
Previously on The Real World: Brooke went nuts, Jenn was a slut, and Colie was a total idiot. Apparently this was enough to warrant a “To Be Continued…”, but the truth was that today’s second installment of silliness was pretty much just a mirror image of last week, give or take a few decibels. Brooke still remained kooky, Jenn was still whorish, and Colie continued to triumphantly carry the torch for dumb, needy, embarrassing girls across the country. Hoorah, strong female role models!We picked up this latest episode exactly where the last one left off: Lodo’s pub of sexual tension. Yes, Alex and Jenn were still sucking face, and Colie explained to us, “Alex, he’ll pretty much make out with anyone that wants to make out with him.” This stands in stark contrast to Colie and Jenn, who clearly have very high standards. Sometimes I fear they’ll be spinsters with their utter refusal to let men into their sacred temples of womanhood.
Anyway, Colie was shocked — shocked — by Jenn’s actions (who would have thought a slutty girl would do such a thing??), and before we could hold Colie’s hand and empathize with her plight, we suddenly saw Jenn honing her inner Pussycat Doll and licking Alex all over his face as if it were a giant manwhore lollipop with a fresh coating of stubble.
As the gang all headed home, Colie noted, “I think there’s something in Alex’s mind that’s like ‘Corey’s going to be there, then I’m going to do everything I can to prove to you that I have no feelings for you!’” Colie, I have some bad news for you: IT’S NOT ALL ABOUT YOU!!!
To be fair, I couldn’t discount everything Colie was saying. I do think that Alex was taking some sadistic glee in hurting Colie with some passive-aggressive sex. But I think most importantly, he’s probably wanted to bone Jenn since their first triumphant sexual exchange. Besides, does Colie get to bitch about this stuff with Corey in town? If anything, she should be mad at Jenn, not Alex.
The screen then split into two as we watched both couples (Colie and Corey, Jenn and Alex) doin’ it in their respective rooms. Poor Tyree was left out of all the fun as usual, stuck with the consolation prize of tending to Alex’s friend, Brett. This might not have been such a bad thing since Brett seemed to actually have a brain in his head. The two talked about the Alex and Colie situation, and Tyree expressed frustration with their endless flirtations, saying it had to stop. Brett meanwhile boiled it down to something very simple — and squishy. “You don’t shit where you sleep,” he said. “Right now, he’s fucking taking a diarrhea dump where he sleeps.” Congratulations Colie and Jenn: you are officially metaphorical diarrhea. And I wasn’t even the ass who came up with it!
Later on, Alex and Jenn moved their slutfest into the shower, which was all the more painful for Colie who had to suffer the indignation of peeing just feet from their copulation. She lashed out at Jenn, at least to us, saying, “Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.” She then added, “And if you don’t know how to fool me, well, then you’re just a massive idiot. Everyone fools me.”
As for Jenn, she told us that “I’m not concerned with how Colie feels. She has a boyfriend, and I can’t cater to who Colie loves each week.” In many ways, I agreed with all that Jenn was saying. However, this whole “I’m not concerned with how Colie feels” conflicts with the “we’re best friends and will be at each other’s weddings” façade they’d constructed. Is Colie flighty? Yes. Is she dumb with boys? Yes. Should Jenn have hooked up with the guy that Colie’s been drooling over for the past few weeks? No.
Amusingly, Jenn then told us that regarding the whole Colie/Alex situation, “I don’t know how the hell I keep coming in between this!” She then added, “It’s like when I throw myself at Alex and lick his face and have sex with him, I suddenly wind up in the middle! How does that happen?”
Elsewhere in Denver, Brooke was out to lunch with Davis, his boyfriend PJ, and Stephen. She boasted about how wonderful she felt in the post-Jenn rant, and let me tell you something Brooke — I was right there with you. I say you chew out Jenn and Colie every day. You know, just for your mental health. Not because I get some sort of twisted, vicarious thrill out of it.
Of course, while Brooke might have felt like a slutty weight had been lifted from her shoulders, there was still a certain reality to face: she slept in the same room as those girls. So she had to either make peace or sleep in other people’s beds. If I were her, I’d be getting real cozy with her roommates…
We then found Colie wandering the streets with her boyfriend Corey, saying, “I really don’t like the people I live with.” SO LEAVE. PLEASE! Actually, I really couldn’t begrudge Colie her sentiments. I’d be miserable in that house too. Nevertheless, she explained that she could have fun with her roomies, but Jenn, for instance, was an alcoholic (unlike Colie who merely drank ridiculous amounts until she lost all her dignity. Big difference).
