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Thursday, October 4, 2012
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I understand. You’re on display. In fact, I wrote a song about it.
I mean, really now, are we going to have to listen to the ballad of Lauren Manzo in the public eye? Anyway, when people are telling her she’s fat and disgusting, and she should do it the old-fashioned way, it’s hard to take so she did what felt right to her. Listen, do we not have enough material what with the failed makeup line and the sheer fact that her her new business is called CaWTF? I have more respect for her for doing the lap band then I did for her parade of thousand dollar starvation cleanses. Why? Because at least the lap band worked.
Also, she says she is still a workout machine and she still “diets”. Well, now we’ve seen her version of dieting, and it involves salad with a side of deli meat, so let’s not get carried away here – if you do opt for lap band, you sort of lose the high horse position of telling us how you diet. Also, she allegedly works out for 2 hours every morning and kickboxes for an hour every night. I think she’s been emulating Teresa in the denial department – 3 hours of gym and day and dieting…she’s improved but hardly anorexic.
Call us when you give up pepperoni.
And then one of my favorite parts of the reunion, when Andy, reads a viewer letter that points out that for all Caro’s condescending commentary about how she just doesn’t understand Lauren’s struggle because she’s always been so very tiny – she was fat in Season One! Thank you, cause I’ve been riding that wave allllll season long.
Caro and Lauren exchange a glance and I kind of get the feeling that this topic has already been discussed and probably fought over already. CAro explains herself by saying that she couldn’t relate to the struggle of a young girl, because when she young, she looked like Melissa. Delusion…it’s catching!
Andy also mentions that she was very harsh and direct with Lauren and does she think that contributed to Lauren’s lack of self-esteem? And the answer/really-lame-excuse is a great one – “I didn’t say it to her face,” Caro explains.
And thank you Andy Cohen for being on the ball here, because he immediately shoots back, “Isn’t that worse?” Thee people are all such two-faced hypocrites. I would love to see Caro’s response if Ter had used that one. ”I didn’t say it to her face.”
Sensing it’s a good time to bring Ter back into things, he asks her what she thinks of Caro’s kids. And another classic response – she thinks they’re great, but…before BLK water, didn’t none of them work? This unleashes a new torrent of screaming from the Manzo couch.
“Oh, they didn’t work at the Brownstone????” says Lauren.
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when caroline reprimanded tre in the beginning that they all might as well go home if tre wasn’t going to let anyone else talk….the only ppl doing any interupting were caroline and jacquee….tre had been pretty quiet at that point…it was obvious caroline had a mission
Great recap you really captured the true joy and just how truly happy these people are inside. One thing I never understand they are always going to tear someone’s head off or kill someone but they never do . Now that would be great cover story. What is this the WWE
I have 2 sons with autism. I have sobbed as Jacquee sobbed. But I always had tears. She did not. I am not denying her pain, just that specific moment in time.
This show just makes me sad. Like it has destroyed these women’s friendship and not a single one of them are happy. It’s not even entertaining. Their marriages are failing, their finances are shot, and their lives are crumbling and it gets filmed for everyone to see. I can’t imagine having the world watch my, what really should be private, problems. It’s so miserable that I can’t laugh at it. I don’t condone anything Tre’s done but god…. Sometimes her situation is just heartbreaking. She always looks so hopeless.
I miss the days where these Housewives shows were more fun than drama. Anyone else miss the days where you actually liked some of the people in the show??
@ChickBomb You deserve all kinds of applause for recapping this historically terrifying reunion.
Anything Tre and Kat say about each other’s parents they’re saying about their own blood. Since it’s their aunties and uncles. So I’m calling drama effect on that 1. Plus lining up Rosie in case there was anybody that had missed her episodes.
If somebody else was to say something about them though, then that’d be a different story. Which is how come the rest of them stayed quiet just that 1 time.
My favorite thing about GLITTER EYESHADOW SHOWDOWN is that they’ve never even pretended they do their own makeup.
Even for their kid’s birthday. In their own house. Not to mention on any kind of panel show with a presenter the makeup dept does everybody’s makeup. Even people that believe they and the Bachelorette all write their own blogs know that.
So the whole SHOWDOWN was off on that same logic vacation with Lauren hoping she’ll gain her weight back.
It’s also a good reminder that maybe 10% of anything that comes out of any of their faces makes a lick of sense.
Which when you think about it, makes you sit down and LOL for a while all by itself!
” It is simply a known fact that if invited, she will attend. ”
So, if I invite Melissa to my kids birthday party she’ll show? Cool. Bring a good gift.
Back to reading….
*sigh* I was really looking forward to an accurate recap but again a blog full of making excuses for Teresa & blaming everybody else but her. “Teresa gave a low blow BUT they deserved it. On the other hand, Kat gave a low blow so of course Teresa had the right to call her DECEASED father a dead beat dad..what did she expect” UGH..I’ll be back when gasmi show up to talk about what actually happened in the reunion.
@fancyface – everyone’s entitled to an opinion. I personally think Caro and Jacq are loathsome and hate them more than Teresa. Obviously you do not. Our separate opinions do not mean that the recap and comments are somehow ‘suspect’.
I am sick to death of the jump on Tre show. And I don’t even like her. But the pile on is ridiculous at this point. And Jacq is just an idiot. I feel bad for her kid and his disorder, that has suck written all over it. But that doesn’t make Jacq any less loathsome to me. And yeah, the crying is OTT at this point, especially when she can’t even summon up real tears. She’s just a mess, and not an honest one. Ugh. If I have to choose a dog in this hunt, I’ll go sit by Tre.
Holy hell – you did something amazing here, recapper! You made me laugh and laugh and laugh at something that initially horrified me. Somehow, reducing it into words – albeit cleverly and with a wink and a smile – you have turned something dark into something ludicrous and quite funny.
In the end, you gotta laugh – screaming is no good. They cant hear us through the screen anyway!
And btw – your take is dead on. Don’t go changing….
I too felt that there was a lot of snark missing from the recap by missed opputunities to take a swipe at Theresa. That’s why I read the recaps for the funny snark on all of them. Not a fan of any particular one they are all flawed. But then again Anderson Cooper needed an Ambien after watching the reunion! So recapping it has got to ba tough job.
@yourlittledogtoo: cosigning your entire post! Just glad I didn’t have to type it out on this Kindle Fire, lol. We’re all entitled to our opinions, and yes, some people hate Caroline and Jaqui more than they do. Teresa. It’s okay to disagree but why dismiss the opinions of others, let alone, the recapper? Teresa had no intentions of turning RhoNJ into her family feud shitshow. Remember the christening? Teresa was sweet and gracious, old school like of keeping family business private, and Melissa, her sisters, and Midge Joe talked crap the whole time and got nasty when she came over to congratulate them. Midge even called her “garbage.” Sorry, HE embarrassed the family. HE almost gave his dad a heart attack and HE and Melissa started airing family dirty laundry. As vile as Teresa was to Danielle, all this could’ve been avoided had the Gorgas just accepted the Congrats and moved on. But they gave us a two season arc of depressing family drama and dog piling the rabbit. Now they’ve shot themselves in the foot because Tee pulls in the most ratings same as why she gets covers and why she can do interviews alone while the rest come in groups. Now they’ll refuse to shoot with her and if she’s fired the lack of storylines in the remaining group would guarantee waning interest amongst viewers. I put your money on it. lol
So much for not typing a lot on the Fire! Haha
I guess I should’ve just said I agreed!
