Real Housewives of DC: Catch Me If You Can!

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   msjacqmills
   Posted October 5, 2010 at 3:18 pm

   “If God has a sense of humor this guy will write back, “OMG! That’s amazing! And just in time – I’m getting married to my lover this weekend! You should come to our wedding!”

   Bbitz – you are my hero for that line! Back to reading….

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   thiajok
   Posted October 5, 2010 at 3:18 pm

   “Over with Stacie and Jason, she’s writing a Facebook message to her step-brother that has no idea she exists. She should just “poke” him and see what happens. Or post “Guess what has two thumbs and a half-black half-sister? You do!” on his wall. If God has a sense of humor this guy will write back, “OMG! That’s amazing! And just in time – I’m getting married to my lover this weekend! You should come to our wedding!”

   Instead they write some shady message, “You will not BELIEVE the mutual acquaintance we share!” That totally sounds like something a spammer would write.”

   LOLOLOLOL! That does sound like a spam post. She should put some obscure link right behind that.

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   thiajok
   Posted October 5, 2010 at 3:32 pm

   I love to read many of the recaps on TVGasm, but you and Flipit have the same “Go for the jugular” sense of humor that I have. Wonderful recap!

   I’m so glad I don’t have to watch this show. I made a promise to Miss Cohen that I wouldn’t watch any of the housewives’ shows again if Kelly stayed on NYC and the Salamis were allowed on D.C. So thanks to TVGasm for helping me to keep my promise.

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   marijai
   Posted October 5, 2010 at 4:12 pm

   I still haven’t gotten to see this episode yet! Grrr!!!

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   Bionic Television
   Posted October 5, 2010 at 4:15 pm

   OMG DROP DEAD GORGEOUS??! OMG

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   Bionic Television
   Posted October 5, 2010 at 4:30 pm

   PS: “My mom gave me this 9mm for my 13th birthday. I’ll always remember what she wrote in the card: ‘Jesus loves winners.’”

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   Bionic Television
   Posted October 5, 2010 at 4:37 pm

   Ok just had to chime back in and say the screencap of Lynda, Mary & Cat at lunch is PRICELESS. A BOX OF FRANZIA! BBitz, you’re a genius.

   I’ll shut up now

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   kenzie1991
   Posted October 5, 2010 at 5:42 pm

   I always watch this show and read your reviews but i decided to become an official member! So now my comment is.
   I’m glad it’s over.. Can’t wait for the reunion! Hopefully season 2 gets better.. Cat grew on me. I’m so not into Stacie anymore or her damn troubles, the intro with her in that jr high school prom dress thing from the 80′s is so ugly. I’m most excited for Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, and Atlanta is looking good! Hope you review those too

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   ohralphie
   Posted October 5, 2010 at 5:50 pm

   Love the recap, bbitz!

   I can barely stand Stacie now. The combination of her anti mariage equality plus the way she is stalking her half brother is really off putting. She is coming off as an entitled bitch in the way she will not respect her biomothers request for privacy. And Jason automatically assuming that Stacies half brother must be an racist because he is white is also a bitch move, inmo. I think that there is a reason Jason and Stacie initially liked the Salahis — douches always find each other.

   Still love Lynda, though.

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    Nikki Hughes
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 6:01 pm

    “I happen to notice that confetti and streamers fly out of my mouth sometimes. But that’s only if there’s a sale at Nordstrom’s.”
    oh I just choked on my laughter. ouch. Back to reading…..

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    whoochile
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 6:05 pm

    mother fuckin’ ichiban!!

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    whoochile
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 6:10 pm

    i had PTSD watching Mic. I used to have a acquaintance like her. This woman lied constantly, about big things, about little things, it didn’t matter. The problem when you catch someone like this in the lie, it doesn’t matter because they believe the lie is the truth. You can’t win because they whole-heartedly believe their lies. Whack-a-doodle

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    marijai
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 6:18 pm

    Great recap Bbitz! I didn’t get the comment at all that polo is the only sport that brings the US and India together…uhhh…has he never heard of soccer? I would think that would be the more popular sport tie. After all, you do not see many 4 year olds signing up for polo.

    Stacie is wrong for reaching out to her half-brother. He knows nothing about her or her situation, why would she think he has any information? Is she just doing it to hurt her birth mother and get back at her for not telling her who her father is? I don’t think mom knows who daddy is and the guy in the picture is a possibility. There was still a lot of free love going on in the early 70s.

    I loved Lynda this episode and Ichiban! Oh and when Mary was trying to empathize with Cat about never having any time to herself, raising kids, and Cat said “yeah”…was she implying Mary had nannies or that she had no clue since Rich was around to help?

    Again, great recap!

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    Nikki Hughes
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 6:35 pm

    When they were typing that message, I said out loud, to the tv, “He will never respond to that, it sounds like a spam virus message!!”
    I guess they don’t spend as much time on the Interwebs as we all do.

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    LongtimeLurker
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 6:57 pm

    Guess we’re screwed now since the Salami’s Polo Cup has filed for bankruptcy. What on EARTH will we do about India-US relations now??

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    tvaholic
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 7:36 pm

    Awesome recap bBitz! Did anyone else read the Jezabel article on the Salamis? I first saw it on a different site, but I think PCheez posted it in the forums. supposedly, India didn’t want to participate in the polo match-not sure if it’s true or not, but they said Pakistanis were recruited to stand in for the Indians.

    I’m surprised they haven’t been called in yet to broker peace in the Middle East. Oh wait, I’m sure they have, it’s just “confidential.” Kristen Wiig so needs to do a Penelope (the compulsive liar/one-upper)sketch, going up against Mic!

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    bBitz
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 8:40 pm

    Yeah!!! Bionic for the win! If any of you have not seen “Drop, Dead Gorgeous” – that’s your homework.

    Thanks for all your comments/compliments everyone!

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    RealityCheck
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 11:12 pm

    bBitz – the recap rocked!!! I just about feel in the floor when Mic said she was Miss DC…is she so delusional that she doesn’t understand that there is an actual Miss DC! She is now offically swimming in the crazy pool with Kelly and Danielle!!!

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    jan
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 12:05 am

    mother fuckin’ ichiban!!

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    Joy1333
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 5:26 am

    Thanks for the laughs! Great recap!

    “you wouldn’t believe the mutual acquaintance we both share…something a spammer would write” I thought the same thing! Totally ridciulous!

    BTW, I choose sociopath. just sayin’.

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    plasticfantastic
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 7:22 am

    Here’s what I noticed: Lynda is at home with a dress she paid for, and an artist who comes to her home to do her hair, and an assistant who’ll help her dress. Her dime, her payroll. The Allow-mes (rhymes with Salamis) go to a salon, where all their dealings are on credit and both Mic and Take dress at the salon, with Mic getting assistance re her sari from someone who never brags about 3 weeks in India or calling a Social Secretary. And which Social Secretary, at that? Emily Post? She’s dead. Allow-mes are total poseurs.

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    LAC
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 7:35 am

    BBitz – I loves you! Your recap is just funny as shit.

    The “Stillowemes” cannot get off of my TV fast enough. That bitch lied like a rug when she was asked to produce the invite – you can see those eyes darting around faster than that cat clock.

    I still loves the Lynda – she is fascinating to me. I kinda like Mary too, if only because she is a literal drinking game. You take a shot everytime you see her with a drink in her hand. You will be hammered by the 30 minute mark of this show. I do feel a bit for Cat – a marriage unraveling, loneliness. But she does manage to make that feeling curdle when she makes these sweeping generalizations about where she lives or how hard it is to live in a nice house and write a book about herself. Maybe we can have a U.N. delegation check on Cat and her tribulations on their way to Bosnia or some country in Africa.

    Stacie, I dunno about this birth father thing. I guess I understand the pull, just not the methods.

    Love “Drop Dead Gorgeous” – strange and funny mockumentary.

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    Bridget Miller
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 7:44 am

    BBitz: I am going to blow up your mobile home, but let me know when you are holding a beer can so that I can blow it up right at that moment. So the beer can fuse to your hand. How is that for a death threat?

    Also here is a link, from B-side Blog, http://jezebel.com/5655184/salahi-101-a-guide-to-the-lawsuits–lies- outlining all the lies the Salamis have told. Come to find out they have no connection to India and never had a polo event in India.

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    Bridget Miller
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 7:46 am

    @PCheeze: Sorry for reposting the link. Didn’t realize that you posted it in the forums. Just read that in one of the comments. I just got excited to expose more of the Salamis’ lies.

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    Jeanine Schaefer
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 8:16 am

    i haven’t laughed out loud so much in a while…great recap, bbitz! lynda is pretty great, i have to admit. i really didn’t think i was going to like her at first, but she grew on me fast. the salami’s are garbage. personally, i think the sociopath is mr. salami and mic is just too concerned with hugging and jumping up and down to really look into the bullshit he tells her. but then again, the whole redskins cheerleading thing… idk, i guess they’re both fucking insane.
    cat i don’t really have strong feelings for either way. she can be a bitch, but she’s also funny, so i don’t mind her, but i could go without her and never miss her. however, i love mary. she might be a little ditzy at times, but i think that she’s a pretty good woman. as far as these women go, that is.
    stacie ruined it for me with her anti-gay marriage thing. has she not heard of that great thing called separation of church and state? she can think whatever she wants, but to say that “marriage” is only between a man and a woman is bullshit. i however, completely go with lynda on marriage. it really isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. and i didn’t have anyone to take to the cleaners! damn!

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    Bridget Miller
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 9:39 am

    I thought Jason was kind of funny when he was joking about writing in a non-black voice. It seems that Stacie and Jason are very upset that her birth mother was ashamed of having sex with a black man. I think that they are trying to deal with the fact that perhaps- she is also ashamed of having Stacie and I think that they cope with their uncomfortable feelings by making jokes about it. I think that they are hoping that Stacie’s birth mother isn’t really racist and has other reasons for not wanting to give her more information about her father, and that is why they made the joke about her 1/2 brother being scared if they wrote the email in a certain tone. Maybe I am giving them too much credit.

