Everybody’s Got Something to Hide Except Me and My Monkey

Lost

By EdHIll | Tuesday, January 31, 2006 | 6:33 pm | 66 Comments

lost-01-25-06a.jpgGrowing up, one of my favorite shows was Patrick McGoohan’s The Prisoner. It was an allegorical sixties show where a Bond-like secret agent is captured and sent to a resort-like internment camp called the Village. He is given a number and interrogated by his captors about what he knows, all the time not knowing who they are or what they want. The show was originally designed with a seven episode story arc, but when the networks asked for more episodes so they could market it overseas, they threw together ten more “filler episodes.� Why am I blathering about a 30-year-old British TV show in a Lost recap?

1. Any Lost fan would love The Prisoner (rent the DVD’s. You won’t be disappointed.)

2. This week’s Lost is a perfect example of one of those filler episodes where we spend an hour learning about Charlie’s drug addiction, his brother and his freaky obsession with Claire’s island baby, and not much else.
But first lets hit the net and see whats brewing.

For those who think they know everything there is the daily Lost quiz here.

Some guy cobbled together a complete Lost timeline starting with the birth of Locke’s mother all the way up through last weeks episode here. In his spare time, of which there is apprently an abundance of, he paints Dungeons and Dragons miniatures.

The official website of the creative team behind Lost is called The Fuselage and can be found here.

Not much else going on, but if you hear anyhting drop me a line here and I’ll see if it warrants a mention in my next recap.

The show opens with Charlie dreaming of Christmas Day in England back in that wonderful decade known as the eighties, where Mr. T wandered the land pitying the fools and respecting his momma. Charlie, our lovable Hobbit/heroin junkie is a small child racing downstairs to open his presents. While his brother gets a sweet ass Voltron toy, Charlie can’t find any of his presents. Then his mother tells him that his present is right here, and uncovers a brand new piano just for him. Voltron is still cooler. As he starts to play he turns and looks at his brother who is now the modern day druggie version, who warns him “You can’t save us if you don’t playâ€?. Then we see a flash forward to Charlie playing the piano being berated by his butcher father telling him that music will never get him anywhere. Then his mother and brother both tell Charlie to “save usâ€?. From here we see Charlie playing the piano on the island in the surf. He hears a baby crying and stops. It’s Aaron and he’s stuck inside the piano. Sure, why not. He tries to free him but he can’t and the piano is washed out to sea. Cut to now where Charlie wakes up from his dream. And what a dream it was. It had everything but a backwards speaking midget. Charlie does have more interesting dreams than I do I have to admit. The last dream I had I was chasing Dustin Hoffman for stealing my nacho’s.

Once Charlie wakes up he then runs over to Claire’s tent and when he doesn’t see the baby freaks out screaming at everyone to tell him where the baby is. He then sees that the baby is OK and finally calms down, but not after seeing Locke with her, making Charile irrationally jealous. Charlie is a bit of an odd bird to think that his bizarre dream was actually real. You don’t see me waking up after a dream running down my apartment hallway screaming for Dustin to give me back my nachos. That’s because I am smart enough to realize that something that weird is just a dream, and that even if it wasn’t, I always keep a spare bag of nachos hidden for just such an occasion.

Later Charlie stops by Claire with some fresh “nappiesâ€? which in non sissified America speak means diapers. He’s trying to get back in with Claire but she won’t have anything to do with it. He can’t understand why the lying heroin addict isn’t allowed around her baby. Go figure. When he tells her that he wants things back to the way they were before she cuts him off saying that there is no before, “We were strangers on a plane and we became friends.â€? To that Charlie then says “Now Locke’s your friend, huh?â€? Way to go Charlie. Nothing wins back a girl than paranoid jealousy.

lost-01-25-06e.jpgIn flashback we see Charlie at a maternity ward looking at a baby we soon find out is his brothers. When his sister in law comes up to him wondering where the father is, Charlie says he got delayed. When Charlie goes home to his super hip London apartment he sees his strung out brother sitting in the couch high on heroin. He starts yelling at him telling him that he is a father now and needs to get to the hospital, because he’s acting like a bloody wanker bollocks pisser who done buggered off after being a right gobbin. Bob’s your uncle.

Back on the island Hurley is asking Sawyer questions about the tailies. Libby in particular. Hurley you see has a burning in his loins for Libby. Sawyer picks up on this and starts teasing him. Then he notices that Jack and Ana Lucia are getting all pally wally in the jungle. He tells Kate trying to get a rise out of her but it doesnt get him anywhere.

lost-01-25-06d.jpgCharlie meanwhile is on the beach strumming his guitar when he hears the baby crying again. He looks out and sees that the baby is in its crib being washed out to sea. When he saves the baby and comes back to shore he looks up and sees Claire and his mother dressed and posed like the angels in the Verrocchio painting from his childhood home. They keep telling him that the baby is in danger and he has to save them, then a dove flies from the sky. Hurley comes into frame dressed as a fat John the Baptist asking Charlie what he’s doing. Cut to Charlie and we see its nighttime and he’s on the beach holding the baby. Hurley is asking him what he’s doing with the baby in the middle of the night. Then we hear screaming from the camp as Claire realizes the baby is gone. When she rushes out to grab him from Charlie she slaps him over the face.

