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Sunday, April 22, 2012
12:00 pm
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Tagged: annoying, Cranky, Dance Moms Miami, delusional, Hateful, recap, SnoopK8, tvgasm, VictAng, You're just jealous!
Hola, Gasmii,
Please accept my apologies for being so tardy with this. I don’t really have a good excuse, except that I may have been sabotaged. Yeah, that’s it. Sabotaged!
Previously on Dance Moms Miami: Susan acted psychotic; Hannah came in fourth place and Abby was bitchy; Sammy came in first place overall; Mayra stirred some shit and Sammy was cocky.
The kids line up and VictAng say they were not satisfied with last week’s performances. The kids did not dance to their full potential and they need stars, not almost-stars. In case you forgot, the name of the studio is Stars, not Fifth Place Losers… but I’m getting ahead of myself.
The List: At first I thought my DVR had accidentally recorded the wrong episode because the list is almost the same as last week.
New boss same as the old boss
Lucas is number one. VictAng are extremely proud of him for getting first place in his category. Brigette says that her son is a star that will continue to rise. And Brigette is a harpy who will continue to annoy me. Number two is Kimmy because she successfully remembered her choreography and because her mother is not a psycho-bitch like the others. Ani says it’s a nice surprise that Kimmy did so well. See, if she were one of the other moms, she would complain that Kimmy wasn’t number one.
Third place is Sammy because she got first in her category and first overall. However, Angel says she made some mistakes and didn’t give her best performance. Victor says she did well, but not well enough for them. Fourth place is Jessi. She worked her way up because she didn’t grab any trophies out of anyone’s hands or otherwise bully them last week. Victor says one’s reputation takes years to build, but only seconds to ruin. Jessi and Susan are teary and Jessi doesn’t understand why she’s still being punished for something that happened two whole weeks ago.
I won’t stop crying till Tibet is Free
Last place goes to our old friend Hapless Hannah, even though she finished in the top five last week. VictAng concede that she did amazing (for her) but say she needs to get that technique down. They say if she could get her technique to match her artistry and emotion she’d be on top. Well, yeah, and if I could throw a fastball I could pitch for the Red Sox. Bob interviews that she is upset that Hannah is last even though she got her best score ever and it was her best week ever.
I agree with those who have said that Bob is delusional. Hannah clearly loves dancing and is a cute enough kid, but she just doesn’t have the natural ability that the others have. It’s like, I can train with a vocal coach all I want, but I will never play Maria von Trapp on Broadway (my dream job when I was Hannah’s age). Bob should encourage Hannah, but not try to manufacture a rivalry with someone who is way better than she is.
This week, the kids are going back to California to another Starbound competition. Apparently this is the biggest competition ever with the most talented kids ever and… well, you know the rest. They really don’t need to show VictAng saying that every week, because I think we can assume that they don’t want to lose.
Lucas will do another solo and so will Kimmy, her first of the season. Sammy will also do a solo. Angel says if it were up to him, she wouldn’t get another solo, but she did win, so…. Jessi will NOT get a solo this week. And of course more tears are shed. Victor says it hurts him to not see her dance and Angel says if she keeps up the good behavior, she will get one eventually. Hannah will also not get a solo this week.
The theme of the group number will be insecurity so the kids need to get ready to open up and bare their souls on national TV. Victor interviews that the number will be DEEP and he wants the audience to feel something, so the kids must feel something.
In the mom’s lounge, Susan tells Ani that she’s really proud that Kimmy “finally” got a solo because she is amazing.
It’s so great your loser kid finally got a solo
Hmm, Susan is being nice? What’s her angle? Angel apparently agrees with me because he notes that the moms seem to be getting along this week. He speculates there is alcohol or drugs involved.
Oh, but of course all is not well. Bob says she’s not taking anything away from Sammy, but she’s had three opportunities to perform and there is no “I” in team. But there is an “I” in bitch. Brigette agrees with Bob for a change. Again, I don’t remember Sammy having three opportunities to do solos, but I watched like 3 times (which explains why I’m extra cranky this week) and Brigette definitely said that.
In the studio, VictAng sit the kids down and ask them to go around and say what they are most insecure about.
I wish someone would buy me an outfit that fits
Jessi says she is afraid of being embarrassed because of dancing and having people make fun of her and calling her ugly. Victor tells her to put her energy into showing how beautiful she is. I’m sure that will cure her.
Hannah is worried about how people look at her when she is on stage and being judged on how she looks rather than how she dances.
I just heard that Krispy Kreme closed
Oh dear. I hate to make fun of a little kid, but I don’t think you want to be judged on your dancing, Hannah. Victor tells her she’s beautiful and Angel calls her amazing. He says she makes people feel something when she dances. Sad? Angel says that what Hannah lacks in technique, she makes up for in performance.
Kimmy says she’s afraid of not being perfect. Ani interviews that Kimmy is like her in that regard. She says she always thought it was a good thing, but now she can see how it could be painful for Kimmy. Victor tells Kimmy she doesn’t have to be perfect because she is human and it’s okay to make mistakes.
Lucas says people at school make fun of him because he likes to dance. Apparently VictAng didn’t have a comment about that. Or if they did, I didn’t write it down.
