Recap: The Needs Of The Mommy Outweigh The Needs Of The Son.

Lost

By GreyBishop | | 3:32 pm | 33 Comments

hurley030107First and foremost, before we delve into the nuts and bolts of this week’s episode, let’s take a moment.
A moment to bask in the glory of a return to the Lost we all know and love, led by the most lovable of the castaways.
Hear that? That’s laughter. Out loud, sincere, laughter.
Nobody is forgetting that they’re trapped on an island full of danger and mystery. We laugh despite those looming dangers and perhaps because of it.
With just the right mix of humour and pathos, Hurley once again comes through and restores our faith in the show.
Sure, no great mysteries were solved, no Doctors were rescued, and no one (well, almost no one) had any sex, but this episode had more heart than the first nine episodes of the season combined.
On top of heart, there was Vincent, beer, Cheech, a solid gold Jesus, a headless Workman and Mr. Cluck’s was leveled by a meteor. What more could you ask for in a tv show?
Ahhh, that’s some good basking.
A very young Hugo Reyes hauls his Dad’s tools out to the driveway where a Camaro waits for some attention. After popping the hood, his Dad appears and with some gentle coaxing, gets Hugo behind the wheel. Hugo doesn’t think that they can get the car started without the new carburetor, but his Dad thinks that if he has enough hope, it will start. He’s trying to teach the boy that having hope is never stupid and everyone makes their own luck in life. That doesn’t get the car started, but it sure sounds Fatherly.
Speaking of luck, Dad’s off to Vegas, where he’s got some work.
With a “Glacier” bar, some fatherly advice to “live a little” and a promise that they’re only postponing their Grand Canyon road trip, he’s on his bike and gone.

Cut to Hurley pouring his heart out at Libby’s grave. He’s telling her about recent events and admitting that he is as frightened as the rest of the survivors. And that he misses her. While this was once again a touching and genuine moment for the big guy, for a minute, it seemed like he might have been talking to his old buddy Dave, but no such luck.

You remember Dave, don’t you? Dave was that possibly imaginary guy in the hospital who used to try to get Hurley to eat things that would make him fat. Cheech Marin’s character is credited as “David Reyes” and Hurley obviously has chocolate abandonment issues. Coincidence? In this show? I’d say that the odds are about as good as being hit by a meteor…

After his chat with Libby, Hurley seeks out more lively conversation. He and Charlie have a chat about Charlie’s impending doom and the big man confides that he thinks he’s cursed.
“Death finds me, dude.”
Just then, Vincent bounds out of the jungle.

Those Lost writers. So subtle.

Vincent’s got something in his mouth. It’s an arm. Carrying a rabbit’s foot. The rabbit’s foot is a keychain, with a key.

Hurley figures that they should get it from the dog. Charlie is less than convinced.

“Yeah. Chase the dog with the skeletal arm into the creepy jungle. You be my guest.”

Hurley chases the dog through the creepy jungle, all the way to an overturned Micro Bus. “Awesome.”

In front of Mr. Cluck’s, Hurley is being interviewed about his lottery win and buying the chicken shack. When he starts detailing some of the bad things that have happened to him since he won the money, Tricia Tanaka calls for a cut. She wants a puff piece, not a heavy interview. She asks Hurley’s permission to go into the restaurant to shoot some b shots and Randy, Hurley’s former boss, tells her to go ahead. He knows that Hurley is superstitious about the public going in before the ribbon cutting, but everything is off and they don’t start cooking until tomorrow, so what could happen?

Well…

Sounding remarkably like flight 815 as it fell out of the sky over the Pacific, a meteor streaks down from the heavens and slams into the chicken shack.

That’s ONE.

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As they panned over the wreckage of the store, I was struck by how airplane-like the burning restaurant looked. Coincidence? In this show?

Hurley runs back to the camp and tries to recruit some help in his new automotive venture. No one is really interested in starting a car. Paulo asks one of two very important questions. Why would they want to start a car? He gets points for this in my book. He also gets points for pulling Darling Nikki back to the kitchen by her daisy dukes.

