line that got her banned from Gawker.
She has been here less than a year and has caused many folks to find other places to frolic without the bullshit. One person, in less than a year has been the cause of many folks leaving this site. Things that make you go hmmm.
Yeah, you could say that I also contributed to the bullshit. And you would be right. But I must say, I took it and took it too long, saw friend’s leave, and in as much as I would give you the shirt off my back, I will also fight back if you keep fucking with me. I am also stubborn enough to not allow someone to drive me away. I have enjoyed this place for too long to have someone think that they can get rid of me too. She has pecked and pecked at folks to the point that they just gave up and said it wasn’t worth it. She has written directives in threads if the flow isn’t to her standards! “Let’s move on”, “We shouldn’t suggest that”..And My Fav..”Keep this thread on topic please,” WTF?
Well, that’s it. Just wanted to get that out. I promise it is the last you will hear from me on this subject. I am truly burnt out from it. Now, this might seem petty, but I am going to say it anyway. It makes me sad when I log on here and see, on the front page, “LOL Sarcas, you are so funny” , Sarcas, you are soooo right, Yes! Sarcas!.. It isn’t a jealous thing, it is a WTF thing.. There are so many folks here that are too funny for word’s, how come they aren’t being lauded? Another thing that makes ya go Hmmm..
While I am bothered by her need to control our thread’s. I am more concerned about her agenda.
That’s it from me. Take Care, Robin
Heh heh, somehow I don’t believe you, Robin. I’ve seen you in action. Besides, you and Sarcasatire are like mirror twins, one can’t exist without the other at this point. Not sure what MySharona has to do with it, but hey, dogpile on the rabbit and all that, right?
I’m not sure I believe people have really stopped commenting on a web site because of one person. I suppose if she were one of those evil moderators like that have over at TWOP. And if people really did stop coming to this site because of one person, well, they’re wussies. This is the internet, not real life. How difficult is it just to ignore someone you don’t like?
Itchy, I’ve left websites where I didn’t like one person who commented. I go to a website to inform myself and/or entertain myself. If I am getting annoyed each time, I go somewhere else.
In fact, I left the ‘gasm for a period of several months because I was so disgusted at the behavior of some of the commenters. The culmination of it was when someone gave away who was voted off the next episode on a recap, I asked them not to do that or at least give a spoiler warning and the person responded like a complete and total asshole. Now I can give as good as I get (as I am sure you know! lol), but then several “well known” commenters jumped all in my shit like I had done something wrong just to ask her not to do something which we all know shouldn’t be done. And things were said about me like I troll 10 different TV websites trying to start shit (I only go to this one), I neglect my children (I don’t have any), etc. So I left for a while. Like I said, it wasn’t that one situation, but having witnessed a lot of flame wars which had nothing to do with me. If I recall correctly, this was around the time that Flipit started stepping in on all the fights. I don’t remember if that happened after I came back or what though.
I love a good discussion and will debate with gusto. But personal attacks shouldn’t come into it. I know I stepped over the line once with Ohralphie and apologized for that. I realized my words were stronger than I really intended and we moved on. But getting back to the Sarcas/Robin situation, this is a website for snark and sarcasm, but if you know there is ill feeling between you and another poster, you just can’t go there. Because it sparks trouble. And if you go there, you are 100% at fault. Period. I don’t care how innocent you try to say it was afterwards.
@itchy – believe what you will, but there have been many posters that have left due to the fighting. Even worse (and in my opinion unforgivable) was the forced departure of Twunty McSlore due to Sarcas. She was a fabulous recapper and didnot deserve the shit she got from Sarcas regarding accusations of racism. That is what started the shitwar, and Sarcas needs to own her part in it instead of claiming victim status.
@Sarcas – I didn’t suggest shit. I said that both sides had their versions of a slam book. Period. But to clarify – I’ve no idea if you have/had a site that you went to nor do I care. What I do know is that you and your friends were on the same page regarding certain posters. There was a lot of hate getting spread around by both sides in those days.
@Snootchy – your absolutely right, everyone has moments of either coming off harder then they intended or just plain losing their tempers. But most of us apologize and move on and live to snark another day. And that is what I love about this site, and what I hope is never lost.
THAT’s why Twunty left? That must have happened during the time I was gone. What a shame. She was one of my favorites.
“dogpile on the rabbit”
Thanks, itchy, for reminding me of one of my favorite Bugs Bunny cartoons. I have, on occasion, just started singing this because it’s funny.
As for the fighting, I have no dog in this hunt, I just wish that people would think every now and then about how you actually DON’T have to press submit comment every time you write something. Maybe ask yourself, after you’ve written pretty much the same thing for the fifth or eighth time if it’s adding to the flow of the conversation or if it’s just about you. If the answer is the latter, reload the page.
Not all hills are worth dying on.
And by “you” I mean the royal “you” as in the royal “we” as in all of us, myself included. Not pointing fingers at anyone that I’m not pointing at myself.
I do that all the time, Valle! Not just here, but just about everywhere (email, facebook, etc). I type something out and then think “Oh no no no… don’t say that!” But thanks for the reminder. We could all benefit from doing that more often.
You mean…there are other TV sites besides this one?
Bite your tongue, Cattyfan!
I’ll admit that one thing I’ve always enjoyed about TVGasm is that personal attacks are few and far between (apart from the occasional feud, but that’s something else). I really appreciate the fairly high standard of comments here, both in readability and in general friendliness. We’re just here to have a good time, right?
Of course, I don’t read all of the recaps and therefore miss a lot of comment threads and the resulting flamewars. Seems to me that its those fucking Housewives who instigate most of it.
And yeah, I too miss Twunty, if only for that awesome name that made me giggle everytime I read it. Maybe if we send him/her/it a petition begging her/it/him to come back?
As for the spoiler problem, I’m in the same boat as you, Snootch, since I’m overseas and can only see the shows later than everyone else. So I’ve learned to avoid coming here on ‘game day’ — if you’ll notice, I tend to go missing Thursdays, until I’m caught up.
And just in case anyone’s wondering, this is the only site I really visit on a daily/obsessive basis. Which gives me plenty of time to leave my daily droppings, er, comments…
You know, just when I think this shit is done…it gets dragged back into bullshit land. Ohralphie, I used to have respect for you, but I see you are grossly spreading rumors and making a fool of yourself in the process.
I was the reason Twunty left?????
Are you kidding me? Twunty left mid-season on Real Housewives because of family issues. Ask Flipit. Ask anyone. How dare you make such an insinuation.
Also, please get your facts straight. The posters that started the burn book decided they didn’t like me because I came on as a newbie and commented often. There was one, who was the HBIC (Head Bitch in Charge) who started shit with me and also started the burn book. I thought it would be a place for them to vent and I left them to it. But after 16 or so pages, it was no longer about what they hated about me, they were trolling the boards, reading my comments and coming back to comment on that! “Sarcass said she was in Singapore…but I think she’s lying.” Stupid shit like that. I tried to diffuse the situation, tried to explain myself (it was called a Resolution board, after all) and I was told by Prodigal Cheez that she had no interest in resolution. Then, I asked for a ceasefire. “Fine and well, you hate me. But must this go on and on?” I was told, yes, it would. Flipit finally had to lock the thread. That was the only reason it stopped.
As far as leaving, well, once the forum was locked, PCheez took to fighting again on the recaps. I mean, unneccessary attacks which lead to complaints, and finally the ‘commenting rules’ of posts getting deleted. Well, the day that many people left, it was my birthday and I mentioned that I’d gotten carded buying wine and how good it made me feel. A few posters said Happy Birthday and then there was this post, out of nowhere, from PCheez, saying that she hopes for my bday…and it was gross. I mean, raunchy and filthy. A few people were like, WTH? And Flipit intervened with the commenting rules, post and PCheez wrote once last post..where she went off of me and a few other people and then said, “Am I going to get banned? GOOD.” She hasn’t been back since.