Sammy says she’s afraid of making a fool of herself by forgetting something on stage and of being judge solely on her looks. She interviews that people think she is a “bratty, snooty girl” because she is so tall and pretty… So yeah, I think you are being judged on your bratty, snooty behavior and not your looks, but that’s just me.
Victor says everyone has insecurities that hold them back, but he assures them that they are all special just the way they are. Angel says the kids need to let go of their insecurities and dance through them.
In the lounge, Susan says the exercise was “beautiful” to watch and she is proud that Lucas got another solo. Bob agrees with the sincerity of an Amway distributor. Susan then says something that there is no problem that “that child” was being cocky in the dressing room last week. Are we still talking about Lucas? Sammy is the one accused of being cocky. Susan adds that “she” (Susan) is being punished for two weeks of good behavior and a child was praised for being cocky.
Abby says, “Enough, Susan, enough.”
I would smack you if I were less rich and beautful
So I guess she was talking about Sammy. Then Brigette weighs in, saying she (Sammy) is not cocky, but she got three chances in a row to perform when no one else did. To Abby, Brigette says, “On top of it, YOU seem to not like the rules or the moms…” Abby says she’s here for Victor and Angel and she doesn’t give “two shits” about anything else. Brigette interviews Abby has an attitude and thinks she’s better than everyone.
Susan says the difference between her daughter and Abby’s daughter is that Jessi is not cocky. Abby once again pulls the “you’re just jealous” card, which cements my dislike of her. I agree that she has a reason to be mad because the moms are being mean girls, but accusing people of jealousy every five seconds just makes her look like (more of) an idiot.
Ani gets up to get away from the conflict and says the dance team brings out the worst in the ladies. She says the pressure is making everything hectic.
Susan gets up to go the bathroom and Brigette and Bob join her, with Bob saying “See? I told you so,” about Abby.
Yup. Rich and beautiful. You bitches are just jealous… Hey, where’d everyone go?
Abby gets really upset and says she can’t handle these bitchy moms. Neither can we, Abby, neither can we.
The next day, Abby says the previous night was “horrific” and that she changed her cellphone ringtone to Rocky so she can be prepared to fight. Ah, but have no fear, Abby, because Brigette has apparently had a change of heart. She calls Abby out to the hall to apologize.
Have you accepted Jesus Christ as your Savior?
She tells her that Bob manipulated the whole situation to get other moms against her. Then she says that when your kid is good, people become bitter and jealous. Abby says she doesn’t care about bitter and jealous but she doesn’t like them attacking her kid’s character. But is it attacking her kid’s character if her kid really is cocky? Maybe she’s not in real life, but they sure are trying to make her look that way on TV.
Meanwhile, during all this, Bob is back in the lounge saying that Brigette is a backstabber who likes drama and she’s not going to feed into that. Whatever, Bob.
I hate drama. THAT’S why I asked Victor to Sabotage Sammy
Mayra wants some screen time, so she sticks her nose in and says she’s trying to clean up all the drama. She wants the moms to come to her with any problems.
I’m still here!
Okay, thanks Mayra. Go back in your hole now.
Abby interviews that Brigette’s apology seems sincere, but that Brigette will probably be mean to her again at some point. That’s probably a good bet.
Kimmy rehearses her solo and Ani is concerned that she will take every bit of criticism to heart and obsess over it. Victor says she’s doing well, but needs to start listening to the music. Lucas rehearses his solo and Victor says he wants to take him to the next level. Lucas interviews that he’s not nervous to do his solo because he’s done lots of them before. Sammy’s solo is called “All Eyes on Me” and she’s excited because she likes to have all eyes on her. It’s yet another stripper dance.
VictAng ask her about something called a “Dougie dance” that she apparently taught Abby how to do, so they pull Abby and the other moms into the studio to learn some dance moves.
This is the best place to stash dollars
Susan gets really into it and Angel says that she will be on top of the list this week. Just don’t grab for the trophy, Susan. Angel says in an interview that if the moms could dance as well as they can argue, they’d all be rich.
The kids are rehearsing the group dance when the moms decide to leave and go somewhere. Angel again says the moms seem happy today, but I still wouldn’t feel safe about that if I were him. Angel brings the kids out to the lounge and make them imitate their moms.
Jessi, as Susan, says it’s not fair because a number one dancer should not be on the bottom of the list. To Hannah, she says “it’s your daughter’s fault for taking the trophy.” Hannah imitates Bob as the moms come back and are all “WTF?” VictAng make the kids go around and imitate their moms in front of the moms. Kimmy, as Ani the peacemaker, says “does anyone want a peppermint?” and everyone laughs.
The producers had nothing to do with this
Susan laughs at Jessi/herself, but then she’s like, “ha ha. Get to back to rehearsal.” That was all very funny, but I wonder if any of this made the moms realize that their kids notice that they act like asshats most of the time and if so, whether that will affect their future behavior. Of course you rarely find self-aware people on reality TV, so my guess is no.
Back to rehearsal and Hannah says something to the effect, in relation to her “insecurity,” of why do we have to be judged? Um, because you’re on a competitive dance team?
Kimmy’s rehearsing her solo and Ani is freaking out about it. Brigette says she needs to chill out. Abby asks if there’s anywhere they can go for a drink, because why not add some alcohol to the general atmosphere of animosity. Brigette says that’s a FABULOUS idea. Ani, wisely, declines. Bob isn’t there for some reason, so it’s Susan, Abby and Brigette going out for drinks.