The next day on the beach Sawyer and Hurley are playing 21 when Libby comes by getting ready to do laundry. Sawyer tells him to join her saying “I’m sure you’ve got a load you need to drop in.â€? Ejaculation euphamisms on network TV. Nice. When Hurley doesn’t want to, Sawyer then pulls a Cyrano De Bergerac and yells out Libby’s name and makes her think its Hurley. Awww, he’s not just a sarcastic murdering con man, he’s also a good wingman.

Charlie is confronting Locke in the jungle where Locke is no doubt tracking something or methodeically cutting an apple with his bowie knife with one hand or whatever it is Locke’s do. He wants Locke to help him get back in with Claire but Locke just asks him if he’s using again. Charlie insists he isn’t and even tells him that he and Eko destroyed the plane full of drugs. Yet another lie by Charlie, leaving out the part where he has a huge stash of drug filled Mary statues hidden in the jungle. The man is digging quite a grave for himself here. Locke initially believes him and in answer to his question tells him “Trust is a hard thing to win back. Claire needs time. You should leave her and the baby alone for awhile.�

lost-01-25-06b.jpgIn flashback we see Charlie with the other members of his kick ass band Driveshaft sitting in robes on a set. His Brother Liam is purple and obviously strung out. When they take off their robes we see they are in diapers and dressed as babies to do a commercial for “Bubbiesâ€? diapers. I gotta meet the marketing genius who thought this one up. Nothing makes women want to buy diapers more than a strung out has been rock band. It’s probably from the same guy who made Keith Richards the national spokesman for Monistat 7.

The commercial shoot doesn’t go well with Liam so high on heroin that he starts falling over. I’m not sure if he actually shat himself but let us hope he did because it’s the only time he can do it and not worry becuase Bubbies have twice the strength of a normal diaper. When the director calls cut he warns Charlie that he needs to ditch his druggie brother. Charlie refuses and the director fires all of them.

In the hatch Hurley and Libby are washing clothes and Libby asks a question I’ve been wondering for months now. “Is this washer and dryer newer than everything else in here?� Hurley doesn’t care much, unlike me. Libby then starts trying on a shirt and asking him how she looks. Hurley just asks her “Do I know you from somewhere?� Libby says that Hurley stepped on her foot in the plane, but we know that this means in a future Hurley or Libby flashback we will see that they indeed know each other from before. It’s how this show works.

In the woods Eko is marking X’s on a tree, as priests are wont to do. Charlie comes up to him and asks him why. Eko just tells him that “Because these are the ones I like.� Perhaps this has something to do with his big Jesus stick? Charlie asks him if he told Locke about the statue he gave him at the plane. Eko says he doesn’t and then asks if everything’s all right. Charlie then explains his dreams to him and when he does Eko becomes very interested. “Have you ever considered that these dreams mean something?� Eko asks him. What if he really does need to save the baby, he wonders. This is not the smartest thing to tell Charlie because he then goes mental and chases down Claire demanding to see the baby telling them that his dreams mean that he has to baptize Aaron. Charlie truly is a stinkin gobshite nutter. Kate grabs him and tells him to take a hike, and in the background we see Locke watching it all.

After a small vignette of Ana Lucia flirting with jack asking if he was “hitting that� in regards to Kate, we go right to the flashback. Charlie is composing a song on his piano when his brother Liam comes in sobbing. Karen kicked him out because he dropped the baby and his wife was upset acting like a babies skull is somehow magically softer than anyone elses skull. What-ever. When he says they have no money, Charlie tells than that it’s OK because he’s started writing again. Then Charlie sings, or should I say the guy they hired to do Charlie’s singing voice sings, what can charitably be described as a piece of crap song. It makes PoPozao look like a masterpiece. Since Liam is a strung out junkie he thinks its great, but then again he also thinks shitting in your pants is great. . He then smiles and then asks his brother if “he’s got any�.

Cut to present day with Charlie sitting in the woods holding heroin by his heroin filled stump. Locke sneaks up on him and tells him how disappointed he is. He grabs the statues from the tree and tells him that he no longer trusts him. Charlie freaks out and starts ranting again about how he can’t tell Claire or she won’t trust him anymore. That he has to save Aaron.

But he’s not done there. In order to really show what a complete nutcase he is, later that night Charlie lights a fire near the camp in order to draw people away and when they aren’t looking he steals Aaron from his crib racing to the beach screaming about how Aaron needs to be baptized. I believe the clinical term for this behavior is “batshit crazy�.

