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Tagged: awesome, fake boobs, gelato, guido, hillbilly hoe down, Honey Gangsta, jersey shore, jwoww, miami, old Snook look, pauly d, Platinum Boyz, recap, ridiculous, Sicilian, silicone, snooki, the situation
When Vinny pulls out the pink, look out!
Let’s head back to Miami to play with our favorite guidos! It’s another staggering episode of Jersey Shore!
So where did we leave off? Oh yes, Angelina is tormenting Sitchy D because she would really appreciate it if Pauly D would remember that they once exchanged bodily fluids and it had a special meaning. Pauly D is of course totally over it and over Angelina, and after getting smacked in the face, he’s over being nice to her as well. He dares her to smack him again, but she’s so wasted she ends up just kind of jabbing him in the face. Let’s be honest, the first smack wasn’t even really a smack – it was more like an open palm push, but her intentions are pretty clear. While the three of them are out at the grill screaming at each other Jwoww is awakened from her post-party slumber and emerges to see what is going on.
“What’s out there? Is it a dingo?”
Through the bushes she asks what’s happening and Pauly D yells that Angelina needs to leave the house. Jwoww tells us that Pauly D is the “nicest kid” so she’s very surprised to see him this upset. Sitch tattles to Jwoww that Angelina smacked Pauly three times, which Angelina promptly denies. Loves it. You’ve just been FILMED hitting someone and you stand there straight-faced saying you didn’t. In her (tiny) defense, however, she’s completely trashed. Pauly D is super irate that Angelina is up in his creepin business and Sitch is substantially annoyed that they paid for all of her drinks this evening, ha ha ha.
“Those Stoli shots didn’t buy themselves, ya know!”
Jwoww is still keeping to her promise to beat Angelina’s ass when she sobers up, so she’s pretty much on the outs all the way around.
The next morning Vinny, Ronnie and Jwoww head off to work the first shift at the gelato shop. Jwoww is put out that she has to wear a t-shirt that covers her boobs. She thinks they can’t breathe unless they are mostly exposed. Mine must have asphyxiated years ago as I wear bras daily.
Maybe her earrings can fan some air down her cleavage.
Enzo teaches the gang how to scoop gelato, pour milk, wipe tables and chop fruit to go in the blender. And he’s very particular about the size and shape of the chunks going into the blender. I’ve been experimenting with smoothies lately and I’m no gelato shop owner in Miami, but I’m pretty sure they all wind up as pulp in the end. Enzo takes a special liking to Vinny and calls him Vicenzo (prounounced Vi-CHEN-zo) and they agree to speak Italian to each other. I hope Vinny doesn’t come down with pink eye again and destroy this beautiful relationship.
Back home Angelina is getting the major cold shoulder. Naturally she claims not to remember anything, likely story. Sitch tells her she was even worse than Ronnie was on their first night. Upon “learning” that she smacked Pauly D, she takes him into a bedroom and bursts into tears, saying she’s not comfortable here and that’s why she drank a lot. What can she do? Yeah, I don’t buy it. Maybe she’s a little hazy, but totally blacking out is questionable. She would have had a hard time standing upright if she was at blackout capacity. Let alone speaking clearly or actually making contact between her hand and Pauly D’s face. Pauly D tells her thanks for the apology, but she’s on her own from here on out.
“You’re not getting another piece of this, neither.”
They discuss what each of them is here to do and conclude that they both just want to “have fun.” Pauly D goes, “Unfortunately your fun conflicts with our fun.” Awww, not enough fun to go around I suppose. Well, not when Angelina’s definition of fun is cockblocking and Sitchy D’s definition is cashing in on their newfound glory. Pauly D uses one of his favorite phrases and tells Angelina to “do you.” He would like to leave it at that, but Angelina asks if she can have a “get out of jail free card” since she was drunk. Pauly D’s not having it. He thanks her for her apology but he’s clearly not ready to be buddies.
Later Vicenzo is becoming very worried about his hair. He tells us he has very thick Sicilian hair and so all he can do with it is get a tape up and a fade. I’m assuming he means getting it cut really short and tapered from the top down. I’m not sure because I have very fine Scandinavian hair – probably totes opposite of Vicenzo the Sicilian. I use volumizer and root booster, which maybe Pauly D would know about, but not Vinny. Anyway, Vicenzo says that going without a proper haircut would be like the other guys going without hair gel. He starts making calls to find a suitable barber shop. When he finds one Ronnie goes with him and Vinny tells us that they go to the hood because if a barber can handle a black person’s hair, then he can probably handle Vicenzo’s. I don’t appreciate the racist undertones of Vinny assuming that black people live in the hood. Ha ha. As they stroll along, Ronnie says that “they” are letting the pigeons go right now.
“There they go! They saw us!”
That is awesome. I was JUST watching Training Day and when Denzel Washington entered a particular neighborhood, the residents let off a swarm of pigeons as the signal that he was in the area. I love that Ronnie alluded to something. Very amusing. They arrive at Platinum Boyz Barber Shop (I swear) to see if the barbers here are up to the Sicilian Challenge. Both guys are nervous that they may not get an ideal haircut and very tense music plays as we flash quickly back and forth between their worried faces.
Because hair this length doesn’t grow back in matter of days or anything.
Turns out, there was nothing to fear! The hallelujah chorus plays as both Ronnie and Vicenzo rejoice in their new hairdos. Vinny shows us his fade, saying, “They know how to do it in the hood!” Yay integration!
When Ronnie arrives home he shows Sammi his haircut, asks for a kiss and says he missed her all day. I guess they’re on for the moment. Sammi tells us she thinks that they’re single right now, but working on things and that Ronnie is really trying. Oh just wait.
“Wait, your eyelashes are coming off.”
Sitch visits Angelina who is pouting in her bed (a trick she must have learned from Sammi) and he asks her if she’s okay. Sitch DOES seem like he has a soft spot, even if overall he comes across as completely clueless. He doesn’t want to see his friends hurting. He goes to the patio to talk to the other roommates and implore them to take in Angelina because she can’t spend this entire season doing GTL with the guys then ruining their game at night. He says they should forget the past and go forward. Jwoww says she just wants Angelina to admit that she talked crap about them and then she can move on. Sammi and Snooki just sit there blinking. Sitch goes back inside and invites Angelina to come out with all of them tonight, much to her surprise. She accepts and out comes the hairspray. Snooki gets all done up in what Vicenzo describes as “old Snook look” with a super tight leopard print dress and a super high poof of hair right above her forehead.
Still fitting like a really tight glove, Snooks.
Vicenzo is entranced and tells Snooki she looks hot and takes his breath away. Snooki asks if Vinny is trying to smoosh, but then tells him he looks hot too. In his pink button down. We flash to Pauly D shrugging his shoulders and saying, “Who knows?”
