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Sunday, June 12, 2005
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Anyone who’s even been a casual TVgasm reader for the past six months knows that we have spent countless hours railing against Amazing Race villains, Jonathan Baker and Victoria Fuller. So it should probably come as a great surprise to you that J-Unit and I had dinner with this infamous couple recently. Yes, we dined with the enemy, and well, it wasn’t so bad. In fact, some might even say that it was a fun time.
Whaaaa???
Find out what we learned from this dynamic duo (including their candid thoughts on Phil) after the jump…The saga began about a month ago when Jonathan and Victoria contacted us about the possibility of an interview. They apparently wanted to demonstrate to the blogosphere that they are, in fact, just a happy, loving couple (with occasional bouts of globetrotting hysterics). How could we turn down such an opportunity? After all, we are the site that not only liberally bashed this couple (via a nifty video mocking their Dr. Phil escapades) but even went so far as to stalk Victoria at the baggage claim of LAX. Surely, it was time to take on the monster no holds barred.
Fast forward to a couple of weeks ago. J-Unit and I met up with Jonathan and Victoria at the quaint Il Solé restaurant on Sunset Boulevard. Team JV was already seated when we entered, and after a few handshakes and introductions, J-Unit promptly went off to the bathroom, leaving me with the awkward endeavor of smiling, making small-talk and pretending in general that I hadn’t spent the past six months savagely tearing apart these two. Luckily, J-Unit returned to the table after a few minutes, but by then the awkwardness had pretty much gone away. The truth was that Jonathan and Victoria could roll with the punches (or at least, so they would have us believe) and over the next two and a half hours, proved to be extremely forthcoming about the entire Amazing Race experience, as well as life as reality star alumni.
The two shared all sorts of interesting information about the nuts and bolts of The Amazing Race such as how long those Pitstops really are. Turns out teams really do only get twelve hours of rest time (minus four hours for interviews), but occasionally, some legs do have a thirty-six hour Pitstop. Jonathan and Victoria were also pretty convinced that the producers must buy up blocks of airline tickets to make it more difficult for teams to get seats (oh, and the two also reside firmly in the conspiracy camp when it comes to Uchenna and Joyce’s infamous airplane fortunes). Of course, I always ask about stupid little details, and I was quite happy to learn that teams could in fact listen to the radio in cars, but only when the camera man was sleeping. Finally, my curiosity has been SATED!
Of course, Jonathan and Victoria gave us the lowdown on some of the bigger incidents as well. Regarding their first meltdown in Iceland, Victoria explained that after six hours of missing turns due to the extremely long road names on the extremely small road signs, the two became frustrated, aggravated, and of course insanely contentious. As for the famous “shove” in Berlin, Victoria noted that they had accidentally stumbled upon the Pitstop during their travels, but before they could check in, they needed to find some obscure clue that didn’t even make it to air. Unfortunately for them, this task proved to be massively difficult, and the longer it took them to find the clue (a guy holding a monkey, I think they said), the more frustrated they became (surprise, surprise). Eventually they found the clue, but since Freddy and Kendra were still poking around for it, Victoria wanted to go off and read the directions in another location. The cameraman, however, insisted they read the clue there, ultimately alerting Frendra to the location of the monkey dude. And yes, this caused Team JV to get frustrated… again. Sensing an anger management problem here?
Well, with their stress skyrocketing, Victoria said she became absolutely nuts (ie. her infamous hysterical crying that we love oh so much), and when Jonathan threw down his bag en route to the Pitstop, it was like the last straw for her. As for Jonathan, he simply summed up the entire event by reiterating that he was running the race like a Mack Truck and every time he hit the gas, Victoria was there to stop him (forced analogy, but we’ll take it). As they hurtled towards the Pit Stop, Jonathan shoved Victoria in what he admitted was a “conscious decision” to motivate her. Jonathan claimed he wanted to show the audience how serious he was about the competition but never expected the reaction his theatrics received. Still, he told us that he takes full responsibility for his actions and wishes he had never done it. Jonathan then revealed to us that in the wake of that episode, he has received copious amounts of hate mail, and yes, death threats. In fact, up until about a month ago, he claimed that their spa had lost about thirty percent of its business.