Cheers! I hate you all!
They toast to “moving on” and “new friendships.” Brigette, who will be playing the role of shit stirrer this week, asks what happened at Abby’s old studio when Bob and Hannah left. Abby says that Bob was actually asked to leave. Susan says that’s not what they had heard and Abby says that Bob took the opportunity to reinvent herself at the new studio.
Brigette is back on her “manipulation” kick, and says that Bob has been manipulating them all for over a year now. Abby says, oh well, karma’s a bitch. (Takes one to know one, I guess.) Abby interviews that she doesn’t know why Bob is so obsessed with Sammy. She says Sammy’s just better than Hannah than that’s all. She’s obsessed because she’s jealous. Duh.
Brigette then brings up the central drama of this week’s episode and says the WORST part about Bob is that she asked VictAng to SABOTAGE Sammy’s choreography so she would lose. Susan says she’s disgusted, but not surprised, since Bob tried to sabotage Jessi the first week. What? They show Bob yelling at Angel and Mayra that first week when Victor had a “virus.” Oh please. How is does that have anything to do with Jessi’s dance. Shut up, Susan. Abby is pissed and says she’s going to speak to Victor and Angel about this, even though she doesn’t know what to believe. She interviews that she doesn’t trust anyone.
Everyone has speculated about what really happened, and I am in the camp that if it was said at all, it was said as a joke – maybe with Bob only half-kidding. But why the hell would VictAng purposely set someone up to fail, especially since they harp non-stop on how important it is that they win week after week? Dumbasses.
Competition day in Redondo Beach, CA. Ani says she’s more nervous than Kimmy. Mayra tells her to chill out. But then Kimmy has to go on stage sooner than anticipated, so that freaks Ani out even more. Victor pulls Kimmy aside and tells her that it’s not about being perfect, it’s about letting go. She goes on and does really well.
Ani says she’s really proud and that Kimmy did amazing.
Lucas’ solo is up next.
For the love of god, get this kid some clothes!
He interviews that he’s not trying to be cocky, because he knows he can dance and he has no fear of losing. Which makes me want him to lose. I know that’s mean, but this show has worn out it’s welcome and some most of these kids are getting on my nerves. They make Maddie seem like Miss Humble.
Sammy says she’s confident for her solo because it’s “adorable” and she’s sure she’ll do good. Whatever. As noted earlier, it’s another stripper dance and her costume is too small.
My stripper name is Krystal Meth
So far, I haven’t really liked any of the costumes since day one. I don’t even really remember even noticing the costumes in Pittsburgh unless they were part of the drama, so they are just one more thing about this show that annoys me. During Sammy’s solo, Bob interviews that she’s not impressed and wonders why Sammy is such a big deal. Way to be gracious, Bob. God, these people suck.
Awards. Kimmy comes in second place, and when asked how long she’s been working on the dance, she adorably says “three days.”
Heh. Like I said, she’s the only one I like so far.
Neither Lucas nor Sammy places and I won’t lie, I am meanly happy to hear that. What’s even more delicious is Brigette’s outrage. She says Lucas has never not placed before and the whole thing is total BS. Ha ha.
Abby says Abby did great, but obviously the judges were not wowed. Well, the only logical explanation is that she was sabotaged, right? She hunts down VictAng and takes them outside to confront them.
So you guys are jealous of me, right?
Victor acts a little evasive and Angel’s like, “you can plead the fifth.” They won’t admit anything, but Abby’s like, “that tells me everything I need to know.” Victor says that they love Sammy and they treat everyone the same. He says it’s up to each kid what he or she does with that. Angel tells Abby not to focus on Bob but to worry about herself and her kid. Angel interviews that Bob is capable of doing something like that, but they would never go along with it, and Abby should trust them. I kind of agree with that.
Time for the group number, and I swear the costumes look like they’re made of duct tape.
They have signs with their particular insecurity written on them, which they rip off during the number to reveal that they are each “unique.” Not only are the costumes ugly, they do absolutely nothing to flatter the kids either.
What’s with the armbands? Are they protesting something?
Also, Jessi always looks angry and I don’t like the choreography. I wish I could say why, but I just don’t like it. So clearly this is episode has pushed me from mildly disgruntled to openly hostile. Bob says the number was powerful, but we already know that she is delusional so that means nothing.
Group awards time and they come in fifth place. Jessi admits they had timing issues and were not in unison. But she says it helped it work through her insecurities, so it’s all good. Okay, as long as someone got something out of it.
Victor comes in to the dressing room. He says they got a solo in the top three and the group in the top five, which is good, but not good enough. He’s disappointed. Angel says they can’t get to Nationals by coming in fifth and the kids have no idea what’s coming up for them.
Abby “jokes” that maybe her kid “wasn’t the only one sabotaged this week.”
Ha ha, it’s so funny how we were ALL sabotaged. By the way, you guys are still jealous of me, right?
Susan’s like “Aroo?” Abby says that’s what’s she heard and she doesn’t necessarily believe it, but now it’s in her head. Ani says that accusation brings a new level of paranoia to the proceedings and she can’t take it anymore.