No one asks where the HELL a car would come from or why it would be out in the jungle on a tropical island with no roads. Obviously, the group has stopped questioning the odd things that crop up around them almost daily. Couple that with an apparent lack of enthusiasm for rescue and I’m really starting to wonder what’s in the Dharma Oat Bars besides fiber-ee goodness.

Kate and Sawyer are making their way back to camp when Sawyer steps on what looks like a pub dart. Now, if only they could find some beer…

Kate suggests that Sawyer need only say he’s sorry and the two of them can start fresh, with a clean slate.

“A clean slate? Like on ‘Little House’?”

Kate seems confused by his reference to “Little House”. As he explains that he meant “Little House on the Prairie” she mocks him, saying “You call it ‘Little House’?” Now, I never watched the show, but even I knew what he was referring to. Coming as it did on the heels of last week’s “Brady Bunch” reference that went over Karl’s head, we are left wondering just a wee bit more about Kate. It certainly seemed like she had NO idea what “Little House” was, which for a girl her age seems awfully strange.

When he refuses to apologize for whatever it is that she’s seeking an apology for, she stops calling him “James” and welcome’s Sawyer home. I can’t help thinking that James missed a crucial opportunity in that moment. For all his con-man skills, he sure has a hard time with Kate.

There is a joyous reunion on the beach when the two finally arrive at the camp. It’s happy smiles all around as they are welcomed back to the beach of doom. Heck, Sawyer gets an almost hug from Locke for cryin’ out loud!

Hurley comes home to his upscale estate and tells his Mom all about how Tricia Tanaka and her camera dude and Mr. Clucks all got hit by a meteor. When he tells her that it’s because of the money and the curse, she slaps him. Hard.

“Ow!”

That’s TWO.

To prove that he’s not cursed, his Mom takes him by the hand to show him something. It’s his Dad. Returned after 17 years.

“Your Mom wasn’t kidding about those candy bars.”

That’s THREE.

Hurley and Jin are examining the wrecked Micro Bus and it’s occupant, Roger. When they open the back they find it full of beer.

“Dude. Roger was on a beer run.”

Jin tries to explain to Hurley what he intends to do, using primitive sign language.

“Ah man, I suck at charades. You wanna what?”

That’s FOUR.

When the two men try to hoist Roger’s desiccated corpse from the van, his head gets caught in the door frame and snaps off. Holding the headless body, Hurley tells Jin, “We’ll get that later.”

That’s FIVE.

As Charlie and Desmond discuss the finer points of precognition, Sawyer storms up in search of his missing stash. When he lists off the items that are missing, the bottle of scotch comes up and Desmond gallantly offers his apologies. He explains that there were three of them that night.

“You, the munchkin and who else?” Hobbit. Not Munchkin, Hobbit. HAW-BIT. Say it with me now.

The third scotch thief was, of course, brotha Hurley, who is getting the Micro Bus back on it’s feet with Jin’s help. In return, he’s teaching Jin about English. Pretty much the blind leading the blind in this case.

When Sawyer comes looking for some retribution, instead of his scotch he gets a big, sweaty man hug from Mr. Reyes. Jin puts in a “Good see you” hug for good measure.

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“Somebody’s hooked on phonics.” Sawyer’s form seems no worse for bear…

When Sawyer learns that Hurley not only doesn’t plan to give his stuff back but also intends to draft Sawyer into helping him fix the car, he asks why he would do that.

“Cuz, there’s beer.”

That’s SIX.

Hurley has a new, positive outlook on life, thanks to what he sees as signs of good things to come: Sawyer’s and Kate’s return, the car, all point to things starting to get better for them. He figures it’ll all be ok.

Saayid and Locke aren’t so sure. They’re questioning Kate about her escape, wondering why Jack told her not to come back. She explains about his sacrifice, the other island, the zoo, the boats and Karl. Then she heads off to find some help to get Jack back.

