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Thursday, July 20, 2006
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After last week’s dreadful tour of Spain, I was most thrilled to see that The Real World: Key West rebounded mightily this week with an episode full of petty bickering, teary-eyed confessions, idiotic comments, and of course, an Olympic athlete. Even Jose, yes, Jose, played a role in the story. It was really all we could ask for. The only thing missing was Paula getting wasted, biting someone’s arm, and shouting “KISS MY ASS!!!” But that’s okay because Tyler and Janelle more than made up for Ms. Walnuts with their hilarious, infuriating, and puzzling ridiculousness. I swear, it took me over an hour to get through this episode. There were so many great, delusional quotes — I had to write them all down. Plus, how could you not love the pure rush of watching John and Jose completely call Tyler out for all his bullshit? It was the perfect antidote to the Barcelona Blues.This week’s episode kicked off with grim reminders of that pesky lil’ storm called Hurricane Wilma. We saw the Key West community quietly rebuilding, clearing out rubble, and moving on with life. And that was the end of that. Consider every aspect of Key West from this point on rebuilt and glorious.
We then saw the roommates ambling over to the ol’ tanning salon where prodigal owner Ricky had returned to clean some windows. This was nice and all, but wasn’t the place closed? Did I miss something? Clearly some integral piece of information was chopped off by my Tivo last week. Well, the business was certainly alive, and the only thing that could make this moment more joyous was the presence of Zach’s parents who just happened to be hanging around. And yes, they were totally what you’d expect. Mom was wearing tie-dye, sporting giant hair; Dad was wearing an old t-shirt, sporting a reformed hipppie beard. They were awesome, and I totally understood where Zach’s thoughtful yet banal ramblings came from.
I wasn’t the only one who liked Mr. and Mrs. Zach. Tyler chatted them up about who knows what (perhaps his burgeoning skill as a painter?). I was shocked that he hadn’t called Zach’s mom a low-life bitch yet. Did he leave his bitchiness in Spain or something? Oh, and for all you wondering — the Zach family parade didn’t end with just Mom and Dad. Sister Zoey was hanging around too. Huzzah! Group picture!
Amidst his babbling, Tyler mentioned to the Zachs that on Friday night, they’d be holding a cocktail event at the salon with Olympian Amanda Beard. Wait, THE Amanda Beard??? Looks like someone finally outclassed TVgasm’s meet-and-greet with 2004 Rhythmic Gymnastics gold medalist Alina Kabaeva. Damn, and we were going to hold that at a florist too.
Anyway, we knew Tyler was going to go nuts over Amanda Beard’s appearance because as he mentioned last week, he just LOVES the Olympics — and the Olympic Spirit! That’s why he’s always awarding himself medals in his mind. But if the lure of A-Beard wasn’t enough, Tyler also proudly noted that the gang was “debuting Speedo’s new Accelerate line and their new online store.” What a wonderful occasion. And well shilled!
Now, if you think all this Beard and Speedo nonsense is, well, nonsense, then think again. This cocktail party represented the last glimmer of hope for the tanning salon. After the two hurricanes (not to mention an ill-fated entrepreneurial concept), the business was on its last legs. The roommates needed a surge of customers to attend the event. Luckily, if there’s one thing we know about Amanda Beard, it’s that she draws in the masses.
Suddenly, the music became all grim as we saw Paula and Svetlana driving off to the house. Something bad was about to happen, and I couldn’t wait. Sure enough, after the girls had arrived home, Tyler called up from the salon and snipped, “You guys were supposed to bring me home with you.” Since when did this ever stop him? Wasn’t Tyler the one who hopped in a cab one night and rode home while all the roommates hung around downtown, waiting for him to show up? Nevertheless, I could understand his pain. Nothing smarts more when people forget to pick you up. Especially when it’s raining and you’re holding a wilted flower and sad violins are playing. But enough about my childhood. Rimshot!
With new ammunition to bitch and moan about something, Tyler complained, “I was left at work by Paula and Svetlana.” Yes, his pressing schedule of painting and being proud of himself had been RUINED! To be fair, he did mention that he needed to get home so he could hop on the internet and do some junk for Speedo, but I think that was just his way of saying he wanted to masturbate.
Anyway, Paula and Svetty jumped back in the car and drove off to the salon, and en route, Paula commented, “This Amanda Beard thing might not be too successful.” Find more observations like these in Paula’s new book, The Sky Is Blue, or How I Learned to State the Obvious and Love It. You can find it under the imprint, KISS MY ASS!
Well, just when things couldn’t get any worse for Tyler’s vehicular prospects, Paula and Svetty hit massive traffic in the heart of Key West. The bitchiness would know no bounds! Sure enough, when the girls finally arrived, he snipped, “It’s annoying if you’re waiting around, and then you guys are late.” He then handed Paula a letter that read, “You should have stayed on Main Street, you low-life BITCH!” It was very odd.
Okay, okay. Tyler didn’t hand Paula a letter, but he did eagerly take the keys away from her and sashay to car. Back in the salon, Paula informed Zach that no one had even told her that Tyler was supposed to go home with him. Honestly, whoever was coordinating all this could KISS HER ASS! KISS HER GODDAMN, SUV-DRIVING ASS!!!”
Outside, someone tried to explain the misunderstanding to Tyler, but he entered full prissy diva mode, saying, “I don’t want to hear it. It’s just always an excuse!” He then took the driver’s seat and was so pissed about being late that he said he was going to leave without Zach. Never mind that Zach was kissing his parents goodbye. Apparently it’s a crime against humanity to leave without Tyler, but if Tyler wants to leave without Zach, that’s his prerogative, dammit!
Luckily, Zach managed to lumber out into the parking lot just when Tyler was about to peel out. As he stepped into the car, Ty-Ty explained, “I am so stressed out about bringing down Amanda Beard.” Well, she is a HUGE star. It’s understandable. And by the way, when Tyler said “bringing down Amanda Beard,” he meant that literally. He has a whole Burn Book tome devoted to her. He’s gonna bring her DOWN!
Tyler then ranted, “This is why I’m annoyed. I woke up early to take care of that stuff. Those dumbasses left without me. It’s frustrating when people are just so inconsiderate.” Okay, he’s right. It is frustrating. Luckily, Tyler never does anything inconsiderate. Ever. And I’m sure he won’t do anything inconsiderate later this episode either!
To his credit, Tyler did honk at some old ladies riding their bikes in the middle of his lane. Props to that. I hate dumb cyclists. And I really don’t think I’d have the tolerance for old lady cyclists in Florida. Who did they think they were, BLANCHE ARMSTRONG??
Well, just when there couldn’t be any more shenanigans with this damn car, Jose revealed to us what was possibly the most complicated ride-sharing schedule in Real World history. Honestly, it made The Brothers Karamazov look like See Spot Run. Okay, maybe not that complex. Nevertheless, Jose explained that Tyler would be going out to dinner downtown, and then Zach would be bringing the car back downtown (I guess the implication was that someone would drop Tyler off downtown and then bring the car back to the house in the interim?). Anyway, Zach would have dinner with his parents, and then Tyler was gonna grab the car, pick up Jose at the gym and then the two would return home. Get it? Don’t worry, it’ll make sense soon.