Oh wait, she has. Those few people, who were associated with that forum have left, but most of them still post here and I have not had issues with any of them since. As a matter of fact, many of us are cool now. For that reason, I won’t name them.
Anyway, they all went to Twunty’s blog where I was told they were still posting about me! Their very own burn book! I’m sorry, this is beyond ridiculous..these women are in their 40′s, have lives outside of the internet, so why so obsessed? Then, I see my email handle posted publically. And then the name of the blog I write for. How the hell did they find that out?? And then I see several comments that all correspond with what I’ve written on the Gasm in recent days (at the time), as if they were trolling me here to write about it there. I posted on Twunty’s blog, and I went off! I was so angry..I thought it was over. They said no to a ceasefire, but I thought the locking of the thread meant things would return to nornaml. Wrong. Twunty deleted it, made her blog private, but gave the deleted post to PCheez, who returned, and posted it in another forum, which has been locked an deleted. Before, that, I’d written PCheez an email, and she didn’t reply..she posted said email in the forum, with a post about how I was stalking *her*. As I said, some people like conflict and LOVE an audience. I mean, searching the internet for my personal info? How sick are you? All because we didn’t agree on which Housewife we liked? Gimme a friggin break.
Any and everything I say can be corroborated by a visit to the forums. I could give two shits at this point what anyone thinks. It has been acknowledged that Robin starts shit all the time and has gotten better. Well, I dealt with her for like 7 months, day in and day out. So, saying she’s gotten better, is like saying, well, she’ll only bite you once in a while. So, yes, I’m wary. Who wouldn’t be?
If you had to deal with the relentlessness of having someone go after you, your child, make up lies about your family, and such, then you might understand. I have integrity, character, and do not feel the need for such attacks, despite what Ohralphie incorrectly alluded to.
But, hey. Believe what you want to believe. All, Robin is doing is slinging mud and hoping it sticks. But most of you have seen my posts around here and can judge for yourself. I’ve already stated that I am very wary of Robin due to her history of starting shit. But for the most part, I enjoy this site and the many discussions and topics that derive from the recaps. And that’s what I’ll go back to.
This is awesome shit, Sarcasatire. The makings of an excellent novel. No kidding. Get to work!
I must live in a vaccuum, because I managed to miss all this stuff. I was aware of some less than happy feelings between certain posters, but had no idea from where they sprung. I don’t usually venture outside of the confines of this site, except to marvel at the stupidity of the readers of Entertainment Weekly, and to comment on the soaps (I ***hangs her head, mildly embarrassed*** go to two separate soap boards and one site devoted to snarky columns much like here.) In my defense, soaps are no worse than the Housewives series. Not that I’m defensive. No…really…I’m not.
Anyway…I’m having a hard time grasping that posters on a website dedicated to cheerful banter about the entertainment industry could build up this much animosity. Criminy, people. Look around. In the general scheme of things, this is SOOOOOO unimportant.
Have a drink and relax already.
@ Sarcasatire, I love you and your comments. I didn’t realize all of this had gotten so out of hand. Please don’t let the haters run you away, because I enjoy what you have to say.
@ Cattyfan, are you referring to Daytime Confidential as the soap blog you visit?
No. I post on the Young and the Restless board owned by Sony, and on the ones over at soapcentral. The columns I read are at soaptownusa.
Not a fan of Daytime Confidential, and Nelson Branco is not nearly as impressive as he thinks he is.
If you are wary of Robin, why do you bait her? If I were in the same situation, I would completely avoid any comment on those posts ESPECIALLY sarcastic ones that can do nothing but inflame the situation. Maybe your definition of wary and my definition of wary differ.
Lol @ Itchy. I guess you’re right..art imitates life and all that good stuff, right?
Thanks, Derek. I try to stay above the fray, but to quote Michael Corleone..”Everytime I think I’m out, they pull me back in.”
Cattyfan..I agree with you. I never thought that they would go so far in their anger. I can’t even get that mad at someone i don’t know personally. But to each his own..
Anyway..Robin never went after my kid, right? She never made a gov’t cheese crack, huh?
Well, read on, folks.. See how she skillfully picks apart my comment and then drops a bomb in the process. Now, imagine having to deal with this on almost every thread you post on. Oh, but I hear she’s getting better..
http://www.tvgasm.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=10333
This is all so 2010..I don’t want drama and as long as Robin doesn’t come after me anymore, I promise I’ll do the same. Agreed?
@ Cattyfan, I love the DC podcast, if you haven’t heard it yet, they give their opinions on each of the shows for roughly an hour. It can be downloaded on I-tunes. When I was looking for soap podcasts, it was the only one I could find on I-Tunes. Because of it, I’m almost about to give up my SOD and SOW subscriptions! Almost….
I gave up SOD years ago. They were always behind everyone else on information…and they rely too heavily on the networks, so they water down their opinions.
What soaps do you watch?
Sorry guys.. i posted the wrong link.
http://www.tvgasm.com/newsgasms/kardashian-debit-card-canceled/
I don’t want to keep dragging this on, but just in case anyone clicked on the link and there was confusion, here is the correct one. Gov’t cheese, and all that good stuff.
Enjoy your day! I’m headed to the library. I’ve finished David Sedaris, (@Vallegirl, I’d never let Rooster train my dog, LOL!) and it’s time for a new book. Any other authors anyone can recommend?
Do you know how disturbing and upsetting these continued comments are???? Everytime I click on this thread to read….a picture of Gary Busey comes up! Uuuugghhhhhhh!!!!
Okay…so I broke down and read the “offending post.” And I have to tell you…to the uninitiated, it appeared to be a comment saying that kids who are given protections against making stupid mistakes, and then having to clean up the mess they’ve made, could very well grow up dependent on others to take care of their needs (for example, relying on government handouts to feed their family.) I would never have inferred that the writer was accusing another poster of behaving in that manner. And that’s the biggest problem with flat words on a page. Without knowing the inflection, it’s very easy to misinterpret things.
Maybe it’s a matter of knowing the backstory between you two, and therefore the involved parties are more sensitive to comments exchanged. I’m sorry it’s reached that point with the two of you.
The question is, how can we put an end to it, so the animosity doesn’t continue sucking the life out of the boards for everyone? How can we help broker a truce between you guys?
You’re right, Cattyfan. I guess, you would have to have read the forums and Twunty’s page to see that I was repeatedly called a ‘welfare mom’ to know what it was insinuating. So, I get what you’re saying.
I already posted that I won’t say anything else to Robin, and as long as she does the same, we should be fine. If no more MySharona’s pop up stirring the pot, that is. I’m all for a truce. I’m all for going forward and leaving this shit in 2010. I hope we can do that.
I have to agree with Catty. Robin didn’t say anything about you or your child in the thread you linked.
And because I am a bit couch bound today (my ankle is killing me), I’m reading the DC thread that started a lot of this and I am reading the thread that was on the forums. I think I am getting a pretty good idea of who did what here and there are NO innocents or victims.
@ Catty- I watch Y&R primarily, because the day Guiding Light was cancelled, a little piece of me died. I was big into Passions, before it went off the deep end in its last year, and I was a huge Port Charles fan (the half hour show, not GH!) Anyway, I’m down to one soap now, because I refuse to get too invested into another soap opera before they all get cancelled.
I’m not willing to devote my time to reviewing the original squabble. I’m more interested in the Little House On The Prairie rerun on the Hallmark channel…which means I’m A.) really bored B.) reliving my youth or C.) have zero interest in an old fight that doesn’t involve me, because I’m shallow and only interested in myself.