The Reyes family is sitting down to a dinner of burgers, fries and lasagna (finally, something other than taco night for my Wednesday night pre-Lost meal!) and Hugo’s Mom is telling the Prodigal Father about the solid gold Jesus and the butlers that the lottery money has allowed Hugo to procure for her. Despite the tasty lasagna and burger combo, Hugo seems pensive. When the Prodigal Pop asks what’s wrong, Hugo says what we’ve all been thinking. It’s just a tad suspicious that Dear Old Dad happens to return to his family shortly after a huge lottery win. Dad claims that he’s back because Hugo’s Mom called to tell him that his son was in trouble. She didn’t know how else to handle her son’s obsession with the lottery numbers and curses. Hugo figures that the only reason his Dad came back was for the money, but Hugo plans to divest himself of the funds. He fires the butlers Tran with a hefty severance in cash and tells his parents that he plans to get rid of the money, the houses and the livestock (The livestock???) and he’s starting with his Father.

Mrs. Reyes doesn’t want Mr. Reyes to leave. She has needs. Sure, cover up Jesus’s ears, but not Hurley’s. No wonder the big man was in therapy. For that matter, I wish I’d covered mine…

She suggests that Hurley show his Father what he has in the garage. It’s the Camaro. Still on blocks, still in need of a new carburetor.

Back in the jungle, Hurley, Jin and Sawyer manage to flip the Mystery Machine back onto it’s wheels. Sawyer immediately sets to scavenging, while Hurley and Jin check out the engine. Sawyer finds a map, some beer and a head.

“Oh, that’s just Roger.”

That’s SEVEN.

Despite Jin’s protest, Hurley tries to start the bus. He has hope. He believes that it will work. He has a dead battery and no amount of hope is about to start the engine without a battery.

It’s flat, and it stinks. The beer, not the battery. But Skeletor seems to like it.

That’s EIGHT.

Jin doesn’t think he can fix it, but Hurley thinks that it’s worth a try. Sawyer wonders why it’s so important to the big man. Hugo figures that getting the car running is a way to bring a little hope to the group.

“If it’s hope you’re looking for, Ese, you’re on the wrong damn island. Cuz’ there sure as Hell ain’t no hope here.”

Hugo’s Dad wakes him up to take him on an adventure. They’re going to break the curse.

A tarot card reading psychic sees Hurley winning the money and how the money has brought great misfortune. She sees numbers. The numbers.
There is darkness around these numbers. Great tragedy. She’s sorry, but the next card is death. Death surrounds him and more is coming. She sees a curse on Hugo, but it can be removed. She starts gathering her mystic ingredients to remove the curse. She needs Hurley to take off his clothes.

Something about that makes Hurley just a mite suspicious.

“I’ll give you a thousand dollars right now, if you admit that my Dad told you to say this stuff..”

“The mystic arts are not subject to bribes. How dare you…”

“Ten thousand.”

“Your Dad put me up to it.”

That’s NINE.

*Side note. You gotta wonder what the next step in the “exorcism” was going to be…*

Back in the jungle, Hurley is praying for help while Sawyer give Jin some English lessons. “International House of Pancakes.” Sawyer, back in the saddle.

When he tosses Hurley some help in the form of a beer and it sails past the big man and on down the hill, Hurley realizes that his prayers have been answered.

He goes to the beach to share the good news with Robin…er, Charlie.

Hurley wants to snap his buddy out of the moping he’s been doing. When Charlie protests, Hurley uses his Mom’s technique and slaps the Hobbit. Hard.

“OW!”

That’s TEN.

“It is dangerous. And there’s a very good chance that you will die.”

“That’s supposed to convince me to come with you?”

That’s ELEVEN.

Hurley wants to use starting this car to turn his and the group’s luck around. He needs a victory after all the crappy stuff that’s happened to him lately.

Sawyer and Jin are going over Jin’s English lessons.

“I’m sorry.”
“You were right.”
“Those pants don’t make you look fat.”