We then cut to 8:30 PM that night as Jose pumped iron in his decrepit, dingy gym. How that place survived Wilma was beyond me. Forty-five minutes later, we found John ushering the roommates out of the house and into the SUV. Turns out they were all going out to dinner with Zach’s parents. The only people who wouldn’t be joining were Tyler and Jose (as you might remember, Tyler was going to get the keys, pick up Jose, and the two would return home). Oh, and by the way, everyone was supposed to be at dinner at like 9 PM.
Did I mention that I was already loving this? For some reason, watching logistical nightmares is the best thing ever for me.
We then headed back over to the gym where at 9:20 PM poor Jose was done with his workout and standing alone, waiting for Tyler to pick him up. He had that sad, confused look on his face — kind of like when you’re a kid and you miss the bus going home from school; so your mom has to pick you up instead.
Over in downtown, all the roomies finally arrived at the restaurant where they met up with Zach’s family and Tyler. Oh, and guess what? Tyler announced he was going to join for dinner now too. But… what about Jose? John asked Tyler if he was still gonna fetch their wayward roommate, and instead of springing to action, Tyler suggested that they call the gym and let Jose know what the new plan was. After all, it had now been a half an hour since Tyler was supposed to pick him up. The statute of limitations on Tyler’s responsibility had clearly expired. Sorry, Jose. Enjoy your walk home!
Well, John started to get pretty annoyed with Tyler, causing Tyler to snip, “Don’t speak to me like that!” How could John forget that Tyler was the only person who was allowed to be snippy and rude? What a jerk. Nevertheless, everyone could see through Tyler’s hemming and hawing, and rather than argue about it, John simply got up in a huff and volunteered to pick up Jose. “I don’t want to inconvenience you, bro,” he said as he walked out. Score a point for John. Very nice passive-aggression!
“I should tell Martin about this…”
At this point, I did feel badly for John. He was doing the more mature thing — taking on Tyler’s responsibility (shocking since Tyler had been so outspoken about people being inconsiderate). Unfortunately, Johnny Bananas was now missing out on a free meal that surely was much nicer than the usual fare he was stuck with. Plus, it just sucked because his plans were now shot. John then noted that if he were left at the gym and some inconsiderate person (hint: TYLER) didn’t want to get him, he’d expect Zach or Jose to do the same thing. The bad news was that even though this was a noble gesture on John’s part, by the time he arrived at the gym, Jose was nowhere to be found. Somebody call CSI: Miami!
Oh wait. Jose wasn’t missing. He had simply left. The poor guy was walking home in the middle of the dark. Luckily, John, who was now livid at Tyler, found him by the side of the road was able to drive him the rest of the distance home. When Jose found out that Tyler didn’t want to pick him up, he was shocked. “Tyler played me! I’m supposed to be his boy!” Jose said. We then cut back to Tyler at the restaurant, enjoying the meal that was surely meant for John. “Oh my god! I’ve never had a dessert like this!” Tyler exclaimed as he dug into a rich pastry. Oh how I wanted to smack him upside the head. You know, if it had been Svetlana who was in Tyler’s shoes, he would never have let her hear the end of it. I mean, he would have harangued her. Besides, Tyler spent all this time complaining about all the work he had to do for Amanda Beard, and yet, he happily managed to find time to shirk responsibility and indulge in a free meal. He really disgusts me.
After the commercial break, we found Johnny Bananas venting to Zach, who in turn was apologizing for no real reason. John explained that he’d invested all this time into creating a friendship that now was just worthless. It was a pretty harsh statement. Tyler is a self-involved douchebag, but was it really necessary to throw out a whole relationship based on this event? Okay, yeah. It was. I LOVE strife!
Taking a more level-headed approach to the mixup was Jose (of course), who sat Tyler down and asked for an explanation. Ty-Ty said that the roommates showed up forty minutes late to the restaurant and then for some strange reason they were putting it all on him to find Jose. What was that about? Just because Tyler said he was going to pick up Jose didn’t mean that he was actually supposed to! For goodness sake, people, he had AMANDA BEARD to worry about (after a free dinner).
Anyway, Jose ultimately said that he was surprised that Tyler didn’t show the initiative to come find him wandering the streets like a vagabond. “I feel really, really guilty because Jose isn’t mad at me. He’s disappointed,” Tyler told us. He then left a note on Jose’s bed that said “You should have stayed at the gym, you low-life BITCH!!!”
The show then randomly shifted gears to focus on Svetlana who was — you guessed it — on the phone, babbling to Martin about whatever. She mentioned that Janelle wouldn’t talk to her anymore thanks to that whole “low-life” situation with Svetty’s mom. Keep in mind that Janelle was totally complicity in the Burn Book, but again, we must always remember that thou shalt not talk shit about the two people who talk the most shit.
Sadly, Svetlana felt that she had to apologize to Janelle. She told Martin, “I learned a lot from her. She’s like so mature, Martin, you like can’t argue with her… When she talks, she, like, listens really well.” Huh? Where did this come fromt? To be fair, listening skills are integral to a prosperous career in Personal Relations.
Anyway, Svetlana pulled Janelle aside to have The Talk. After some general groveling and apologies on Svetty’s part, Janelle replied, “The good thing is that you feel like you are able to approach me. That’s important to me because I can’t extend myself any further than the next person.” Hmmm… I didn’t quite hear an apology in there. You know, something like “I’m sorry for jumping to conclusions.” Janelle’s haughtiness laughably continued as she to us, “She can acknowledge that everything that I’ve done thus far to her has been for a certain reason. Her realizing that and sitting down, it’s good to know that we can grow as friends from this experience.” WELL. I think Svetlana should not only apologize to Janelle but thank her too. It’s about time she realized that Janelle’s condescending, evil behavior was for her own betterment!
In the coup de grace, Janelle then told Svetlana, and I kid you not, “When it comes to friendships… like I’m so genuine with all my friendships. Like, I’m so real.” Anyone else rolling on the floor with laughter?
We then cut to random butterflies flittering around the island, and then it was back to the house where Tyler was busy chopping vegetables. Like any good fag hag would, Janelle reported her entire conversation with Svetty to Tyler, but here’s a shocker: she didn’t laugh it off or roll her eyes. She actually said it was a good convo. Oh, this would surely peeve Tyler! Janelle then told us she was hoping that her conversation would maybe cause Tyler to rethink his relationship with Svetlana. Dare I say it, but that almost sounded nice. It was like Janelle was being a real friend! Mending fences: she really is a Personal Relations wunderkind.