Regardless, I hope we all can go forward. This is where I come to get away from the petty fights of the day. Let’s get back to what’s important: skewering those big overpaid TV egos…not each other.
At DH: I used to follow a lot of ‘em, but am now down to Y&R and GH, and I peripherally follow OLTL. Oh, and I recently became hooked on the Robinez and sarcasatire Saga…but I’m hoping that show is just a miniseries and will be over soon.
The Robin/Sarcas drama is like a “very special” to-be-continued TVGasm episode on the perils of bullying.
Wow, just WOW! See what happens when I don’t read TVgasm for a few days – everything goes nuts! This has been an interesting read and I hope that, like cattyfan says, all can be forgotten with no more flamewars. I have no dogs in this fight and just want it to end. I have always loved reading the funny, irreverant comments on here. Can we please go back to the humour and snark, please?
To Robin and Sarcas; as far as I am concerned, you both are witty commenters who add a lot to this site. There can be an element of schadenfreude in observing a couple of commenters go after each other, but it gets tiresome when it is unending, and worrisome when a grudge match overshadows the work of the recappers and all the other commenters. I hope you will be able to ignore each other in the future so that we can all enjoy your viewpoints on the shows. Maybe take a lesson from the great Don Corleone, who after Sonny’s death decided to forgo his vengeance on his son’s killers. What? That was fiction? Well, it was still impressive and wise.
I had an ankle reconstruction surgery back in December and am still in physical therapy to make it behave like an ankle. Today we ran errands around the town center and I decided to wear a little bit of a heel (like 1.5 inches) because it has been doing so well. This is the first time I’ve worn any heel at all since my cast came off. Big mistake which I am now paying for. So here on the couch I sit with my foot up and covered in an ice pack. Ah well…
Anyway, I decided to go look at the source because so much of what is being done now is blamed on what came before with specific overtones of who was the bully and who was the victim. Given that the “govt cheese” accusation was completely baseless from what I saw, I wanted to see what originally happened. That way I could understand at least some of the history. Hopefully it won’t be needed.
Oh and did I mention that I am bored and couch-bound? I did? Ok good.
I hope that you feel better soon Snootchy. Crushed ice really does help, especially if it is in a Margarita!
Here’s one I just read about: rub some hot pepper over the ankle. The capsicum fools the brain into shifting its pain response there, while also stimulating blood flow around the injury. I haven’t tried it out yet, next time the ol’ back hurts, I’ll let you know.
Itchy – the hot pepper does work well but people with sensitive skin have to be very careful when using it – it can cause swelling if you are not careful! And make sure your hands are washed before touching the area around the eyes – I made the mistake of not doing that and was in severe pain for days.
Good grief, Snootchy! Take it easy on yourself. I had a partial tear of the Achilles tendon, and it took me nearly three years before I was back in heels. Give yourself some time.
itchy is right about fooling the body’s response. That’s one of the reason IcyHot works. It gives conflicting messages to the nerve receptors. The hot and cold also serve to relieve muscle tension, but the concept and product work on itching around incisions that are healing (but don’t get it ON the incision,) and it helps the muscles around a site that’s been damaged.
Feel better soon.
Wow. I take extreme pity on whoever has to do the “Best Of” commentgasm for this month . . .
Does the word “karma” mean nothing to you, Hypnotoad?
Only if it’s followed by the word “chameleon.”
I’d try the pepper thing, but I’m weird about putting anything on there. The scar is about 5″ long (not a straight line, it runs behind the ankle and then sort of curves under it) and I don’t want to irritate it. I only put some of that scar lotion-y shit that is supposed to make it look good or whatever.
Catty, I know… I know… But dangit, I haven’t been allowed to wear anything but trainers (running shoes) since my cast came off at the end of January. I am such a shoe whore! And I NEVER wear trainers. They just aren’t stylish enough! lol Plus the weather has been warm (warm for the UK anyway) and wanted to wear a skirt. So you see, your honor, I was obligated to try the heels. Right? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
The other thing my orthopedic surgeon told me is that vitamin E oil is good for the scar. When he took the bone out of my hand, he had me putting the oil on the scar three times a day. It was very soothing, and helped the healing process.
I forget the name of the stuff I use. It starts with an M, I think. But it has lots of good stuff in it like aloe vera. It is from the US. My surgeon was the best guy in this part of England and the scar is very narrow, but this stuff makes it look even better. I was worried at first because I love wearing sandals and didn’t want it to look gross. But it looks pretty good. Hardly noticable, really. Ok at the moment, it doesn’t look good because the ankle is all swollen, but you know what I mean. It will be back to normal by tomorrow.
Mederma, I think it is called. Good stuff.
I think this is the thread where THE FEUD began (rather than in the DC threads, where it continued): http://www.tvgasm.com/recaps/rhonj-beatdowns-and-shakedowns/
(Also, TwuntyMcSlore did leave/stop recapping due to “real life” problems she was having at the time, as she was often behind on recaps because of them, etc.)
If you read the thread where it all first happened, you can see there was a definite mob mentality that attacked Sarcasatire and wouldn’t let her go for a long time, no matter how often she tried to explain herself and even apologize. I think she is still hurt by the past and that causes her to go on the defense or think she is being attacked even when she is not (understandable, but still, she should try a lot harder to ignore people).
One commenter mentioned that because this is all just flat text we project and interpret in our own ways and due to what we know of backstory, which is totally right and makes a lot of bickering just useless.
Namaste!
This is one of those times that I should probably not post. But you know what… fuck it.
I just finished reading the VERY long forum thread that was previously discussed. After having read the comment above from Lurker in support of Sarcas, I found it very strange that it ended in Namaste as that is how Sarcas ended many of her posts in that thread. Probably just a coincidence.
I think the most offensive post on there is the one bashing Twunty for being late with a recap…and the implication by the same nasty poster that writing these recaps isn’t hard.
Wow, Snootchy, are you suggesting I am posting as Lurker? Just…wow. I see you’ve really sunk your teeth in and won’t let go. I thought things had died down? I thought the subject was dead and everyone wanted to move on. I agreed to stay away from Robin. Is that not enough? Must you still keep it going with wacky conspiracy theories?
Maybe if you kick the horse one more time, he’ll wake up.
So Snooty you were the other guest in that 52 page thread? I spent the better part of my afternoon reading it. Hey, I’ve got a cold. lol I’ve got absolutely no personal history here, so I approached reading with an open mind. I was fired up and wrote a longass post. And the damn captcha code nailed me. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr I’m not going to rewrite, but it’s more than obvious who the aggressor’s been. Or should I say the passive aggressor?
Getting the last word in might make a person feel better, but it’s purely a selfish thing. It does nothing for the community. I’m a newbie here, but I’ve never been a quiet woman. After reading Flipit’s heartfelt response at the end of that thread, I most certainly hope the person who always needs to have the last 1,000 words recognizes that that’s not what’s best for the site.
Ack! I just realized your name is Snootchy, not Snooty. I’ve read it wrong these past few months. My apologies. So, this newbie’s not good with names or captcha codes. =P
Listen, Robin and I brought up the history of our conflict to shed light on why it may seem like we are always going at it not for others to now go 6-7 months into the past and pick a side. That’s counterproductive to the peace we are all hoping to attain. Robin and I both agreed to put it behind us. Now, for the sake of the site, can others do the same?
@sarcas, I did put it aside. In fact, if you notice, you will see that I was talking about my ankle. Then Lurker posted what seemed to me to be a very biased comment which didn’t agree with the facts as I had just read them… and ended the post with a phrase you use quite often (or at least did at the time). That person started the comment back up. But why aren’t you saying anything to them about kicking the horse. Oh yeah… because they were supporting you in your claims to being bullied and victimized. Got it. And I don’t know if you are the same person as Lurker or if Lurker is your sister or if Lurker is your neighbor or if Lurker is a total stranger. To be honest, I could give a flying fuck. I just found it to be a strange coincidence. And I refuse to be named as the one who is now making you the victim. Sorry, won’t work with me.
