Toddlers & Tiaras Minicap

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By DearCrabby | | 8:17 am | 89 Comments

 Do you have this in a calculator?

Well, sort of back to the crazy drama in this week’s episode of Toddlers & Tiaras.  Kids are rather normal, moms are a little high-strung and hand-wringing, then all hell breaks loose when once again, the judges seem to need Jitterbug Calculators since they cannot seem to add 10+10+10.

First up is Sienna, 4, who is a little spastic but no more than any sugared-up kid.  Her mother is fixated on the fact they came in fourth place at a pageant about a year ago, and did you hear she came in fourth place about a year ago?  Sienna visits the “back cracker” chiropractor, doesn’t really know her routine, came in fourth last year in a pageant, watches her mom too much and doesn’t make eye contact with the judges.  Although pretty, she came in fourth in a pageant last year when she came in fourth in a pageant last year.  Finally, she came in fourth in a pageant last year.  Way to glass-half-full of fourth place it.

Next is Trinity, 5, who is doing her first glitz pageant.  I love how the moms just assume they are going to sweep the ultimate grand in their first glitz pageant.  Luckily, mom is adept at the ShamBrow™ and Trinity is a pretty girl.  However, I think mom makes her nervous and Trinity shows it.  She’s pretty uncomfortable and stiff during beauty, but luckily manages to relax with a really inappropriate Booty Pop during one category.  No little girl should know how to do this or be encouraged by her mother to pop anything on her body.  But at least she didn’t come in fourth place last year.

Finally we meet Kylie, 5, who has a solid ego but isn’t bitchy (yet).  She’s been doing a lot of modeling and making more money at that than pageants (which begs the question, why continue with pageants?).  She sees a hairdresser who cannot remember her name (no tip for you, one year!), has cool blinking lights on a robot costume, but has a catastrophic moment with her pretty feet.  Save us, Jeebus, from coming in fourth place last year!

Well, seems like the egos and moms jinxed themselves somewhat when crowning arrives…one mom has a confrontation with another little girl about calling her daughter a “loser,” which, good one.  The real crisis of the pageant is that the score sheets are missing the judges’ names and the scores don’t add up correctly and/or they are scratched out and replaced with different numbers.  Sounds fixed, but I’m thinking that maybe the judges couldn’t write their own names if 10+10+10 equals 29.9.  What the hell?  Maxine and Betty never would have let that happen.

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A Food Network host wannabe and travel fanatic (only three more continents to go!) , Dear Crabby lived in Chicago for over 10 years before returning to her native Ohio. She loves black martinis, blue cheese burgers, and The Daily Show. A two-time Chicago marathon finisher, she heartily dislikes Smokey Smokersons, slow drivers in the passing lane, and noisy children, especially when they ruin a fine dining experience or a trip to Target. A nouveau spinster, Dear Crabby spends her free time with her Cocker Spaniels and often goes by the pseudonym “Mrs. Clooney.”

89 Comments

  1. 1
    Crabbyfan
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 8:36 am

    All I have to say is at least they didn’t give away a puppy this week! But what about next week?? Turkey’s and snakes?

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    snowshoecat snowshoecat
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 8:42 am

    Nice summation, DearCrabby! So much material, right from the opener when the tween ripped off her outfit to reveal a teeny white bikini underneath. My first WTF, HOLY JUMPIN’____ moment.

    Then there was the little piano-player tossing her jacket (after a rehearsal in the hall), and Trinitee’s booty shake, pelvic-thrust talent.

    TLC plays all of this up in the commercials letting us know what a train wreck it is. It’s a side-show, folks. Step right up. Wholesome activities for little kids.

  3. 3
    snowshoecat snowshoecat
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 8:45 am

    OH! And Kiley’s (sp) mom saying she had done “Puerto Rican math” when compiling scores!! NIIIICE>

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    BedHeadJen
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 9:20 am

    Sienna, who is four years old, came in fourth last year. Coincedence?

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    Closet fan
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 9:26 am

    Lions, Tigers and Bears oh my!

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    Been around
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 9:38 am

    Look at the scoresheet she holds up, it clearly shows three 10′s in a column and directly below it is the number 30!!! Written on the fourth line. Then below that is a 29.9. Now look at the top left corner….a staple. This is how pageant scores work, first page is from judge one, second page is from judge two, third page is from judge three. The 30 is the score for that first page, from Judge one, the 29.9 is the score for the routine after the highest total and lowest total are dropped. So 29.9 is her score for the event. Most likely judge two scored her a total of 29.8 and judge three a total of 29.9 making 29.9 her score for the event.