A few moments later, we then saw one of the more awkward kitchen scenes of the season: Tyler, John, and Svetlana all milling around silently, quiet rage seething amongst them. The tension was finally broken when Tyler announced that he was leaving, causing John to point at Tyler’s mess and snap, “So you’re just going to leave? You’re going to leave this like this?” I so wished John was wearing a big night gown and curlers in his hair.
Well! No one addresses Tyler that way! He snipped back, “Do you not see that I’m baking for an event that you’re not helping for?” An event with AMANDA BEARD no less! John shot back that Tyler never lets anyone help anyway; that way, when it’s all over, Tyler can always take sole credit. Ouch! Burn-Book-rrific!
Tyler refuted the comments and tried to defend himself, but John was simply inconsolable (plus, he was holding a giant knife). “I don’t want to hear your voice right now,” John seethed. After several weeks of Tyler’s bullshit, it was truly wonderful to finally hear someone stand up to him and put him in his place. Oh, and it got better!
“You are the most inconsiderate piece of shit I’ve ever met in my life; so don’t tell me about being rude,” John ranted. Cut to me clapping eagerly on my couch. Realizing that John was right, Tyler had to rely on his favorite tactic: belittling John’s complaints with patronizing confusion:
“John, what are you angry about?” Tyler asked. “I need you to streamline what you’re angry about.” Alas, John was not about to streamline shit. He simply told Tyler again that he just did not want to talk, causing Tyler to laughably condescend, “I want you to leave your bad attitude at home, and if you choose to come to the event, like come and have fun with us. We’d like you to come.” Yeah John. Don’t bring your stinkin’ thinkin’. You’ll ruin the Amanda Beard experience!
Well, at this point, John was so riled up that anything Tyler said was just going to cause him to flip out. Sure enough, John yelled, “Since when do you own fucking Mystic Tan? Since when can you tell me where I can go, where I can’t go?” It was a bit ridiculous, but I loved it nonetheless.
Tyler merely huffed in response, “I have bigger issues to deal with.” LIKE AMANDA BEARD!!!! Does not one person appreciate how important she is???
Amusingly, Tyler then said, “I have an Olympian coming, and I’m not here to deal with this childish B.S.” By the way, that’s totally going to be my new way of getting out of arguments. If people start up with me, I’m just going to put my hands up and say, “I’m sorry. I have an Olympian coming. I’m not going to deal with your childish B.S.. Olympian, people!”
After the commercial break, Tyler, Zach, Janelle, and Svetlana headed to the tanning salon, and guess who was already there? The one and only Amanda Beard! (Insert fanfare here). If you had answered “the masses”, you would be incorrect because no one — absolutely no one — was waiting around to meet the Olympian. Turns out Tyler had committed a scheduling snafu, which meant people wouldn’t be arriving until 5:30ish — a.k.a. a few hours from then. Of course, those people would only be coming if they happened to hear the announcement at the local high school and community college — because that was the only marketing power Tyler put into this. That’s right. He didn’t invite anyone. He merely had the local college and high school make an announcement. C’mon, Tyler! Amanda Beard deserves better than that! I guess he just imagined the hoards of paparazzi following her around would automatically attract the crowds.
She not only recycles men, but snack trays too!
Well, the event was a major disaster, and even Janelle, the resident Personal Relations director, was upset. Truth is that while I give her shit for the whole “Personal Relations” thing, I’m sure she probably could have drummed up at least some minor interest. However, Tyler opted not to have a true marketing campaign — even if it was basic and amateurish — and as a result, only eight people came by to meet Amanda. So much for saving the salon!
Afterwards, Tyler and some of the roommates hung out, and Jose randomly said, “Tyler, can I tell you something right now? You have been very diva these past couple days.” Well, this was absolutely SHOCKING to Tyler, who flared his eyes in surprise. Him?? A diva??? Clearly not, as evidenced by his un-diva-like eye flare! Nevertheless, Jose explained to Tyler why John had been so mad, but ultimately, we learned that really it was John’s fault that Tyler was such a diva because apparently John reminds Tyler of his family, and when John acts in a certain way, it takes Tyler back to certain times in his family’s history. So really, it was John who should apologize to Tyler.
“It reminds me of every time someone else lashed out at me and my life,” Tyler explained. Hey Tyler, ever hear of a self-fulfilling prophecy? Maybe people will stop lashing out at you if you stop acting like a prissy bitch. Just a suggestion.
The next day, despite the utter failure of the Amanda Beard event, Ricky called the kids at the salon and announced some great news: the good people from the Ford Motor Company (smile at the camera like the Orbit gum woman) had given them a brand new Mercury to replace the one ruined in the hurricane. I suppose this was a wonderful thing, but honestly, I kind of loved all the conflict that arose from having just one car. C’mon, producers. Push that thing over a dock. We want more fighting!
Later that night, John and Tyler finally had their big talk. I was hoping that Tyler would apologize to John for being inconsiderate the other night with the car, but instead, he just said, “I’m very tender about the way people speak to me.” Kind of odd considering how rudely, condescendingly, brashly, and obnoxiously Tyler seems to treat everyone around him. Nevertheless, Tyler said all this stuff about being accepted and how John reminded him of his brother and how now he wanted to start up a relationship with his brother for the first time. Big time blah blah blah. All I knew was that I didn’t hear any shred of contrition. Granted, we were seeing an edited conversation, but it didn’t seem at all like Tyler was addressing anything that may have made John upset. He was merely addressing what was making himself upset.
Sadly, John fell for Tyler’s crap and said, “the reason I got so mad is because I care about you so much.” Booo! Cop out! He then told us, “I don’t think Tyler needs any more negativity in his life.” No, Tyler doesn’t need anymore negativity, but he’ll gladly spread it everywhere else (except to Amanda Beard, of course).
Ultimately, the two guys wound up on good terms again, which I suppose was nice for them, but I still felt like Tyler truly hadn’t learned anything from the situation. He merely used the discussion as a fancy way to say, “It’s not my fault. It’s yours.” What did you think? Did Tyler learn his lesson?
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tyler seems to be fighting with all his roommates, except for janelle.
well i hope they have an episode for that cuz two divas against each other just makes such an explosive episode.
tyler, “i am red god!”
janelle, “bitch please, im half-black and half-white!”
Ah Bside, I was absolutely *praying* you would screencap Svetlana’s reaction to the dinner fiasco. For some reason, that clip had me rolling on the floor the other night. I thought it really summed up the situation, actually. No words needed there.
