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Wednesday, March 21, 2012
10:05 am
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Don’t look me in the eye or I’ll sue
Good morning Gasmii. This week’s show was chock full of WTF, so let’s get to it.
Previously: Holly wants Nia to have a solo; Paige had warts; Kendall performed at a Harlem Globetrotters game and I drank more than usual to make the lambs stop screaming.
Maddie remains atop the pyramid for a third week in a row. Who saw that coming?
This week, the girls head to Chicago for Company Dance face their “nemis,” the Candy Apples. The group number is about a homeless child and Maddie will do a solo. Jabby puts Nia in a trio with Chloe and Maddie to appease Holly and to ensure they don’t win anything. The Candy Apples’ group number is about scary clowns, while Justice, The Dancer Formerly Known as Creepy Red-headed Kid, will go up against Maddie in a solo.
Shrill and Melissa meet for a fake lunch and Shrill talks about how great Cathy and the Candy Apples are.
The moms continue to bug Melissa about her secret engagement, which is so secret that she’s not even wearing her ring anymore. Melissa gets super pissed and storms out, but not before getting on her cellphone and yelling at someone to “call the attorney.” Melissa threatens not to go to Chicago, but changes her mind and shows up back at Jabby’s the next day. Jabby screams at the other moms for being mean to Melissa, leading THEM to get mad and storm out. This show should be called “Storm Out Moms.”
In Chi-Town, Maddie wins her division, handily beating Justice. The trio wins nothing and the group comes in third place. Candy Apple Taylor breaks her ankle on stage, while Machiavelli Shrill cackles and rubs her hands in the hopes that Kendall will get Taylor’s parts.
In a page right out of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, Melissa has apparently sent the moms a letter from an attorney threatening to sue if they talk about her personal life. Because when you go on a reality show, you obviously don’t want anyone to know about your personal life. When confronted, she claims it wasn’t her, but her fiancé, and she had nothing to do with it. The moms are understandably all WTF?
After the competition, Crazy Apple Cathy comes into the dressing room with an “engagement” gift for Melissa, but Melissa says she’s not allowed to talk about it, and for Cathy to talk to her lawyer. She leaves amid a hail of screaming.
Next week, Nia twists her ankle, Kelly wants a boob job and Chloe freezes up on stage.
I don’t get this “I will sue if you talk about me after I consented to go on a reality show” trend. Why would you sign on to do the show if you had any self-respect whatsoever? You’ve sold your soul and the devil don’t give refunds. (Well, except maybe that one time in Georgia.)
ANYWAY, I will have the full freakshow up in a couple days. If you’re bored or masochistic you can read about last week’s snoozefest here. Otherwise, thanks for reading and have a great day.
xoxo,
SnoopK8
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She called her fiance Greg.
Shrill, I swear.
I don’t understand how you can go on reality TV, air ALL your dirty laundry, then get upset when someone asks you a harmless question or makes a innocuous bservation (i.e. “oh, you are wearing an engagement ring. When are you getting married?”). Phaedra also did this on RH of Atlanta with her pregnancy.
I’m convinced Greg is married and that’s the reason for all the drama.
Nice theory Monica…
This behavior from Melissa is so far out of the realm of “what any rational person would do” that I have been trying to come up with any possible explainations. This is what I have come up with
1. It is all for the show. Fake nonsence designed to add intrigue for ratings.
2. She has some unresolved legal issues with her ex. Possibly an allimony deal that she would lose if she got remarried. If this were the case, however, telling the other moms (off camera) that she can’t talk about the situation on the show, and that she would be happy to fill them in, in private, would surely be far more effective then her crazy behavior so far.
3. Her fiance has legal issues of his own. Again, if this is the case, leting the other moms know, and asking them to just keep it off air seems like a reasonable request that even this group of moms would respect.
I am so incredibly baffled by this.
I don’t know why Abby was so upset that the other moms were innocently asking her about the ring, when the other week she choreographed a whole dance about a wedding to try to force Melissa into admitting that she’s engaged.
Even if this is someone’s idea of a storyline for Melissa, I wonder what’s the pay off for the audience?
No kidding. It’s bizarre. How can she not say, “nothing’s wrong, but let’s not talk about this” instead of doing her best imitation of a tea kettle. Unless the plan was to tantrum no matter what they said on the subject.
If any of this is anything like the way Melissa resolves issues then I see how a lot of things suddenly make sense.