Abby asks Bob outright and she says she absolutely did not say anything like that. Abby says someone lied to her face and Brigette wants Bob to just admit she said something to VictAng. Abby’s had it and screeches that they are all a bunch of “lying animals” and she’s never met such people like this before.
Next week: VictAng borrow Jabby’s “you will be replaced” meme. Hannah and Sammy have a duet which should be at least be entertaining. Kimmy tries to be “fierce.” Bob calls someone a mean girl and a liar and Brigette says something about being delusional.
UGHHHH. What did you guys think? This show is getting harder and harder to watch. The people are hateful and it’s not even that interesting. Although I think the Hannah/Sammy duet will be good for some fireworks next week, hopefully. Other than that, I am counting down until Pittsburgh comes back. I promise I’ll try to be more positive and less crabby next week. (Well, maybe…)
Thanks so much for reading and have a great day!
xoxo,
SnoopK8
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This show is so much less interesting than Dance Moms in Pittsburg
I don’t really like the kids (besides Kimmy, and although Lucas is a little cocky he is pretty cute) and the moms are just REALLY unlikeable. At the part where you meant to say “Abby says Sammy did great”, you wrote “Abby says Abby did great but no biggy!! Personally I liked Maddie on Dance Moms, I didn’t find her cocky just confident and she was very talented.
SnoopK8 I know what your issue is with this show. Just admit it, you are among friends here, it’s OK, we will not judge you, we are all here for you.
You are jealous of Abby aren’t you?
I kept wondering what Hannah’s insecurity said because I noticed they would block it out or only show her when she was turned to where you could not see it. There is one point where they are practicing and her thing was turned halfway down to where you could not see the insecurity word but you could see half of the unique. I went on youtube and there is a couple of parts where if you time it in just the right spot you can see an AT at the end of the word. You think they really might have put fat on hers and didn’t want to show that on TV? You can pause this one around 13 or 14 and then again at around 21 and see the AT but you can’t see the whole word. Someone said they thought it said unwanted but it clearly shows an AT if you pause it right. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9F_dWVE7BZw
I was totally trying to read Hannah’s too, and I saw the “AT” and thought the same thing about them being too afraid to show “FAT” on tv. Which is think is stupid. Hannah was brave enough to put it on there, after all.
Do you guys really think Abby is beautiful? I think she’s mediocre-looking, and her skin is fried and freckly beyond repair. Kind of a cross between Vyle and Leather.
I didn’t like the group dance either. Honestly, I haven’t really liked any of the group dances, so far.
I just don’t loathe Sammy and Abby like the rest of you. Ok sometimes people dislike you or give you a hard time because they ARE jealous! So I don’t think they are so off base for saying it.
I found this video of another boy dancer at Stars and he is amazing! He wears a shirt and his turns are redonkulous!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjU52lIqyek
I kinda wish he was on the show.
I don’t loathe Sammy or Abby! Not yet, anyway. I just loathe Bridgette. And Mama. And I feel guilty whenever Bob comes on the screen because I kind of despise her and I know I should feel sorry for her. But then I think, “No! She CHOSE that haircut, dammit! I’m going to despise her!”
I have to say your comments about Hannah are mean despite her mother she seems to be a sweet girl and she is pretty.
I think the choreography for her solo made her look clumsy. It need to be more pointed for lack of a better word.
As far as her mother, if some girl bullied my child I would be out for blood. I think Victor and Angel should of denied any kind of sabotage especially if they don’t want the mothers to be fighting.
haha your last sentence needs to get picked for the quote of the week or whatever. Made me LOL!
Regular Dance Moms is stated to come back on June 20. Hallelujah.
The only mom I like is Ani. She’s like the Dr. Holly of the group.
SnoopK8, I’m with you. My patience is running thinnnn.
The “they’re jealous” chorus isn’t annoying me because I generally think that is the problem they have with her-her kid is considered the best dancer, and since all these moms live for their kids dance class – seething pits of jealousy!
Was Sammi cocky? Will someone please remind me because all I remember is her standing up for herself and saying she was just as good as Jessi(?) when an ADULT commented in front of the kids that Jessi was the best one in the group. I can’t remember at all if it was Jessi’s mom or Victor’s mom or if it even happened but I thought it was 10% bratty and 90% balls to speak up about an adult being a c*nt.
These kids are older so a lot of them have awkward body phases going on and the costumes are NOT GOOD. However so far I like the choreography better than Pittsburgh although they might be just as repetitive we find as time goes on. For now I’m just grateful to not see Maddie lift her leg and look at it!
Before that scene, when they are talking about insecurities, Sammy says she’s tall and pretty, and people are jealous of her sometimes. Now, whether she was actually being cocky who knows. She is partly repeating her mother and partly just trying to explain her insecurity.
It TOTALLY said Fat. If you look at that video around 0:16 seconds, you can clearly see the F at the beginning of the word. (I also saw the AT at the end of the word at the places you noted above.) I’m not sure how I feel about this… I kind of think that’s awful!
I really can’t stand this show… I LOVE the original dance moms and this one just isn’t there. The choreography is horrible! They look like they’re doing the robot in the matrix, then pause to hold an arabesque for half the song. The movements all look jerky to me and like bad “cheer dancing.” Abby repeated a lot of choreography, but I at least felt like I was watching dances every week.