Cutting to the flashback Charlie comes home to his London flat and sees that his piano is missing. Liam is there packing saying he sold the piano for plane money to Australia so he can be with Megan and the baby. Plane fare from London to Australia from selling a 30 year old crappy piano. Is there anything JetBlue can’t do? Liam leaves Charlie as he asks “What about me?â€?. If this whole thing is supposed to make us sympathetic to Charlie becoming an arsonist/kidnapper, it’s not working.

lost-01-25-06c.jpgBack on the beach Claire sees him stealing Aaron and starts screaming. Charlie is still raving about how he has to baptize the baby. Everyone surrounds him telling him to give her back the baby. When Locke finally takes the baby from him Charlie starts to say something But Locke drops him with three big punches. I cheer, spilling my nachos all over the floor and then quickly surveying the room making sure that bastard Hoffman doesn’t pounce.

The next morning Jack is stitching up Charlie’s face and telling him that he has to promise not to do anything like this again. I say its time for an island jail and stick Charlie in it. If Gilligan can build an entire island car out of bamboo, they can build an island jail. And then get Kate some of those coconut bras. Yeah. Definitely coconut bras.

As the show ends Claire is asking Eko about baptism. Eko asks her if she knows what it is. She says that it’s what gets you into heaven. Eko corrects her by saying “It is said that when John the Baptist baptized Jesus the skies opened up and a dove flew down from the sky. This told John something — that he had cleansed this man of all his sins. That he had freed him. Heaven came much later.â€? Hmmm. A dove eh? Just like in Charlie’s dream! That must mean Aaron is a super baby.

Claire then asks Eko that if Aaron is baptized will that mean she can’t see him in heaven? Eko then says he will baptize them both. So basically Eko just told her that yes, she will go to hell if she’s not baptized. But lets ignore the part about Eko not actually being an ordained priest but a murdering Nigerian warlord. Who the hell is he to talk? Just because you have an epiphany and somehow “feel bad” about all the murdering you did for years doesn’t really make you a priest in any church I know. Except maybe Scientology.

lost-01-25-06f.jpg

Well that was it. I have to admit not much happened, but you get used to that in the world of Lost. I personally am glad that Charlie is an outcast now. Last season when he killed Ethan in cold blood I knew he was insane, yet no one seemed to notice. That and he’s British. You just can’t trust them British. They talk funny.

About

66 Comments

  1. 1
    dumbanddumber
    Posted January 31, 2006 at 6:38 pm

    Good recap. It was a pretty boring episode, and Charlie is the Worst Character Ever. But how could you forget to mention what has to be the best scene in the history of Lost? I’m speaking, of course, of Locke kicking the crap out of Charlie on the beach!!! Must have watched that one 50 times…

  2. 2
    EdHill
    Posted January 31, 2006 at 6:52 pm

    My bad. A paragraph went missing due to some HTML mixup. its fixed.

  3. 3
    meagster315
    Posted January 31, 2006 at 6:59 pm

    ummm you kinda neglected the whole

    LOCKE IS FRAKING EVIL!!! plot

    what was up with him keeping the stautes
    and the violins sounded like they were aobut to pop a string when locke was watching claire, kate, and charlie on the beach

    WHAT THE HELL!!!

    other than that great recap

  4. 4
    Leah3t
    Posted January 31, 2006 at 7:28 pm

    I rarely say this but I really was bored with this episode. I do like Charlie’s character when he’s interacting with other characters, but his back story is always dull. I also hope the show backs off from the religious symbols a bit.

  5. 5
    ceenee
    Posted January 31, 2006 at 7:41 pm

    “He starts yelling at him, telling him that he is a father now and needs to get to the hospital, because he’s acting like a bloody wanker bollocks pisser who done buggered off after being a right gobbin.”

    LoveitLoveitLoveit!!! (kicking leg in the air)

  6. 6
    zoobabe
    Posted January 31, 2006 at 8:25 pm

    I love Charlie. Even if he was acting like a wanker in the past episode.

  7. 7
    lurkertype
    Posted January 31, 2006 at 9:02 pm

    This was indeed a boring ep. I want to know about the washer/dryer too!

    Wonder why Libby’s lying to Hurley? He couldn’t have stepped on her foot boarding the plane since he was in the front and he was in the back.

    And for like the bazillionth time, I ask, will someone give the damn heroin to Jack?! You know, the doctor/surgeon who could use a good strong painkiller in his work? Poor dead Boone coulda used a chunk of that in his last hours.

    And what ceenee said.

  8. 8
    lurkertype
    Posted January 31, 2006 at 9:27 pm

    Gak. “she was in the back”, of course.

    And everyone should watch The Prisoner.

  9. 9
    cris
    Posted January 31, 2006 at 9:53 pm

    did anyone else start to get the feeling that locke could be another spy?

    i can’t remember any flashbacks of him on the plane or in the airport, my memory could just be failing me though.

    he was just creepy, i agree with meagster, he was evil looking

  10. 10
    Jeebo
    Posted January 31, 2006 at 10:43 pm

    cris, Locke is creepy but he was definitely on the plane, in season 1′s flashbacks of the crash you can see Locke sitting in one of the seats. also, did anyone notice the stuffed animals in the commercial crib…polar bears.