Out at the club Vicenzo is fixated on something else, and that something else is Jwoww’s rack. He tells us that her boobs defy gravity and that Albert Einstein should come back to rewrite his laws of physics based on Jwoww’s chest. It’s called silicone, Vinny. Don’t they have that in Sicily?
Her shirt isn’t defying gravity either. It’s called double-stick tape.
Meanwhile Snooki takes pity on Angelina because she remembers what it was like last season when she got off on the wrong foot with everyone. She takes Angelina aside and tells her that if she’ll just admit that she talked s*** then everyone will bring her in.
Your hair is really flat.
For once Angelina is receptive and admits immediately to Snooki that she said stuff about her. Snooki is actually totally cute about it, screams “Thank you!” and praises her for being honest. They hug it out. To us, Angelina says she was being the bigger person. Pshhh. You were backed into a corner, liar. Jwoww is next to hear Angelina’s admission and she’s sweet about it too. I DO like Jwoww more and more. She’s very entertaining and seems like a loyal friend. I am also really liking her new and improved non-skunk look.
Out on the dance floor, Vicenzo looks like he’s doing a square dance, but I’m sure that if we could hear the house music it would look much more like “beating up the beat” or “battling.” As it is, though, it just looks humorous.
Son of a gun we’ll have big fun on the bayou!
And it looks like we have to pay attention to Sammi and Ronnie for a minute, crap. She tells us that they were having a fantastic night out until she looked over and noticed that Ronnie was wasted, which she doesn’t appreciate. Get used to disappointment, Sammi. It’s the Season 2 Ronnie. And he’s joining Vicenzo’s hillbilly hoe down. He tries to give Sammi a gyrating lap dance, but she’s not impressed. She’s even got her sunglasses on so we won’t know that it’s her getting the lap dance. Who’s fooled? Besides me, I mean.
Of all the things she’s done on camera, this is where she draws the line?
Ronnie starts whining that Sammi is being a party pooper and she might as well go home and here we go again. Sammi’s like, “Fine, I’ll go!” she storms off and Ronnie turns his attention to the other young ladies in the club. She tells us she and Ronnie are through… again.
The girls go home with Sammi, where she tearily retires to her pouting corner. Oh wait, Snooki is still at the club and she’s watching Ronnie get his creep on. She asks Ronnie if he’s sure he wants to be acting like this and that he should have a line he doesn’t cross. Ronnie’s just like, “Whateva,” and goes back to the ho’s. Snooki asks Pauly D if she should tell Sammi and like a typical guy he just shrugs. Guys usually just want to stay out of stuff and girls are the opposite (in my experience). It’s funny that they are seeing the exact same thing, one thinks it’s none of his concern and the other thinks she owes it to her friend to fill her in.
“I do not like green eggs and ham.”
Then Snooki makes the mistake of trying to reason with Drunk Ronnie and he pushes her away, so the guys grab him and tell him it’s time to go home.
At home Ronnie is stumbling around again, bragging about how successful he was with the ladies He even triumphantly pulls out a phone number he received: 786-985. Hmm, someone gave him a fake number. Most phone numbers have seven digits, but what does that matter to Ronnie right now? He falls down and then goes to sleep with Sammi again. She lets him. Sitch tells us that Sammi must have an idea of what’s going on but doesn’t want to believe it. Kind of like letting go of the tooth fairy.
“If you promise to leave two quarters and a candy bar under my pillow.”
Elsewhere Vicenzo has passed out on the big round cushion chair next to the phone, which is getting in the way of Snooki drunk dialing her boyfriend and hicupping in his ear. Emilio picks up and tells her it’s six in the morning and she just keeps saying, “‘N I gotha hiccups,” while reaching over and grabbing Vinny, who thinks this is hilarious. Snooki screams into the phone when she accidentally knocks over the phone table and while Emilio is still talking on the other end she hangs up on him. Vinny gets up to go to bed and he tells Snooki to come sleep with him for companionship (for his privates). She asks him if he wants to do it with her and he says sure, but he’s barely conscious.
When he wakes up later he is horrified to discover Snooki in bed with him and wonders if they smooshed. It doesn’t look like it – Snooki’s still in her leopard print and poof. But that doesn’t stop the roommies from giving him crap. The other news around the house is that Ronnie and Sammi are in bed together and how ridiculous those two are. Jwoww is now on the Snooki bandwagon, wondering if they need to fill Sammi in on what Ronnie does after she leaves the clubs. She calls him a true pig. Word. Sammi’s an idiot, though, for letting him into bed. The disastrous duo has to work a shift together at the gelato shop today. Ronnie helps Sammi tell the difference between passionfruit and mango and then hugs her and calls her his girlfriend. Sammi rejoices. Whatevs. Let’s move on.
At home everyone is discussing their options for the evening’s activities. The girls are wanting to go play pool somewhere but the guys are wanting to go to a club to creep. Pauly D gets totally wound up and excited when he puts on his red shoes, telling us this is how we know it’s serious. If I saw a guy in red shoes the last word that would come to my mind is “serious.”
Souvenirs from clown school?
They’re all in their “shirts before the shirt” and dub tonight an MVP night. Get it? Mike, Vicenzo, Pauly. Another guido-ism.
Checkin out the MVP. This must be the mirror-cam.
Vinny explains that they are the most valuable players in the MIA (Miami) supporting the GFF (grenade free foundation – what’s up with all of their foundations? Are they raising money here?). Angelina comes in and wants to participate in MVP night, which makes all of they guys groan. They tell her not to come and she thinks they’re messing with her and being funny. She is so clueless. She’s determined to come with them, so the second she looks away MVP tear out the door and into a cab without her. Mission accomplished! We get a shot of Angelina sitting at the pool place with the girls holding a pool cue and there are crickets chirping in the background. Ha ha ha!!!
Least valuable player.
Turns out it’s not such a good night for hotties at b.e.d. where the guys are hanging out. We are told, in fact, that there are grenades everywhere. Just as Vicenzo and Pauly D determine that they’ve never in their lives seen a club this badly stocked, they notice Sitch across the room trying to talk some girls into coming home with them.
Guasians?
Vinny says that even though they are in the Bronx Zoo Sitchy D are going to find whomever they can get to come back to the house, saying they would take home a stray dog if there were no girls left. This is how my sister is with shopping. I can do a quick once-over in a store and conclude that there’s nothing for me today, but my sister will sift through every single rack and round up the least ugly items to try on before leaving the store empty handed. Exactly how Sitchy D is with women. As Ronnie said last season, “I’m sure they’ll scrape something off the boardwalk to bring home.”
They manage to get a herd back to the house, out onto the patio and into the hot tub. Sitch tells us that at one point he remembers splashing water in his face and then noticing, “We’ve got grenades, man!” HA! Like this is the first time he’s actually seeing who they brought home.
“This? After all of my reconnaissance?“
Pauly D either still hasn’t noticed or doesn’t care because he is all entwined with his grenade, or as Sitch says, “One of the hyenas hypnotized him.”
Serenity now.