The only three things a woman needs to hear. How is it that Sawyer has so much trouble sweet talking Kate?

Hurley wants Sawyer and Jin to stop drinking and help him.

“What’s your problem Jumbo-Tron.”

“Shut up…Red…Neck…Man…”

“Touche.”

That’s TWELVE.

With some gentle persuasion, Hurley gets the boys to push the Micro Bus to the edge of a hill. Sawyer sums it up for them all. “Oh, this is gonna be real good.”

Hurley is packing for Australia and his Dad is still trying to change his mind. He tries to convince his son to stay, suggesting that the big guy just give away the money and just keep enough to buy that new carburetor for the Camaro. It doesn’t work, and the sincerity of the offer is questionable at best.

“Are you nuts?”

Sawyer is understandably skeptical of the big man’s chances of surviving the plunge over the hill in the Mystery Machine. Hurley figures he’ll pop the clutch at speed and start the bus with no trouble. Charlie came to ride shotgun. He wants to face possible death and see if his number really is up. Victory or Death.

“There is no curse. We make our own luck. There is no curse.”

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When he pops the clutch, the bus roars to life, eight track blaring “Shambala” by Three Dog Night.

Wash away my troubles, wash away my pain
With the rain in Shambala
Wash away my sorrow, wash away my shame
With the rain in Shambala

[Chorus:]
Ah, ooh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Everyone is helpful, everyone is kind
On the road to Shambala
Everyone is lucky, everyone is so kind
On the road to Shambala

How does your light shine, in the halls of Shambala

I can tell my sister by the flowers in her eyes
On the road to Shambala
I can tell my brother by the flowers in her eyes
On the road to Shambala

How does your light shine, in the halls of Shambala

“Shambala” is also the name of a mystical Buddhist Kingdom said to lie somewhere beyond the Himalayas as well as being a Sanskrit term meaning “peace” or “tranquility”.

Those Lost writers. So subtle.

At the bottom of the hill, Scooby and the gang pile into the Mystery Machine and go for a joyride.

Jin returns to camp bearing a flower for Sun. I bet that during that slow motion hug he told her that those pants don’t make her look fat.

Charlie returns to Claire and regales her with the story of his adventure. Sawyer scans the camp for Kate, but she’s nowhere to be found.

Hurley takes the Micro Bus for another spin, basking in the glow of his victory.

Ahh, that’s some good basking.

Out in the jungle, Locke and Saayid catch up with Kate and ask her why she didn’t seek their help to rescue Jack. She explains her reasons, and while Locke doesn’t disagree that he isn’t motivated to find Jack, he does think he knows where to look. He has a compass bearing and thinks that following it will lead them to Jack. Saayid seems less than convinced, as he knows that the source of the bearing is the way that the sunlight hit Mr. Eko’s stick when Locke was burying him, but he doesn’t seem opposed to trying.

“Now that we’ve told you our secret, why don’t you tell us yours.”

When shots ring out all around them, Kate gets a reprieve from answering Locke’s question. She calls for the shooter to show themselves, that she just came to talk. The shooter is Rousseau. Kate asks for her help but Rousseau has no reason to help them.

Until Kate reveals the existence of a sixteen year old girl, named Alex, who bears a strong resemblance to Danielle….

Oh, baby!

And for those wondering what I was counting? The times I laughed out loud when I watched this episode the second time through. That’s a dozen laughs in forty-two minutes of television. Letterman should do so well. Humour, Pathos, Drama. When they get it right, nothing is better than Lost.

33 Comments

  1. 1
    ccknows
    Posted March 1, 2007 at 6:17 pm

    Was it just me, or did Jin look exceptionally fine this episode? More Jin! More Jin!

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    msu11y28
    Posted March 1, 2007 at 7:02 pm

    Grey Bishop, loved your recap, but I wish you had told us what the counting meant a little earlier…I went back and re-read the first 2 pages several times trying to figure out what I was missing!
    Loved this episode, reminded me of the glory days of Season 1, and how can you not love the reappearance of Vincent?