  11. 11
    Zharak
    Posted January 31, 2006 at 10:48 pm

    There were tons of Locke airplane flashbacks. At the top of my head right now… the one where he gets carried to his seat by a flight attendant because they don’t have any wheelchair on hand.

    Maybe Libby though?

    I wish they off Charlie next season, well him or Claire since they both suck.

  12. 12
    Victoria
    Posted January 31, 2006 at 10:56 pm

    Isn’t this the episode where Locke is keeping the stash of guns at the end with all the heroin? The previews led me to believe he hid them somewhere other than the safe they were in before. Locke is seeming pretty evil right now. I agree with #3. Maybe Charlie has the “sickness” that led Rousseau to kill all her people. He swears he isn’t using, and I actually believe him.

  13. 13
    ATCmurph
    Posted January 31, 2006 at 11:11 pm

    Now, I’m not terribly religious, but I just can’t get over Eko pretending to be a priest and baptizing Claire and Aaron. I mean, where does he get off? Does he fancy himself so spiritual now that he has the ability to send people to heaven?

    I think there is a lot more to Locke than meets the eye…he seems more menacing now, and there has to be a reason he got the use of his legs back.

    The previews showed Aaron getting stolen, which we all know was only Charlie’s dream…I was hoping it would happen, just to add a new interesting twist. I’m sure it’s bound to happen at some point.

  14. 14
    sg-dub
    Posted January 31, 2006 at 11:21 pm

    My baby is cuter.

  15. 15
    Victoria
    Posted January 31, 2006 at 11:28 pm

    I don’t know how much time passed between Eko’s brother being killed and the present, but I’m thinking it must be at least 10 years or so. That would give him plenty of time to become a real priest.

  16. 16
    zoobabe
    Posted January 31, 2006 at 11:31 pm

    Good one sg-dub!

    I don’t think that there’s anything wrong with Mr. Eko baptizing Claire and Aaron. Technically- he IS a priest. Even if the papers were signed under a false pretense, he has had a spiritual awakening and now sees himself in that role. Why does it matter what he did in his past? He’s on a freaking island in the middle of nowhere with no hope of rescue. Why shouldn’t he be the man he WISHES he was instead of the man he wants to forget? Why shouldn’t they all?

  17. 17
    Diana
    Posted January 31, 2006 at 11:57 pm

    BOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGG! Yawn. Writers of LOST, get back on track please. No more throwaway episodes please.

  18. 18
    ToddHzlqst
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 12:36 am

    Regretfully, I’m sure there will be a lot ore “throwaway” episodes like this last one…if anything, just to keep the series going.

    I agree, Locke is acting stranger and is becoming more “attentive” with the baby. Paternal instinct or more sinister motives? His tagging up Charlie was fun to watch though.

    Libby might have been a stewardess which still doesn’t exclude her from being the/a spy. She has a “stewardess qualty” to her.

    Ana’s “hitting it” line was funny but only because I’m surprised more of them aren’t doing it like rabbits and walking around with more smiles on their faces.

  19. 19
    USNRNPage
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 12:44 am

    Yes, very boring episode.

    Thanks for sharing your dream. Now I want nachos. Although, I picture Hoffman more likely stealing someones greasy chili dog.

    I remember as a kid, my brother waking up the entire house screaming “Give Gilligan a pie, give Gilligan a pie”! while in his sleep.
    Still makes me laugh even now.

    Thanks for the LOST links Edhill. You did not have much to work with, but great recap all the same.

  20. 20
    Aries
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 3:20 am

    Granted not much happened during this episode but I’m just glad it didn’t spend too much time on the tailies. 2 or 3 minutes of Ana Lucia is about all I can take.

  21. 21
    Bobbie
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 4:15 am

    CINDY was the stewardess; Libby is a (psychological) counselor.

    Redemption , people. Eko is intensely spiritual, as evidenced by his 40 days’ purgative silence in the wilderness. Remember, too, that his first “crime,” killing the old man as a child, was done to spare his baby brother having to do it or die. A self-sacrifice, if you will; martyrdom to an unjust cause but for a highly moral purpose. Thereafter, we know the guy has a rep, but do we actually SEE him do anything more heinous than ensure his people, and his brother, do as well as they can under rotten circumstances? Oh, and wreak heavy vengeance on a couple of freak-show baddies…

    And sg-dub, of course your baby is cuter! It goes without mentioning!

  22. 22
    Tony A.
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 5:19 am

    Edhill, your recall is amazing. LOST is exactly like The Prisoner, with the writers shooting the breeze and saying things like “Hey, how about if we have an episode with so-and-so being part of a cult and manages to escape and go to Australia and change his/her name and…” I’ve always had the feeling this show was intended to be a quickie series and, we Americans being so whimsical, it became a hit! Can you imagine all those guys going “Holy shit, what do we do now?” And the madcap jokester in the group sketches out an episode and they pass the bottle around and…well, you see where I’m going with this. Nothing will ever be resolved. Another show you can liken this to is “Land of the Giants”. Remember that turkey?