    In general, most people have different voices for different occasions. When I am around my professors and other intelligent people, I talk much differently, than when I am just talking to my classmates or my co-workers. I live on the Eastern Shore of Maryland and you tend to offend or piss people off if you talk in a “high fluentin’ way. While I love to piss people off and find it fun to purposely talk over these people’s heads. It doesn’t make for a
    happy work place if you can’t or don’t get along with your co-workers. So I understood what Jason was saying.

    But I do think that the 1/2 brother is going to think that the email is a scam especially since so many of those scam emails happen to mention Nigeria.

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    classy drunk
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 10:13 am

    I hate to sound like a defending the Salami’s, but I do not think that them not having the invitation is as big a deal as they are making it out to be. There were probably many people who did not have their invitations, but were truly invited guests.

    Can we get to the real DRAMA please…ugh!

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    skatt
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 10:48 am

    LAC: I also love that whenever she has to think on her feet (or just think), her mouth hangs wide open like it’s stuck and/or frozen that way.

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    Bahu Rupiya
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 11:55 am

    Hmmm. Maybe we’ve been had, and Stacie’s not looking for her biodad at all, just utilizing the Bravo face time to move up the MLM chain and grow her home business distributing 100% Herbal Penis Enlargement Software.

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    LAC
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 12:27 pm

    Skatt – I know! You literally can see the hamster running the wheel in her head stop and gasp for air…

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    Bridget Miller
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 2:23 pm

    I have a very limited experience with White House events and invitations. My father was in the same school as Bill Clinton at Georgetown University. Clinton was in the White House a when the reunion was scheduled, so he offered to host the reunion at the White House.

    We needed our invitations to get into the event. We were instructed to bring our invitation b/c If you didn’t have your invitation then the security wouldn’t even bother to find you on the guest list. The invitation was needed to just get to the security check.

    My father, my mother, and myself all had to have background checks. Clinton wasn’t even there but for 10 or so minutes- he shook some hands, posed for some pictures and gave a quick speech. But the security was pretty serious, so I am still baffled how the Salamis could sneak into the party.

    I could see how the male Salami could think that he didn’t need an invitation because there is a master list of people who are invited, and that list is going to matter more than who has an invitation. When you watch him talk about not needing an invitation- his body language completely betrays him and it is easy to see that he is lying about ever having received an invitation.

    Also the Salamis say that they were emailed an invitation and then they claim to have lost the invitation. I also love how Missy tried to cover her tracks when she comes back from the car without the invitation. She kind of wanders around and pretends to not remember why she just went out to the car less than 2 minutes ago. The producer has to remind her that the hairdresser asked to see the invitation and that Missy then went out to the car to get it. Even after that very clear and concise explanation- Missy still acts like she is confused and doesn’t really think the hairdresser asked to see the invitation.

    But then the producers brings it right back up- asking are you going to get the invitation, are you going to find it? She clearly has no response and wants to just gloss over the fact of the missing invitation. It isn’t missing. They never got one in the first place.

    I think that there was so much focus on the invitation and if they needed one in the first place because there are people who claim that they were never invited because of the lack of invitation. The Salamis claim that, “uh huh, we were invited, we just didn’t get an invitation to the event, but you don’t need an invitation for an event.” They are some self entitled, delusional douchenozzles. When the male Salami was explaining the event and invitation he could not have sounded any more smug and self important. Gross.

    Also there are two stories about the invitation: one they never got one, it was emailed to them, or they got one but it was lost. So which one is it? I think that if they had really been invited then they wouldn’t have created so many different stories about the invitation. They would be secure in the knowledge that they were invited and just stood by that fact.

    They completely fabricated this as way to show off their elite status in Washington society. To showoff how wonderful and fabulous and powerful they are. Basically, they wanted to be the belle of the ball and it blew up in their faces. I love when Missy asks if Obama is going to remember when they worked with him on Rock the Vote. She is so sad and pathetic and clinging to anything that makes her feel like she matters. She is completely focused on the wrong thing- a person’s worth comes from their actions, not if you know a certain person. I LOATHE THE SALAMIS.

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    skatt
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 2:35 pm

    Bridget: They had nothing to do with the Rock The Vote event. It was, according to Reliable Sources.com, another one of their saddling up to someone at an event (this time, then Sen. Obama) and using the resulting picture to claim they “hosted” the event. Once again, they used the wine connection to get themselves in.

    I will say, that’s their one intelligent and consistent move. Nothing will get you “in” faster than: “WE WILL BRING BOOZE.” Credit where credit is due.

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    tvaholic
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 2:58 pm

    Bridget-I forgot how much I love the word “douchenozzle”

    skatt-now I know why my friends let me in, I usually have a bottle of wine with me! But alas, it’s not Oasis wine. Although I’m sure there’s none left since they’ve been robbing the cellar for years.

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    kdfinjpn
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 3:04 pm

    Bbitz – when I saw the screencap of Mic after she had her makeup done, I was thinking “I’m ready for my close up, Mr. DeMille”! Psychopath, sociopath, whatever – you nailed it!!! Great recap!

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    Savannah
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 3:16 pm

    I know I haven’t posted about this Goat Rodeo in awhile–mostly cause I’ve had nothing to say–but I gotta hand it to you BBitz–that was the funniest recap I have ever read in my life!!!!!!!

    The first paragraph, with the not-so-subtle reference to slavery was spot on–I was dying. But by far THE funniest part of the recap was when BBitz suggested what Jason should say to Stacie’s half (not step, Stacie, half) brother should he call. That was just hilarious.

    Someone else also commented on the “talking gay” with confetti and streamers in reaction to sales at Nordstrom’s, which is priceless. And the screen grab of Catch Me If You Can? Too funny.

    I also love the fact that you constantly bring attention to Paul’s hair, because it is in fact so aesthetically offensive, yet it would have flown under my radar had it not been pointed out. Can’t Ted and Jason have an intervention for him or something??

    Ah-ha-ha and GREAT job BBitz for calling out Lolly on confusing The Declaration of Independence with the Constitution. The second she said it on TV, I said to myself, ‘that ain’t right,’ and I am SO glad someone else caught that. And, um, most of Lolly’s friends are gay? I think you may have been onto something a few weeks ago when you mentioned her husky voice and wide shoulders…

    Wow, I really thought this show was going to be about social climbing and “proximity to power.” I never thought it would get political, but I guess that’s appropriate given that it’s DC and all. It’s sort of a shame, because these political issues, such as healthcare and gay marriage, are so divisive. I noticed most everyone seemed to bash Stacie and Jason for their opinions on gay marriage (they didn’t even really express an opinion; she said she was ‘torn’). I just want to shout-out to anyone out there who does not believe in gay marriage, who may have been too intimidated by the response of this board to air their feelings. While I have nothing against gays–hello, BBitz is the man!–and I do believe in equal rights for all Americans, I do not believe in gay marriage and I think people like me and Stacie have just as much as a right to express our opinion as people like Cat and Lynda. It’s not personal. There are ways of getting hospital visits, property rights, children etc. without marriage. And, just to set the record straight, there is absolutely nothing in the Constitution referring to separation of church and state, nor is that what the Founding Fathers intended.
    Rant over

    I still hate Teresa!

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    Bridget Miller
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 4:35 pm

    @Savannah: I completely agree that everyone should have the right to voice their own opinion. What I admired about Jason & Stacie is that that seem to be questioning their belief that marriage is between a man and woman. It would take a lot for them to rearrange their faith and their beliefs to support gay marriage, but I think that it could happen because they have an open mind, are asking questions, and are listening to people with different opinions. I hope that you are doing the same- asking questions of yourself, of others and keeping an open mind.

    Also I just wanted to say that I just read two articles on in the New Yorker and the other in the Atlantic about the founding fathers and religion. There have been some recent books written about that vary subject and the articles were talking about the facts/history found in the those books. And what most historians have found is that the founding fathers had a huge distrust of organized religion and in fact were very concerned about the separation of church and state. Most of the them had seen the damage that mixing of organized religion and government did to the state and the people of both France and England. The American colonies were started by people that were fleeing from religious prosecution and the founding fathers wanted to make sure that would not happen in America. The Founding Fathers, as were many of the other leaders at the time were afraid of organized religion and the harm that it has the potential to cause. So that statement was false.

    I really don’t want to open up a huge discussion about gay marriage on this forum because we have so nicely gotten back to a discussion board the focuses on the show, but I just had to correct that one point because I just don’t like for false information to be spread. My thoughts on about what the Founding Fathers did or did not intend- is that who the fuck cares what they wanted- that sounds reactionary, but it is a perspective that people need to have. They had no idea what the future was going to hold for this country, so much has changed since then and our government needs to change with it. I am all for learning from history, honoring our past, having a stable foundation for our government that is founded on our Constitution and Bill of Rights. But trying to apply those documents to our current society based on what the Founding Fathers wanted, is a waste of time and allows for people to make excuses for why certain laws haven’t been passed or have been passed. Gays can’t marry because that isn’t what the founding fathers wanted or there shouldn’t be separation of church and state because that isn’t what they intended. Church and state should be separated because then equal rights are given and ensured for everyone. Our country was founded mainly on that one principal- freedom and equality for everyone- everyone should be given the same rights.