Furthermore, if I counted on all of my fingers and toes I couldn’t count all of the times that you and others have supposedly squashed beefs. So why would I think it is over now. I have read a lot of your accusations which sounded really bad. Not having been involved in the majority of the stuff that happened, I took you at your word. But now I have gone over and read all of the stuff that happened… recaps and forums. Why did I do that? Because every time it starts fresh (which is your doing at least half the time), you allude to the previous goings on as being the reason. Now, if you start it up again, I will know what happened previously and can call you on your bullshit. Hopefully you won’t. I mean that sincerely. Please don’t ever start it up again. It ruins the site. Let’s all be adults and snark without being passive aggressive.
@Where’s My Coffee? – Yep, that was me. I noticed that there was a guest reading it with me. lol And no worries about the name. Lots of people say Snooty. I don’t mind. As long as you don’t call me a bad word, then I’ll have to cut a bitch.
Hey, you were the one posting the links. Don’t put it out there if you don’t want it commented upon. =) Even though you started it with Robin in this thread, I was on your side strictly because you
had nice things to say about Kim Richards in the RHoBH threads. Something wasn’t sitting right when I saw these little fights pop up, so I was interested in the back story. You posted it to make others see how mean others were, and truthfully, I was hoping I’d find that you were right. But the effect was the opposite. I didn’t have a mother who handed down folksy, time tested advice, so I have to make up an old sounding expression of my own. Don’t air your dirty laundry, if it’s got stains.
Put it to rest for reals this time.
Another faux pas for me tonight. My post above was directed @sarcasatire. The post from Snootchy wasn’t there yet as I was writing.
I’ll get the hang of this place yet. I promise. lol
Hmm… we were reading at the same time. Then we were commenting at the same time. What are you doing later? Bom chika wow wow!
Aaaaaaannddd the thread takes a turn for the x-rated. LOL
If you want to take a bath, I’m going to have to do 4 shots of tequila and down a goblet of wine. Bom chika wow wow! lol
Catty, it had to happen. Donchaknow!
WMC? – Ok, you start the water and I’ll bring the Mr. Bubble!
Mr Bubble in the tubble keeps you squeaky clean
Mr Bubble in the tubble leaves no bathtub ring
Well…if yer gonna do this, do it right. Webcast.
Snootchy, I said I was letting it go but now you accuse me of sending friends and neighbors here to do my bidding. Wouldn’t you defend yourself if someone was making untrue accusations about you?
@Where’smycoffee; I posted it by mistake, honestly. I was going to post it but changed my mind for the newsgasm thread. But I didn’t copy the link properly and didn’t notice until after it was sent. (one of the days I’ve wished for an edit function, lol) But i only really brought up the past because i was accused of sending people away from the site, including Twunty, which isn’t true.
I’m not trying to rehash the past to make people pick a side. When it comes to how people judge me, I would want it to be on the rapport they have built with me themselves, not by taking sides in a silly fight that they weren’t a part of.
I, for one, don’t want anyone to leave..only that we coexist peacefully and I’ll play my part in it and ignore slights, real or imagined. I love the witty comments here and already apologized upthread for my actions in taking away from everyone’s experience of fun and snark.
So..on a lighter note, who’s excited to see Dionne’s dentures tomorrow? What kind of gum do you think she chews? (My money is on Juicy Fruit) My friend told me that Dionne was/is dating the super hot Miami Vice guy for 25 years! Hmmm…maybe that’s why she’s so damn cocky.
Wait…Dionne and PHILIP MICHAEL THOMAS???? Noooooooo. How disappointing. Although he’s had so much botox, he now looks like an aging mannequin. Of course from that era I was always more of a Michael Warren kind of girl.
Cattyfan: It gets worse. Apparently they even did a duet called Love Wrote This Song, circa ’91.
And according to Wikipedia: “In 1994, Thomas signed an agreement with Florida-based Psychic Reader’s Network to become the spokesman for the Philip Michael Thomas Psychic Connection.”
So, not only was he her lover, he was her Psychic friend!
You KNOW I’m gonna feel constrained to gooogle up a audio sample of that tripe before I head to bed. Because I just don’t have enough bad dreams.
This is for the admins: sarcasatire has access to our IP addresses? Does she work for the site? And since she raised the issue of IP addresses, does she or does she not use alts on here.
Please clarify, I am very disturbed that she has that kind of access to posters personal info, and this may determine whether or not I feel comfortable even reading this site.
Absolutely not. No one has access to ip addresses. Don’t worry.
I never said I had access to anyone’s IP address. When I was accused of doing so, I posted in comment #77: “Of course, I don’t check IP addy’s, how would I do that?”
And here were are..once again someone pops up with silly and baseless accusations.
But who cares, the Apprentice recap is up! I’m off to read, and hope to see you guys over there!
Is she using alts?
@Sarcas, they may be referring to one of those old posts. Because I specifically saw you bring up IP addresses in it with regards to PCheez supposedly bringing alts in to support her own arguments against you. They made the same arguments against you but without specifically mentioning IP addresses. When I read your comment back then, it made me wonder whether you had access to IP addresses too. I checked out the user info on the member lists and saw that I couldn’t see anything so I figured you couldn’t either.
Oops, I was wrong. It was on this thread. Sorry… read a bunch of stuff yesterday so it all blended together. Specifically, Sarcas said:
“You know..I’m starting to see a bit of a pattern here. I always find it so interesting that the person who stirs the pot the heaviest is always a ‘first time commenter’(check the IP address, and it will say differently) who claims to have been reading the comments ‘forever’ and can perfectly ascertain who’s right and who’s wrong in every conflict. I find it equally interesting that being ‘a long time reader of TVGasm’, they have only ever felt the need to comment on conflicts between posters and not on anything positive or humorous, you know, like the main content on the site. But what interests me the most, is that they NEVER appear until the conflict has died down, using their first time post on a site they’ve visited for years, to kick up dust and start a fight.”
This was directed at MySharona and the only reason I bring it up is because she didn’t make the same fuss at Lurker who did the exact same thing as MySharona except that they were on Sarcas’ side.
Dead horse is dead. LET IT REST. I personally am PISSED that that the westside story lyrics game didn’t catch on! Where are our priorities people?!
I want to know if she’s using alts because if she is then she’s manipulating all of us, and I think we have the right to know who we’re dealing with. A lot of accusations have been tossed around, posters have left and not been back, yet the problems continue. Is she using alts or not, let’s put the matter to rest.
She can state her case if she is, maybe she has a reasonable explanation for using multiple identities, I for one would like to hear that explanation and brush all the BS aside.
Sorry, Ummmm, I’m not familiar with you as a poster… but anyone could potentially create ‘alts’ if they wanted to. Whether it’s the case, it’s neither here nor there. I doubt someone would own up to it if they were indeed doing so. I don’t need an explanation, nor do I feel one is owed. Stop the pot-stirring. The website has so many better discussions, insights, and comments to focus on and contribute to.
I will ask questions as I see fit. The pot-stirring didn’t begin with me, I’m not asking sarcasatire if she’s using alts, I’m asking Flipit.
Is this person using alternate identities to create, manipulate or feed into controversy? It’s a simple question, and easily answered. I think the answer will go a long way toward ending this relentless back and forth.
Jesus. After reading all these posts and following the links, I no longer want to be involved at all with at least three regular posters on this board, possibly four and I really don’t find this amusing anymore. I merely thought it was a case of two regular posters who were like oil & water–didn’t realize there was an entire feud behind the whole thing. So, no fire extinguisher, just therapy for all takers, maybe?
