Real Housewives of DC: Isn’t Cat Precious?!

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   Phil
   Posted August 24, 2010 at 3:35 pm

   BBitz, how you come up with hilarious recaps from such a dull show I have no idea.

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   kdognatl
   Posted August 24, 2010 at 4:01 pm

   Yah the show was pretty boring. But this recap, with your screen captions, HILARIOUS!

   “Back at the dinner, Mr. Salami is telling everyone that Cat actually GAINED weight when she met him. UMMM – WTF?! Was she anti-matter when you met her?! A walking black hole?! Or just a skeleton with big eyes and lips?”

   Can’t stop laughing.

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   Angela Parisi LaRoe
   Posted August 24, 2010 at 4:41 pm

   “YOU MEAN LIKE A PUPPY?! I LOVE PUPPIES! DO YOU WANNA BISCUIT?!”

   That was pure genius. Since I laughed out loud and my MIL gave me a disgusted look, you earn points with me.

   I refuse to watch the shows but read your recaps. Great job BBitz. The Mounds and the Almond Joy remark was pretty remarkable too in my book.

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   Jason Lau
   Posted August 24, 2010 at 5:55 pm

   Love the Commercial spots!! Can’t wait for Paul’s new [old] Whitney do next week!!

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   Robinez
   Posted August 24, 2010 at 6:07 pm

   BBitz,

   I cannot tell you how hard I laughed at this recap!Well,maybe I can..I laughed really really hard! Thanks so much.

   What kind of point was Cat trying to make when she lamented to her husband that she was stuck with two kids at home with no help? Aren’t they HER spawn that she brought into the relationship? I know some stepfather’s have a more active role than other’s,but it isn’t like he is playing Polo.The dude is working.

   Regardless of whether Stacie’s friend Erica was right or not about the token remark,I still think she is a troublemaker.

   Thanks again for the laughs.

   TC,Robin

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   Alison Zimmerman
   Posted August 24, 2010 at 6:14 pm

   ok so I totally tuned out this episode! I faintly recall Cat bitchin about her husband not being able to do her book cover shoot. I was thinking whatevs bitch, man has to work! I also remember Mary talking to her daughter about sexting, Who in their right mind doesn’t know about sexting? You know Mary sexts her husband all the time…I know I am evil! Then I kind of remember about Paul calling Mary to tell her about how The Salami’s lawyer wanted some shit typed up stating tht they did not have to pay for Pauls party…hell, I don’t remember all that was said, I just know that that right there was fucked up! I guess I will have to go and re-watch this craptastic show! I am kind of in a mood, I was fired today, and I have to go grocery shopping tomorrow with what is left of the of paycheck I got last week.. I am not exactly sure which is more important, feeding my husband or paying our bills, and my student loan…yeah yeah yeah, I know, the bills, I know how harsh you all are in the RHNJ comments…Love and Light bitches, I need a beer!!

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   txhoney
   Posted August 24, 2010 at 6:27 pm

   Holy Bejesus!! I totally spit out my wine when the picture of Cat and her kittens popped up. Bbitz, you are cracking my ass up tonight.

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   Robinez
   Posted August 24, 2010 at 6:31 pm

   @Allison,

   Sweetie I feel for you and I truly understand.The hubby got laid off recently and my work has slowed down considerably because new home construction has taken a big dump.

   Hanging in there with you..

   Hugs,Robin

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   chemgal
   Posted August 24, 2010 at 6:59 pm

   @Allison, just recently paid off over $30,000 of medical debt we acquired when I was sick. Know ahead of time, your marriage will be stressed immensely and in the next few days sit down together to come up with a plan so no one starts building resentments. Prayers to you and to Robin.

   This episode was so boring that unless one of the commentators stirs the pot, I don’t have much to add. Thank goodness the recap was so good.

   I STILL like Cat. I do, I can’t help it. Now, I want to see more of her and Paul interact. I think they would be a riot together. Wondering why Cat was the only one who even reacted to Stacie and her friend being upset about the Diana Ross comment. Was she the only white woman who realized it was a rude comment to make? Maybe because Lynda dates a black man she thinks she’s in the club and can get away making dumb ass comments like that?

   Is there a bigger story behind Mary’s youngest going to public school? Perhaps the salami’s aren’t the only ones with some financial problems?

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    Mr. Reality
    Posted August 24, 2010 at 7:14 pm

    I love Cat, Lynda, and Mary. I’m getting sick of hearing the word racist thrown at Cat, I thought the part with her and Paul was hillarious. Lynda is so funny, she’s the fun bitch of the season w/o a doubt.

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    sarcasatire
    Posted August 24, 2010 at 7:21 pm

    @chemagal: I wondered why it was Cat that took Erika and Stacie comment personal. It wasn’t directed t ther, and the word ‘token’ was never used..subtitles were provided to make that quite clear. I don’t get why some think Erika’s comment rude and not Linda’s. I can see why Erika was annoyed. Sometimes when a person is the only one f color in a group, they have to endure a bunch of ill-placed ‘cultural’ references. It’s like, what it is about Stacie that reminds anyone of Diana Ross besides the fact that Stacie is also Black. I’m sorry, but that’s annoying, lol. And all Erika did was point out the similarity of Stacie to Diana. “Well, apparently, we have a Black person in the group.” Stacie says, “I know, right. Diana.” If that offends people more than what Lynda said then please explain because I sure don’t get it.

    Also, Cat sure was a lot more comfortable at this dinner than she was at Aunt Frances, wasn’t she? Hmmm, I wonder what’s different about this one…. *ponders*

    I also agree about her complaining to her hubby about taking care of the kids…Ummmm…they’re yours! If you wanted weekends off, you shouldn’tve moved them so far away from their dad.

    @Allison, Chemgal, and Robinez…your in our thoughts. Hope you laies come back on top…and soon!

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    sarcasatire
    Posted August 24, 2010 at 7:24 pm

    On another note..I did think she and Paul were cute together. But I’m wondering if she used this ‘talk’ as a way to clear up things that weren’t actually said..like the producers told her how she was coming off and she grabbed a ‘token Black person’ for some P.R. damage control. I don’t think she’s racist, but I do think that talk with Paul was little staged and unnecessary to have at the moment. But I guess she saw an opening… lol

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    Alison Zimmerman
    Posted August 24, 2010 at 7:44 pm

    @sarc-I agree with you on linda! Loved the part when she said that the model needs to eat! She would probably say the same thing about me, if she saw me, now. (I have lost over 100 pounds). And isn’t MR Cat taking care of the kid’s by working? I mean, come on lady! Just cause you get a paycheck from Bravo…wait, apparently that doesn’t get you much these days …Does anyone think that her book will may the NewYork Best Sellers list?? HAHHAH!

    @chem-thank you for your words of support!! We are military, and are getting ready to move. The only saving grace there is that it is a military move and we won’t have to pay for it. We will both be driving so the only money spent will be for gas/food/lodging, and the 2 plane tickes for our mom’s to come and drive with us. I have never been fired before! Didn’t see it comming. But, yes, hubbs and I have talked and its going to be alot of nothing for the next 8 weeks. Bill and groceries, that is the only money that is going to be spent. We had done the 1 paycheck family before when we first got married, it was hard 6 years ago, its going to be worse now….

    @BB–sorry chicka, didn’t mean to make this woe is me..I am a frustrated sinorita..Love you and the recaps! Keep em up!!

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    Prodigal Cheez
    Posted August 24, 2010 at 9:21 pm

    I have a whopper of a summer cold, and haven’t seen either of the new HW episodes – but I read the recaps…

    @Alison – just a quick comment… There are a lot of people experiencing losses right now through no fault of their own, just like you. Bitching about Teresa, or any of the other Househags who live above their means, doesn’t mean we don’t understand genuine stress and loss – I’m going through it too, and @chemgal really gave you great advice. Try not to worry too much, something will come along, and if it doesn’t happen right away then take advantage of any and every program you can to go back to school, or explore another kind of training if you need to defer student loans – those programs are in place for exactly those reasons. Whatever you do, you’re smart and dynamic and I know you’ll be fine.

    Hang in there, and to you, @Robinez, @chemgal, or anyone else experiencing stress right now – you are all in my thoughts and prayers as well. Thank God we have these fucking morons to laugh at, otherwise we might start to take life too seriously!

    XXOO to all of you guys. Now I’m back to my crazy cold medicine dreams – where for some reason everyone is always naked. And not in a good way.

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    Robinez
    Posted August 24, 2010 at 9:43 pm

    “It’s like, what it is about Stacie that reminds anyone of Diana Ross besides the fact that Stacie is also Black.”

    “Stacie says, “I know, right. Diana.” ”

    Stacie is the one who mentioned Diana Ross.She mentioned it.Stacie said Diana Ross.

    I still don’t understand how a black gal can be a token black gal when all the Supremes were black?

    TC,Robin ..and Thanks for the good wishes..

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    Alison Zimmerman
    Posted August 24, 2010 at 9:56 pm

    @Prodigal–Its to damn hot for a summer cold! So sorrry to hear that! I hope that you get better soon! I also can’t wait to hear what you think about the episode from lastnight, you always crack me up Thank you all for your support. I am working on getting my job back actually, but I am not so sure that I want to work for the company anymore though. My husband has told me that once we get back up to Washington, land of the cold and rain, that I should use part of his GI bill and go back to school. But I am not exactly sure what it is that I want to do, I had the job that I wanted to do..And yes you are right, I do have all my possession. None of my fine joorey is being apprased to be put up for auction. My cars have not been repoed, and we are not “under foreclosure”…I have not snuck into any White House dinners or had to hire any body gaurds to go and get a panini..But seriously, BBtiz you rock!

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    2muchbravo
    Posted August 24, 2010 at 10:27 pm

    Cat is a bitch and I think she’s trying so hard to tell everyone she’s not a racist that she’s starting to sound a bit racist. Erica didn’t make that comment to her, yet she took it that way. Sensitive much? I can’t believe she called Paul ‘colored!’ Ok, she’s a Brit but that term hasn’t been used in what, 40 years?

    I like Mary. She’s kind of sassy and has great hair. Her kid going to public school has nothing to do with the proliferation of sexting. Private schools kids aren’t necessarily well-behaved angels. I don’t know where Mary lives but I think the public schools in Montgomery County, MD are probably pretty good. It’s got a pretty high per capita rate.

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    sarcasatire
    Posted August 24, 2010 at 10:35 pm

    @Robinez: Lynda, during the ‘Cat’s our new soul sister speech’, said to Stacie, “And if you can sing, you’ll be our Diana Ross.” Which is what Erika commented on.

    (Even if we were to follow your train of thought of Stacie saying, ‘Diana’..again, why would you think she was referring to Diana Ross? A bit of a leap, no?)

    Oh, and when Erika said, “Apparently there is black girl in the group,” and Stacie sarcastically, replied, “yea..Diana.” she wasn’t referring to the Supremes, lmao!! She was referring to the group of DC Housewives. Being the only person on a particular ethnic background iwithin a group is referred to as the ‘token.’ Like you are there to fill a quota. But, as we saw, no one mentioned the word ‘token’ during the exchange.
    But, yes, Lynda called Stacie Diana as was stated in BBitz’ recap, as well. Trust me, it took viewing it a few times for me to figure out just who was saying what because the camera wasn’t fixed on the speaking parties.

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    Robinez
    Posted August 24, 2010 at 11:11 pm

    @Sarcas,

    “(Even if we were to follow your train of thought of Stacie saying, ‘Diana’..again, why would you think she was referring to Diana Ross? A bit of a leap, no?)”

    Oh fucking PUHLEEZE.She said Diana.I assumed she knew what Diana she was talking about.They even talked about singing..What other Diana do you know that sings?

    A bit of a leap? I wrote about what I saw on my tv.This is getting to be too much.I think I am going to stop posting on this board before I get stupid and start telling people about all my friends and relatives.

    TC,Robin

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    sarcasatire
    Posted August 24, 2010 at 11:34 pm

    @Robinez: Whoa..calm down there. I take it you read the recap and saw the show. Therefore, you have both seen and read that it was Lynda who called Stacie “Diana Ross’, out of the blue. Both Stacie and Erika made sarcastic remarks to Lynda’s statement, such as Stacie sardonically saying, “yea…Diana”, with a smirk. Then Cat somehow took this as them calling her racist when she(Cat) had not uttered a word nor was she being addressed at that moment.
    Now, if you saw anything else on your TV than was described above, then please, readjust your attenna.

    Also, I’m not sure what your comment, “I am going to stop posting on this board before I get stupid and start telling people about all my friends and relatives”, is supposed to mean..but um.. something about your previous comment, “The hubby got laid off recently”..is telling me that ship has sailed.

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    Prodigal Cheez
    Posted August 24, 2010 at 11:45 pm

    Oh fuck, here we go again.

    Robin please don’t leave, you’re awesome, funny, and awesomely funny. XO PCheez

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    sarcasatire
    Posted August 24, 2010 at 11:48 pm

    Yea..I soooooo don’t get where all the aggression is coming from. I always thought you and I were cool, Robin, even when we disagree.

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    Robinez
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 12:01 am

    Not sure about here we go again.Not something I do.

    In any case,I think it will be best if I just hang out with you on the other board’s

    We always have fun on the other ones.

    Take Care,Robin

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    Robinez
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 12:11 am

    @Sarcas We are cool!

    Even if we were to follow your train of thought of Stacie saying, ‘Diana’..again, why would you think she was referring to Diana Ross? A bit of a leap, no?)

    Thats what bothered me to be honest.Yeah.I thought about Diana Ross right after Stacie mentioned her name.Why would that be a leap? For me?

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    Prodigal Cheez
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 12:14 am

    Robin I sent you a PM through the Forums.

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    Robinez
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 12:14 am

    XO PCheeze

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    sarcasatire
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 12:32 am

    @Robinez..I’m sorry if that sounded rude. That wasn’t my intent. I was saying that if you didn’t hear the previous ‘Diana Ross’ comment from Lynda, but just heard Stacie say, “Diana”, how are we to know she meant Diana Ross specifically?
    I should’ve been more clear that I wasn’t talking to you directly, just saying okay, well if this is the theory we are following, then a, b, c, or d. I see now, “your train of thought’ may have come off as a bit harsh, which wasn’t my intent. I understand that tone is difficult to establish in writing. Anyway, my bad, homeskillet…

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    sarcasatire
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 12:39 am

    Also, next time,, it’s best if you let me know, well “Sarcas, this comment sounded a bit harsh” or “I have a problem with the way you said this to me..”, rather than fight fire with fire or get upset because 9x’s out of 10, it wasn’t my intention and that 1/10 of a time when it is, I will def admit to it. But no use holding grudges based on misunderstandings, amirite?

    I’m not here to fight with anyone, even when we disagree. I always refrain from name-calling, even from dropping f-bombs because it can come of as aggressive and offend others. I just wanna talk shit about tacky bitches, in feather boas, sipping kombucha in wine glasses with their pinkies extended. Or about grinning gays with Cheetara’s hairdo. In this case, I find that despite about disagreements, we all have more in common than we realize!

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    sarcasatire
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 4:02 am

    Wow. Just, wow!

    First off…so much for saying once!

    I have already apologized for the comment that you said bothered you. But I have, in no way, implied that you are a racist. If you believe that, then it is you that is having difficulty with the subject matter and not me. You are the one making a ‘mountain out of a holemill’, while you choose to project your discomfort onto me. When it comes to disagreeing, who cares what color we are? What difference does that make when I am only explaning comments that were said by the cast, in fact, not opinion?

    When did I ‘take you to task?’ You know what, why should I engage when people get aggressive on the boards and then peg themselves the victim? I have not called anyone here a racist, not even Cat! But if that’s something you think you can throw at me because you don’t like Erika’s comment and I said I can see why she was annoyed then so be it. You seem to be more uncomfortable with the subject matter than I. Thou doth protest too much.

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    sarcasatire
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 4:17 am

    @Robinez says: “Yeah.I thought about Diana Ross right after Stacie mentioned her name.Why would that be a leap? For me?”

    It shouldn’t be a leap because Lynda mentioned Diana Ross only seconds earlier! I was saying that you seemed to not have heard (or acknowledged) Lynda’s comment, so the name Diana wouldn’t just make one automatically think of Diana Ross. It only works in the context of the entire conversation between the ladies.

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    classy drunk
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 5:19 am

    Sigh…again. I thought I would come here and get my morning started with some funny discussions about these fame whores, but yet again we are bogged down with another back and forth about race.

    @Allison, I was unemployed for a little over 7 months. The first thing that you can do is go and file for unemployment and also defer your student loans. Next, make a budget for the income that you do have coming into the house. Last, stay confident. I know that something will come around for you and you’ll be back on your feet in no time. @ Robin, make sure that the hubby brushes up on his computer skills, he may not be able to get work immediately in his previous field but computer skills are very helpful when looking for temp work. @ Chemgal, I am glad that you got your bills paid off. Hopefully you can do something nice for yourself.

    Lastly, hilarious recap BBitz, so many funny lines that I’d be better off copying and pasting the whole recap.

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    Baxter
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 6:13 am

    bBitz loved the recap! The commercials are awesome. I will admit I stopped watching this one. I just can’t get into it but still love to read the recaps.

    As far as the race thing (again I didn’t watch it), I’m so surprised any of this is coming up in a place like DC. It is the biggest mixing bowl. You stand anywhere there and you can hear conversations in 3 different languages.

    @Allison- My husband is also in the military (Army) and I know moving along with the job thing is stressful so many hugs to you. I think we are headed out to Washington next as well.

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    Prodigal Cheez
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 6:22 am

    @Robinez – that Captcha beast gets me every time too!! LOL, DAMN CAPTCHA!!

    Anyway – I hate to once again take away from BBitz’s FANTASTIC recap, because like what happened with Twunty it’s an insult to your talent and hard work to do it, BUT I think this needs to be dealt with because ultimately this ongoing war of words over race is going to hurt the recappers, the board participation and ultimately the site itself. So to make it clear, I am on TVGASM’S side in all of this.

    @saracasatire – you clearly have had a lot of issues with race on these boards. As soon as someone makes a comment regarding anything having to do with race, no matter how simple, you dissect it and then create a one-sided discourse to EDUCATE us, while shaking your finger at us for never being able to relate to your experiences.

    I can’t relate to your experiences, but I can certainly relate to being treated with a lack of respect, condescension and a little bit of intimidation because of the emotionally charged nature of this subject matter. You also make assumptions that maybe the rest of us aren’t quite as educated or wordly as you are – you cannot be more wrong. I have yet to experience anything approaching true ignorance or provincialism on these boards – even those of us from small towns, like me, have enough sophistication to be in on the joke here.

    Anyone has any right to be here, and anyone has their right to an opinion – but when one person’s agenda begins to alienate long-time members of the community I have a problem with it. I understand why Robin won’t participate on this board anymore, I nearly made the same decision myself last week – then I realized the only people who would truly suffer the consequence of losing readers here would be BBitz and TVgasm (sorry PCheez haters, LOL). So I’m doing my best to stay on topic (Alison Z, and this post excluded OBVIOUSLY), and support the fantastic effort BBitz is putting in here.

    You are undermining the sense of community here, and creating dissension where there wasn’t any before. No one wants to see you go, but this ongoing, largely one-sided debate needs to end – no one is arguing the fact that racism is bad, or that it exists. We all bring our own perspectives and experiences to the table, and making observations about it in response to something we’re seeing versus turning comments about a TV show into a platform for social debate is not working in this context. You are being inappropriate and inconsiderate of everyone who comes here to talk about the show, and most of all to the recappers who watch as their funny and brilliant insight gets lost in yet another cat-fight about something we ALL SEEM TO AGREE ON OVERALL.

    I actually like you @sarcas, I think you’re funny and bright, and when interacting on any other issue I enjoy the back and forth.

    I know I’m going to get a bunch of shit for this, it’s okay I can take it. For the record, I’m not going to comment on anything other than the show from this point forward – I just have to watch the goddamn thing – and hopefully today.

    And…. I’ll take Singers named Diana for $500. Diana Krall. There is more than one,

    BBitz, you really are a brilliantly funny writer, and one of my new favorites – thanks again for a great piece of writing and entertainment.

    XO to all – PCheez

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    Trister
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 6:50 am

    For starters, fab recap Bbitz! Yours are unlike any others I’ve come across-love the extra elements (talking bubbles, commercial screencaps, etc). You are witty and fun and I love it!

    Sarcas and Robin: Firstly-Hey there!! Second-I think your convo took a wrong turn onto Misunderstanding Ave. I don’t post all that often, but I read many recaps as well as the comments and I’ve taken notice of at least these things: Sarcas is the best at respectfully disagreeing and Robin is always very insightful and BOTH of you always seem to take time to digest every person’s posting with acute consideration. Wires seem to have been crossed, that’s all. I don’t think either of you, or anyone else, intended to start anything with the other. Just my perception…

    As for the race thing…well, I’m not black, but I am a minority so this is my take on it: I don’t think Cat is racist, I think she’s blunt and more than a little stuffy. I feel like she is no stranger to being misinterpreted because it seems to take her a little while to thaw to people and vice versa (I empathize with her). Stacie’s kind of the opposite of her-she’s tactful and outgoing. She’s a very warm person, but I think she also gets defensive. Stacie automatically went to race (in fact, she’s the only housewife on the show that mentions race, and she’s done it more than once). I feel like if anyone’s mind is focused on race, it’s obviously hers. In fact, at some point in this last episode, her husband said something about The Salami to the effect of “Are we gonna see this white boy dance?” (I can’t remember the exact quote). Now, if that had been reversed, and someone white referred to Stacie or her husband as “the black girl/boy,” how do you think she would’ve reacted? I’m guessing not well.
    Now, that being said, I do empathize with Stacie in the sense that sometimes, it does become painfully clear that you, um, CONTRAST, with those around you. It can be more than uncomfortable. And who likes that?