Some people *really* had a problem with Team JV
As bad as Jonathan had it though, Victoria noted that it was actually her who received the most grief from people on the streets. Many viewers actually faulted her for either whining so much or putting up with Jonathan. Victoria said one woman went so far as to fake spit on her — a bizarre but oddly amusing reaction, if you ask me. Yes, it’s good to see that blame-the-victim mentality still reigns supreme. Way to break the cycle, SOCIETY. At the end of the day, the only people that ever seemed to be friendly to this team were, you guessed it, Canadians. For some reason, Canadians love Jonathan and Victoria. The couple couldn’t explain why, but hey, you can’t always ask for logic from a country that embraces Celine Dion.
Anyway, after the “shove” incident, Jonathan and Victoria knew they would be primed as the season’s villains, especially several months later when exec producer Bertram Van Munster called the couple and warned them that they’d be portrayed “a little badly.” It’s kind of like saying Hitler was “sort of mean.” Anyway, according to Jonathan and Victoria, the producers were so eager to make them look evil that they completely excised footage of them donating all their clothes, money (over a thousand dollars), and items to the Ethiopians after they were eliminated. In fact, the Prime Minister of the country allegedly called the production the next day to thank the couple for its charity.
And as long as we’re dishing the dirt about Prime Ministers and such, I might as well share some of the scuttlebutt Team JV passed along to us.
- First, Adam is not gay but is part of some gay, stoner clique (don’t ask me what the hell that means).
- Rebecca ate that Hungarian soup in like two minutes. Plus, she’s funny in real life too
- Kendra complained about being on the race nearly every single day.
- Kris and Jon weren’t happy ALL the time.
- Victoria is super hot. That’s not really gossip, just something we noticed.
When we asked about Phil, the two of them immediately recoiled in anger. Jonathan then seethed, “Phil is a two-faced motherf–ker!” Whoa. Apparently Phil used to come and sit down with them during Pitstops. He’d even encourage their behavior, saying they were making great television. But later Phil bashed the couple in the press — hence Team JV’s vehement reaction. Still, they may hate our puffy-haired New Zealand host, but he’ll always be welcomed here at TVgasm.
Nevertheless, as fascinating as these behind-the-scenes glimpses are, the real question is “Are Jonathan and Victoria as crazy as they appear?” Well, I’m sad to say that the answer is no, not really. In person, they were pretty friendly, and after a season of watching Jonathan completely dominate his wife on The Amazing Race, I was fairly surprised to see that Victoria is very much her own woman — not the wilting flower often portrayed on the series. In fact, for stretches, it seemed like Victoria actually dominated the conversation — to the point where we witnessed some classic Jonathan Baker as he snapped, “Would you stop talking? Such a motormouth!” Yeah, not a terribly classy thing to say to your wife in front of virtual strangers. In fact, it had me wondering whether or not we had just seen a crack in the “happy-marriage” façade. After two and a half hours though, I didn’t get a sense that we were being conned into some image. I left the dinner believing that these were two people who actually do function well as a couple, but unfortunately go absolutely nuts under stress and duress.
In fact, J-Unit did find time to ask the obvious. How did the two meet? As previously stated Victoria is gorgeous, and I’m not saying that Jonathan is a bad looking guy, but I think J-Unit wanted to know the details of how the two met so maybehe could get a few pointers to help in his search for the perfect girl. Victoria then went into some detail on how it happened. Met at a party, Jonathan pursued (big surprise, I think not), moved in together, and the rest is history.
While Jonathan seemed to soak up the spotlight that his time on the Amazing Race afforded him, Victoria was a little bit of a different story. In a previous item when J-Unit wrote on Team JV, he sort of mocked Victoria for her obsession with art centered around the Playboy bunny logo. He wrote it off as a Playmate who was trying to use her appearance in the magazine to boost here career, and thought that “painting” would be a good way to do that. On the contrary, Victoria was always a dedicated art student. She concentrates on Playboy and the bunny logo because she is the only artist who has ever been licensed to secure the rights to use the images. How successful has she been? When Playboy and the Maloof brothers decided to build a casino in Las Vegas next to the Palms, they contacted Victoria to fill the place up with original art.
So why did Jonathan and Victoria contact us now? I mean, all this stuff is great, but to be honest, we’re kind of the sloppy seconds to Dr. Phil, let alone all the other media outlets that have taken on Team JV — four months ago. Could it be that Jonathan and Victoria just want to extend their fifteen minutes of fame? Well, actually, yeah. Jonathan explained that after you’re a reality star, you can either fade away into oblivion or become a “fame whore,” a title he seems to relish quite a bit. You see, according to Jonathan, having the spotlight means having a chance to have a “raised voice” (whatever that means), and if squeezing out every last bit of fame means he can have a raised voice then… well, oh never mind. Who knows why they truly wanted to do the interview. We just wanted to talk to reality stars.