It amazes me how invested some people get with this show/characters. Logically, none of these women are perfect and all have a hand in the debacle they call “friendships”, but to state that a perfectly fine recap is inaccurate solely because one person (Teresa) is not being blamed for the entire problem, that is going a little too far. I thought the recap was great and entertaining, which is more than can be said about actually watching a bunch of grown women conducting a curse filled version of a 3rd grade “You’ve got cooties” fight.
So Jacqueline’s son was recently diagnosed with autism, right? And one of the hallmark symptoms of autism is an ability to recognize and interpret social cues, particularly facial expressions, in other people. The first few years of life are the most critical for a child to learn this skill. Children learn this through daily frequent interaction with their primary caregivers, i.e. their mothers and fathers. As we saw on the reunion, Jacqueline’s face is getting more and more “frozen” from Botox and other injectables. If injecting your face with stuff interferes with your ability to utilize all your facial muscles to make natural, human facial expressions, this cannot possibly be helpful for the autistic child struggling to read human faces. Perhaps frozen face contributes to worsening autism symptoms in children with parents who have gone overboard with Botox… I don’t know, but this has been bothering me since I watched that stupid reunion show. Has anyone else considered this possible connection?
@dog…1st of all…great way of pointing out we’re all entitled to our opinions & then telling me mine are somehow irrelevant..so there’s that.
If I read a recap that excuses Teresa’s behavior & no one else & somehow blames everything Teresa actually said on the people she’s insulting…I will point it out…because you know…OPINIONS and all. This recap is Teresa bias just like the rest of them have been & you can agree to disagree but you can’t tell me my opinion is wrong. Sorry you can…but I have no shits to give about your opinion of MY opinion. Umkay, Pumpkin?
Now to be clear…Rather it’s Teresa or not, any bias recap is never a good recap. I don’t care who’s favor it’s in. I can’t stand Teresa (duh), I LOATHE Caroline (and I encourage everyone to do so as well), I’m dismissive of Kathy, Jacqueline annoys me, & I tolerate Melissa…so MY comment isn’t in favor of one over the other..I just like to discuss what ACTUALLY happened & what was said & not have it slanted to favor one cast member. Nothing more nothing less. I see this and past recaps as Ter bias & I’m pretty sure I’m not alone here (but even if I am..I’m the only one that matters in my little world, so who cares
). IMO the ‘snark’ about Teresa was there but followed by excuses for her behavior. No one else got that benefit. Now if the parent argument highlighted BOTH sides & not just slamming Kat for finally defending herself, I would probably feel differently, but it didn’t so I’ll just repeat what I said on the mini:
I fail to see anything wrong with what Kathy said about her mom & dad. Ter said her mom said Kathy almost got a divorce (you know the mom that didn’t even speak with Kathy until she came on the show but somehow Kat confided in her about problems with Rich) & if it is a lie…Ter mom’s is in fact a liar, so there’s that. Ter then said something asinine like ‘say it to my dad’ to which Kathy said she tried but he walked away when she came to talk to him, again, if that’s true…in her eyes, he is in fact a coward.
Now, calling someone’s deceased father essentially a dead beat dad? PROBLEM! Especially when Ter is probably basing that on that one time her dad had to lend his sister money or some small shit like that & not the fact that he bailed on his kids or wasn’t there for them or something that would actually make him a dbd. I don’t blame Kathy or Rosie for losing their shit when she said that disgusting shit.
Teresa will say and do ANYTHING to get the heat off of her & put it on someone else. She NEVER owns up to what she does unless she says ‘well you did it too’ or some shit like that. UGH! HATE!
In conclusion…Teresa is a vile psychopath who I would love to see Rosie ravage, Kathy shouldn’t let whoever did her hair/makeup near her again & thank FUCK she finally stood up for herself, Jacqueline needs quiet time away from the cameras and into a therapy session because bitch is losing it, Melissa is doing herself no favors by pretending she doesn’t spar with Teresa & should just admit she gives as good as she gets & the innocent act should be dropped IMMEDIATELY because no one is buying that bullshit, & Caroline should be killed. THERE. I said it!
I think Chickbomb does a good recap – but is a little Teresa blind. If you want to read side-splitting recaps on RHONJ, go to the archives and read Twunty McSlore’s old recaps. You will laugh so hard you’ll lose your breath – and BOY did she have Ter’s number.
Recommending another recapper on ChickBomb’s recap?! Rude.
“This recap is Teresa bias just like the rest of them have been”
Welp Fancy you knew what you were getting into when you read it.
I don’t know about this whole fair and balanced thing when it comes to recaps, but I am glad the comments are hear so that you can discuss your grievances with Teresa.
And before you go on a page long rant I am the President and Owner of the I hate Teresa over extended hairline club. We are hoping to get a website soon.
@Classy…”Welp Fancy you knew what you were getting into when you read it. ”
Yeah you’re right but a girl can dream! I just thought she was SOOOO disgusting at the reunion that at least SOME of that would’ve been discussed honestly, but alas, twas not to be. So..I am, as you are, extremely glad the comments are here!
No rant, said my piece. I actually think CB is funny & I like reading her recaps for the most part but come on! It’s so blatant.
NOW…what’s up with Mel wearing basically the same thing Ter has on in her interviews but making it look SO much better? Was it the feathers & helmet hair/low hairline combo orr….? I don’t get it. And I may be in the minority but I actually like Ter’s Christmas dress..I mean if you avoid looking at her rubber, moley orange chest that is. Love the different color trim!
#5 – Valleygirl – you took the words out of my mouth. It is just SAD.
Chickbomb…I really loved reading the recap.
I teared up over Nicholas’s autism.
I have a soft spot for children and animals (maybe why I don’t go hard on Theresa…zing!)
The way these women try to cut each other…jeesh!
“You’re green with envy”
“How do you spell napalm?”
What’s next? Are they going to recycle Kyle Richard’s “Angry Spice” zinger?
And the point to this show is……….?
Because I have no idea why a group of women would agree to film their misery on camera like this in front of a national audience while their respective families – and this includes small children who have no control over the content – are subjected to this much hate and self destruction.
Uninmanagable that people sign up for this.
My feeling of what is really going on is this:
Season 1 portrayed Caroline as the “voice of reason” putting her “wisdom and family values” on display that earned her “fans”. She then coached the audience in accepting the idea of the Manzo Brothers as those “two crazy kids” who would attract the younger women and propel them into “fame”. In those days, Caroline found Teresa to be a regular riot and stated that this was ”
Teresa being Teresa” which became one big guffaw watching her antics.