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    snowshoecat snowshoecat
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 9:53 am

    Closet, that’s next week… And bunnies, and turkeys, and snakes….

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    Closet fan
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 10:01 am

    @snowshoecat. I can’t get that commercial out of my head. I can’t wait to read this recap because once I saw the commercial for next week I forgot what was actually happening THIS week. Did you see that tiger? WTF? A tiger, for reals.

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    snowshoecat snowshoecat
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 10:04 am

    Closet, dang!! Missed the tiger. Snakes are getting old hat. I was fixated on some kid dragging a turkey onstage. A fturkey!

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    ash1
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 10:19 am

    Come on, TLC, bring back the cray-cray moms and uggos! Two weeks in a row of relative sanity and cute kids….somebody better slip on a cow pattie and fall on her ass next week…or on her kid…

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    Pageant-grandma
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 10:38 am

    Wait… What?… I have only seen the trailer, and when kylie’s mom said the scoresheets didn’t have names, I assumed that meant the kid’s name (because then how could you be sure they were the right scores?). That is worth getting your knickers in a knot over. No judges’ names? That happens more often than not– often it’s just an initial, at best. And that’s when you actualy GET scoresheets.

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    snowshoecat snowshoecat
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 10:51 am

    Ash1, with any luck it’ll be the ass she rode in on.

  13. 13
    Crabbyfan
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 10:53 am

    @beenaround. Are you the pageant director of this pageant? Because nobody else understands how these things work. I mean… who are the judges anyway? A hairstylist, a mom that has 9 kids in the pageant system, and miss virginia turkey leg??

  14. 14
    confusedinCanada
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 10:57 am
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    snowshoecat snowshoecat
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 11:40 am

    Wow Canadian! I hope that never comes back to bite “Perfect Mom Wendy” in the proverbial. We all start with perfect little humans, and, through our actions, their own perversity, or serendipity, sometimes they don’t turn out quite the way we intended.

    There are worse things than adults posing nude (like dressing little ones provocatively), and Vanessa had courage to tell it all in a book so others could maybe learn.

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    confusedinCanada
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 1:21 pm

    you know Cat, you said it excellently

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    StageMom
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 1:42 pm

    Half the time you don’t get score sheets and if you do they are worthless without the master. In general pageant math makes little to no sense. I stand by my earlier comparison to a room full of monkeys with typewriters mixed with a room full of drunken actuaries.

    I have been to pageants where points are deducted for infractions like coaching or grooming in the ballroom, straps on dress not wide enough or turns. What been around is saying makes more sense. Usually I get all of the judges score sheets for each event staples together with the overall score on the front. Sometimes they add the scores together, so it would say 89.7 or sometimes they take the average from each event and add the event averages and sometimes they drop highest and lowest. I was hoping for score sheets without contestant names. That would have been drama worthy. I’m not sure what difference a couple of scrawled out initials would have made.

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    snowshoecat snowshoecat
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 2:21 pm

    Thanks, Canada!

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    Just me
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 3:53 pm

    Tlc is filming my daughter again next weekend. Lord help me.,

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    Pageant-grandma
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 4:30 pm

    Seriously, perfect-mom-Wendy?! Look, paisley is a cute kid, but she has the stage-presence of a bent staple, and her only claim to “fame” so far is your horridly inappropriate costume choices, and a greasy “agent” who makes me feel the need to shower when he appears on my tv. I am glad to know you have never done something others may see as immoral… Oh… Wait. And as my handle implies, I don’t have a problem with pageants!!

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    Jen
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 4:56 pm

    Did Sienna come in 4th place last year?

    Warners, NY is about 20 minutes from here. I think I even know the exactly housing neighborhood she is in. Though for some odd reason Trinity is in the Syracuse City Schools rather than Camillus (the district she lives in).

    I think Sienna’s mom was the craziest of the three “I almost died” when Sienna got 4th. Really? You almost DIED? I’d hate to see what happens when she doesn’t get prom queen.