Oh, and by the way, Victoria said that she totally noticed me stalking her with my camera phone at LAX. Blast!
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Man, LA does make people soft… just kidding. I’d have wussed out too.
How’s Jonathan’s “sarcodosis” (or whatever)?
What was Victoria wearing?
What color was that tool’s hair?
And lastly, did they order the spicy soup?
ugh. I’m gonna barf. I had to shut off Howard Stern to read this. This stuff is way better than radio right now. You guys must have been brainwashed or at least slipped some roofies. Did they sell you the exclusive use of their spa for $10k a day ala John Travolta?
This guy Jonathan sooo reminds me of my director. What an asshole! I’ve made a “conscious decision” to want to put my foot up his rear. By the way JV, Phill saying you guys “make great television” does not mean make an ass of yourself.
Go Victoria. She does have a brain. And talent…who knew?
Yeah, donating clothes and money to Ethiopians. Riiiiight… It was just a payoff for kidnapping those kids to use as guides during the race.
But seriously. I do hope they have a great life together and I want to like them. But whenever I see them on TV or read about them I can smell the Bullshit. And it’s rancid.
OMG – I think (and I honestly, hate to think it) that TVGasm may have jumped the shark. Breaking bread with the enemy? That I can excuse because come on, who wouldn’t. But then siding with them. Come on, they were trying to manipulate you – just like that failed to do on the show. This a pathetic attempt of damage control. They may have fooled you but not me. They gave lame excuses for their jackassary. They suck even more now.
Anyone who says a negative word about Phil is still crap in my book. Phil should have kicked Jon’s ass on national television. Hello, Emmy!
Admittedly, this interview was about as intense as something you would see on Larry King or Access Hollywood with Billy Bush. Yes, Jonathan paid for dinner, no, we weren’t offered free weekends at their spa. I think we have established that we don’t hold back if we see celebrities in person and they behave like idiots. They didn’t ask to read the article before we posted it, and nobody should believe that we won’t take the time to skewer them if they show up on TV and are acting the same way.
sg-dub,
Jonathan’s hair was its natural color. No Blue.
Victoria wore black pinstripe pants and a tank top. Another surprising thing about Victoria is that she ate all of her food – salad, fish, and vegetables. This may seem like a minor detail, but in LA, it is rare to see girls chow more than a salad, especially if they are celebrities and/or models. It just doesn’t happen. And she didn’t even leave the table to use the bathroom at any point – another rare Los Angeles occurrence (i.e. – no time for post dinner bulimia)
No, there was no spicy soup to be had.
I can’t stand Celine Dion.
what a surreal moment this must have been. hats off to b-side and j-unit for being good sports by rewarding team J-V with this unexpected bit of character rehabilitation. this certainly does not rank alongside the sheepish glad-handling of last summer’s run-in with jase and holly, since a) jon and victoria seem to take themselves far less seriously than the loathsome jase and b) team J-V has suffered sufficient scorn in the media and manipulation at the hands of ruthless reality TV producers (shame on you, Dr. Phil!) to merit a little generosity from the snarkosphere.
and i think it’s safe to admit at this point that we were primed to hate jonathan before the show even aired just for being an unremarkable loudmouth lucky enough to be married to a woman hot enough to pass the Hef-test, and would likely have despised him a lot less if he’d shoved charla or even kelly the passive-aggressive beauty queen instead of the lovely (less lovely when sobbing uncontrollably, but still lovely) victoria. we might even have liked it.
I hope if they are happy together they are together forever. But it is definetly not the type of relationship I want to have. Big deal, you’re under pressure, it doesn’t give you an excuse to push someone or yell at them. And Victoria’s whining was disgusting.
They made themselves the evil ones on that show. Editing didn’t and neither did Phil, Puhleaze.
p.s. so how much Botox was Johnathan sporting?
Celine Dion is not embraced by this Canadian. (actually, I don’t think I know any Canadians that embrace her…)
Hey b-side. Did you coin the term Romber? for Rob and Amber? I remember reading it on TVGasm first. I believe your star quotient is growing.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,159302,00.html
I clearly remember that when J pushed V it was after Freddy and Kendra already made it to the mat. He was not trying to motivate her, he was trying to punish her. Also, if you are on a reality show and somebody tells you that you make “great tv”, that is NOT a compliment. The a**holes are the ones that make the shows fun to watch.