But it turned very dark when Danielle was on and Teresa’s “table tipping” brought her more attention than the others. So the producers decided to concentrate on Teresa and she became the main reason for the audience to tune in. Her stupidity became a must see.
As a result, I think Teresa began to “lord it over” the others. She herself was “on display” and in all honesty who really was tuning in to watch self righteous Caroline, dull and vapid Jacqueline, and the equally boring Manzo Brothers whose luster began to peel off in due course.
I think Teresa began to see herself as the “star” with her cookbooks, personal appearances, mag covers, and her stint on Celebrity Apprentice. This “tipped” their apple carts for the same amount of attention and the fights backstage began to brew. Teresa can’t help herself with her own bragging and series of lies and this must have rubbed the others the wrong way.
My guess is that it is Teresa’s attitude that is chiefly at fault for the breakdown and these idiots, thinking themselves worthy of the same attention, cannot help but react negatively. Thus the hatred become full blown and now everybody is at everybody else’s throats because they know that Teresa is a lying, cheating, backstabbing, bankrupt moron who has managed to become the center of attention and this is what is driving them all nuts.
OK– nedd to get a couple of thoughts out– and then will read and respond to fellow commenters–
Lauren– gotta start with you first–You lying, flabby COW. I am not seeing as much as 35 pounds–so I wont comment on that. I will however call you out on “working out”–I am a lot older than you sweetheart-and my arms and ass are better toned that yours. I walk 2 hours ever day and do Yoga to tone.
Further Lauren—-napalm– you illiterate–There is no way you knew what the word was or meant before this show. Not sure who provided said word, but you probably thought it was something to put on pasta. I HEARD YOU SPELL IT——N A Q U L M” Really????? sweet Jeebus.
You have a foul mouth and I am surprised that you opted for “chuckie” over “twat” Yes Lauren–Auntie Cawfee hears all— I hear you say it at PFS.
OK–moving on –smiling brightly—Jaxx–I wish and pray for progress with Nick– I think he is the squishiest little squishy baby–and that beautiful little guy will make strides. I agree to ChickyB that Caro is someone to have in your corner at a time like this–someone to to research, watch CJ, yell at doctors—these are Caro strengths.
I read that she was bombed out of head last year and Chris and the producers kept her off the screen. I also think her own past was possibly coming out.
@ 4 Closety– oh hon– will keep good thoughts and energy going for you and your family.
I think Jaxx has so much Botox in her face that tears and sweat dont occur.
@ 6 kthx– hey did you catch Lapband’s look when GlitterGate was about to blow?? Do you think she did the make-up?? Or even better wasnt allowed to do the make-up??
Oh Chicky–thank you for recapping & making sense of alot of this cray-cray. I think the cameras have not stopped rolling on this group–nosireebobby. I think after the 2011 Reunion, they all began filming again to keep those BRAVO paychecks coming.
You make an excellent point Katie–Tre broke out from the rest of the show-and I think gained alot of advisement from behind the scenes–lawyers, managers, publicists. Her vocabulary is at times a little advanced for the regualr Tre we all know and watch. I dont mean that in a bitchy sense–she isnt an illiterate (yeah Lapband–am looking at you when I type that)– but she isnt a savvy, informed person.
Tre became the “star” and also has a lot of hustle– I think we all saw that. Hustle plus desperation was her ticket to keep a roof over their heads. Sadly there is an E-True Hollywood Story in her near future.
I think they are more upset that Teresa is more famous than they are upset at her lying. It’s amazing how much of her antics Caroline was able to forgive when Teresa was a sidekick on the Manzo train. Now,….unforgivable!
The rest of your post is spot on, Katie.
I agree with everyone else (Valleygirl, etc), because as I was watching this I was more sad than entertained. First season, these women were just pretty normal, not a whole lot of drama, fights, or problems. Then Tre flips that table and all hell broke loose.
Now these women and men (and MANY in the RH Franchise) are miserable, broke, divorced, arrested, being sued, or dead ……and the common thread between all of them is Bravo. Then I get disappointed at myself that I continue to watch this crap. UGH
But then I also ask myself, WHY do these women continue to re-sign for this show year after year if they are so miserable? If they are willing to air their dirty laundry to all the world for money, fame, and endorsements, I guess me watching them is the least of their problems.
Well stated Katie @24. I won’t be watching Part 2 or 3 of the Reunion because my brain can’t handle anymore of this vile crap. However, I will be here to read CB’s recaps and the comments! I’m team no-one, well, with the exception of the children (under 12 that is!). I’m glad we all have our varied opinions – that’s what makes the world go round!
Sorry Chick, but I am again reading an apologistic recap for Teresa. Yes Kathy went low blow but Teresa started it and you can tell Kathy responded from the gut. From reading Kathy’s blog, what Teresa said might have been true, but so low and callous I don’t care what followed. Her whole whoa is me I’m the victim yet never once has she walked away and said “I’m done.” Nope she sticks around and drags her family through the mud and blames everyone else for it. Can’t wait to see who she blames the phone call on and her desperate love me Joe act in the vineyard.
I hope things get better for the Laurita’s.
Chick you can be dragged into a bankruptcy. All it takes is for one creditor to say no.
@NAPerfekt, agreed. I’m team no-one, but I enjoy reading CB’s delightful recaps and all the comments.
I just want to run and hug my friends.
Scare the hell out of them.
Totally agree @Classy Drunk. It is Teresa biased but I knew that going in. And let me give the disclaimer that I am firmly firmly firmly in the Anti-Teresa camp (and not in anyone else’s) but I am disappointed at the downplaying of the napalm bit. That is the first time in all the seasons and reunions of the show that I can recall where I’ve seen Teresa flat out speechless. To gloss over this b/c Lauren proved something that was obvious to all of us isn’t the point, its the point that for once Teresa couldn’t lie/accuse/deflect her way out of something and that was one of the few amusing moments of the whole horrific thing.
Also, with respect to the Riche v. Juicy Joe comparison, Jackie is called out for her catty comment but the entire discussion is catty on Teresa’s part, is it not? Maybe catty is giving her too much credit, childish and immature? My husband is more attractive than yours! I’m so entertained by the fact that Teresa thinks that Juicy Joe has a leg to stand on against any of the other husbands…Juicy Joe is one of the most disgusting, ignorant, vile and unattractive husbands on all of the RH franchises period, but I guess it’s just more evidence of her delusions.
Anyone who still defends Teresa needs to have their head examined.
@andyourlittledogtoo and @sarcasatire 100% agree with everything you both said about the show. The whole reason they brought the Gorgas and Wakiles on the show was to cause drama with Teresa. It’s pretty obvious that was the reason. I guess if my family was brought on to a show that I was on just for the sole purpose of going after me, I might get a bit upset, too.
I said before that I have never been a Teresa supporter, but I hate the other ones, especially Cowaline, even more now. Wasn’t sure about Kathy at first, but I’m starting to think that was her motive, too. I think Melissa is acting (and not very well, I might add) and fake as hell. Liked Jac at first, now I think she’s very unstable. Also, while I feel terrible about her son, I didn’t like the way it was presented at the reunion. Something about it was very manipulative. If she’s so concerned about her son (not saying she isn’t) why invest yourself in all this Teresa crap and just concentrate on him? Give yourself a nervous breakdown over her? That’s crazy.