    I guess all my blabbering boils down to this: race really shouldn’t matter, to ANYONE, no matter what their skin tone is. It’s too easy to assume the worst in people and forget that perhaps others aren’t as socially adept, in any situation they are in. The sooner we all (“we all” being, you know, humans) stop being so focused on race, the sooner we can be rid of that prejudice.

    Anyway, that’s my opinion.

    Also, wishes of strength and prosperity to those of you who have fallen on hard times. We all have our struggles, and even when they differ, the common thread is the hope and drive we use to push us through. “Good things.”-Stan Indursky

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    Trister
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 6:57 am

    I forgot to add-I actually am LIKING this crop of HWs. They are all smart and cultured and are generally likable. I even don’t mind…dare I say it…Michaele (or however it’s spelled). I think she is a lot to take in and a bit too concerned with appearance, but I like her high energy. She seems like she’d be fun to hang with-never dull. Her husband is a tool, and from what I can see and have read, he has been a negative influence on her, but I just really don’t mind her.

    We’ll see if future eps change my mind. I’ve been fooled by these Bravo Bitches before!!

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    Alison Zimmerman
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 7:38 am

    @ BBtiz–Again I apologize for taking this discussion to a personal thing. I had not intent of doing that! I think you recaps of this installment of the HW is off the chart Hilarious! I am with Robinz, and Prodigal with I will no longer talk about personal situations, and I will stick to talking only about these fame Whores! I know from the previews for tomorrows show that we are going to see the starting of the Salami’s intro to the Whitehouse. I am going to rewatch this latest episode again, so I can participate in a “normal” adult discussion.

    I think that we all need to agree to disagree on some of the subject matter. I personally would feel bad if one of our recappers decided that they were done because of some of the crap that WE ALL have said. WE all have our points of view, and someone said that it is easier to show emotion and feelings easier when you are actually talking to the other person, then it is to write it all down. Some of the things I have read in the comments are harsh, but it is all how you interpert (sp) them. I have been honest, with everyone about not really paying attention to most of this episode, so I am not sure who said what about someone being “diana”.

    Yes I am still going to come on see what whitty stuff BBtiz has written about one of my guilty pleasures, along with the NJ franchise. I think it is a fun way to relate to other ladies about the same craptastick show that I like. I know that we are all smart well educated ladies, and some gents?? But it is getting out of hand. I will say that if any of the ladies have facebook, I am there and I would more then welcome you to be my friend over there. I am not exactly sure how to send messages here, but if someone wants to “show” me how, I would appreciate that. I am here for the whit and the snark, and I again apologize for taking this recap to a personal level. I am just alittle younger then some of the posters here, and thought that you all could help me out, give advice and words of wisdom..

    @baxter & classy, thanks– if I knew how to personally email you I would

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    Faye
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 7:52 am

    Just to lighten the mood..I worked with a girl name Whitney and she was giving a presentation and the girl doing the slides spelled her name wrong so on the first slide of the presentation, it said “Presented by Whitey _____” hehehee

    Also, did I miss something or has no one addressed the fact that CAT (bless her heart) called Paul “colored” or I’m sorry since she is British “coloured”

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    chemgal
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 8:11 am

    Listen up ladies! The personal stuff is what makes this board so great! Our opinions of these ladies are formed and changed due to our own history. We’ve all had a Jill in our life, a Cat, an Alexis — and sometimes we need to explain why our reaction is so strong.

    My personal experience is that I have been like Cat at a party in which someone I kind of knew made an inappropriate comment without realizing it was racist and said it right to the only two black men in the room. Even when their faces completely changed, the idiot still didn’t realize that she and her comment were the cause of it. I myself did feel the need to defend myself as I was certain they thought I had similar thoughts. Its a tough place to be because again, how do you prove a negative?

    I hope everyone stays on the board. Diversity of thought is imperative – particularly to me – didn’t you all get the memo that I never get our of my house!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I never get to talk to adults!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    katesmom
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 8:11 am

    Prodigal – you put it better than I ever could. Ever since Sarcas joined this board there’s been nothing but dissention and bad feelings. It’s stopped being fun to visit and I now find myself not reading it as much as I used to. Thank you for saying what so many of us are thinking.

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    chemgal
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 8:14 am

    And Allison, don’t apologize for venting. You don’t want to vent to your hubby, because he is probably under a lot of stress as well. Sometimes venting to parents is too much as they tend not to have the response you want or need. And personal friends in the “real world” – sometimes its just better to keep them for fun. People here have been through it and perhaps due to the anonymity offered, are more likely to share what they did to make it through and might be more willing to share how bad it really was at times, yet they still got it done.
    These boards have become like an extended family. Pats on the back and words of support will almost always be offered. Some might complain, but having been here for over a year now, I have seen complainers become part of it themselves.

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    Trister
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 8:24 am

    Hey come on now-Sarcas is great. I read a lot of her posts and they never seem to be sourced from malice. She has her own opinions and states them; from what I can see she doesn’t personally attack anyone, but she does foster her right to defend what she believes (and rightfully so). There’s no need to gang up on anyone, especially someone who, from what I have seen, contributes intellectually and does her best to be considerate of others, even when she doesn’t see eye-to-eye with them.

    Please don’t leave Sarcas-you say how you honestly feel and are respectful of the fact that certain opinions differ from the majority. I heart you!!

    Chemgal, you said it best. “Diversity of thought is imperative.” The personal insights we share with each other here add to the depth of what we say and how we feel. But being personal and taking things personally are different: we are all adults and I believe we can handle differences of opinion without taking it personally.

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    katesmom
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 8:34 am

    Trister – you honestly don’t have a problem with the direction these boards have gone? They used to be filled with humor and insight. Now they are filled with racial quicksand, lectures and lots of animosisty. I respectfully disagree with you that Sarcas is respectful of other’s opinions. I think if you read a history of her comments, you might see what some of us are seeing. I don’t mean to “gang up” on Sarcas, but I care too much about this board and have enjoyed it for too long not to speak up when I see members leaving and good people being lectured and insulted.

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    tvaholic
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 8:38 am

    After going thru 10 pages of Google search results for “singers named Diana,” the only familiar name that popped up besides Ross & Krall was De Garmo, & that’s quite the stretch. Which means…I have far too much free time & need a life.

    I’m sorry to see things go down the same road here as they did on the RHNJ boards a while back, but I hope no one completely cuts out personal references. I was trying to figure out the other day, yet another day with too much free time,why some of these RHs demand any attention from me at all. I think it’s twofold: first, some of these women have lifestyles that I will most likely never partake in, and also engage in behavior that I hope to never imitate. It’s the same fascination I have with the series “Gangland,” a world so far away from my own I can’t help but be interested. And second, for reasons protrayed on these comments boards, the familiarity: with current issues like the economy, recurring themes like racism, or how some of these people are just like people we deal with in our own lives.

    SO I guess it’s escapism mixed with a relatability (sp?) on some level. Like Cat-haven’t we all known someone who speaks without thinking then is surprised people are offended? And what about knowing someone who seemed to be living the high life then you find out it was a house of cards, & because they are douchebags you are secretly enjoying their comeuppance? (I’m looking at you Salami & Giuduces!) And as far as escapism-I would love to jet over to France or Italy, or have hairdresser & stylist, or Mary’s huge-ass bathroom & closet!!! Sorry, I’ll end my essay on the Social Impact of the Real Housewives now, & get back to work!!

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    tvaholic
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 8:45 am

    @chemgal-I just posted my comment & saw your new one-we must be on the same wavelength!

    And I just realized I compared the RH’s to gangs. Hmm, really not that far off-their both territorial, react vehmently & sometimes violently to all threats whether real or just perceived, they all drink A LOT, there’s lots of partying, & people are always being asked to take sides. There may just be more tattoos on Gangland.

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    marijai
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 9:01 am

    @Allison…definitely call the student loan people and talk to them. You can get a forebearance for up to 12 months. I know because I just got a 6 months forebearance. It’s not that I’m trying to get out of paying, I’ve paid almost 6 years worth of payments on time. They will not give you a hard time about it and they were able to do all of my paperwork over the phone. I told them I had experienced a drop in income and it was no problem.

    You, Chem, Robin, Cheez, and everyone else who is trying to do the right thing with what little they have are all in my prayers that things will improve for you soon. It’s the people like Teresa who don’t pay and leave it to tax payers that pisses me off!

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    Trister
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 9:12 am

    The only problem I have with the boards is the insinuation that a person who cares to engage in a friendly exchange of insight and opinion has no place here. How boring it would be if we all just sat around, posting how right we all were and isn’t it just great we all think the same way???? Where’s the challenge in that? That’s not mind-provoking or particularly interesting. Yes, it’s great to find kindred spirits and minds, but I believe true greatness is being able to consider and examine another point of view objectively and using your newfound insight in a positive way. Whether that means strengthening how you felt in the first place or opening your mind to new ways of thought.

    Look, Robin obviously felt personally attacked and she said as much. At which point, Sarcas APOLOGIZED, admitted she could’ve chosen words more carefully, then explained what she meant to say. I sensed no animosity.

    I don’t feel it’s anyone’s place to police the boards and ask certain members to silence themselves or not to return. As I’ve said before, I have read several of Sarcas’ posts and I think she’s great. So she’s passionate about racism, or what she perceives to be racism? That’s her right. I don’t always agree with her, but I don’t feel she’s trying to directly attack me or my beliefs. I take in what she says, I digest it, agree or disagree, and move on. Which, from what I can tell, is exactly the reaction she seeks to invoke.

    Sarcas can speak for herself and chose (or not) to address what anyone feels about her. This is just my take on her as a poster and this particular situation.

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    katesmom
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 9:26 am

    Trister – I agree with much of what you said. The one thing I don’t agree with is that Sarcas’ comments were always “friendly”. They many times mean-spirited and accusatory. However, at no time did I say she should not post here any more. I just stated my opinion that her comments have not always had a positive impact on this board, and I didn’t like how things have changed nor have I enjoyed the many lectures. Thanks. Love and light

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    herewegoagain
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 9:44 am

    I’m not trying to start anything, but have to say im in agreement about both sacas and robin. There seems to be more attacking of each other since they’ve been posting. If you dont agree with them, you get chastized. Don’t believe me? I disagreed on the last Teen Mom recap and got bitched at by Robin because I didn’t agree with the recappers take. She became so childish I just let it go.

    Was hoping we left all of this crap in Jersey. Guess not.

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    DivaMeeWow
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 9:57 am

    Hello All!

    I read all the housewives recaps religiously and always enjoy the many comments from ALL the posters.

    ChemGal and PCheez are a couple of my favorites. I’ll often read their posts and think “That’s what I was thinking and would’ve said if I, too, had their gift for words!”.

    I’m posting for the first time, because I fear that the harsh critcism of Saracas’ may have an unintentional fallout. That is, I fear posters may feel they need to hold back in their true opinions or be so ultra-pc, that we don’t get a true and diverse comments section.

    The tone of the recap is “snark”. That’s why we all come here, because we love it! I hope the comments section will continue to reflect that love of “snark”!!

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    Bridget Miller
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 10:06 am

    Just from reading the comments that caused problems- I didn’t read anything that was anything more than slightly annoying. I think that people are reading into the comments more than what is actually being said due to a history between commenters, so maybe this time everyone can just let this go pass without it becoming a huge issue.

    Overall, the focus on this board is just about a few commenters and the insights, witty remarks, and observations of all the other people get lost or ignored in the discussion of a few. I am not saying that it is necessary to discuss every single comment, but I feel like the overall conversation does not feel inclusive rather it feels exclusive; going on between or about one or two people. I think that it is great that people discuss how the show relates to their lives, but this is a board about a certain show; not a place to discuss political and/or controversial issues. Personally, I think that it is difficult to conduct a discussion about an issue such as racism on an internet forum. It is such a personal and weighty issue that triggers an emotional response and it is difficult to communicate about a personal level just through words unless you are a writer that has taken the time to develop your own tone of voice. We all know- well anyone that has had an email or comment misunderstood by a friend or has misunderstood an email- how easy it is to misconstrue the tone of a person’s comment and to take it as a personal attack.

    I just have to say that I am get tired of coming here to read a lively discussion of the show and then to start to read the comments and realize that they have nothing to do with the show. No matter what no one should feel like they can comment here or that they should go away because that is just silly and I love reading everyone’s comments that for the most part are funny, insightful, and witty.

    Just on a side note- I some how found my way over to The Pioneer Womens website- what a bunch of nonsense. I made a vaguely negative comment about how she was a master at selling a certain image of ranch life that is very romantic. My comment got deleted then I made a comment about being deleted and it got deleted again. My point being is that I am so happy that Tvgasm allows people to write whatever they want to write- negative or postive- not all websites are like that. So we are lucky that we can speak our minds, no matter what comes out of them.

    Has anyone been reading the crap that the Salahis have been pulling- it is way worse than some comments from Cat that may or may not be racist. They have been engaged in serious acts of fraud- at one event they hosted they charged $2,500 a plate, saying that the proceeds from the event was being donated to charity, but none of that money has been recorded by the charity- that is only one example. Not to mention they haven’t paid their taxes in year and there are also 26 lawsuits against the couple by people who they owe money and/or people who they just took money from.

    I think that Mic got a little taste of money when she met Tareq and Tareq, an unchasmatic, boring, overweight, slubby guy, got a little taste of what it was like to have some arm candy. Mic probably started buying a bunch of expensive shit, asking for more and more things, spending way beyond Tareq’s means and Tareq wanting to hang on to his somewhat beautiful blonde allowed her to spend and spend. Ending them up in a world of financial trouble. Tareq should have never put the pussy on the pedestal.

    It is ridiculous the women that Bravo tries to pass off as affluent housewives. Most of the women appearing on any of these housewives show come off as completely false- it is not believable that they are leading the rich lifestyles that the show is trying to sell to the American women. Bravo is holding up a lifestyle based on wealth and consumption as the fulfillment of the American dream- the American housewife should aspire to leading a life that values consumption over actual achievement. It is a shame that people buy into the bullshit.

    Also the public schools in Mclean where Mary lives are some of the best schools- public or private- in the nation. I should know this because I went to public school in Mclean and I got told this all the time:) But this claim is often supported by studies, reports and rankings. Anyway it would be pointless for Mary to spend her kids to private schools because her kids can get a great education without her having to spend money.

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    bBitz
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 10:48 am

    Hey kids! Who’s fired up?! We’re fired up! You’re fired up! Yeah! Go team!

    Glad you’re all enjoying the recaps and love hearing from you all! Thanks for the compliments and I don’t mind people writing whatever they want at all. It’s great when it’s show-related or snarky or funny (especially when it starts off with praising me – I mean – I’m human!) but it certainly doesn’t always have to be. I’d rather people share instead of reading and not posting. THOSE people are the evil ones! TREACHERY!!! I kid, I kid. Mostly. Hugs! Fuckers. Kidding!

    So as long as I know you’re all enjoying reading, it makes it worth writing. And I’m SHOCKED I haven’t pissed anyone off yet! Am I doing something wrong?! I’ll try harder. Although I’m almost sure I’m going into the Witness Protection Program if Cat ever finds me.

    So keep writing! Keep sharing! Many of you make me laugh and I love reading about stuff I totally didn’t think of or missed. And everyday I’ll come out with a list of people that are wrong. I kid! I keep that list to myself.

    Also, big reveal! Some of you thought I’m a girl in my 20′s – some think I’m a woman in her 40′s. These comments totally made my day. Warms my heart. I’m a gay guy in my early 30′s. However there’s not much of a difference I suppose. Nevertheless, just wanted to be honest! I was a afraid there’d be riots if it came off that I was moonlighting as something I’m not.

    Ok – I’m off to enjoy my one of my last days before I have another recap to write! Until then, keep posting!

    Alison: Good luck with everything! Hope the joys of tvgasm help brighten your day! You can doooo eeeet!

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    kdognatl
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 11:02 am

    Trister and Bridget, THANK YOU!!! Very well said. After reading all the comments I almost forget what a fucking hilarious recap this was for a pretty boring episode. Again BBitz, great job! The commercial screen caps, pure gold.

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    LAC
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 11:43 am

    bBitz – great recap – I had to put my water down once I started reading your hilarious screen cap comments – page 3 with the “Still-owe-me’s” (my new name for those two) just about killed me! You are funny, girl!!

    Allison – since a lot of advice was given – let me give you an internet hug. Hang in there, lady!

    Ladies, I have a way to solve the discord here… (clears throat..) YOU GET A CAR! YOU GET A CAR! YOU GET A CAR! LAAAADIES!! (ahh, Oprah, what will we do without you?)

    Seriously, I barely understood what was said at that party. They all start slurring their words after the third glass of wine.

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    skatt
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 12:00 pm

    PCheez: Sorry you have a cold, but you were pretty fun when you were loaded as “percocetcheez” last time you had something wrong with you, so let’s see what NyquilCheez(?) does.

    Allison: I’m sorry about your situation, especially with your family doing something as wonderful as military service. You are in my happy thoughts and prayers. I wish I could buy you a beer!!!

    Cat is……interesting. She reminds me of Martha Stewart. Her “affect” is off. She’s very cold and aloof to almost everyone, but I think that’s just genuinely the way she is.

    I felt bad Stacie got stuck with the Salami’s. Like BBitz said, she has no idea what she has on her hands with those two. They seem to leave a snail-trail of ick in their wake wherever they go.

    Do we all still hate Theresa?

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    Prodigal Cheez
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 12:06 pm

    Still haven’t watched the fucking episode yet as I’m buried under a pile of Mac repairs…

    When I said I was only commenting on the show from now on, I mis-spoke – what I meant was I’m done interacting with all the racial rhetoric unless it relates directly to the show, which it will. Okay I meant just on this thread, who am I kidding? As for me talking about myself, PUHLEEEZE ladies, how else could I get through these hags if I wasn’t relating to everyone personally.

    Okay – I lied a little bit because I’m off topic again… Here’s the deal, I certainly don’t want@sarcas to leave. And I don’t think ANYONE is coming from a point of malice most definitely not @Robin. As for the comments sections being A) centered around a few, I call bullshit – if that bothers you get on your keyboard and spend too much time like I do spewing half-assed armchair analysis and snark, and B) hostile to people with different opinions, again I call bullshit – put on your big-girl pants and get in the mud with the rest of us, I’ve been known to change my mind. TVgasm isn’t for the faint of heart – Thank GOD or we would be moderated into a pile of pap like the rest of the reality TV whore meccas.

    @katesmom – thanks, I appreciate your point of view too.

    There’s a difference between attacking someone and stating an opinion about how you feel in any given context. We’re all here to express opinions because we’re ALL OPINIONATED people – sometimes that creates conflict, for the most part I think that keeps the juice flowing, but when it goes beyond friendly disagreement and into personal insinuations it’s gone too far.

    @LAC – where’s my damn car?? My check engine light went on today, I probably going to need one!

    Screw love and light, I’m ready for the hard stuff – as my retired, newly-lush parents ACTUALLY say now, “It’s cocktail hour somewhere in the world”. It works a lot better with the visual of my dad wearing crazy pants and pouring a triple scotch, while cocking one eye at the clock.

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    classy drunk
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 12:30 pm

    @ Pcheez, there are probably some people have priorities and WORK at WORK, so they are unable to spend ridiculous amounts of time on the internet gossiping with strangers about women they don’t know. *looks for ointment for chapped ass*

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    sarcasatire
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 12:33 pm

    @PCheez: “@saracasatire – you clearly have had a lot of issues with race on these boards. As soon as someone makes a comment regarding anything having to do with race, no matter how simple, you dissect it and then create a one-sided discourse to EDUCATE us, while shaking your finger at us for never being able to relate to your experiences.”

    This is super-frustrating that this is coming up. I don’t have issues with race on this board and the person that I have ever been in a ‘words war’ with was you, and I only dissected my words after it seemed like you miscintstrued my thoughts.

    But, hey I thought we were past that. I mean, you(Pcheez) and I commented greatly on a Newsgasm article about Dr. Laura and Palin that specifically had to do with race and there was no mud-slinging. However, Robinez stated that the discourse made her uncomfortable.

    With this recap, my comments began at#11. I have only discussed the show, I did not attack anyone, nor did I create dissent by asking the question why Lynda’s comment wasn’t rude yet Erika’s was? If this is considered creating racial dissent PCHeez and Robin, then whatevs. The only topic we were discussing was who said Diana Ross first. So, please, gimme a frigging break.

    @Bridget says: “Just from reading the comments that caused problems- I didn’t read anything that was anything more than slightly annoying. I think that people are reading into the comments more than what is actually being said due to a history between commenters,”

    EXACTLY!!!! Let them take an idea and run with it. I’ll say Cat isn’t racist, another poster will say she will, yet I’ll get called out, for, you know, bringing up race. The recapper will say Lynda was rude, and everyone that replied were assholes, I will specify who said what, calling all comments rude and sarcastic, you I wil be blasted for creating racial dissent. Whatevs.. I think many people choose not to get involved but if the read Robin and my exchange within the 1st 31 comments, I think they are able to see quite clearly what has happened.

    Oh, and PCheez…please do not feel the need to respond and turn this into another dissent creating discussion(which I will untlimately be blamed for). I think you’ve said it all the first time..