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    fancyface
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 5:18 pm

    1. Trinity’s mom…if you thought the ‘booty pop’ was cute but not classy like you said in the beginning of the episode WHY IS THAT ALL SHE DID DURING WHATEVER WEAR? BTW, your daughter got 3rd place because she looked stiff and scared in beauty. Plus? That’s not a bad job seeing as how it was her 1st glitz pageant, so suck it!
    2. Sienna’s mom would TOTALLY not have done this pageant again after her daughter was ‘shafted’ at it before UNLESS she was being filmed for it so I’m not buying her whole, ‘let’s prove they were wrong’ b.s. reason she claimed she returned. Sienna’s cute but I don’t think there’s ever a reason a 5 year old should wear fishnets!
    3. Kylie is adorable and I loved her rocket routine UNTIL she said ‘I kicked ass, of course I did’ statement. I’m surprised they didn’t bleep that out but her mom needs to let her know that’s not ok. She def needs to stick with modeling because a lot of models don’t make as much $ as she has in only a year so she may have a promising future in it. BTW MOM…her legs were open during beauty because she was doing regular modeling instead of what pageants call ‘modeling’ so you should’ve worked on that a little more beforehand.
    4. Whoever that little shit Kelsey is, she needed to be popped for making Sienna cry lol.
    5. So Berkley (what college did her dad attend) STILL doesn’t have a new beauty dress huh? I guess they thought the flesh colored look from her epi was a hit?

    Now, I USUALLY call b.s when people complain about their scores, but I have to say, I kinda think they had a point here. If you’re going to be deducted for something, they should let you know beforehand, and if they’re crossing out scores, I would question that as well.

    And ok, I can see how someone would THINK a ‘my pet & me’ pageant would be cute, but this CLEARLY wasn’t well thought out. I can’t wait to see that shit storm!

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    Pageant-grandma
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 5:21 pm

    I really wish that these moms would stop harping on “win! Win!”, or insisting that anything short of the top title is “losing”. Sienna placed 4th last year. She got division supreme this year. Seems like a win to me. How about teaching her to be proud of her performance, or heck, concentrating on whether or not she had a good time? And Kylie has been around the block enough to know that winning mini-supreme enchilada with cheese means that of COURSE you aren’t winning a higher title, so what was up with the little mouthing-disbelief-drama? Mini is great considering she screwed up her beauty walk. Sienna was cute, but by 4, most kids can do their routines in their sleep, so yes, mom coaching from behind the judges is going to cost her points. It was kind of sad because from all the interviews, it sounds like she genuinely likes to compete. Trinity was a pretty girl, and I can see how she would probably do really well in natural pageants. But the first glitz pageant is very intimidating, and she looked uncomfortable on stage for beauty, and then made us all uncomfortable in the next event. Kudos to latrina for avoiding the newbie mistake of attempting to do her hair and makeup herself the first time, but her (I assume rented?) dress fit weirdly, and she just didn’t seem very at ease. And the scoresheet drama was unnecessary. Look, it’s a pageant. The very nature of the hobby means that scoring will be subjective, and sometimes you will disagree with the judges. If you can’t deal with that without blaming it on the judges’ lack of initials on the scoresheets, declaring it “fixed” or otherwise teaching your child to be a sore loser, you need a new hobby.

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    Moli Moli
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 5:44 pm

    That makes sense, there were 3 judges and if they had to divide the score the score dot point would come into play.

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    Pageant-grandma
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 6:02 pm

    Let’s hope you’re one of the handful of normal moms whose kids actually enjoy it.

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    Pageant-grandma
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 6:04 pm

    And by handful, I don’t mean in the pool of pageant moms in general (most are normal), but Christ on a bicycle the freaks they get for this show!!!

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    Jen
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 6:19 pm

    Maybe little Kelsey heard her mother (or another mother or even SIENNA’S mother) says something about ‘losing’ (AKA winning so she lost) and was merely just repeating it?

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    thisbuggs4u
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 6:28 pm

    @just me-Who is your child again? I don’t remember if we have commented before :) Good luck next weekend :)

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    Pageant-grandma
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 6:32 pm

    Sienna’s mom set her up to “win, so you lose” from the beginning. Her routines were too complicated for her age, and so rather than having simpler routines she could nail on her own, she had to watch mom, which cost her. (and on an only tangentially related note, it’s a good thing I know that the music they play during kids’ routines is very often not the actual music they used, because it just is so not okay for a 4 year old to be dancing to any song about going to the club, and contains vodka references.). Before crowning, mom asks sienna if she’d be okay with a small crown, while clearly implying that the correct answer is “no”.

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    Crabbyfan
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    pageant grandma – I think you need to go on T&T and show everyone whats up!

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    Pageant-grandma
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    Crabbyfan– unfortunately, we are (crazy, right?) entirely too normal. My granddaughter loves it, we aren’t hung up on whether or not she wins, we are friendly and helpful to everyone, we are willing to laugh at ourselves, and the hobby in general, if she places lower than we think she deserves, we use it as an opportunity to teach her to be gracious, and well, frankly, they don’t want us. Lol.