Then one of the girls sees a boob cutlet floating in the hot tub and no one knows what it is. Oh come on. The girls totally know what it is, but no one is fessing up. The guys play catch with it and Pauly D offers to grill it up. Sitch says after that they had to get rid of the girls, so they seriously hand them all towels and push them out the door. Thanks for playing!
Snooki and The Situation pull a shift at the gelato shop and there is a big problem. Snooki can’t see over the counter. For reals. She can’t see the customers and she can’t reach the gelato. Enzo brings her out a stool and schools her for an extended period of time on the art of scooping. Sitch decides that business is slow so he’s going to stand out in front of the shop shirtless and round up some customers. Ew. We get a montage of him standing there half naked trying to entice people to come have a gelato and no one is paying any attention to him. Awwwww, too bad.
“Anyone want to see more? Anyone?”
Snooki says he looks like a freaking dirty old man standing outside of an ice cream shop without his shirt on. When it gets dark and there are still no customers, Sitch and Snooki go outside to look at a huge dog statue. Sitch asks Snooki if she wants to “ride the camel” and lifts her onto it. She says it hurts her vagina but she likes it. All righty then.
That night is another going out dilemma. The boys are going clubbing and Jwoww and Snooki are going out to eat. Sammi and Ronnie are content to lie in bed until Ronnie hears everyone’s plans and tells Sammi that if she wants to go with the girls he’ll totally go with the guys. Sammi is horrified, but tells him to do whatever he wants to do – girl code for “don’t you f-ing dare.” Ronnie doesn’t catch on and jumps up to go with the guys. Sammi can’t believe his nerve and is very angry and upset. Ronnie has no clue what he wants. Yesterday he was calling her his girlfriend, but tonight he tells us that he’s here in Miami to have a good time and go out. They’re both completely psychotic. He kisses Sammi goodbye on his way out to go kiss whatever else comes along.
Like this, for instance.
Snooki invites Sammi to go with them but Sammi would rather hold still and pout. Why doesn’t she just go with the girls? At least to distract herself? She is the queen of self torture. Over dinner Snooki and Jwoww discuss what a jerk Ronnie is being and whether they should tell Sammi. I love how Jwoww puts it: “It’s not a good look for him. It’s not a good look for US.” I like that they want to stick up for Sammi, even though she sucks. They figure she’ll find out anyway, so maybe they have a responsibility to tell her.
And next week they do! Via an anonymous typed note. Ha ha! Who is she going to think wrote it, for crying out loud? I can’t wait to find out!
So what do you think? What’s up with the guys STILL not being able to snag any hot girls?
Thanks for reading!
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Sammi would have to know that the anonymous typed note came from someone in the house, but it would still allow everyone to avoid Ronnie’s wrath (if he finds out) because he wouldn’t be able to prove which one of them wrote it. Unless one of them gets loaded and blurts out the truth. Which, as we all know, could NEVER happen. Cough.
They spent at least two minutes explaining “MVP,” the most obvious acronym ever invented on this show, over and over again. I felt like screaming, “ALL RIGHT! WE GET IT! MIKE, VINNY, AND PAULY MAKE MVP! DON’T EVER SPEAK OF IT AGAIN UNTIL YOU ALL WIN THE GODDAMN CONN SMYTHE TROPHY!”
Angelina is one of those girls who almost made it into one-of-the-guys territory but screwed it up by proving how high-maintenance she is. Once you’re out, you can never get back in, especially not when there’s this much alcohol involved. It’s a good thing Jwoww and Snooki are willing to accept apologies and move forward, unlike Pauly, who accepts apologies and doesn’t move at all.
Call me crazy, but Vinny and Snooki would actually make an adorable couple, more so than her and any juicehead she’s ever dated. Imagine him bringing her home to meet Mama and all the uncles. I’d pay good money to see that.
I am the last one to defend Angelina and there’s a very good chance she remembers what she did, but I have woken up many-a-morning after a drunken night to find out that I did something embarrassing that I completely don’t remember. And I seemed coherent to the people around me. I’m just saying….it happens. I think people are clutching too hard to the fact that they don’t like her to maybe cut her a little slack in this situation (I mean the viewers…not the cast members. If I had to deal with her on a daily basis, I’d use that night as my “out” to be done with her, too).
Ronnie’s totally the one that’s on coke. http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/06/exclusive-jersey-shore-cocaine-scandal
I have to agree with @JudgyWudgy on the blackout theory, although I think Derangelina probably does remember more than she says.
This show just surprises me – by all counts I should loathe this train-wreck, but I’m weirdly drawn to it in ways I never expected…
MVP are endearing in spite of their sleaze; somehow even though they’re always on some cockamamie escapade to get laid they come out looking like reasonably decent guys. The girls they pick are sleazy, and when push comes to shove they push and shove them out the door before sealing the deal.
Snooki and Jennie are sweet girls, who seem to really have developed into good friends. They’re a little rough around the edges, but good kids nonetheless. The scene with Vinny and Snooki was actually really sweet – I agree with @Jess Chapman, they are cute together.
Ronnie, Sammi and Derangelina just don’t belong in this group. I think Ronnie has all the signs of being a classic abuser, and he’s a mean drunk. I have no idea why Sammi thinks this is the best she can do, her poor self-esteem will ruin her life if she doesn’t get it under control.
Ronnie’s acting like such a tool this season, I liked him better last season when he was Sammi’s love slave. Snooki cracks me up, love her so much. I would kill to see the reaction of the “hyenas” when they watch this episode.
What do you guys think about this parody of the Jersey Shore cast? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dMYwrWoNR0
Sammi is spot on, IMO..and ther speech of Pauly D, as well. I also liked what ‘Ronnie’ and “Vinny’ was saying! LOLz
I would not tell Sammi anything. If you allow someone to disrespect you like that then why would I cause more drama when there will be no resolution.
Sammi SUCKS
Doesn’t the girl code strictly require Jenni and Snooki to tell Sam? Just as the guy code requires MVP to keep their mouths shut? The anonymous letter is ridiculous, since it will obviously have been from one of the girls.
I have to admit I thought this season would suck, and that the show couldn’t be the same once the cast became famous. I have to admit I was wrong. I think the key is that they all acted like they were famous when nobody knew who they were, so now it’s like they haven’t changed at all.
I suspect they guys are getting plenty of hookups with good looking girls, but grenade encounters are funny and make for better TV so that’s what gets on the show. Very funny recap HG!
I agree with your assessment Jason. I also mentioned some where else that I think taking them out of their normal environment helped also. Miami is wayyyyyyyyy different than the Jersey Shore. There are real famous people there.
It is girl code is to tell Sammi, but in my experience it is never good. The guy ends up hating you and so your friendship is affected with the girl. In the end, unless you know that girl is going to either leave the guy or make a change in the relationship why get the drama started.