  3. 3
    mikey
    Posted March 1, 2007 at 7:37 pm

    I thought this episode was a snooze. A whole episode about Hugo’s daddy issues and his victory over a dilapidated bus? Really?

    I know this season has its detractors, but this was among its low points, in my opinion. The worst part about the mini-season (first 6 eps) for me was the over-focusing on Kate and Sawyer. I JUST DON’T CARE about them, so their strong presence in this episode just bored me even more.

    Can’t wait to see more Ben and Desmond in the coming weeks. They’re by far the most intriguing people now. (How great will a Ben flashback episode be?!?!)

  4. 4
    Greybishop
    Posted March 1, 2007 at 7:38 pm

    For those out there who thought that this episode did nothing to advance the mystery on the show, let me share a nugget that I completely missed while I was busy concentrating on writing today’s recap. This just occurred to me as I was double checking for spelling, etc., after this was posted.

    Randy is working for Hurley. Meteor impact. That night Hurley’s dad comes back into his life. A few days (This is the CRITICAL part) later, Hurley leaves for Australia.

    Stay with me.

    Locke is in the lunch room, and has a run in with Randy, who appears to be his supervisor. A few days later (See where I’m going here?), Locke leaves for his Walkabout in Australia.
    So, Randy is working at the box company as a Supervisor and at Mr. Clucks as a manager? Sure, two full time jobs are not impossible, but they both seem like DAY jobs! How’s this possible???
    Randy might be WAY more important than we thought!

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    missyukp
    Posted March 1, 2007 at 7:47 pm

    I kept debating whether to go back and reread your intro to see if I missed something about the counting…of course i was too lazy to do that :)

    Great recap regardless and I think you make a great point about how much you laughed out loud, because this truly was a feel good episode about hope. And my hope is that this season picks up the pace, so I can appreciate these feel good episodes.

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    Lady-in-Gray
    Posted March 1, 2007 at 7:55 pm

    Another great recap, Greybishop. Bravo!

    I absolutely LOVED this episode. It did my heart good to see our Losties smiling, laughing and having fun! I didn’t even find Charlie annoying this week. Even Paulo, complaining about the cereal bar shortage, couldn’t dampen my mood.

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    JasonR
    Posted March 1, 2007 at 10:32 pm

    I also loved this episode. Mood and tension are great, but after weeks of one downer episode after another, a little comic relief was very welcome.

    Boy, those Dharma folks were really into their logo. They even covered the “VW” on the front of the van with the Dharma symbol.

    Greybishop,keep up the good work, and kudos on the 24 hour turnaround on the recap!

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    Ubiquitous
    Posted March 2, 2007 at 4:50 am

    Randy is working for Hurley. Meteor impact. That night Hurley’s dad comes back into his life. A few days (This is the CRITICAL part) later, Hurley leaves for Australia.

    Stay with me.

    Locke is in the lunch room, and has a run in with Randy, who appears to be his supervisor. A few days later (See where I’m going here?), Locke leaves for his Walkabout in Australia. So, Randy is working at the box company as a Supervisor and at Mr. Clucks as a manager? Sure, two full time jobs are not impossible, but they both seem like DAY jobs! How’s this possible???

    Obviously those two scenes did not take place concurrently. After the Mr Clucks was destroyed, Hurley felt sorry for Randy and got him a job at the box factory. Of course, this speculation about the interconnection between Hurley and Locke is a waste of time because the writers/producers have said as much.

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    Greybishop
    Posted March 2, 2007 at 5:50 am

    Ubiquitous -
    Respectfully, I’m not so sure.
    Unless Hurley spent a LOT of time in Australia, it certainly seemed like his departure and Locke’s run right around the same time.
    What makes it odd is that Randy and Locke obviously know each other well enough to despise each other. Seemed like Randy had been at the box company a while. We never see Hurley giving Randy any help, so it just seems very odd that he’s in the apparently supervisory position so quickly after being a Mr. Cluck’s manager.