    @Trister: “Hey come on now-Sarcas is great. I read a lot of her posts and they never seem to be sourced from malice. She has her own opinions and states them; from what I can see she doesn’t personally attack anyone, but she does foster her right to defend what she believes (and rightfully so). There’s no need to gang up on anyone, especially someone who, from what I have seen, contributes intellectually and does her best to be considerate of others, even when she doesn’t see eye-to-eye with them.”

    Thank you Trister!!! Being accused of doing otherwise makes me feel like no one is reading my posts or there is an intent to try to engage in a flame war with me. But I don’t take myself seriously enough to believe that I am being tergeted, so let’s say some may be skimming my comments and projecting onto them what they THINK I am saying. Not, what I actually am. I then spend several comments defending myself and rendered inarticulte in my frustration at being so heavy-handedly accused. But this time, I will invite anyone to read Robin and my excahnge within the 1st 30 comments and see if I have strayed from what you just stated, Trister. I can imagine they would be hard pressed. (But that doesn’t mean some won’t try…lol)

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    Bridget Miller
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 12:35 pm

    Bbitz: When I saw that you did most of your recapping via screencaps, I was a little disheartened because I thought that your method wasn’t going to be a good way to write an insightful critique of the show. (Not sure why I care so much to begin with. Other than that I am a RH show junkie and don’t have much going on in my life except piles of schoolwork) But anyway. I was wrong. Your recaps completely embody the principle that brevity is the source of wit.

    “Also, big reveal! Some of you thought I’m a girl in my 20’s – some think I’m a woman in her 40’s. These comments totally made my day. Warms my heart. I’m a gay guy in my early 30’s. However there’s not much of a difference I suppose”

    Yes, yes, BBitz, they are the same. But I could tell you were gay because only a gay could be such a master of sliding in subtle snark in seemingly bland comments, sastute enough to catch the various versions of Paul’s hairdo tributes to Whitney and to top if off you made a reference to Designing Women. (no I didn’t have to look it up, since I have a ton of pop culture obsessed gay men in my life) Hey its okay to make generalized statement about the gays when they are complimentary right? Also I have a ton of gay men in my chosen family, so that gives me an excuse right? I am totally joking wasn’t trying to stir up anything, but I should probably leave the jokes up to the professionals.

    (Alright so gay men knowing about Whitney’s various hair incarnations and knowing when it drop an Anthony Bouvier was such a generalized statement)

    I just read over my comment and man all the left out words and/or errors are pretty horrendous. I can’t correct them all, but I would like to correct the one that says: “No matter what no one should feel like they can comment here…” Not that it makes much sense in the way that I originally posted it, but I wasn’t saying no one should feel like they should comment here. But should say: “No matter what no one should feel like they can’t comment here.”

    I also meant to say that Bravo just shows how fabulously luxurious these women’s lives are, shows their endless bank accounts, how they spend on expensive services, take costly trips, throw extravagant parties, buy whatever they want and never do we see the consequences of over consumption, only the rewards. Bravo doesn’t show the financial troubles that some of these women have because a few of the housewives actually do have enough money to back up their excessive consumption and high end tastes. We don’t see the Salahis filing for bankruptcy, Sheree not being able to pay her mortgage, or the foreclosed sign on Teresa’s house. There are times that financial struggles can’t be hidden or aren’t hidden because it adds to the drama of the show: Lynne getting kicked out of her rental house, Tamra downsizing their house, Jenna selling her jewerly off, etc. Viewers want to see how the upper class live, but also want to see some bad things happen to them, to see the rich get their due. So we also get to see their struggles, but overall the show tries to pass off these women as extremely rich without a care in the world because their wealth has set them free. And viewers are buying into it. When I watch the show I don’t believe that these women have anymore money that most middle class families. Well with the exception of a few like Bethanny, Vicki, Kandi real houswives of Atlanta, Jill, Ramona and Caroline.

    In general, most of the shit going on the world creates in me feelings of indignation and outrage. Causing in me a desire to rant and rave. I am so happy that I can come here and rant about the RH franchise and that there are people here that see through the all the bullshit of these fame whores.

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    chemgal
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 12:46 pm

    Jesus Lord, I think I may be the Jacqueline or Kim G or this board! I seem to stir shit without meaning to. It was I in comment #9 who brought up race and to which sarcas responded to. I didn’t do so to stir trouble, but to defend my Cat! My only issue with the response is that I read it at 10ish last night after a long, long day, and I wasn’t clear on the meaning of the response so I waited until this morning – and then all hell broke loose.

    I am hoping no one ever feels like not contributing to the boards – the more the merrier. I myself have only attacked anyone (to my knowledge, please correct me if I’m wrong) and it was on a Bethenny board after being told I resent my children. Then, the gloves came off. I’m not picking up “attacked” vibes here from any of the posts. I have wondered a few times about word choice – but again, communicating via email/boards/blogs is hard as the finer nuances allowed when speaking are missing.

    Anyway, I know you will all work it out – you simply must! We must save all our hate for those that deserve it, Hitler, Stalin, Teresa, and stillowemes. And soon, Alexis will be back, so some hate should be stockpiled for that bitch and not wasted.

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    Alison Zimmerman
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 12:48 pm

    @skatt-Thank you but please save your money on beer…I drank my first beer in over a year lastnight, and couldn’t drink it all! Could it have been cause I went with the cheap favorite Budwiser? Nah, Probably all the emotions for getting fired, to going to the Dr for test results.

    I will have to say the only thing that is keeping me relatively sane is the fact that I can come here and rant/vent and most of you know what I am going through. I hate that this is happening to you guys as well. I feel for @chemgal because I would not know what I would do with all of my medical expenses if they weren’t fully covered by hubby. Hell if Bravo wanted to do a “real housewives show”, they should do RHW-TVGasm, then they would see some real housewives. If I were offered that, I just might sign up. Then I would ask BB to recap and would laugh my ass off at all the snarky shit he would say about me Because most of it would probably be true, then in my Bravo blog, I would not sit there and lie about all the things that ARE actually happening in my life, the good, that bad, and the ugly. Hmmm now I just go myself an idea!!! I keed! Who the fuck would want to watch that? I would be the boring one that we all talk about and pick apart!!

    I do think that the Salami’s are the Guidices of the DC franchise. It just didn’t take us as long to figure that shit out, becuase they were all over the media even before this season started. I have read all the NJ blogs on Bravo, and the only one that has not commented yet is Tree…

    @lac–her is a big hug right back!!

    @bBtiz–your snark and humor and everyone else on here do brighten my day! Much love. Much love dude! Enjoy your day off, and can’t wait for your recap of tomorrows eppi!

    @bbtiz-

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    chemgal
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 12:51 pm

    @Bridget, we were on the same wavelength, I was going to make a joke about Bbitz being gay and not being able to continue reading anything done by a gay man along the lines of Cat’s comments to Paul – but again, it sounded okay in my head but wasn’t sure how it would come across in text!

    My college roommate grew up in Mclean, would have graduated between 89/90. She loved it.

    @classy drunk – get your chapped ass back to work.

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    slowfizz
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 1:11 pm

    Sarcas – how perfect. You write your own very lengthy list of opinions and then tell Prodigal not to bother to respond. How nice it would be if we could all say any darned thing we wanted and then have the authority to tell people they cannot respond with THEIR opinion on the issue. Hysterical. Oh, by the way – don’t bother responding to this. You said it all the first 200 times.

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    sarcasatire
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 1:21 pm

    @Chemgal: First off, thank you for you insights. However, please allow me to clarify your statement, “It was I in comment #9 who brought up race and to which sarcas responded to.”

    Not entirely accurate, although I can see how one may have gotten that impression. I was actually responding to Robin’s comment #5 about how Erika was a troublemaker for her comment. My comment #11 was the first I made on the board and I asked, Why was Erika’s comment rude, yet Lynda’s wasn’t? Robin had a big problem with Erika’s comment because she even brought it up on the NJ Housewives recap several days ago. So, I just asked her why was it more offensive than Lynda’s?

    It seemed as if Robin perceived Stacie to have called herself “Diana’ first, and I explained it was in fact Lynda who did so, which made Erika and Stacie reply sarcastically to each other. I don’t there was any malicious intent behind Lynda’s words (anymore than with Mary’s finger-wag) but I diplomatically stated that I could see why Erika was annoyed because there was absolutely no connection between Stacie and Diana Ross..well, besides the obvious.

    @Chemgal – were you defending Cat in reference to my statement? *double-checking* actually your comment preceded mine so it couldn’t be. But let me state again that I have no issue with Cat. I was confused, however, at why she was offended when it didn’t seem like Erika/Stacie’s sarcasm comments were directed at her. That’s why I felt her convo with Paul was staged. I mean, she could’ve easily pulled Stacie to the side, right? Either way, I think she and Paul were endearing together. I think he’s a great addition because is a good listener for the ladies to vent and gossip but doesn’t come off 2-faced or gossipy.

    Oh..and this is exactly what I stated in the above comments…if these views cause racial dissent then I don’t know what to tell you. (not directed @chemgal!..generally speaking) If you think I am wagging my fingers at you, or chastising you for not relating to my experience, then you are reading far too deeply into my comments. So much so that you are seeing something that isn’t there.

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    sarcasatire
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 1:25 pm

    @Slowfizz..sure. jump on the bandwagon. The more the merrier. First off, the comments were between Robin and I, which I went to be thinking were resolved. I wake to find others have joined in with lengthy discussion of why they think I am a troublemaker. Which only seems to cause more trouble. PCheez stated her opinions first, then I stated mine. I’m hoping we can move past it but there are some issues on which we will never agree, so why keep talking in circles?

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    slowfizz
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 1:28 pm

    Ummmm Sarcas, it’s a comment board, which means it’s open to anyone and everyone. To say that the comments are meant to be just between two people on the board doesn’t make a whole lot of sense and kind of goes against the whole point of a comment board. Also, you must have A LOT of time on your hands!

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    sarcasatire
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 1:37 pm

    When did I say comments are only meant to be between two people? I was saying that Robin and I were engaged in a discussion, which we resolved on our own! So to wake up to all of this ‘dissent’ is actually a bit ridiculous. Seriously, where do you get off, Slowfizz?? My only point is that I didn’t want to engage in a back and forth on the same topic each week with PC heezwhen we can just respectfully agree to disagree.

    If I have alot of time on my hands, then you must have very little because you cannot even read the comments correctly. Or you get easily confused. Or it doesn’t matter what I say…your opinion is already formed.

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    ohralphie
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 1:44 pm

    I think Erika and Ebong most likely joke amongst themselves about race — she probably just continued doing it without realizing not everyone (Stacie) would understand where she is coming from.

    As for Mary….I think she is probably a nice person and no doubt not a racist but she does try to overcompensate her non-racism to the point where it becomes weird (head roll and two snaps!!) I think we are all guilty of having done that to one extreme or another i.e. I had an X friend in college etc… Whether its about race or sex or religion or any number of ‘hot’ topics doesn’t really matter, I think most of us can completely relate to Mary and Erica and perhaps that is why there is a certain sensitivity towards Stacie’s judgement (or perceived judgement) about any racist sentiments they may have.

    I know I look back at things I’ve said or not said over the years and just cringe and hope that I didn’t inadvertently insult the people I was trying to befriend.

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    slowfizz
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 1:47 pm

    I don’t think I’m the one getting confused here. But, you are right, I don’t have nearly enough time in my day to go back and re-read all the comments, and then cut and paste the comments, and then comment on the comments numerous times. It must be nice though.

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    Tiredofthebandwagon
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 1:48 pm

    Sarcasatire may “have A LOT of time of her hands” but Slowfizz you are pretty obnoxious. Guess you don’t need much time for that though.

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    Prodigal Cheez
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 1:51 pm

    @classy drunk – LOL!! I’m sending you some virtual Boudreaux Butt Paste, now quit whining about your poor chapped ass!! Meanwhile, I’m digging out a computer to watch this Godforsaken show on so I can get to the meat of the matter – I wish I could post a picture, I’m sitting behind 7 machines all running software and a pile of logic boards – so, in other words I’m hiding…

    Damn you TVgasm – you win again!

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    sarcasatire
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 1:51 pm

    THANK YOU: @Bridget, @Trister, @chemgal, @Divamewow, and all those who have read my comments with an open mind. The last comment I made was #30 before I awoke to some shit-stirring dragging me into a fracas that I had no place in. I never brought up the topic of race (except to say Cat wasn’t racist!), I never wagged my finger at anyone for disagreeing with me or not ‘relating’, nor have I belittled others for their beliefs.

    If you believe otherwise, then please provide proof by highlighting my comments verbatim. Other than that, stop throwing wild accustations and hoping they stick.

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    slowfizz
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 1:51 pm

    Thanks Tired. Your opinion means more to me than I can say.

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    Prodigal Cheez
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 2:00 pm

    @slowfizz – I keep seeing your name, and thinking Sloe Gin Fizz… Join me? LOL.

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    slowfizz
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 2:03 pm

    That’s funny Prodigal! That’s actually how I came up with the username – I used to love those drinks. I’m ready – let’s have one now!

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    chemgal
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 2:05 pm

    @sarcasatire – my only “issue” (which it really isn’t but I have never been a leader, always a follower, and besides, I feel left out!) so to begin again, my only issue was I wasn’t sure if you were clear on what I had meant during my first comment, based on your response. I myself didn’t like Lynda’s comment, to be honest, I didn’t like the whole “soul sister” conversation, and I believe Cat got upset because she was the only one who knew exactly what had upset Erika and Stacie. Lynda was either too oblivious or drunk by that point.

    I think I forgot too to send out a big congrats to Allison – I think you’ve mentioned twice an incredible weight loss, no?

    @pcheez, off the subject (who, me?) I have a macbook that I use for my personal stuff and have to replace the family computer. you mentioned mac’s – do you recommend? Our state gives every kid one from 6th grade on to use so thought it would be good to get the kids use to it, plus its all they use in schools. heard good things about viruses not infecting mac’s and my son’s hitting the age that he’ll be tempted to download bubbies.

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    tvaholic
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 2:06 pm

    People, puh-leez! We are losing site of the only truth we all seem to agree on….we hate Teresa!!!

    Oh shit, wrong show. I hate the Salahis!!

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    tvaholic
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 2:12 pm

    Is hate too strong of a word? About if I say that I “love to hate” them?

    And @ Alison-I’m so sorry about your situation & please thank your husband for your service. Sorry, I kept menaing to say something before but was geting caught up in the drama-it’s like my parents are fighting! And I feel like I need to say something nice-don’t get me wrong, I love criticizing & judging these people I don’t know personally, but sometimes the little angel on the left shoulder wins out over the devil on the right.

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    tvaholic
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 2:14 pm

    Ok, can’t type anymore. Meant to say “How about if…”, and there are several typos, sorry. But Dule’s nice to look at, yes?

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    Libithina
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 2:16 pm

    Alls I know is that all black men hate condoms, all white men can’t jump, all Jews love money and minivans, all Indians love coupons, all Orientals can’t drive, all women don’t have a concept of money, all people from the South have babies at 15, all gay people have AIDS and all white people can’t dance. (stereotypes are hilarious!)

    Can’t we all just make jokes about how ridiculous and dumb these housewives are when they open their mouths? We all watch these stupid shows, we’re on the same team. Let’s hate the housewives and not each other. (I feel like the Coke commercial from the 70′s/80′s) Besides, we all (this all is actually serious) have waaaaaay too much time on our hands, with the fact that we watch the show, read about it, and then comment on it, and a lot of us are doing this for several shows! But hell, if Sarah Palin has taught me anything, it’s that its my constitutional right to not use my free time more efficiently by furthering my education or catching up on work, I’m pretty sure TVGasm and Bravo are mentioned in the 15th Amendment, but what do I know? I went to public school. Now excuse me, my bong is calling me.

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    Prodigal Cheez
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 2:17 pm

    @chemgal – I do recommend Mac’s very highly, I’m actually an Apple Specialist which means I have the same basic skill-set as the Apple Store, but I’m independent.

    Mac’s are great for kids, they’re durable and the OS has a fabulous parental control feature built in so you can totally control where they go on the internet. It’s a UNIX based platform – so there are virtually no viruses, and it’s very stable. UNIX also means you can run both Mac OS and Applications as well as Windows 7, and run Windows apps in a native environment. Let me know what your thinking for a family machine and I’ll get you the specs, and hook you up with Small Dog – who are the Mac gurus up in your neck of the woods – LOTS of Mac-heads up there, or a Specialist in Maine.

    Specialists are great because we have more versatility in some respects, and can research and support solutions for unique users, special needs for example.

    I’ll shoot you my email via PM tonight.

    @tvaholic – I hate Teresa!

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    classy drunk
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 2:17 pm

    Hey guys, I think we addressed the “I’m sorry’s”, “thanks for understanding me when no one else will”, and the response to such posts more than a whore’s panties come off.

    I think we can move on.

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    Prodigal Cheez
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 2:19 pm

    @classy drunk, I’m sorry – but I really do think you get me. XXOO LOL

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    sarcasatire
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 2:20 pm

    @Chemgal: “I myself didn’t like Lynda’s comment, to be honest, I didn’t like the whole “soul sister” conversation, and I believe Cat got upset because she was the only one who knew exactly what had upset Erika and Stacie. Lynda was either too oblivious or drunk by that point.”

    That’s basically exactly what I was saying as to why Erika got upset, why I didn’t understand why some thought she was rude and not include Lynda in the equation.
    The only difference is that you, Chemgal, have consistenly admitted to being the one who brings up race in the discussion. Yet, I am consistently the once who gets called out for it. Furthermore, you and I consistently agree on POV’s like the one above, yet you are regarded as insightful and I am accused of causing racial dissent.

    @TVaholic..how can you hate someone who smiles with their entire face? Michaele is an exquisite creature..from her jutting sternum to her pointy kneecaps. Tareq is a distinguised marshmallow for those of us with elegant sweettooths. I, for one, have always had sophisticated tastes…

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    tvaholic
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 2:21 pm

    @classy drunk-would that be a “prostitution whore?”

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    classy drunk
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 2:28 pm

    @ tvaholic, well of course. It would only be fitting in this forum.

    @P Cheez, well we are classy gals so we understand each other

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    tvaholic
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 2:30 pm

    @Sarcas-you forgot to mention her Bugs Bunny front teeth. I think that’s why she smiles all the time, she can’t close her mouth. Or she’s just always high.

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    tvaholic
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 2:34 pm

    Oh-and bBitz-just wanted to say I loved the recap, and the picture of Cat with her little Gollums will be giving me nightmares, so thanks for that!

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    sarcasatire
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 2:41 pm

    @tvaholic..Oh no u di’int! those teeth have nothing to do with a rabbit. Hurumph! You know how they say people look like their pets? Well, what we are witnessing is Michaele evoke the beauty of the always lovely, always dignified, Sparkles. (who unfortunately has less to smile about these days) hehe

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    sarcasatire
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 3:02 pm

    Wow, sorry guys for drudging this up but something has come to my attention. Between comment #28 and what is now comment #29, Robin posted a comment last night that I was calling/implying she was a racist in my previous comments. However, her comment is no longer there! Now, it looks as if my reply (the NEW #29) is coming from nowhere and completely skews the perspective.

    I don’t want to drag this thing on in the least, and am only bringing it up because I never knew one could go back and delete their comments.

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    slowfizz
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 3:04 pm

    OMG SARCAS. STOP IT ALREADY! Can’t you see everyone is trying to move on? What’s the matter with you???

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    sarcasatire
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 3:14 pm

    Slowfizz…please ignore my comments. They seem to get you way too riled up. I wasn’t reentering into a discussion of what was previously discussed. I was stating that a comment that I replied to ‘magically disappeared’, which has given me the perspective of why some viewed my comment as accusatory.

    Also, stating with wonderment that I didn’t know TVgasm allowed one to delete posts.. it can skew perspectives because we never know which comments are initial comments and which ones are replies..

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    slowfizz
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 3:22 pm

    The only reason I can think that you were back re-reading all of the comments was to start the whole issue up again. You seem to be a really smart lady – I wish you were able to be a little more sensitive to the other people on this board and stop with the negativity.

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    Prodigal Cheez
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 3:24 pm

    No one can delete comments except the site moderators.

    Okay – I finally watched this show, I have SO MUCH dish, but I actually really am going out for a drink.

    Quickly — How fake could Missy have been when Stacie was talking about her mom? WTF – All she did was parrot back everything she said, and add “I would do the same thing”. IDIOT. And what was up with that leather jumpsuit, are you kidding me?? She looked like a reanimated Charles Lindberg with a Cryptkeeper weave. I wonder if Tareq is really the missing Lindberg baby?

    I’m warning everyone ahead of time, if I get on here later I might be drunk!

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    slowfizz
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 3:27 pm

    Prodigal – I’m beginning to think the ONLY way to view this board is to be drunk! Have a slow gin fizz for me!

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    sarcasatire
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 3:30 pm

    @ SlowFizz: “The only reason I can think that you were back re-reading all of the comments was to start the whole issue up again” Please, don’t assume you know what I was doing. That is inciteful and obnoxious. Only address my comments, do not speculate. You know what happens when you assume..

    @PCheez… Curiouser and curiouser… Robin’s comment was pasted in several times, like as if Ctrl +V was hit numerous times, repeating the same comment. Which was why I jokingly said, “So much for saying it once!” Hmm..I guess that could be why the moderators deleted it. Maybe there was a glitch in the system?