    Anyhoo, about the most frustrating part of “Lost” is the way things just seem to plod along even though there are looming crises all over the place. For instance, they were so busy fleshing out loony wanker Charlie that several issues were left aside, such as WHERE THE HELL IS MICHAEL? And just how many guns can they afford to lose? And why were there so many guns in the bunker?

    One last thing. What produces electricity in the bunker? If it’s a generator, obviously it has to vent out, so the noise would be heard for quite a distance. And if the Others were originally with Darma, then howcum they don’t use the bunkers still?

  23. 23
    TinkerbellAPixie
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 5:48 am

    #10 – It’s people like you that make me keep Lost on my dvr until I read all the comments – so I can run back and look. Thanks for pointing out the polar bears!

    I think Hurly knows Libby from the mental ward where he was a patient – I have a hunch that she was a psychiatrist there but is covering now. I think she might be an Other – and might have been there to find Hurley’s buddy who was always reciting the numbers. Then again – I am wayyyy too deep into reading too much into things. Gosh I love the addiction that is Lost – can I wrap it up in a statue of the Virgin and carry it around with me?

  24. 24
    wendylooho
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 6:12 am

    lurkertype- I think that Hurley might know Libby from the mental hospital. I am believe tonight’s episode has those flash backs.

    General Question… about Charlie’s previous flashbacks. Didn’t he want to be a priest or some other religious person before his druggie brother convinced him to be in the rock band?

  25. 25
    ruplub
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 6:35 am

    Tonight’s Lost is supposed to be the Hurley episode “Numbers” repeat from last season ;-(

  26. 26
    hardly@work
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 6:38 am

    right before the dove flies out in charlie’s dream a plane goes down in the background, you could hear it on regular tv, but can only really see it on hdtv, if anyone cares i’ll look up the links to the screenshot

    from what i hear on the boards, libby is a ———- —-. i don’t know if i can post what i’ve been hearing because someone might freak out about it being a spoiler, not that i know

    anyway she was definitely on the plane, i remember seeing her wash up on shore

    tonigh tis a rerun of hurley’s episode numbers, there must be a good reason why they are showing a season 1 episode again

    i think charlie has the sickness, remember danielle telling sayid to watch all his friends closely, i assume because her crew started flipping out like charlie

    i think locke is the key to this whole thing, what the thing is, i have no idea

    sorry that was a long post, but i’ve been waiting a week to get this out

  27. 27
    cris
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 6:50 am

    since they are running Hurley’s episode i again, i wonder if we will see Libby at the mental ward… since a lot of people think that’s where she’s from… i’ll be sure to watch the background this time

  28. 28
    Leah3t
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 6:58 am

    hardly@work- good tip on the plane crashing. i will have to re-watch.

    I don’t have a problem with Eko baptising the kid, John the Baptist wasn’t a priest and it’s not like St. Agnes’ is around the corner from the caves. But like I said, the problem with working religion into a show means everyone has ten million interpretations that we could sit and debate about all day, which im not opposed to, but that’s been done on tv with a million other shows.

  29. 29
    DelRay
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 6:59 am

    I think they’re showing numbers because Rousseau is coming back for sweeps. Should be a good couple of episodes!

  30. 30
    Craig C
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 7:22 am

    Lost is definitely in a 2nd season lull.

    The Prisoner beats Lost like a red-headed step child.

  31. 31
    megan
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 7:38 am

    There was at least a 3 year time gap between the time Ecko’s brother was killed and when they landed on the island. Plenty of time for Ecko to actually become a Priest.

    The whole baptizing thing makes me wonder if this is a large foreshadowing that Claire might die by the end of the season. Now that they are both baptized, they will see each other in heaven, so they can kill her off (!!!). But then again, the psychic told Claire that she was the only one able to raise the baby(from season 1). And they wouldn’t have shoved that into an episode if it wasn’t relevant. At least I hope.

  32. 32
    susanarosa
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 8:03 am

    Anyone who is baptised can baptise others. This is typically only done if ones life is in danger.

  33. 33
    littledarling
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 8:13 am

    Funny Funny Recap! Much more interesting than the actual episode. Me no likey the filler episodes.
    Also anyone already baptized can perform a baptism in an emergency situation. (I checked with my former-priest Dad on that one.)
    I agree with post #4, love charlie as a side character but his back stories suck!

  34. 34
    erms
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 8:17 am

    This recap was better than the episode itself. Holler to EdHill.

    No one cares about Drive Shaft! Charlie is wack!I was hoping the Others would actually come and take the damn baby, but it was just Charlie and EviLocke at it again.

    To add to the craziness that is Lost… it is obvious the Front of the plane people are all evil/bad because the Others have yet to attack and take them away yet (as compared to the rear of the plane). I say this because of the convo the Spy said to AnaLucia at the top of the mountain right before she Lucia-ed his ass. Anyways, thats it.