My suggestion is that if you feel you’re being piled on to send a pm to Flipit and let him handle it if he feels it is necessary. I’m personally glad that TVGasm doesn’t have too much moderation because TWOP is ridiculously over-moderated to the point of treating its posters like kindergartners.
I think if I were being attacked every time I went to a site, had complained to the site manager, and was still being attacked anyway, I’d just pack up and leave. I wouldn’t try to tie up the comment sections with my grievances. I don’t know. But no, this is too much.
I do miss Twunty. I did follow the link to the supposedly offending recap and didn’t think that she was being racist, just making fun of Teresa and the Jersey wives. I know she did mention having issues at home, so I just assumed that was why she left, but I remember her fondly.
This, too: there are recappers I don’t particularly like, so I either read the recap and don’t comment at all or just read the comments. It’s possible to navigate this site without having an ongoing war with anyone. Of course, there will be squabbles here and there, but all of this just goes way beyond that, doesn’t it?
captain-save-uh-hoe…just for you.
The Jets are in gear,
Our cylinders are clickin’!
The Sharks’ll steer clear
‘Cause ev’ry Puerto Rican’s a lousy chicken!
Here come the Jets
Like a bat out of hell.
Someone gets in our way,
Someone don’t feel so well!
Here come the Jets:
Little world, step aside!
Better go underground,
Better run, better hide!
We’re drawin’ the line,
So keep your noses hidden!
We’re hangin’ a sign,
Says “Visitors forbidden”
And we ain’t kiddin’!
Here come the Jets,
Yeah! And we’re gonna beat
Ev’ry last buggin’ gang
On the whole buggin’ street!
On the whole!
Ever!
Mother!
Lovin’!
Street!
Yeah!
(my priorities are straight…)
Hi Ummmm, I’m not sure if you’re familiar with pm’s (personal messages) but if you log onto your account in the forums section, you can send a pm to Flipit with any questions, concerns you might have! He is great about responding in a timely manner and I’m sure he can address any worries you might have. Thanks!
Cattyfan, you are the Tony to my Maria, the yin to my yang, the mac to my cheese… just landed in Juno territory. It was on yesterday. Forgive me.
Well…that’s gonna be awkward, since I’m female
LOL
I agree with the lax moderation policies, but the use of alts is universally considered to be harmful to comment boards. If alts are being used, then we have right to know that – tolerance is fine as long as there is some degree of transparency.
No CSUH, I prefer to have my question answered in an open forum, but thanks for your input Julie McCoy.
So you care about privacy or you don’t? Confusing.
To the best of my knowledge, the answer is no. I can’t tell who is
using “alts”. If you get a new ip addy how should I know what your
original was? For example, your ip addy just showed up today. So is
that an alt? I would guess yes. Who cares? I certainly don’t. Sorry to sound bitchy but
this is old. Grow up.
Interesting response.
You wouldn’t happen to one and the same with this Ummmm would you?
i dont know if you’ve noticed but this whole thing is getting old and so are you. the recaps are stupid and it’s the same ass kissers leaving comments….somebody needs to recap your recaps…..and i’d leave the good mother comments to the people who have kids. people in glass houses shouldnt throw stones
ummmm | 29 of 54 Comments | Posted on July 12, 2010 5:17 pm
i’m pretty sure you’re white because only white people make ignorant comments about others looking like primates. it’s offensive……and i am CERTAIN u have no idea why….but go ahead and keep on stealing other people jokes because you have none of your own….very clever…NEXT!
ummmm | 31 of 54 Comments | Posted on July 12, 2010 7:22 pm
If you are then if memory serves me correctly, you are the one who instigated a lot of the shit before. You find now to be an opportune time for more pot stirring? There were so many more posts similar to this.
Snootchy, I really don’t know what your deal is. First you say you want the drama between Robin and myself to be over, yet here you are, dragging on the drama. Especially bringing up issues long ago resolved. Like 130 comments ago. Goodness grief, lol.
Thanks for posting what I said. That way, anyone with common sense can see that I was pointing out that checking the IP addys was a way to see if two posters were posting from the same location. Never did I say that I checked the addys, nor did I say I had access to them. I even clarified it, 2 posts later in comment #77. So, why wasn’t that put to bed?? Why are you still kicking the damn horse?
You went from earlier in the thread to saying ‘Sarcas, I love ya..” to being completely involved in a forum war that ended last Oct. You’re taking sides and it was done months ago. As I said, I have no problems with the majority of the people who have previously posted against me in that forum thread, so that should tell you something.
Yet you keep bringing up issues that were long ago resolved, Snootchy. Or making inane comments that I am posting as other people. Upthread, after Mysharona’s unwarranted attack, Captain save-uh-hoe mentioned “Forumgate” as a way of providing background info to the conflict, not to start the war again, with new players. Captain mentioned that she shared my point of view in some aspects of the conflict, so does that now mean Captain is a alt of mine? What about Derek Hazleton?
I’ve been posting at the Gasm for quite a while and have established a great rapport with many commenters here. I’ve made a lot more friends than enemies, that’s for sure. So, I don’t see why it’s so unbelievable that someone would come to my defense or see things from a similar POV. Then there’s the underlying implication that I am so awful, so deplorable a person, that the only person on the Gasm that can say a kind word about me, is myself.
I never had an issue with you, Snootchy, but if you want to judge me based on a conflict that you aren’t a part of, I could live with that. But you and Ummm dragging things on by drumming up consipiracy theories/accusations is just embarrassing. For you.
I mean, you can just scroll upwards and refer to comment 103, where I already laid out my diabolical plan of evilly evilness. See, I told you..issues long ago resolved. HA!
@Stewinberri. No, not the same one.
Really? mmkay
Ummm.. you wanted Flipit to call out those who he thinks is using ‘alts’, right?
Flipit’s response: “your ip addy just showed up today. So is
that an alt? I would guess yes.”
Question, you got answered.
Not to worry, Sarcasatire, I’m on your side in this whole shebang. But, you really need to let it go. I know, it’s difficult and all, but you just have to let these people post their garbage and let it slide off your back.
First of all, because the rest of us HATE when people sling personal insults here. It’s one of the best parts of TVGasm, that this sort of thing rarely happens.
And I’m counting on the saner element to step up when it happens and shut it down. And this is indeed what usually happens.
Second of all, because, although I’ve seen you defend yourself a lot, I’ve rarely seen you sling insults in the process — and I think most of the people here recognize this too (or they should).
You don’t need to defend yourself to us.
In the meantime, thirdly, you’re one of the more active commenters here and on the whole your comments are always quite chipper and aimed where they should be, at the ridiculous television shows we all love.
So here’s what I’m asking — because I consider you to be the bigger person — PLEASE do not respond to these people anymore.
Let the rest of us do that. The moment anyone steps out of line, we will shut them down — verbally that is.
We don’t want no stinkin’ moderators here. We just want people to be civil with each other, so we can all laugh at the people on our tv screens together.
So for you and your fanclub, here’s a good test: the moment you start typing “you” in anything but a complimentary, friendly fashion, you’re probably walking on shaky ground. Think twice. Don’t post. Simple, right?
Don’t make me come up there!
Anyhoo, the Alice Cooper version is the best. The Jets Theme, I mean.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxijgJWdFWY (the actual theme starts around 3:15)
Flipit exercised quite a leap in logic, he also seems overly hostile to a new commenter who asked a valid question given the circumstances.
I’m not an alt, but no one will believe that since the site administrator chose to answer the question in the manner he did. It’s not a big deal, I think I have a pretty good idea where the problems lie.
Namaste.
Geez…for a second there I thought itchy was saying Alice Cooper did a version of “God Only Knows,” too. And that kind of frightened me a little.