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    slowfizz
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 3:32 pm

    Sarcas – I made my assumption based on what I’ve seen from you on these boards before. A lot of going back and cutting and pasting comments and making more comments and keeping the flames going. I’m sure you’ll deny that, but that’s sure how it seems to me. I’m entitled to my opinion, which I know is difficult for you, but I’m sticking with it nonetheless.

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    sarcasatire
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 3:41 pm

    Who’s dragging shit on now???? Seriously, Slowfizz…move the hell on, puh-leeze! You seem to have too much time on your hands if you are on here rehashing what you say I’ve done on other boards. Talk about bringing up old arguements.

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    Flipit
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 3:41 pm

    For the record, robin’s comment was deleted because the system posted it like twenty times. Sorry bout that.

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    slowfizz
    Posted August 25, 2010 at 3:47 pm

    Sarcas, I know, also from reading these boards, that the “back and forth” with you can go on indefinitely, so I am respectfully bowing out so that we don’t bore everyone else here with this petty argument. As Caroline would say, “have a nice life”!

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     sarcasatire
     Posted August 25, 2010 at 3:56 pm

     @Slowfizz..your petty arguement was one-sided, full of accusations based on assumptions. I’ve asked you to move on several posts ago, but if the only way for you to do so is to think it was your own idea, then so be it. As long as we both agree.

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     Pixielated
     Posted August 25, 2010 at 4:02 pm

     Well, @sarcas might be long-winded and sometimes over-analyzes things, but I don’t believe she ever gets personal. If her comments offend anybody, they are free to skip them.

     @Flipit, thanks for deleting the redundant, repeated posts. They are annoying to wade through.

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     katesmom
     Posted August 25, 2010 at 4:09 pm

     I think both slowfizz and sarcas had some valid points, but it’s nice to see they are moving on. I didn’t think slowfiz got any more personal than sarcas has in her posts, but maybe I missed something. There’s so many nice, funny and articulate people (like Progigal)who post here, and I really enjoy the snark and the funny comments that people make. Can’t say I really enjoy the “heavy” political/racial stuff, but sometimes that just goes with the territory. I just love BBitz and can’t wait to read his next recap!

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     katesmom
     Posted August 25, 2010 at 4:10 pm

     I mean “prodigal”, not “progigal”! Sorry Prodigal Cheez!

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     chemgal
     Posted August 25, 2010 at 8:12 pm

     Freakin A!! I missed comment 100, breaking the family tradition. I hate Teresa!

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     Savannah
     Posted August 25, 2010 at 8:56 pm

     @Prodigal Cheez et al.–I couldn’t agree with your earlier post more. I don’t post often on these boards, but I read the hilarious recaps religiously, along with the comments. I don’t post often, exactly because of the hostile ad hoc, lecture-like replies that seem to emanate from *certain* poster(s).

     This board is (or was) so un-PC, like we are the high school students and the teacher is home sick and we are all sitting around in homeroom bullshitting and having fun, because, let’s face it, homeroom isn’t a place for “growth” in the first place. So when a substitute teacher comes in and actually tries to teach us ancient Greek principles, we are going to look on in wonderment, or, at least it is not going to be as fun as it used to. (Yes, that metaphor was quite tortured, sorry bout that).

     It also adds insult to injury when the vast majority of the posters show polite disdain for the PC police, and those *certain* poster(s) go on a witch hunt and not only use ad hominen attacks on those who dare to challenge the wisdom of turning this forum into a roundtable UN discussion. Then these *certain* poster(s) go into excruciating, hair-splitting detail as to what said poster meant in his/her earlier post, which only serves to perpetuate the heavily nuanced and, frankly, boring, race/ethnicity/culture/education/I read race into everything nomenclature.

     Now that I know that lots of you agree with me(in addition to the former re-capper who emailed me personally last time someone reacted extremely aggressively to me on these boards), I may be a bit quicker to speak up next time, although, frankly, I find the height of Lynda’s eyebrows and Paul’s ‘Whitneys’ must more interesting than a seminar in social studies.

     Oh, and since I bet dollars to doughnuts this post is going to get a swift reaction from *certain* poster(s), I will allow you to skip the speculation and let you know I am a young, highly educated white female who does not consider myself a minority. Does this make me less qualified to comment on the racism and non-racism that occurs on this show? Mehopes it will soon cease to be a major issue, but we shall see…

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     2muchbravo
     Posted August 25, 2010 at 11:08 pm

     OMG! I have a feeling race is going to come up again and again. Can we puh-lease not rehash this bullshit after every recap? Looks like everyone’s got it out of there systems. Let’s agree to disagree on whatever. Respect each other’s opinions and move on. I just want to read bBitz’s great recaps and snark on these bitches.

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     Tvsnarkling
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 6:21 am

     Savannah, As a fellow “low number poster” and long time reader, All I can say is “BRAVO!!”

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     tvaholic
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 6:47 am

     @Savannah-I’m just pissed you said “doughnuts” cuz now I want one. Mmmmm……doughnuts….

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     classy drunk
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 7:15 am

     @chemgal, I was pretty pissed I missed #100 also. Tvaholic we have Krisp Kreme’s in my office today. I will email you a few.

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     LAC
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 7:40 am

     “…more than a whore’s panties come off.”
     classy drunk

     I am going to start some shit up in here, classy drunk – where do you get off bringing Danielle from RHONJ up in here?!?!? This is the DC Housewives, OH-KAY?

     

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     katesmom
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 8:44 am

     Savannah – you are my hero!

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     Camille
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 8:57 am

     Hi there.

     I am also a frequent reader, almost never poster but I decided to enter into the fray. I’ve been reading the Hw recaps for several sns and have gotten to know quite a few ‘posters’, albeit, from a distance.

     It does seem as if there are “Veterans”. The veterans can propose any topic, can speak from any perspective, and can decide when the matter is to be dropped. I have seen some Veterans go from sweet and articulate to calling posters bitches and assholes. Now, there are just a few that I have seen personally attack others but it makes things a bit intimidating for the “Fresh Meat.”.

     “Fresh Meat.” (can you tell I watch way too much MTV?) The Fresh Meat posters only seem to rock the boat when they are opinionated and/or when their views go against those of the Veterans. I find Sarcasatire falls into this category. Actually, from reading, her comments about race aren’t contrary to the others’ but some seem to take more issue with the ‘source’ than the comment.

     I have seen many posts on here about race/racism but only Sarcas’ were attacked. Here is my theory. I wasn’t going to comment until Savannah made the following statement: “I will allow you to skip the speculation and let you know I am a young, highly educated white female who does not consider myself a minority. Does this make me less qualified to comment on the racism and non-racism that occurs on this show?”
     It made me realize the conflict here. It’s not discussing race, per se, that is uncomfy. It is discussing it with minorities, or those different from us white women/men because there will always be a slight suspicion that fingers are being pointed. I say this because, Chemgal, a friendly Veteran, has admitted a few times to having been the one who introduced race/racism topics but no one addresses that or feels uncomfortable with her comments. (I have also noticed that Chem and Sarcas are usually make similar comments regarding race)
     So, if it’s not what’s being said..maybe it’s who’s saying it?

     Anyway, just my 2cents. If you disagree, please be kind.

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     Bionic Television
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 9:45 am

     Yep. Camille’s right.

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     Tiredofthebandwagon
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 10:03 am

     “It does seem as if there are “Veterans”. The veterans can propose any topic, can speak from any perspective, and can decide when the matter is to be dropped. I have seen some Veterans go from sweet and articulate to calling posters bitches and assholes. Now, there are just a few that I have seen personally attack others but it makes things a bit intimidating for the “Fresh Meat.”.”
     Couldn’t have said it better myself. As much as commenter’s love to point out obnoxious behavior in the real housewives, such as bullying (Jill Z.), following (Luaan) and pack mentality (Caroline and co), I see the same types of behavior shown by these same commenters. It is getting worse with each recap and frankly it has become quite tiresome.
     IMO bitchy behavior per se isn’t a bad thing if you are independent (like Cat). It’s just the followers of said behavior that irk me.

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     Y3KPhenom
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 10:09 am

     @Camille – That seems like a reasonable take on the situation. Thanks for your 2cents. I have been reading for years and sometimes reading the Comments section is just painful. And I love reading the hilarious comments some of the readers come up with! Here’s hoping for a little more understanding.

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     Prodigal Cheez
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 10:33 am

     Camille is wrong. And since her post was essentially a thinly veiled attack on me, I’ll take the liberty of responding.

     I am not sweet, I am opinionated. I rarely call anyone names, but when I do it is ALWAYS in response to something outrageous they have said; for instance @Kabob insulting Honey G’s intelligence, writing, research, etc. Recappers are limited in what they can say back to us to some extent; if someone doesn’t like a particular recapper then they should move on, I’m personally not going to tolerate someone being attacked on an uneven playing ground.

     If “Fresh Meat” want to open their dialogue with an insult and they find me intimidating, then good. Fuck them, they don’t add anything to anyone’s experience here.

     I also think you’re mistaking TROLLS for “Fresh Meat”. Two come to mind, @Janelle, and @Crappy Senior. I will blast anyone out of the water who thinks they can come and stir the pot with a bunch of incendiary bullshit. BTW – Most of us believed @Crappy Senior was either Gloria Kamen or Jill Zarin -so if I succeeded in being intimidating and insulting there, then I want a medal.

     The so-called conflict about race here is a continuation of an accusation made against Twunty a few weeks ago, an accusation made by one-time poster/troll @Janelle. @saracas picked up the ball and ran with it, and most of were very upset because in addition to the insinuation of racism in Twunty’s writing, she insulted her by asking for someone else to pick up the slack for her. @sarcas and I have some issues, but in general get along fine outside of this context. So you are wrong Camille, @sarcas was not the only person I took issue with regarding racism, I took issue with @Janelle as well.

     @sarcas is a big girl, and an exceptionally articulate and bright one at that, she made a choice in championing a point of view here and now she’s in a position where I and some others are taking issue with the SEMANTICS and the style with which it’s being handled. The fact is there is a Black American sitting in the White House, and the nature of the debate is changing, and being redefined. This is a good thing, but it’s complicated and fraught with complicated sea-changes in our collective consciousness -I have a long and positive history on this issue, and as @chemgal says, when I am prevailed upon to address or prove a negative I find it beyond frustrating. @sarcas is younger than I am, and as much as I respect her on many other things, I do not like to feel as if I am being lectured or “schooled” on topics I have not only studied, but actively championed myself. I don’t go into my personal history with this because frankly it isn’t anyone’s business and it isn’t really relevant here. The bottom line is that being raised as a White, upper-middle class woman from a small town I will never understand or relate to A LOT of different people in this country no matter how I may have arrived at my beliefs regarding race, class or religion.

     I have demonstrated ZERO discomfort discussing race with the Black women on this board, so you are wrong there as well. In fact, what I realized last night when thinking about this is that the dialogue @sarcas and are having is heated, but it’s also just about as honest as two people can be about their respective frustrations over an issue that just plain shouldn’t be one, but is nonetheless.

     I do not NOT respect @sarcas, quite the opposite in fact. If I didn’t respect her, I would do what I do with anyone else I dislike, I would ignore her after a point. I have ended my participation in the debate here, then gone over and laughed my ass off with her on another thread. And that brings me to my next point, CHOOSING to stop a dialogue when it is clearly broken, is not deciding arbitrarily that the subject will be dropped. Obviously, the subject wasn’t dropped – your post being proof positive of that along with a few others.

     I deeply resent YOUR accusation that the only reason anyone’s reacting to @sarcas negatively in regards to this issue is because of her race, I know you didn’t intend this but you kind of prove both her point and mine. I’ll let you think about that and come to your own conclusions. At any rate, making that assumption is pretty much calling almost everyone who disagreed with @sarcas out as racist, isn’t it? I’ll give you fair warning right now, I will NEVER accept that in any form whether as an inference or a plain statement, and I will most definitely aggressively defend my stance.

     “It does seem as if there are “Veterans”. The veterans can propose any topic, can speak from any perspective, and can decide when the matter is to be dropped. ”

     So what. @saracs had no problem coming in as “Fresh Meat” and doing all of that and more. Some stuff she says I agree with, some stuff I don’t, big deal. I started out as “Fresh Meat” just like everyone else, and I was just as opinionated in the days of B-Side and J-Unit as I am now – some people liked me then, some didn’t – who cares?

     @Savannah – I’m glad you’re posting and I hope you continue to do more of it, I have always really enjoyed your posts – and am a long-time admirer.

     In keeping with the family tradition: I hate Teresa.

     PCheez – Resident Bitch

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     classy drunk
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 10:47 am

     Is this horse that we are beating dead yet? If not can we shoot it or would PETA be to upset?

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     katesmom
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 10:50 am

     PCheez – I was sitting here trying to calm myself down so I could send a reply to Camille’s incredibly insulting comments, when yours posted and said everything I wanted to say and more. I couldn’t say it better, so I just want to add my support to your comments. We have now been called racists and I, along with you, will not sit back and let that happen. I also, like you, feel no need to share my personal history to prove I am not a racist, but I will go on record as saying her veiled accusations are wrong and (to repeat myself)extremely unfair and insulting. Thanks PCheez, for always being so intelligent and articulate. You are my favorite “veteran”!.

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     Prodigal Cheez
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 10:50 am

     I don’t think the horse will be dead until I am @classy drunk. Sorry.

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     Prodigal Cheez
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 10:52 am

     @katesmom – Thanks, I really do appreciate that. XO

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     Bionic Television
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 10:56 am

     This reminds me of my college internet forum when people used to reply to some posts with “TL;DR” (“Too Long; Didn’t Read”). I think I’m gonna bring that one back.

     All I know is that on the RHONY boards I felt mighty intimidated to share any displeasure I had with Bethenny Frankel. True story.

     Love you, BBitz.

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     Prodigal Cheez
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 11:02 am

     @Bionic Television – based on what you’ve posted so far, you probably should be intimidated.

     Was that short and sweet enough for you?

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     sarcasatire
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 11:15 am

     I’m done with this topic, as well, but I will respond to those that address me. Well, the not-so-thinly veiled insult to me by Savannah doesn’t dignify a response. Like on Twunty’s recaps, she waits until the dust has settled and then stirs up shit with a really big spoon.

     I do agree with Camille’s comments. I think it can be looked at in terms of politics..it can get tense when Democratics and Republicans discuss politics because each feel they are coming from opposite sides of the spectrum in regards to experience and perspectives..maybe it’s the same way for some on the subject of race? Anyway..I’m done with that.

     Just wanna clear one thing up with @PCheez. You said, “The so-called conflict about race here is a continuation of an accusation made against Twunty a few weeks ago, an accusation made by one-time poster/troll @Janelle. @saracas picked up the ball and ran with it, and most of were very upset because in addition to the insinuation of racism in Twunty’s writing, she insulted her by asking for someone else to pick up the slack for her.”

     I resent this so much because you are perpetuating a falsehood. My first comment on the board told Janelle that Twunty was in no way being racist! I explained the ape references as having to do with Teresa’s hairline! I also chided Janelle for being catty regarding the timeliness of Twunty’s recaps. But of course, you prolly didn’t read my comment, just fed off of other’s views, jumped on the collective bandwagon, and I was accused of twisting Janelle’s words/defending her because I refused to make the leap from her saying, “smacks of racism” as her calling Twunty an out-and-out ‘racist’ like others did. I did defend Janelle’s perpective by saying that we cannot control what offends others even if it doesn’t offend us. I was trying to be diplomatic and it backfired…bigtime.

     If this is what you’ve been holding against me all this time, then I implore you to read the comment I addressed to Janelle. I also, implore you to find a comment where I called Twunty, or anyone for that matter, a racist. If you cannot locate any, then please let the matter go and stop grouping me with Janelle. It’s insulting.

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     2muchbravo
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 11:24 am

     I’m seriously going to stop reading the comments. This shit is getting vicious. I’ve been reading for awhile but don’t comment very often because either others have covered my thoughts before or I’m afraid my dissenting opinion will get pissed all over. Everyone has a right to comment, good, bad or indifferent, but people shouldn’t be intimidated. That’s clearly what’s happening. People are coming out of the woodwork and admitting it only to get slapped down (thus proving it). I’m just reading the recap for here on out. This bitching, bickering and oneupsmanship is just not worth my time.

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     notwithoutmytv
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 11:28 am

     Bored now.

     If I draw a circle in the sand and dump two butcher knives in the middle of it, will all of you pick two champions of Racist vs. Anti-Racist (and please, don’t try to explain, yet again, what your “real positions” are. As someone said before TL;DR) that will duel to the death for my amusement?

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     Prodigal Cheez
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 11:29 am

     I will do that @sarcas.

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     Bionic Television
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 11:34 am

     Wow. That’s pretty harsh, considering I didn’t even say much of anything. Oh well. Back into obscurity, where I belong, I guess.

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     Prodigal Cheez
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 11:38 am

     Eh, Fuck this. I’m out, it’s been fun for the most part – but I don’t need this.

     My last comment on TVgasm will be: I hate Teresa! LOL.

     XXOO – I’ll miss you guys!

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     katesmom
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 11:41 am

     Prodigal Cheez – I hope you rethink this. You are a big part of why I read this board, and your insights and humor will be greatly missed. Don’t let the yahoos run you off – then they win.

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     Bionic Television
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 11:42 am

     (PS – I miss the days of B-Side, when his recaps of Laguna Beach & The Hills would sometimes get up to 1,000 comments that were all — gasp — about the show)

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     Tiredofthebandwagon
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 11:48 am

     @Prodigal Cheez is out till she decides to come back later on in the day. Heard it all before!
     Most bullies are out once they are called on their crap.
     xoxo

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     tvaholic
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 11:50 am

     Who’d a-thunk the RHODC would generate such debate? I’m seriously not belittling anyone or being sarcastic (which if you knew me is a very hard thing to rein in). At first I was getting worked up over this stuff, kind of like the kid sitting in the bedroom listening to mom & dad argue & trying not to wet the bed out of anxiety. But I have to say that if anything good has come out of a TV show full of people who keep trying to infuse their own social commentary into each episode like a contest to see who is the most liberal/generous/tolerant, is that I’ve been lucky enough to sit here on the sidelines (for the most part) and read some articulate (for the most part) posters debate some social issues of their own. And I think I just won the contest for the longest sentence ever.

     I’m content to let everyone hash things out since I think my own opinion won’t necessarily add anything that hasn’t been said already, but if I pop in with whatever is floating in my head at the time, please don’t see at as a dismissal of the ongoing discussion. See it as my wish to still feel the need to discuss other important things, like Missy’s horse teeth, Mary’s Blair Warner hair, Cat’s awful bangs, and the fact the @classy drunk still hasn’t figured out a way to email me a doughnut.

     Love & light! I hate Teresa!

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     katesmom
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 11:51 am

     Tiredofthebandwagon – your comments are mean-spirited and insulting. If you took the time to read Prodigal Cheez’s comments, you would see that they are well thought out, intelligent and articulate. You could learn a little something from reading them.

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     Angela Parisi LaRoe
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 11:54 am

     I was part of this Twunty discussion on RHONJ that got blown out of context. I was never offended, it is fine, I left it alone. People read into something saying I got offended by something because I am Italian, I told them they were wrong, I only got uncomfortable because I don’t agree with all comments about some stuff. However, I still laugh at shit.

     Everybody has different opinions. We all deal with this is real life. This is the INTERNET. We all come to this site to laugh and talk about how stupid some of the people on these shows are. We then further discuss and make snarky comments. It is called HUMOR. Sorry, but the web isn’t real life just like the shows we watch.

     I like this site and I won’t leave. The recappers work hard to make this site enjoyable and it shouldn’t be wasted. I love JMO, Swellmell, Bbitz, Twunty, Flipit, etc. I come here to read their crap.

     This just has to stop. It doesn’t make this site any fun anymore and it is supposed to be.

     -Angela

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     tvaholic
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 12:00 pm

     Ok-I will pop in with something-I don’t believe P.Cheez is a bully. She is very opinionated & will back up those opinions with explanation, but I’ve never seen her threaten anyone. Since I’ve come back to the Gasm & starting posting comments again, I do know that if you bash a recapper she’ll get on your ass & she’ll tell you why & I agree with her, but that’s a whole other issue. I think @sarcas has a different style & they do seem to butt heads now & again, but they both seem to be big girls who can clearly fight their own battles.

     Besides, systematic bullying is an issue that any RH fan is astutely aware of, and that lesson has been learned thanks to Kelly’s PSA. Now I need to go kiss a colored homosexual man and visit an integrated beauty salon before I get seats for the butcher knife death match.

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     Tiredofthebandwagon
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 12:01 pm

     Problem is I have taken the time to read them. Most of the time they are funny that is until someone says something that she takes offense to, then she goes on the attack. With several paragraphs worth of attack. The person’s only options are to back down or to respond. Hence the long drawn out arguments.
     My comments are only mean-spirited to the people who have been picking on other posters.
     @Katesmom “Prodigal – you put it better than I ever could. Ever since Sarcas joined this board there’s been nothing but dissention and bad feelings. It’s stopped being fun to visit and I now find myself not reading it as much as I used to. Thank you for saying what so many of us are thinking.”
     IMO that is probably as mean-spirited as you can get because it singles out one person and implies that person should leave so everyone can go back to enjoying the boards.
     I’m just not into bullying. Whether it’s done by reality stars. Or posters on TvGasm.

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     notwithoutmytv
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 12:08 pm

     I would like to point out that arguing on the Internet is like taking home the gold in the Special Olympics. Congratulations, you won, but you’re still a retard.