Sammi is so freaking dumb. She told Ronnie to do what he wanted, and then got mad when he did what he wanted. I loved how Snooki told Sammi that she tested Ronnie on the whole not going out/going out thing, and Sammi goes, “And he failed.” Then Snooki called her a jerk off! Nicely, but still, Snooks was right on to call Sammi out on it.
What has my life become??
This weeks episode was like watching a remake of “Animal House” without any charm, heroes, or much humor. Ronnie’s drug use is disturbing to watch. The slurred words, looking at his own hand like he never saw it before makes him look even worse than I thought. I’d feel sorry for him but instead I’ll just feel sorry for Sam because his verbal abuse, constant cheating and mind games would be exhausting to be around. I’ll also feel sorry for his family. His parents are probably mortified and rightly so. I hope his little brother doesn’t have trouble because of Ron’s actions.
As far as the others? I want Vinnie and Snooks to fall head over heels in love with each other, I want Sam to fall for JWowww and mike and Paulie, they’ve already had sex with Angelina so I think they should hook up with Paulie’s stalker chick and maybe the chick who charged at Snooks like a freaking hippo. Lol
Now that would be a great show.
Am I the only one who died laughing during the Snookie-Vinny phone scene when she was trying to hang up the phone and kept “hanging up” the duck sitting next to the phone? My wife and I rewound that part 3 times.
Totally agree with everything you said Jason and Classy. I too thought what could season 2 possibly be about. But I do like it. Except for Sam and Ronnie. Classy it has also been my experience if you tell the girl, for some reason its like you were the one cheating on her, and not her man. If Sam allows him to call her a cunt and a bitch, it appears she will put up with just about anything. I think until she watches it for herself, and then feels foolish and embarrassed, she will stay. She is also young. I too was that young and dumb with my college boyfriend. Woooo, lesson learned.
Recap was hilarious HG. Loved the part about your sister finding the the least ugliest thing to buy instead of leaving empty handed. My mom is the same way, lol. I thought the barbershop part was hilarious, especially about the pigeons. I wondered if anyone watching would get it and think it was funny too.
@kdog, My mom used to say when she gets tired she will leave and there’s nothing you can say that will make her tired. I found this to be so true as I got older.
@nashuaf, My brother and I were in fits laughing at that scene. It was hilarious.
I really thought that reality famewhore stardom would have gone to their heads and ruined the second season, but it doesn’t seem to have just yet.
(Well except when Mike ordered food in the last episode and he gave the name Situation. and giving the name Situation. It reminded me of the Luanne’s use of Countess (on The Real Housewives of new York) when ordering a pizza and having to repeatedly. After the person taking the order doesn’t understand the name after saying it five or six times; one would think that they would just move on and use their normal name.)
I thought that the fame may, would at least, help Pauly D and the Situation to get some girls, but so far it hasn’t seem to. I guess no amount of fame can over come the repugnant smell of Axe Body Spray and douche bag. Miami is full of beautiful people who are probably much more interested in hooking up with each other than with some MTV reality stars. I am sure that they will have better luck at using their fame to close the deal when they go to Atlantic City. Anything has to work better than the hot tub routine from season one.
I also think the lack of hook ups is a little bit of karma, for all the talk of grenades and land mines. Alright so karma doesn’t work like that, but they are reaping what they sowed. I like how Mike attempts to bullshit is by saying he splashed some water on his face and realized that they were surrounded by grenades. More like you sobered up a little and realized that some of the girls weren’t as attractive as you once thought they were. Also if Mike would take off those fucking sunglass then he might be able to see the girls. What cracks me up is when he is wearing them inside and he has to look over the glasses because he can’t see since it is probably too dark inside.
I hate to admit it, but Pauly D. and Mike are just so damn likable when they aren’t being sexist pigs. I like when Mike tries to be sweet or encouraging to the other housemates. Although, I would trust him with a secret because he loves to sit around and gossip.
Oh Angelina. The girl is just plain stupid. You can’t lie about your actions, five minutes after you just slapped Pauly especially with Mike and Pauly standing right there. Maybe she could lie about the next day if she was just talking to JWWWOW, but not when other witnesses are around. I can’t wait to see if she actually bothers to show up to work this season.
Ronnie & Sam need to be soundly beaten about the head with a ball peen hammer. Anything that it takes to make them realize that they should not be in a relationship.
I am not sure what Ronnie is one. The waving his hand in front of his face was a little suspect. People who do that are, generally, tripping on acid or taking ecstasy since they both cause hallucinations. For the most part coke doesn’t cause someone to hallucinate, but mixing coke with large amounts of drinking. Hell just coke alone can cause feelings of dissociation, making a user feel unconnected to their body, which could cause the hand waving thing. (Hey I have know many addicts and just some normal recreational drug users in my life)
I wonder how many of the boys are on steroids? Could that be the cause of Ron’s behavior?
All the slurring and intense intoxication makes it seem like that it is more likely that he is mixing prescription pills with alcohol. His behavior doesn’t seem like he is taking coke, but who the hell knows? He isn’t just drinking and it is sad to watch him be self destructive. I just feel that it is irresponsible to sit back and watch people actively destroying themselves. Ronnie isn’t that bad off, yet.
As for the Snooki talking to Sam issue. It is a friend’s responsibility to talk her friend when they see them doing negative and hurtful things to themselves. Snooki doesn’t have to tell Sammi about what Ronnie is doing out in the clubs. If she feels like this would be a betrayal of her friendship with Ronnie or would cause too much drama.
Snooki could just talk to Sam about how she feels when Ronnie calls her a cunt, gets aggressive or goes out all night and then sleeps in her bed. My friends care enough about me to talk with me when they see I am struggling. The conversation could have just focused on Sammi. It isn’t Snooki’s responsibility to get Sammi to make a change, but it is enough to just talk with her.
This situation would only happen when the cast moves to the shores of emotional maturity. Because Snooki is more interested in creating some drama and getting some attention shined her way, so she can’t have a conversation with Sammi without mentioning Ronnie’s kissing orgies at da club. That wouldn’t be exciting enough and she couldn’t talk to everyone about how she doesn’t know what to say to Sammi.
Best line was when Snooki said, “Mike finds an excuse to take his shirt one or twice a day.”
OMG, Sarcasatire, that parody is hilarious! I love Sammi, “Staaaaap, Ronnie, staaaap. You’re traaaaumatizing me.” Then the scene in the cabs… awesome.
JasonR you may be onto something with your theory about them acting like they were famous before anyone knew who they were. That could be the key right there to many successful seasons.
-HG
“@nashuaf, My brother and I were in fits laughing at that scene. It was hilarious.” @classy drunk…
I died too, it was hilarious.
I once told a friend of mine her boyfriend was doing heroine, AND with another girl, after she begged me to tell her if I had heard anything. I actually saw it go down, and after thinking it over for two days, I called her and told her what was up. And that was the end of that friendship. As well as the one with her boyfriend who I was better friends with, but was really worried about.