Itchy, thanks for that. And you’re right on all points. I will heed your advice. Which means, I’ve already said too much. I’ll never speak of it again.
Sorry Ummmm, just trying to be helpful and direct you to where you could get the answers to your repeated questions. And since Julie had a fabulous set of hair, I’ll take that as a compliment! xo
@Catty– haha I figured!! But the Tony to my Maria I just couldn’t resist!
@Itchy- totally checking out that link later tonight!
So that there is no confusion about motives, I am going to list out my experience with this issue and how my thoughts evolved as it unfolded. It happened in this order.
1. I recalled some bad feelings on the board and a general hubub where Flipit came in and squashed beef. I left Tvgasm for a while during this time for semi-related reasons. I didn’t specifically know or remember who was involved just that there was fighting.
2. I’ve been back for quite a while now and I have seen repeated beefs between you and Robin.
3. EVERY time there is a beef between you and Robin, you deny that you ever have any responsibility for it either because Robin started it, because it was related to something that started last year or because it was just innocent sarcasm and you don’t know why Robin would react like that to you. In other words, you are always either the victim or misunderstood, but never at fault.
4. I took you at face value and believed your story of being a victim. After all, I don’t really know Robin other than from the beefs the two of you have had. You and I have interacted a lot on a couple of the shows so I knew you better. And in general we have always gotten along. However, I have noticed certain behaviors from you, but I didn’t give them much weight.
5. Lately, and most recently on this thread, I noticed that you were the one to start it with Robin. When this was pointed out to you by Robin, you claimed complete and total innocence and pointed the finger at her for starting it. And then YOU brought up what happened last year. When others, including myself, supported Robin’s assertion that your original comment to her was inflamatory, you sort of half way took responsibility, but blamed it ultimately on everything she did to you last year.
6. Then MySharona came on talking about what happened last year not in support of you. Then Captain Save a ho continued talking about last year in support of you. Then you and others got into the fray and there was still a lot of referencing last year. At this point I have not mentioned a thing about last year. But you have. As have others.
7. You mention me by name as having admonished Robin on another thread for starting with you. You had mentioned this same thing earlier in the thread, but not specifically by name. So I answered this reminding you that yes I did call her out on it on that thread, but that I had also called YOU out on it on this thread. This is a pattern I see. There is very little recognition of your own behavior because you are always pointing out the behavior of the other person. And that is why I told you both to stop and just be cool. Oh and I still hadn’t mentioned anything about last year.
8. You reply to me saying at first that you take responsibility for what you said in this thread but then immediately start talking about how Robin is ultimately at fault. So no, that is NOT owning your own part in anything. But I didn’t bother saying anything about it.
9. Then Robin wrote a huge post giving her side of the story and mentioned last year but didn’t go into detail. I replied in a neutral fashion once again telling you both to own your part in it and to just ignore the other one. Oh… and if you are keeping score, I still hadn’t mentioned what happened last year.
10. You replied and went into great detail about what happened last year. It sounded really terrible and I felt bad for what you went through.
11. Then you posted that Robin made a comment about you and your child and welfare and govt cheese or whatever and gave a link. And I went to that link, but Robin hadn’t said anything about you at all with regards to that. NOTHING. Now I am starting to wonder. Because one side of the story is rarely correct.
12. When I and others comment that we didn’t see Robin say anything of the sort, we were told that it had to be viewed within the context of everything that happened last year. Oh by the way, I still haven’t brought up anything about last year.
13. So I googled sarcasatire and prodigal cheez and read the pages that came up. This included the recaps where arguments took place as well as the “burn book” as you call it. Yep, I read all 50-some odd pages. And I also went to Twunty’s blog and read the posts during that time. Your comments had been deleted but I saw how upset they were about what you had said there. And, to be honest, it pissed me off. Because you continue to represent yourself as the victim and yet you gave AT LEAST as much as you got. I felt a little sucked in by your bullshit. I’m not saying you didn’t get any abuse. But you certainly started a lot of the shit that went on. And in some cases you restarted it once it died down. Something I have seen you do because you must have the last word. You are a victim like Camille is a victim. “They are so meannnnn to meeeeeeeeee. I have feeeeeeeelings.”
So that is the progression I took. And for you to say that I dragged up the stuff from last year is LAUGHABLE! Absolutely laughable. I wouldn’t have even gone back and read everything if you hadn’t mentioned it repeatedly and then gave a link as “proof” which only proved the opposite of what you hoped. So don’t try pointing the finger at me now as bullying you. You are no victim, honey. So change the record and get a new shtick.
I don’t have any problems interacting with you in future. I have interacted with you fine in the past. However, my eyes are open. So if you continue to start shit, it will be called out. I hope it doesn’t come to that. I wouldn’t bother posting if there wasn’t some sort of hope that this will allow you to recognize your own part in what has happened with you on this website. I love this site. I want it to be fun and funny for all. And conflict doesn’t support that. And with that said, this is my last comment on this thread about this bullshit situation. I’m sure you will need to reply and that’s fine. I understand you like having the last word. I have nothing to prove, so I’ll let you have the last word. I’ve said what I wanted to say and explained why my attitude has changed.
Can’t wait to see the Nene/Star blow up tonight! It is far more entertaining than any of this nonsense.
How’s the ankle doing, Snootch? Still stuck on the couch?
It is much better today thanks. Not stuck on the couch, but my ass was on it for a while typing out that 700 page friggin post! I took so long that there were a TON of posts that weren’t there before. lol
Hubby and I just finished dinner a bit ago. We had something from Top Chef, but I’ll wait until the recap to talk about it.
Snootchy Bootches…I have to say, I admire your commitment, thoroughness, and patience. I have none of those things when it comes to these kinds of tiffs.
In the past I’ve stepped in the middle of things here by accident…and because Robin agreed with me on something political I had said, I got painted with the same brush. For a while I had people making comments to me with a level of disdain or vitriol, and I had no idea why. Now I certainly have a better understanding since I was perceived to be on the side of an argument I didn’t even know existed…and now wish I didn’t know about at all.
I would like to see the people who claim they will let it drop ACTUALLY DO SO. Are they capable of letting someone else have the last word? I’m betting not…but maybe I’ll be proven wrong.
I’m with Snootchy, though. I have no quarrel with either side, and (hopefully) will continue to interact here with no residual animosity.
In the meantime, I’m wondering…what’s the record for number of comments on a recap?
232
Really? Then I’m…um…proud to be part of this momentous occasion.
Nah, I made that up. It’s really 234.
Hey maybe we can keep this going to 300 to get in that I HATE THERESA that we missed.
I don’t get out much. Who is Theresa, and why am I hating her? (I’m prepared to do my part. Just tell me why, please.)
@Snootchy – re Twunty’s blog. Sarcasatire posted P Cheez’s personal and private info on Twunty’s blog. I liked P Cheez but thought she overreacted over all, but I changed my mind when I saw that. According to PC sarcasatire started emailing threatening messages to her unpublished email addy.
PC made it clear she felt that her IP address was given to sarcasatire, and that she was being stalked through illegal means. That’s why I am asking Flipit these questions, and I don’t understand why he is being so hostile. I always thought he was a nice guy.
Catty, look on the front page under the Newsgasm stuff. See the one about Juicy going to jail? The cavewoman next to him is Theresa. A funny side effect of reading all of that old stuff yesterday is that I ended up reading a lot about Theresa and the other New Jersey housewives. I watched the show but wasn’t on the ‘gasm much so I missed the discussion about them. She is something else. Let’s hope that when she was born they broke the mold. And beat the shit out of the moldmaker, too!
Got it. Many thanks.
I’ll go forth and read…and get my hate on.
No hostility intended. I thought that stuff was history. Seeing it all brought back puts me in the fetal position. Sorry.