A lot of people think that Teresa is manipulative and the one causing the trouble, but I really think that’s giving her too much credit. She really isn’t that bright and I think she’s really having a hard time understanding why they’re all being mean to her when she thought all was fine and dandy and the way it’s always been. I really think what you see is what you get with Tre and they knew who and what she was when they became friends with her.
It just reeks of bullying and piling on and after awhile, it gets hard to not feel bad for Teresa. Never thought I would say those words. Well, I guess now she feels some of what Danielle did, but it pisses me off when people don’t call out smug ass Caroline and drunk ass Jaqueline. I read too that was the reason she wasn’t at last year’s reunion and I believe it.
@ 15 RideNaddy I was reading what you wrote and that could be a description of Teresa. She has issues with social cues. Wonder if she is slightly autistic.
@hot cawfee: ‘ I HEARD YOU SPELL IT——N A Q U L M” Really????? sweet Jeebus.’
I am fairly certain that Lauren knows how to spell ‘napalm’ correctly. She was simply calling out Teresa to the spelling/definition challenge since they all know that troglodyte is incapable of any written effort above the 1st grade level. She can barely read, FFS, how can anyone accept her lying claims of being the sole author of her own blog and/or tweets? It must have really chapped Lauren’s hide to hear and watch Tre spew bullshit and lies about everybody on the blog, and she decided to expose the cheating piece of garbage for what she really is – an uneducated, intellectually incurious, illiterate idiot who won the life’s lottery with getting cast on this show. To watch Tre parlay being one of a few dozen women on a relatively insignificant reality tv show into a full-blown, profitable career would drive anyone crazy if they had the same amount of exposure and familiarity with Tre as they all do. So she picked a word that was clearly used on Tre’s blog at some point (I remember reading about it elsewhere), and knowing there was not a chance in hell Teresa would know it, threw the challenge her way. All Tre could do was again lie to everyone’s faces, again deny and deflect, yet she could not do the one thing that would have put the end to the accusations of ghost-writers etc. She could not spell ‘napalm’ to save her life. And after rewinding the DVR a few times, I believe that it was Lauren’s final attempt at discrediting Tre when she misspelled the word in a way she believed Tre would have written it had she been the actual author of the blog.
As to Lauren’s other claims, I’m with you that she lied to our faces about working out 3 hrs a day. Bwahahahaha! She clearly has NO CLUE what working out really means – as opposed to the pretend workouts we’ve seen her play at over the years, when she walked around between sets, sat and chatted, lied down and just stayed like that without any exercise, etc. Nobody will ever convince me that she’s working out at all. She still has the flabby physique of a person whose body knows no physical effort at all; there is no definition to any muscle groups, there is no toning, there is nothing other than pure weight loss. Next thing on her agenda is probably a tummy tuck and lipo to get rid of all the excess skin and fat, as she will clearly NEVER have enough determination, dedication and work ethic to make them go away the old fashioned way, by truly working out.
Finally – Lauren, whatever you did to yourself, you look MUCH WORSE now. I don’t know if there was some plastic surgery involved or if the weight loss exposed the true features and bone structure of her face, but she looks SOOOOOO much worse now. She is pure Jersey Shore trash, especially with that makeup she gave herself. Bloody hell, is that what she offers clients at her CaWTF??? If so, I wonder it is still in business. I mean, she looked like a cheap hooker from a street corner, and the protruding facial features (especially the nose and chin) with the nightmare eye shadow gave her the appearance of a vulture circling the carrion. I wonder when Daddy is going to take care of that now, since it seems that’s how she deals with her life/body issues, by throwing Daddy’s money at them. If Caro stays for another season I will not be surprised to see Lauren with a different face then.
@labowner: ‘Chick you can be dragged into a bankruptcy. All it takes is for one creditor to say no.’
Also, if you do business with unscrupulous a-holes like Juicy, you may end up holding the bag on huge expenses that were incurred and never satissfied by the party who bought your product/services. When such a-hole declares his own bankruptcy, or simply keeps stalling on repayment, you actually may end up being forced to declare bankruptcy yourself, if the burden they renegged on was significant enough to cripple you financially. Happens all the time. That’s why I have so much hate and disdain for Tre and Juicy. They took the easy way out, they robbed people blind by not paying what they owed, and then they declared bankruptcy. And by the time the terms were finally worked out, you might have already gone out of business and bankrupt yourself. Yet they claim that ‘THEY DID NOTHING WRONG!’ , ‘IT WAS JUST MONEY!’, ‘EVERYBODY DOES IT!’. No, not everybody does it. Only irresponsible, narcissistic, self-serving assholes like you and your caveman husband behave like that, and I sincerely wish that all that money you made on the show was taken away from you the way you took others’ livelihoods. Karma may be slow in coming, but beware when it does…
Great recap CB, thank you! I agree with most everything you say, you could have gone harder on Tre in some instances but for the most part, spot on on the things you chose to discuss.
Had it been biased towards Caro and Jax I would have simply disagreed with you and stated my opinion in the comments, not called your recap inadequate, or whatever was said above. There’s no black and white with opinions on a television show, our opinions on what is happening (both before the cameras and behind the scenes) will be colored by our own experiences and perspectives.
Some people do a lot of blog research on behind the scenes stuff (which is overwhelmingly in Tre’s favor) and thefore are more willing to excuse some of her behavior. If you simply watch the show and accept what is presented there as the complete picture, then Tre is absolutely the villain, Jax is a long suffering loyal friend, Melissa is an innocent victim, Kathy is just a mom etc. However wasn’t Tre’s edit much more favorable in the first two seasons as well? Unless you believe that Tre changed from a dimwitted but lovable mom into a scheming mastermind in the course of one season you have to admit that the editors can tell the story they want to tell. People who are aware of this can choose to believe or disbelieve whatever they want, and that doesn’t make anyone wrong.
If the recaps are more upsetting than they are entertaining because of CB’s ‘bias’, prob best to find another recapping site that has RHONJ recaps more in line with your opinions.
Think like me or get out? Is this what I am reading?
That said, my opinion of Teresa changes from time to time, but as of right now I think she can be very mean in her comments, is completely self absorbed and thinks she is and should always be the star of the show and the center of attention. She’s also insanely competetive, completely deluded and very immature. However, I don’t think she’s some maleficent, evil genious, master mind. I think when she feels* attacked, she attacks back (often in a vile and uncalled for way i.e. the blubber comment). It reminds me of how Bethenny once said of Ramona that someone would slap her and she would hit back with a two by four (paraphrasing), as regards her interactions with Luann.
I truly think Teresa believes the things she says, about Melissa competing with her and Kathy and she coming on the show to cause trouble (which considering Melissa’s dealings with Danielle, is a fair assumption), and wanted to expose them FOR THAT. For being trouble makers who were insincere in coming on the show, and wanting the other girls to see that. I’m not saying that is right or what she should have done, in fact, I hate Tre, but for reasons completely unconnected to her dealings with her family.