Amusingly, Corey simply could not fathom that a creature like Jenn existed. “I don’t see how someone can drink throughout the whole day and still make poor decisions,” he mused, clearly used to all those excellent decisions that come from an all-day binge.
Corey then suggested that maybe Jenn wasn’t an alcoholic, but perhaps she used booze as an excuse to have sex with someone. So you see, she doesn’t have a drinking problem. She merely suffers from debilitatingly low self-esteem as manifested in her rampant sluttiness. That’s much better.
Colie then chimed in, “On that note of it, we’re totally different.” Yes, because when Colie drinks, she doesn’t use it as a way to have sex with people. It’s more a social lubricant for better, more effective whining.
We then found the two nestled in together at a restaurant where a rather sad conversation followed. Corey told Colie, “If I had my way, I’d be marrying you.” Um… was he aware of the whole “This will be the last time we’ll be seeing each other EVER!” plan that Colie had in store? I’m sensing there might be some heartache around the corner.
Anyway, the scene became more painful as Corey went so far as to tell Colie that he’d convert to her, which was particularly tragic considering Colie was probably at that moment trying to figure out just how many of the waiters she wanted to date at the same time. Nevertheless, the conversation turned into a sappy, whiny debate as the two wound up accusing each other of trying to make the other feel badly. Corey said she was making him feel bad by hooking up with a roommate (who she just happens to be unhealthily obsessed with), and Colie said he was making her feel bad by telling stories of how other girls happened to be out at parties that he’s been going to. So wait a second: merely sharing space with other girls should be on the same plane as Colie’s horny pursuit of Alex? OY VEY. Colie, please see a therapist. It’s the only way. It’s the only way.
After the break, we found a note posted on the girls’ bedroom alerting the public that Colie was taking “a nap” with Corey. She then signed the letter with a heart that was fashioned out of the C in “Colie,” which kind of made me want to throw up in my lap. Well, having been sexiled from her room, Brooke fussed about, saying how rude it was that Colie didn’t bother taking her carnal nap down to the guest bedroom. Funny, wasn’t it Colie just a few weeks ago who was chastising Alex for disrespectfully having sex upstairs, just feet from Colie’s virginal ears? Nevertheless, I was happy that Colie sullied her bedroom, if only because it gave Brooke the opportunity to rant once again. “I think she’s rude. I think she’s insensitive, and I don’t like how she treats people!” she said, adding, “Now somebody get me down before I fall off this incredibly high horse.” (Don’t worry Brooke, I got your back. You’re still my fave).
Brooke then got on the phone with her mom, and somehow resisted the urge to scream, “I’M IN HELL!!!!” Instead, she bashed her roommates, saying that she and Colie were merely “pleasant.” You know, in a completely not pleasant sort of way. Brooke then complained about Jenn and her drunken belligerence, causing Ma to ask, “Honey, have you tried to talk to these girls reasonably and rationally?” Huh? What are these crazy words you’re throwing around, Mrs. Brooke? Reasonably? Rationally? I’m sorry, but I don’t speak gibberish.
Elsewhere in the house, Jenn was busy talking to PJ and Davis, who were once again wrapped up in towels and brushing their teeth. I feel like those two are in a constant state of just getting out of the shower. Anyway, as usual, Jenn herself was in a constant state of stupidity, and she explained the whole Brooke fight fairly simply: “She called me a trashy bitch. That’s why I called her a whore.” Uh… you’re kind of overlooking that whole part where you started the whole fight by calling her a brat without any true provocation. ROCK STAR!
While Jenn removed herself from any responsibility in the tiff, Corey and Colie had another “relationship” conversation by the bathtub. The two talked about general stuff, and Corey explained that he understood why she was hooking up in Denver. The temptations were all around. “It’s painful for me to, like, look at you in the face and, lik, think about other girls coming up to you,” Colie said, continuing, “And I think it’s painful for you to look at me and think of other guys coming up to me.” Once again, I enjoyed the way in which Colie managed to be territorial and jealous while completely glossing over the fact that she doesn’t merely have guys “coming up” to her, but she’s actively pursuing them, in some cases obsessing and borderline stalking. Ultimately, the two agreed that the situation was painful because they hated thinking of each other with different mates. Here’s an idea: STOP CHEATING ON EACH OTHER.