  32. 32
    StageMom
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 7:37 pm


    confusedinCanada:

    What’s the thoughts on this? Our old friend Wendy is back bitches….
    http://www.tmz.com/2012/05/02/toddlers-and-tiaras-mom-vanessa-williams-response-anderson-cooper-wendy-dickey/?adid=hero2

    This is a woman who’s child has an “agent” because of all of the publicity received when she dressed her like a hooker? I agree with Vanessa Williams. My child doesn’t get anything special on pageant days other than a big breakfast and I wish parents would leave when their kids start acting like hellions. I know it wont happen when you have $250-$1500 tied up in a pageant but some days I feel like going to certain parents to ask them why they insist on bringing kids who obviously hate going to pageants. I’m not talking about a 3 year old having a moment, I’m talking about the weekend warriors who are out there every single weekend who’s kids scream all day long from hair to crowning.

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    maryedith
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 7:47 pm

    In fairness, I couldn’t say how three 10′s added up to 29.9 either.

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    Pageant-grandma
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 7:49 pm

    We do 5-6 “big” pageants a year. The rest of the time we do local pageants, some glitz, some natural, to keep her “in practice”. At the local ones, she often competes against a child who could, frankly, be her twin. It always comes down to which kid is having a better day. But (and wait for it, because this might be an astounding revelation), honestly, they don’t care! Of course they are happy if they win, but they have learned to be happy for their friend if it’s just not their day.

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    Pageant-grandma
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 8:00 pm

    Maryedith– 3×10 didn’t equal 29.9. And trust me, pageant scoresheets are confusing to those of us in the hobby, so I am sure that quantum physics makes more sense to a t&t viewer. Someone else pointed out that those 3 10′s were correctly totaled as 30. But there were 2 other judges (who apparently noticed her colossal screw up during beauty)whose scoresheets were stapled to the sheet Maria showed. The average of those came out to that 29.9 that was written on the sheet.

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    maryedith
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 8:12 pm

    I did wonder why the focus was so much on that one judge’s opinion. The other two kept looking at her like, “That’s what YOU say.” And it was that judge who was going on and on about the coaching. She also said it “didn’t matter” about the feet. And that annoyed me. I mean, are you supposed to have “pretty feet” or not, dammit? I don’t like the “hearing from the judges” part. It’s really fake.

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    Crabbyfan
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 8:12 pm

    That’s too bad! Does anyone remember that family from WAY back episode… Cealy (Sealy) and her mom Stephanie. That episode is still in my tivo. That was a great family… told it like was. Not many of those anymore.
    “Do other people think what I do is wrong? Probably… Do I care, No”

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    Angela
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 8:45 pm

    Maybe this is just me being an uninformed non-parent, but isn’t it not so much a good thing to take a four year old to a chiropractor??? That just does not seem good for growing bones.

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    Pageant-grandma
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 9:26 pm

    Crabbyfan– the unfortunate fact is that normal families, with normal kids who love this admittedly slightly abnormal hobby, are, from a tv perspective, wholly uninteresting, and therefore, they don’t want us. Think about any other hobby/sport//activity that kids do, and parents get unnaturally caught up In. From the viewer perspective, I wouldn’t want to watch our family. If I want to see happy and relatively normal, our own home movies are cheaper. Let’s face it– 99% of people who watch t&t do not do so because they like pageants. Especially the last 2 seasons, they watch because, like a trainwreck, you just can’t help it.

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    Stephanie
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 10:20 pm

    Just me, who is your daughter? And why are you dreading this?

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    Stephanie
    Posted May 3, 2012 at 10:25 pm

    Fancyface – Berkeley’s dress was still awful but it looks like they also discovered the SHAMBROW in that house… Which made me happy! Berkeley isn’t as hairy as a monkey anymore!

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    Flalady
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 6:56 am

    So I was right! Kylie did say “I kicked some ass.”. Under no circumstances is this appropriate language for a 5 year old. If I had said that, even into my teens, I would have found my mouth full of soap.

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    Pat Ledoux
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 7:04 am

    Most beautiful- Tied between I don’t remember and hairy Berkley? (sp?) Seriously? I thought Kylie was beautiful, no way Berkley could beat her there, so maybe the score sheets were screwed up after all, jes saying….

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    Ms Cool
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 8:48 am

    Does anyone know what place Sienna came in at that pageant last year?

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    confusedinCanada
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 8:59 am

    I just love the “stage-presence of a bent staple” now I have to go clean my screen from the Tim’s Horton donut dots on it. I should know better then to eat or drink when I’m reading these comments.