Sammi already knows she can’t trust Ronnie, she just chooses to ignore that fact for now hoping he will turn into the guy she wants. He’s abusive, and he has a serious substance abuse problem. He lies, he cheats, he undermines her self-esteem and contributes to her sense of isolation – and for some reason Sammi is actually not just accepting this, she’s asking to be part of it.
Sammi isn’t one of the girls, and even though Snooki and Jennie feel bad for her, what they’re really worried about is being exposed for knowing something about her she doesn’t know. It all comes down to how Sammi reacts, and how the others are weighing out the consequences of it. That in and of itself is really telling when it comes to Sammi’s character.
She and Ronnie don’t belong on a show like this, they’re both too damaged and the way it plays out socially is stressful to the other roommates.
I’m also really surprised at how fresh this show stayed, and how much I really like the cast (except for Sammi, Ronnie and Angelina).
When it comes to Ronnie, I think it’s very clear that last year he spent the summer whining and fighting with Sam while Mike and Pauly went out. Appearance fees for Mike and Paul were sky-high while Ron PLUS Sam ran about 3 grand. Ronnie probably got a talking to from his boys at home–go out and have fun. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity don’t blow it on some whiny chic. Ronnie missed the fame that Pauly and Mike got and now he’s trying to catch it. IMO.
As for Sammi–she needs therapy. Her jealousy issues and self esteem are frightening. I do believe Snooki and JWOWW should tell Sammi. She doesn’t KNOW he’s doing this while he’s out. I think Sammi wants to believe he’s sitting around missing her-hence his coming home and climbing into bed with her. What kind of girls are we that we are suddenly siding with pig-like men and then saying ‘she deserves it for being sad?’ No one deserves that. Be an adult and be a good human/friend.
I love Mike and Pauly. I agree with everyone who says I want to be annoyed by them but they just entertain me. Angelina needs to go. She’s another one trying to cash in on the money she missed last season. You missed the boat sweetie-move on.
I think this was a very good episode. It felt like the first season, before they were famous (minus the VIP sections). I think it can do good this season-not sure if they have another one.
Prodigal,
I told a friend that her boyfriend was cheating. I saw him climb out of her bedroom window when I was leaving for school. Of course the only relationship that ended was mine and hers. My boyfriend at the time said I should have minded my own business. Then I found out he was cheating on me!
God weren’t your 20′s Hell?
TVannie
@Jersey – I’m not sure if you’re including me in your comment about siding with pig-like men, and then saying Sammi deserves to be sad, but I’d like to explain where I’m coming from a little more. I definitely don’t side with Ronnie, I’ve consistently said he’s an abuser and Sammi should get away from him. However, I do think Sammi is responsible for the decisions she makes, and these are some of the decisions she’s made about Ronnie so far:
1) He called her a c*nt, and she allowed him into her bed later that night.
2) He ground his crotch into her face at the club even though she clearly didn’t like it, and when she asked him to stop he responded by calling her a bitch.
3) After he called her a bitch at the club, and ordered her to leave; she did. Then let him back into her bed later that night.
4) They can’t socialize with other people without fighting, she gets upset with his behavior and leaves, he stays. He has yet to either follow her out and make sure she’s safe leaving, or try to talk about what’s driving the problems that make it hard for her to stay out with him.
Sammi is making choices and accepting behavior the other girls wouldn’t, they aren’t the ones making excuses for Ronnie – and even the other guys are disgusted – Sammi is making the excuses. I also think Ronnie’s violence plays into this – Snooki called him on his behavior in the club and he pushed her hard enough that the other guys intervened and immediately put an end to the night. Sammi has seen Ronnie’s violence first hand, and egged it on – it doesn’t seem to bother her as much as does everyone else.
I don’t feel sorry for Sammi because she has made the decision to accept unacceptable behavior from Ronnie, and she has also not reached out to the girls. They have no reason to put themselves on the line for her, other than that they are genuinely decent people who feel a moral obligation to do the right thing by her as a fellow woman.
It’s just my take on it @Jersey, and I see your point too
I guess the situation with them got under my skin a little… LOL.
@TVannie – God, if I knew then what I know now…. LOL. I had fun, but boy I don’t think I would do that again, LOL!!! I think that’s why I enjoy this show so much though – although my 20′s were a lot more sedate, because I had to work. Hahaha!
I would still tell her. I feel that all women are my sisters, in a way. And if she isn’t their friend, what do they have to lose? It might plant a seed in her mind. Besides, if I told her, then I could live with myself because I did what I thought is right.
(That’s a lot to expect of a 20-something, I know.)
@prodigal I see what you’re saying. I wasn’t directing it at you specifically. To be honest, sometimes I read comments and just take them as a whole instead of directed at certain people.
You make all very good points. I just feel like with all the cheating going on in this world women tend to not want to say anything out of fear of losing their ‘friendship’ but if you truly valued the friendship and were concerned about your friend you would not want them to be humiliated or even exposed to potentially dangerous transmittable diseases. I find it hard to believe that years down the line that person would be like “yeah, f* her she told me my boyfriend was cheating on me… and he was” (because in this case–she WILL find out!)
Sammi definitely has a lot of responsibility in this situation. It’s evident that she can’t handle the relationship. Sometimes some tough love from your friends saying “look this is what is going on and it’s not a good look’ (as JWOWW says) can be just what someone needs. We all know what it’s like in our 20′s when you just can’t seem to see what everyone else see’s.
I guess I get frustrated by the fact that there is even a question in telling her. Not to say that the other stuff should not have made her leave but you never know what will be the final straw!
Lovely chatting with you Prodigal!
When it comes to telling your friends about cheating…have proof! That’s why they invented cell phones cameras, phone records, and email hackers, lol. Because when you do approach your friend and say that her bf is cheating, she is going to want irrefutable proof. Or it will be his word against yours. (and you don’t have a penis, WORD). So, you lose!
(In the case of jersey Shore, is he really cheating..dancing with a girl in the club? The kiss was before they got back together..it was the first night. Plus, JWow & Snooki weren’t there so they can’t tell her he is cheating by hearsay or secondhand info. What girl is gonna listen to “I heard you bf was cheating on you” and go and dump him?)
@Jersey and @Pixielated, I actually agree with you in regards to telling Sammi – I would be really conflicted about it myself. But the reason I wouldn’t is because I learned from experience, and from other people’s experiences, that those are the situations where the messenger gets shot in the ass.
What I WOULD do though is let Sammi see for herself what Ronnie is up to. I would call her from the club and say, “You really need to get down here, Ronnie’s in bad shape.” Then let the chips fall where they may. I’m a big believer in letting people’s actions speak for themselves, and leaving as little space for me to be in the middle as possible. What would be better than providing irrefutable proof that Ronnie is lying than to show him in action?
I agree about being in your 20′s being more difficult too – dramatic fights and making up gets mistaken for passion, when in fact it’s just instability. I had my times too – and my share of assholes. So, I’m not without empathy for Sammi but there has to be a line. If any guy ever spoke to me the way Ronnie speaks to her I would have been long gone, and there definitely wouldn’t have been room in my bed right after dropping the c word.