The next morning, Colie delivered Corey to the airport where they shared a hug, a kiss, and one more kiss after that. Little did Corey realize that this would be the last time they’d be seeing each other… EVER!!! Sucker.
Colie seemed to retract from her earlier statement about their future, no longer saying that this was the end but instead that “It’s a situation that’s going to play its way out.” Translation: I PLAN TO HAVE SEX WITH ALEX IMMEDIATELY!!!
After the break, we returned to the house where Brooke was galavanting around in a cowboy hat, preparing for a fun night at a country western bar. Because Jenn’s visiting friends were curious, Brooke then demonstrated the secret art of The Electric Slide, a dance so complicated that only the most skilled hoofers can master it. Well, apparently Brooke went down the electric slide, fell off, and bumped her head because next thing we knew, we saw her having a nice, mature, and low-decibel conversation with Jenn. Thanks to some booze, the two patched up their differences (for now) and agreed that they were just dealing with pent up emotion. Jenn reassured her that she didn’t really think she was a whore, and Brooke replied, “I don’t think you’re a whore either!” She then stifled a laugh, glanced at the camera Jim Halpert style, and mouthed “Total whore!”
Okay, she didn’t do that, but you know, you know she wanted to. Ultimately, both girls managed to blame Colie for their problems, and Brooke finally confessed to us, “I’m a pretty weird girl. I’m a weirdo. I understand that.” She then added, “I’M IN WEIRDO HELL!!!!!”
Later, we found Colie talking to Tyree, obsessing once again over Alex and his recent reluctance to talk to her. “Alex hasn’t talked to me since Corey came, for pretty obvious reasons,” she said. Reason 1: you’re annoying. Reason 2: you’re needy. Reason 3: you’re obsessive. Huh, those are pretty obvious reasons after all!
Tyree pretty much just rolled his eyes at Colie and told her to stop hooking up with Alex and move on. THANK YOU. He then amusingly noted, “Officially, Jenn is 3-0 on you right now.” HAHA. Exactly…
Alex then arrived back at the house from wherever he was (a pink shirt convention), and even though he had a gaggle of friends with him, Colie pulled him aside and insisted that they talk. However, he pretty much blew her off due to the fact that he had guests, and next thing we knew, Alex and his friends and Colie were all in the tub, getting drunk and having a good time. Unfortunately, Colie was way more drunk than everyone else (shocker), and soon she was drawling on and on to some girl, conveniently in Alex’s earshot, about how much she loved Corey or something like that. The whole scene was again classically pathetic, and Alex couldn’t help but to dismiss Colie with a curt and appropriate “Eccch.”
At one point, Colie crawled up to Alex and stared him down, kind of like a retarded bull fight, but he broke the awkwardness by asking her what she was doing. “Alright, shut the fuck up,” she hissed/slurred back at him. Yes, she was wasted and not making any sense as usual; so what better time to get on the phone and talk with Corey. Okay, to be fair, I don’t remember if the Corey scene happened that night or the next day. Either way, Corey said it truly sucked that they acted like they were a couple when they saw each other, and yet, as soon as he left, she probably already had a date planned. “I don’t,” she muttered, adding, “I merely threw myself at Alex with the hopes that he’d have sex with me multiple times in the span of four hours.”
Anyway, Corey clearly saw the writing on the wall, and even though the poor guy loved Colie, he didn’t want to be played the fool. He told her he wasn’t going to be just that guy in the background she goes back to when she’s done hooking up with the rest of Denver. He was going to do his own thing also. As the words came out of the phone, Colie’s face began to crumble. The tears flowed, and she realized that yes, Corey was actually dumping her. And it wasn’t one of those dumps that come from a loud, bitter argument (because those breakups never last). This was one that came from careful thought, and it hurt. Oh, it hurt. Colie was soon bawling into the phone, sad because she couldn’t have her red wine and drink it too. Meanwhile, I was just laughing. What goes around comes around, bitches! I always love when people go on The Real World, hook up with a bunch of people and then expect their boyfriends and girlfriends to just stand idly by. I mean, I should have felt badly for Colie, I guess, but considering how she toyed with this guy’s emotions and the way she seemed to treat his presence like emotional currency with Alex, I felt this turn of events was sweet justice.
“COREY, STOP!!!” Colie pleaded, but her safety-net of a boyfriend was intractable. And cheesy: “I just set you free. Be happy,” Corey said, but Colie was far from happy. She was a total mess — much more so than you’d expect from someone who had been proudly anticipating saying goodbye once and forever. Be careful what you wish for, Colester, because it might just come true!