    Hopefully next week’s new episode will be good.

  35. 35
    Tracie
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 8:35 am

    1) “Charlie is a bit of an odd bird to think that his bizarre dream was actually real.”

    Hello? This is Craphole Island, anything is possible! But he should’ve gone to Jack or Libby with his dream interpretations.

    2) EdHill – Liam went to Australia to be with Karen and the baby (Meghan). Sorry for picking nits, but I just thought you should know.

    3) I had some issues with the whole baptism thing, but that is a looooong post I’m not going to put yall through.

    Looking forward to the next new episode, which is Sawyer-centric.

  36. 36
    CB
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 9:02 am

    I foudn this on teh Fuselage site…”Has Anyone noticed that the lotto girl and Sawyer’s one night stand is also the girl in the pic with desmond ?” Does anyone know if that is true or not? I guess it could make sense..Where the hell is Desmond anyway?

    Libby said she was a clinical psychologist, so either she worked at the mental facility that Hurley was in or she was in the facility for some reason…DId we ever really find out why Hurley was there in the first place?? I cant remember…

  37. 37
    bluebell
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 9:46 am

    I don’t understand why everyone is always hating on Charlie. What bugs me is how conveniently Claire has forgotten all of the things he did for her in the past . . . saved her baby from the crazy French chick, almost got himself killed in the process, stuck by her when no one would talk to her. Doesn’t he deserve a minute of her time to explain his dream? Granted, Charlie is acting crazy, but still, Claire could listen to the guy. Also, did you notice that in Charlie’s flashback, his mother told him that he was “special.” Sound familiar to anyone? And now, Charlie is having these quite vivid dreams which are obviously a sign of possible things to come. Locke is definitely turning evil (if he wasn’t already). Has anyone thought that Locke slipped Charlie some of that goop he gave to Boone to make him hallucinate, just to make Charlie look crazy to Claire? I think he has plans for the baby.

  38. 38
    Zharak
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 9:49 am

    If they really want to put in more episodes as “fillers”, they should focus the backstory on interesting people like Sayid and Locke, and not Charlie and Claire. Who says they have to equally spend time on everyone’s past anyway?

  39. 39
    mistichristi
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 9:51 am

    sg-dub, you are funny! What a proud papa you are! Congrats! Lost isn’t as good this season. Sorry, This isnt the first boring ep…………..

  40. 40
    hardly@work
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 9:53 am

    i think they are spending time on everyone to show us how they are all connected prior to the crash

    libby lied about hurley stepping on her on the plane, if she lied about this what else has she made up?

    michael is married to lotto girl in real life

    haven’t heard that about lotto girl/desmonds lady, but saw where someone compared the lady trying to adopt claire’s baby and the desmond chicl and they look pretty similar, can’t remember what forum this was at, sorry

  41. 41
    CB
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 10:10 am

    Hardly@work, I saw that comparison as well, but I dont remember what the lady looked like that wanted to adopt Aaron. Is there a link to see a pic? Anyone?

    Yes Charlie did a lot of things for Claire in the past, but lies and drug use can quickly erase those things. Trust is a huge thing and when its lost its very hard to regain. I dont blame Claire for wanting Charlie to give her some space, hes starting to freak me out and I dont have to live on an island with him…
    When he starts getting all crazy, dont you think it would be hard to not question whether or not he was using again?
    Charlie really pissed me off in a past episode when he was complaing to Locke about how much Claire had to learn about being a mum. Locke was right when he said “thats interesting coming from a drug addict”. Hes just irritating!!!

    I didnt think about the whole “special” thing. Good call, but I havent really seen anything to make him appear “special” in any extraordinary way. His dreams are vivid, yes but he’s just acting all crazy…

  42. 42
    dumbanddumber
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 10:23 am

    I can’t stand Charlie as a character; he doesn’t seem to do a whole lot except be annoying. But I think that bluebell has a point that maybe the other characters should have a little bit of understanding. I mean, Charlie went off after Danielle and Aaron … in the show’s timeline, that was what? A week ago? And Claire was having nightmares about the baby being in danger that came true … that was three weeks ago, maybe? Is it that unrealistic to think that there may be something to the dreams?

    All that being said, I laugh myself to sleep at night thinking about that can of whoopass that Locke delivered…

  43. 43
    susanarosa
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 10:30 am

    I think Libby is after Hurley because she knows he’s a millionaire.

  44. 44
    MrsC
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 10:57 am

    Locke is great!

    I think they are setting up the next Island Romance to be Claire and Locke. He made the cradle and makes her feel safe. A woman needs a manly man on an island, not some wanker like Charlie.