Hilarious recap, as always. I love all the references to The Note. Oh, and Kabaeva?! I am jealous! (Seriously, I am not being sarcastic… Kabaeva is fantastic
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I felt so bad for poor Amanda Beard. I mean, I have followed gymnastics since I could walk but I am not dumb- 90% of Olympic sports get almost no notoriety for the rest of the quad (and, let’s face it, some get no notoriety during the games either :p). When you are dealing with “Olympians” and publicity, you have to promote the crap out of it to get any attention at all. He should have known better, silly goose. If I was him, I would have been absolutely mortified! He is a swimmer, I’d imagine she is a hero of his. He didn’t really seem all that bothered by it though, did you find? Janelle was pretty freaked out (as the resident Personal Relations director, it reflects rather badly upon her) but Tyler seemed, well, kind of oblivious actually.
b-side,
what happened was, in a lame attempt to create some suspense among the roomies, ricky told them over the phone that the mystic tan would be closing…..
then, in a lame attempt to create suspense among the viewers the producers ended the episode with “to be continued”….
so cut to last week’s epi when ricky finishes his sentence by saying that the store is closing so that they can go to spain.
sneaky producers >:-)
Tyler is such an idiot. I’ve basically said every negative thing about him that I could in the last posts. His problem is really taking responsibility for his own bitchiness. He can never admit when he’s wrong, or when he says the wrong thing to people. He just always has to cop out, and use the emotional issues angle. Guess what, buddy? You’re 23 years old! I understand that certain traumatic things that happen to us will always affect us. But that is no reason for you to yell and bitch at people, and then later blame your “emotional scars” for it every single time. How about seeing another therapist? Because obviously that last therapist didn’t do too good of a job with you. And if I were Amanda Beard, I’d be insulted. there were literally about 8 people who showed up at that event. Tyler definitely should have done some better advertising on that event. Especially for someone who claimed to be so “busy with the event”. Jackass. I was so glad that John & Jose stood up to him and called him out on his bullshit.
Also, I think Janelle was being sincere with Svetlana. I mean, she may have some bitchy tendencies, but it’s nowhere near Tyler territory. It was also nice that she was trying to get Tyler & Svetlana to get along. Although, later, he’ll probably explain to Svetlana with “tears” in his eyes how she reminds him of a cousin he has that he doesn’t get along with, and when they fight “it takes him back to that angry place with her”. He’s so full of shit.
“BLANCHE ARMSTRONG”
i’m hungover and at the giddy stage right now (at work, naturally) and that just made me laugh out loud at my desk
I can’t figure out if Tyler has Narcissistic Personality Disorder, or if his self-righteous behavior is one ginormous cover-up for his insecurity. I almost think the latter, because if he was this much of an asshole for real, he’d be a borderline sociopath. (A borderline sociopath who makes for good TV, but a sociopath nonetheless.)
Anyone notices the next episode where even Janelle’s boyfriend can’t stand her.
Okay, Tyler is an asshole and we all know it. But so is almost everyone else in that house. Zach and Jose are the only ones who are consistently mature and thoughtful. And let’s not forget editing. We see only 1/10th of what goes on (if that much) and it’s always edited for the most drama as babeblue so succinctly pointed out in comment #3.
And this was mentioned before on the other recap but here goes: If Jose was supposed to be picked up at 9:00 and the other roommates didn’t leave the house until 9:15, why didn’t they swing by and pick up Jose? Then he could have gotten a free meal from Zach’s parents too. Sure Tyler was a jerk for staying in the restaurant and not picking up Jose but how responsible and considerate was it that the rest of them got to the restaurant at 9:40?
By the way, B-Side, Svetlana’s apology to Janelle makes sense if you believe the article that said the whole episode with the phone call to Mom was about Svetlana talking trash about Tyler and Janelle and then being called on it. Of course, Tyler and Janelle have no right to get mad if someone talks trash about them when they talk trash about the others but this cast loves to do the whole kettle and pot thing. Come to think of it, so does every cast of the Real World! I guess that’s why it’s such a tvgasm to watch them. Silly, silly people doing silly, silly things and then yelling at each other. What fun!!
Alligatorwings – I think I’ve met you on RottenTomatoes before.
Not sure though.
so my friends in NYC just happened to run into Johnny Bananas at none other than Ryan Cabreras Bday Bash Wed night…
“You should have stayed at the gym you LOW LIFE BITCH”
Hilarious! Can’t stop laughing.
I know I am the only tvgasm reader that loves Tyler. I admit he was being bratty this episode, but I agree with Zevonia that the other roommates could have picked up Jose since they left late. Plus Tyler was right when he said they should call the gym b/c Jose had probably already walked home (which he had).
I hate Johnny Bananas and the stupid frat boy world he represents. Everyone bashes Tyler for being a diva, but John’s total meltdown in the kitchen was shameful. He is such an inarticulate neanderthal. I am surprised he can even walk up-right.
Well, if I had just spent the evening at the gym, and I was dressed in gym clothes and was sweaty and stinky, I would not want to go out to dinner (at least not like this) lol. Tyler was supposed to take him *home* so I can see that as a reason the others didn’t go get him. Still, poor Jose just got screwed over
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Tyler is nothing but a whiny, hipocritical, superficial, annoying pre-madonna. I can’t wait till that little twerp goes on one of the challenges and gets teamed up with someone like Coral. These roomates of his have no juevos to step up and tell this guy what he is. He is an insecure, me against the world diva because I’m gay. I bet his major excuse is he can’t take people critisizing him and talking loudly to him because people always do because he is not socially accepted everywhere. This guy needs to stop the self pity and grow up. I’ll give John one juevo for yelling at him, but then I chopped that one in half for falling into tyler’s trap of self pity. Tyler really needs to get a life. Low-life scum!
Can you really blame anyone for forgetting Jose?
“Dude, you need to pick up Jose”…’
“Jose, who?”
Tyler sucks more than the Philly and Austin casts combined.
This episode totally made up for the boring episode last week. I hope next week’s good too with Janelle’s bf (or ex?) checking into a hotel. Hehe!!
-Firecat(#14); LoL! You’ve got a point. But I can’t give that benefit to Tyler because he didn’t seem to care when the Jose subject came up.
B-Side, awesome recap. I don’t know if I am just especially crazy today but I thought it was hilarious. I laughed at almost every paragraph!
I posted most of my diatribe against Tyler on the last episode’s comment section.
I still think Tyler is a despicable person. The bottom line is that TYLER made a committment to Jose, not the rest of the roommates. He chose dinner with Zach’s parents over picking Jose up, because he’s a shallow, social-climbing wannabee. Tyler aspires to the wealth and social-standing Zach’s family has. I think he also has a crush on Zach, and when he realized Zach’s parents were laid-back, rich hippies he wanted to insinuate himself into their good graces.
His complete lack of conscience, and his failure to accept ANY responsibilty for the consequences of his actions say volumes about who he really is. What bearing does his relationship with his brother have on anyone in the house? Why does he assume that other people are supposed to intuitively understand why he’s an asshole? Has he extended that same level of compassion and empathy to Svetlana or John? No. To paraphrase Freud – Sometimes an Asshole is just an Asshole.
Tyler is a Narcissist, and Narcissists and Sociopaths often go hand-in-hand. I don’t know if he’s a Sociopath, but I haven’t seen anything in his behavior indicating otherwise. Let me put it this way: If I found myself in a situation where I had to deal with Tyler (or anyone like him), I would do whatever I had to to get away from him. Tyler is Toxic. Tyler is about 1º away from Michael Alig, and I’m pretty sure the people who suffered as a result of knowing him could give a shit about how hard his childhood was.