Why do we think Kelly or Christi would honor Melissa’s request that they be quiet, if she made it? In fact, could the reason for the blow-up be that she did in fact ask them off-camera not to say anything? They sure were acting strangely “naughty” about bringing the whole thing up to begin with. And it would explain why the kids know — if it wasn’t a secret; just something that wasn’t supposed to come up on camera.
True, she may have asked. But, she ought to have asked, briefly, on camera.
If she told them in private not to mention it on the show, then why would she herself announce it in an interview? This whole episode was bizarre. Did anyone else notice Cathy getting onto Taylor for being a beat behind on the dance? After she broke her ankle? Batshit. Crazy.
I also think ‘Greg’ is still married or has a job/criminal record that prevents him from being mentioned on the show. My favorite moment of the night was when Abby told Nia that she would be in the Trio, I love it when her face lights up in pure joy. We didn’t have enough of our little star Mackenzie last night
. FREE VIVI
I also think Justice should go to Abby’s to clean up a bit, has looks like he has major potential!
Cathy is a whacko. And Shrill was gleeful. Hello, harpies! Can you not divide up the spoils after a tasteful interval… say on the way home?
This episode was nuts. When the moms were asking about the ring, why didn’t she just say, “It’s complicated and I don’t want to discuss it.” (like a normal person would) And if she wanted to keep it a secret from the get-go, then WHY did she wear a ring?? It doesn’t seem to be just for the show b/c would freak out and make Maddie cry like that? just for ratings?
How about when Abby said you never talk about weddings or divorces?? OF COURSE people talk about weddings – they are happy occasions! And the bride should want to talk about it most of all! Something weird is going on… and did anyone else think Melissa looked bigger in the boob area? Maybe a new little dancer is on the way…
I can’t believe Abby yelled that nonsense at the girls. Most people do indeed talk about weddings.
Some people on Lifetime comments are saying it’s all producer created, but I don’t know about that. The viewers don’t have much reason to care about Melissa’s “vowels” (tm, Christi).
Remember, it’s Candy Apple’s. It BELONGS to Candy Apple. At least that’s what the sign says.
I’m an attorney and I don’t remember learning anything in law school about “sue when people are asking about your engagement”. Must be one of those new causes of action.
I didn’t even think the questions were that bad – she’s not wearing the ring so the other moms were talking about that and their engagement rings and she spazzes out. Is her fiancee running for office or something? I mean who has an attorney on retainer to send “Stop being meanies to Melissa” letters?
With that being said, I am a licensed attorney, so if any of y’all have someone being mean to you and asking you inappropriate questions like “How are you today?”, “Hot enough for ya?” or “My, what a becoming new hairstyle – who is your stylist?” let me know and I’ll get a cease and desist letter out ASAP.
Melissa’s fiane IS still married-the divorce is not yet final. It took me all of ten minutes to look it up on the county records website. Further, because I looked up Melissa’s name, it showed her legally changing her name to her fiance’s last name about 10 days after HER divorce was final LAST year.
I’d say the two divorces didn’t go as planned, and perhaps she was premature in both wearing the ring AND telling the cameras (remember she did that two weeks ago and then said they were keeping it a secret). Maybe she thought the divorce would be final by the time the season aired and then it wasn’t. Hence, meltdown.
Seems like the producers would have created something a little less confusing. Not that I don’t think the producers have something to do with it, but it doesn’t fit with the corny storylines this show generally goes with.
I was wondering about that too. And Maddie and McKenzie were just kind of laughing about it then. Seems like the situation changed somehow?
SaraKate, Voice of Reason.
She legally changed her name before getting married? That’s different.
She needs to get herself together. She is stressing those poor kids out completely. Maddie’s tears! And Christi was talking about finding all the girls crying in the bathroom (an episode ago), I thought she was exaggerating, but maybe not…
Would it have been the end of the world to just not answer the questions? They’d already kind of given up and Holly was talking about when she got her engagement ring however many years ago. The most effective thing to do would be to ask Holly some questions about that. It happened years ago and it is a happy memory, she’d probably share and that’d distract everyone.
Now that SaraKate has done some investigating, what Abby said makes more sense. Still probably not appropriate to put the burden of it on the girls’ shoulders unless it’s just the rule these days that kids boss moms.
Not on the Melissa Crazy Train, but I read in the National Enquirer (don’t judge – I’m an inquiring mind) that Kate Gosselin wants to get one of her kids on the show so she can be a Dance Mom, too. I don’t know about you, but I’d love to see Jabby sparring with that shrew.
I notice in the records Melissa and the fiance have the same attorney – so HIS attorney is HER attorney as well. What a tangled web they weave. If you are going to be bitchy about your personal life and threaten your friends, you should probably at least try to get your public records sealed.