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     marijai
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 12:32 pm

     Damn I hope another recap is posted soon so that we can all MOVE ON.

     @cheez…I hope you don’t leave. Though I may not always agree with you, I appreciate the thought that you put into them and read them. Your comments are always well articulated and sometimes I think “hmm, haven’t thought about it like that”. I hope you reconsider.

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     classy drunk
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 12:39 pm

     @notwithoutmytv, that’s exactly how I feel. HAHAHAHAAAAA!!!

     Hopefully the notes I just spit water on are recoverable.

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     sarcasatire
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 12:45 pm

     “Most of the time they are funny that is until someone says something that she takes offense to, then she goes on the attack. With several paragraphs worth of attack. The person’s only options are to back down or to respond. Hence the long drawn out arguments.”

     Yes..this is true. And i admit to being part of the problem because I never back down. It’s difficult when someone puts you on the defensive while their bandwagon-jumpers like @Katesmom praise them while making meanspirited comments like, “Ever since Sarcas joined this board there’s been nothing but dissention and bad feelings.”

     Yet, I’m sure @Katesmom would be hard-pressed to find any of my comments attacking anyone. But who cares about the truth when we can just throw shit at the wall and hope it sticks?

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     sarcasatire
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 12:54 pm

     To quote a wise philosopher named Michaele, “Why does everyone always pick on the skinny girl?”

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     2muchbravo
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 12:57 pm

     SERENITY NOW!!!!!!!

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     chemgal
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 1:02 pm

     @notwithoutmytv – where the hell have you been? you couldn’t have added your 2 cents earlier before we had people bailing ship?

     I am not going to go back and reread so bear with me here as I try to do this from memory and forgive lack of punctuation.

     first, pcheez can be intimidating, but not in a mean way. she is a smart woman with an incredible grasp of the written word. at times, it can be like going to battle unarmed. i think she is correct that while she and sarcas butted heads regarding one issue, they have for the most part been able to play nicely in the sandbox together. it would be a shame if either of them no longer contributed.

     second, have some of the veterans gone off on a few people. yes, yes we have. but, i think the key point is that those that were seemingly gained up on, came in throwing bombs. they did not simply state an opinion that was contrary to others. they threw molotov cocktails onto the boards and then didn’t stay around. if you go back and look, they dropped a bomb, maybe waited for a reply and said something else, but in most cases never came back – and i don’t think it was because they were scared off by other posters. they never intended to come back, defend their position. other people who may consider themselves newbies have come on, posted dissenting opinions and became a part of the give and take and have remained regular posters or only heard from once in a while.

     there are certain things that will be met with anger – i myself cyber-ly ripped a woman a new asshole when she commented on my resenting my kids – it still burns me up now, 5 or 6 weeks later. and when someone else told me to leave her alone as she was only stating her opinion, i did go back at her and tell her why it wasn’t simply a case of stating her opinion. some veterans from gasm commented as well, standing up for me. i don’t believe it was a case of ganging up on a newbie.

     new opinions are always welcome – it becomes fun to get more than 20 comments on a thread. @bionic television sorry if you felt you couldn’t share. I shared that i don’t care what b says, i think she had and has an eating disorder (on b getting married site) and a few people didn’t like it, but i didn’t find them to be rude. i hope you feel free to contribute in the future on this one because unfortunately mrs hoppy will no longer be joining us on rhony.

     and while some of this shit doesn’t seem to relate to these shows, as someone else pointed out, it is just like them. small stuff becomes big, people feel they haven’t been respected and other feel ganged up on. who ever suggested bravo doing a real housewives of gasm was a genius.

     my two lines in the sand are, don’t insult kids, anyones. and don’t correct people’s grammar and punctuation.

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     susanl
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 1:17 pm

     Love the recap! Very funny for such a boring show. I’ve been watching for the first time Lord of the Rings and great Gollum pictures for the kids (they look amazingly similar).
     Speaking of Cat. Where does she get off telling Chales (“seriously Chales, seriously…Chales…seriously..-Oh shut up!) that she had to stay home, watch her kids, and go to parties whilst he is swanning (or shagging) around.Does she work? Does she really think people want to know about her life? Especially since no one knew who she was until the show debuted.
     Mary, poor Mary. We find her yet again with a wine glass in her hand. You question why she doesn’t know about sexting? See previous sentence. Is she ever sober?
     Stacie is still stuck on the race thing. I think Erika is going to be the Kim G of the group. Like Stacie’s husband. Seems normal…so far…
     Paul/Dwight (RHWATL) has a publicist? What? Why? He really needs to be in Atlanta as all those ding dongs have publicist/assistants/slaves, etc.I did feel bad that the Salamis left him holding the bill for his party. I would definitely make sure the group knew what they did, esp. Stacie who seems to think they are all that and a bag of chips.
     Salamis are still the pretentious twats they were the last two episodes. His “know it all” personality is grating and she’s just plain stupid.
     Lynda, no comments about her this week.

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     sarcasatire
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 1:20 pm

     I’m watching an episode of RHoDC.

     @tvaholic: I hope you didn’t miss the hilarity of Tariq saying while Mic was mounted on the horse’s back, “Sparkles, this is Mrs. Sparkles.” Even he noticed the resemblance.

     I call shenanigans on Lynda’s househunting. She’s lived in an apt and now wants a house when her kids are growing up and moving out? Shouldn’t she have done that in reverse? (But of course this show is all about affluence, so I guess she couldn’t look like a poor, low-class….renter.

     Mary’s face… her cheeks and forehead don’t look bad, but something around her lips..looks like she had a skin graft.

     Notice how Michaele talks in this dreamy, far off voice and both Tariq and Paul mimic it when talking to her. As if, speaking softly and kindly to those Special Olympics contestants Notwithoutmytv coaches.

     (Oh and great insights, Chemgal.)

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     Msjacqmills
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 1:25 pm

     @not withoutmytv…that was the most intelligent thing I’ve read all week! LOL!!

     @cheez …DON’T LEAVE!

     @

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     Trister
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 3:52 pm

     I do think PCheez was something of a bully; I also think she has certain posters who have become something of vigilantes of her word. I got the sense she and others felt like they paid their dues and get to govern the flow of the comment section: what is allowed to be spoken about, when a subject has run its course, what does or doesn’t constitute an outright verbal assault against someone. I just get the feeling that certain posters (such as PCheez) felt they had graduated into unofficial site moderators. Maybe it was just that PCheez and her group had something of a comfortable rapport and just “got” each other-innocent enough, but after awhile, it become something of a clique. Very “if you’re not with us, you’re against us.” I’m sorry, but that’s the truth. I don’t deny she was intelligent and eloquent (if not at times a little preachy, redundant, and hypocritical) and I don’t believe she always realized how Queen B she was. I didn’t mean to write this as a backhanded compliment her…it’s just, well, this is the way it is. At least from my perception. Which I am fully entitled to illustrate.

     Any way, she has bowed out and hopefully, whether or not she decides to return, that era is over with and people can start feeling at liberty to post their viewpoints without gearing up for battle.

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     herewegoagain
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 4:16 pm

     @Trister, she’s not the only one. Go read the last “Teen Mom” recap and because I didn’t agree with the recapper and instead agreed with a commenter who didn’t like the recap, Robinez pretty much told me I shouldn’t be commenting. She got sooooo childish, I just let it go. She’s a bully on the HW recaps too.

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     Libithina
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 4:37 pm

     @notwithoutmytv: I’ve missed you! I’ve been stalking this damn board to see your input, love to see that you didn’t disappoint! Would you consider being my Gasmhusband?

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     Trister
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 4:55 pm

     Herewegoagain: I feel ya on the Robin deal. I got reprimanded by her on that recap as well!! I posted what I thought was some insider scoop (though it was admittedly self-servingly off tangent) and she laid into my ass (and not in the good way)!! She pretty much let it go once I explained myself at little bit, but dayum, she came at me guns ablazin’!!! I think she peaced out from the boards too..

     Which, honestly, it does suck that people are leaving. But I guess if you don’t have a leg to stand on…

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     Trister
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 5:00 pm

     Also, unless I am responding directly to someone, I promise that my next comment will be about the recap, the episode, or the brilliance that is Bbitz.

     Well, I promise to TRY anyway…

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     k37744
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 6:20 pm

     (Poor Mr. Sparkles’ corpse was beaten and beaten….and beaten…)

     How in the world did a woman like Lynda land her boyfriend? That man is fiiiine.

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     whoochile
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 6:32 pm

     WTF! I totally skim all of your shit, if it is over a couple of lines I don’t care. I read all of these comments in 5 mins., All I am looking for is relative to the recap, sorry, but I don’t care about anyone’s pms or menopause or any mental health shit. I have my own shit to deal with and I just want to go to lalaaland within the recap. Maybe a second forum of mental health etc would help.whatever

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     sarcasatire
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 6:39 pm

     “How in the world did a woman like Lynda land her boyfriend?”

     Her big, cork-deflecting ass comes to mind.

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     Mattyzaurus
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 7:50 pm

     Hi! I’m new… well to posting anyway. And I hate Teresa!

     Am I in?

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     sarcasatire
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 8:51 pm

     *sniffing* What’s that smell?

     Fresh Meat!

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     Mattyzaurus
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 9:00 pm

     *hides in Teresa’s single giant ugly vase*

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     sarcasatire
     Posted August 26, 2010 at 11:32 pm

     Oh, Matty…you can run, but you can’t hide!

     Alright Bbitz..I’m gonna need a recap up within the next 12 hrs or I’ll bust! No pressure, or anything.
     Wow, this was the best episode yet! I actually laughed aloud at so many parts..so much was comment-worthy..I should’ve taken notes. AH, whatamIsayin’? Bravo will replay it atleast 40 times within the next 7 days… I’ll have the dialogue memorized by then.

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     Matt Lam
     Posted August 27, 2010 at 12:10 am

     Don’t topple it over please, I don’t want Teresa to steal my forehead.

     I have a question. Why do RH franchises rarely feature “housewives” who really have money? Aren’t the Salahis broke? The Giudices weren’t rich to begin with, and well, the OC HWs are pretty much all broke. Besides the blonde one, who blows for Cartier.

     I think the only one who really has money is Kim G.

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     Matt Lam
     Posted August 27, 2010 at 12:10 am

     Oh wow. My picture is here?

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     sarcasatire
     Posted August 27, 2010 at 12:45 am

     @Matt..when you sign in through facebook, all your biz gets put out there, lol. You can post without signing in, just using ur screenname and email (private). Must enter a captcha code which sometimes screws up so make sure you save your work! (or atleast copy it)

     Real Housewives- money, a husband, and no job: Alexis, Jacqueline, Caroline, Mary, Cat (for now).

     Hwives with money because they bring home some bacon: Vicki, Bethanny (since recently), Ramona, Shill Z.

     Hwives who aren’t wives but successful on their own: Kandi, Lynda

     Housewives with no husband or money (aka Goldigging FAILS): Kim Z, Gretchen, Jo

     Housewives with no jobs or money, but a husband(!): Teresa, Tamara (last season), Michaele, Lynn, Nene, Lisa

     Hwife with a husband, a job, and a middle class lifestyle: Stacie

     Hwives who had it all. Now, no husband = no money: Luann, Danielle, Sheree

     The lucky bitch- no husband but plenty of his money: Kelly Bensimon

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     sarcasatire
     Posted August 27, 2010 at 2:40 am

     Error!

     Hwives with a husband, a job, and a middle class lifestyle: Stacie AND Alex

     The lucky bitchES- no husband but plenty of his money: Kelly and Sonja

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     chemgal
     Posted August 27, 2010 at 5:41 am

     @Matt – you’re kind of fresh meat is more than welcome around these here parts!

     Jeana is another wife you forgot who once had it all and now not so much.

     Back to Cat for a moment. I’m on the fence with the whining to the husband. As a real housewife I look at the house/kids as my current job. Its my job to make sure it all gets done. Occasionally, that does mean hiring someone such as a babysitter or enlisting the help of another mommy to get all my kids where they have to be or hiring a plumber/eletrician. I even take care of the lawn and garbage. Right now, all my husband has to do is go to work, and fix things when they break. He in turn works 60+ hours a week and is free on the weekends to spend all his time with us. However, we both know when I go back to work, things will change. So if Cat isn’t employed (and not sure how serious she is taking the book) I have no sympathy for her complaining about Charles’s swanning. If she is working, I have a little sympathy. Even though they are hers, he knew she had kids before getting married. I don’t like when step parents feel they have no responsibility.

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     tvaholic
     Posted August 27, 2010 at 7:00 am

     OK, 2 questions-one, did we ever figure out what “swanning” means? And dos, do we really believe Cat is 39 like she claims to be?

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     katesmom
     Posted August 27, 2010 at 8:04 am

     Flipit – I know you read these comments, so this one is directed to you. Several long time reader/commenters have left the site, and I think more will follow. This will be the last time I am on it. For years this was a peaceful, fun place to visit, laugh and comment. Then in the past few months a very negative person started commenting. Her comments were negative and accusatory in nature, and offended a lot of people. She kept arguments going and caused people to constantly feel that they had to defend themselves. They would then be subjected to insanely long and derogatory commentaries. It has changed the entire feel and personality of this board and site. It’s no fun anymore. I know there’s not much you can do, but it’s important you take note. Thanks for listening. I am now permanently signing off. Defamer (Richard Lawson) has wonderful, hysterical recaps and all the commenters are nice to each other!

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     Alison Zimmerman
     Posted August 27, 2010 at 8:08 am

     @chemgal-That was my idea for Bravo to do a Real Housewives of Tvgasm!I was bored the other morning, and trying to figure out a new job oppertunity for myself and others…It sounded like a good idea in my head

     For the most part I am still a newbie to TvGasm. I have made a few comments on some of the different shows, and I am still learning to disagree gracefully. There are a few topics and posters that I don’t engage my opionion with becuase I feel that it could lead to some unneccessary(sp) things being said, and I don’t want to engage that way. But I will say, that those same posters, do feel some of the same hatered towards some of the people on the craptastick shows that we watch so I do engage them, if that makes any sence.

     I also try not to bring any personal feelings and information onto the boards, but we all know that was not the case this week…And I thank all of you for the wisdom and nice thoughts throught this last week!

     @pcheeze-please don’t go!

     @tvaholic-hells no I don’t believe that Cat is 39! She looks like she has had some work done to the face, but she has that smokers voice…

     Ohh I am so looking forward to BBtiz recap for lastnights show…I actually paid attention, and I have lots to say!! And I have a feeling that I may get my “ass kicked” for some of my observations! Just alittle warning now

     Oh yeah, I hate Theresa!!!

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     Baxter
     Posted August 27, 2010 at 8:15 am

     tvaholic- hell to the no…..she has to be in her 40′s. Still have no clue what swanning meant. I thought it meant “flittering about” but it doesn’t seem to make sense in the context.

     yeah yeah I said I wasn’t watching this but after the hub bub you biattches forced me to watch it. It seems like it is starting to get interesting.

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     Baxter
     Posted August 27, 2010 at 8:27 am

     Alison Zimmerman- haha I swear I wasn’t stealing your line. I wrote my comment and forgot to hit send. I didn’t see yours until after I posted.

     I hope your week has gotten better! I’m in the same boat of not being sure what I want to do after we leave our current duty station. I’m in corporate recruiting so if I stay in that field and we go out to Washington I will be sure to shoot you a line to see if I can help in your job search at all.

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     marijai
     Posted August 27, 2010 at 8:31 am

     Lauri is another one who had it all, got divorced and lost it all, and then remarried and now has no job, a husband, and lots of money.

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     tvaholic
     Posted August 27, 2010 at 8:31 am

     OK, I consulted my friend Google. Both Urban Dictionary & Merriam-Webster say it basically means to wander aimlessly. But UD also has a def. that is way more hilarious & relevant to the RH franchise, “The process of going up the skirt, down through the underwear and up into the nether regions of a whore on a dance floor in a swan like action.” Hmmm, wonder which one ol’ Charlie meant??

     @Alison@Baxter-I think it was in a People article where I saw she said she was 39, and right away I thought there is no way in hell she’s the same age as me! Either she used to smoke A LOT, or she forgot to add a decade onto that number.

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     Alison Zimmerman
     Posted August 27, 2010 at 9:14 am

     @baxter-no prob. I have had that happen to me a couple times. Writing down what I thought of the show, and then someone else posted almost the same thing. Monday I have a meeting with HR, LP, and my union rep to try and get my job back…Now I am struggeling with if I really want to go back and work there for 6 weeks, or if I should kindly say “no thank-you” and re-apply when I get back to Washington. I do know some people that will help me if needed, but I just want my job back! Yes, feel free to contact me when you get to Washington. I use my facebook login when I am on here…

     @tvholic-I would say that the UD def totally describes atleaste 1 person from each franchise, I just haven’t thought of who and from which one! I used to smoke, alot, for about 10 years, I quit 2 years ago finally. But the funny thing is, you wouldn’t think that I was a day over 20, and I am comming up on 31! It must have been the weightloss, or the fact that I have really good genes!!

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     kdognatl
     Posted August 27, 2010 at 9:28 am

     39!!! No way! Yah, can’t wait for last nights recap. Sarcas I was thinking I should have taken notes too, but like you said, it will be aired a bunch more times.

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     Y3KPhenom
     Posted August 27, 2010 at 9:42 am

     @sarcasatire – Love your breakdown of the Housewives. I never thought of it like that, but it is so true!

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     skatt
     Posted August 27, 2010 at 9:46 am

     Tvaholic: Thank you for your timely reminder about SYSTEMATIC BULLYING: SCOURGE OF A NATION. (You’ll always be my favorite for finding Petite Felons IMDB page, BTW) Hee-hee.

     If you don’t like some persons postings/opinions/attitude etc… just skip them. For crying out loud, my mortal enemy is that CAPTCHA CODE bitch, who erases my shit AND spelled out c-u-n-t-(not in that order, but still) once on me.

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     Sugarbearly There
     Posted August 27, 2010 at 10:15 am

     Hey, guys! I watched a DVR marathon of this show last night and couldn’t wait to get on here and read the recaps. BBitz, I lurve you!

     Regarding Cat, I agree with whoever said in the comments that they were a villain lover. I would hate to be around that whiny ass in real life. But on tv, where she belongs, I give a little clap of glee.

     I’m liking this season so far b/c it doesn’t have anyone that is obviously batshit crazy with issues. Watching Kelly Bensimon and Danielle Staub over the last couple Housewife installments just made me sad. My sister is bipolar and has had some real problems over the last year. It’s been hard and shows like this are NOT where I want to see obviously disturbed people.

     Anyhoo, the Salamis… That girl is much more my type of kooky! Loved the pic of unicorns and rainbow. You know that is LITERALLY a picture of what goes on in her mind at all times! Although she may also dream of solid foods at night. I don’t know if she’s too skinny but her husband saying she gained 20lbs after he met her was ridiculous.

     @Tvholic – I googled swanning and this is what it said –

     intr.v. Chiefly British, swanned, swan·ning, swans.
     To travel around from place to place: “Swanning around Europe nowadays, are we?” (Jeffrey Archer).

     I’ve read this site for years and just wanted to say how much I love TVgasm. There is not another site – that I know of – that is like this one. I love the recappers. I love reading all the comments. And for the freakin’ internet, there’s a real sense of family here. Ha, albeit a slightly dysfunctional one… Love and light, bitches!!! Ha, I’m probably overly gushy cuz it’s Friday and we’re going to the Outback tonight to get boozed up and eating something that’s about 2,000 calories. Woo!

     PS – I wrote this when comments were at 164. Fingers crossed they’re still somewhat relevant cuz I’m hitting submit! Also, I hate Theresa… With a little left over for Jill Zarin.

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     Coleen Schaefer
     Posted August 27, 2010 at 10:21 am

     There is no way Cat is 39! And after seeing Mic last night how she thinks no one can tell her age is preposterous. She looks like she used to smoke 3 packs a day based on the lines she has formed around her mouth! And can we all please discuss what drugs Mary is on? I know she drinks a lot but her eyes are never open. when they were sitting at the dinner table I just wanted to yell at her to wake up! Sorry for skipping to the new episode but I couldn’t wait for the new recap.

     Hopefully we can all get along on the new recap and take direction from some of our Housewives. Love and Light, Satchels of Gold, and Love, Love, Love you all! except Theresa…hate that bitch!

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     tvaholic
     Posted August 27, 2010 at 11:38 am

     @skatt-Petite Felon, hee hee! Forgot about that moniker!

     @Alsion-glad you quit smoking! I’m glad I haven’t for years too-not just cuz of health issues,but if 10 years ago I was out & all the bars were non-smoking like they are now, I’d be pissed!

     @Sugarbear-the English just always have to talk so flowerly, if that’s a word!

     @Coleen-I think Mary went to the Danielle school of talking…slowly…for …dramatic…effect. But the booze & who knows what else don’t help-her eyes did look a little glassy.

     See you all at the next recap!!