BTW, alligatorwings – I died laughing at that Loveboat clip! That one was right on the money! LOL!
B-Side, “the perfect ANECDOTE to the Barcelona Blues”. Ummm, okay, guess that works? lol
OMG–great recap, B-Side! You picked up on stuff I’d completely missed!!!! It’s not MY fault though! hehe
Well, I think I kind of said it all on my lowly opinion of bitch queen Tyler. He gives gay men a bad name! It’s no wonder he’s single!
Cheez—glad you liked the Love Boat link on the other page–it had that “all eyes on me” oeuvre that Tyler seems to thrive on! I can imagine him snapping his fingers at some people talking in the corner and shouting, “Uh excuse me, but MS TYLER has entered the building!???”
He doesn’t mean to be rude and nasty, but he’s very tender about that, since his parents yelled at him when he was a kid. It also reminds him of his brother and makes him feel unincluded because he’s gay (insert close-up of big bar-queen eyes filled with crocodile tears)…LOL
I wonder if the Burn Book and getting ditched at Le Gym Ghetto made Svet and Jose feel bad? Wait..what am I thinking–that’s no relevant–I forgot–it’s all about Tyler! LOL
Hey GoldCrayon–I love http://www.rottentomatoes.com, but I’ve never posted over there! Just go there for the good movie review summaries!
Pre-madonna? (#13) Lol…I know we shouldn’t crack on another person’s comment, but that made me giggle. Anyway, great re-cap as usual, B-Side.
Babeblue: Thanks for clearing up the confusion about the salon. I missed the first segment of this episode and sat there for the rest of the time trying to figure out why they were open when I clearly remembered Ricky saying that they salon was closing.
Ok…this random, but I was looking at the sofa while Janelle and Svet were talking and noticed that it looked rather uncomfortable. I had the same thoughts about the bunk beds the cast of RW/RR Fresh Meat are made to sleep in. Maybe I’m spending way too much time paying attention to inconsequential details such as the comfort level of MTV sanctioned furniture, but those bunk bed mattresses look like they have absolutely no give.
Just a reminder–don’t miss the Real World Overdrive for this episode on mtv.com where you can watch Tyler NOT apologize and let Svet basically take responsibility for the whole “burn book”/phone conflict between them. Once again, he was really hurt by her behavior, so it’s entirely her fault, of course!
If you hate Tyler now, you’ll loathe him after watching this! Personally I think he made the producers add this so he wouldn’t look like such a self-centered bitch–but it achieves the exact opposite!
Thanks for the heads up about this, Fetita!
Here’s some excerpts from an interview with Tyler. Enjoy!
What did Tyler gain from The Real World? “The series was an opportunity for me to get to know myself, and to better understand the relationships that I’ve had in the past. It’s definitely not about Tyler going out to gay clubs and trying to get laid.”
How about the other roomies–the human kind–with whom he shared the Key West house? “We have a familial bond,” he states. “I don’t like all of them, but I love all of them. Two roommates that Tyler loves and likes are Paula and Jose. He explains, “Paula and I have dealt with similar issues in our lives, as have Jose and I. The three of us come from very different, but difficult, backgrounds. Having to rise above our difficulties in order to succeed underscores our friendship.” Tyler’s other four Real World housemates are Janelle, John, Svetlana, and Zach.
On a personal level, he hopes his real-life real world will include a partner and children. “I absolutely want to be a father!” he tells me. “I’ve always wanted to adopt a Chinese girl because they’re so unwanted in China.”
Gasmgrrl (#11),
I also thought Johnny Bananas was the cro-magnon frat boy type–who only thought in terms of ‘beer; boobies; vagina; food’–but as the season progresses, I’m being to think there’s a lot more to him. Who handles Paula Walnuts the best when she goes apeshit on him for no reason? Who comforts Paula/ Fritz after a verbal smack down has been laid upon them? Who’s the only one to confront Tyler about his reactionary/insanely vicious comments? Zach is sweet and loveable, but in the end what is the boy worth? Being low key and chill with everyone is awesome for awhile, but at some point, one has to grow a pair and stop playing bitch. Zach will never be that person and neither will Jose. The girls won’t say anything out of fear, so that really only leaves John to protect them from the juggernaut known as Tyrannical Tyler.
I don’t know what’s more frightening; Tyler as a parent, or Tyler as a parent to a girl. I can see the Baby Burn Book now -
Oh My God! My baby is so stupid, she actually thinks her Winnie the Pooh bear is REALLY talking! Ooooh – I HATE her!
I hate the Baby! She woke me up last night – while I was TRYING to hook-up online! Who the hell does she think she is? I need a little ME time. Bitch.
I forgot to feed the Baby today, but she’ll just have to understand that what really matters is that I’M hurting right now! Feeding the Baby just brings me to a really bad place; when I was six my brother ate my M&M’s! It really hurts!
Baby cried today, and I was all “Don’t cry at me like that, because I will NOT tolerate it!” Snap!
Wait I almost forgot…
You should have stayed in China you low-life Baby!
Love, Low-life Daddy
“the perfect ANECDOTE to the Barcelona Blues”… Oh B-Side, why did you have to go and remind me of my junior English teacher? She would always refer to anecdotes as antidotes, which is the word you should have used in that sentence. Sorry for nitpicking. It just takes me back to a bad place. Can’t you understand that?! I’M the victim here, biiitch!
God Tyler sucks. The one redeeming thing he has going for him is that he’s obviously quite intelligent, but that’s completely negated by his antics. And I’m a full Johnny B. defender, he seems quite thoughtful even if he does revert to fratboy actions sometimes. Still, his yelling at Tyler was awesome, although I too was disappointed that he fell into that trap. Tyler is so full of shit.
Is this Tyler? Is he moonlighting as a Russian performance queen? You be the judge!
LOL on baby burn book–the sad thing about it is, it’s probably what would happen! Don’t you have to put the needs of a baby first when you are a parent? I think that would require divine intervention when it comes to Tyler!
Thanks everyone who pointed out the erroneous anecdote/antidote issue. I swear I know the difference! Sometimes brain farts just happen, especially when you’re writing about this bunch…
Oh B-Side, when you are writing at such a feverish pitch, with such a tremendous amount of material racing through your brain, something has to give. It is understandable.
Alligatorwings, I just KNEW it would be the great Leonid in the clip! But, Leonid scores extra points in my book for being Russian. Tyler gets no such connection bonus :p.
Hey B-Side–
No worries on spelling–the the content that makes this site worthwhile!
I have been misspelling a lot of words just because I get so pissed about and/or inspired by what I am writing, so I forget to edit.
Also—sorry for writing about this episode on the last recap. I couldn’t wait to talk about it!
Fetita–if Leonid isn’t Tyler, he’s definitely competing with him for a gold medal in Attention Queendom at The Gay Games! I wonder if Tyler will make a similar teary imploration to the audience at the Real World Reunion when the show ends??