Sammy is in for a rude awakening when she finds out she’s not nearly as cute as her mom is always telling her she is. Watching a solo with her and Hannah next week will be like watching the Bad News Bears. I think I’m just going to tune out until June 20th
She is the best looking mom on the show.
I think she looks like a young Janice Dickinson POST plastic surgery. Does that make sense????
I was on the fence about the show. I love the original Dance Moms, but I watched the last 2 DM: Miami eps. and I really like the show. Victor and Angel are the opposite of Abby, in my eyes. They really encourage their girls, whereas Abby only looooves Maddie. And they understand that the dance moms are cray, but they don’t let that cloud their judgement of the dancers like Abby does.
Anywho, I looooove Kimmy. I think she is adorable. She reminds me of a younder Chloe, even though they might be close in age. I think Sammy is full of herself. No doubt, she is a good dancer, but to me, she just doesn’t have the “it” factor, and oh lord, someone needs to fix those dance facial expressions.
I wonder if Debi is really that conniving????
I haven’t seen this show and just saw bits and pieces of the previous show. That kid Lucas looks like Squidward doing his interpretive dance. That’s really all I had.
I just absolutely hate what passes for choreography on this show. So much posing and no dancing. It’s like watching the compulsory section for figure skating where they just do the figure 8s and such rather than the actually routine! I hate it! I just keep thinking…”any minute now the dance will start” and it just NEVER DOES! These two should maybe be pageant coaches, not choreographers. They could be like Shane and Michael from “Living Dolls” if anyone remembers that.
Yeah, she does have beautiful long legs, but the face is just average and round, she is not, as we say over on the Toddlers & Tiaras page “facially gifted.” Definitely not pretty enough to be that bitchy already.
“How can you two make all this noise just BLOWING BUBBLES??!”
No, I don’t think she’s beautiful looking at all. I think she’s pretty average actually.. (and No, I’m not jealous.. LOL)
I’m dying & ita Mary! If you choose to be that horribly coiffed you deserve NO SYMPATHY!
I don’t think ANY of these people are attractive. I hate to be mean, but they are either ugly or just so-so, and I would bet there are ALOT of beautiful people in Miami. Just sayin’.
Ya know sometimes you can just look at a person and know if they are the “cool” ones or the “nerdy” ones? I look at Bob and Hannah and think they are the ones who get picked on, the “weird” ones. Even though I don’t like them, I feel bad for them.
Facially gifted….I love it!
I remember Shane & Michael from “Living Dolls”. While we’re touring ye olde pageant circuit, didn’t Mr. Sebastian make a recent appearance on T&T? Wasn’t he in “Living Dolls” as well?
Victor is in love with the ugly foot deliberate step out. I know he inflicted it on poor Hannah’s solo as well as either Kimmy or Sammy (both?). And I know that is not all… it’s not cute. I hope it is retired soon.
I also hope Jessi has been given something to practice these two weeks. Her mom will be fit to be tied if Jessi finally gets a solo again and has no time to properly learn it. And it wouldn’t be fair.
They need to give Sammy something a tad more demure. I think she got marked down this competition due to her dance being not quite demure enough. That being said, she seems happy with the choreography. Maybe it is just fun for her. It has proven she can do that style, so next type of dance for her please!
Lucas’s dances are kind of weird. I don’t know if it’s because he’s doing them all in nothing but why Abby Lee calls ‘booty shorts’ or if he just doesn’t put enough power behind the movements?
I like all of the kids o.k. Kimmy is my fav. I like Sammy, too. She loves to dance, that’s for sure. Unless I see her being hateful, I will like her. After Jessi apologized and acted nice, I liked her as well. I think she was partly afraid to show her mom only a second place trophy and that overrode her good sense… she actually seems to be sweet and funny.
Bob does not need to make Hannah believe that she must beat Sammy. Sammy is a more competitive type of person and a better natural dancer. Bob just needs to keep with Hannah doing as well as she can and learning a lot.
I don’t like Hannah wearing fat or Jessi wearing ugly. Those are too cutting. But, they edited out the fat and Jessi seemed very pleased, so I guess I don’t know what I’m talking about!
Abby feels like an outsider and it is activating her insecurities. She needs to look at facts. Sammy came in rated over some of the Stars regulars (although that seems fair). Sammy has gotten three solos and a lot of special attention. People are jealous of the rating, solos, and attention (which is wrong) not Sammy’s prettiness (which would also be wrong). If Abby feels Sammy earned what she got (and why wouldn’t she) then she needs to just take comments in stride. Those moms want the rating and solos and attention for their own kids. It seems as if Victor and Angel are trying to parcel things out with some fairness among the girls, so they will get their chance.
Lucas is another story. They do seem to be favoring him.
Why are they dancing around (no pun intended) the fact that Hannah is the biggest girl of the group? That’s got to play some role in why they all think she sucks.
@SnoopK8 ROFL @ VictAng! I agree Hannah is totally Nia Miami.
I’m glad I’m not the only 1 getting episodes mixed up. I get that they want to have a structure. Or even a formula.
But they’re doing it like scene for scene exact match every wk.
To tell them apart you have to do stuff like remember what color hair bows they have on.
What you can’t help but notice is that they just sort of threw this show together in like a week.
Because of the Jabby show there aren’t many StarBooty contests that will let the cameras in anymore.