You guys are both right, and I enjoy the conversation too!
OMG – saracasatire did we just actually AGREE on something?!?! LOL, I’m going to have to frame this and put it on my FB page, LOL.
*thunder claps!* *lightning strikes!* *The earth opens and swallows us whole*
HaHa! Yes, and I’ll print in out and tape it to my fridge.
I agree with you. I would definitely not want to be dragged into the middle of it. After thinking about it, I did tell someone once that another woman was talking about how this girls boyfriend was calling her, etc,etc. It didn’t work out in my favor. He even got my number and called and cursed me out (I didn’t know him). It was what it was, in my opinion. She stayed with him and hated me. Ah well- I did what I know to be the right thing and laugh when I see them out (to myself, of course).
They should definitely let her see the situation for herself. But I do agree with you, she should not let him talk to her like that. It is a very solid rule I have in relationships–no name calling. You can say ‘you’re being bitchy’ but anything else is too far (and very hard for me to get over,actually). Seems we are all on the same page!
I guess I stirred up quite a conversation here. I would not tell a girlfriend based on my specific experiences. My experiences occurred in my early 20′s (in my last months of the 20′s now), and it never turned out well. It always turned into “classy is jealous” and “classy is bitter” which (obviously) isn’t the case, but they wanted their man so badly to be a good guy that they overlooked what I had to say and began to believe what they guys were saying.
I would do something along the lines of what P Cheez said and say “Hey girl I see your guy at Applebees” and then let her take care of the rest of it.
Apparently you know very little about ‘blacking out’. Do some research, as real writers do anyway. You’d be surprised.
Wow Kabob, you’re kind of an asshole. And Angelina was probably faking, but nonetheless
Honey Gangsta is a real writer, and a damn good one at that.
Aw thanks Prodigal Cheez. Stroking my ego is always appreciated!
Honestly you guys, I’m going on my very own experience. I have blacked out only one time and I was in far too crappy shape to have smacked anyone or said anything coherent. I never claimed to have the drinking stamina of a guido, so I’m not surprised if I’m wrong.
Lovers the comments – even from the haters. ;-P
-HG
Sorry Honey G, I probably shouldn’t have posted that comment; it was a knee-jerk reaction. There’s been some nasty stuff toward some of the writers lately, and I have a problem with it because A) The writing here is excellent B) If someone doesn’t like a particular writer, then they should not read the recaps, or just not leave a comment and move on.
I prefer some recappers over others, but that’s a question of style or substance and entirely subjective to my tastes. I respect ALL of the people who contribute to the content of this site, and I think insulting someone in a forum where they are clearly well-liked, respected and admired is not only rude to the writer, but disrespectful to the other commenters – just as it would be in a non-virtual setting.
Anyway, I know I was out of line and I apologize – even to @Kabob – but only for MY rudeness, not the sentiment that motivated it.
I really do enjoy reading your recaps, including “Bethenny Getting Married?” – I don’t comment on that one because I follow the show late due to time constraints, but you really are a fantastic writer.
***style or substance **** Should have been “style OVER substance”.
@ProdigalCheez: I would not object to considered opinions done in a friendly way (as a few people did when poor Twunty was overwhelmed), but just rudeness (like Kabob)is uncalled-for. If he/she had been able to provide some insight into blackouts, that would have been of value. It’s pretty odd to expect a recapper at a site that is basically here for snark and satire to do serious research. It’s great if they do, but hardly a requirement!
On the other hand, if somebody expresses an opinion that is contrary to that of the majority, I’ve noticed that they often get attacked. That’s not right, either, and it was great that you saw that and apologized.
As I understand it, advanced alcoholics (I mean those that have been alcoholics for years)sometimes do black out when drunk, and continue to act the same; then the next day, they have no memory of anything. I kind of doubt that Angelina is enough of a drinker to be at that stage, but who knows? Anyhow, it’s a sign that drinking has become a problem and you should cut back or quit.
As for @Kabob: Bless his/her heart!
I think that my suggestion is a good one. (Sorry my mama didn’t love me enough and I have self esteem issues, so I am trying to fix that by giving my own self pats on the back. I am not trying to sound like an asshole when I say my idea was a good one, just trying to improve my self image which makes me sound like an asshole.) Anyway. This is not the confessional on The Real World, but oh a girl can dream.
But I think that if J-WOW and Snickers. I like that better than Snooki are truly concerned about Sammi then they should just go up and open up a conversation with her. It doesn’t have to be about Ronnie’s behavior in the clubs. I really hope they do because it seems like Sammi could use some outside input. Her self esteem is too wasted right now for her to think straight.
She needs to read the news article that says getting over and ex is as hard as getting off coke. Maybe that is why Ronnie is snorting up rails of Peruvian Lady?
**side note: I am not defending him, but is he really cheating. He has only called her his girlfriend once and all he is doing is kissing a few randos in the bar. I wouldn’t call that cheating in relation to their situation.
But Snooki and J-Wow should just see if they can get Sammi to open up about her feelings about Ronni and they don’t have to bring up anything that he does. If they do avoid talking about his behaviors at da club then it is more likely that Sammi will actually talk to them. If they do bring it she will probably freak out, start crying and then just shut down.
Ronnie cheating isn’t the issue. The issue is how Sammi feels about herself. What Sammi wants out of a relationship. What needs to feel safe, to feel loved, what she needs from Ronnie. Maybe she is getting what she needs?
The problem is that all too often others think that they have figured out what their friend needs and when their friend doesn’t need what their friend thinks they do; they other friend the feels offended. Or like her friend isn’t listening to her advice. Sammi may be okay with her relationship with Ronnie. J-Wow and Snook thinks that she shouldn’t be with him. If they confront her and she says she is okay then they are going to get angry and not realize Sammi needs to come to her own realization on what constitutes a healthy relationship.
Also Snooki and J-Wow (her name is the worst) also need to not become invested in the choice the Sammi makes after they confront her about Ronnie’s actions. They can make her life all about them and get wrapped up in the intensity and drama of it, but well they are who they are and that is likely not going to happen. This reality television. They are not responsible for the choice that Sammi makes in life, she is going to have to change on her own when she becomes capable of making change
Anyway. I have no idea what the fuck I am babbling about. I have five more days to finish up three classes: one in which I have to finish writing my biggest ass psychology honors project. Guess what section I am on? The relationship section. Hey Snooki isn’t just a waste of Aqua Net and Bump-Its, she is also my psychology muse.
Oh yeah black out drinking. It has happened to me one or two times, so I could see it happening to Angeline. The one time it happened my friends thought that I was fine, just a little drunk. I was walking around, coherent, not babbling. The other time I was slurring, stumbling around and not really making any sense. Well that describes pretty much all the cast drunk or not. But she could have been blacked out? She was just acting a little too sober for that.