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    Bridget Miller
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 4:48 pm

    And while the phrase separation of church and state does not appear in the Constitution- Jefferson did write the 1st Amendment should erect a wall of separation between church and state. The 1st Amendment not only prevents the establishment of a national religion, but it also prohibits government aid to any religion, even on an non-preferential basis, as well as protecting the right of the individual to choose to worship, or not, as he or she sees fit. All individuals should be protected from the faith and beliefs of others, so laws should not reflect a certain religious belief, but should be based on the fact that every human being has intrinsic worth and if a law or a right is given to one group then we should all have it. If gays can’t marry then I say that we out law marriage.

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    Pixielated
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 4:59 pm

    Word, Bridget. Benjamin Franklin was openly hostile to religion, and the way he lived his life was hardly following the Christian tenets. Besides, many, MANY cases involving the separation of church and state have been heard by the Supreme Court and the rulings have kept them separate. Therefore, it IS the LAW. Just like abortion rights: many people do not believe they are guaranteed by the Constitution, but the Supreme Court said that they were (up to a certain trimester), in Roe vs. Wade, so it is the law.

    I believe that Tareq is sociopathic, but Michaele seems to me to be delusional. She has jumped on that Tareq bandwagon, and really believes in their alternate version of reality. He can be scary sometimes, so who knows the story behind that.

    As I have stated before, I am totally behind people having their own religious beliefs and practicing and preaching them. However, I draw the line at these people telling everyone else what is right and wrong and how we should act. Just imagine if someone YOU were diametrically opposed to was calling the shots based on a religion. It is not right to make everyone follow religious doctrines that they do not believe in.

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    Pixielated
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 5:01 pm

    P.S. ALL amendments, from the Bill of Rights onward, are PART of the Constitution. Therefore, it DOES have a provision for separation of church and state.

    If the Amendments were not part of the Constitution, slavery and denying the vote to women could be defended before the Supreme Court.

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    Pixielated
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 5:03 pm

    Oh, yeah, and the right to bear arms? Second Amendment. Freedom of Speech and the press? The right to a speedy trial and not to incriminate oneself? Amendments.

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    Savannah
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 5:06 pm

    Wow. @Bridget Miller, I am very impressed by the depth of your knowledge about our country’s history. I am definitely going to have to read those posts more than once to fully appreciate them lol! But what I would like to commend you on more is the cool way you approached the topic–very respectfully, very mature.

    While I believe most, if not all, of the facts you reported to be accurate, there are aspects of your logic and reasoning with which I agree, with which I quibble, and with which I strongly disagree. But, regardless, mad respect.

    I don’t know if this thing has got PMs, but I guess you should PM me if you want to talk further about this or people will start falling asleep while they watch the show AND while they read our comments lol!

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    Savannah
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 5:27 pm

    Pot calling the kettle black alert! Here I just wrote @BridgetMiller that we should stop talking about the Constitution, but then I saw Pixielated’s recent posts and I felt compelled to comment–oops.

    @Pixielated–There is no question that The Bill of Rights and all subsequent amendments are part of the Constitution. The Bill of Rights is actually a list of restrictions on the federal government (which have more recently been applied to the States through the 14th Amendment), so the term Bill of Rights is somewhat misleading…

    You are absolutely right that Congress may not infringe on the right to keep and bear arms, and Congress is prohibited from establishing a religion. But you can read the Constitution forwards, backwards and sideways, and you will not find the phrase “separation of church and state.” BridgetMiller makes a compelling argument regarding whether the Founders (specifically Jefferson)intended for there to be a separation of church and state, but it is a very complicated and open debate, not a constitutional right.

    How bout we all agree to lighten up the topic from here on in…? I’m going to drop it, at least.

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    Prodigal Cheez
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 6:56 pm

    The Salami’s are the social-climbing equivalent of Bittaker and Norris. And Missy is the brains of the folie a deux operation so she’s the Bittaker of that deviant duo.

    The more I watch that wretched wraith of dysfunction, the more creeped out I get. She goes from interviewing in this concise and biting, and very articulate, manner about Mary and Lynda becoming a destructive element in her life to running around looking for her BRA and a WHITE HOUSE INVITE in practically a fugue state. Um… okay. I can understand, I always keep my really important, momentous things with my underpants too – sometimes I even keep them IN my underpants. Oh no, that’s my self-respect – maybe Missy should look in hers to see if she can find any.

    Tareq was practically SLINKING away in the background when Bravo was asking about the invite. What a ridiculous assumption that you wouldn’t need to present an invitation (Thanks @Bridget for the insight on that, BTW! ) to a private event. Oh, did Michelle Obama accidentally email you an invite while she was sending you dirty jokes on her “buddy list”? WTF is wrong with these people??

    I wonder what made Bravo pull back the curtain at that point? This was filmed before any of the really bad stuff started becoming common knowledge – I can NOT wait for tomorrow’s episode.

    I feel like a shit-heel because I liked the storyline about Burkina-Faso so much, but I really didn’t like those dresses. I thought Lynda’s was pretty – but for the styles on the runway the fabric seemed too light and airy to be so structured. Although, I would totally buy a dress in that fabric if it had a sheath cut, or even an A-Line skirt and bodice, because it really was beautiful.

    I though Cat and Chulls were so sweet in that segment when she’s talking about his photograph – it really is sad they couldn’t work it out. Underneath the complicated lifestyle issues, they seem to genuinely like and respect each other. I always wanted to say “dah-ling” without sounding like a pretentious idiot, how come when the British do it sounds natural and sophisticated, and when I do it it sounds like I’m channeling Mildred Pierce?

    I am so against the hair-brained Stacie and Jason scheme of contacting the bio-half-brother. I can’t figure out how they got to the point of thinking that it’s okay to suck someone totally uninvolved and innocent to it.

    I found the meeting with Stella so interesting, it was amazing how she could pull all those threads together from some photographs. One thing I also realized is that the story with Stacie’s mother goes much deeper, and I think Stacie should give her some time to come to terms with it. Stacie’s Ibo name indicates to me that her mother loved her and somehow wanted her to know that, and the fact that she kept those pictures of Stacie’s father seems to indicate that she had very deep feelings for the man. I’m getting the sense that he was a man of some position and privilege, and that may have had something to do with her decision not to tell him about her pregnancy. Also, what Stella said about Ibo men never leaving their children could have been really intimidating to a young woman who didn’t pla in staying in Nigeria indefinitely.

    At any rate, there are some seriously smart people on here – how many sites about reality shows can evolve into a knowledgeable discussion about The Constitution, etc.? I’m blown away…

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    Bahu Rupiya
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 8:17 pm

    Lots of very insightful illustrations of why the implementation of a religious state will usually have better luck being a good fit with a very homogeneous population.

    When there’s a wide diversity in faith traditions, what typically happens is that proponents of a religious state only want one that adheres to the doctrines of THEIR faith!

    That’s where the secular state idea gets a lot of its popularity.

    And as just a cursory click round the internets will attest, even among those who favor a secular state don’t all agree on the concept of equal protection under the law of that secular state, nor even on which groups should have lesser or no protection, or “separate” or a “different kind” of protection!

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    Bahu Rupiya
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 8:26 pm

    Oops! Forgot to add: Another big area of common ground: among secular state proponents who advocate of lesser or no, or different or separate protection under law, almost unanimously favor those “tiered levels” for groups to which they do not belong!

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    Pixielated
    Posted October 7, 2010 at 4:03 am

    I’m gonna say one more thing about separation of church and state. If the government cannot establish a religion, how can it add the precepts of a religion to its laws? Wouldn’t it then be selecting one religion as THE religion of the government? If it, for instance, decided that everyone in the United States should keep Kosher, wouldn’t it be more-or-less establishing Judaism as the national religion? I don’t see how adding precepts of the Christian faith would not be establishing Christianity as the religion of the United States, which would be highly offensive to Jews, Buddhists, Muslims, and atheists. And also me, and I don’t fall into any of those groups.

    OK, I’m done. Hell, I don’t even watch this crazy show.

    And I defend Savannah’s right to believe what she wants to about gay marriage. And I don’t think it makes her a bad person.

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    ohralphie
    Posted October 7, 2010 at 5:22 am

    Amen @Bahu rupiya and @pixielated!

    @savannah – I can and do respect your right, and Stacies right to be against gay marriage. But I also have the right to point out the inconsistencies in that position. You said that it was ‘nothing personal’ and that you want ‘equal rights for all Americans’ yet gay marriage is personal and it is about equal rights for all Americans. The argument of tradition is moot as we as a nation no longer embrace the marital traditions of no possibility of divorce and the expectation of virginity from women. If those ‘traditions’ are shucked off with ease why the problem with gay marriage? If one were honest I believe that those who are against gay marriage are really against (or at least skeeved out by) homosexuality in general. I wish that this debate would get real and people would stop couching it in bogus logic and excuses.

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    Msjacqmills
    Posted October 7, 2010 at 7:58 am

    @Ohralphie….werd…well said.

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    hollagirl2
    Posted October 7, 2010 at 9:21 am

    THANKYOU Ohralphie. I agree.

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    tvaholic
    Posted October 7, 2010 at 9:29 am

    @Bridget@Pixielated-here here! I’d totally vote for you guys. I’m willing to bet you’re better informed than the majority of the douches who are inundating my TV right now with campaign ads.

    And I agree how awesome that this thread has not devolved into a nasty back & forth.

    @ohralpie-totally agree w/your comment #47. I don’t know if it was in comments or the boards, but that was a point I was trying to make as well. We are constantly evolving as a culture, and as people. (Well, most of us are I’d like to think!) This is why Amendments exist. Too many people use the whole argument about what our “Founding Fathers” intended as an argument to fit whatever angle they are working.

    And sorry Savannah-while I totally support your right to “free speech,” the argument about the phrase “seperation of church & state” is just nitpicking. To be fair, the term “right to freedom of speech” doesn’t technically exist either. Yes, I had to look up the exact wording as I didn’t want to blow it, but “Congress shall make no law…abridging the freedom of speech.” I guess all I’m saying is arguing about the semantics is silly when the intent is fully expressed in other ways. To be fair, I also defended the Turners as I know people like them when it comes to this subject, but not because I agree, but because I think they are open to changing their opinion. Again, sorry, I know you wanted to drop it, but I cant resist opening my yap sometimes!