And I bet the same thing’s true of classes and teachers.
So they probably didn’t have a real long list of contestants.
That means we get kids and moms that are just now learning to read lines.
Not to mention these lame half baked drama and comic relief ideas that get made up in 10 minutes of Emergency Meeting the day of shooting.
And only 1 kid that needs to be in a regular class of any kind.
I’m not being mean. It’s just that they seem like just ordinary moms with these kids that were having fun with their StarBooty class.
And all of a sudden Lifetime comes in and starts trying to make them look like this or that reality show character. With these serious ambitions.
So it ends up looking more forced and contrived even than the Jersey Shore cast trying to act like they’re 20.
When in their real life most of them are getting closer to 30.
hmm, I don’t remember him. Update on Shane and Michael: they broke up, lost the McMansion, Leslie (Michael’s daughter) graduated from high school and promptly found herself knocked up, gave birth last winter to a VERY premature daughter at 25 weeks. Michael was online solicitng donations for a motel room near the hospital. The baby made it, and they’re all now living in an apartment in ‘bama. Michael still does H&M, but clearly not making the money he once was!
Nah, we’ve covered it before. She’s not a strong dancer aside from her size. Things like extension, flat feet, etc. make us think she wouldn’t be a strong dancer even if she dropped 20! I have seen talented dancers who needed to lose weight, and that’s not Hannah. She’s just not good.
I actually meant why is the show skirting around the fact. I agree that she’s just not as good a dancer as some of the other people, but I’m surprised that they haven’t mentioned her weight, too. My comment was kind of in response to the ones above that talked about her “insecurity” being “Fat.”
I don’t know why everyone keeps saying Hannah is a bad dancer, she’s not. In fact I think she is better than Nia from Pittsburgh. Her artistry is way far beyond what any of the other kids have, besides Jessi. Her full solo routine was put on Youtube and it is better than what they showed on the show. Yes, she is a little awkward but she will still be dancing when she’s 18 while Sammy is working the pole.
I agree 100% with the poster that said if her kid was bullied she would be out for blood. If I found out another dancer was bullying my child at practice, the last thing she would need to worry about is her choreography being “sabatoged”. Which by the way, was almost as ridiculous as the “sue your friends” episode from DM! I don’t know of any coach that would agree to do something like that for a parent. Though it is obvious VicAng has a sweet spot for Hannah so maybe they thought about it…..come to think about it, none of the other kids have stripper numbers…lol
Maybe they don’t want that to be the only thing that gets focused on? Because, in this episode, it looks like they did talk about it, but it was cut.
I didn’t notice what he shirt said. But, if people see an F and an AT… what else could it be?
Personally, I don’t think she’s necessarily fat. Chubby maybe. But, she could grow out of it. I didn’t really think she was particularly insecure about it, honestly, until this episode.
I do think Hannah, like some of the others, suffers from unflattering leotard syndrome. Neon is not a good shade for a leotard for her.
I have to wonder though if Sammy really bullied Hannah at the old studio. I have my doubts. It seems that Bob would consider Sammy to bully Hannah by dancing better or getting a solo when Hannah didn’t, you know what I mean? Like she may think her daughter is being bullied just by not being the best at everything or picked last. Which is not true and not how the dance world works.
@Liz It’s not that I think either she or Nia are bad. Just that dancing might not be their biggest talent.
Hannah also reminded of Maddie (from the Jabby show). And she’s considered 1 of the best dancers on there.
But I’ve always thought Maddie’s mom should’ve sent her to acting class.
Either instead or at least for acting to be her main 1.
Anyway, I think they’d both get a more positive experience from acting.
I guess Maddie’ll find out from the Joffrey summer thing.
But it might be that she’s already gotten the body usage stuff that acting teachers send people to dance class to get.
And if Hannah’s already feeling judged for not having a ballerina style body now, that’s not going to get any better once Auntie Puberty and Uncle DNA start making out in her hormones.
But there’s plenty of actors that have short legs and nobody gives a fuck.
Agree about the leotards on ALL the kids (except Lucas, since they never give him clothes in the first place). Some of those tops are a wee bit too small for girls starting to get breasts…
Starbooty!
Or how the world works in general
I think one of the things that makes me not like DMM as much as DM is that the kids are older. We don’ t get the ‘cute’ factor. I mean, who did not love Chloe saying that she hoped they would not have real guns because they might get disqualified? So adorable from her but would just sound dumb from Jessi. And don’t even get me started on Mackenzie!
The other thing I cant stand is those buns sticking out of their foreheads!
You know what’s a funny name for vctor and angel? ANGOR hehe, like anger? meh it would be funnier if they acted like abby lee
I’m also kinda grossed out by Lucas’ costumes… he’s a cute kid but that photo of him in the plie in 2nd in the tiny shorts made me feel gross for even looking at it.. I hate to think what those photos may be used for
Oh, I have to disagree. I did a 12-year sentence of hard time with the Academy of the Colorado Ballet, and he feet are no where near arched enough for ANY type of dance. Her knees are hypo-extended, meaning they do not straighten all the way, she has no tunout. She may still enjoy dance and could teach at the YMCA or something, but she is not technically a strong dancer for as many years as she has been at it.