All I’m saying is that she is getting a worse edit than she is in real life, and the rest of the girls are getting favorable edits. She is essentially being dragged by both the network and her co-stars, when they are all worthy of dragging in ways that they are hiding right now, which will inevitably be exploited when the show needs a new villain.
I hope you’re not referring to my comment Labowner, I think it’s pretty clear that that’s not what I said. It’s right under mine but you didn’t mention a name so I don’t know
@KJN: ‘why invest yourself in all this Teresa crap and just concentrate on him? Give yourself a nervous breakdown over her? That’s crazy.’
See, I think at the time when all this was playing out, Jax was emotionally on the brink of complete collapse. She just received the diagnosis re: Nicholas. She was trying to make sense of the blow dealt her by life for which she was not in any way prepared or equipped to deal with. She always had some co-dependence issue with Teresa, given their being closer in age than Jax with her SILs. While filming the first 2 seasons, they spent even more time together and got even closer. Jacquee clearly has significant psychological and emotional deficiencies, but there is also no doubt in my mind that she is kind-hearted, naive, always expecting the best from people and hoping for bad situation to fix themselves. I also worry that she got too dependent on Rx meds, wine and Twitter, but that is apparently how she deals with stress to keep any sanity left.
I’m convinced that she believed Tre was her closest, dearest friend on S1 and S2, when coincidentally Teresa herself needed support and unquestioning dedication (say what you will about Jax, but I think that is her forte in life, she will dedicate herself to you wholeheartedly). Then in S3 Jax’s situation went to shit and she had the right to expect the same unquestioning love and support she gave, back from Tre. Only Tre has no understaning of human societal canons and contracts. She only takes, takes, takes. She will never give in return, unless it suits her needs. Jax needed support, warm and kind heart, and strong encouragement, and looked to Teresa to provide them. But Tre is a selfish, self-centered ignorant asshole whose brain can only handle the ‘me, me, me’. I think over S3 Jacquee finally, slowly and painfully, came to the full realization of what a true monster Tre is. And when that happens, when your eyes open to someone’s true nature, it is hard to impossible to put the ginny back in the bottle. So whenever she went to Tre for support, and all she got was ‘me, me, me, jealous Melissa, hateful Kat, me, me, me’ she lost any ability to handle reality anymore. The drinking got more frequent, the Rx meds turned into candy-popping, and Twitter became the only outlet where nobody was able to limit her expression, tell her what to think, contradict her intentions. It became the only venue in which she still has TOTAL CONTROL, and so she held to it with a drowning woman’s grip on a life-preserver, until it turned into an obsession and an undeniable necessity to keep her sanity.
I can understand such despair, and it is horribly painful to go thru it, just as it is very sad to watch someone in the throws of it and be unable to help. That’s also additional reason why Caro, Lap-band, and Mel and Kat became even more disdainful of Teresa. If she can do that to a ‘best friend’ she can truly do anything to anyone else. Makes it much easier to believe all the stories they heard around town about Tre’s planting lies about them, working towards hurting them financially, trying to take away their ‘business’ or ‘career’ opportunities.
At the P.o.s.he-WTFuck-sion show it all came to head. Jacquee’s codependence umbilical cord snapped. She has seen Tre in a true light for a while now, knew that this woman is nothing but a hate, jealousy, greed and self-serving entitlement personified. She knew the POS that she used to be so loving towards, that’s why she was so dejected that evening.
With all that in mind, with the constant worry about Nicholas, and the show’s taping not proving enough of a destraction anymore, she then was thrown for the last time under the Teresa freight train, by Teresa herself.
That bitch knew that Jax spent the last few months thinking of nothing but the baby’s future, the baby’s illness, the baby’s possibly destroyed life prospects – and yet, in the bottom of her vile, black, hateful soul found only enough interest to actually use Jax to shift the blame to for her own attrocious behavior. That would have crashed anyone, let alone a woman, a mother, on the edge of a precipice. I understand Caro’s worry now, because she knew the depth of Jax’s despair and knew that what Teresa just did, by dumping all the hate, all the disgust and all her condescension on Jacquee, might break that girl irrepairably.
Jacquee – I feel for you with all my heart. But life is shitty most of the time, and we are delt punches that either take us down and then we get up, or wipe us out. I hope you are able to get up again. That sweet little boy needs you, he needs your love, and your strength which you do not think you have any left of, but you do, it is unending. You already realized what is and what is not, important in life. Re-examine the people in your life the same way, and choose only the ones who are there for you.
Teresa is in every relationship, in every friendship, FOR HERSELF ONLY.
That woman has no heart, has no soul, has no feelings and thus no regrets. She is an empty shell of a monster who is raising 4 more just like her, regreatably. That’s the only thigh I feel bad about when it comes to her – the daughters who will be her spitting image, gross, greedy, vengeful, violent, irresponsible, dumb and self-serving. Other than that, she could drop dead tomorrow, or on her own birthday, and I’d not be able to find a rat’s ass to give.
These broads have so many character flaws and lapses in ethical behavior how can anyone gave a favorite? It’s like having a favorite type of flu. My only, well biggest really, bone to pick s with Tre who seems genetically incapable of saying “you are right”, “I was wrong”, or even “point take.” Girl, even if you don’t believe it, have the brains to buy yourself some goodwill now and again.
@polk8dot I can totally see what you’re saying. I guess, in my mind, I would’ve thought that Caro and Jaq pretty much knew how Teresa was when they became friends with her. I mean, it’s pretty obvious that she’s the kind of friend you can have fun with, but not get too deep with either. Jaq does seem to be the trusting kind and maybe she did read too much into their friendship. I’m much the same way and I’ve been there, so I know what it’s like to get hurt by friends. It sucks.
I guess I was looking at it like why bother letting her get to you when you already have so much to deal with. Cut her loose and be done. I had to do it with someone I was very close friends with for over 20 years. It had to be done. I realized how much she had dragged me down over the years and how much she really only cared about herself. I was 15 when we became friends and 36 when it ended. It would’ve been much harder to do when I was younger. Now that I’m older, I understand sometimes it’s necessary for your own good.
Jac has what appears to be the best husband out of the bunch, parents that seem to be involved, and other family and friends to lean on. I do understand that stress and other factors can influence your mental well-being and thought process and maybe that made all this harder for her.
I don’t hate Jac, but I do feel she lets others influence her too much and get in her head, which only aggravates her situation. I think that Caroline, in her own way, uses Jaq as much as Teresa ever has.
She steam rolls right over her and won’t let the girl finish a thought. For example, before Caroline started freaking out at Teresa about making the comment about her daughter and Jaq’s son being girlfriend/boyfriend, I swear I heard Jaq kind of laugh a little and not in a mean way, but more of a wistful “yeah I remember that and I miss that”. But Caroline just went all apeshit and cut off what maybe could’ve been an opening for the two to talk. I think Jaq is one of those kinds of people that doesn’t like the feeling of fighting with someone and really wants to make up with Teresa, but The Don won’t let her. And I really don’t think Teresa was trying to make it about her. She just isn’t too bright and blurts out whatever comes to her mind. I think she only meant she remembers how he was. She’s not good with words.