    Eiher way, the Salamis still SUCK!! As do outdated laws!!!

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    chemgal
    Posted October 7, 2010 at 9:38 am

    Well I for one have changed my stance on gay marriage. If I have to go to a wedding and risk getting confetti in my eye simply for talking to the groom, then I am officially against gay marriage.

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    Baxter
    Posted October 7, 2010 at 9:54 am

    Awesome Recap as always!!

    I like Lynda but you can definitely see some bitchiness with the whole photos of the Salami’s. That just seemed really petty. They are in the big leagues breaking into the white house not some measly fashion show. If they wanted to get in they would….picture or not. In fact Mic would end up walking the runway somehow.

    The whole Stacie and the birth mother thing makes me uncomfortable. I understand why she wants to find them but contacting the half brother seems really inappropriate. She is stepping over some real boundaries. Yes it sucks her mom won’t help her and I can’t even imagine how Stacie must feel but it is what it is.

    Cat is tricky. One minute I want to punch her and the next I want to hug her. Her vulnerability in the last few episodes makes her much more likable.

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    Bridget Miller
    Posted October 7, 2010 at 3:35 pm

    More Salami news. These people are so pathetic that it isn’t even fun anymore. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101007/ap_on_en_tv/us_gate_crashers

    Also after watching the latest installment of the Atlanta hos: I am going to add that I STRONGLY DISLIKE/ AND AM DISGUSTED BY KIM & HER DAUGHTER. especially after watching her daughter eat ice cream, talk with a mouth full of ice cream and have Kim just sit there and not say anything. I know that a recapper will be picked that can do the show justice, but I am starting to have a desire to try my hand at writing a housewife recap. Just because I am dying to roast these women and I think that the recaps should stay in our little housewife family, but there is no way that I could write something worthy of this site week after week. Not without the input of everyone’s comments. Anyone else thinking of maybe doing a recap? The 90210 cast looks like they are going to be a delightful train wreck.

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    Bridget Miller
    Posted October 7, 2010 at 4:04 pm

    @ohralphie and @pixelated: in the word of my gay friend who would like to get married. WORD! Excellent points and a reflection of how I feel about the issue of gay marriage. I would like for people to think about how they would feel if they were told that they weren’t allowed to marry. If one day people said that straight people couldn’t marry. It is nothing personal, but we just don’t want you to marry and we don’t agree with your lifestyle. To me the issue is just so black and white- there is a group of people that are being denied the same rights as everyone else. That is wrong. No matter what. I hope it changes soon. But that is enough of that…I think that the discussion going on about this issue is rare b/c no one is name calling, yelling, or being mean and both sides are talking to each other with compassion and an open mind. I wish that other people could do that. Bravo to everyone!

    But the real reason that I came back to write another comment. It isn’t just because I am avoiding studying for my calculus 3 test. Nah couldn’t be. But I wanted to post a link to the latest Reliable Source article about the Salamis – it talks about why the invitation was a big focus of the show- turns out that the Salamis had admitted that they didn’t have an invitation, yet they go on like the do have one. Also it talks about how Bravo messes around with the time line of the show. Anyway it has some good dish in it.

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/reliable-source/2010/10/i_want_to_see_that_invitation.html

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    Robinez
    Posted October 7, 2010 at 5:21 pm

    I am just wondering why Stella’s name was changed to “Effie” in the re-cap. Is the name “Effie” supposed to be funny?

    Robin

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    Pixielated
    Posted October 7, 2010 at 5:32 pm

    @ohralphie, I agree! If you are against gay marriage for religious reasons, just own up to it. It is a legitimate reason. The Constitution is not there to INFRINGE on people’s rights.

    I wonder how much of Stacie’s search for her birth mother, father, and brother is at the behest of the producers? This show is faltering in the ratings, I have heard, and it might add drama. Stacie hasn’t been providing enough of it so far!

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    Robinez
    Posted October 7, 2010 at 5:33 pm

    Another thing..It is conceivable that Stacy’s mom lied to her when she said her father did not know she was pregnant. He could have very well been told and he rebuked her. Or, Stacy’s mom may have been a little loose and the Nigerian Dad knew that there may have been other possible Dad’s.

    TC,Robin

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    ohralphie
    Posted October 7, 2010 at 5:56 pm

    @robinez – exactly. Stacies biodad could be a complete douchebag who tried to force her biomom into an abortion. Or biomom could have been slutting it up and down Nigeria.
    When I was going through the adoption process the social workers warned adoptive parents against romaniticizing the bioparents. It’s important to understand that chances are they are not Romeo and Juliet but rather just people who made a very difficult and ultimately selfless decision and ought to be respected for that.
    I don’t think that Stacie is looking at the situation realistically. I think she was putting her birth parents on pedastals and sadly they are proving to be human beings with their own baggage. I wish that Stacie was going through this search with the help of a therapist who could guide her through it with more realistic expectations.

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    Bionic Television
    Posted October 7, 2010 at 6:36 pm

    @Robinez the “Effie” caption was a joke – Effie is a character from DreamGirls (played by Jennifer Hudson in the 2006 flick…Jennifer Holliday made the role famous on B’way if I’m not mistaken).

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    Bahu Rupiya
    Posted October 7, 2010 at 6:40 pm

    @Pixielated and @ohralphie – As @marijai pointed out in the comments on the previous episode,

    “…There was still a lot of free love going on in the early 70s…”

    I hate it when serious, real life issues get into my Trashy Reality Shows!

    And you’re all about to hate it too, because I am compelled to Hold Forth.

    It’s a classic Ethics 101 Impossible Dilemma Essay Question, the rights of people to know about their bioparents vs the absolute guarantee of secrecy and privacy made to young women and girls who gave babies up for adoption, in a time when the cultural realities with regard to “unwed mothers,” as they were called, indeed, even for sexually active women who escaped fertilization, were extremely different than they are today.

    Sure, I hope Stacie finds her biodad, and that it works out better than it has with her biomom.

    It is, however, very possible that for whatever reason, the photo is just a pic of some random dude, who may or may not have ever hooked up with or met Stacie’s biomom, be from Nigeria, may or may not actually own that hat. For all we know, he could be an accountant from Iowa or somewhere on his way to a costume party.

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    Prodigal Cheez
    Posted October 7, 2010 at 7:15 pm

    @Baxter, I thought the whole thing with Lynda posting guards to keep the Salami’s out was a little over the top too. I think Missy hates them as much as they hate her – and she doesn’t seem to be having any problems generating story lines for herself; reprehensible and tawdry as they are. I liked Lynda at first, but I’ve grown to dislike her – she has a mean edge to her, and I think she’s really fake. She says all the right things, and she presents herself in the right way (for my taste) but she’s vicious.

    Cat’s cutting, but she pretty much puts it right out there and doesn’t seem to mind controversy as long as it doesn’t come in the form of an attack – like Erika did. I tend to be pretty opinionated too, not just on TVgasm but in real life too, so I can relate to it – and I can take negative feedback, but attacks always really piss me off. I think her decision to cut Erika is perfectly fine, and she’s doing it openly so people can decide to pick a side or stay neutral – I see nothing wrong with it at all.

    I think Stacie’s adoption story is pretty interesting, I totally disagree with contacting the half-brother because it’s unethical. He not only doesn’t have any direct relationship to any of this at this point, he doesn’t have any information. What Stacie and Jason are doing is kind of a form of emotional extortion from her bio-mom, IMO. It’s wrong, although I don’t think they see it that way.

    @ohralphie, one of my closest friends and high school/college/post-college sweetheart was adopted. His bio-mom contacted him a few years ago out of the blue, and has thrown his family into chaos. His parents were wonderful, supportive and totally open to him having a relationship with his bio-mom, but I think they are hurt at how much she has really infringed on their relationships with him. I think you are so right about having a therapist when re-attaching or connecting with a bio-family in that context. Whatever the issue Stacie is having is, she doesn’t have the right to demand something from a woman who legally severed her parental connection to her; and who appears to be reluctant about the relationship now. I know it sounds like a cold way to look at it, but people have the right to make that decision if they choose to.

    @Bridget, I think Flipit mentioned that Leia was going to be posting the RHOA recap soon. I have to say I am a huge Leia fan, so I look forward to her recaps. I think you are really talented FWIW – and I think you can submit writing samples to TVgasm for consideration, maybe there’s a list of shows that don’t have writers yet? If you do, I’d love to read your stuff – so keep us posted!! I would love to support a fellow commenter who moves into official writer territory!

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    Robinez
    Posted October 7, 2010 at 8:51 pm

    My brother was adopted. He is 22 and doesn’t know. Talk about a mess. I have been afraid for 22 years that this kid will find out in the worst way. I do not agree with my parent’s decision but it is THEIR decision.And,it must be said,once a parent places a child for adoption they shouldn’t have to be worried about a facebook post.The bio parents should have every right to expect privacy.

    My brother’s parents were in pretty bad shape and because they made a selfless decision to give him up he was able to take advantage of all the things that he may not otherwise been afforded.

    Stacie needs to butt the fuck out of the half brother’s buisiness. She has no right to do this. She has no idea of what kind of harm she can do to someone. It isn’t her place to tell her brother anything. She wants to do what will make her feel good without any regard for anyone else. Her and Jason made me sick when they were laughing and enjoying writing the Facebook message. They are reckless in their disregard for other’s. They have no consideration for what the outcome might be for all involved. As long as it suits them all is good.