I think you’re on to something there. Any one of the Miami kids could be the awkward stage poster child. It’s hard enough to find your OWN kids adorable in that middle-school stage, much less someone else’s! They may have been cute once, they may be beautiful adults in a few years but now…yeah…not the best time for any of them in terms of cuteness…
I give @gun kata props for giving Jessi the benefit of the doubt last week. I now think she is a nice girl who only looks thuggish because she’s being squeezed into a nine-year-old’s dance attire.
I’m still not digging the Martha Graham-ish dance style of the studio, though.
I hit “post” by mistake before I could say: It does seem that Sammy’s dance numbers are in a totally different style from the rest of the kids. No stomping and toe-curling for her. Maybe they’re not used to choreographing for her more aerial style and that’s why her dances look so stripperish?
The only way that I can remember who is Victor and who is Angel is V for vomit when Victor was sick on episode 1.
Does anybody know the exact ages of the Pittsburgh girls and the Miami girls/boy to compare to each other? I see the talk about the Miami kids being older, but I have no clue how old they are, or really even how old the Pittsburgh girls are. I think I remember Chloe is 9 and Mackenzie is 7? That’s kinda all I remember about their ages.
First off, Hannah is a very sweet girl, I have said that before, but she isn’t just awkward, she is not graceful. And if she is dancing at 18 it will be strictly for her own enjoyment. As it should be. If your have your daughter compete, she will be judged. So what Debi SHOULD be teaching her is that do your best and whatever happens happens. As long as you did the best you could, nothing else matters.
As for the bullying, well my daughter went into a studio where there are a group of cliquey girls. She of course is in their group. They are fine one on one, in a group they are brutal. I had to teach her not to worry about it, she is there to dance. But it did get to the point where I had to speak to one of the teachers. The owner got the senior company members together to basically told (without naming names) to cut the shit out. That handled it.
And as every female on this board know that girls between the ages of 9-14 (middle school) are the nastiest evil people on the planet. How most of them outgrow it by the end of high school I will never know….
OMG I totally agree. My daughter was a competitive gymnast for 9 years before she went to dancing full time and I have always thought Nia would be an outstanding gymnast. She is completely built for it and with her flexibility she would be amazing.
Now that’s funny! And I love SnoopK8′s VictAng! Am hating this show tho…
I think Maddie is nine and Chloe is 11. Didn’t Maddie move up into Chloe’s age range in season one?
Dance Moms girls: MacKenzie, 7, Maddie, 9, Chloe, 10, Paige 11, Nia, 11 (I think, maybe 10) and Brooke, 13 (maybe 14 by now).
Dance Moms Miami: Kimmy, 9 (just turned 10, I think), Lucas, 9, Hannah, 11, Sammy, 12 and Jessi is 14.
Kind of embarrassed that I even know that much.. I could be a little off on some, but I think that’s about right.
I LOVE seeing someone disagree with April & shut her up. She acts like she is a frickin dance pro sitting back & analyzing all the dance crap. Who gives a fuck?? It’s a stupid reality show that brings on the haters & trash talk. Ain’t like it’s real. First time I’m commenting but been watching all the comments in both forums. Most of YINZ seem to be regulars. April, go back to dancing or get a real life so you’re not living vicariously through fucked up reality shows. And while I’m trash talking, someone mentioned all the accents on DMM and got pounded on for DARING to say that! Anybody wonder if they are AMERICAN CITIZENS? We’re watching this show, me included, when how many AMERICAN CITIZENS are unemployed, and are we making Cuban or some other Latino-country citizen wealthy? And cute Kimmy…why does she have an accent when her mother doesn’t? I’m done with this show and done reading this forum. You people are ridiculous….or as April so cutely said redonkulous.
@gun kata YES! uglyfoot.must.die.
I bet VictAng went to a culture festival and saw like 10 min of some Kathakali or more likely Khon and decided they had an Epiphany that would redefine the whole StarBooty contest nexus or something.
I have to say that I completely understand and support the show’s editors not putting a clear shot of the fat sign on Hapless. Can you imagine the field day that a screen shot of that would cause? It would be seen ’round the world, and would haunt that poor child forever. She will hopefully outgrow the chubs (especially if she keeps dancing), and the film editors have spared her a crapload of embarrassment.
Thx Dani…so these kids, other than Little Mac, are kinda right around the same age. And hey, guess what…I’m embarrassed at some of the things I know, too! I was like a super nut case looking in the court records when Melissa pulled the I’m gonna sue you thing. Just coz of my job I can look at the records, but I was like super sleuth and now know alot of their dirty secrets! Like we don’t all have dirty secrets! And really, I do have better things to do, I just didn’t want to do them! Hahaha!
HaHa. Yes, I did the same thing. I’m not sure where I heard about it- maybe it was here- but there was a link to the county records and I went on and found a lot of info out too. Definitely had other things to do, but once I’d find something, then that would take me to something else and before you knew it I knew WAY too much about these people I don’t even know.. LOL. My daughter and I love to watch Dance Moms (Pittsburgh) and are entirely too into it.. Glad I’m not alone!!
I came across this today.
http://www.dancemomshannahepstein.com/
It is Hannah’s website. This page is her bio. There are also 252 pics of her loaded on the page. I was kinda shocked to learn that she’s been dancing since she was 2 1/2. Also there is a picture of her siblings, she is the baby. Two older sisters and an older brother. I unfortunately think she got mom’s genes judging by how big her brother also is and her other two sisters aren’t. Also the fact that she wants to be a professional dancer when she grows up worries me. Poor thing will be in for alot of disappointment.