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    LOSTbean
    Posted March 2, 2007 at 6:37 am

    Great recap, GB! It was nice to have a “lighter” episode and an equally upbeat, HILARIOUS recap. I, too, thought the incoming sound of the meteorite sounded like flight 815-totally freaked me out! Thanks for reiterating the LOL moments. This episode will make me laugh, no matter how many times I watch it, especially with your recap in the back of my mind as I watch. ;o)

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    cclost
    Posted March 2, 2007 at 6:53 am

    This Randy issue really seems like a writing flaw, at the very least, they need to explain the deal.

    Actually, in one of the previous Hurley flashbacks when he is speaking to his lawyer, he didnt even know he owns the box company. It seems like the Mr. CLucks thing happens right before he leaves and he has Hurley seems pretty focused on going to getting to the widows house in the outback so I doubt much time was spent in Australia.

    So, I would say that Hurley a. knows he has the box company (which burnt down?) b. left right after the clucks incident c. Randy was the boss there.

    Is it possible that the Locke flashback happened way before this? Could Locke have spent lots of time in Australia? That is certainly possible. Maybe Locke went to go on his walkabout and decided not to come back to the states? Until the flight?

    Of course the writers could see this problem. Good Catch GB! And Great recap, too.

  12. 12
    Posted March 2, 2007 at 7:05 am

    I totally agree with you, this episode had me laughing out loud. The only thing that got me was that nobody bothered to ask Kate and Sawyer what happened when they first got back to camp. That would been one of my first questions. After I hugged all over Sawyer that is…..

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    Corri2
    Posted March 2, 2007 at 7:30 am

    This was the best episode of the season so far. After reading the recap I just have to watch it again. I laughed out loud as well at all the things you did GB. And like msu11y28 I went back and started re-reading the recap to try and figure out what you were counting. I finally figured you would tell us at the end of the recap.

    In regards to Locke/Hurley/Randy… When Locke worked for the box company and had his run in with Randy wasn’t he (Locke) younger? I mean didn’t he have a full head of hair? Maybe Randy worked there first and then went to work at Mr. Cluck’s. It’s possible he worked at both places at the same time but I don’t know. Just a guess.

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    dsc805
    Posted March 2, 2007 at 7:39 am

    What? No Little Miss Sunshine references?

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    Greybishop
    Posted March 2, 2007 at 7:47 am

    dsc805 -
    I had to have the “Little Miss Sunshine” thing explained to me when someone brought it up with regards to the episode.
    Never heard of it until yesterday.
    I have PCI.
    (Pop Culture Impairment)

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    wniffene
    Posted March 2, 2007 at 8:52 am

    I didn’t really get a lot from this episode, I agree that it was funny and feel good overall but it really seemed to be about nothing. The whole van thing was a stretch the idea that it would have started after years rusting in the jungle was ludicrous and the “big moment” of the episode where Kate goes to Rousseau for help was predictable. All week long the ads said that this would be the episode everyone was talking about but I just didn’t see it.

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    Die_MediaWhores
    Posted March 2, 2007 at 9:52 am

    Zzzzzzzzzzzz. Not your summary, the episode. Your summary was much better. Unlike some of you, I thought it was wholly unfunny in that it was ENTIRELY predictable. Geez, Stevie Wonder could see those jokes coming from a mile away. I feel like they asked my nephew to come up with the punch lines. He’s 7.

    Hey Jacob, we need something funny to happen when the news people go into the restuarant.

    “Umm, you could have a missile hit it! That would be COOL!”

    Seriously, it was 1st grade humor at best. I think the writers should worry less about constructing lame-ass jokes and get to the story at hand. I’m about thisclose to giving up.