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Yeah, Colie got her desserts. I like how she “rewound” from ALex’s personal space back to where she was in the hot tub after she was rebuffed by Alex. She was lurching at him like an animal.
Jenn, unlike a lot of sluts, actually looks like she’d be a good f**k, face-licking and all.
What, no good screencaps?!
Did PJ just become the 8th roommate? He’s been there for a month it seems. Both Mercii and Corey and Brett have come and gone and he’s still hanging around.
There is something seriously wrong with Colie. She talks like she is either drunk 24/7 or has marbles in her mouth. Why can’t she talk without sounding like an idiot?
Also, what is Colie? Why does Corey have to “convert” to be married to her? Is she a Mormon? I can’t imagine a Mormon acting like her heh.
I was totally thinking the same thing about PJ!! He’s in next weeks episode too….and the shower comment was so right on..way to go Davis’s mom your son now compulsively showers to wash his “sins” away!!!
you guys are so right on. PJ has been there forever and everytime we see him and davis, they’re wearing towels. ok episode but i saw the sneak peek for next week and BROOKE MAKES OUT WITH TYRIE. this is going to get goooooood.
PJ and Davis are more like fraternal twin brothers than bf/bf. He was probably pissed that he had to constantly hear each girl talk to him about how much they hated the other girl..
Tyrie’s comment about Jenn being 3-0 on Colie was hilarious. Colie.. you are so pathetic. That “rewind” move in the hot tub was also classic.. like she FINALLY realized that he didn’t want her. Wow.. took her long enough.
And are these people using condoms?? WTF? Before Jenn and Alex went to the shower, they had obviously been doing the deed.. they’re just dumb. I wish we could do a side by side of Jenn saying that she found Alex repulsive and how she wouldn’t fuck him while sober.. She really “belittled” him!
This is my first time commenting here, but I’ve been reading the Real World recaps since forever, even AFTER I watch the show, just to see how B-Side recaps it…Anyway, what I really wanted to post is: I FREAKIN’ HATE that retarded little bun Colie always makes on the top of her head!! There, I said it.
^She probably copied it from her idol, Britney Spears.
I think calling Colie’s knappy do’ a bun is being too generous. It’s more of a bird nest that got caught in a hurricane. Bleh!!
This episode is definatly my favorite so far, because I think Colie finally woke up. She finally figured out that guys aren’t that into her, and I just loved how Alex treated her in the hot tub. Then Corey (who I thought Colie did not deserve, cause she’s way out of his league in terms of looks and personality) makes the correct deceision, turns the table around and hurts colie by breaking up with her, that was just awesome. She thought she could do anything she wanted, and I seriously hope she learned a lesson after this episode.
You all know how much I hate her, but I felt kind of bad for her at the end. I thought she was genuinly sad and hurt, and even though she deserved it, no one should be feeling like that. I mean, seriously, imagine you’re insane like colie. You think everything is going to go your way with the person your very attracted to, yet it doesn’t. So you try and make up with the person who you originally had a good relationship with, and that person totally refuses to have anything to do with you….hpmh, what am I saying, Colie deserved to be treated like that. I guess she needed to learn the hard way..
Roleepolee,
what is wrong with you? How can you feel bad for Colie? I have never in my life (of watching stupid, dehumanizing TV) seen a girl act so f***ing sluttish as Colie. Is this girl a nymphomaniac, or a mental home escapee?
I am thoroughly disheartened. I actually sent Colie a message on myspace, saying “You are a c**t” because I was so upset at her antics tonight. Whatever happened to faithfulness? Loyalty? People not cheating on their S/Os?
I am sick. Hey! Why don’t I ask my boyfriend to FLY IN to Colorado, f*** me, and then start bragging about being “free” after he leaves? GOOD JOB ALEX (although I think that you too are an idiot) for rejecting that pseudo-New Orleans whore.
-Josh
mangos, colie is jewish. if you remember when she first met adam, she liked him because he is jewish and going to be a doctor.
Yes, Colie is a mess, but I felt bad for her because she’s completely confused and mentally unstable. Perhaps slowing down on the drinking would help.
Having said that, I really hate Brooke with a passion. I want to slap those disgustingly pursed lips off her bloated face.
Looks like next week she freaks because Davis should “NEVER TALK TO HER LIKE THAT!!!!” She should up her dosage. A lot.
Since when did Tyrie become the voice of reason in the Real World house?