  45. 45
    ceenee
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 11:01 am

    #44: ugh, you just made me throw up in my mouth a little…

  46. 46
    hardly@work
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 11:30 am

    this is a link to pictures of boat woman/ desmond’s woman

    they look pretty similar..so do you think boat woman is karen degroot and desmond’s lady?

    http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desmondsgirlothers8vo.jpg

    still looking for a pic of the lady that weanted to adopt claire’s baby

  47. 47
    CB
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 12:01 pm

    Hard to say, but dont you think that Desmond woul dhave mentioned something? Unless of course he didnt know and maybe she is the reason he landed on the island…They definitly look similar, although she didnt age quite as well as desmond did… :o )

    Yeah #44, Ewww. I had heard somehting about maybe Eko and Claire hooking up…

  48. 48
    subgenre
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 12:14 pm

    American TV sucks! This episode is proof positive of that. Successful series are seen as money making products that should endure as long as they are profitable. Unfortunatley, the story is compromised as the producers s-t-r-e-t-c-h the plot to near breaking point to make the series last longer. If only American TV producers could allow for a series to tell a story and not force it to air interminably. I think “Lost” has so much potential, but these filler episodes are super annoying. Also, I think that the writers, who are surprised by the show’s success and now trying to ride that wave for as long as they can, do not have a focused idea to WHERE the show is going or WHY. Example: the deaths of Shannon and Boone. Why were they even characters on the show if they are now no longer part of it?

    I think all the conspiracy theorizing by fans is fun, but who will give a shit in 3 years if this show keeps plodding along? It’s a shame.

    I applaud EdHill for his HILARious recaps. Fortunately, I missed this ep, but I get to read all the important bits here along with all of Ed’s awesome insights and fabulous jokes. Bravo, EdHill, Bravo!!!

    BTW, I am an American, just so you all know that I criticize my country’s TV with the righteous heart of a true patriot.

  49. 49
    Victoria
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 12:27 pm

    I agree with Todd about more people hooking up. But Claire and Eko? Claire and Locke?! Not even on a desert island…#44-I think you are getting the island sickness.

  50. 50
    CB
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 12:54 pm

    They really havent been on the island all that long. Almost 2 months. I agree that there shoudl be a bit more hooking up, but then they would have to address the whole pregnancy issue. Im sure if anyone on the island was on Birth control pills they didnt have a huge supply, same with COndoms. I find it hard to believe that they would be taking temps to see when ovulation was occuring so they could have “safe” sex.

  51. 51
    CB
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 12:56 pm

    but then again, this is a TV show, I guess this issue can be overlooked just like the hairy armpit and leg situation. No big deal,. its not exactly suppose to be completely realistic…

  52. 52
    sweetjane
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 12:59 pm

    must control self. nope- not going to happen.
    this episode was RANK. i hated it for multiple reasons. 1- made me actually afraid of charlie. 2- the whole baptism was just wrong. so let’s look at that. point 1- it isn’t baptism that gets you into heaven. it’s accepting that you are a sinner and believing that jesus is your lord and savior. point 2 (and this is a BIG one)- when john the baptist baptised jesus, he didn’t cleanse him of his sins. jesus never committed a sin. he was sinless. so from a religious standpoint, i was highly offended.
    plus, the epi just kind of sucked overall.

  53. 53
    james_woods_rules
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 2:32 pm

    #46- Hardly@….

    I have to agree-that is def the same chick. The eyebrows give it away. She’s lookin a bit rough on the boat, but it’s def the same woman.

    #52-
    I bet Jesus committed a few sins when he was a teenager, man. There’s nothing in the bible about him and his formative young boy and teen years. Isn’t that the whole point of God using a human being as his son? To prove that all humans sin, but if you accept the Jesus (a once sinful human), you will be saved, because he was saved, then died for our sins yeah????

    Don’t be offended, be open minded.

  54. 54
    ceenee
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 2:38 pm

    I realize that a GIANT Lost theme is “faith vs. science/reason”, but I do wish they would have kept “religion” out of it.

    It made me uncomfortable that people made Claire feel that she was not doing right by herself and her son by continuing to be un-baptized.

    (I am Jewish, and yes, I would have felt exact the same way had someone determined that Aaron must be circumcised, or Claire must cleanse herself in a mikvah after having given birth and after every period.)

    I’m just saying that it would have been cool to for Charlie and Eko to educate Claire on different beliefs re: heaven and redemption, but give her a choice of whether she agrees or not.

    *usually I like to joke around here, the little bit that I participate, but I just had to get this one off my chest*

  55. 55
    sweepea
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 2:41 pm

    I consider myself a religious/spiritual person, but I’m still surprised by the strong religious “messages” they seem to be putting in here. Hope it doesn’t alienate the audience too much. And I agree with EdHill… Eko’s not much of a priest.

  56. 56
    Leah3t
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 3:08 pm

    ceenee- i totally agree. it just seemed like such a pat traditional anwswer for a show that is supposed to be so out of the box. and a pretty one dimensional approach from mr eko who is supposed to be complex.

    sweetpea- same. i’m a practicing protestant so m not like, offended by it but i just hope it won’t turn viewers away or turn away from the other cool story lines.

    james wood rules- the thing is that if eko was a priest he’d be a priest of a religion that teaches that JEsus was sinless. So it’s not a lack of openmindedness, its that Eko’s theology doesn’t match up.