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    confusedinCanada
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 8:59 am

    Some of these mom’s, agents, and grandma’s (not pointing fingers at you Pageant-grandma so please don’t take offense here) but these shows remind me of when I used to show cats, which I did for 12 years me of how we used to get up at 4 or 5 am, bath and groom a cat for the show that day or weekend (sometimes we were up again on the Sunday doing it all over again), then we would get to the show hall, set up the cage for them (some of the cat people had glitzed their cage covers out more than those $3,000 dresses were done. We would then put the cat/kitten in there with enough food and water to hold them. Some breeds of cats (I didn’t have those breeds) were feed 1 teaspoon, yes a tsp. of wet food 2x a day for a month other-wise they would get fat and you couldn’t have that. Some breeds were given a bib to wear to prevent them from getting dirty. Me, I was lazy I would bath and blow dry the cats in the morning and then pack up my non-fancy glitz curtains and go and have fun. It was fun at first but then the “show moms” came out and would be so mean to you and to newbies. They would trash talk the others cats, open the cage so your cat would get out (happened to me at a show in Seattle). I made some great friends in the cat show world and made some frienamies as well.

    We would watch the judge take the cat out of the row of cages, flip it, maul it and put it back in, then move on to the next one. People would come running up on last call with combs in their mouths and spray bottles for the cats coats with them. We would sit there with excitement and anticipation to see who would get the top ring billing as all the points would count towards the XXL pizza. We had a couple of judges that would do both types of ring, an all-breed ring in which all cats whether it’s short or longhair were judged together and then a specialty ring in which the long and shorthairs were grouped and then judged. We might final high in the all-breed ring in the morning and then get dumped in the afternoon. I didn’t care this was for fun and the judges knew it. You weren’t supposed to know which person owned which cat or talk to the judges before the judging. BS on that, it was just a cat show. I had a couple of people come up to me when we were dumped in the afternoon and ask us if we were mad, nope we would say it’s nice to see some other cat get that reward. Then the final judging numbers would be posted on top of the cages, you would go up and see if you made it. If you did then you got a rosette and maybe a cat toy. Yup that’s it no money or nothing. If you pulled at the end of the show for best cat in any of the divisions you got a bigger rosette and no money.

    The average show per cat would cost about $50 to enter and for your benching area, it was done just for fun.

    I think I watch this show to remember why I stopped showing cats. The competitiveness of the others was just too much for me to handle as the years went on a new breed of “show moms” emerged and they were mean and nasty. This was supposed to be fun, I could afford to do it without breaking the bank, taking a second loan out, hiding outfits and not letting my other half know the cost of something. I had camera’s and photographers in my face at more than one occasion and really never liked that part of it. 15 minutes of fame, please I was on the news as a sideline story and in the newspaper as a sideline story big deal. I was more happy not to be and finally got a family member to go and talk about the cats I had. My cats were my babies and the kittens they had were not to be given away at a show as random prizes, they were all fixed before they left us to go to their new homes, people were screen and had to have references before they bought a kitten from me. They not disposal income for me, the litter didn’t sell then they stayed with me until they passed away of old age or someone came that wanted an older cat and had good reference. Do these breeders care when their puppies are going to, wait a sec I have to hit my head against a wall until I remember they don’t cause they are from puppy mills more than likely.

    Thanks for letting me vent.

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    Pageant-grandma
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 9:00 am

    Cealy’s family get a lot of points from me. Cealy genuinely loves to compete, and mom was great when she got upset that she “didn’t win”, pointing out that she got overall outfit of choice which is something she’d never won before (cealy’s strength is normally beauty, which is unusual– most kids prefer the more upbeat events). It’s nice to see families like that on occasion, but I get why tlc doesn’t show them often. It’s refreshing every now and then, but certainly doesn’t make for good ratings.

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    confusedinCanada
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 9:08 am

    You do realize that now you’re out of closet as a “normal person” those nut case moms are going to be gunning for you. It’s like your dragging the “sport” down to a level of fun, shame on you, it’s high life and death stakes here. Did I just type that with a straight face I think not LMAO I’m glad you’re in it for fun.

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    Flalady
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 11:10 am

    Instead of showing cats and dogs, people are showing their kids! Sit Susie sit! Roll over!

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    Moli Moli
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 11:23 am

    hahahahahaha

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    snowshoecat snowshoecat
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 11:38 am

    You had to know, Canadian, that I couldn’t resist a comment, didn’t you? I happen to be a gorgeous grey long-haired tabby *hair flip* and cannot IMAGINE anybody hitting me with a spray from a bottle to groom me. Of course I couldn’t imagine slathering a child’s perfect skin with makeup, either.