    </ Rant

    TC,Robin

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    Remford
    Posted October 7, 2010 at 11:09 pm

    I just can’t believe how concocted the who show seemed surrounding the ticket. How “convenient” was it that every nuance of explaining the lost ticket, including Tar-dick’s dismissal that it wasn’t needed, was captured in agonizing detail… as if say… one might expect to proffer it as some kind of evidence?

    ALL of these women are inane, “important” only to themselves, and even lack the innate, yet misguided, gusto of the orange RHONJ tramps.

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    Bahu Rupiya
    Posted October 8, 2010 at 1:01 am

    @Robinez, I don’t agree with your parents’ decision either. Nor with their decision to place the burden of that knowledge on you, and thus place you in the middle of it.

    Both are choices they will almost surely come to regret.

    Have you considered relocating to a remote village in the Hindu Kush, or maybe one of the smaller islands of Micronesia, just for a few decades, to allow time for the inevitable clusterbomb dénouement to blow over?

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    Robinez
    Posted October 8, 2010 at 1:21 am

    “Have you considered relocating to a remote village in the Hindu Kush, or maybe one of the smaller islands of Micronesia, just for a few decades, to allow time for the inevitable clusterbomb dénouement to blow over?”

    No I haven’t. I don’t haul ass when the going get’s tough. Although I am feeling a little bit of regret for sharing such a personal story here. Sometime’s I need to keep my mouth shut.

    TC,Robin

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    Pixielated
    Posted October 8, 2010 at 2:53 am

    The worst thing about Stacie and Jason is that they seem to be treating it as some kind of prank or practical joke. “Hey, guess who I am? Yeah, we have a mutual friend—OUR MOM!! HAHAHA!!”

    It might not be so much fun for him.

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    Pixielated
    Posted October 8, 2010 at 2:54 am

    Hey, it’s nice to see those good ol’ Atlanta bitches back again, eh? And our lovely Leia.

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    Bridget Miller
    Posted October 8, 2010 at 6:50 am

    @PCheeze: I saw that Leia is recapping RHOA!! I am going over to read that right now. I had a little too much medication* last night which explains me mentioning anything about recapping. *(I had a test to study for. But that is no excuse) Now way could I do it. I was just hoping that there would be someone like Leia taking over the Atlanta show. Carry on.

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    Wolf
    Posted October 8, 2010 at 6:53 am

    OMG you are hilarious!! Love your recaps!!!

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    sarcasatire
    Posted October 8, 2010 at 7:16 am

    Combining the adoption and the gay marriage issue is a superb documentary called We Are Dad. @Bbitz or anyone else curious to learn about the inequality that gays suffer should see this film. It centers around a gay couple, who are nurses in the pediatric HIV ward of a Florida hospital. They decide to foster 3 children from the ward, all Black, and raise them as a family. The state of Florida has no issue with this. However, years later, one of their sons developed anitbodies and became HIV negative. Now, all of a sudden, Florida decides the child is ‘adoptable’ and better off in a more ‘suitable’ family. They deny the couple rights to adopt, although they’d raised the child for almost 15 years. The story shows the couple engaged in the fight of their lives, determined to keep their family together. A great story… I fell in love with this family.

    On another note, being an adopted child is so difficult if you don’t know anything about your bio-parents. Most of us like to identify our traits and quirks with our genetic material; you raise your left eyebrow when amused, just like mom. Or, you have dad’s curly hair or all the men on your dad’s side have red hair and so do you. Now, imagine if you had noone to identify with in this capacity. It would be frustrating for any child so I can see why Stacie wants so much to learn about her dad. I also see her contacting her brother as a ‘psycological F-U’ to the mom for denying her access to her dad. Not the best way to handle it, but who knows..the brother may be delighted to learn he has a sibling..in America, no less!

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    Prodigal Cheez
    Posted October 8, 2010 at 10:00 am

    @Bridget, I was being serious you should submit a sample recap to TVgasm. I would totally read your stuff.

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    Prodigal Cheez
    Posted October 8, 2010 at 10:03 am

    @Robin, I’m glad you shared that story – I think that’s a very difficult situation and it kind of underlines the crux of the issue Stacie is butting up against, it’s the PARENTS choice to handle their personal business any way they want to – like it or not.

    @Pixie – I agree with you 100%.

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    sheesh
    Posted October 8, 2010 at 11:28 am

    @Bahu Rupia “Have you considered relocating to a remote village in the Hindu Kush, or maybe one of the smaller islands of Micronesia, just for a few decades, to allow time for the inevitable clusterbomb dénouement to blow over?”

    I hope that was meant to be funny? It came off as kinda dismissive of Robinez.

    Contacting the brother is definitely a FU! to the mother. It is such a punkass move. Do you think your half-brother has the information of one his mother’s lovers? Really? Really?

    I would crack up if the brother contacts her back. From prison. And his name was Butch with a lovely wife named April.

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    marijai
    Posted October 8, 2010 at 11:50 am

    {{{{Robinez}}}}….hugs! left you a post in the forum!

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    Bahu Rupiya
    Posted October 8, 2010 at 8:45 pm

    @sheesh Yes, of course it was meant to be funny. The situation itself is not funny at all, nor, I’m sorry to say, unique. My intention was not to dismiss Robinez, but on the contrary, to express my disagreement with her parents’ choice without making it about how the story made *me* feel, and acknowledge the metaphorical distance between the circumstances resulting from that choice and the set of things she can control.

    I chose to do the latter in a light-hearted manner because, unlike most of you, my skills at expressing myself are clumsy and very limited, thus I could either say it in a humorous way, which contained the *possibility* that I might make her and/or someone else who might, like me, feel saddened and helpless by it, smile at the dark absurdity of it all, or I could wax maudlin about it, which would *certainly* make her and everybody else, feel worse.

    I usually choose definitely over maybe, but in this case, I chose the maybe.

    @Robinez I think it was brave of you to share it. The internets is a big place. If even one lurker, wrestling with their own choice, happens to read it and gain some perspective of the effects of what they decide to do on their children, you will have done a bigger Good Deed than most of us ever have the privilege of doing.

    Inasmuch as you can, in this case, acknowledging, and then hauling ass from the spectres of anger and helplessness will enable you to focus on the part you can control, which is to work toward forgiving your parents, if you have not yet done so, be there for your brother, whatever happens, and help him forgive them, too.

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    Pixielated
    Posted October 8, 2010 at 9:37 pm

    @Robinez, I can’t imagine how you feel. You are a strong person, and will find your way through it, I am confident.

    Not being an adopted child, it is difficult for me to understand or empathize with their need (and I think for some it is a need) to know their birth parents. Some go so far to call them their “real” parents. I tend to feel impatient and dismissive of them, if they had loving, responsible adoptive families. However, I believe that some of them do feel a need to “belong” to a group that is more like them, even if only in appearance or ethnic background, than their adoptive families. I saw one girl’s story on TV and she told of feeling like an outsider because her appearance and temperament were so unlike anyone in her adoptive family.

    However, I don’t feel that Stacie is doing this for legitimate reasons, or not primarily because of them. The way she is going about it is so cavalier and insensitive.

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    Robinez
    Posted October 8, 2010 at 9:59 pm

    @Bahu Rupiya

    “I chose to do the latter in a light-hearted manner because, unlike most of you, my skills at expressing myself are clumsy and very limited, thus I could either say it in a humorous way, which contained the *possibility* that I might make her and/or someone else who might, like me, feel saddened and helpless by it, smile at the dark absurdity of it all, or I could wax maudlin about it, which would *certainly* make her and everybody else, feel worse.”

    “I usually choose definitely over maybe, but in this case, I chose the maybe.”

    How about this? The next time you are so torn and can’t decide how to respond to someone, step away from the key board. I did think that what I had to say might help someone. And, to be perfectly honest I also wanted to vent because I knew something about it and what Jason and Stacy were doing was deplorable to me.

    Then, along came your post and I have regreted it since.

    As far as forgiving my folks. Are you on something? How dare you assume that my parents need my forgiveness. I know that if I put my business on the street I should expect whatever comes. But that wasn’t neccesary.

    Do me a favor, or not, when you see my post’s please don’t respond. They normally put me to sleep anyway.

    Robin

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    sarcasatire
    Posted October 8, 2010 at 10:21 pm

    @Pixielated: I guess the plus side is that the email Stacie sent to her brother was ambiguous enough for him to remain in the dark about his mother’s past. Plus, the finale said Stacie located her dad through the Nigerian embassy so she now has no reason to contact the brother again.

    From Stacie’s perspective, I can see her indignance, like I am a Harvard graduate and you want to keep ME a secret?! It must be hurtful because children placed for adoption feel ‘unwanted’ and this affects their self-esteem. And since Stacie lost her adoptive mom so young, meeting her bio-parents were probably a dream of hers for years. Atleast, it all ended with her speaking to her dad without having to upset any apple carts.

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    Savannah
    Posted October 9, 2010 at 5:38 am

    @Bahu Rupyla–you are smart and funny–don’t second-guess yourself or sell yourself short! Everyone has naysayers–even Madonna–don’t let it hinder your personal expression please…that is so valuable about this website. I have found that it is very easy to mean one thing, but you write something slightly different, and others may take it the wrong way.

    For example, I earlier made two points that 1.) I do not believe in gay marriage and; 2.) there is no bright-line division between church and state in our society…naturally people thought I was against gay marriage for religious reasons, yet I am entirely secular, not even positive I believe in God. But I think the way I expressed my thoughts led people to believe I was against gay marriage for religious reasons, and that is my own fault, but it’s fine. There is no reason to feel shamed if popular opinion may be against you, because popular opinion is not necessarily the arbiter of truth (see Abraham Lincoln).