We (Canadians) can’t stand Celine Dion either. Who can?!
I wish these two would just disappear & we wouldn’t have to think of them ever again. J-Hole Baker and his never-ending need for attention and validation from strangers makes me nauseous. Bleccchh. I wouldn’t care if I heard Nelson Mandela himself thanked Jonathan for clothing the whole of South Africa… I still think the man is the tooliest tool of all of the tools in Tool Land.
If she weren’t with him, Victoria probably wouldn’t bug me at all. He just makes me so ill that it’s a guilt by association kinda thing. They were NOT fun to watch together on the race… far too much screeching. I actually had to start taping the race so that I could fast forward through their scenes. They gave me migraines. I was afraid that AR had jumped the shark thanks to them but fortunately this season earned my love back.
And I’m sorry but calling Phil a MF? That rubs me the wrong way totally — he actually defended them for quite a while (much to my confusion) before finally confessing during a press event that he wasn’t unhappy that they’d been eliminated and that their shtick had worn him out. (I did think it was funny to watch Phil on the Insider Videos egging Jonathan on as he babbled about how Italy was a wonderful country when he wasn’t in Italy, though. That was pretty hysterical.)
Moral of the story: MOVE TO CANADA ALREADY, JONATHAN! Go away, ya fame whore!
protogefox:
Jackassery? What a great word! :O)
I don’t care how stressed or frustrated someone is. Ya don’t push your wife to ‘motivate’ her.
Jonathon is such a wimp, Hugh Jackman could high kick his ass.
You missed out on the ultimate TVGasm moment… Riding the Bus with Jon and Victoria. That would have been awesome.
Canadians do not embrace Celine Dion. In fact, doesn’t she work in Las Vegas?? Me thinks its the Americans who like the french divas!
CANADA doesn’t want Jonathan!!!
Which Canadians LIKE Them? (well, maybe our scorn for them is more passive-aggressive, and therefore they take it to be “Friendliness” in comparison to those death threats, etc…)
And I’m sorry, but who gave Celine Dion her own Theatre in Vegas! Actually, Thanks, for keeping her south of the border
First off, congrats to the Suckster who made that pic!!
And another thing, Jonathan, you are the biggest asshole on reality tv. Anyone who insults Phil is an asshole.
Great story guys. Thanks for making Jonathan and Victoria real people. CBS should be ashamed if you ask me. I wish I was at your dinner as a fly on the wall. What is up with Phil that sneaky little guy.
I’m with you, bunnyhop. Hating and trashing Phil is the unpardonable sin!
All the Canadians offended at being labeled “Celine lovers” is hysterical. Cheesy music lovers obviously can originate from anywhere. What’s worse, they’re labeled JV lovers. Poor Canadians!
As for J &V. I have to agree with hannahthehun and Helenann. Shoving your wife is never acceptable behavior. Frustration motivation, whatever his excuse is, it’s a cop out. He really crossed the line when he did that and I’m always going to think negatively about him as a result, no matter how much of a “reality TV whore” he is, repeating his weak-ass defenses to anyone who’ll listen.
Awesome interview guys. Loved J&V from the beginning. Friends in Canada love them. After hearing all the suppport and defense of J&V from other racers from their season, I’m not surprised that you guys had an awesome dinner with them. It’s good to see who the real J&V are, and as you guys said, they aren’t this ‘crazy couple’ the media has made them out to be.
Being two-faced is never a good trait. I remember Phil talking praise about them during the show and even a bit after,then the media turned its head on J&V, and its like his opinion totally changed. Hmmm.., the power of media. At least, the other racers aren’t like that.
I guess people conveniently forgot about Aaron throwing a backpack at Hayden which is worse than I think
a backpack shove is.
Oh soooo disappointed. If you are telling me that Jonathan is actually a decent person than I am giving up television because the edit Gods must really be screwing with us. I have yet to see one interview and or TV show where he comes off as even halfway likable. So either you guys have totally wussed out (to steal a phrase used earlier)..or we are all puppets in the hands to TV editors regardless of the show. I hope the latter is true because I would hate to think my TVgasm pals have gone soft
Hey, we never said that we were letting them off the hook for any of their onscreen antics. We just said they were friendly over dinner. Simma down, people.
Phil sucks…… he is boring and dry.
I loved the interview guys. I now feel sorry for J&V for what CBS put them though. I belive the edit was as bad as Jonathan said. Thank you for bring out the truth. I wish them both good luck with their fame whoring.