Look everyone! A video of cats playing Patty Cake:
http://www.misscellania.com/miss-cellania/2010/11/28/talking-cats-play-pat-a-cake.html
I was just thinking that! “Where was the 200th post of ‘I hate Theresa!’?” Actually, my FIRST thought was “This ‘About Last Night’ thread is still alive?!” I had to come see why.
I’m loving Celebrity Apprentice and am looking forward to tonight’s episode.
Hey I was going to ask the same question, about the record number of comments thing.
By the way Snootch (referring to comment #9), I built my own outhouse, it’s the greatest thing. I’ll have to watch out for snakes though.
And Ummm — I’m presuming Flipit’s hackles are up because it certainly does appear as if you’ve only just joined here to stir up shit. I don’t recall seeinig your screenname before, at any rate. Sure, I could be wrong. But that’s the way it appears.
So. Please stop. Just drop it. This does not concern you at all. We’re here to make fun of television shows.
My post was in response to comment #234. In the length of time it took me to peck out my response on this Ipad, many comments were posted in between. Who said touch screen was so great?!
After reading this thread, I had the almost uncontrollable urge to stand up like Taylor from RHOBH and yell “ENOUGH! ENOUGH! ENOUGH!”
Glad that is over. I didn’t see West Side Story, but I know all the lyrics to the songs from Grease 2!! Cool Rider anyone? Anyone??
I’m so confused – I have NO idea what the original point of this thread was. Maybe a double vodka will help refresh my memory.
You’re wrong @itchy, sarcasatire raised a question about her access to IP addresses that should concern everyone. I asked valid questions, you just don’t like them or me for that matter. At any rate, I don’t answer to you.
Flipit, thanks for the explanation.
I won’t be back, so don’t worry. I enjoyed reading this site off and on for a few years, but I haven’t commented for years. I weighed in today because I was curious about the IP address thing, I didn’t realize that was an off limits topic.
I don’t participate in blogs much, but I guess I never expected to be treated so badly, FWIW there are some really nasty people on here. Good luck with everything at any rate.
In Flipit’s defense, it’s easy for a recapper to become a little trite when stuff like this happens, because all the comments get sent to the recapper’s email address. And when your phone is connected to your email . . .
Ironically, I was kicked off the TWOP site for posting a one word comment: “Um…”
Hypnotoad, I forgot to reference your hilarious comment earlier about Karma Chameleon. Well done!
I was a minute part of the “flamewars of 2010.
I feel ashamed I was part of it.
I feel ashamed that I would put an opinion out there on another poster when in actually I was never asked for an opinion.
I cringe whenever I see someone talk about it.
Therefore if I cringe it means I did something that I should apologise for. I apologise to flipit, twunty, sarcastire, pcheez, robyn, and bahyrupia.
It is easier to skim over a post that may step on you nerves, rather that having to either defend yourself in a post (over and over) or swat away your conscious because may have hurt someone else with your “wit”.
This is a great place.
The recappers and this site deserve better.
thiajok — Ha, ha! Thanks!
And well said, Sheesh!
Sheesh! I too, fall in the same category as you. Couldn’t have said it better myself. We live, we learn! Happy to still be here at the ‘gasm enjoy the great recaps!
I HATE THERESA. I hate her as much as me wasting almost two hours reading every single link and comment on this stupid thing.
I have been on this site for a while. 99% of the time I love it but this is the 1% I hate. I hate old arguments being brought up, especially about stupid crap. I was there for the original she-bang and quite frankly, it even more infuriating reading it the second time around, especially when my original comment was taken out of context and whatever. I don’t like being reminded of history.
I have always respected sarcastire and while I may not have liked her comments at first, I have learned to respect Robinez because once the beef between her, sarcastire, and sometimes P Cheez finally ended, the tension started to die down and made me see people for just their funny comments and not wonder in the back of my mind if their comment is a backyard diss. It was on both sides but I somehow was prejudiced against Robin and I apologize for that. Robin is really funny and quite sincere. I enjoy her comments now immensely.
I don’t comment as much as usual besides telling people the recap was great because these wars are really sad. It reminds me of a dark time in TVGasm history. I am not trying to keep stirring the pot and it made seem it, but it really is depressing to read and to not try to put my two cents in.
I love you all regardless.
P.S.-I also read Twunty’s old recap on that episode and it made me miss her recaps terribly. Leia has done a good job keeping the mantle though.
I made the decision months ago to stop commenting on anything here at tvgasm. However, I have to come out of my lurker mode to comment on the current thread as I am one of the people involved in sarcasatire, robin, pcheez and twunty’s history here. First, I was the one who first accused sarcasatire of having multiple alts. The vernacular and pacing of some posters was too similar. This WAS confirmed to me in a personal email. It also was confirmed in the forums in a post by flipit that was later removed, but not before being seen by someone in Asia. So at least two commenters know for sure that tvgasm administrators knew sarcasatire was using at least one other persona to back herself up. Second, I am friends with PCheez off of this site and in real life. Sarcasatire published personal information about her at Twunty’s blog that she should have had no way of knowing unless someone at tvgasm gave sarcasatire her name. So, for those of you who aren’t too worried about sarcasatire implying she can check IP addresses, you should be.
chemgal…I’ve missed you
I’ve missed you guys too, but had to remove myself from the insanity. Been lurking for a bit and watching things, but staying out of any of the dust ups. Couldn’t this time.
Itchy, I’m gonna take your advice and ignore the lies slung at me by chemgal. But I will come on in defense of Flipit, who works tirelessly here and has said repeadtedly to end the drama. Now, things have calmed down ONCE AGAIN and another conspiracy is launched, with Tvgasm, Flipit, and myself in a conspiracy of plotting against posters. It’s so absurd and unfair to Flipit. Attack me with your baseless accusations, but now you’re back here to slam him? Sorry, that’s just wrong.
@Sarcasatire, I made no mention of a conspiracy. I am just warning folks. Flipit denied knowing you used at least one other alt, which he confirmed to me in a personal email that he did know of at least one. He also admitted it in the housewives forum, it was seen by someone who lives in Asia and a different time zone. It was taken down before others could see it. The integrity of the entire site is in question.
And you are going to deny posting pcheez’s name, place of work, hometown on twunty’s blog? Is that a baseless accusation?
I didn’t see any accusations about Flipit being involved in any conspiracy…or all of TVGasm. I read a post which said Flipit had confirmed some suspicians, and a public post by him had been removed. And that somehow sarcastire had goten information from someone…but there are quite a few people at TVGasm, are there not?
I have exhanged many e-mails over the years with Flipit, and trust him. He even has an open invitation to our home. I don’t see him ever doing anything to damage the integrity of this site.
And I don’t see chemgirl accusing Flipit of anything.
@cattyfan – I am accusing someone at tvgasm. I don’t know who does what, so I don’t know who to accuse. But as I stated, sarcasatire had prodigal cheeze’s name, place of work, hometown and other information that had to have come from someone linked to tvgasm.
@chem – is there a way I can contact you privately?
Right…but you did not indict ALL of TVGasm, nor did you call out Flipit in particular.
@ummmmmm, I don’t know if my pm is still up and running here or not. you can try to do so through there.
I’m sure, it won’t be necessary to clear Flipit’s name, because we all know he would never give me PCheez’s name. But I’ll let you all know that a few months ago, I checked out Twunty’s site and saw that PCheez posted my private email as well as the name of the blog I write for and Twunty didn’t delete it. I was furious. I’d never posted on her site, so she probably didn’t know I knew. So, I looked Twunty up on facebook, which is easy..she goes by the name twunty mcslore, and has less than 50 friends. Of course, we all know what PCheez looks like so her fb page was easy to locate, so I sent her a message. She and Twunty blocked me immediately, but my info stayed on the site. So, in retaliation, not the smartest move, but how the hell did she find my info?? and the nerve to post it!, I did post Cheez’s name. But i never said it was cheez. I just said I had a stalker named——— and she has no business posting my info on here. My post was deleted in less than 5 mins, but my pvt info stayed. Of course, Twunty’s blog is now pvt so who knows how much else has been posted about me, but what can u do?