Oh, and I hate Colie’s rat’s nest hairdo too. Seriously, buy a brush.
couldn’t agree more about colie’s hair. she should use a conditioner more often. oh and nice scrunchie.
I didn’t watch this episode (b/c I had to watch AI, which my sister recorded for me so I could vote before the phone lines closed), but roleepolee, how could Colie be out of someone’s league both in terms of personality and looks? Are we talking about someone who looks like Quasimodo and has the personality of a log?
I don’t think slut is a good way to describe Colie. I don’t think she’s a slut, I do think she’s a codependant basket case. I really don’t understand how people can become that codependant. I have friends like that…well, not quite like that, but who just can’t stand being without a boyfriend or girlfriend. What do they think is going to happen to them? That someone is going to come and kill them because they’re single?
Yay! Finally something actually happens with these lame-os!! It has been a mighty boring season so far so I am glad to finally have a catfight or 2 on the show.
I watched the sneak peak of next week’s episode, and I have good news and bad news:
The good news- our favorite overmedicated brunette starts throwing herself at nearly every man in the house. Hooray for hoes! They make the show worth watching. (Except for Colie. And the entire Austin cast.)
The bad news- Outward Bound is back. Booooooo!
Thanks for the fast recap, B-Side!
@ RockStar-
First, ROFLMAO at your nic. Please note that although you can’t see me, I am throwin the rock star fingers in your direction. Rock Star- WOOOOOOOO!!!!
Second, rolee made a big typo. She meant that the BF was way out of Colie’s league, not the other way around. If you read it again I think that is pretty obvious, since rolee trashes Colie (Heee! That rhymes!!) in the rest of the post.
My opinion on E. Colie’s wonky hair-do is this: E. Colie if your too slovenly and lazy to comb your hair, cut it. You are an unkempt pig, didn’t anyone ever teach you how to clean yourself up? Gee, I WONDER why guys aren’t that into you, you’re a fucking mess.
Corey is WAAAAAYYYY out of E. Colie’s league. I’m guessing in the college “bubble”, she seemed better than she was because of the whole incestuous nature of socializing in the Greek system. Now that Corey’s out in the REAL real world, he’s realizing that E. Colie is just a homely, needy hag. Regardless of how he said he loved her, would convert, blah, blah, blah, I think his intention was to dump her all along. I think he wanted to make a clean break, and knew her well enough to know how to finesse her into accepting it.
E. Colie’s play for Alex was actually just flat-out disturbing. The guy had just fucked Jenn, repeatedly. His friend clearly stated that Alex was NOT interested in her. Alex brought home more women, and very deliberately blew her off. So what does E. Colie do? She imposes herself into his space, then physically tries to push him into a kiss, or whatever. If a guy did that to a girl, it would have been considered inappropriate at best; intimidation or harassment at worst.
I think E. Colie’s about the hit the skids – I can’t wait.
I can’t wait to see the upcoming episodes with Brooke’s rages – LOVE that nutcase! Also, did I see a preview where Jenn and Stephen supposedly hook-up? This season is actually turning out to be pretty good, except for having to look at E. Colie – who reminds me of Blair’s CP cousin from Facts of Life.
1. I loved how Tyrie told Colie what the deal was…although Brett, Davis and Alex has told her the reality of the situation.
2. I loved the fact that Jenn refuses to let us down. We know she’s a slutbag whore and she delivers everytime.
3. I absolutely loved when Colie tried to kiss Alex and he moved back to avoid her…priceless!!!
Colie is exactly the kind of spoiled prissy Jersey trash that gives those of us who grew up there and actually do our hair/avoid excessive tanning/wear something other than sweats a bad name.
Jenn and Colie are so trashy and disgusting. I think Jenn is a little better though, because she has no delusions about how she’s acting or treating Colie. Oh yeah, and she can actually GET the guy she wants instead of stalking him maniacally like Colie.
I love Tyrie and Brett (make him permanent!); they always have the best and truest commentary on the other whackjobs in the house.
And I’m still on Brooke’s side. She is awesome. If she was on another cast I’d probably find her repulsive, but compared to Colie and Jenn she’s just adorable and somehow seems justified when she flips outl
Colie, Colie, Colie….this girl is a complete mess and if you watched the after-show, she still doesn’t get it. She’s multiple contradictions and when it all blows up in her face, it’s like she’s standing there saying, “what did I do to deserve this?”