HG- I feel like I have followed you from show to show, and I have to say that with each iteration you get better and better. I want to say that the first recap I read of your was it ANTM? That does seem right, but anyway you have hit your stride with this jersey folks.
“What’s out there? Is it a dingo?” Whenever my dog bark at the door, I ask her that question. She immediately runs and gets her stuffed fox which is closely enough to dingo. Any it makes me laugh, so thank you for adding humor to me day. I need it.
@ Kabob
“Apparently you know very little about ‘blacking out’. Do some research, as real writers do anyway. You’d be surprised.”
Apparently you know much more,so mayhaps you could enlighten us? And if you could,would you please be a doll and write your experiences in the form of a research paper? I am sure folks like us that aren’t “real writers” will appreciate it.As a matter of fact, I am not really writing this post.
Robin
Aw you guys are awesome! I love reading the discussions that happen here and it’s my pleasure to make fun of whatever disaster is currently being presented to us on TV.
With the black out thing – I think as most of you realized, my main intention was not to inform about the logistics of blacking out, but to point out that I thought Angelina was faking so she wouldn’t be held responsible. I even said that she may have been a little hazy on what went down, I just didn’t think she blacked out. Obvs, she COULD have, but I doubted it when I was watching. She just seems sneaky.
LOVE you guys for reading my recaps. It’s so important to us non-writers to have support and feedback. HOLLA!!
-HG
“Apparently you know much more,so mayhaps you could enlighten us? And if you could,would you please be a doll and write your experiences in the form of a research paper? I am sure folks like us that aren’t “real writers” will appreciate it.As a matter of fact, I am not really writing this post.”
Smirk! Yep, we definitely have some kinship, Robin. You said it with a lot more class than I did – Kudos! XO
@Bridget Miller – ““What’s out there? Is it a dingo?” Whenever my dog bark at the door, I ask her that question. She immediately runs and gets her stuffed fox which is closely enough to dingo. Any it makes me laugh, so thank you for adding humor to me day. I need it.”
LOL!!! I do, “What’s that girl??? Timmy’s in the well???” LOL, people think I’m an idiot, and I’m pretty sure my dog does too…
I still maintain though that trying to have a conversation, you know will be emotionally charged, with someone like Sammi is heavily weighted toward being a losing proposition. I think doing the right thing, as opposed to doing the right thing for yourself can be a real moral quagmire. If Sammi (or whomever) isn’t ready to receive information, she will go into immediate denial and either blame you, or attach false motives to you; and in the end that serves no one’s best interest. In fact, what it’s most likely to do is drive Sammi and Ronnie closer together because it’s “them against the world”, and Sammi becomes even more isolated than she was before.
What I’ve found in my life is that my girlfriend can be married to or dating the biggest fuckweasel on the planet, and the whole town might know it, but if she loves him she can’t see it, and she doesn’t want to see it. The way I offer my friendship is to let her live her life, and always be open to what she says about her relationship while outwardly reserving judgment. I get a better sense about what is really going on if she feels she can talk to me, than if she’s always putting a good face on it so she doesn’t have to worry about me making value judgments about her personal life.
That being said, if I thought there was real physical abuse happening I would handle it differently – but in some ways that’s even more dangerous. If her husband was openly cheating, and I knew it for a fact, I would try to expose the information through other means. What good does it do her, or our friendship, if the method I used to tell her information like that alienates us from each other? I would rather be a source of empathy and support than a delivery system, and having an intact relationship with my friend is the only way to offer that.
The bottom line is that Jennie and Snooki are not really very good friends of Sammi’s; I’m all for girls supporting girls, but last season Ronnie and Jennie’s friendship was a real sore spot for Sammi, so this dynamic isn’t really so simple. Snooki has also tried to get Sammi to stop isolating and spend time with the girls and she has been rebuffed at every turn, Sammi isn’t a very easy girl to talk to – she’s very shut-down emotionally.
I think what should happen is this: Jennie and Snookie should talk to Ronnie when he’s sober and hold him accountable. They should tell him he’s putting them in a terrible position with Sammi and that it’s unfair, and he either needs to come clean or break it off – that they will not tacitly support his behavior because it’s now becoming a problem for the entire house. Then they should draw the line in the sand, “If it happens again, we’re telling her and we’ll do it openly in front of you and the rest of the house.” It’s clean, it’s true and it’s putting the onus of bad behavior where it belongs – on Ronnie.
Of course, I’m a middle-aged woman and having the benefit of experience gives me a much different skill-set and perspective than when I was the age of these girls, but still – I think it’s worth sharing, eve though I might be wrong; but I also might be right!
You’re right, Cheez, the best approach is to go to Ronnie first and say, “We’re onto your bullshit,” especially if they consider themselves somewhat friends of his. I am also more disturbed by the way he is treating Sammi than his “cheating,” which seems to be pretty mild if it is just kissing a few girls while under the influence (KUI, you might say.)
What does Sammi think he is doing when he goes to clubs without her?
Bridget: You sound like you need some sleep, girl! Did you hear that Snooki’s new relationship is broken up, at least for now? Angelina claims the guy has asked her out, and is just using Snooki for fame. She also said (truthfully) that he auditioned to be on Jersey Shore! Of course, he says he truly cares for Snooki.
I think, while good points, this is all moot because this show was taped months ago and my friends saw Ronnie and Sammi out together down the shore just 2 weeks ago. So, most likely for whatever drama they (and we) must endure this season, they will ultimately reconcile before/after leaving Miami. (sheesh..aren’t we over them?)
On another note…it is very easy for us to think she should get over him, but have we ever lived with our exes? Someone that we still love? She probably could get over him if she didn’t have to see him for a few months, but in MIA would rather rekindle their ‘flame’ while filming (to keep tabs or a ‘claim’ to him), rather than see him hooking up and bringing other chicks home. Because, I’m sure that would hurt a lot more than him calling her a ‘bitch’ then apologizing 2 hrs later.
“I am also more disturbed by the way he is treating Sammi than his “cheating,” which seems to be pretty mild if it is just kissing a few girls while under the influence (KUI, you might say.)”
Me too @Pixielated. I actually really had a problem with his level of violence last season, he seriously could have killed that guy he knocked out. I was disappointed to see him back this year, and I truly don’t think it’s a matter of IF he hits Sammi, I think it’s a matter of WHEN he does it.
I see him as an abuser, which is why I am even more convinced that the best thing for the girls to do is find a way to keep the lines of communication open with her. She also lost too much weight, which in this case is never a good sign – she’s physically being diminished by this dynamic.
Having been one of those people who lost a friendship as a direct result of putting myself out there and trying to alert this “friend” that her boyfriend was up to no good, I can say this: A true friend will not get mad at you for trying to look out for them. They may be hurt and react harshly (likely a direct result of the information they were just told) as a result of being upset, and usually the anger is misplaced (i.e. towards the well meaning friend as opposed to the cheater/betrayer) but a true friend would never end a friendship over something like you TRYING to avoid seeing them get hurt. My friends (two of my best whom I have been friends with for 26 years, since I was 2, so we have seen each other through a LOT and grown together) all know that, while I may get upset at hearing bad news, as a woman who respects myself and refuses to actively let someone disrespect me, I would definitely prefer knowing over not knowing.