YOU LOVE ME! YOU REALLY LOVE ME!!!
LOL
Hey, you know, I am surprised no one has gone with this poke at Tyler yet: “What do you mean, you’ve pooped in your diaper? I have an OLYMPIAN coming! I don’t have time for this childish BS!” lol. Hey, I bet he would name the baby Michelle. Or maybe Cheng…
Did anyone else have flashbacks to Meet the Fockers when Zach’s parents arrived? I have been picturing these people as Barbra Streisand and Dennis Hoffman from day 1… I never knew I would be so validated! I love his parents lol. I want to meet them in real life. Screw the cast. I wanna meet the Zachs! Awesome.
LOL LOL True! Actually Zach seems to come from the most normal family! They may be hella granola, but Zach is a good guy (in dire need of a haircut)!
Gee–I wonder why Tyler’s parents never visited? They must be SO proud!
It’s funny how RW is so formulaic:
1-2 nice boy/girl (boring)
1-2 frat boy (comic relief)
1 party boy/girl (with issues)(drama)
1 self absorbed bitchy fag (drama!!!!)
1 angry black guy/ghetto barbie (or one who’s a combination of both)-makes race and discrimination an issue constantly
Seems like it always works out that way. My ex-roommate was one of the finalists for the RW San Francisco. I used to give him shit cuz I said that he didn’t make it because they found Puck and he was more of a narcissistic a’hole then my friend! LOL
Oh definitely, I really meant what I said about Zach’s parents. I get the feeling they, well, rock. I hope I find inlaws like them.
RW is *definitely* formulaic. They create characters that fit a certain dynamic. It is easier to create characters out of people who already possess some of the qualities they are hoping to bring out :p. Now that you’ve brought up Puck, it’s made me think… I cannot believe how long it has been since San Fran. I remember when Pedro died, and it was the talk of the town. I actually was very touched by it because even though I was very young, I could relate him to my own life. My mama happened to work with a lot of gay men, and sadly, a lot of them had HIV/AIDS. Some of those people were very good friends of hers and so became a huge part of my life, and unfortunately I experienced the illness and the deaths of some of them.
idk about anyone else but i totally think janelles ex seems to be gay.
B-Side, will you marry me? You may be the funniest person I’ve ever met.
This RW cast is the most co dependent bunch of pussies I’ve ever seen. I just do not understand how they can let Tyler be such a prissy little bitch and let Paula drink like they don’t know what’s going to happen without saying something. Anything! John is the only one who sticks his neck out and says something but what is it about the whole group that they wind up apologizing when they haven’t done anything? And the instigators of drama never have to apologize for anything!
PS re: the underwhelming marketing effort for AMANDA BEARD (don’t even start me on the contradiction in this) but if you recall prior to the opening of Mystic Tan Janelle and Jose got into a fight regarding marketing “turf.” In that episode, Jose spoke which was quite a shock. But Janelle also announced her reign over high end marketing for the place. In other words, it was actually her jurisdiction to promote the said high end guest headlining at a high end fundraising/personal relations event. Janelle sucks and I hate her almost more than I hate Tyler.
And even though this is the most insidious and tedious cast of RW yet, it’s also one of the more watchable casts yet.
PS Zach’s parents were the best, fully explaining many things about our loveable people pleaser, notwithstanding his lifelong vow to eschew all personal hygiene whatsoever. Perhaps he’s such a people pleaser that he foregoes using any water because he wants to save it for the rest of the schroomies.
What do you suppose Tyler is so deeply insecure about? It can’t be because he’s gay. I have to believe that his parents held him from birth saying “We love our gay baby.” He’s not an unattractive looking person, though because he’s such a bitchy asshole it’s made him less pretty. He’s athletic and smart (or at least he knows how to buy thrift store Tshirts advertising smart schools to make himself appear smart). I’m going to submit that perhaps his real name is Gus?
PS does anyone buy that he used to have an eating disorder? I think he picked that up in a book called “Convenient Theories For You” or something because it’s not really believeable.
I seem to remember he explained it as his dad being very sports focused, so he always felt like he had to overcompensate by excelling in sports. Plus, he padded that with the whole growing up gay in a straight world. That can create insecurities that can keep you always fighting to feel “good enough”, but personally I don’t think it completely explains or justifies HIS problem. Unfortunately the gay world put a premium on being “fabulous and fierce”, so when we get validation from the world from that, for some people like Tyler, it gives him that sense of being “good enough”. Constantly name dropping his school, how he did this and that, how smart/good looking he is, his bitchy, vicious/attacks retaliations, etc.–it’s all part of that.
Even John said it in their fight: “You don’t let anyone help with anything so afterwards you can stand back and tell everbody look what I did!” That event and having the great Amanda Beard appearing at HIS event was more about feeding his ego than it was about meeting her or doing a good job. I’m sure he’ll be dropping her name forever. “Yes, I am VERY good friends with THE Amanda Beard! YES! Can you believe it? Little old me, friends with a medal-winning Olympian???!”
And I don’t believe the eating disorder thing. I think he hopped on that train because he saw how fast it was moving for Paula! Excuse d’jour!
Personally I had a lot of female friends all of my life, so I think since you socialize with girls as gay men you can kind of pick up the whole “mean girl” thing. I remember in HS this girl who was relatively popular decided to ostracize me among our friends–just to entertain herself. Since it was HS, this really got to me after a couple of weeks. Well, by the next year–our senior year–let’s just say everybody thought she was the biggest joke and hardly anyone liked her. So when I say we all have it in us, I am talking from experience.
But in my opinion, despite your baggage or value system, you shouldn’t use it as carte blanche to treat people like garbage. Unfortunately, with a narcissist, they don’t know anything else–their world is deceit and manipulation, and they hijack people’s normal tendencies to bond and feelings of empathy to get by and get what they need from others. That is why that although it’s frustrating to see John and Svet fall in that hold with Tyler, it shows them as normal people capable of real emotions and ethics and integrity when it comes to others. Tyler doesn’t have that capacity, which makes him all the more pathetic.
Throw narcissistic personality disorder in Google. You more than likely know someone just like this!
Fetita–I loved Pedro–he was my favorite RW by far. It sucks that he had to endure Puck, but I think he knew he had to do that as part of his mission to create awareness about AIDS and HIV. He was a real hero.
I wish they would go back to that format–the no-age limit–so that they can include members who actually have a life. I’m sick of the RW casts that just sit around and drink, bitch, screw and tan.
Thanks for the quick recap B-Side! I wish they’d put you on as a commentator on those reality show “exposes”, because you are so f’ing witty!
Tyler went to very rigid, private Catholic Day School. Homosexuality is considered a hard-core sin in this environment, so Tyler has been taught from day one that gay = going to hell. I also remember him telling us that his family were very religious. That kind of fundamental rejection probably did set the tone for his problems later in life, however I STILL think he is responsible for his actions now, and I STILL think he’s NPD. Tyler has had access to counseling and support through Tufts, and Tufts has VERY active gay student support groups – Tyler was elected Homecoming Queen or something his senior year.