I don’t know if anyone else here was there for it, but during their turn on Amazing Race J&V used to troll around the TAR boards saying really nice things about themselves under assumed names. They were kicked off of TWOP more than once, and because their spelling had certain patterns and their sentence structure was unique they ended up being easily spotted on other sites too. (Also easily spotted because, besides the bad grammar & spelling, they were the only people saying positive things like “I like the blue hair guy! He makes exciting tv! He dose seem lucky, he’s married to a Playmate!”)
Anyhow, I digress. I hate to say this, but I seem to recognize their sentence structure in a post or two above (the spelling is thankfully improved). Of course, I could be wrong, but if J knew this post was going to be up I find it hard to imagine that he could resist his old habits. He doesn’t appear to be a “moving on” kinda guy. His old posts made it clear that he desperately needs to be loved even if he has to make it up himself.
For above poster:
Its only because people believed because a person made some spelling mistake or grammar mistake that other people fell into it, and also believed anyone else who did the same were actually J/V who were posting under a different name. Who doesn’t make spelling/grammar mistakes? Hera, who supports Jonathan on a different board discussing this same interview, has had spelling mistakes that she was called out on. I believe there was a wide mass banning of people regardless of whether there was a spelling mistake or not if someone supported J/V like I did. I was unfairly banned for showing my support, and another time made a small spelling mistake, and was instantly accused of being Jonathan. Puh.leez. This has happened in several different boards. Its a sad state of affairs when people speculate.
What’s so bad about J/V in real life. They’ve spent holidays with Jon and Kris in Cabo not too long ago, and people from their season, and others have supported them as well. Obviously, they ain’t that bad.
Coming to CBS this summer:
“Spring Break ‘Tard Attacking Victoria”
with Rosie playing the Victoria role, “JOHNATHANNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!FIX MY TOILET SEAT!”
Helenann – that was sort of random, but I liked it.
B-Side: No snarkiness implied–THANK YOU!
)
I could have added a Canadian Celine comment, but felt that would stretch it too much.
I find it hard to believe that you could identify someone by their typos/sentence structure.
But I wouldn’t put it past Jonny-boy make fake posts. He does seem to have this endless urge to keep throwing himself in the public eye so he can dish out excuse #1,295 for his abhorrent behavior.
And what is this “raised voice” bullshit? Would make sense if he were promoting a charity, but all he seems to be interested in doing is talking about himself and what a raw deal he thinks he’s been dealt.
Give the guy a break.
I don’t think that it was all editing, because Jonathon had to say and do the things they showed. The editing can put things in a context that makes it look even worse, but some of the ways he talked and acted couldn’t have been appropriate in any context. The editing also left out the good moments he had, which gave the impression that he was bad all the time, but still, at least part of the time he was doing and saying the things they showed on tv, and that is his own fault. Anyone going on a reality show knows full well that they will be filmed and that editors like to chop things up for good tv, yet Jonathon chose to use insults, rage, and lots of screaming with his wife. That was his choice and his doing, not the editors’.
Normally I would agree with you guys about speculating and such. But when five different people misspell “does” as “dose” and they are writing consecutively similar comments from the same ISP it kinda adds up. With anyone else, I’d think it was ridiculous… Jonathan is a unique individual to say the least.
I think most of what is being said by you all is BLA BLA BLA, the story was great fun and interesting to say the least. Jonathan and Victoria come out of Hollywood so would you expect somthing different from them. Look at all the big stars they all have drama around them. Cruse is gay? Slater is abuser? Do you belive everything you see? You know, I’m not a jonathon & Victoria fanboy — actually, I hated them — But I really believe this interview, seeing as how the site has shown hatred towards them and after actually GETTING TO KNOW THEM, put them in a positive light! He could have said “they were assholes, assholes”, but he definitely put them in a positive light for a good reason.
Ashes-
I agree 100%. You can’t edit what doesn’t exist. Jonathan DID do and say every one of those things. I’m certain that we saw many things out of context, however I can’t imagine what the “right” context would be for some of his behavior. He’s a loser and no amount of editing can change that.
Ever the thought occur that the person who spelt ‘does’ wrong was a person who supports Jonathan, and their family and friends using the same computer, or that the person set up another account in case they got banned for supporting J&V. Well, that’s what happened to me. Banned for supporting a team.
Jonathan did do and say those things, but if that’s all thats showed, the image people get is that’s how he is in real life, which he isn’t, and which other racers can attest. The race and real life is two different environments. The two don’t go hand in hand.