If Abby would just pick Kate Gosselin up by the scruff of the neck and fling her out the backdoor…
Because you KNOW that if you and I could find it 10 minutes flat, that the PRODUCERS know about it and keep egging the moms on to ask! Makes you wonder if the producers got letters too, doesn’t it?
Nah…I’m just nosy. I told my husband I want to be a PI when I grow up.
Awesome! I’ll let you know as soon as I need one! I’m sure after I get a haircut today, SOMEONE will like it…
You’re right! My bad! (Or should I say “your” right?)
Ha! Great find.
That’s just so…bizarre.
That’s so it! He’s married and she’s pre go. Quite the predicament!
Sarakate can you post a link to this info…I want to read this crap for myself!! What a dirty piece of garbage! She is more interested in her sex life than raising her children!
Kate’s kids would NEVER be allowed on the show…you have to have talent! (Biting and fighting do not count!
Kate will do anything to get her 15 minutes back…what a sad, pathetic woman!
I don’t think I can actually link the information. But all you have to do is go here:
http://westmorelandweb400.us:8088/EGSPublicAccess.htm
You can search on her name from there.
What you can find on there is sad and amazing…cc debt, divorce, foreclosure…the list goes on and on…I feel bad for her girls! I see a future Kate Gosselin here!
Don’t freak out or think I am a fan of Melissa’s cuz this girl isn’t. But what part of innocently asking are some of you referring to when talking about Christie and Kelly, they are the original Mean Girls, and I know ,I know it is all for ratings, but I would hate the fact that my kids and friends were seeing me act like an idiot, real or not. Also do you really think if alimony were involved or this was really a secret engagement that Melissa would have ever even wore the ring come on!!! Get a brain.
I did a search and found nothing. What search criteria did you use?
I almost agreed with you until I remembered that Vivi is on the show and she’s a terrible dancer. FREE VIVI!
If one of the Gosselins make it on, we’ll be able to start a new FREE! campaign. =)
Make sure to do last name first, then go to the bottom and change the search parameter dates. I just changed the second year to 2013, to make it easy. I haven’t really looked at the info yet.
I will say this about cc debt, sometimes I think divorcing people get to arguing about who should pay thus and so bill. Maybe something like that took place?
Kurt told Abby the dance lessons were a bone of contention. So, perhaps Melissa charged more lessons when Kurt thought they’d already bought plenty?
Maddie takes a lot of lessons, doesn’t she? Mackenzie looks like she might, too.
Whatever happens, I hope the girls can continue dance. Maddie especially. She really is very talented even among a group of talented girls.
I can see how Kelly and Christi may have their issues, like you said. In this case, I think it will benefit Melissa to see it on TV. She will never change K&C, and I don’t even know if they really understand how they’re making her feel.
But, Holly was there, too. I don’t think Melissa hardly noticed her being so caught up in this dynamic between K&C that possibly goes back to when they were all kids. If Melissa talks to Holly like an adult, that will help break the old dynamic and K&C might even follow along.
All Melissa did was act like a tea kettle. She sat there, hissed slightly, then boiled over. If she watches herself, maybe she’ll see that and be able to think in advance what to do when things start going in a direction she doesn’t like.
Kelly and Christi must have already known they weren’t supposed to talk about Melissa’s situation on camera. I really got the impression that Melissa isn’t supposed to talk about it herself. She took off that ring and told everyone to shut up about it, is what I’m thinking. So those little digs about “hurting Greg’s feelings” (which, I agree with wackyrack, were taken from the damn Mean Girl textbook of innocent-seeming bitchiness) were the last straw, not the first time. I know Melissa is a total loonytoon and the info about her changing her last name is disturbing, but Kelly and Christi knew exactly what they were doing — I think they are evil. And I have no respect for Holly now that she’s “quit” her job. Who does that? Who quits a respectable career to spend more time on a reality show where her daughter gets abused every week by her dance teacher? Holly is as full of shit as the rest of them.
It’s very possible that this is the reason Holly is quitting. But I’m wondering if this is something that was in the works before because a few episodes ago and then again last night they were talking about not being able to see all of their kids’ activities and stuff. Plus, now that she has a doctorate she may be looking for a better position.
I hope you are wrong (but I have a sad sneaking suspicion you are right).
I thought Holly simply wants a break. The woman worked full time and maintained a family..while obtaining her doctorate. First word that pops in my head is EXHALE.
I meant I don’t think Holly is doing the same thing in this scene as Kelly and Christi. She isn’t there as much, so she seems a little clueless as exactly what is happening.