    @P Cheeze & Bridget Miller–to the former ITA and to the latter, yes, rant away–there can never be too many ranters, esp. if you are smart and funny, which I am increasingly finding people on these boards are. No pressure though–if you took Adderall to study and found yourself getting big ideas, don’t worry, you are not the first lol

    Okay, I am done being Oprah–can’t wait for BBitz to recap last episode because it is going to be so funny. Also, can’t wait for the Reunion, which, if it is exciting, will be the saving grace of the DC franchise–let’s pray to the (secular) gods that Andy has grown a spine since New Jersey’s reunion!

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    Pixielated
    Posted October 9, 2010 at 8:08 am

    I’m so glad that you haven’t gotten discouraged by people’s reaction to your stance on gay marriage, Savannah. I think we all assumed that your stance was religious because we couldn’t fathom there being any other source for it, at least from what you had written.

    The great thing about this site is that the vast majority of commenters are respectful and things very rarely get personal. I have gotten extremely discouraged with another website because commenters will attack anyone who goes against the grain of what the majority thinks. I think this site is pretty amazing because it is largely unmoderated, but people work things out pretty well.

    I still think you have every right to be against gay marriage, even if I don’t understand why. To me, the religious reasons are easy to understand (not agree with) because religions are basically moral codes that say a lot about sexual behavior. I think you have courage to say what you think while knowing how damned unpopular it will be. Your opinion baffles me, frankly, but you seem like a thoughtful, intelligent person, so I believe that you have reasoning behind it that makes sense to you (and maybe others).

    And @Bahu, humor and sarcasm are much harder to convey in writing than when spoken, unless we resort to “j/k,” “lol,” or whatever. Tone of voice is so important when it comes to humor. I realized you were kidding, and I thought you were expressing sympathy as well.

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    hollagirl2
    Posted October 9, 2010 at 8:49 am

    @Baha, I sensed sympathy in your post as well and understood where your line of thought came from in the response. I am not in Robinez’ position so I have no claim in saying what is the wrong or right thing to say in response to her very personal post here but it didn’t upset the outsider perspective I had. The comment boards have been more sensitive around here after some drama went down and I think you got caught up in the tail end of the calming down on the boards. Please don’t let one person discourage you from expressing your opinion… I think you have a lot of very insightful posts.

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    Kelly Bundy
    Posted October 9, 2010 at 1:05 pm

    You have a lot of anger, Robinez. I feel for you because of your difficult situation and thanks for sharing your story. But come on, chill on Bahu Rupiya.

    You are right: Bahu doesn’t know your life. I mean, how could she? But it’s obvious that she was just trying to make you feel better and that she was coming from a good place. She admits her wording and tone may have been clumsy (I get the feeling that English might not be Bahu’s first language…I make that judgement because I have a lot of foreign friends who are highly educated and proficient in Engish, and they have a similar erudite style of writing…I apologize if I am wrong about this).

    Bahu’s remark about forgiveness was also meant to be kind. If you feel there was a miscommunication and that her point does not actually apply to your story, you should at least realize her aim was true, and explain any discrpanices in a respectful way. She was definitely respectful in addressing you.

    In a way, Robinez, your anger at Bahu for assuming certain things is hypocritical, since at the same time you are assuming that she should know better, and that she should have understood your post in a certain way. Everyone’s perspective and life experience is different. You asking Bahu what she “was on”, your remark that her posts “put you to sleep,” and your command that she not respond to you are hostile remarks and undeservedly low blows. If you find her posts boring you are not obligated to read them. No need to insult somebody who has tried to be an interesting contributor to these comment sections and never made any trouble.

    Sorry for the long didactic post, but there seems to be a bunch of people on here just looking for a fight for no reason. And then they all go off to the Forums and complain about some common “enemy.” It’s so weird and creates this strange sort of “Big Brother is watching you” vibe. We should all be in the trust tree.

    I will end this random vent session by saying I was really impressed with the class shown on the gay marriage debate and respect for dissenters. I am PRO gay marriage but still, I think this is is kind of mature discourse we need in the world to make any real change.

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    Prodigal Cheez
    Posted October 9, 2010 at 2:33 pm

    “Sorry for the long didactic post, but there seems to be a bunch of people on here just looking for a fight for no reason. And then they all go off to the Forums and complain about some common “enemy.” It’s so weird and creates this strange sort of “Big Brother is watching you” vibe. We should all be in the trust tree.”

    @Kelly Bundy – that is so offensive, and I might add hypocritical since the forums are open to everyone, and YOU seem to be lurking on them which kind of makes You “Big Brother”.

    I found BR’s comment to Robin offensive and insensitive, and I understand completely why Robin would have an issue with it. If she has an issue with language and articulation, then she should clarify her intent – Robin wasn’t offering a political opinion, she was sharing something deeply personal and deserved to be treated with sensitivity and respect.

    No one on the boards is “more sensitive”, we have a problem with a specific poster who has followed us over to the forums on many occasions to perpetuate her constant need for attention, negative or positive. The name calling didn’t start with us, and no one is “looking for a fight with no reason”; ironically it’s posts like yours that keep things rolling.

    And unless you already know BR, what qualifies you to interpret or disseminate her opinions for the rest of us? It’s almost like you’re looking for a fight… You can creep over to the forums later for my expanded opinions on that.

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    hollagirl2
    Posted October 9, 2010 at 2:59 pm

    @prodigal Cheez, Baha did in fact, I believe, attempt to explain her comment after Robin reacted so harshly.
    While I respect your opinions and agree on a quite a few insightful comments you have, I have to say I felt the reaction to Baha was out of line.
    If you are going to open up about something so personal on a reality tv board perhaps one better be better prepared for whatever comments are made about said situation. Such a sensitive topic maybe shouldnt be posted if it causes you to lash out at others.
    Once Bahas response was misinterpreted or came off too insensitive I believe she addressed that and tried to diffuse the situation.
    I have to agree with Kelly on this one.
    I feel sympathy for Robins situation but due to the strong emotion it evoked, this was probably not the best place for her to open up about it.

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    Prodigal Cheez
    Posted October 9, 2010 at 3:26 pm

    You agree that @Kelly’s opinions about a entire segment of posters were valid?

    I don’t appreciate being told or publicly “shamed” about when, how or where I can post my personal opinions. I will write whatever I want, wherever I want, and in any manner I see fit. Statements like the one @Kelly made are incendiary, and she knows it.

    Robin can post anything she wants, and anyone can have any opinion about it they want – and I will reserve my right to MY opinion on that. Robin’s regret about posting that is indicative of just how much the boards have deteriorated in general. Half the crap people post isn’t even about the show anymore.

    I also don’t appreciate being called out by you, you’ve done it numerous times and I’ve been pretty courteous and open-minded, but I’m not interested in what you think of me at this point.

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    hollagirl2
    Posted October 9, 2010 at 3:38 pm

    Let me clarify—- I think Kelly has said what I didn’t have the balls to say. So KUDOS to her because while I try to have a good repoire with most of the commenters on these forums and boards as I think everyone is entitled to their opinions and oftentimes I learn a lot from everyone’s different insights and stories … Your bullying has grown old and tiresome. Broken record.
    You don’t have to agree with my opinions nor do you have to read my posts, but as you are allowed to address others in regards to conversation on these boards, I will express my right to do the same.
    I look forward to lurking on the boards to see all the terrible things you think about me despite expressing quite the opposite in pm’s.
    You have shown your true character so thankyou for not wasting my time in further developing an open repoire with you.

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    hollagirl2
    Posted October 9, 2010 at 4:04 pm

    My apologies to the recapper and other commenters on the board. That last post could have best been expressed in a pm or ‘open forum’ as opposed to here. I in no way intended to take away from the recapper’s work or the general discussion of the show. Happy commenting.

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    whoochile
    Posted October 9, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    mother fuckin’ ichiban!!!

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    Prodigal Cheez
    Posted October 9, 2010 at 4:24 pm

    “repoire” = RAPPORT

    Lurk away, I don’t give a crap what you think. I’m not a bully, notice how I don’t try and join forces with anyone else? It’s because I don’t need a committee to express my opinions. Quit PM’ing me too, you’re a nuisance.

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    Martha Q
    Posted October 9, 2010 at 4:37 pm

    I think you ‘joined forces’ with Robin by responding to Kelly’s post that was addressed to her(Robin). This had nothing to do with you, from the looks of it. Besides, a bully doesn’t necessarily need backup..

    And, I thought we decided to ban the grammar police?

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    hollagirl2
    Posted October 9, 2010 at 4:38 pm

    Thanks GRAMMAR POLICE… *cough* hypocrite… and oh honey, stop fooling yourself.

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    Pixielated
    Posted October 9, 2010 at 4:57 pm

    Oh, shit. I guess I spoke too soon about this being a cool, respectful place to talk about stuff. Sorry. See ya.

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    hollagirl2
    Posted October 9, 2010 at 5:36 pm

    @pixie- apologies.Please don’t let the fact that I clearly lost my better judgmentin this situation to deter you from enjoying the boards. It was inappropriate on my part and I’m sorry to have interrupted the flow of the board.

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    Bahu Rupiya
    Posted October 9, 2010 at 5:40 pm

    @Robinez I’m not making any assumptions about your parents, or any parents who make that choice, needing to be forgiven, but rather alluding to the fact that the act of forgiving is beneficial and healing to h/she who is able to achieve it.

    Your suggestion that I “step away from the keyboard” is well-taken, and a choice that *I* should have made, and well before your act of courage and kindness in sharing your story.

    This site has, in my opinion, some of the funniest writing on the internets, both the people who write the articles, and those who comment on them.

    It looked like such fun, that recalling the quote of that old orange actor, “If I don’t enjoy every day, I’m a fool,” I made the choice to just barge in and start hurling my own comments around.

    That decision was, I recognize in the clarity of hindsight, selfish, short-sighted, and ill-conceived.