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     classy drunk
     Posted August 27, 2010 at 12:15 pm

     For P Cheez and others you have decided to leave the boards

     So please don’t go
     Don’t go
     Don’t go away
     Please don’t go
     Don’t go
     I’m begging you to stay
     If you leave
     At least in my lifetime
     I’ve had one dream come true
     I was blessed to be loved
     By someone as wonderful as you

     –KC and the Sunshine Band

     Please don’t go away from me
     ( I’ll be there for you)
     When you call my name (call my name)
     I’ll reach out my hand to you
     (And I Welcome you ) To my heart (my future my heart)
     Please don’t go away from me
     We can work it out
     Whatever it may be girl
     Please don’t go (no,no,no,no,no,please don’t go)

     –Boyz II Men

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     Lost Brooklyn Girl
     Posted August 27, 2010 at 12:23 pm

     First time poster, but longtime addict to these craptastic shows. I so look fwd to these brilliantly snarky recaps and posts, but have to admit I’ve also noticed the posts lately are turning a bit more aggressive. But, I’m glad to see as I work my way thru these today, (while ignoring my real job lol), its gaining back its lighter tone. While I may not agree with all opinions, I do look forward to reading them. No one leave please!! (Especially PCheez, you have an amazing writing style!) And thank u to @sarcasatire for the HW breakdown – truly awesome!

     I propose we adopt the new signoff – I hate Teresa – to keep our friendly bond lol

     xoxo… I hate Teresa ~always & forever~

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     tvaholic
     Posted August 27, 2010 at 1:10 pm

     @classy drunk-I’m jumping on this bandwagon!!

     Don’t wanna hear you say
     Ain’t nothing but a heartache
     Ain’t nothing but a mistake
     (Don’t wanna hear you say)
     I never wanna hear you say
     I want it that way

     -Backstreet Boys

     Please don’t go girl
     You would ruin my whole world
     Tell me you’ll stay
     Never ever go away

     -New Kids On the Block

     *All to be sung with the head bob, pointing out towards an audience. Or if you prefer, imagine Danielle atop the juicy, awkward back-up dancers trying to look sexy giving her best come hither looks.

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     sarcasatire
     Posted August 27, 2010 at 2:38 pm

     @tvaholic- I’m putting on my microphone headpiece as we speak. (Can I admit to being so tone deaf and lyrically ignorant that I had no idea what you were quoting until you got to the last line? Iiiii want it thaaaat way, tell me Whiee!)

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     chemgal
     Posted August 27, 2010 at 5:57 pm

     dreams of solid food!

     I hate Teresa.

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     sarcasatire
     Posted August 27, 2010 at 7:22 pm

     @Sugarbear: (I love ur screen name)
     Have fun at dinner tonight. But not too much fun. You know what they say…
     Too much Outback, too much out back. *snicker*

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     ohralphie
     Posted August 27, 2010 at 7:41 pm

     I hate to throw a little negativity into this recently calmed down thread *but* I hate Jill Z much, much more than I could ever hate Teresa. I know it’s a little like trying to choose between explosive diarhea and projectile vomiting, but there you have it…

     Besides, Teresa gave me the phrase I think when in traffic or listening to the boss.. “Prostitution Hoaaah”. That alone gets a tiny pass.

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     Lost Brooklyn Girl
     Posted August 27, 2010 at 9:32 pm

     @ohralphie, an excellent point as I also share a severe disgust of Ms Jill Z. May need a vote off, kind of like voting for the new color M&M

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     sarcasatire
     Posted August 27, 2010 at 9:43 pm

     My bile rises for Kelly..aka the Lilac M&M. There is no reason a woman who works out that much doesn’t have a waistline. Or a better boobjob. Or better skin. Or a better vocabulary. Or a better.. you get the point.

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     Lost Brooklyn Girl
     Posted August 27, 2010 at 10:24 pm

     OK, I’ll kick this off, here are my HW picks for the crown of vile, disgusting excuse of a human being. Let the finalists battle it out!

     OC: Duckface – if we poke pins in her like a voodoo, will she deflate? Let’s try!
     ATL: Kim Z – She irks me so bad I want to rip off her wig and beat her with it….
     NY: Jill Z, aka the green with jealousy M&M
     NJ: Teresa – which I would love to set up a group GASM outing to her auction – road trip anyone??!!
     DC – need to wait & see, I can’t get thru an episode of this boring shit, thank god for the talented bBitz!
     Voting polls are now open! Hope to hear from the veterans and fresh meat >>(which I’m proud to be)

     And once we have swallowed our satchels of gold fairydust pills (YUM), we can vote for our cool faves.

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     sarcasatire
     Posted August 27, 2010 at 11:12 pm

     Great list, Brooklyn Girl! (Oh btw, I’m also from BK…eating some Wise Salt & Vinegar chips as we speak..before I put a hurtin’ on these here sunflower seeds)

     Great list. I hate to be contrary, (you know where that gets me, lol), but I have to add Tamra to the OC bitch list. Homegirl is more bitter than two pickles dipped in Jaeger. She came on as the self-proclaimed ‘hottest Housewife’, only to be upstaged each subsequent season by someone younger and much hotter. At the same time her arms got doughy, she lost her bread. A wayward son, a disinterested hubsand, mounting bills, and she can only focus on Gretchen’s lovelife..going so far as to slip Wretchen a roofie and let her son Ryan try his daterape tactics on for size. A great big FAIL. At life.

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     Matt Lam
     Posted August 28, 2010 at 12:55 am

     Don’t be too hard on Michaele. I really think she has a good heart. How can you hate someone who always smiles?

     Tareq is an idiot. He’s another example of what happens when trailer trash comes across money. Seriously, that’s what I think about, whenever I see him. It’s like the Rolls-Royce I saw the other day, with a license plate that said “NuMoney”. So Nouveau Riche AKA Teresa.

     Anyway, Michaele is cute and adorable. I wanna hug her.

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     Matt Lam
     Posted August 28, 2010 at 12:58 am

     I’m a Kim Z lover only because we have the same black Chanel watch.

     Jill Z is hot, but she needs to change her attitude.

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     sarcasatire
     Posted August 28, 2010 at 1:07 am

     Matt..please don’t hug Michaele. You may crush her ribs and puncture a lung. You don’t want that on your conscience, now do you? Once upon a time, I always smiled, too. Then the exctasy wore off.

     Oh, and your black Chanel watch. Something tells me you paid for it with hard earned cash. You worked for it. But Kim Z..she had to work a married member till it exploded all over her plastic wig. Sure, it’s still work..but for women like Kim, decidedly easy.

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     sarcasatire
     Posted August 28, 2010 at 1:09 am

     Okay, I really need to go to sleep. The only thing on TV is an infomercial about a product called called NoNo. As in, my no-no is hairy..clean it up!

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     Matt Lam
     Posted August 28, 2010 at 1:49 am

     Lol, so if me hugging her can break her ribs, does it means that when Tareq is on top of her, the cracking sound we hear is her bones and not bed?

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     2muchbravo
     Posted August 28, 2010 at 2:01 pm

     I’m in for the Hatin’ on Teresa Roadtrip ’10. We can all go have blueberry smoothies at the diner afterwards.

     Tareq probably likes Mic on top anyway, “Ride me like Sparkles, Baby!”

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     sarcasatire
     Posted August 28, 2010 at 2:48 pm

     haha -@2muchbravo. Yes, @Matt. The only time Tareq is ever on top is when he is iding a Clydesdale philly. At that’s because the horse is doing all the work.

     I’m down with the Auction Roadtrip ’10..just waiting for Brooklyn Girl to pass out permission slips for our parents to sign. I’m saving up my allowance to buy Gia’s ATV!

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     Bionic Television
     Posted August 28, 2010 at 3:19 pm

     Hey guys,

     Apparently the few sentences I posted previously indicated a pronounced lack of intelligence (I should ask my alma mater for a refund). However, I hope you allow me poke my head out again and share this:

     http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/29/fashion/29housewives.html?src=twt&twt=nytimes

     Enjoy!

     xo BT

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     sarcasatire
     Posted August 28, 2010 at 3:22 pm

     BT..the coast is clear. The storm has passed. Please….join us.

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     sarcasatire
     Posted August 28, 2010 at 3:34 pm

     What a great article, BT. A little melacholy because it seems Charles is saying he only signed on to support his wife and now his marriage has fallen apart and it seems his career has, as well. All for a show he’s too uncomfortable to even watch.

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     sarcasatire
     Posted August 29, 2010 at 3:22 am

     I read on another site that Charles is not a White House photographer like Cat says. He, in fact, works for Newsweek and has had assingments in the White House but he doesn’t/didn’t work for any president. So, now…I’m giving Cat the side-eye.

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     chemgal
     Posted August 29, 2010 at 5:43 am

     Comment 200 – I hate Teresa!!!

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     Prodigal Cheez
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 8:04 am

     A Bronx Troll

     I recently experienced a phenomena I’ve heard about, mostly in passing, and never thought much about one way or the other – something in all honesty that I thought sounded largely innocuous and a little overwrought as a part of the overall landscape of the Internet.

     I’ve met my first Troll. Well, possibly a group actually, but as I’ve come to understand that’s one of those many unquantifiable and un-provable elements of Trolldom. It surprised me frankly to come away from an online experience that didn’t involve anything but dialogue, and feel victimized and harassed. I know, I know… Most reasonable people would say, “Oh c’mon it’s online, it isn’t even real. Do you really know these people?” The answer to that is actually much more complicated and complex than one might imagine, but in short; yes, I do feel I really do know some of my fellow forum members, and in some cases developed relationships that are much more personal and exist outside of the online community altogether.

     I’ve found that there are different types of Trolls, and they function on a broad spectrum of articulation and intelligence. Some like to jump on a board and throw out insults or oppositional bombs, while they may be the most irritating and shocking, they are also the most harmless. They’re there for a quick thrill for the most part, and most Message Board participants are savvy enough to know what they are and ignore them, others will point them out and eventually they get banned or go away. That being said, like anyone who delights in harassing others, it’s important to never engage these posters personally. People who act out Passively-Aggressively are still acting out on an aggressive impulse.

     The Troll I’ve been dealing with is what I’ve decided to call an “Issues Troll”. She showed up a few weeks ago, and began to attack a much admired and respected site writer with tortured and illogical claims of racism. It’s the perfect thing really, racism and the ongoing national conversation that exists around that topic is fraught with anger, guilt, discomfort, and shifting sands for people on either side of the issue, both Black and White. She actually posted a few weeks before that, under a different name, and made a very direct attack, which was shut down almost immediately. I was one of the strongest responders, so I pretty much placed a bulls-eye on my back, and she bided her time and planned her next onslaught.

     The next attack was under a different name, but the strategy was two-pronged. The very first comment was the first and last from a new poster, and was essentially a direct hit. The board answered with some hurt and anger, and then the Troll showed up and gave us all a lecture about racism. She’s very articulate, and appears to be well reasoned on the surface – some of us stuck to our guns because we felt that not only was the accusation groundless and unfair, we also felt it was completely inappropriate to take the forum off-topic. But some became very intimidated by the subject, especially because she claimed to be Black herself, and they equivocated. And so the division and chaos began…

     This particular site is remarkably free from real discord, and very diverse in cultural make-up. The one characteristic that seems to be built into the DNA of the site is the level of intelligent commentary and response. Most of the writers are brilliant, and enjoy different levels of professional success both related and unrelated to the content of the site. The posters in general are unusually articulate and linear in their logic, and although there might be a few minor personality conflicts, flamewars are virtually unheard of. The main forum is un-moderated for the most part, and that’s been a good thing – as evidenced by new growth and visibility.

     What muddies the issue when dealing with a Troll like this is the initial jump in numbers of comments and responses, a board that might normally get 50 or 60 comments jumps to 100, 150, 200. People who normally lurk on the site get pulled into the emotional and incendiary nature of the comments, and begin to post under circumstances that are actually out of control. They jump in and pick a side driven by the need for their voices to be heard; things take on a very biased point of view and in some cases one that might not be quite accurate. While their frustrations or personal feelings of intimidation regarding opinionated posters might be very genuine, the reality of the situation is that whatever they were gaining from the interaction as passive observers is no longer being reflected in the forum. They are experiencing the same anxiety, anger, and confusion as the regular posting members who are engaging in the verbal battle.

     In our case, the Troll brought friends. Some are new, some have probably been on the site for quite a while – looking back I can see a definite pattern and I think my zealousness in wanting to protect the writers on the site, and in a sense the site itself, provided the perfect climate for an organized Troll takeover. The Message Board is breaking down, and in private communications many of us have agreed that the takeover is nearly complete. The Troll is everywhere, and her name is on the rolling boards 24 hours a day. No one knows for sure who the Troll’s friends are, who is or isn’t a legitimate new member; and how the legitimate members who jumped on the bandwagon will react to the fact that they were used to help harm a site that they love as much as any of their community counterparts, differences of opinion notwithstanding.

     I made the decision to leave, although admittedly I did so in a state of rage over a particularly vicious verbal exchange, that was the virtual equivalent of being jumped by a gang. The incredible irony of that incident was that I was being accused of being a bully, while I and another member were being mercilessly bullied right off of the entire site. I’m not a shrinking violet, and I can handle being ignored, disliked or disagreed with – it goes with the territory when you’re opinionated. This was different, it was savage and gleeful, and it left a bad taste in my mouth.

     It’s painful to walk away from an online social environment that I’ve grown to value and love. To date the only truly effective way to handle the onslaught of a Troll is to abide by the laws of nature and starve them out through lack of response. There’s a psychological component driving the behavior of these scourges of the Internet – in real life these people are almost always completely lacking in self-esteem, in having a sense of power, or are living in a situation in which their self-sufficiency is limited. Their only true connection to success, despite their claims, is in experiencing it vicariously through other people. People whom they resent, but whom they also envy.

     I’ll end this where I began when starting out on my quest to understand what happened:

     Please Don’t Feed The Trolls.

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     Bionic Television
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 12:41 pm

     Hi gang,

     I checked back in to talk more about the NYT article, but now I feel compelled to say something else.

     I think “new” people are posting not because they are some organized cabal of “Trolls,” but because of recent conversations re: how a diversity of opinion should be encouraged on these boards, and the recent acknowledgement that, sadly, this diversity has been discouraged on some of the boards in the past. Regardless of whether any exclusion was done deliberately or not, this was how some people felt. When people feel something (whether it’s offended, etc.), it’s hard to change their minds via writing, no matter how logical you think your breakdown of their argument is.

     I’ve been reading TVGasm since B-Side was at the helm (ca. 2005?). I used to comment quite a bit. I’ve missed participating but, honestly, a few of the recap boards did turn into somewhat of a sorority, and the dynamic became a bit off-putting.

     Since I work in TV development now (in Reality, actually) and watch even more shows (and am even more interested in how viewers react to the shows/characters), lately I’ve felt the impetus to start commenting again. I felt that Camille’s post (which was not an attack, at least I didn’t think so, it seemed honest and good-natured) addressed the proverbial elephant in the room, and that made me feel comfortable chiming in.

     That’s really, and truly, all there is to it.

     Prodigal Cheez – the funny thing is that, when you came at me (about how I should have felt intimidated on the RHONY boards, etc.) I wasn’t even thinking about you when I posted “Yep. Camille’s right.” I had simply opined that I thought what she was saying was true. The fact that you assumed Camille’s remark was a veiled attack on you, took a swipe at me, and just wrote a long conspiratorial post about a Troll “army,” displays something akin to a persecution complex that you should try to let go of, if only so that you can continue having fun & analyzing the shows. People seem to enjoy your input!

     I mean all of this kindly. I quote Lloyd Dobbler: “You MUST chill!”

     And by “You,” I mean all of us…let’s talk about some TV!

     xo BT

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     Prodigal Cheez
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 1:05 pm

     @BT

     We definitely have a Troll.

     I’m not the only one that feels this way, not by a long shot. If I’m a conspiracy theorist then so are many of the longtime posters to these boards. While I’m wiling to concede I may have responded overly harshly to some legitimate posters the fact remains the boards are under attack. There are some posters here who are not what they appear. I’m glad I didn’t come to mind when you responded to @Camille, but what she said was definitely aimed at me and I was at the tail end of my patience. I’m sorry I said what I said to you, it was not only untrue it was mean. I was frustrated.

     People who are afraid to comment due to my opinions, or how I state them shouldn’t be. Overall I’m fair and evenhanded, but I will defend my point of view – whether I continue to comment or not, there will always be another commenter just like me who will have strong opinions.

     I am chilled @BT, but that doesn’t mean I won’t call it the way I see it; and the way I see it is we have a Troll.

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     sarcasatire
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 1:34 pm

     Why, God, can’t she just leave me alone? (This was obviously directed at me, as I do reside in the Bronx.)

     The Godmother Gets Called on her Shit, Leaves, and is Back to Start More Shit..by sarcasatire (A Novel)

     Robin and I had a brief disagreement about how events played out in a DC scene, which we settled on our own. The next day..

     “The GodMother” takes it upon herself to insert herself into the conversation (the next day, mind) by writing an 8 page thesis about everything that is wrong with me. Why you, ask? Because she thrives on drama. This site has been calm since she left, and now she is back to stir shit up once again.

     Several new posters came out to speak about a discussion of veterans and fresh meat, and she knocks a few right back into oblivion. When called on it, she says she’s feels vicitimized and harassed but lacks the self-awareness to know that has been doing the same thing to me (and others) from the start.

     @Bionic TV says: “The fact that you assumed Camille’s remark was a veiled attack on you, took a swipe at me, and just wrote a long conspiratorial post about a Troll “army,” displays something akin to a persecution complex that you should try to let go of”

     On any thread that I comment on, there is/was never a conflict until The Godmother (caroline?) chooses to ‘take me to task’ on an issue and toss wild accustations my way. Of course, I am going to defend myself. (Who wouldn’t?) Then all of a sudden a flame war begins. Her cohorts jump on the bandwagon (many of whom only post to agree with her, never to discuss the shows..so a troll expert, I see) and it goes on and on until I am waving a white flag. Well, I’m glad you got a taste of your own medicine. Sadly, there was no lesson learned because here you are, back up to your old tricks. This time, however, I think you have revealed the chink in your armor; hypocrisy.

     Please, from this moment forward, do not address me PCheez. Do not address my comments, ..just ignore me. On all threads. I asked you, kindly, to let the matter go but you refuse to. However, I will no longer engage in a conflict with you.

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     chemgal
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 1:38 pm

     @BT – I’m with PCheez on this one. I myself am sure of 1 person, and suspect of at least a few others (who may actually all be one in the same). I also by following some links, since I have a lot of time on my hands now that the kiddies are in school, and I am quite sure at least one person is on a few other boards and is even taking things word for word from people here and posting it as their own elsewhere. I think PCheez in particular was targeting because she is clearly the alpha and a divide and conquer plan was put in action. It is either due to even more free time than even I have, or an attempt to ruin the gasm or even drive commenters to other sites.

     Once PCheez announced she wasn’t going to be on, I picked up a change in tone directed at me by the same poster. It is so far, very mild, as I think my reaction is being gauged. I however, am not going anywhere, but like PCheez, I am going to chose carefully who I respond to. While we will always have varying opinions, in the past, we have all responded well – except when it was clearly a forum bomb. Then we did do what people have said – we circled the wagons, and we probably will do so in the future.

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     classy drunk
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 1:48 pm

     Awww dayum SPARKLES!!! They just won’t let you rest in peace.

     I do not have a problem with what anyone addresses or how they do it. I just hate harping on the same subject. I mean outside of hating Teresa.

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     Bionic Television
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 1:53 pm

     Oh well, I guess I just want everyone to get along. I didn’t recognize any poster as a “Troll” but maybe the Trolls I’m used to are less subtle (like on my college forum boards where Trolls would interrupt a thread about cafeteria pizza to be all like “WHY DO JEWS LIKE MONEY SO MUCH?” or something like that). What I kinda don’t get is that sarcasatire DID apologize and try to diffuse the tension, so is she the one you are really talking about?

     All I know is that, in the past (e.g., on the RHONY boards) people who didn’t agree with the majority opinion on even the most innocuous subjects got shot down in such a fashion that made them not want to post anymore. I don’t know what went on in the RHONJ discussions (where I think most of this race-related ire started?) because I don’t read ‘em. So maybe I am missing something here. It seems like it, anyway.

     PCheez, thank you for your apology about what you said to me before, I appreciate that.

     Chemgal, always been a fan of your posts.

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     Bionic Television
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 1:57 pm

     P.S. I can’t WAIT for this week’s RHODC recap. BBitz’s comic talent let loose on a CRAPLOAD of Cat & Salami material? Amazing.

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     sarcasatire
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 1:58 pm

     Wow..chemgal, you believe that I am a troll, too? I can gather from your post that you are not referring just to me because, “I am quite sure at least one person is on a few other boards and is even taking things word for word from people here and posting it as their own elsewhere.” – is not referring to me because it isn’t something i do. plus, i keep the same name – sarcasatire on other boards, so it would be quite easy to verify.

     But, are saying that my tone changed towards you…if so, when? I so don’t believe this. It’s like I keep getting drug into a conflict full of speculation and ire. I am friends with quite a few recappers on facebook where my photos, personal info is avaialble to them, and I have divulged personal info about myself on several boards, with @chemgal, as well, something a troll just wouldn’t do. I mean, you are suggesting I am here to ‘divide and conquer’ yet you @chemgal and I were on Bethanny Getting Married discussing breastfeeding and other aspects of motherhood. Or was this…(wait for it)…a tactic?

     But, i’m not going to defend myself against accusations just because someone decides to make a ludicrous one against me. PCheez knows how to engage me by accusing me of something, knowing I will defend myself. But I am so done..this makes me very uncomfortable, hurts my feelings, gives me anxiety even because i don’t get why she has it out for me, (maybe because I never back down like the other people do when she comes at them?), but I am going let her comments roll off of my back like water to a duck. (I am disappointed @chemgal that you agree with this, but hey, we are all independent thinkers and if you feel her comment has merit, then so be it.)