That said, I still think Caroline is a smug, self righteous bully and I hate her and her bitter lemon stank face and I always will.
That would be a no to you LaurenB52. Sorry I didn’t respond earlier.
@ Polk8dot – I agree with you, and I think you also have to consider the fact that there were some other stresses in Jacquee’s life while dealing with Nicholas. She had her life force being drained out of her by Moonface and her lack of basically any skill in life besides being a walking debit card to her parent’s checking account and a lush. On top of that, she probably wasn’t comforted too much by the bankrupcy filing for Chris’ business. All that on top of filming for the show would have led me to flee for the hills or a looney bin (though there is a possibility of running into any one of the other Bravo Housewives there!).
There’s an idea, the Real Housewives of the Looney Bin, where former Housewives, Kelly “Crazy Jellybeans” Bensimone, Danielle “Prostitution Whore” Staub and others get a second chance at being a Bravolebrity. Yikes… talk about drama.
Back to Jac though… by now she probably should be thinking of leaving the show so she can concentrate on Baby Nick, CJ and Moonface, as well as seeing a therapist about all her other issues. The rest of the cast… what can you say, but they’re a bunch of crazy bitches who need their 15 minutes of fame. Time’s Up Bitches… Off to the RHOLB for you! Jac will meet you there.
AMAZING recap, ChickBomb. I don’t know how you fit it all in, but you rocked it.
@hot cawfee (#25) I’m going with wouldn’t be allowed to so much as hold the wet wipes. I bet she didn’t ask though. I wondered about that a couple of yrs ago. If she’d take advantage of having a real makeup dept to give her advice etc.
But my guess is by now she wants to be the 1 sitting in the chair. Not standing up by it working.
That reminds me. @ChickBomb should get a special slow clap and Bic lighters in the air for this:
For all the weight loss surgeries in the world, Lauren will always be on the short and stubby side.
If she only ever reads 1 sentence in her life that needs to be it.
I’m mad at
the Bravo reunion script departmentTeresa for making me agree with her. I’m inclined to think operations are for people with bad health problems too. I’m also inclined to give people bonus points if they can figure an easy way out of anything though. Not fuss at them.But easy or hard. Nothing’s going to get you out of how you’re made. To me the problem’s people wanting to get out of it in the 1st place. Lauren needs to listen Ru Paul and love herself.
No prob Lab, was just checking
Why do these women (any season) even want to be on these shows? Almost all have ruined their marriages, family relationships, friendships, bratty indulged children, etc. etc. etc. Is it worth losing all self respect for their 15 minutes and a salary some of them don’t even need?? I guess I answered my own questions.
saw this little tidbit on radar : http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/10/melissa-gorga-shoplifting-arrest-record
That is not life changing but I wouldn’t want to have to explain this to my family and kids when they are older…..
I know there’s not a lot of us but I’m a Kathy fan – and I can’t wait to see Rosie!
Anyone who is upset that the recap doesn’t completely obliterate Theresa like Bravo and the cast does needs to learn independent thought. You people actually believe the lies and BS that come out of the network. Everything was munipulated. Hello, it’s a TV show! As if Theresa set up Mellisa at the fashion show. Yea, Theresa obviously hooked a mic to Angelo. You people probably watch the news and believe every word the journalists say. You need to be able to think for yourself and not reiterate what you are fed.
When Jax was mumbling something like “we know that” about Joe being a ladies man, Caroline quickly hushed her down with a “Dont go there”. Caroline only likes “to go there” when the topic is non reversable and wont come back and slap her in the face.. meaning rumours about her husbands affair. She knows too well that Tre will slam anyone back with the same coin without any hesitation, so she only brings up safe accusations. As much as i find Tre stupid, i simply can’t stand Carolines face and righteous tone.
@fancyface, if you want to read a “summary” of what happened, there are plenty of other websites for that, but a recap, of course, is going to be biased by the recappers opinions of the characters involved. That’s why the comments section on this show are always so viable, because that’s where you can explain why Teresa should be blamed for everything that’s happened, although she was put on the defensive at the reunion and attacked by the four other women.
@Ellen…”Anyone who is upset that the recap doesn’t completely obliterate Theresa like Bravo and the cast does needs to learn independent thought…..You people probably watch the news and believe every word the journalists say. You need to be able to think for yourself and not reiterate what you are fed.”
Don’t insult our intelligence, Sweetie! The Gasmi might be snarky bitches but we are INTELLIGENT snarky bitches as our comments always reflect. Puppets we are not. If YOU believe the LIES that Teresa is spewing then maybe it’s YOUR intelligence that should be questioned. See how dumb that sounds? Chile please!
@Derek…”That’s why the comments section on this show are always so viable, because that’s where you can explain…”
Pretty sure that’s what I said in my comments so…you’re right (?). Biggest problem here is people getting on a soapbox to tell you how what you said is wrong & where you should go because of your OPINION while giving you their OPINION on why yours is wrong. Pretty sure I said I actually enjoy her recaps to an extent but they are heavily Teresa bias, so I don’t really need you or anyone else to tell me how I should comment or advise me to leave. But uh…whatevs! Par for the course.
I can’t wait for tonight’s Part Deux – will Rosie rip out Theresa’s tongue? Will Juicy be sober? Will Jaq cry fake tears? Will Theresa lie and deflect? Will Caroline call her garbage? Cannot wait!!
The gasm is protective of our recappers (thank goodness
). I loooooved this recap, well done! Reunions are so dense with material and some sites totally ignore them so I love when someone goes in and does such a great comprehensive job!
I do think Lauren totally nailed Ter on ‘napalm’ but I have to point out, we now know Lauren Manzo thinks “Napalm” is a big word. It’s like a fifth grader taunting a second grader.
Also hated the little high five kinda “you go girl” moment between Cowaline and Lapband, stop teaching your kids to be insufferable judge assholes. If they were accomplished and interesting and educated I would care about their opinion. Since they are greasy fat couch potatoes I do not.
As to the back and forth on fathers, I think Kathy and Ter were both way in the wrong. Just like not talking about little kids, attacking elderly parents is messed up. And to whoever(s) is so heated about proving Teresa is so awful, just as you can say that Kathy may have just been telling the truth (the old Ramonster defense), well so too could have Teresa. Is she not allowed to tell the truth just because the guy is dead? Lost all respect for Rosie for acting even worse than Teresa’s most heinous freak-out. I used to love her but acting like a prison yard thug I thought was beneath her.
And I hated this reunion. I have been anti Melissa and Kathy for a while and think they definitely came on this show to steal some spotlight and expose Ter’s faults, but everyone came off terribly on this reunion. I hate Ter and I hated her even more after just part 1 of the bile. I will say though, I have to respect her strength to sit up there and hold her own (even though it is usually nonsensical or venomous) against a whole room of family and ex-friends coming at you and only you on EVERY topic. I would cry or leave after an hour of that. Great work CB!