    Had I taken the time to think beyond my own impulsive whim, I would have realized that the reason the articles and the comments made me laugh so much was because they were written by a group of talented people who had, according to the rule of the whole being greater than the sum of its part, managed to form a successful ensemble dynamic.

    How that dynamic, that zeitgeist, would be impacted by the intrusion of some random fan of stupid reality shows, did not even occur to me.

    Thinking only of what would be fun to *me* – increase *my* enjoyment of “every day,” I just barged right in and started typing.

    Had I taken the time to do as every article on basic netiquette counsels, and take thorough and thoughtful look around a place before making that transition from lurker to participant, I would have realized that, as some have pointed out, there is more going on here than just good writers writing about TV shows.

    Even when, upon a brief foray into the forum section – again undertaken without doing the work first – revealed a substantial percentage of content having to do more with conflict, personalities, and similar topics, I ignored the red flag, and drew the conclusion that suited my own whimsy and wishes, rather than one that reflected or recognized either flag or facts.

    The forum, I decided, was where all that stuff took place, so I beat a hasty retreat, resolving henceforth to confine my comment-making – and my reading – to the articles which were my reason for having bookmarked the site in the first place, so delighted to have discovered it.

    Focused only on my own superficial enjoyment of the site, I had, from the beginning, actually been slighting the writers I admired so much, by applying that same superficiality to my reading of their words, glancing over, or just plain ignoring, any direct or indirect references to conflict, bickering, or drama, essentially creating my own version of the site, like those Firefox addons that let you apply your own style sheet to web pages, so that they appear to you in the colors and fonts, etc, of your own choosing.

    No one asked me to haul off and start making comments here. I just took it upon myself to do that.

    While I stand by any and all of them, including any opinions I have expressed on any and all subjects, I acknowledge that this was not the place for them.

    My intrusion here was an error that I sincerely regret, and the sadness I feel upon seeing it become a bone of conflict unto itself is inexpressible. Of those, you seem to already have a surfeit. I have no wish to add to their number.

    You have a splendid group of gifted writers here, who bring joy and laughter to millions of people.

    Whatever differences, conflicts or dramas you may have had in the past, or have now, pale in comparison to the immensity of that.

    Some of you have been kind enough to say some very nice things to me, and about me, which I will always cherish.

    It is my hope that you will ALL say such things to and about each other, in appreciation privileged position you enjoy, in having both the ability and the venue to make the valuable contribution that you do to all your admiring readers, among whose number I will be pleased to continue to include myself.

    (@Robinez asked what I am “on.” I’m old and unwell, so I’m “on” quite a long list of things).

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    ohralphie
    Posted October 9, 2010 at 6:06 pm

    @Bahu – hope you intend on staying. I enjoy reading your posts.

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    Angela Parisi LaRoe
    Posted October 9, 2010 at 6:23 pm

    I hate Theresa?

    Boy, reading that whole comment board was kind of depressing. I am not going to take sides on the whole thing but PCheez is usually pretty good about stuff and has never done anything really to offend me.

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    ohralphie
    Posted October 9, 2010 at 6:30 pm

    @angela parisi laroe — I just wish everyone would stay, post and enjoy themselves.

    I hate Teresa but god help me I hate Jill Zarin more.

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    Pixielated
    Posted October 9, 2010 at 6:48 pm

    IMO you didn’t “start it,” Hollagirl. No, I’m definitely taking some time off. I have enough DRAMA to deal with in real life, I don’t need to experience it/create it on a site that I come to for entertainment. I don’t want to feel like I have to walk on eggshells to avoid breaking some unwritten “rules.”

    My assumption is that we are all equals here and nobody can set the rules or dictate how other posters behave (except Flipit). There is a commonality that most if not all of these disputes have that I don’t feel like going into. YMMV but I believe that there is a clear pattern.

    Maybe when y’all have settled down a bit, I’ll come back.

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    Angela Parisi LaRoe
    Posted October 9, 2010 at 6:59 pm

    @ohralphie- I don’t really hate Theresa but BOY, I agree with the Jill Zarin comment.

    @Pixielated-I will miss you. I laugh a lot at your comments. You will be missed.

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     sarcasatire
     Posted October 9, 2010 at 7:22 pm

     @Bahu Rupiya, @Hollagirl2, @Pixielated:
     Please don’t go.
     I also agree that there is a pattern that many of us are starting to recognize..a common denominator, so to speak. But hopefully things calm down because I don’t want any of you guys to check out. Atleast, hang out on the ATL board..so far, everything is peaceful over there. *fingers crossed*

     I’ve felt the way you ladies have at certain points in my Gasm experience but then I realized that the good outweighs the bad and if ‘I fly above’ the drama, it won’t affect me..and I can go back to enjoying the commentary. (Like the story of Phaedra in the mythological sense, Pixie. lol)

     Anyway..let’s all take a deep breath..I think the storm has passed.

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     Robinez
     Posted October 9, 2010 at 8:07 pm

     @Baha Rupiya,

     Thank You for your thoughtful post. I appreciate it. And I mean it.

     While I am not sensitive to what other’s think of me, if we were given the opportunity to focus on the post’s that we exchanged with each other, without outside influence, I would like to think we may have settled this sooner. I think we both deserve a bit more credit than we were given. I wasn’t unaware of side’s being taken. I am glad that neither one of us responded to other people’s post’s and focused on our misunderstanding instead.

     We were talking about a sensitive subject and I think we both should have “stepped away from the kb”.

     I am sorry you are ill. Sending Best Wishes.

     Robin

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     uglycutie
     Posted October 9, 2010 at 8:44 pm

     My first comment gave me an error message and didn’t post. Sort of glad since I see Robinez posted another comment and I’m not going to defend her of her very personal post. She seems to be takig care of business.

     As for Hollagirl2…stop spewing hate toward PCheez. I’ve never had any contact with PCheez in the forums, PMs, or on these boards really…but it’s clear to see why some of you commenters wouldn’t like her. PCheez can discuss just about everything under the sun be it high culture, pop culture, politics, religion and she her observational humor is great. She is sincerely sensitive and ballsy when need be. All that with a sharp wit and great intelligence.

     Basically PCheez is an TVgasm ALL-STAR and she became that without even trying. I see these envious, stupid, ignorant bitches who can’t even spell (stawwwwwp being the grammar police…wahhhhhhh) trying gang up one her. Too funny. Kelly Bundy? Martha Q? Who are you? I don’t mean “who do you think you are”…seriously, never heard of you before today and I’ve read these recaps for years.

     See, I don’t engage in civil or intelligent back and forths on these boards because I am incapable and know when to “step away from the keyboard” but I know when to shut bitches down.

     Oh, and who named PCheez an ALL-STAR? I did. Who am I? Ugly-fucking-Cutie!!

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     giffordsaz
     Posted October 9, 2010 at 8:57 pm

     You guys are so fucked up it is now funny. and when I say you guys…I mean all of you…just you all. And when I say fucked up I don’t mean that in a bad way….. Entertainment. I just hope you all don’t regret the time it takes you to vent with your fingers.

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     Pixielated
     Posted October 9, 2010 at 10:10 pm

     @uglycutie, thank you so much for reaffirming my decision to stop coming to these comment sections. I was momentarily encouraged by an outbreak of civility, but you stepped in and proved just how destructive a place it is.

     Drama class stopped for most of us in about 10th grade.

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     sarcasatire
     Posted October 9, 2010 at 10:50 pm

     On a lighter note, on WWHL on Thursday, it was revealed that Tareq’s dad died the day before. Not only was it in poor taste to attend the show the day after, and let your dad’s demise be mentioned in an offhand comment by Andy, but to not show any grief..like, ‘yea, he died.’ (shrugs)
     I read somewhere his mom made Tareq bring a police escort to visit his dad in the hospital, so I can only imagine how many cops will be at the funeral.
     (So much for the lighter note, lol)

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     crowjar
     Posted October 10, 2010 at 3:40 am

     I had to delurk because this is getting out of hand right now.

     This place used to be great & it still could be but the drama needs to stop.

     They even put up a forum just for that crap & still I come over here to read about the Salamis & instead its mean girls beating up on a sick old lady.

     Yes it looks like maybe there was some culture & genaration gaps or whatever. But thats not an exscuse.

     Plus we know its not even about that.

     The drama & bashing the recappers & atacking & spying, mean girls being jelouse of the one thats a model & hostilaty has been going on for a long time & the site has been going down because of it. This is just the new low.

     It ought to be a wakeup call. Im not saying ppl will stop coming to the site, because that wont happen, its too popular & well known.

     Im just saying for your self respect.

     FYI the recappers are the Superstars. They dont get paid for there hard work & deserve better than getting bashed & trashed by a few bad apples using it for their mean girl drama & running ppl off.

     Sorry for the long post but as a long time fan I want to sugest that you close the register link temporaly & work out your problems before adding more new ppl. Also IMHO recappers should get paid.

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     Ladidadi
     Posted October 10, 2010 at 8:20 am

     @uglycutie I believe your “All-Star” was one of the ones making a fuss over the grammar police and giving people grief for correcting spelling and grammar. I could be wrong though. But I don’t think @Hollagirl was actually complaining about Grammar Police rather she was just showing the inconsistencies. Thanks for stepping in and questioning Kelly and Martha. I’m sure they weren’t aware that they had to make formal introductions to you before posting on the recaps. I really do appreciate shutting all the bitches down. Now we can all go back to walking on eggshells and learning the rules as they change daily. Thank you!

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     Bionic Television
     Posted October 10, 2010 at 5:47 pm

     This kind of thing never happens on the Kardashians thread. I should start watching that show.

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     Angela Parisi LaRoe
     Posted October 10, 2010 at 6:01 pm

     @Bionic Television-I don’t watch the show but I read it exclusively for SwellMel. She rocks. I love BBitz loads too. I agree with the person who said recappers should get paid if they could. They really are amazing. Flipit picks excellent people for it.