  57. 57
    james_woods_rules
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 4:34 pm

    I hear ya Leah3t.

    Good thought on the Eko thing…..

  58. 58
    itsthecheese
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 9:45 pm

    When Hurley was at the nurses station, trying to see his friend, he was recognized by a doctor… if you look closely this is “Marvin” of the Dharma Project video – am I the only one who recognizes the same voice…and the same eye that is larger than the other?

  59. 59
    TinkerbellAPixie
    Posted February 2, 2006 at 5:12 am

    Ok – based on post #58 I did some research on a site that had episode guides and cast lists:
    http://www.tv.com/lost/show/24313/episode_guide.html

    The Lotto Girl in ‘Numbers’ Episode #18 was BrittanY Perineau. She is not listed on the the episode with Sawyer’s Back story ‘Confidence Man’ #8, she’s also not in the cast for Claire’s backstory ep ‘Raised by Another’ #10 and lastly she is not in the cast list for the episode where Walt was pulled off the raft ‘Exodus (2)” #24.

    BUT, she is listed on Kate’s backstory episode ‘Outlaws’ #16 as (Woman) and she is in ‘Everybody Hates Hugo’ #28 as (Mary Jo).

    The actor who played the doc in last nights ‘Numbers’ #18 was Dann Seki, the actor who played Dr. Marvin Candle in the info film in ‘Orientation’ #27 was Francois Chau. So those two were definitely different.

    This proves that the two docs were different. As for this Brittany Perineau chick – maybe it means nothing that she keeps showing up – maybe they have limited extras in Hawaii OR maybe there is some cool reason she keeps popping up.

    OH, and this also proves I really ought to look into getting a boyfriend or dog to occupy my time so I don’t obsess over Lost so much.

  60. 60
    Tracie
    Posted February 2, 2006 at 7:34 am

    Tinkerbell, I have a husband and a kitty and I still obsess over the details in LOST.

    Maybe, as far as casting goes, they recasted Candle’s actor? Just a thought.

    Sweetjane – I’m with ya on the weird baptism stuff.

  61. 61
    Leah3t
    Posted February 2, 2006 at 7:35 am

    james_woods_rules- then again, when you’re a self made priest, who knows what Eko’s theology is supposed to be? DIY clergy….. myabe we could be tvgasm oracles ourselves.

  62. 62
    hardly@work
    Posted February 2, 2006 at 8:25 am

    tinkerbell-
    in outlaws it does show a woman getting out of/ or in bed with sawyer,before he ran into jack’s dad at the bar

    i don’t remember her in everybody hates hugo…do you?

    why lotto girl was in bed with sawyer in australia, i haven’t a clue

    i didn’t really pick up on anything from the repaly of numbers

  63. 63
    ToddHzlqst
    Posted February 2, 2006 at 10:21 am

    Claire & Locke romantically…a little of my breakfast just came back to visit me! Perhaps he just sees the whole scheme of things and realizes that her baby is/will play into any further “interactions” with the Others.

    Where is Michael? The bad man just said, “he’d never find Walt!”. Is he still out in the jungle roaming, is he dead, is he captured?

    If we can wrap out brains around ANY theory about the island, why can’t we believe that there may have been one or more “Others” on the plane? People survived and didn’t for a reason. This IS (Science) Fiction SO anything is plausable.

  64. 64
    jontarbox
    Posted February 3, 2006 at 6:30 am

    Tinkerbell,Brittany Perrineau is Harold Perrineau’s (Michael’s) real life wife,thats why she keeps showing up

  65. 65
    ProphetOfRage
    Posted February 4, 2006 at 12:30 pm

    any1 heard anything about this oceanic air flight 213?
    it “leaves”, coincidently enough, on february 13 (2/13).
    there are vague clues here…

    http://oceanicworldair.com/alexcode/

    the pics are all jpegs titled alex1, alex2 & alex3.

    then this …

    http://oceanicworldair.com

    … has even more info with some crazy links (click on 3 separate parts of the word “careers”; top left corner of “web-cam” pic; 108 countdown/execute button under “contact us”)

    also this…

    http://oceanicworldairlines.com

    connecting the others (& possibly the peace corps?) to oceanic air.
    (check the picture behind the tyc text… same as oceanic air logo)

    there are no terms of service, so i guess it could be all b.s.
    even if it is, it’s still kinda cool.
    & after a boring-ass episode this past week it’s good to get worked up again for lost.

    see ya on flight 213.
    do ya think we’re going down, too?

  66. 66
    ceenee
    Posted February 5, 2006 at 6:26 pm

    I loved the “Addicted to Lost” promo on Superbowl Sunday

Post a Comment

Your email is never published nor shared. Required fields are marked *

*
*

You may use these HTML tags and attributes: <a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <cite> <code> <del datetime=""> <em> <i> <q cite=""> <strike> <strong>

Human Verification: In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.