    Anyway, seriously, I loved your analogy. We have always likened T&T to dog shows, but cat shows are the same. In fact, any gathering of enthusiasts from beauty pageants (human or otherwise) to craft or car shows– whatever– has sane people doing it for fun and the flat-out nutcases. T&T showcases the nutjobs, but there are more of them, I truly believe, than the nice normal ones, especially in glitz pageants above the local levels. If there is a way to get attention, however negative, people will fight to be first in line.

    (Flalady hit it on the head.) Thank you for your great analogy Canada!

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    Pageant-grandma
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 12:00 pm

    You’re welcome. I do my best. Every time they show paisley at the end of the trailers, I can’t help but think that she looks like she died a little inside. I mean, she really is very cute, and she cracked ms up in her interviews– she might actually do well in commercial work, but not with the freak-show “representing” her. I actually kinda liked Wendy in the first episode– I mean, clearly she had boarded the crazy train just short of the stop at delusional station, but at least paisley’s outfits were appropriate and I had to give her points for admitting that it was her hobby, not necessarily paisley’s. Now, she just scares the crap outta me, in a stepford wives kinda way.

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    StageMom
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 12:00 pm

    But at a dog show you could go up and tell a contestants mom that she’s a bitch and it wouldn’t be up for debate.

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    Pageant-grandma
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 12:13 pm

    Lol! Right? I actually get quite annoyed when people call it a “sport”. It’s not. Definitely some of the older girls have definite athletic ability, and it shows, especially in outfit of choice routines, but there is nothing athletic in the beauty event, which (as we’re reminded of constantly on these shows) is the most important event. My 90-yr old grandma moves faster when she’s mall walking, and if the kid breaks a sweat it’s because she’s either baking under the hairpiece or the disco-ball (er.. Dress) she’s wearing weighs 20 lbs. Sure, we want my granddaughter to win, but when there is 1 top title and 100 contestants, odds are, sometimes she won’t. We know that, and she knows that. So we focus on whether she is having a good time, and if she feels she did her best. And if she ever pulled an attitude like some of these girls, she’d never do another one.

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    Pageant-grandma
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 12:44 pm

    In the baby divisions, they really are. Mind you, some babies really like all the activity and attention, and since babies don’t normally wear hair, or more than extremely limited makeup, and don’t have the slightest clue about competition, etc, I guess if the baby is happy, knock yourself out. Toddlers and up, though, are different– some kids love it, some don’t. Some kids love the onstage part but find the prep for glitz torturous. And until about 4, at least, it is definitely mom’s hobby, not the kid’s. And if the kid enjoys it, that’s FINE! But don’t tell me your 2 year old is fiercely competitive, or that your 15 month old (samijo, first episode) would be devastated if she didn’t supreme. It’s just not true, and you know it. And if your kid has a meltdown EVERY time in hair/makeup, or has to be bribed to practice, or will ever have to watch you throw a tantrum because she didn’t place as high as you’d hoped— Please, please find a new hobby.

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    Pageant-grandma
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 12:49 pm

    Berkley’s mom seems to have a weird affinity for dressing her child in spray-tan-beige. The kid has at least one other outfit that same god-awful color.

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    Pageant-grandma
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 1:05 pm

    The one difference is, I have never seen a cat who actually enjoys a cat show. Some kids do like pageants, and some dogs like dog shows, but the cats always seemed pretty universally stressed out. The rest of it was pretty spot on.

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    MrsRogerSterling
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 1:05 pm

    What goes through these people’s minds when they name their kids? Latrina (one letter away from being named after a Port-a-Potty) names her son Exavier. Why the E????????

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    Pageant-grandma
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 1:10 pm

    There really are more at-least-mostly-normal kids/parents than there are nutjobs, but you will rarely see them on t&t because (a) it’s boring and (b), being normal, most of wouldn’t sign up to be filmed in the first place. I have to admit I find the nutjobs entertaining, and I can’t wait to see the trainwreck next week is bound to be– that can’t possibly end well.

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    snowshoecat snowshoecat
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 1:18 pm

    Jamie, is that you? We’ve missed you!