     I love this site and could never leave it, even if there is a war or something else.

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     giffordsaz
     Posted October 10, 2010 at 6:02 pm

     I think Tarque being at Andy Cohen’ s show the day after his father died says a lot about his desire for self promotion over respect for others. The Thursday night program did not show us anthing we really didn’t know (if you were reading the DC Post) and in no way vindicated the Salami’s. If Bravo had backed of the simple filming of the situatin and showed us production a b it and treated them like zoo animals and made it a documentary…. as it should have been at this point in time…. it would have made Bravo history.As they have left it it is just another stunt pulled off by the crazy couple that Bravo, and we, are victims of.

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     Bionic Television
     Posted October 10, 2010 at 6:08 pm

     @Angela – totally, I have read SwellMel’s stuff before and it is great. All these recappers are amazing. I’ve loved BBitz since he covered The Bachelor, those had me rolling. Flipit’s Project Runway & Top Chef recaps also come to mind as all-time faves. And of course, the old days with B-Side’s recaps of Laguna Beach & The Hills. I recently had some old-school Laguna sighting and I thought of B-Side, even after…how long has it been, five years?

     I could never leave either

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     Savannah
     Posted October 10, 2010 at 7:36 pm

     @Sarcasatire, lol on trying to be light. I actually think you did a good job, judging on the state of the situation on this comment board.

     I apologize in advance to those who are PC, but I gotta say–I think a lot of the fighting has to do with the fact that this board is heavily stacked with women and it is like we are passing around the estrogen-bitchery like it is a goddamn crack pipe. @ Giffordsaz, I think you were right that we are fucked up, but let’s funnel that into something…if not positive, at least something that doesn’t break people into warring groups..?

     But really, I think we all need to give ourselves and each other a break and stop feeling guilty and start taking things lighter. I feel almost nostalgic going back approximately five days ago when people were (respectfully) disagreeing with my stance on gay marriage. Some people are more sensitive than others, so, as a general rule, if you want to take a hit, take one at me (my real life is so fucked that I personally don’t care what happens on the internet).

     @Tvaholic, are you a dude? You need to start posting more. We need more testosterone in the room IMO. I don’t mean to sound preachy, but it’s more fun and funnier when we do get along. I used to be sensitive (Sarcasatire, are you reading this? ) but then I realized we can agree to disagree and I personally have respect for everyone here.
     To paraphrase Ghandi, acting like a cunt is sometimes par for the course. If we weren’t attracted to cunt-y behavior, maybe we wouldn’t be attracted to these shows in the first place and we wouldn’t be here to make each other laugh…

     To now paraphrase Jen, Michaele’s assistant who moonlights as a philosopher,”loving everyone beats acting bitchy” words to live by!

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     Bionic Television
     Posted October 10, 2010 at 8:05 pm

     “To paraphrase Ghandi, acting like a cunt is sometimes par for the course.”

     LOL, Savannah – that was amazing. I hope your stance on gay marriage changes so that I can marry you after that line.

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     Mommy2Bree
     Posted October 10, 2010 at 8:29 pm

     Boy, it’s a darn good thing the Grammar Police (who, I believe, the Spelling Squad are an offshoot of) have been banned…because I think they would be working overtime with some of these posts. Sheesh. (and no, I don’t mean sheesh the poster, just sheesh in general) LOL

     Anyway, just wanted to drop in and say “Hey” and also tell Robinez and Bahu that I appreciate the maturity with which you squashed the small flare up that occurred.

     Oh, and while I agree that the recappers are certainly the “captains” of the all-star team, I also believe that some of the posters here should be considered all-stars as well.

     Oh, and I hate Theresa a bit, but hate Danielle, Jill and Kelly even more.

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     sarcasatire
     Posted October 10, 2010 at 9:25 pm

     Thanks, @Savannah! Sometimes, all you need is a little death talk to lighten the mood! And love the Ghandi quotes.

     I think the only guy we get on the HW threads is Matt Lam. He was a big fan of Jersey but not sure if he’s been watching DC. I know he loves Atlanta (and Kim), so if you’re watching, Matt, we need you’re testosterone!

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     sarcasatire
     Posted October 10, 2010 at 9:27 pm

     you’re = your

     (Just in case the Grammar Police are watching, lol)

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     giffordsaz
     Posted October 10, 2010 at 10:53 pm

     I think Tarque being at Andy Cohen’ s show the day after his father died says a lot about his desire for self promotion over respect for others. The Thursday night program did not show us anthing we really didn’t know (if you were reading the DC Post) and in no way vindicated the Salami’s. If Bravo had backed of the simple filming of the situatin and showed us production a b it and treated them like zoo animals and made it a documentary…. as it should have been at this point in time…. it would have made Bravo history.As they have left it it is just another stunt pulled off by the crazy couple that Bravo, and we, are victims of.

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     hollagirl2
     Posted October 10, 2010 at 10:56 pm

     @Savannah,
     I think your post is right on the money. I think one of the great things about this website is that it has such a variety of commenters with strong opinions and personalities.
     Unfortunately because of this, I’d say sometimes pride gets the best of us (I know at least for me)
     I hope we can all take away from your post that this website is meant for fun and witty interaction and is a great way to share information and insight on shows. No need to get ugly on any side no matter if you disagree or not!
     I was really disheartened last night and disappointed that I let myself drop to the point I did but I took the rest of the night and today off to let things calm down and am encouraged by your words.
     Hopefully everyone can let everything settle- at least to the point of civility so that Tvgasm can get back/continue to be the place we all love to come to, to get away from the real world!
     Happy commenting and thanks to the recappers for sticking with us despite all the drama!

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     Robinez
     Posted October 10, 2010 at 11:04 pm

     OK, Let me get this straight. I had a disagreement, misunderstanding, whatever you want to call it, with BR. With chaos playing in the background, we were able to remedy OUR PROBLEM and we moved on. I wish other folks could do the same.

     Why do people insist on launching an attack on someone about something that doesn’t involve them? They lay in wait and once someone is metophorically on the ground they gang up. Then, after whatever dispute is over, they hang around for 10 posts or so,not only to talk about something that never had anything to do with them in the first place, but to speak disparingly of the folks that didn’t agree with them. I find it ironic that many of the post’s after BR and I settled our differences were confrontational in their nature. Hypocritical comes to mind when I see post’s after a resolution that start out with ” Shouldn’t fight”..”you are always so mean”, etc and end up with “You are such a troublemaker you fuckhead. I hate you asshole! ..Just sayin…

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     hollagirl2
     Posted October 10, 2010 at 11:27 pm

     @robin,
     I’m not sure if your last post was directed at me but from my recollection I haven’t used that language towards anyone.
     In regards to your personal post and resolution.I addressed your issues with me in the forums you frequent and apologized. You can accept that apology or not, as it’s your right to do so.
     My last post had nothing to do with your or your situation or your personal problems. It had everything to do with addressing how I acted yesterday and what I hope to see in the future from Tvgasm.
     You are more than welcome to pm me or address you if there’s still something you wish to discuss… Otherwise I believe I’ve done the best I could to bow out of your original interaction with Baha that started this mess.
     If you have a problem with me and you can’t fathom resolution I’ve been informed there’s also an ignore method on this website.
     And if it wasn’t directed at me…consider me foolishly vain for thinking so.

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     Martha Q
     Posted October 10, 2010 at 11:38 pm

     When it comes to ‘vague, indirect’ posts, especially those confrontational in nature, the best thing to do is ignore them. Anyone could take offense and respond and then another war of words will begin. Then the original poster will then say, “Why are you involved? I wasn’t even talking to you!”

     It’s happened twice already on this very thread. Kelly wrote a vague comment, and Prodigal Cheez took offense to it as if it was directed at her. Now, Robin is using a similar tactic. However, after scrolling upthread the only confrontational, vulgar post I see is from @Uglycutie at #102. So, perhaps that is who she is referring to. If you didn’t use vulgar language or post a confrontational post, then there is no need to respond to Robin’s inquiry. Let’s just pretend it’s a rhetorical question.

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     hollagirl2
     Posted October 10, 2010 at 11:44 pm

     Good advice martha… The sensitivity ratio is a little higher on my end after the guilt and embarrassment of yesterday… And perhaps that last glass of wine.
     Thanks for the insight and touch of common sense.

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     hollagirl2
     Posted October 11, 2010 at 12:47 am

     You’d also think, there’s only so many foot in mouth moments you can have in one weekend. Clearly I’ve been trying to set the record. FAIL.

     Anywho, BBitz, the Drop Dead Gorgeous reference was awesome! It was on the other day and I had completely forgot what a guilty pleasure movie that was for me!

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     Martha Q
     Posted October 11, 2010 at 12:55 am

     Even the smartest fish can be lured by the right bait.

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     classy drunk
     Posted October 11, 2010 at 5:22 am

     Sigh…maybe I am irritated because of the week that I had and all of this sounds really petty and stupid because generally I find pettiness and stupidity entertaining.

     Anyway…

     I finally watched the last episode and I don’t want to post to much before the recap goes up, but why in the last two episode have we seen so many cameramen and intervening from production? Don’t they generally try to hide all of that stuff?

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     LAC
     Posted October 18, 2010 at 8:02 am

     @ classy drunk – I am with you on your first point. I also noticed the “fourth wall” being broken a lot on the last two episodes. Maybe to add some cinema verite to the show? Or maybe even the crew were too flabbergasted to move when they needed to –

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     Cupcake75
     Posted October 23, 2010 at 7:40 am

     http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-dc/season-1/blogs/dc-guys

     DC husbands are overall the best husbands (idk about OC don’t watch it)

     Does anyone else kind of love Rich Amons