     Believe what you will. *shrugs*

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     Prodigal Cheez
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 2:02 pm

     “P.S. I can’t WAIT for this week’s RHODC recap. BBitz’s comic talent let loose on a CRAPLOAD of Cat & Salami material? Amazing.”

     @BT – I’m salivating! Cat is growing on me, and weirdly in some shots she kind of reminds me of Uma Thurman, but in others not…

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     Bionic Television
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 2:08 pm

     Sarcastire – you seem pretty awesome in my book. Maybe they aren’t talking about you after all? It’s hard to tell who is being implicated without explicit names, etc. At least it is for me. Color me confused about this whole thing.

     As classy drunk said, let’s let Sparkles rest in peace. She’s had enough pain being impaled by Michaele’s bony little bottom.

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     sarcasatire
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 2:13 pm

     @Bionic TV: Thanks, I appreciate that. (But not too many compliments before people start thinking we’re the same person! lol)

     I only thought i was being implicated because I live in the Bronx. But, trust me..I am just as confused as you are. But i won’t fret about it anymore. I’m gonna finish watching Yo Gabba Gabba with my girlie.

     “Bacon.. in my tummy! (so yummy! so yummy!)”

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     Bionic Television
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 2:20 pm

     Sarcastire – even if people had been angry at you, the swords gotta come down after your brilliant Housewives breakdown a few posts back (is Stacie’s lifestyle really middle-class though? I think her Real Estate brings in like $30 million a year – but you’re right, her lifestyle is definitely not nouveau-riche/flashy and I like that about her.)

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     sarcasatire
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 2:29 pm

     Thanks, Bionic!! I thought there would be peace, as well. A truce, atleast. I am only hear to laugh and write witty commentary. I blog (fashion and beauty), and write for magazines occasionally, but would like to one day write for the gasm. (Has been a goal for over a year) I had a recapper recently write me on FB and say that they think I should be writing for them, which is the best compliment I could ever receive! But, I’m not ready..mommy duties would make me a bit tardy with my ‘caps. So, I’m gonna wait until life settles a bit.. of course, I will probably have to change my name. I’m damaged goods! haha!

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     sarcasatire
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 2:31 pm

     hear = here.. some writer I claim to be. :p

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     tvaholic
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 2:34 pm

     Holy shitballs, go offline for a couple of days & I miss all the drama! Who says we need a RH of Tvgasm? We’ve got it already folks!! I get to be the Sonja!

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     Bionic Television
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 2:42 pm

     Oh man I wanna be Sonja.

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     sarcasatire
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 2:46 pm

     I wanna be Bethenny! lol

     Oh, and I was on all weekend, it was calm and congenial. The dust has been kicked up in the last few hours only, with the return of She Who Shall Not Be Named.

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     classy drunk
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 2:55 pm

     I’ll be Ramona but only because I am similar to her in “real life” other than the sexy talk. I have had to work on learning the difference between “telling it like it is” and “being mean”. There is a fine line and it’s taking me years to figure it out. I am quite a bit better at it than Ramona but when I get frustrated or drunk (hiccup) it’s much harder to control what I will say. Then I have to go back and apologize, but not because of what I said but the way I said it.

     I also love to dance…TURTLE TIME!!!

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     ohralphie
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 3:18 pm

     I’d have to be Alex. I too get that Mary Tyler Moore quiver in my voice when I confront someone.

     There is not a soul I’d want to be on NJ, though. Except maybe Sarai and/or Dinas ‘energist’ who get to watch tv and occasionally spout feel good bullshit about auras and personal strength for money.

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     Coleen Schaefer
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 4:15 pm

     I could be Jo…I’m around the right age, have horrible taste in men, and can only kinda sing. No children and no husband either.

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     Trister
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 4:56 pm

     Sarcas: I too thought this all had been diffused. The boards calmed down and people were back to commenting on the shows. But I stopped by the Gasm this afternoon and I see these new posts…I had to double check the date stamp to make sure it wasn’t an old post. It’s a shame we’re back here, AGAIN.

     But I just want to say again how great I think you are. You have a point of view, you’re intelligent and articulate, and you’re funny. I too get the sense you are being targeted (though, like Bionic TV said, it’s hard to be definite-hell it could be me!! haha). I know it must be deflating, but you have to know that those accusations are completely unfounded. A troll is someone who goes to stir up troubles on the board-that is certainly not you. Yes you defend yourself (who wouldn’t?), and just as often, you apologize for misunderstandings. I’m glad to see you aren’t letting a long-winded, unfounded, and overly worded post evict you from the boards. I enjoy reading your insights, just as I enjoy reading the other kind- and fun- spirited insights on this site.
     Just wanted to let you know how much I dig ya!!

     Matt Lam: “Don’t be too hard on Michaele. I really think she has a good heart. How can you hate someone who always smiles?” I feel the same way about her!! Her positivity makes me want to give her the benefit of the doubt. But I will say last week’s episode left me a little uncertain. For right now, I’ll say too soon to tell!

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     Trister
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 5:02 pm

     Since Sonja and Bethenny have been taken (dammit!), I’ll be Mary…she seems devoted and loyal to her family and friends, she tries her best not to talk about people behind their back, she’s got a dash of bitchiness, and we don’t know all that much about her at this point…sounds a little like me!! lol

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     sarcasatire
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 5:13 pm

     @Trister: You words mean alot to me. I don’t want to sound melodramatic here but this has all been disconcerting for me. I am really glad that you and others see where the conflict is coming from.(I am looking at you, Bionic Tv, Camille, Y3kphenom, and Tiredofthebandwagon )

     I also post on Work of Art, Project Runway, Top Chef, Newsgasm, Dvdgasm, Bad Girls Club, Teen Mom and I am NEVER in a conflict. I have seen She Who Shall Not Be Named get into conflicts on other boards, calling people assholes, and only apologizing when the recapper offered up a nice, “calm down..haters can post here, too.”

     But, like I said..I will not reply to anything else that is directed or indirected towards me. (I do not know anybody else that lives in the Bx on this board so we knew who she meant. But if there are others..then, ooooooh snap! Someone’s talking shit about yoooooou! haha)

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     sarcasatire
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 5:15 pm

     Well, Trister, If you wanna be mary..then you’re dead. Just kidding! But was that her being carted off in an ambulance in previews for this upcoming episode?

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     sarcasatire
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 5:31 pm

     I am really glad that you and others see where the conflict is coming from.(I am looking at you, Bionic Tv, Camille, Y3kphenom, and Tiredofthebandwagon )

     I hope it was clear that i meant you guys all recongize the true source of this conflict, and i wasn’t implying you were the source! Haha..sometimes my fingers move faster than my brain.. (even tho I only type with 4 of them.)

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     Trister
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 5:31 pm

     Ohhh snap, I hope not!!! Did I just dig my own grave?? hehe

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     sarcasatire
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 5:36 pm

     Oh, no. You did that long ago when you sided with me.

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     Trister
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 5:38 pm

     Sarcas: I got you, girl! xoxo

     And I knew what you meant…just consider yourself lucky your brain works that fast!! I’ve been needing to upgrade to a faster hard drive…well, either that or lay off the good stuff!! I kid…or do I????

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     Robinez
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 6:33 pm

     “Oh, and I was on all weekend, it was calm and congenial. The dust has been kicked up in the last few hours only, with the return of She Who Shall Not Be Named.”

     It’s THAT kind of passive agressive bullshit that makes one wonder if you are indeed a troll.

     “I also post on Work of Art, Project Runway, Top Chef, Newsgasm, Dvdgasm, Bad Girls Club, Teen Mom and I am NEVER in a conflict. I have seen She Who Shall Not Be Named get into conflicts on other boards, calling people assholes, and only apologizing when the recapper offered up a nice, “calm down..haters can post here, too.”

     “But, like I said..I will not reply to anything else that is directed or indirected towards me. (I do not know anybody else that lives inthe Bx on this board so we knew who she meant. But if there are others..then, ooooooh snap! Someone’s talking shit about yoooooou! haha)”

     THERE YOU GO AGAIN! Your words don’t ring true when you say that you want peace,then continue to talk about it in a self absorbed way.

     You want exactly what you have been getting.Attention.Simple as that.And the only reason that you were so satisfied with the postings the last few days was because you were doing most of them and nobody disagreed with you.In my opinion it is because nobody cared enough about what you had to say.But that’s just me.

     The next time you ask for a truce you may want to remember that it works both ways.From your actions today it is apparent that your words ring hollow and what some of us have thought about you may indeed be correct.You are proving a point that’s for sure,but it isn’t your point.

     Robin

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     tvaholic
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 6:36 pm

     @classy drunk-fess up, you’re Ramona cuz you have crazy eyes & a serial killer husband, right??

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     sarcasatire
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 6:44 pm

     Hi Robin. You came back on a high note. Classy and articulate, as always. Of course, you WOULD recognize my post as the one that rekindled the bitchfest long after things had calmed down.. Typical, amusing…but most of all transparent.

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     Robinez
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 6:54 pm

     @Sarcasatire,

     I called you on your bullshit.The only thing transparent was your need to keep looking like some kind of victim.You are not a victim.You are an attention whore and you will take it any way you can get it.

     Robin

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     sarcasatire
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 7:30 pm

     @Robin: You are very welcome to ignore my posts. In fact, encouraged to do so. If I’m such an attention whore…stop giving it to me! Wouldn’t that be the logical tactic? Instead of making a ‘comeback’; a full-on verbal onslaught loaded with expletives.
     Upthread, there were many commenters who said Robin attacked them, who called you a bully..yet here you are, taking it up with me. again..typical, amusing, and transparent.

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     notwithoutmytv
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 8:11 pm

     Here are some observations I’ve made about arguments on discussion boards. You may see yourself in any of these observations, or not, as you choose:

     Whenever someone says “This will be my last post on this subject,” it won’t be. In fact, the next sentence almost always begins with “But first, I just want to say…”

     If someone posts “That’s it. I’m done with these boards”, don’t freak out and start begging them to stay. They aren’t going anywhere, and we all know it. No one has EVER voluntarily stopped posting to a discussion board. Ever.

     The first sign that a debate has degenerated into two people blindly hurling posts at each other is the gratuitous use of cut-and-paste. Cutting and pasting another’s words is not an attempt at clarity, it’s a passive-aggressive way to imply that the other poster is too stupid to remember what they wrote, or is too stupid to comprehend the marvelous treatsie you just penned on whether or not that Kat woman is a racist.

     We are all attention whores. The Internet’s greatest gift is not porn, but to give every mob a microphone. The minute you think you’re NOT an attention whore, you’ve become too twisted for color TV. And possibly dangerous.

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     hollagirl2
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 8:27 pm

     Can EVERYONE stop playing the fucking victim card in these posts? Good grief. This is for snark, not crying every time someone calls you out on an opinion you posted. Sarcas clarified her comments and that should have been the end of it. Thanks Camille for calling it how it is… and for the bullies on the board, shut up already. Let’s get back to talking about the show.

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     Prodigal Cheez
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 8:40 pm

     @Robin, glad you’re back too! Frustrating as it is, just remember you’re well-liked and respected by most of us here, and your input is much missed and needed. Please stay, I miss your posts!

     @notwithoutmytv, you make some salient points. For me, it’s true I do like the positive attention I get here, if I didn’t I wouldn’t have come back. I’m like anyone else, I like having fun and feeling valued and well-liked. Although, I have voluntarily left boards before, mostly due to boredom.

     I came back to TVgasm, because I decided that even with Trolls, I get more out of having it than I do not having it. I left because I was angry and I meant what I said at the time, not to garner attention. When I cooled off, I decided to swallow my pride and come back even if people gave me shit about it.

     I can live with it, and I’ll probably still like you anyway. Trolls excepted.

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     Prodigal Cheez
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 8:48 pm

     Feed Michaele, Starve the Trolls.

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     Robinez
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 9:07 pm

     Not going to c&p ( lol) so here goes..

     Can you explain to me how,after 5 yrs on this site I have yet to be called a bully, managed to make friends and get along in this community.And in one month I have been downgraded to a bully in the eyes of a few suspect “members”? Member’s that I find suspect for many reasons,one being that they are new.Another,and most suspect of all,is the flowery messeges from them to you.They always agree with you for example.

     As I said,I have been here for many yrs and getting all of us to agree at the same time is an anomaly.To have folks say things like “aww you are the best..so love you..is truly wiered unless it is someone’s birthday…

     So,if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck…

     Robin

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     sarcasatire
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 9:20 pm

     Hear that, @herewegoagain, @Trister, @Pixelated, @Hollagirl, @BionicTV, @Camille, @Yk3phenom, @TiredoftheBandwagon..you all agree with me on what is going on here re: bullying and personally attacking, so we have all been deemed ‘suspect.’ Robin is implying that we are either trolls..or the same person.

     Because I obviously feel too intimidated to stick up for myself as Sarcasatire. *rolls eyes*

     Keep throwing shit at the wall, Robin, hoping it will stick. Your posts are basking you in a positive light of rationality and intellect. If you need more rope, just let me know…

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     Prodigal Cheez
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 9:30 pm

     You’re not a bully, and we’re not hostile to new posters unless as @chem says they come in throwing a bomb. This is the same basic principle being regurgitated over and over to try and keep us quiet, drive us off, or engage us in arguments as a means to splitting the board.

     She’s decompensating, and any small doubt I might have had has been put to rest. I’ve been reading extensively on this in the last few days, it’s fascinating, especially since what we’re watching is almost textbook in it’s execution. I may expand on my above post and submit it for publication.

     Poor thing, she’s probably just clinically depressed. Too bad really, lots of potential there…

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     Robinez
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 9:42 pm

     @PCheeze Sending you warm hugs and Love because I think that you are just the best there is ))

     Instead of saying that I suspected newbies,I should have said that I was wary of the newbies that swarmed to her like flies on shit.

     TC,Robin

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     sarcasatire
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 9:44 pm

     Poor 44 year old woman bullying people on a message board. Talking about me to others posters in an obvious “US vs You” stance. Maybe she’s just depressed her business is about to go belly-up because she spends so much time on here pontificating. Atleast she is in control somewhere, right? Who cares if it’s a free message board full of virtual strangers..Here she matters! She really, really matters!

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     Prodigal Cheez
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 9:50 pm

     Right back at’cha @Robin! ((( ))) Lots of great people here, we just have to remember that hasn’t changed. I know what you meant about newbies, it’s a little bit of a crapshoot right now, but it will all shake out. It’s okay to be cautious, we all got taken for a bit of a funhouse ride. XO

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     Robinez
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 10:24 pm

     @PCheeze,

     Have you seen Pink perform her Funhouse song? Fantastic! Of course I didn’t see her in person because I have too much fun here,but if you get LOGO on your tv check it out.Great concert.

     Back to DC.If Cat’s family is from England,why can’t I understand them? English is my primary language and I am assuming the language I speak came from there.Correct me if I am wrong.

     I have a hard time understanding her children but her husband is even harder to understand.Maybe it is the slang that I can’t grasp.But I tell ya,they need to put subtitles in the show every once in awhile or I will not know the difference between hags and swanning etc.Yes,I heard hags and swanning..I told you I can’t understand them! lol

     TC,Robin

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     Prodigal Cheez
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 10:52 pm

     Hey Robin I haven’t seen it, but I love Pink – now that’s a girl after my own heart, LOL. Plus I would seriously kill for those abs, I should give up swimming and do crunches instead.

     I think Cat and Charles are kind of, slurry, sounding? I always end up rewinding and trying to catch what they’re saying. I think they’re drunk, LOL.

     Charles DID say swanning though, I think it means the same thing as gallivanting, haha. That totally cracks me up for some reason. Probably because when I was younger my mother would accuse me of “gallivanting around” with my friends at all hours of the night, LOL.

     I can’t wait for the next recap – even my jaded DC friends are coming around on this train-wreck. And unlike the NJ asshats, these people are professional social drinkers like James Carville and Mary Matalin are rumored to be. Damn, I wish she was on this show – those two are a riot.

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     Robinez
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 11:07 pm

     @PCheez,

     Oh,OK drunk Englishmen.I understand now.

     LOL@galavanting! I also apparently galavanted too according to my parent’s! Who’d a thunk? We were both galavanters!

     I think I liked galavanting…as it were..

     TC,Robin

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     Prodigal Cheez
     Posted August 30, 2010 at 11:35 pm

     I know I did, LOL. Hell, I still do – who am I kidding?

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     messystation
     Posted August 31, 2010 at 5:29 am

     The damn captcha thing got me, and my computer wouldn’t save so I am just gonna keep it brief. Also, if it looks weird, I don’t think my computer will format paragraphs here, so sorry for that.
     Thank you to sarcastire, trister, btv, and anyone else that opened this dialogue that there has been a pack mentality on this board, and differing opinions have not been welcome.
     If you would like to prove I am not any of these people, I am also messystation on food.com, experience project, grubgrade, and crazydaysand nights. Yes, more than one person can disagree with the pack opinion.
     I always felt differently from seemingly everyone on the RHONY boards. I did not find the recapper entertaining, so I just read the borads. However, I never bought into the manipulative editing of the Bethenny/Jill dichotomy. Sorry, but I just don’t believe the real story was all black and white, and the producers were probably stirring up the pot and using creative editing to create drama and characters. If you don’t believe bravo does this, please watch this season of Top Chef. As someone who has a Master’s Degree in psychology, and was a practicing therapist until I became disabled (I am fighting Chronic Lyme and Crohn’s in case anyone wants to accuse me of having a mental breakdown or drug addiction), I was so offended by all the “armchair analysts” with their diagnoses of Kelly and Jill because they “knew someone like that” or looked it up on google. But, I left the boards entirely after that one poster was attacked by many, including the recapper. Why would anyone try to have a dissenting opinion after that? So, good for you, sarcastire for being the one to “go there”. I came back when the different recappers came on.
     If you feel like making a comment out of rage or frustration, turn off the computer and do something else for a while. That is why I waited so long to enter this fray. I did not want to make veiled comments or insult anyone, and I wanted to see if this might resolve itself. But, I would be upset if someone were accused of posting under different names when all they wanted to do was to state an opinion. Also, if you need some stroking, please, instead of posting, you are leaving, look back at other posts where people have begged you to stay and get your validation that way.
     I just want to close with this: I once posted that I hated Cat Deeley on the SYTYCD board, and 100% of the board disagreed, including the recapper. Instead of attacking me or accusing me of being her ex-boyfriend or something, they posted “I love Cat! Here’s why…” Can we get some of that here? Also, this MAY be my one and only comment. Do not take it to mean I am not real. I just don’t feel like engaging in endless dialogue with people who will believe they are in the right regardless.

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     Alison Zimmerman
     Posted August 31, 2010 at 5:37 am

     OH, my hell! Its to early for this shit!I can see everyone’s point of view here, and I can she that it is turning into a vertual she said, she said, she said, I said bunch of bs. I know this, because this same exact thing happened to me yesterday when I was fighting to get my job back!

     I am still a “newbie” and yes I will admit that freely. I think everyone needs to take a moment, and step back. This is going nowhere fast. Someone said that we are here for snark and whit, and humor on a otherwise Craptastick show. Not every poster on here is going to get along, even I know that. I also know that not everyone is going to agree on someones point of view. But can we please put it to rest? There are 2 episodes that I really want to comment on, and I know that we are all going to be commenting on them. Please Ladies, and Matt, can we put all this bullshit behind us and start fresh on the newest Recap that BBtiz is going to bless us with soon? Please, please, please for the love of all that is good, please can we all get along? If not for good, for 1 fucking episode?

     Ok, my rant is over, slowly drinking my coffee..oh yeah btw-anyone know a good lawyer in the San Diego area or in Washington State?? Because I feel like I am going to be cast as Danielle in my own reality version of hell, and the episodes will be called, “I have nothing to say, you can talk to my lawyer!”

     And my last thought–I hate Theresa! But I heart all of you!

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     classy drunk
     Posted August 31, 2010 at 6:25 am

     Well now this is has become awesome this situation has become awesome. People are choosing sides and have form a if your not with us you are against us attitude. This is what makes good reality tv and since I can’t watch tv at work this will have to do.

     Are there going to be names for the alliances?

     @tvholic, Fortunately for the men in the world I don’t have a husband, but if I got one he would probably be a serial killer because I have a knack for picking out criminals to date. I don’t know….call it a gift that I have.

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     Alison Zimmerman
     Posted August 31, 2010 at 6:27 am

     I meant that I can see that–There is alot going on right now, and the fact that I was up all night does not help the fact that by brain is going faster then my fingers here…I am off to my own corner to beat my head against the wall with my blueberry pop-tart and morning coffee, wondering what I did to piss off someone that I hardly know to make them…….oh nevermind..

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     Alison Zimmerman
     Posted August 31, 2010 at 6:29 am

     @classy-that is quite the gift!

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     classy drunk
     Posted August 31, 2010 at 6:30 am

     @Alison, I know. I can feel the jealousy through the words that you have typed.

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     Alison Zimmerman
     Posted August 31, 2010 at 7:30 am

     @classy, yeah, you know it!! just don’t tell the hubby! ha ha- thanks for the chuckle

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     chemgal
     Posted August 31, 2010 at 7:43 am

     You know women who watch someone else treat someone badly but say “well, they were always nice to me”? That’s what this feels like.

     I’m not going to cut and paste, and I’m not going to rehash it all. I myself defended sarcasatire – again, not going to cut and paste, but if you’re in doubt, take the time to look.

     I’m not going to leave, because I enjoy the snark and the intelligent discussion.