Any “friend” who gets angry with you over trying to be a good friend to them is ridiculous. I would rather have a clean conscience, knowing I did what I could to prevent a fellow human being from hurting (whether it be male or female) than have a “friend” like that in my life who clearly does not value true friendship, and likely would NEVER do much of anything to prevent YOU from being hurt.
Sammi enables, even somewhat encourages Ronnie’s behavior – she may get mad and pouty but really, she doesn’t hold him accountable, he pays no consequences, so really, her happiness is in her own hands, but she chooses to stick with someone who hurts her, demeans her, and clearly does NOT respect her. Not saying I don’t feel badly for her, because I do, as for someone to tolerate that and somewhat think its okay, they have to be seriously damaged.
@Prodigal Cheez “I think what should happen is this: Jennie and Snookie should talk to Ronnie when he’s sober and hold him accountable. They should tell him he’s putting them in a terrible position with Sammi and that it’s unfair, and he either needs to come clean or break it off – that they will not tacitly support his behavior because it’s now becoming a problem for the entire house. Then they should draw the line in the sand, “If it happens again, we’re telling her and we’ll do it openly in front of you and the rest of the house.” It’s clean, it’s true and it’s putting the onus of bad behavior where it belongs – on Ronnie.” – WELL SAID.
Of course Angelina is lying about blacking out. It’s the oldest trick in the book. And trust me, it existed way before reality TV.
I don’t have to back up my statements; this is hardly a thesis defense. If you want further info, google it. Obviously, you found your way here. You can google for things other than mindless entertainment such as this, you know. I don’t care what anyone here thinks (I mean really, we don’t know each other, we’re all simply here because we like the same train wreck show) but I do care about ‘writers’ being accurate with their info. If you have a problem with that, I don’t know what to tell you. And I also don’t feel like taking the time to figure out what to tell you. You should be able to figure it out for yourself.
FIRST you say: (Honey Gangsta)
“Yeah, I don’t buy it. Maybe she’s a little hazy, but totally blacking out is questionable. She would have had a hard time standing upright if she was at blackout capacity. Let alone speaking clearly or actually making contact between her hand and Pauly D’s face.”
THEN:
(Honey Gangsta)
“With the black out thing – I think as most of you realized, my main intention was not to inform about the logistics of blacking out, but to point out that I thought Angelina was faking so she wouldn’t be held responsible. I even said that she may have been a little hazy on what went down, I just didn’t think she blacked out. Obvs, she COULD have, but I doubted it when I was watching. She just seems sneaky.”
Nice try back-pedaling, but it’s still obvious you’re not getting it. Just trying to help you understand your inaccuracies. Clearly from your response, you were offended, and I don’t mind that. I hope it did strike a chord, it will help you keep from looking like a completely uneducated fool in your recaps. I can’t wait to see myself mentioned in the next one.
Please keep writing, I’ll keep reading. You’ll only get better with time, age, experience…and criticism. Learn to take it.
“I don’t care what anyone here thinks (I mean really, we don’t know each other, we’re all simply here because we like the same train wreck show) but I do care about ‘writers’ being accurate with their info.”
Ummm.. If you didn’t care you wouldn’t have posted twice on the same subject in response to other posters and Honey G’s explanation.
I’m not sure where anyone could find factual evidence that would either support or undercut Honey G’s OPINION of the situation. None of us can say for sure what the truth is, but I’ve got some party years under my belt and feel pretty confident that while it’s POSSIBLE Angelina blacked out, it’s pretty unlikely. She’s not exactly a great example of integrity, and she remembered enough to be embarrassed and laying low the next morning.
I think accusing Honey G of looking like an uneducated fool is completely uncalled for. Of course you’re entitled to your opinion, just as I’m entitled to mine – and in my opinion your message gets lost in the execution of your criticism. Coyness aside, your intention is more about attacking the recapper than participating in a lively dialogue about the show, and that’s what I have a problem with.
I’m glad you’re planning to continue to read the recaps; perhaps with some time, age, experience and constructive criticism you will also get better, and begin to understand how to function in a social dynamic respectfully and with a modicum of grace. Most of us here would be happy to help you with that, bless your heart.
Gracr has never been my strong point, I’ll readily admit that, lol! But responding doesn’t mean I care what you think. (Meaning ‘you understood, not you personally!) I just like my opinion to be heard like anyone else. Or, read, in this case. But you missed the same boat as our darling Honey Gangsta. What ‘blacking out’ really is is NOT a matter of opinion. Whether or not Angelina did ‘officially’ black out IS a matter of opinion. You seem cool, Prodigal Cheez, even if you misunderstand my intention. And yes, I do mean that, not that you probably care…or that it matters anyway.
*Ahem*
Gracr= Grace. See? Even I’m not perfect. And what a great mistake to make…do I have comedic timing or what? Nah, probably not. But anyway, now my typo is fixed, so no one needs to pretend that’s the issue and we can move on to the gooooooooood stuff.
@Kabob
Heh I’ve never seen anyone comment on someone’s typo’s.Unless they are funny.You know,like accidently typing “forehead” instead of “forwarned” when discussing Teresa…things like that..
TC,Robin
One time I typed to a friend “Whore are you going?” Thankfully she got that it was a typo right away :-0
TC,Robin
@ Robinez, I am going to “mistakenly” text one of my girlfriend’s that message
Thanks @Kabob, it’s always nice to get a compliment and I do appreciate it. I just get in a lather if I think a recapper is being attacked unfairly – Sometimes I think people don’t realize what a commitment it is for them to write for all of us. I’m good if you are!
I still think Angelina’s full of shit – but I wasn’t there so I’m willing to concede I may be wrong. She’s a mess any way you look at it… LOL.
@Robinez – LOLLOLLOLLOLLOL!!!!
@classy drunk – Me too!! Me too!! LOL!!!
I agree that Angelina is full of shit. What I am saying is absolutely NOT that I think she blacked out. I think she has a very convenient selective memory. She is so the type who, for lack of a better way articulate it about her, blames it on the al-al-al-al-al-al-cohol…
And yes, I did use my finger to count out the ‘als’ and make sure it was accurate, lol.
*to articulate*
LOL
@Robinez, I woke up this morning laughing about your message. Thanks for helping me get my day started.
Lol Robin, that is CLASSIC!!!
@ Robinez, I’m going to use that one as well. Kabob if you troll around the site, you will notice I’m the typo queen. I sneak on from work and can’t resist commenting, end result you need a secret decoder ring to decipher my comments, lets not talk about after the little ones are in bed and its more Grey Goose induced typos:)