I don’t doubt that Tyler flirted with an eating disorder. It’s very common in high-level athletes, it’s just much harder to identify it in men. Eating Disorders are not stand-alone issues, they are almost always a symptom of a much bigger issue. ED’s in BPD’s and NPD’s are rampant – an ED is ALL about manipulation and control, which is why it’s a recognized hallmark behavior in BPD/NPD people.
BPD’s/NPD’s are usually not a product of nature, they’re a product of nurture (or the lack of it). I have no doubt Tyler and Paula suffered pain, abuse (of some kind), and rejection as children, however that does not give them license to hurt other people. It is their responsibility to function in society, what they are doing is a CHOICE. Paula CHOOSES to drink and take pills, knowing it will create chaos for her, and everyone around her. Tyler CHOOSES to target vulnerable people, and take advantage of his friendships. They do it because there is a pay-off in it for them – ATTENTION and CONTROL.
Aileen Wuornos, Jeffrey Dahmer, Edmund Kemper, Susan Smith, Christian Longo, Scott Peterson, OJ Simpson, Bonnie Lee Bakeley, Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy, Marie Hilley, Judith Buenoano, Dennis Rader, Andrew Cunanaan, Charles Manson, Celeste Beard, and on and on, are all examples of people who suffer from BPD or NPD, or a combination of the two. They all had rough childhoods in one way or another, especially Aileen Wuornos – would you voluntarily want/have wanted ANY of these people in your life? Obviously not all BPD/NPD people commit horrific crimes, but a HUGE percentage of people who do are BPD/NPD.
PS – Zach’s parents might be hippies, but they are LOADED – like Cara and Kyle from RW: Chicago loaded. Zach just looks like an old-school preppie Deadhead to me!
Great post, Cheez! You have tremedous insight on this!
Hopefully someone coming here to laugh or comment on the show will also now recognize someone like this in their lives and get away from them ASAP.
Allowing someone like this into your life is a total mindf-ck. Their ability to turn the tables on you through manipulation and lies is astounding–and before long you completely doubt your own perceptions about what is real, the truth, a lie right, wrong etc. What Tyler did with his little discussion was exactly that–suddenly–it was all John’s fault.
If there is someone like this in your life–get away! You can’t fix them or change them! The only answer is DISTANCE!
I loved the recap.
Very insightful and also eye-openning post CheeZTeeVeeAddict. It’s apparent that Tyler has a lot of anger from his childhood/adolescence and I think he knows it and wants to change but doesnt necessarily know how. He is 23, and while thats obviously old enough to know not to verbally attack other people, it still is young in a way. If he doesn’t come from a very supportive background with good role models of how to be trustworhty and respect others, i’m sure it is very easy to get to age 23 just repeating relationship cycles that you’re familiar with. Isn’t it in a way similar to how it is not uncommon for sexual abuse victims to recognize signs and recall abuse repressed from their childhood until their 20s.
Who the fuck is Amanda Beard?
since when did the comments section become a group therapy chat room?
It’s just spoiled, drunk, college kids! The comparison to murderers is eye-rollingly pretentious and obnoxious.
Save the amateur analysis and “personality disorder” psycho-babble.
Good point, gasmgrrl. Some of us are taking this show way too seriously. Just sit back and laugh at the freak parade, that’s all we need to do.
Most serial killers primarily have Antisocial Personality Disorder (APD). Tyler does not have APD, and his psychology should not be compared to serial killers.
Anyone else think Amanda Beard seemed like a total bitch?
I’d have been bitchy too if I had come for an appearance and had to stand around an empty shop for 3-4 hours and only have a handful of people show up. She probably went home and made a voodoo doll of Tyler with all the free Speed-O wear they gave her! LOL!
Also–not sure since I’m new here–but are we allowed to censor each other on this thread? I don’t feel like I have to right to tell someone else here to “save” their opinions or observations about the show. If I don’t agree–or if I don’t want to read what someone has posted–I just keep scrolling.
It seems kind of unfair and contrary to the whole purpose of this thread to mandate what others can or can’t say about the show. I think it also hinders many from actually posting, for fear of getting their eyes scratched out.
If people were trading recipes or using the thread as their personal blog, that’s one thing, but as long is someone’s posts are relevant to the discussion, it seems like it should be OK. I enjoy reading what people have to say. Many people here have made astute observations and pointed out things I totally missed. I’d hate for people to stop posting because they’re afraid someone is going to bash them and deem their posts unwelcome.
Just my humble opinion.
I’m sorry, but what did Amanda Beard expect? She’s not important. Fuck, the Olympics are over. I had no clue who she was. I would rather get
(damn mouse)…gasmgrrl’s autograph.
Thanks alligatorwings!
I appreciate your post. Obviously everyone is entitled to their opinion, whether I agree with it or not. I guess I was a little taken aback by how insulting gasmgrrl’s post was, but I’m over it.
I may be overly focused on the issue because I identify with it as having been a victim of people like that. I know how quickly things with people like Tyler and Paula spin out of control. The person I dealt with became very threatening without any warning – and it resulted in my having to take drastic action. I’m fundamentally uncomfortable with Tyler and Paula’s behavior.
I guess I’m enough of an “old-timer”, that I’m still interested in the “issues”. of RW (LOL!) Maybe I miss the social relevance of RW: San Francisco, etc.!
At any rate, I laugh a lot at this show, and I do enjoy it; much as I enjoy this blog – and most of the people on it. Most posts are pretty smart and funny, and it makes work go by a little faster!
I wouldn’t worry about it. Like I said, I think you have a right to post your thoughts on the show. Gasmgrrrrl has posted she loves Tyler and hates John, so it makes sense she would resent your comments and opinions about the show.
I have posted on other threads like this before, and it seems like there is always someone who jumps in out of nowhere and craps in the pool. They attack the people, the thread, their opinions, etc. Not surprisingly it runs a lot of people off or ruins the discussion everyone was having–which is the intent, I suspect.
It’s one thing to disagree with someone and tactfully contribute your viewpoint, but to come out of nowhere and JUST rudely take issue with someone else’s–for lack of a better term–sucks.
Diagnostic Criteria of Antisocial Personality Disorder:
There is a pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others occurring since age 15 years, as indicated by three (or more) of the following:
failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest
deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure
impulsivity or failure to plan ahead
irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults
reckless disregard for safety of self or others
consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain consistent work behavior or honor financial obligations
lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another
The only person I listed who fits this criteria was Aileen Wuornos, who was legally labelled as BPD by noted national experts. Most of the people I listed lived seemingly normal, outward existences which is why it was so shocking when they were identified as murderers.