     I can’t leave Robin and PCheez out there though trying to get their point across without adding my two cents though. No “veterans” have bullied or attempted to bully people off the site. Have we circled the wagons against bomb throwers – absolutely. A bomb thrower is way different then a dissenting newbie. Have some people been told if they don’t like something that there are other sites available – yes. Same way we would tell someone who doesn’t like the Real Housewives franchise that there are a whole host of other channels and programming out there for them.

     Just as in real life, some of what has recently been going on is done so subtlety, that to even mention it makes the recipient sound paranoid. Its like a parent who watches the kid who is mean by offering everyone else a stick of gum, but leaves one their kid out. You can’t call the mean kid on it – you know exactly what the intention was, but if you bring it up, you sound like you’re crazy – the reaction from the other parents would be “what, a stick of gum? You’re worried about a stick of gum?” You’re met with wide eyed astonishment and even the mean kid is like “I didn’t mean it, I just ran out” or “i didn’t know they wanted a stick of gum”. This has been the cyber equivalent of that.

     Sure, we can get back to the recaps and the snark, but the tone has for sure changed, I for one even when the comments are focusing on the show, don’t find them as insightful or interesting or entertaining. For those that think its just sour grapes regarding a seemingly successful coup, it will be interesting to see how the comments segment continues to shake out.

     Thank you for allowing me a chance to say my peace. Now I will take my gold metal from the special olympics and hang it in its proper place.

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     kdognatl
     Posted August 31, 2010 at 7:49 am

     Damn, I feel like I am tardy to the party, lol. Well, I’ll be Lisa, for one my man is big, (light) chocolatey and fine and we’re in the A

     @Classy, poor poor Sparkles…………..

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     Prodigal Cheez
     Posted August 31, 2010 at 7:52 am

     There may be valid grounds for people who feel their opinions might not be, or haven’t been treated respectfully, however that does not invalidate the experience of the regular posters on the board in this case.

     I stand behind my belief on certain things taking place, they started taking place long before Twunty left and did not take the form of constructive dialogue until it became expedient for that person to do so in an effort to create division and dissension on the board.

     We ALL tried to move forward, I made a point of interacting in a friendly and inclusive way with this poster, only to find more dissension coming up on each board. The focus has evolved into a dialogue about how the politics of the board operates within a framework of regular versus “quiet” posters, and people who feel unwelcome posting. That’s one good thing coming out of this, I was personally unaware of it, and feel bad that was how things were playing out. But I can’t intuit negatives, if no one is speaking up as they are experiencing negative feedback, or perceived negative feedback then the problem festers and finds a fistula through other, unrelated and unhealthy means; and one valid issue becomes confused and diluted with another issue that does not deserve the same attention or emotional energy.

     Trolls look for opportunities to drive wedges where there are fissures and cracks, no one who cares about this site wants that. The person I am discussing has shown no interest in anyone else’s pain except her own, and has only grabbed onto this issue because it’s creating animosity and divisions that appear on the surface to be unhealable.

     I disagree with that. I am an empathetic person, and if something I am doing is creating a feeling of exclusion or hurt feelings in someone else, then I am sorry and I am mortified to be so disrespectful of other people here. I will gladly reevaluate how I am approaching an opposing point of view, and be more sensitive to the feelings of other. I am happy to do that, it can only make me a better person.

     What I will not do in this case is concede that this problem is that simple, or that the person who has been the catalyst for all the dissension is acting in good faith. I do not believe it.

     @Alison – I have never had anything but respect and interest in what you have to say, sorry if that somehow got lost in translation.

     My suggestion at this point is that we take this discussion off of the boards, and move it to a thread on the forum. It makes all of us look bad, and isn’t doing TVgasm any good either. I am open to any and all constructive dialogue regarding past posting etiquette or lack thereof as the case may be. I’m not going to be laying down and taking hits, but I will listen and keep an open mind.

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     Prodigal Cheez
     Posted August 31, 2010 at 8:02 am

     I started a thread on the Forums:

     Real Housewives Boards Discussion and Resolution

     Under TVgasm General Chat. I don’t know if that was the right place to start a new topic, if not the mods will probably move to the Real Housewives thread.

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     Alison Zimmerman
     Posted August 31, 2010 at 8:15 am

     @Pcheeze, no, what I meant was that WE all need to take a step back from this specific issue. I feel the same way about you. Honestly you and Chemgal were the first 2 people to welcome me to the boards, as the 3 of us have all posted together on a few of the other boards. You both and others have given me some helpful advice over the past 2 weeks regarding my personal matter, and I thank you for that.

     I do agree with you also that this particular subject should be put into the forums. There are many points of view to this topic, and on this board it has taken on a nasty life of its own. I truely do respect everyone and their point of view. It is obvious to me, that even when we are typing our feelings on a subject that it can come off across as harsh and be taken the wrong way as I feel now that that has happened with one of my comments that I made this morning.

     Yes I will admit right now at this moment that I do have to much time on my hands, and if everyone wants to take the time to read all of my specific comments it is beause of what I said around oh I don’t know comment #6. I am a very emotional person, and unfortunatly for me, it comes out when I am typing here on the boards.

     I can also honestly say, that I had a blonde moment this morning, and cannot for the life of me, figure out my own password to this site, and I have been logging in with my facebook account. I would, honestly, rather have a more personal conversation with a few of you, rather then air my busniness on the boards.

     If I have offended anyone, I am truely sorry, That was never my intention this morning when I started out at Comment #250!

     Now, if you will please excuse me, I am going to go cry in a corner, because that is all I have been doing for the past 24 hours…

     ps–Flipit, if you are reading this, help a sister out and please send me my password! I don’t wanna keep signing into facebook to comment! my username is zbugg2004, and I promise to write it down this time! Thanks

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     Tiredofthebandwagon
     Posted August 31, 2010 at 8:22 am

     @sarcasatire o snap! I don’t check the board for one night. I knew she would be back. Came back with guns blazing. There is no conspiracy here. There is no army of trolls plotting takeover. There are just individuals voicing their opinions on the boards. Too bad their opinions go against the Godmother, so she feels the need to come and attack everyone who voiced their opinions. Maybe she thought the comments would dry up once she left but they continued on.
     @ sarcasatire I too love your commentary. If loving your commentary makes me a troll, then so be it. I have been a long time reader. I only felt the need to step in and say something because I felt people were ganging up on you and I didn’t want them to scare you off. 

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     tvaholic
     Posted August 31, 2010 at 8:24 am

     @chemgal-you hit the nail on the head, at least for me
     @classy drunk-and here I thought I cornered the market on “skeevy” guys! (Thanks Teresa, for bringing that back from the 80′s)

     I know, I’m beating Sparkles some more, & I’m sure no one is really interested to hear yet another opinion, but like notwithoutmytv said, we are all attention whores, so giddyup!!

     Any-hoo, back in the days of B-Side & J-Unit, I was a regular reader, commenter, & forums addict. It wasn’t on the comments that people started this same kind of war (well, except for maybe the Svan, but that’s a whole other can of beans), but in the forums. Newbies joined up & participated in the forums then complained about feeling out of the loop, like the existing “clique” was purposely shutting them out. Was either “side” right? Don’t know. Did either “side” have valid points? I’m sure they did. But it soured many people including me on participating anymore. Which kind of made me sad because many of the people I “chatted” with on a regular basis were pretty cool. But I decided I needed to surgically remove myself & interact with people face-to-face, so I took a long break.

     I came back recently on a boring day at work & discovered I really liked Twunty’s writing, & I’ve always adored J-Mo, so I thought, ok, let’s just stick to recaps & stay away from the forums. Ha! Joke’s on me!

     For the most part I’ve stayed out of it as much as possible. I think there are people who erronously (sp?) assume that posting a comment will elicit responses from the community, & if that doesn’t happen, assume they are being given the cold shoulder. I see commenting in the same way I see going to the casino-I don’t expect to win, & I only spend what I can afford to lose. If I do win, it’s a bonus. When I comment it’s because I feel I have something to add, either an opinion or just something that popped into my head, either regarding the recap or another poster’s comment. If I’m not acknowledged by anyone, so what? If someone disagrees, so what? But-one thing I try not to do is meticulously (ok, sp? Gah!) dissect another person’s comment to point out where they were wrong & then go into a detail on why I’m right. I think right here is where things have gone awry. We are not a brain trust given the task of solving everything that is wrong with society; we are a snarky bunch of judgemental TV addicts who spend too much time on the Gasm while at work!!

     Yeah, I know who the hell cares what I have to say. But I do belive these things are cyclical, & it’ll happen again. For fuck’s sake, can we fucking agree to proverbially disagree & fucking get back to these fucking trainwrecks on TV??? Fuck.

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     chemgal
     Posted August 31, 2010 at 8:33 am

     I’m also going to diagnose a serious case of the bullshits too while I’m on a roll. For all you pussies claiming you were to afraid to post. STFU! Seriously??? You’re afraid to post on an anonymous site?? For real?? What ever issues I may have with sarcasatire, she has the balls to post and not claim to be afraid. She argues, discusses and tries to make her point, not claim she is scared. You’re all full of bullshit.

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     Alison Zimmerman
     Posted August 31, 2010 at 8:41 am

     @tvaholic-I 100% agree with your last paragraph, that is what I was trying to say a few comments ago, it just didn’t come out that way. For me it is hard to concentrate when you are in tears from your own personal bs…

     Man I have so much to say about last weeks episode, its hard to hold it all in! Can I be Switzerland and be the neutral territorry? Because sure as Shit I don’t what to be any of these bitches, although I feel like I could be cast as Danielle, But then again I am not “skeevy” like she is, and I know for a fact that there is no sex tape! There sure as hell would have been an ass kickin if asshole boyfriend pulled that shit with me!!

     Is that what fame whores do now adays?? Their 15 minutes is about up, then they make some nasty sex tape, or say that there is a sex tape and want to put it out there to make an extra buck? I don’t get it, get a job, or a hobby…ok gross, I just thought about this alittle to much, Now that the guidices are going for broke, think she is going to come out and say they have one too?? Gross–sorry for those that are eating breakfast!!

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     tvaholic
     Posted August 31, 2010 at 8:44 am

     @Alison-I’m sorry things are shitty for you right now-this should be a happy place for you! Do what I do swear. A lot. It helps, fuckin’ A.Fuck. Shit. Damn. I feel better already!

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     Alison Zimmerman
     Posted August 31, 2010 at 8:53 am

     @tvaholic-Oh believe me, I would make a sailor blush with some of the shit that has been comming out of my mouth! I even talked to my mamma lastnight and she told me to take that fucker to court! I laughed at her-she asked what was so funny, I told her “you said fucker”, she said, “yeah and”, I said, “everytime I say fuck you get mad”, she said, “well, in this case, he is a fucker, and you need to nail his ass to the wall!”. So yes, the swear words have been a flowin, but I still break down in tears!

     Fuck, fuckity, fuck fuck…Thanks Tvaholic! but no, I still feel the same…

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     tvaholic
     Posted August 31, 2010 at 8:58 am

     Sorry, not trying to drag out Sparkle’s corpse anymore, I just want to clarify after reading my too long post. What I said is not directed at any single person. If you read it & think I was bitching about you, I most likely wasn’t. If you read it & think I must be talking about someone else, I was probably talking about you. I just don’t want to name names. I’m just too afraid. Hee hee! @chemgal- I agree, no reason to be “afraid” to post. This isn’t the frickin’ mob or Afghanistan, I think we still have the right to free speech. ANd if you’re too afraid to throw your 2 cents in on a public forum, then you really need thicker skin, or some balls.

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     classy drunk
     Posted August 31, 2010 at 9:30 am

     @tvholic, my serial killer boyfriend and I decided to move Sparkles’ body yesterday as I felt she would get no peace. Since I have no emotional ties to Black Beauty everyone can feel free to beat away.

     @Alison, get it all out girl. I never cry (unless I watch Rudy), but I am sure I cried for a week which for me is the equivalent of 2 months.

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     Tiredofthebandwagon
     Posted August 31, 2010 at 9:31 am

     @chemgal Who is afraid to post? There is a difference between reading and enjoying the comments section without posting actually feeling fearful about posting. If someone was really that afraid to post, I doubt they would jumped into the fray knowing he or she would be told they were full of shit. Or to STFU.
     Of course noone is afraid to post. Everyone has internet courage. Typing things they would never say in person. Only thing that could explain all these Internet Thugs in the comments sections.

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     chemgal
     Posted August 31, 2010 at 9:38 am

     @Tired, again, I’m not going back to cut and paste, but there were a number of people who posted they had been afraid to post before this all happened.

     And see you yourself are just as sly, the STFU and bullshit were about being afraid to post, not about an opinion. So don’t try and play it as if that was what would have happened if they posted an opinion on the show.

     If someone is so afraid to post, or the word bullshit is enough to chase them away, then they have some serious issues that need addressing. Maybe messystation would be available to work 1 on 1 with them.

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     Bionic Television
     Posted August 31, 2010 at 9:59 am

     @tvaholic – omg, totally remember THE SVAN. Memories…

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     Tiredofthebandwagon
     Posted August 31, 2010 at 10:00 am

     @chemgal I didn’t say anything about an opinion in my post to you. I was responding directly to your statement ‘For all you pussies claiming you were to afraid to post. STFU!,’ by saying I doubt anyone is seriously afraid to post on the internet.
     I’m not trying to be sly. I’m actually trying to be direct and to the point. So don’t assign meanings to my statements. That is what causes conflicts because now I have to waste more time clarifying my statement.
     Maybe some of the posters were afraid but now they feel more comfortable posting. Maybe some of the posters decided to ban together and present a united front (troll army theory). Maybe some of the posters are newbies and want to comment on the show. Whatever the reason, we are all here now. So no matter how many curse words you throw out isn’t going to change that fact.
     Cry a river. Build a bridge. And get over it.
     Love and light.

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     Bionic Television
     Posted August 31, 2010 at 10:03 am

     Oh and @chemgal, I guess you’re right to an extent – but I dunno, I think even though it’s anonymous, harsh response & stuff can still sting. Just like when peeps love your comments you feel happy. It’s an interesting phenomenon.

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     chemgal
     Posted August 31, 2010 at 10:11 am

     And that in itself is why perhaps people think you and sarcasatire are one in the same – the ole “who meeeeeeeeeeeeeee?” “what did I dooooooooooo?” “you’re reading to much into it”

     you hope people don’t care enough – which most won’t – to go back and read your post and take you at the word of you denial of what your post meant. And don’t go into the bull crap ( I’ll refrain from harsher so as to not scare anyone off) of reading into your meanings – that’s the last defense of someone trying to engage in subtle war of words.

     The other reason I’m calling bull crap on all these folks (and you are one of them) who claim to be long time viewers, newer posters who feel they were either shut out or bullied off, is because all of you waited until sarcasatire stuck her neck out there. You all waited and let her take the brunt of it and then jumped in. So as much as I personally believe that sarcasatire has an ulterior motive, I am going to respect her that she went solo.

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     chemgal
     Posted August 31, 2010 at 10:17 am

     @BT (do you mind the shortening of your screen name?) you are right as well. Most of the posters though weren’t harsh, unless the initial comment made was so obviously done to attack the recapper or another poster. All of us were newbies at sometime and if everyone was driven off, there wouldn’t be anyone but …. I don’t even know who ….. I know some people were here before I came on, and some obviously had been here and then left and then came back, and some are newer posters, but may have been long time readers.

     I just find it suspect myself that there were all these unhappy readers who felt scared and now because sarcasatire “took on” pcheez, they are all suddenly unafraid to post? it stinks of bullshit to me.

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     chemgal
     Posted August 31, 2010 at 10:20 am

     I’m done with this on the board. I’ll gladly continue discussing it with anyone on the forum boards. A thread has been started under I believe TVgasm general topics. You may need to poke around to find it.

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     Tiredofthebandwagon
     Posted August 31, 2010 at 10:46 am

     @chemgal I never said I was afraid to post. I never said I felt bullied. I specifically said I was a long time reader that never commented but felt the need to comment when I felt people were ganging up on sacrasite and twisting her words. I don’t see it as sacrastis sticking her neck out or taking on pcheez. I think she was just responding to direct attacks. And she was attempting to clear up her statements. The other posters saw what was happening and stepped in to tell her, she wasn’t the troublemaker.
     And now you are twisting my words. And insulting both me and Sacarsite by implying we are the same person. Is that the best you can do?
     If all other logical arguments fail, resort to name calling (pussies). If that doesn’t work, mischaracterize previous statement. O wait, what if others read the previous comments and see through my attempts. Well just claim it’s the same person. Say it enough and maybe people will begin to think it is true. That’s the winner right there!
     I can’t speak for other posters. I’m just letting you know I was NEVER scared to post. And honey I stick by my previous statements. Bullies and internet thugs are running rampant in these comment sections. I’m not taking anything to a forum because quite frankly I find this whole battle to be ridiculous. And I find your tactics to be absurd. And I’ve wasted enough time responding to you. Twist my words away to your heart’s content. It’s not going to stop me from reading. Or commenting, when I feel like it.
     ‘Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.’

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     Stewinberri
     Posted August 31, 2010 at 10:46 am

     And I thought I was afraid to comment because I might be screwed over by captcha!

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     Bionic Television
     Posted August 31, 2010 at 10:46 am

     @chemgal – I stopped commenting initially because, after graduating from college, I spent a few years in an industry that gave me no free time during the day. Now for the past year or so I have a bit more time at work, and I am professionally involved in television, so I wanted to jump back into the boards. It just took me a while to do so because I felt the nature/tone of the discussions had changed. Just wanted to be clear on that. Never meant to imply that I was “chased away” by anyone. Know what I’m sayin’?

     I can’t wait for the new recap to wipe this slate clean!

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     sarcasatire
     Posted August 31, 2010 at 12:40 pm

     @chemgal..the fact that you think Tired of the Bandwagon and I are one and the same reeks of Sparkles’ BS. First, you give me credit for standing up for myself, saying I wasn’t afraid to speak my mind, then you accuse me of hiding behind an alias. Which is it?

     I guess it doesn’t matter. You first alluded to a ‘slight change’ in my behavior towards you. When I asked you to elaborate, you didn’t, just went back to defending PCheez and ridiculing those ‘newbies’ who didn’t post before, calling them ‘pussies’..not because they were afraid, but because they didn’t want to have to defend their opinion once it was swatted to the ground by The Godmother.

     Either way, Sarcasatire is Sarcasatire, and I speak my mind, will defend my position, and can take what is thrown at me…I don’t hide behind an alias, nor am I an internet bully. But, of course..you already knew that. But it felt good to make others wonder..”Hmmm, could it be true?”, didn’t it? Like @Katesmom and @Slowfizz ONLY post to agree with and defend PCheez…never to discuss the show. So, who is creating trolls here??

     That’s what PCHeez is good for…the abdurd. She has always ‘confronted’ me..anyone can see that. I never took an issue up on these boards until she created one. Then when she failed at logic, she implied I called ppl racist (which she did at EVERY chance..played the race card like a champ!), implied I was the root of all things evil (we are unhappy because of you), and now is implying that I am a troll. Because a real person cannot possibly disagree with her. *rolls eyes*

     Yes..take your bs to the forums..outta sight, outta mind.

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     notwithoutmytv
     Posted August 31, 2010 at 1:06 pm

     I think you should all restate your positions. I think we’re close to achieving resolution here.

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     sarcasatire
     Posted August 31, 2010 at 1:10 pm

     @Bionic Tv..don’t defend yourself. We all knew what you meant. But that’s how it starts..they twist your words, make you feel as if you should clarify and before you know it..they’ve sucked into a virtual mindfuck. Let me be the last victim, learn from my mistakes… and do not engage!

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     Prodigal Cheez
     Posted August 31, 2010 at 1:38 pm

     Haha @notwithoutmytv! My position is clear, I hate Trolls.

     Whether they know they are Trolls or not.

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     giffordsaz
     Posted August 31, 2010 at 3:25 pm

     I came out of the Forums to see what the new thread was about… seriously?
     this is an emBareASSment

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     Pegster
     Posted September 1, 2010 at 7:01 am

     Me, too, Giff! This thread is hilarious. I need to start watching The Real Housewives!

     Now I need to get back to work. I just spent an hour reading the commnents on a show I don’t even watch. Lol. I love the interwebs.

     Oh, and I hate Teresa!

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     chemgal
     Posted September 1, 2010 at 7:20 am

     @Pegster, now I love you and still hate Teresa!

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     chemgal
     Posted September 2, 2010 at 6:19 pm

     are we not getting a new episode from Bravo tonight? Do they think we all have lives and are out for the Labor Day weekend already??

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     Cat is SO fake
     Posted October 1, 2010 at 4:31 pm

     I hate cat – yep hate! She is a fool and her voice is so fake and contrived…..Her face and forehead are ugly too. She is such an ugly person that it has made her so physically ugly. You can tell that she has no alliance or loyalty to the US. She is just passing through.
     She is so fake and always jealous of anyone getting attention.

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     I am black
     Posted October 1, 2010 at 4:36 pm

     If the black chick on housewives brings up the race card one more time – and i am black – I will never watch it again. She is very very spoiled acting anyway but the race card every time she does not get her way or every time she disagrees with one of the ladies – she is setting us back 300 years. Oh you dont like me – it can only be because i am black. OH they dont think my story is funny – oh it must be because I am black. Oh they criticize3d me – it must be because I am black. Go away you loser. You are setting us back many hears.
     You are a spoiled lazy-acting, whiney two-faced, petty woman. THIS IS WHY WE DONT LIKE YOU.