Courtney’s robot reply is that she’s stubborn in that aspect, and repeats a lot of trite dialogue that sounds like she memorized a Dawson’s Creek episode. Doc flips it back to Doug and challenges him to look out for her well being and to influence her appropriately in this Daddy/Daughter/Child Bride relationship.
The discussion stays focused on Whorteny’s inappropriate dress and how she gets lost in the attention. She even admits that she sometimes forgets she’s married! Well, of course she does, she’s 17 and this is all a game to her. That and she doesn’t take Doug seriously at all and he is just a sad vehicle to infamy for her. Because at her age, being famous and adored come sfrom being on reality TV. Right Kardashians and your sex tapes?
Doug is shocked that Courtney tries to block out the fact that forgets that she’s married
Tiny is in SHOCK and asks Courtney how she can forget that she’s married just because other men are giving her attention? Courtney replies it’s because she’s 17.
Tiny becomes my second best friend when she says: You made a grown woman’s decision to get married, so you can’t use 17 as an excuse for everything you do.
Good job Tiny! Little Whoreteny has a whole bag of excuses for her bad behavior, and it’s all crap. Thankfully everyone else is calling her out on it.
The next scene is a really stupid sit down between Nik and Doug. I am really over their issue with each other, we all get it and feel the same way.
Doug wants an apology out of Nik, and is absorbing all this attention. He knows he’s going to get oodles of screentime out of this conversation and he’s using it as the opportunity to paint himself as the “good guy.” He starts bullshitting about how men marry younger women Courtney’s age all over the world (Yes, and it’s also why there are THOUSANDS of initatives to save these poor girls from old creepers like you, dude) and then even says they do it in France. FRANCE?! OHMYGOD, this guy. Is an idiot.
Where is this “France” you speak of? And why haven’t I been there?
Doug even asks Nik if hewould rather his daughter at 16 run off with a drug dealer or marry a “good guy” like himself. Listen, Doug. The only time 16 year olds marry old men like you is because of 1) they’re pregnant, 2) they live in backwoods Alabama or some such place, 3) they live in a third world country, 4)It’s a lifetime movie with Tori Spelling, 5) their parents are hateful people who can’t wait to get rid of their daughter.
Nik kind of half apologizes, but at the very end says to him that he will never be okay with what you do. And for some reason Doug thinks this will do.
There’s a great little part with Doug and Courtney as he is trying to tell her about his meeting with Nik and she keeps smelling a skunk and getting distracted. It really shows their age difference here (apart from you know, every other situation) He says that she communicates in a very 21st Century Way, which is code for “she’s hopped up on pills so she can’t sober up enough to leave me.”
SILEX.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the most confusing argument I’ve ever listened to.
They start off with the counselor discussing how they get into an argument and Simon always interrupts her and it makes her upset. He actually starts arguing with her about how argue.
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And my apologies to all for the numerous typos, I was trying to get this up and running quickly and lo and behold I missed a ton of them. Promises: Next recap – no typos. Enjoy!
This show is so depressing.
Tiny and JoJo – It’s more than evident that they love each other, but the truth is they are not good for each other. He needs her because nobody is going to take care of him, love him, forgive him or enable him like Tiny can. He knows this. Tiny on the other hand loves this man so much that she fears if she walks away and he dies it will be her fault, because she thinks she can save him. And she can’t. I feel a sense of anger toward him because I feel like he is holding her hostage. He refuses to address his problems and as a result is killing himself.
Whoretney and Doug – I hate that I am even talking about these two. Because like certain other celebutards that is exactly what they want. To be fair I do think that the issues being addressed regarding these two are valid. I think the Doc is actually trying to get through to them. It just falls on deaf ears. Like I said in the minicap, all you need to know about these two was summed up in her statement “I sometimes forget I’m married”. Add to that the look on Doug’s face and everything is there. There was a point at which I thought that the two of them were honestly working an angle and the whole thing was an elaborate sham. Not that I don’t still think that, but there is a small part of me that is starting to think that Doug BELIEVES this marriage is real. Even if it’s a bogus the group sessions are telling. She claimed that he upset her so she attacked what made him insecure, she addresses that she forgets she’s married he is shocked and hurt by the revelation, he says she has an intimate “friendship” with someone she had a pseudo-sexual relationship with and again he is hurt. All signs point to he wants this charade to be real, and she knows it’s not. Kind of like Kendra and Hef. She played along because she saw that the pros outweighed the cons in her life. It’s sick but it was the choice she chose to make. The only solid difference I see between those two is Kendra was 18.
Shayne and Nik – I have a hard time with these two. For starters, I don’t actually dislike Shayne. I admit I watched her on the Bachelor and I didn’t dislike her then. To me she just seems like a spoiled brat, and none of that seems to have changed. She has been allowed her entire life to pout when she didn’t get her way, and she continues to do it as an adult. Nik makes his living objectifying women, calling them whores and in generally being a first class douchebag. And yet it does appear that he genuinely loves Shayne. He believes that she is better than him and any woman he has ever met. They love each other but don’t know how to fight, and don’t know how to forgive. I remember a relationship a friend of mine had years ago. They were crazy, madly in-love. He was obsessed with her and she loved it. But at the same time, the things that he did to show his devotion were the things that she used to punish him when she was mad. At the same time, when he was mad at her he pushed her insecurities, was aloof and withdrawn. She didn’t think that he loved her anymore and then would freak and lash out. It was like fire and gasoline. To this day even though they are married to other people and about a decade has passed they still think of each other as their great love. It’s sick and twisted and I remember thinking “I am never gonna be in a relationship like that!” I see that in these two.