I am not saying Tyler and Paula will become murderers. I just think they’re sick, angry people, and the potential for violence exists. Paula’s recent arrest for attacking and biting her boyfriend indicates she is capable of real violence. I can’t imagine being attacked like that – I would find that terrifying.
No one is censored, but speaking of personal attacks and rudeness both Chee-Z and Alligator are out of line.
Why don’t the two of you exchange email address or phone nembers so you can talk through your personal experiences. Better yet- get a room. Why do the rest of us need to be exposed to your neurosis? You could talk through your various personality disorders and how messed up your friends and lovers have been. The rest of us, who use this site for entertainment, not therapy, could go on chatting about the MTV reality stars we know and love so well.
Sorry if you think that is rude, but so is monopolizing this thread with your issues.
And yes I still love Tyler.
Spoken like a true
“grrrl”….
While I concede that the psychoanalysis is a bit of a dead horse at this point, last time I checked, my contributions haven’t keeping anyone from posting their opinions about the show or telling people what they can or can’t post. People are free to comment, discuss and post as they like, imdependent of what you, I or anyone else post. This isn’t a piece of paper with limited space–it’s a thread, so if you don’t want to read what one person or certain people have to say, keep scrolling. If you want to change the direction of the conversation, contribute your opinion instead of just coming on and bitching about what or how much people are or aren’t posting.
And yes, I can see you love Tyler–bullies love to watch each other at work.
gasmgrrl –
I don’t have any interest in continuing this dialogue with you – I think going further with this IS violating the purpose of this blog.
If my posts bother you this much, PLEASE do yourself a favor and don’t read them. I am not intentionally trying to upset you – and I’m genuinely sorry that you are so upset.
You made your point. I disagree.
Let’s agree to disagree.
I’m a nice person, I don’t like controversy. So, can we drop it?
People with APD will often physically hurt others. People with NPD will often not.
That is the fundamental difference.
WOW, you can Google DSM IV!
RED GOD!!
Anyone else excited to see Janelle’s boy-toy leave her and her saline-tastic tatas behind tonight?
I know I am! Whee!
Re: this week’s episode I can’t wait until B-Side posts his thoughts.
1) CURFEW??? Janelle mentions that they have a curfew. I don’t get it. Most RWers seem to start drinking the minute they land in the house and don’t stop until they’re done. I need more information about the curfew.
2) The visting boyfriends are the RW Jason and Jordan (The Hills). Kasib, especially, couldn’t give two shits about Janelle, is an asshole to her before he even gets there, and then is more interested in camera face time than anything else. It’s so exciting that the ice princess is, in fact, just another desperate woman who will believe anything just to have a man in her life. Amen! She’s human after all. Sadly, he’s the most exciting thing that has happened in Key West. Pa-thetic!
3) I still think Tyler sucks. He’s a master manipulator and the rest of the cast is so passive aggressive and codependent they never call him out on his idiot behavior. I find myself screaming at the TV for all of them to grow a pair and tell him to fuck off.
4) Rickey the Mystic Tan guy pisses me off too. This is the wussiest job of any cast. Most of the past cast members have some, um, actual accountability at their job and experience consequences when they actively fuck up. Back to Tyler, after re-watching the Amanda Beard episode, he totally failed at the event that was supposively to save the business. Perhaps I’ve just worked in the actual real world for too long, but generally if you goof up little stuff at work, there are consequences. Rickey rewards them by arranging for a new car. Or MTV got it for them. Whatever it’s totally stupid. I want to look Tyler up and tell him off myself.
Re: the argument, dudes — chill out. This is a blog about reality TV. You’re all getting so sensitive about a bunch of narcissistic teenagers who don’t have anything better to do with their lives but capitalize on their youth while they still have it. Sad? Yes. Are they totally fucked up? Absolutely! But do people need to fight about their individual points of view? Here? No.
Hopefully Tyler will access his life after Real World. I will bet his family does not have problems with him because he is gay… but rather because he is Tyler. Being “Tender” about other people feelings will open doors. Someone being gay isnt an issue. Being mean is. None of us have our life together…and none of us needs to be punished or shamed for it. At this point Tyler can not write a check with his life without it bouncing. Yet he is constantly complaining about others indebtedness to him for not being “tender.”….. give up act!
It is an interesting comment on this cast when Johnny Bananas comes out as clearly the most mature individual. Just because someone gets a little wild and acts a little silly at times does not mean he or she is immature.
The “dumb frat boy” comments I read about him in here amuse me greatly. People are missing the point. There is clearly more to this guy than just some inability to know when to stop. When he crosses a line, he does it out of a sense of fun. Compare this to Tyler and Janelle who cross lines all the time in truly evil and sadistic ways.
Put it this way: Which cast member would you want to have in your corner when you needed them?
JohnGalt, you took the words right out of my mouth… er right from under my fingers. Even with my anti-frat guy bias, I can see that John is by far the most mature person on RW Key West. Hell, I think I’d even enjoy being around him, and I don’t even like beer bongs.
As for Tyler, his inability to feel empathy for others means that he’s a waste of time for the other roommates–he will never have any real relationships unless he fundamentally changes.
Sorry, JohnGalt and maketomorrow but I have to disagree with your assessment that John is the most mature roommate. While I agree there is more to John than a dumb frat boy and also agree that you can be mature and still act wild and silly sometimes, I feel Zach is more mature. I’m sure you all remember the sign Tyler posted for Zvetlana. Zach was very angry about that and called Tyler on it but not by screaming at him and having his own hissy fit. Zach tried to talk rationally with Tyler about how wrong it was and when he saw Tyler wasn’t willing to listen, he walked away. Now that is mature. Yes, people should be called on their bad behavior but not by exhibiting more bad behavior. The reality of this “reality” series is that these people have to live together for a certain time. The mature thing is to let go of the anger and move on.
I agree that John had a hissy fit, but Zach is Mr. Conflict-Avoider. I’d respect him a lot more if he could actually say what he says to the camera to the person he’s talking about. Anyone can be eloquent when discussing problems if there’s no danger of having to deal with a real person’s response.
I dunno–I think Zach is just smart enough to realize that he’s not going to fundamentally change anyone’s behavior-least of all in that house!
Obviously getting upset or mad is just a waste of time and energy and really does little to affect change (especially given all the tenderness)
I made dumb frat boy comments about John before, but I am also of the opinion now that John is actually a genuinely great guy. Zach and Jose may be the most “normal”, but John seems to be the best combination of a lot of really good qualities. He’s cute, no bullshit, has a good heart, is a lot of fun, and has a good head on his shoulders. On the downside he smokes and he’s not my boyfriend–oh well–nobody’s perfect! LOL
I, for one, have been thoroughly enjoying hearing other viewers’ pschoanalysis of the RWers! Sometimes the behavior of the people on this show is so bizarre (and, in Tyler and Janelle’s case, appalling!) and it’s interesting to hear people’s theories on what makes people behave this way. I hope Chee-zee TV Addict will keep it up–I think your comments are always very insightful and that you would make a great therapist!