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    ConfusedinCanada
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 1:21 pm

    My dear and wonderful snowshoecat ( did you know at one time there was a man made breed of domestic feline they were trying to introduce in the show world that was called the Snow Shoe, dead serious there was and might still be). I think we are sister from a different mister LOL, I was waiting for you to comment as we think alike and that’s scary. I’m glad I could finally put into words what I was thinking all along. If you’re here ever in Canada let me know and we can get together, watch an episode and laugh ourselves silly.
    You know what? I’ve never been to chucky cheese(sp?) or build a bear. OMG I’m so deprived…….If I throw a temper tantrum here at work do you think my boss will take me there to make me happy? ;-)

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    ConfusedinCanada
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 2:04 pm

    PG, I actually had cats that loved it; Rio, Max and Princess White Paw (I think that name should be given to one of the kids on the show LOL) were the worst hams around especially Rio. He would pose when he saw a camera coming then look at the person like did you get my best side, did you get that shot then pose again. Max was 20lbs of pure muscle (he was a rescue baby from the middle section of a super busy highway/street where I live and I got him in the middle of a rain storm at 3 months old) and was the gentlest cat there was. He reminded me of a lot of those kids that really enjoy the show. I swore I would never show a cat that didn’t like it and I didn’t. They may have been the most perfect (according to the bred standard) cat that I could produce but if they didn’t like the bathing, blow drying or the crate to travel in, they never made it to the show. Again I was lucky mine were great. Kind of like not having a kid that has a temper tantrum before getting there while they were there. I was asked to take a friend cat to an out of town show once as she doing really well and the owner couldn’t go, this cat was a bitch and after one ring I pulled her from it. She didn’t want to be there and I didn’t want her there as well. My friend was a little put out that she spent the money and I didn’t show her but as I told her, she’s not happy I’m not happy and I refuse to put myself at risk from teeth and claws. I’m allergic to cat bites and that would mean a trip to the dr for an IV of antibiotics so having a nasty or stressed out cat at any time near me was not a good idea.

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    snowshoecat snowshoecat
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 2:20 pm

    O Canada! Thank you for the compliment. I live a few hours from Thunder Bay. Who knows? I googled myself and found quite a few sites devoted to the snow shoe cat. My name comes from having six toes on each paw– kind of Hemingwayesque. And handy in the snow.

    I have never been to either place, and since my idea of a fun time does not involve children (never could figure out why I should pay a sitter only to sit in a restaurant next to someone else’s screaming monster) I don’t think either place is in my future.

    That mental picture of a work-site tantrum makes me giggle! Good luck with that! Let us know!!!

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    ConfusedinCanada
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 2:36 pm

    Has anyone read that story in the news about that tan crazy mom that put her daughter in a tanning bed, OMG I can see some of these mom’s doing that.

    It’s sad when something that probably started as fun turned into something so ugly. When I first heard of T&T I refused to watch it as I thought they were serious about these pageants, then I watched one on YouTube and burst out laughing, then I found this board and have been happily reading Wonderful Crabby’s reviews and others on here in the closet until recently.

    It’s a shame that those parents that really do this for fun and an entertainment/learning/building confidence up in their children have to be grouped together with those well for a lack of a nicer term (and I’m not in a nice type of mood) seriously mental unbalanced parents. Some of the parents they show on there are ones I wish I could have had.

    Physical beauty isn’t everything and even Vogue is changing their policy against those so super skinny models as well as the underage models. Children are so special and should be adored not only on how they look but on their personalities and attitudes.

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    ConfusedinCanada
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 2:36 pm

    Well said

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    StageMom
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    How do you know a cat enjoys anything? Mine just sits around looking angry all day.

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    snowshoecat snowshoecat
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    Stagey, Well DUH! Stop pretending you are the boss. Dogs have owners, cats have staff.

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    Chicken Lips
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    @StageMom Bazinga!

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    Chicken Lips
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 4:07 pm

    I couldn’t believe that the one mother (I can’t remember which one) described the judges as “the grandma judge, the pretty judge, the blond haired judge”. If I was the “grandma judge” (which I’m not), I’d be glad that I left my Jitterbug Calculator at home so her kid didn’t win.

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    Pageant-grandma
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 4:26 pm

    I am really hoping that “grandma judge” bore a strong resemblance to the contestant’s actual grandmother?

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    BedHeadJen
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 4:43 pm

    Happy May 4th everybody. May is the 5th month and today is the 4th day.
    Sienna who is 5, came in 4th last year.

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    Moli Moli
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 5:40 pm

    Excellent answer@snow

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    Moli Moli
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 5:42 pm

    Teehee, I wasn’t sure where she placed last year.

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    Tara
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 7:29 pm

    Afterwards, Sienna’s mom was upset because she “didn’t place!” What exactly does she think placing means?

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    Posted May 4, 2012 at 7:58 pm

    Hey Snowshoe, I have relatives in that area OMG we could be related LOL, I’m about an hour from Calgary.

    have to try it on Monday and see what happens LOL, of course on Tueday I could be applying for EI.