@sarcasatire (#26) Good point! There’s even a famous movie quote:
It’s not “show friends.” It’s show business.
@MrsMiaWallace (#55) “The gasm is protective of our recappers”
Good. Because Jackie that’s batshit crazy from Basketball
JumpoffsWives LA has started following @Madelyne27. So I’d say it’s time to send the muscle over to her house. She might need body guards even worse than the Honey Bubu family does.@ChickBomb You always make me ROLF even though you
are wrongdisagree with me about letting people get a lap band operation just so they can still look short and stubby even when they put a leather dress and 7 pairs of Spanx on.I was waiting till we got closer to Part 2 before reading this entry. I agree, Tree got off too easy, but whatever. It’s still fun to read all these recaps. One thing I noticed while watching Part 1, for the second or third time, is that the whole thing was incredibly edited. If you pay attention to the starts and stops of our HoWives’ sentences, it becomes very obvious. I mean, I know Bravo edits the hell out of pretty much everything it touches, but this editing seemed extra heavy even for Bravo.
I’ve gotta go get drunk or high or something, so I don’t try to dive through the tv screen and beat the tar out of the Beautiful Shiny yet Leathery Teresa tonight. After I’m primed, let the fireworks begin! BTW we’ve seen Tree go apeshit before, and it looks like we’re about to see Rosie go apeshit, so why not let them go apeshit together? Tree is truly and animal, but I still think Rosie could take her down if she was pissed off enough.
@fancyface, I certainly wasn’t on a Soapbox, if that’s what you’re trying to intimate, I was merely pointing out the very obvious difference between a summary and a recap. So, you’re welcome.
I totally agree about the editing MsMiaWallace, one instance was when Kathy said she came to the book signing to support Teresa and all of a sudden Teresa is calling her disgusting and garbage. It was like going from 0 to 60 in an instant and I feel like there had to be more to that discussion. It was so choppy
*pouring a glass of wine in anticipation of part 2*
Dayum. Looks like the RHONJ are rubbing off on the Gasmi judging by the level of snark…
Let’s all just agree to disagree without the insults, shall we? Because really, what separates us from the animals (or, in this case, the RHONJ) is our ability to act civilized during a “disagreement”
Carry on….
Unbelievable
If memory serves me, Tre was calling Kathy names even before Kathy called her mom a liar. And if Tre wasn’t the one lying about her mom saying Kathy and Richie almost divorced, and it isn’t true, then Mrs. G is a liar.
Season 1 & 2 were so enjoyable to watch. Mainly because of lovable ditzy Tre. And their ratings were through the roof. I’m thinking it’s just possible that Bravo brought Melissa and Joe on board hoping for the the same ditzy lightheartedness of those first two seasons. Let’s face it, the Gorgas are all characters, with a capital C. And although Joe Gorga may have made me cringe once in a while, I did laugh at him, similar to how I laughed at Tre the first two seasons.
@Chickbomb, thank you for the hard work you put in. It can’t be easy to recap these shitshows never mind deal with the comment rage. I respectfully disagree with you on the personal/commercial bankruptcy front. A business can go belly up for a number of reasons…especially if it’s a small start up or, sales aren’t coming in.
At the end of the day if you’re in the red for a sustained period the business is going to have to fold and YES as a member of the finance industry I can vouch that busineses get forced into bankruptcy all the time. There are tax codes none of which I feel like looking up mostly b/c I am cross eyed from these lengthy posts. But hey, this is your recap so, say what you gotta say!
I cosign the cosign starting with Comment #9 and all who cosigned there after. I am team shut this franchise down. Especially after last night but, I digress.
No one was looking particularly stellar in my eyes. A few things to remeber:
*This is just a show
*Everyone has a right to their opinion
*If you don’t like it, don’t read it but for crying out loud don’t tell someone they can’t have their opinion then ram yours down everyone’s throat.
*And I agree calling out a recappers skill over another’s on their own recap is out of line.
@Gypsy, what you said.
Well, I can’t agree or disagree with the first two paragraphs because you lost me at “a business….”
@SSC…I know, I apologize! I got all IRL this is what happens.
In conclusion…I will never do it again! ;-D
@lab #34 I think that’s more Asperberger’s Syndrome but you’re on the right spectrum…
I too read Jac was WASTED at the time of last year’s reunion.
Thanks Gypsy for the clarification.
@Gypsy: I read that the reason the Laurita business is in bankruptcy is because Chris and his brothers have been embezzeling from the company. They stole money and used it to fund their lifestyles. As a matter of fact, one of the creditors in the dispute is a charity. They stole money from a charity! or they raised the funds and never gave them the money..either way, that is way shadier than personal bankruptcy imo, because it isn’t Chris Laurita’s money to play around with..it belongs to the clients who trusted him to promote their products.
So, I think Jaq is really ridiculous to look down on Tre’s bankruptcy when her husband got them in as big as a pickle. Sure, their personal property may be protected if Chris’ company is incorporated, but it seems no one is going after the Guidice’s personal property anymore either. (Although I suspect Juicy Joe liquidated several companies or gave up his rental properties because no way in hell an $11 million debt just goes away. yet, it seems it has. There hasn’t been a peep in over a year, from lawyers, court documents,….nada. They still have their house(s), cars, and Teresa has a new bag every episode.
Just before I hit post..I did a google search for some more info:
“The adversary proceeding states the Laurita Defendants used over $7 million of the company’s funds for their own personal use – vacations, cars (Ashlee’s SUVs), credit cards, etc. It’s called a ‘bleed out.’ The bankruptcy trustee’s responsibility is to protect the bankruptcy estate and to get the legitimate creditors of the company paid (even though it may not be 100% but something). The personal assets of the Laurita Defendants will have to be sold and the proceeds paid to the bankruptcy estate to enable the legitimate creditors to be paid something. The Lauritas committed bankruptcy fraud – a federal crime. If prosecuted, prison time and fines.”
Oops! Guess they are in even more hot water than the Giudices. Think next season Juicy Joe is gonna go on camera and say , “I offered to buy their stuff i it ever went to auction..” haha!
Juicy Joe should be in prison next year Sarc. He won’t have a pot to piss in.
If you caught Jackie in epi 1 of reunion she clarified and said they never used private jets for personal use when discussing their bankruptcy. Not sure what she meant by that. Wonder why it’s not plastered all over the tabloids and such like Teresa’s? Not all charities are up to snuff either.
I also wondered why Jac had to co-sign the loan for Ashley’s car. Was it because she is her daughter or because Chris’ credit was in the tank? I do recall Jac claimed she didn’t want to give her a car. Also she flew to California/Texas/Vegas etc. What happened to the car?
@lab: The article I read said that the Lauritas used private jets, limos, bought houses, etc with embezzled company funds. It even said that Ashlee’s car was bought with company funds. Could be why Jacqui was named in the lawsuit even though she doesn’t work for the company (Chris made her sign for it!).