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    ShouldBWorkin
    Posted March 2, 2007 at 10:39 am

    jasonr
    im into old VW’s i own two buses and a bug Volkswagen of America nazi Lawyers will not allow anyone with written permission (and probly cash) to use VW logo

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    Greybishop
    Posted March 2, 2007 at 10:54 am

    Die -
    I agree that a lot of it was predictable (still laughed even though I KNEW the head was going to fall off!), but some of it they telegraphed WAY back.
    Hurley mentioned that the Mr. Cluck’s got hit by a meteor back in the “Numbers” episode in Season 1, so we knew it was coming. Much like the head though, I still found it really funny.
    I admit it. I have the comic sensibilities of a seven year old.
    ;o)

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    Maynerd
    Posted March 2, 2007 at 11:01 am

    Dharma outs its own label on the Green Giant Niblets, why is it unusual if they do it on the microbus as well? It’s like they don’t (didn’t) want the participants in the project to even be aware that there was an outside world.

    “Oh him? That’s just Roger.” Great stuff. Great episode. Soooo good to be back on the beach.

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    gillian
    Posted March 2, 2007 at 11:03 am

    I did some Googling about Randy & found this:

    “According to the official Lost podcast, Hurley feels sorry for Randy after Mr Cluck’s is hit by the meteorite and gives him a job working at his box company.” from lostpedia.com

    I think the writers realized their timing mistake (like you said, both events seemed to have happened fairly close together) & used this explanation as a cop out.

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    gasmgrrl
    Posted March 2, 2007 at 11:06 am

    This episode was BORING the only thing that made me laugh is the striking similarity between the name of the reporter- Tricia Tanaka- and
    Asian Reporter Tricia Takanawa
    from the Family Guy.

    Man those Lost writers…

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    msu11y28
    Posted March 2, 2007 at 12:39 pm

    wniffene, I agree that there wasn’t much to take from this episode, but I’d take a 1st season-esque Lost with Hurley, Sayid, et al that reveals very little over more Jack episodes that PROMISE to reveal something and then never deliver…

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    silentfire
    Posted March 2, 2007 at 1:26 pm

    Hurley did not even go so far chasing the dog to find the van, so how could no one have found it before? That kind of stuff ticks me off! I was glad that it was a Hurley episode because I’ve enjoyed his previous stories. This episode though… eh… I didn’t really care that much for it.

    I too didn’t understand your counting GB and I scrolled up like 3 times to check if I missed something lol. I didn’t find any of it Laugh out loud funny, but some parts did get a chuckle. Lost needs to pickup in the next episodes, so far this season has been the worst of them all, so hopefully they can do something about that.

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    zoobabe
    Posted March 2, 2007 at 4:16 pm

    I liked Sawyer’s one-liners (and your recap as well GB). I didn’t like the fact that the previews built this epiosde up to be something greater than it was.

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    i-HEART-hummus
    Posted March 2, 2007 at 4:34 pm

    So many problems with this episode, mainly the total disregard for character & legitimate motivation. If H’s mom had had the ability to pick up the phone & call his dad to help out with a problem he was going through, why didn’t she do it earlier? Like, when he was upset his dad ran away in the first place? Why didn’t H call her out on this and ask why this wasn’t done earlier? If she was really motivated by her “needs” (a really bad attempt at Desperate Housewives-style humor) wouldn’t this have come up years & years earlier??

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    Sam
    Posted March 2, 2007 at 11:00 pm

    OK. So, first off, I want to agree with most and say I enjoyed this episode. I love laughing WITH Lost and not AT Lost. The whole “Red. Neck. Man.” one-liner was hilarious!

    However, for those of you blaming the writers for the RANDY incident, I’m not sure if it’s totally their fault. I mean collectivelly it would be the writers, casting, and JJ Abrams. I mean, the writers could have just wrote, “RANDY” in the script and the casting guys just figured it was the same guy. And then JJ Abrams didn’t pay enough attention. But we’re all just grasping at straws and who knows what really happened behind the scenes.

    As far as i-HEART-hummus’ comments go though, Hurley’s mom never called him before because she knew there was no reason for him to come back. This time, her son had over $100 million and she knew that him being the jerk-off that he is, he would come back for the money. So she figured she let him know so she could get some of that —– from her old man! He obviously left his family out to dry and would not come back unless there was a reason for it.