Hera said Victoria was yelling, and being as mean to Jonathan just as much. It was never shown. That’s the power of editing for you. If they edited it to just show Victoria being mean to Jonathan, then she would be labeled the abuser or will she get off scot free just like the people who have done far worse things to their partner?
Aaron: called Hayden Bitch plenty of times and threw a backpack at her.
Hayden: was being mean, screaming at Aaron, locals, and even managed to push Bolo and insult his height and brought up steroid allegations.
Bolo: slapped Lori across the face, as they both swore up a storm.
Adam: shoved aside a crying Rebecca to sit beside her.
I guess Jonathan gets all the grief, while others who have done far worse acts get a free pass. Yeah, it makes a lot of sense to me.
I don’t think Jonathan is a loser and after this story it only confirms that CBS had it in for him from the start.
Deekeryu, almost every TAR fan thought the season with JV was terrible all around and disliked the other racers you cited. Jonathon was the more extreme example of the bad behavior and acted that way with his own wife, but Freddy and Kendra, Aaron and Hayden, Bolo and Lori, Adam and Rebecca, etc. were all pains, too. Few if any longtime TAR fans could stand anyone that season except for maybe Kris and Jon. No one got “a free pass” from fans.
Totally greed Ashes.
Disliking how Jonathan acted in no way gives a free pass to the other cast members Deekeryu mentioned. I thought they all acted badly.
However, Jonathan’s the only one I keep seeing months later still trying to soak up media attention and talk about himself.
Sorry, but people like Hayden, Aaron, Bolo, Adam, etc. got a free pass to me because they never got accused of such a serious crime when in fact their own actions were far more serious than whatever Jonathan did to Victoria. All people should get equal treatment, yet Jonathan is always attacked. Who wouldn’t get upset if people treated each seperate person differently. See how you would feel if you were treated that same way.
And its just like that, why all the focus on Jonathan? Victoria had dinner with them too. He’s not talking about themself. They’re talking about the race, and if they are being asked questions about themselves, they’ll answer it.
Deekeryu, I can’t understand how you can not understand people’s disgust.
Jonathan is always attacked because HE PUTS HIMSELF OUT THERE TO BE ATTACKED.
HE CALLED TVGasm asking them to interview him, they didn’t call him. Months after we just want him to go away and never hear from him again, he’s still media whoring it up, yapping it up about himself.
If Bolo, Hayden, Aaron, Adam, or any of the others had hit every media outlet who would have them, and solicited TVGasm to interview them months after their show aired so they could proclaim how wonderful they are for the millionth time, I’d be equally disgusted.
Jonathan called them for an interview so what. He has as much right as any other reality person out there to set the record right. So what if he want to be media whore. Some of us like him why is that so hard to understand. He is creative, successful and is trying to make things right. Can you say this for the other reality stars.
If a million people went in and complained about letting an ‘abuser’ on the show to CBS, when this is totally untrue in real life, then who wouldn’t want to set the record straight just like Jim said, and tell the truth. If I was similarily accused with such a serious crime like that when in fact I was completely innocent, you’d be sure I would be setting the record straight and defending myself. If I’m accused of something, why should I go on in life pretending I’m going accept people believeing a crime I never committed? Why should the innocent be played the victim? I think people should be reasonable enough to rationalize that the things that happened on TV, and real life are different, and people can see that difference.
I think J and V got the worst edit of any racer through all 7 seasons of the race thus far. Sure, J&V were both over the top, but just like Hera said, there have been many instances of other racers behaving badly that the American public would deem inappropiate with that footage never shown. I think every racer should be edited to look equally comparable. I know this is impossible and won’t never happen, but I think its easy to understand that the things that happened in the race are not a judge of a person’s true character.
I personally like the name Robber better than Romber. (Robber! lol)
Jonathon is denying that he made the “MF” quote.
“Victoria said the words during the interview not me to tell you the truth.”
http://www.tarflies.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=33030&highlight=#33030
shame on him, after they gave him such a sympathetic write up
I did make the statment. It was just a mix up becuse Jonathan was telling the story. The guys at tvgasm are great people and Jonathan and I have nothing but good things to say about them. Life is great.
Victoria
“Victoria said the words DURING the interview, not me.”
Wow. I’m amazed at people who are bashing you guys over giving them an interview. They’re acting like they know JV better than anybody else. Every TV show needs a villain or antagonist, and TAR6 had Jonathan, just like TAR5 had Colin and TAR1 had Team Guido. TV has to be interesting to get viewers.
Spot on Drew.