Alex and Simon – I had no interest in the NYRHW so I just don’t even care enough to pay attention to them, same with TooShort and his Lady Friend. I think I am usually doing something else when they come on the screen.
@Honeybee: Holy hell you NAILED IT! It is so close to the Hef/Kendra situation, it’s not even funny. Although what I still don’t get is why she would hitch her wagon to him – he’s not that wealthy or successful. And you are so right, Doug definitely thinks it’s a real relationship – he has no clue he is being played. If he wasnt such a scumbag for nailing a 16 year old I’d almost feel bad for him when this crashes and burns.
I think on some level he knows. Think of it like this; he genuinely cares for her, and when he tells her she’s beautiful he means it, when he says I love you, he means it. She in response giggles and plays into it. She feeds him just enough to enable the emotional response she needs from him, but at the same time stays far enough away that he has to pursue her. She didn’t care that he wasn’t THAT famous, he was just famous enough to get attention for banging a 16 year old girl. And her mother saw it too. Doug is just a means to an end, however I don’t think that she realizes that nither she or Doug are intersting enough to propel this freak show past the shock phase.
Hi, eyediosmio! So, I’ve never watched this show, I started reading the other day when I was just clicking around different recaps.
Jesus Christ on a cracker, I’m living for your recaps.
I may have to watch the show becuase you paint such a wonderful picture of this train wreck. I forgot how much I love trashy VH1 reality shows. I never paid too much attention to Whoretney (love it!) and Doug before, but now I can no longer watch “The Green Mile” without just being creeped out.
She’s not smart enough to pulloff what Kendra did. And that’s saying something.
Kendra seemed quite the conniving whore to me.
Not saying she isn’t BUT she ended up in a far better (I think) situation than this dim wit Courtney IMO. Playboy fame, living in a mansion and NO marriage.
I’d say in the battle of skanks, Kendra wins the round.
Gypsy hell yes. Didn’t Kendra’s trailer home have bars on the windows? Personally I was more disgusted by the supportive family members on GND. When step-dad was watching his step-daughter strip, I had to turn off the television. Sorry for the threadjack.
I actually LIKE Kendra – and I felt like she was pretty clear from the beginning (at least to herself). Hef was a way to move forward in life, and she took that and rode it as far as she could, then left to make something of herself “on her own”.
“Unknown girl acts the whore with “famous man” to make a decent life for herself” is pretty much a universal and historical reality. Kendra just did it on TV and in magazines. But if you look at her now, she seems genuinely happy in her *married* life, and I kinda admire her for that.
I can watch the video of how Kendra and Hank have set up a bedtime routine for their son without feeling weird.
I don’t think I could EVER, no matter what redemption she tries to pull, take parenting advice from Whoretney…
Doug is so full of shit. He’s an addict himself. Booze, shrooms, x, porn…he used to brag about his porn collection and having threesomes! Yeah, good guy, MY ASS!
I agree Kendra always admitted that she was taking the opportunity and she did turn it around and make it work for her.
Hooker with a heart of gold….but NOT Whoretney…I just can’t… they actually need their own show with the amount of issues they have… but that would feed into more famewhoring…ahhh the rub.
I think Kendra once commented that she was involved with drugs and that Hef helped her stop. She also had her own money, and she and Bridget attended college / training program. I don’t think Kendra is a role model by any means, but she and Hef were honest about what it was and both benefitted. With Whortney it feels like a scam and since she was only 16, she IS being harmed.
After admitting to being knowledgeable about Kendra and Whortney I feel like a need to do a 10 day cleanse. Ugh!
Eyediosmio, since your comment about the way FWB dresses I’ve started to pay attention. You are right, she looks sexy without being slutty. I totally want her to take me shopping.
I think Kendra is very likable. Courtney not so much… She’s a complete narcissist. I think that’s playing a bigger role in her behavior then her age. And you don’t grow out of narcissism. She’s going to be playing out this same behavior 20 years from now. I agree with honeybee , her relationship with Doug is a stepping stone. But she chose a profession that she will always be part of the least respected group in. The lowest tier in Hollywood. Her ego may say something different, but she will always be z list.
They did say this was a no-alcohol place so even though JoJo is not getting the help he needs for his addiction, at least he is not drinking at the moment. From other VH1 things I have noticed that they will go from one show to getting to be on another (like drug rehab to sex rehap) after they “get down to the bottom” of their issues. So even though VH1 rehab isn’t the greatest, maybe he will get put on that show next. At least its rehab. Its a long shot but that is what I am hoping happens.
I wanted to barf most of the time with doug and courtney this episode. But I also can’t look away from it so I guess they got me there.
We have known Hef’s set up for years with his girlfriends when he has multiple ones. He usually has a main one and the rest are more like for mutual gain. It’s a weird set up yes, but Hef is a show-man and it is actually pretty brilliant to keep playboy popular. Kendra was just the mutual gain type girl-friend. I think he acted as a mentor type person to her than anything else. Plus she was legal
I just think this show is plainly just a show where entertainment is the priority instead of counselling and fixing marriages. It can even lead to irreparable damage due to negative publicity. They are instead targets for negative feedback because of this.