    Also, in response to silentfire, someone probably did see the van before. First off, the dog pulled the arm out of the car that had the key on it. So even if anybody did find the van, they wouldn’t have any way of starting it (at first site). Plus, it was burried under leaves and debris, so it was difficult to see anyway. And finally, you saw everyone’s reaction when Hurley told everyone. No one cared. No one saw the point. So someone probably did see it and just didn’t care enough to do anything about it because they had lost hope.

    That’s why this episode was important because it reiterated the essence of hope in a few of the characters, which is a necessary tool for survival. But I’m not gonna get on a soap box or anything.

    Lastly, I just want to say that although I loved this episode, I was pissed that the “BIG REVEAL” at the end was telling the French Woman that her daughter was with the others. And they laid it on thick as if they were breaking down some big secret to us. AS IF we didn’t already know that was her daughter. What would surprise us, and even piss most of us off, would be if she WASN’T daughter. Because all signs lead to it and if they were just fucking with us, I know I’d be pissed. We’ve had three years to figure out that Alex is her daughter, what’s the difference now?

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    Ubiquitous
    Posted March 5, 2007 at 8:03 am

    Ubiquitous -
    Respectfully, I’m not so sure. Unless Hurley spent a LOT of time in Australia, it certainly seemed like his departure and Locke’s run right around the same time.

    Now that someone mentioned it, I remembered it was said in a podcast. I still stand by my statement that it ultimately doesn’t matter because the producers are just making it up as they go along and the apparent connections we see in the flashbacks are meaningless (straight from the jackasses’ mouths during their commentary in last month’s recap episode).

  29. 29
    jobu
    Posted March 5, 2007 at 9:46 am

    This ep is making me rethink my decision to continue on w/ this show. At every commercial break I found myself saying “who f***in’ cares. I truly hate this show, but can’t stop watching because I want ANSWERS!

  30. 30
    ikkepagrasset
    Posted March 5, 2007 at 4:28 pm

    Sorry to come so late to the party, but how exactly did the restaurant look like a plane when it was on fire? I guess I just don’t see it.

    Excellent episode, although Cheech Marin made my stomach curdle a little — not because I dislike him (c’mon! He’s Cheech the School Bus Driver!) but because I didn’t really expect to see him on Lost. Eh, I got over it.

  31. 31
    M. Hunter
    Posted March 6, 2007 at 10:57 am

    I’m with jobu. The episode was well done and funny but seriously, who f-ing cares?? Episodes like this worked well in Season 1 because show was at it’s peak and there wasn’t an urgency for answers like there is now. It was so boring I actually fell asleep. Everyone claiming this was a great episode just seems so desperate to have Lost be good again that a mediocre episode gets transformed into something much better. And the cliffhanger really pissed me off. Seriously? Was there anyone who didn’t know that Kate was going to look for Rousseau? And “revealing” that Alex is her daughter? Come on…

  32. 32
    dumbanddumber
    Posted March 6, 2007 at 11:15 am

    I agree with Sam and others who have said that the ending was a letdown. That was no revelation to even casual fans of the show … they should have focused that scene around Danielle’s reaction, rather than the reveal. Otherwise, I liked the episode. It was nice to get back to some of the characters that have been neglected so far this year. I think that the placement, after last’s week’s snoozefest, wasn’t so hot (2 episodes in a row where not much really happens); if it came after a couple of more exciting episodes, the lack of momentum in moving along the story wouldn’t have been as irritating, I think…

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    Greybishop
    Posted March 7, 2007 at 1:52 pm

    Sorry I missed your comment in last week’s comments section Overcaster!
    If you want to run anything by me, best to do it here. Sorry, but I don’t post in the forums.
    Best bet will be in the comment section of the most current recap. I look at those daily, just to see if there are any questions or comments that I should respond to.
    I don’t know if you’ll see this, but if you do, feel free to ask away in the comments!

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