Melissa could have used Holly talking about her ring as a way to put the focus on Holly, not herself. Since it is something positive that Holly herself brought up, it’s not even mean to do that. Mean girls pretending to be nice are sometimes stymied by this because it’s hard to go immediately back to their ploys. And before they managed to do that, Melissa could excuse herself.
It’s a stop gap measure, to be sure, and only works if you have someone you know they won’t attack. But, it’s better than what she did which upset every person in the cast.
Do u guys follow the dance moms on twitter? Melissa practically came out and said that the blow up was scripted. I don’t know if she if telling the truth or just trying to get everyone off her back. Also if you look at Holly and Cristi’s tweets they said that the whole thing was real! It makes you wonder maybe the show isn’t scripted but instigated… One person is told to do something so the show can get drama while the reactions of the othe people (who do not know the situation is scripted) is 100% real.
I put “quit” in quotation marks because I don’t see how she could stay on as principal after this season of the show aired. I would find it very hard as a parent to respect anyone involved with such a dramatic “reality” show. I totally understand her needing a break, Moli, but how is being on the show any kind of a break?
Another thing that annoys me is Christi and Kelly getting all worked up about how Melissa was their friend. All they have ever done is bitch about her. Some friends.
But hey — kudos to this show for interesting me again! I thought I was out, but this little drama is more real than the meat commercial or the burlesque fiasco.
When you do a search at the link in comment #34, you have to put in Melissa’s fiance’s last name (her new name), “Gisoni” to get a hit…not the last name “Zeigler’.
They not only got engaged, even though his divorce is still active, but it looks like she is 20 some-odd years younger than the soon to be ex (I’m assuming she’s 35-38ish).
I think it’s really weird that she petitioned the court for a name change. I mean, why wouldn’t she just wait until they got married? Seems a little passive-aggressive at the ex…weird.
And I’m kinda LOLing at the comments, including my own…never underestimate nosey nellie power of the internet.
*THE nosey nellie power
Reality Stars are required to sign contracts that essentially relinquish their rights to any privacy. However, Melissa’s fiance Greg is not under contract, therefore he can request that his name or personal life not be discussed on the show. And he CAN take legal action if they do not adhere. It’s been done before, and networks take it very seriously. That’s why the letter was from his attorney. Melissa can’t ask anyone not to discuss her personal life, but he can ask that they not discuss him. Which means they can’t discuss her engagement or upcoming marriage. People don’t usually go to such extreme measures unless they have something to hide. My guess is he’s got some type of criminal past, which could potentially effect Melissa’s custody of the girls. Christi said, “We can say what we want”, but she needs to know that “Contempt of Court” is a jailable offense in Pennsylvania…. New spinoff show-Jail Moms!
Hasn’t anyone told these women that you can get your public records sealed? SMH
It’s worth searching under ziegler as well. There aren’t that many people with that last name so I just used it without a first name. I got some obviously unrelated stuff, but Kurt and Melissa are named in a few things. Apparently, Kurt either owned or owns a landscaping company.
Contempt of court? I thought it was just a letter from a lawyer? Or do you mean IF Melissa sues Christi and wins, then Christi could be retroactively punished? I feel like I’m missing something?
It doesn’t seem as if Christi has that much information. She knows Melissa is engaged and to whom. But, Melissa has already spilled enough info that… hm, well… Greg probably should asked her to keep it off the show from the start.
Kurt owns a Mortgage company, right next to a “Dance Factory.”
ADDRESS:
414 Clay Ave
Jeannette, PA 15644-2123
COUNTY: Westmoreland
CONTACT: Kurt Ziegler
TITLE: Owner
EMPLOYEES: (est.) 7
REVENUE: (est.) 1,393,000
SIC CODE: 616201
CATEGORY: Real Estate Loans
I know, right? My husband was like, you seriously looked it up? LOL!
I don’t know. I think he could probably demand that his name not be mentioned on the show, but I don’t think they could actually keep her from mentioning her engagement (or the other women from mentioning her engagement).
And to have “contempt of court”, they’d first have to go to court and get an injunction to say they can’t discuss him and then they’d have to violate the order, and I don’t think they’d have a very easy time of it. Melissa probably should have had her lawyer read her contract a little closer before signing it.
If the blow up was scripted, then I have even less respect for Melissa. She would freak out like that and make Maddie sob for a scripted blow up? B*tch.