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    Posted May 4, 2012 at 7:59 pm

    cc

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    Posted May 4, 2012 at 8:00 pm

    Well Stagemom the purring usually gave it away that they were enjoying it. The hissing fit said not good. I kind of equal that to a major screaming match when these kids get their make up on, of course I never got eye lash glue in any of my cats eyes.

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    Pageant-grandma
    Posted May 5, 2012 at 1:02 am

    It helps if you happen ro be one of the normal parents, or in my case, grandparents, whose kids (grandkids) actually enjoy it, AND you can laugh at the crazies, and the hobby in general when warranted. We are actually doing (no, we’re not being followed) a pageant tomorrow that is being filmed. We did one other, and managed to largely avoid the cameras (gd was shown once, and I caught the odd sighting of the back of my head) so hopefully we will have the same luck this time, and maybe I’ll have some good “inside info” when it airs. I honestly have only seen one kiddo who was really done an enormous disservice during editing, but her mom is plum crazy and the kid is too young to know anyway. I’ve said I rarely watch the show, and it’s true, although having spent the better part of the drive today reading all of the old recaps, I think I need to go back and watch. :-)

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    Pageant-grandma
    Posted May 5, 2012 at 1:13 am

    Apparently sienna’s mom is just confused in general. She kept saying she got 4th runner up, but apparently she actually got 4th place. 4th runner up is really 5th place ( unless someone pulled out for a supreme with cheese, and then that changes). Christ on a bicycle, I wish these directors would create some universal lingo for the titles! Princess is usually bad, but occasionally it’s good, queen is a win, but you lose, and then systems like storybook have to go and throw numbers in the mix and expect these moms who’ve signed up to be followed hoping their kid will become the next Eden or makenzie (and, really, who would WANT either?!) to COUNT?!

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    snowshoecat snowshoecat
    Posted May 5, 2012 at 5:22 am

    Sorry, but you KNOW the truth, don’t you? Keep hoping, though.

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    Flalady
    Posted May 5, 2012 at 6:00 am

    I forgot, where did Sienna place last year?

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    Chicken Lips
    Posted May 5, 2012 at 8:04 am

    Hmm…I’m sorry I don’t know. My .45 second search on Google didn’t turn anything up. Maybe one of our comment friends know.

    She did such a good job of emulating all of her mother’s moves, I’m sure she got queen of the division or perhaps the Super Duper Supreme with extra cheese and pepperoni.

    Me? Delusional? Nah.

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    snowshoecat snowshoecat
    Posted May 5, 2012 at 8:20 am

    Chickie, cynical, yes. Delusional, nevah!

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    AmyOops AmyOops
    Posted May 5, 2012 at 1:34 pm

    @Canada: Good for you! Many cats do enjoy being shown off. As I think a lot of the Gasmii know by now I’ve been in the animal health industry for two decades, and I love hearing of responsible breeders…you work to IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF YOUR BREED according to the breed standard (be it dogs, cats, horses, et al) and not to make money. Grrr.

    Cat shows are awesome (even though I’m totally a doggie girl) because spayed and neutered kitties can compete. At least dogs that have been can do obedience and non conformation activities.

    Did I miss which breed or breeds you worked with or did you not mention it? I think my favourite breed is the Burmese. We have a five month old that was just neutered at my work and he was a DOLL. I love to visit cats…I just don’t wanna live there :-)

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    Pageant-grandma
    Posted May 5, 2012 at 6:11 pm

    And, replying to myself– no idea when this will air, but dearCrabby, you will have a LOT of fun with this one. Just sayin.

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    Posted May 6, 2012 at 2:30 pm

    @AmyOops

    Thanks so much, no kitten left the house without being spayed or neutered, will their shots and a full health guarantee. All could come back to us at anytime and a couple need when the owners moved and decided not to take their so called “babies” with them. They came home and have a great life.

    You asked what I bred, American Curls and Scottish Folds. As you know the folds can have major health problems if not bred correctly, heathforce the breeding was so important and never bred a fold to a fold.

    I agree at least at a cat show you can show off any of your babies.

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    confusedinCanada
    Posted May 7, 2012 at 6:17 am

    @Pageant-grandma
    How did the show go that you were doing?

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    Washcloth
    Posted May 7, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    @pageant-grandma…do we know you? Why are you all haten on the gold so much? Wait until you see our new dress, you’re gonna loathe it too. Enjoy :)

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    Pageant-grandma
    Posted May 8, 2012 at 6:42 pm

    Not hating on the gold at all– but I think berkely would look better in a brighter color– with her thick dark hair (women will be envying that hair forever), and her coloring, she could rock more daring colors, that the blue-eyed-blondes can’t pull off

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