So, you can get the idea of Flipit as the traitorous puppetmaster out of your head. It was silly even to suggest it. But, I’m not surprised by these kind of stunts.
@cattyfan, true! And in the end, one can argue that it doesn’t matter if someone is here as one persona or 15. My concern and the reason I stayed inactive is the breach in security. Things get heated up and some people, including sarcasatire seem overly enthusiastic in winning disagreements. I think everyone should be concerned. Pcheez posted that her information got into sarcasatire’s hands in the forums, but they don’t get as much traffic. When sarcasatire brought up looking at IP addresses in this thread, my radar started pinging.
So saying someone is giving me IP addresses and personal emails, who else would have access to that but Flipit? The recappers? C’mon, we knew what she was saying. If she meant another poster gave me the info, then she would have named the poster. She is blaming someone who works for the Gasm. Whatevs..it’s pure and utter bs. good night.
Sarcasatire is lying. P Cheez never published any info about her. PC was clear. She was contacted through her private, unpublished email. Sarcasatire spoke publicly of her blog, that is public information PC’s info was nit.
@sarcasatire – I found your blog. You posted here about a nursing bra you won. I was having misgivings about you and thought I would do some googling. You post at various blogs with the same or very similar screen name. you have included tons of personal information about yourself here. Given a few hours, I could probably draft a pretty decent time line of your life if I wanted just using the information you have provided on your own. your blog wasn’t private, it was public. At least at the time, I haven’t been back to check if its private now.
The real question that won’t be asked (or answered) is how Pcheez found MY info. At the time, I had no fb affiliations on Facebook, nor did I ever even mention that I write for a blog. But then I remember, she works for a computer tech company. And a few things become clear.
You can avoid it and try to deflect it, but you somehow got personal information. And yes, I am accusing someone at TVgasm, I am pretty sure I didn’t sugarcoat it.
@chemgal, I use my real name on my blog and not a screen name, so to find the blog, you would have had to have found out my real name. And I NEVER post my real name..anywhere.
But good to know you were also googling me. Not creepy at all.
Still lying. The bullshit flag is flying high tonight sarcasatire. Oddly, the forum posts that relate to this have all disappeared.
We must have been typing at the same time, because I stated how I found your PUBLIC information.
Self preservation is never creepy, its mandatory.
You are also coming dangerously close to slander.
Soooooo no takers on Grease 2 songs?
Chemgal..I’m wondering if you glossed over comment #262 or if you really read it. Because I explained how I got her name, after I saw her posts. But I also want to say, that despite unfairly accusing TVgasm of taking sides in a petty squabble, I would like to say I appreciate the fact that you did not deny that you knew about my blog and my name. Because it would seem like a ludicrous lie for me to say that I saw my blog posted on Twunty’s site, and you guys claim you didn’t even know I write for one. Trust me, I was super surprised to see it mentioned by name.
@sarcasatire, you are using to your advantage the fact that you know I won’t share how I found you because even though there have been issues here, I wouldn’t out anyone. It wasn’t creepy at all and not hard. So don’t try to play it off as such. Again, anyone could have done it. You can claim your name wasn’t attached, but it was.
@thatswhatshesaid, I’ll have to get back to you I only know the chorus of cool rider and one line for lets do it for our country.
@Chemgal: LOL!!
Um, I’m pretty sure I’m the “someone who lives in Asia and a different time zone” who may have seen what Flipit did or did not post. I’m not gonna say what I did or didn’t see, because I’d rather not get involved. Just know that I live in Japan and am more worried about the current nuclear crisis than THIS.
I tried to bring myself to post some lyrics to Rock-A-Hula-Luau…but I just couldn’t do it.
@sweet_dee, not you. Not mentioning who, not because of a conspiracy, but for a similar reason as you stated. And again, having various alts is a smokescreen concern, the bigger issue is the integrity of the site.
Sweet_Dee, you’re in our thoughts!
@Sweet_Dee: AMEN!
@Catty Fan: I love Girl for all Seasons. Is it sad that it’s on my iPod?
Let’s give poor Flipit a break. Sunday is supposed to be a day of rest.
We can fight again tomorrow. I kid! I kid!
(*Note: The day of rest comment wasn’t intended to divide or offend; just lighten the mood. I don’t want to start trouble. That said, I’m going to bed.)
I, too, need sleep. One thing, though. Please type my name as all one word. I discovered there is someone else who has begun posting as “Catty Fan” on some sites.
I’ve been using this name for nine years Is nothing sacred? Lol
I am a lurker. I have only commented a couple times with a name I don’t even remember.
But please tell me you people know this is ridiculous. This FEUD has erupted over Internet comments about reality television.
I tell my kids all the time that they cannot control what other people do, but they can certainly control their own behavior. So for the love of EVERYONE, please control how YOU behave! Do not respond! Do not invest a single second more away from what I am sure are very fulfilling lives!
You are (I am assuming) adult humans who MUST realize there are so many bigger problems currently than “who started it” and frighteningly, “who posted private info first.”
Yes, I’m preaching! And you’ve drawn me into commenting about a fight among people about whom I know really nothing!
(And I’ve used FAR too many capitalizations and exclamation points!)
So I hate you all! (Not really. Nobody hate me.)
@CattyFan: Ah yes, I did notice I screwed that up after I posted. I apologize for that. I’m still getting used to this IPhone and I was too scared of losing my post by hitting the wrong thing on this sensitive touch screen that I didn’t dare scroll up to double check the spelling. Have a good night.
Chemgal, so you are questioning the integrity of the administrators of Tvgasm, am I right? Not the integrity of Twunty who allowed my info to be posted, or the integrity of Cheez who posted it. And you know it’s true because have not denied that my blog and email handle were, in fact, posted on that very public site.
If anyone at the Gasm thought you were a nuisance, or wrong in the fight, they would have just banned you. Why would they risk their jobs for a fight they wanted to be over?
But it’s funny how you protect the source of how you got MY personal info. First it’s from google, then it’s from someone you can’t name. Yet you are questioning the integrity of others. Ironic?
And as itchy said, anyone with a shread of sanity can see what’s going on here.
I’ve made my point. I can bury the horse. Any more accusations..whatever dude.
3rd time’s a charm: “cattyfan”.
OH LAWD. So now I am giving away ip addresses so I can send out sarc to stalk you? HAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
If you honestly believe that I am giving your personal information out to settle silly fights on the internet, you’re WRONG. I have devoted the past five years of my life to this site because I love it and am proud to be a part of something I was such a fan of for a long time. I still do love it, and I’m not ok with sitting here again while a riot breaks out.
The fight you are rehashing is history. I did my best to email all parties involved at the time and work it out as a friend because I honestly like reading comments from all of you. You’re funny and smart, and pretty bitchy. Which I of course love. But this war was ridiculous, and the fact that it’s starting up again isn’t ok. The writers here work their asses off for laughs, not for this.
The thread in the forums that “mysteriously” disappeared was taken down last month when I cleaned the forums up a bit and reread it. It made me sick to my stomach. I felt like a total asshole for letting it get that bad in the first place, and take responsibility for believing that adults could act like adults and get past petty bs. I was wrong, and I’m not making the same mistake twice.
This site is too important to me, the writers here are too important to me, and the readers are too important. Be nasty somewhere else. Anyone is welcome to read here, but no more comments on this dumb war. The past is the past.
You guys, this feud is so 2010. This thread is closed.