Yes if the “fiance” doesn’t want his info on the show, then that’s one thing. But then why did Melissa wear the ring at all? Doesn’t she realize that anyone that sees a rock on someone’s left hand is going to ask about it? And again, when they did ask about why the ring wasn’t on, all she had to do was say, “I really don’t want to/can’t talk about it.” and change the subject. That’s not that difficult.
Maddie was even hiding and crying, but she had her arms crossed… so, she also was standing her ground. It was all real for her so I really, really hope her mother didn’t upset her so much over, well, even less than she did. And then she tried to make Abby send Maddie out.
Melissa made every girl except possibly Brooke cry. And then poor Mackenzie asking, “where’s Maddie?” I don’t know why Melissa didn’t go off by herself, call her fiance, and calm down. She knows Abby won’t throw the girls out in the street and the other moms wouldn’t either.
If she had kept replying “I really can’t talk about this” every time K&C asked, they would eventually get bored and give up on her. I think, in the past, they have gotten her to tell them things by being persistent. So, she will have to be even more persistent to teach them differently. The way she did handle it was like waving a red flag in front of a bull. Most people would keep asking because she was acting so weird. Maybe she’d spelled it all out off camera. But, if so, it needed repeating.
I will say again if melissa hadn’t acted so odd about the whole thing I would never have become so interested. I just figured she was a golddigging adulterous skank….but the way she acted practically begged people to give her more attention…and frankly I thank Sarakate for helping us all find out more. She acts so self righteous and she really should tuck her tail and be more humble considering the way she goes about getting men with money and breaking up marriages. I think she actually enjoys the attention. She craves it…you can tell. And again I never saw Jill get a letter from Gregs lawyer…hmmm??!! If you allow one person to speak on your personal life, then you are agreeing for others to engage in conversation about it as well! Lesson for you Greg (maybe you wanna back out now) when dating gold diggers, attention whores, and pathological liars do not offer them the ring, just throw a $20 on the table and dip out
this thread has a lot of interesting insider comments about the dance moms, especially melissa regarding the marriage and greg… looks like greg cheated with melissa and his ex-wife only found out after kurt (melissas ex) sent a bill recording a car greg purchased for melissa… and Melissa’s house tour, that was actually Susan’s and greg’s home.
Wow if this was what really happened I wouldn’t want it aired on the show either…
Is there not an episode of Dance moms, when Nia runs off the stage and Holly convinces the judges to let her perform again? Please settle this argument.
Evvy, there was a competition where Nia forgot her dance & ran off stage. Holly asked if she could go again and they said yes. I do not know if it was a judge or director though. The show is so scripted and the results so messed with, it is hard to know what is true.
I do not think Maddie is the best dancer. I know she gets more time devoted to her making her the best trained. But as far as natural grace & elegance Chloe & Paige both beat her at that, Chloe especially. Chloe is gifted & her talents are from God. SO while Maddie is great & very well trained, the gift of grace will end up on top. Especially as the girls grow & get better teachers. That will leave Abbey with Maddie which is what she wants.
Greg is still married to Susan and he claims there is no engagement. Melissa changed her last name to his & moved into his home with the girls. He was upset with Melissa because by saying she was engaged & wearing her ring, it would make it tougher on hin at the divorce hearing, which has not happened yet. He also has a child & according to many sites, Melissa is not his first and one of the others was also on a “reality show”
I do not think Melissa thought abut her talking about the engagement would cause him problems. That is what I do not like about her. Melissa came in & announced the engagement & showed the girls the ring. Then she goes out to lunch with Cathy & talked about it on air. Then the next week, she calls Greg to call his attorney. She should have been woman enough to say legally she could not talk about it and told them not to as well or Greg’s attorney would contact them.
Instead she runs to Abby, calls Greg to call his attroney, uses the F word in front of the kids, and threw an all out fit. When the moms get the letters, she claimed she did not have them sent. We all saw & heard it. The best thing for the moms to do now is to completely ignore Melissa. If she ever does get maried, Abby & Cathy can come. Melissa has 2 little girls & maybe these are the values she wants for her kids.
Folks, Melissa got engaged to Kurt before he was divorced. Kurt ends up bankrupt. Melissa goes looking for next sugar daddy, find this Gisoni (sp) guy, goes off with him for two weekends in a row, during competition, and, he too is not yet divorced. Melissa is all about money. She doesn’t care if the next man with money is married. To her, he is fair game. She is currently on her third marriage, if they are even married yet. She moved herself and her girls into his home only 4 months after his wife moved out. Melissa is no role model, nor some saint. And she needs to stop saying that the entire planet is jealous of Maddie. There are other dancers out there, better than her, but not shown on the show. Melissa is so jealous of Chloe it is palpable.