I think that Jacqui’s boringness is enough that her scandals aren’t even front page worthy. It has made the tabloids and plenty of sites have written about it, but it’s different from Teresa who is the most well known from the franchise and gets cover stories. (Even Jaq’s son’s autism story was a blurb on the cover. Her unknown husband’s dealings is probably not US mag worthy. )
So, what charity is named in the lawsuit? Do you think this could possibly be the catalyst to the fight between Dina and Caroline? Doesn’t Dina have a charity? Could it be that Caro’s boys were involved in stiffing Dina’s charity out of funds? I could be way off base so someone help me out here….
Maybe they thought Dina was “on board” with using her charity to launder funds but nobody told Dina or Dina wasn’t so keen on the idea.
OK – now I sound like a soap opera – LOL!
@Mimo (#62)It was the opposite. Remember the 1st reunion? When Danielle said that about Tre not going to recognize her nephew. And Tre threw a huge hissy fit. And the next day the internet started blowing up. With people talking about how Tre didn’t get along with her sister in law.
Plus Melissa’s career as a bikini dancer or whatever it was. (Which wasn’t ever the big secret the story line department made out like it was)
Next thing you know Bravo says Melissa’ll be on season 2. Which also ended up being another 1 of those fusses that don’t make sense. With Tre saying Melissa and Kathy didn’t tell her when they signed up. And she had to find it out on the news or something. But then also that she got them on the show.
Anyway, Danielle wasn’t coming back. So they needed somebody to be the drama conflict character. Which was guaranteed with Melissa. Kathy I don’t know why they wanted. Maybe she got thrown in as a gift with purchase.
@sarcasatire and @labowner (#68 and #69) I read something the other day about that court hearing he’s been supposed to have since forever got postponed again. They said it was for undisclosed reasons.
Somebody that knows’ll have to tell us if they usually do disclose reasons. Or if the news story just said it like that
as code to remind us that the lot of them’s supposedly been mobbed up since back before the 1st Tiny Manzo’s timefor effect.I’m not sure the name of the charity..I will try and locate the site again. Another site, gives us the full scoop, documents and everything! Gypsy, we may need you to translate…mah head is spinning!
http://fauxreality.wordpress.com/2012/10/04/coming-soon-signature-apparel-bankruptcy-leads-to-the-filing-of-complaint-for-fraudulently-diverting-over-7000000-against-chris-jacqueline-laurita-joseph-adeline-laurita-and-anthony/
Looks like Susan G. Komen is one of the charities – WOW! Personal bankruptcy or not, there are sure to be criminal charges stemming from this lawsuit. Fraud and Embezzlement? Methinks someone is in a little bit of trouble. Maybe that’s why Jaq hasn’t committed to next year?
@ 71 BitchyLady– I think the Ladybug Charity (kids with cancer) is one that all the Laurita sisters are involved with but Dina runs it. The big brew-ha-ha could be about the Brownstone– Al, Sr. and Tommy ( Dina’s husband) are the owners–am sure there is alot of crazy going on there.
I have always had the impression with Cowaline ( damn-love that) is difficult to get along with so she is generally on the outs with a sibling (or 4). I think the Dina/Cow fight started and Tre jumped to Dina’s side and its has rolled into the Cow and Tre fight with Dina going to Tre’s side over Cow’s.
SKG should be shut down for fraud. And after the Planned Parenthood flap and watching Pink Ribbons Inc, I don’t care how much they are owed.
So far most of the other companies are nothing but shell corporations and/or have something to do with each other (Studio IP Holding and Artful Holdings seem to be owned by the same folks) http://dockets.justia.com/search?q=Studio+IP+Holdings+LLC
Harvest Way sells cheaply made crap from Asia with a sketchy website. Not sure the connection to Roc Wear.
Talful another foreign company with no website. Interesting as one site says they export to NY/NJ another site says the export to Los Angeles via Hong Kong. Both sites show their sales tanking since 2008.
Gift Tex is either a trade show (Japan) or a B2B facilitator (india) or a trading company (Dubai) or all three.
Hitch & Trail, Inc. No website just a business with an address in NYC.
Putnam Leasing – car related.
Odd that UPS allowed them to get their bill so high. They wanted to cut off our office for a $14 past due bill which was a mistake on their end. I am amazed how these things happen.
Daiwha is an Apple premium reseller?
Ikon Financial, Fed Express, American Express, and Citi we all know.
Funny thing is not once was the bankruptcy with Roc Wear brought up when I googled these companies. Also when I googled Daihwa Laurita Bankruptcy not one legitimate website was displayed. I mean a real website, not one devoted to the housewives franchise.
Not sure what to make of this as most of the companies really don’t exist (notice they are the largest ahem creditors) and the rest amount to approximately half million.
Take this as you may.
The link is blocked but I can surmise a little bit. These businesses are, or seem to be shells or start ups that require what is called Angel Investors (those who invest typically under 50k). As you move up the J curve in building a business the types of investors you recruit become more substantial. Eash investing more and more money.
Until you reach a certain point in your business venture there is typically a period of time that you spend (anywehere from 2-7 years) in the red aka not making any income. If you investors run out of money or start pulling out durint that intital period, you eventually have to fold the business.
There can also be what is called a (hostile) takeover of a weaker business by a stronger one. If the weaker business chooses to fight the buyout they can go into [forced] bankruptcy where there are several court required progress reports if you will, that need to be delivered with in certain periods of time. For example: 120 days till report 180 till report 2.
Without getting into the weeds too much more there are two likely outcomes:
1. The company fighting to stay afloat goes into bankruptcy, repairs what is wrong with the business and reemerges with a more sustainable business model. Think: Kmart
2. The company is so far in the hole that all investors want to take the loss b/c the business is deemed an utter failure and it’s better from a tax standpoint to take the hit as a write off or bankruptcy. Think of a dotcom that failed in the late 90′s.
Riveting I know…
In any event it’s all very complicated with many court ordered rules. But, because this is a free market society, the lawyers are paid to use stall tactics etc., to their advantage.
Without looking further into the specifics I cannot comment definitively on who what when and where or if any wrong doing has occured. (which we can all assume there was some)
Hope that clarifies the definitions a little better for you all.
PS- I also just typed a lengthy response on the embezzelment charges…but my computer just had a moment and I lost it all. ARRRRRRRRRRGH!
Long and short of it is, I never really thought either party was innocent but I did want to point out the fact that a corporation can be foreced into bankruptcy and reemmerge better for it: Kmart.
Be it either Personal or Commercial Bankruptcy you will have unethical people working the system to get out of paying for their unethical (business or personal) actions.
I guess I always though everyone was seedy. Even Albert and Tommy at the Brownstone…if they are 50/50 partners there is NO reason I can see that Albert needs to be there 7 days a week.
Yes – SGK doesn’t have the cleanest reputation as charity and I stopped supporting them long before the Planned Parenthood debacle. My WOW was more directed at the criminal charges which will almost certainly stem from this bankruptcy once it’s over. I’m sure they’ll delay discovery as long as possible. If I was in their shoes I certainly would. But, I’m not a criminal so……