I just hate this show, it is so damn boring. Can’t get into the arguments because they are far too staged and the dancing is really just weird bends and sharp poses, jerky style and kids don’t seem to ever smile and have fun. I will be so glad when it is over!
What bug went up your crawl?
And where did anyone disagree with me exactly?
I never said Hannah was a good dancer for sure. I definitely said she was the worst and gave examples of how there is always going to be one or two “slower” dancers per team.
Liz was the poster that said Hannah was a good dancer and then Ash1 disagreed with her. I was not a part of any of that conversation.
I hate computers…mine crashed 2x trying to post a reply here, so if you see a duplicate post, please excuse me. April, I was trying to say…just a hater, and don’t lose any sleep over charlieswinning. Charlies a loser. I personally lover your comments. I am and always have been so uncoordinated that I do the proverbial “tripping over a toothpick.” Therefore, I will never know the true dancer’s life. My beautiful daughter is talented, just athletically, she is a hot shot volley ball player. My son is so far removed from dancing….he is an upcoming WWE wrestler, hopefully superstar. So you keep those “analyzing” comments a coming!
Love your comments, I’m not your lover of comments!!!! Teehee!!!!
Effing computer!!!! Dammit!!! #66 should be posted here as #45….
ARRGGGHHHH!!!! I give up!
Maryedith, thanks and good point about her dance attire. Having all her hair tightly pulled into the unicorn bun also makes her look more severe. She almost looks like a different person in her interviews where her hair is down.
Kthxbai, omg… you are probably so right about the origins of ugly foot within Stars. It bugs me every time I see it. Also, they need to give Hannah graceful moves because that would enhance her performance.
Little Kimmy is light on her feet, so they should play that up. I think Jessi might be able to pull off ugly foot without it detracting from her dance, but it seems pointless to ask her to do it.
I wonder if the Sammy/Hannah duet will have ugly foot in stereo?
Aw thanks Josstas-mom. I figured he was just a troll. It did make me wonder if I come off too know it all-y. I am glad you don’t mind my posts.
Everyone is free to ignore my ex dancer opinion if it bothers them.
Are they not going to put this epi on Hulu or Mylifetime.com? I can’t find it there. Wonder if they are waiting till Sat to put them up like they did with original DM?
And she said at the beginning that she didn’t know why she wasn’t on the top of the List since she had won her division at the competition. Which was fair enough but she did look repellently cocky to me when she said it. And how is it an “insecurity” to be tall and pretty? It could be the editing making her look bad but it’s working for me so far.
“What did I expect? I invited them in and I left them alone.”
Before I read past this first charlieswinning comment I want to say that I now have my answer to my question: How did the comment thread jump to 72??? I can’t wait for what comes next.
I don’t believe in artistry without form. If Hannah is that much of an artist she needs to practice more. She may never have the natural ability to make it professionally but her technique would be better if she worked harder. She will grow into a self-pitying complainer like her mother if Victor and Angel keep encouraging this fantasy that you can be a “great dancer” without actually dancing well. There are other art forms that she might be better suited for.
The tall and pretty isn’t her insecurity… people making up their minds about her being stuck up (or whatever) is her insecurity. She believes her tallness and prettiness is why they do this. So, really, she and Hannah have the same insecurity… judged by looks rather than dancing or personality. Remember, she’s been told by her mother that everyone is always jealous.
I forgot about the list comment.
She may indeed be cocky. I don’t know. But, I am giving her the benefit of a doubt. I could be wrong in doing so, but I hope not.
everyones complaining about the whole everyone’s jealous of my kid thing, but the same exact thing happened on Dance Moms with Maddie and nobody complained this much. The episode was eh but at least Lucas wore a shirt durring the group number. Too bad he had his same spandex shorts as last week only a different color in his solo. idk why they have to show so much skin for him. I’m not saying be like Justice and wear like a suit up there but a tank top will work too!
I don’t know if someone already posted this, but in episode one I think Sammy had a solo they did not show. You can see her at the competition walking around in a costume that was not the group number costume.
I remember them telling her she was going to get a solo. Maybe they decided not to show it because she does a lot in episodes two and three.
But, I wish they’d tell us how all of the kids do in their competitions. So many times in the Pittsburgh one they’d show costumes and trophies and never explain either one.
And since I am wishing, it’d be great if they’d put all of the dances on their site. The dancing is what sets this show apart from the other reality shows where people argue.
ABBY’S BACK and Kelly lost her flippin mind! Don’t know if anyone else caught the sneak peek but Kelly served it to Abby in spades and I just slow clapped for her…..
I know I’m early to the party since the epi just ended but I have so much hostility for Bridgette and a poster on the T&T recap I figured I would hit this early. What a frigging shit stirrer! “Um I’m going to go check on something….” as she runs out to VicAng to twist Bob’s words. I get what Bob was saying because Nia’s mom said the same thing this season when Nia was in the trio. The difference is I felt that both dancers rose to the challenge and killed it, where as Nia was truly an underdog. This was probably the best performance either her or Sammy has had so far! Love Ani and Kimmy….