By the way, does anyone watch the aftershow? I hate it, it’s so watered down. No one asks real confronting questions. In fact, they ask stupid ones like, “How did you feel when Corey was dumping you?” Hello! Obvious! How about, “What’s up with you trying to be with all these guys at once and get mad at Alex when he’s with someone else?” Although Zach did a good job of trying to expose that.
All in all, I don’t think of I’ve ever disliked like the entire cast of Real World in a season before like this time. They all suck!
I actually watched the episode (sometimes I just read B-Side’s recaps ’cause they’re so spot on) and I cannot believe Colie said…
Colie: “I thought Corey would leave and I would be free to be with Alex”
WHAT THE HELL!? She deserves to get dumped! She treats the guy that wanted to “convert” (what is Colie religious. Pfft) and marry her like absolute crap for a guy (Alex) that obviously doesn’t like her brand of slut (needy and desperate).
And next week’s previews… aww. I love the Davis/Brooke friendship… too bad Brooke chooses him to flip out on next. And oh my god. Brooke wants to have sex with PJ/Davis? EW!!!
#17: Thanks for explaining my comment to rockstar. Sorry about the confusion. You guys know what I’m trying to say. That Corey guy is way better looking then Colie, and smart too. He should’ve hooked up with Brooke. THAT would’ve been so awesome. But I think it would’ve drove Colie to suicide, so I’m glad it didn’t happen.
#18: Again, spot on with your comments. I loved it when the camera zoomed into Colie’s deranged face when Alex refused to get close to her. You can see her brain is scrambling by looking at her face, and her weird lip movements. lol. I don’t think this show wouldve been this fun without Colie and her onscreen disaster. Although I still feel a little bad for her. But watching the aftershow only further proved how dumb she really is.
Can’t wait till I see Brooke snap again! She’s irresistible, and I knew people were going to jump on the Brooke bandwagon.
Christ on a cracker, I don’t think there exists an industrial sized vat of Lysol big enough to scrub away the STD’d footprints that Jenn, Alex and Colie have left all over that house. I couldn’t stop squealing–yes, squealing– “EWWWW!” during the Corey/Colie, Jenn/Alex hookup scenes, especially Jenn and Alex in the shower, where I imagined their equally slutty bacteria cavorting and multiplying in the suds. Don’t they eventually place these Real World houses on the market? I’m afraid that if the producers don’t stick the cast members in their own plastic bubbles and let them roll around the house hamster style, they’re gonna have to take a match to this house or risk responsibility for the next plague.
I think I’ve only seen three episodes this season (this was one of them), and I don;t know why I havent been trying harder to catch them, because all 3 I’ve seen have been AMAZING…Brooke’s hilarious and for the most part, totally in the right
Jens a pretty girl and should stop insisting on putting on more makeup than my friend who does drag every Wed night
Colie has to be one of the top 5 stupidest, love to hate cast members in RW history. My other 4 would have to be
the Miz
Wes
Julie
hmm…I’ll have to think about who to give my coveted 5th spot too
What about everyone else? B-side? Top 5 most trainwrecker RWorlders??
colie’s cooter-
the Real World houses aren’t actually houses. THere more like really big sets with rooms.
I realize that I am in the minority here, but I actually feel sorry for Colie rather than hatred or disgust like many of the other posts. I agree that she has dependency issues with respect to her relationships with men, but it’s an emotional disorder for which she could probably benefit from some serious professional help. I will concede that she repeatedly makes a lot of the same mistakes and doesn’t always learn from them, but again, that is part of her disorder. Hopefully she’ll get the help she needs so she’ll be able to focus on the people that truly care about her (Corey) rather than this one guy who not only doesn’t care about her, he has no respect for her (Alex).
Jenn also seems to have some psychological “challenges” when it comes to men. But I think in her case, unlike Colie, she doesn’t get emotionally attached to these guys, she just has sex with them. That may explain why she continues to sleep with Alex even though she claims to be repulsed by him and at one point even said that she regretted having slept with him in the first place. But then she’s back in bed (and the shower) with him once again. Maybe her issues are attributed to having a father that didn’t stick around so she fears getting close to anyone on an emotional level. Unfortunately it just makes her look trashy (to quote Brooke).
Brooke obviously has self-control issues (which she has acknowledged) when it comes to venting her frustration. The way that she lashed out at Colie, who simply mentioned a dirty dish and then at Jenn, who called her a brat, was completely over the top and certainly didn’t warrant that all-out tirade.
So there really isn’t one emotionally stable female in that household. But I’m sure that selecting these three girls was a calculated move on the part of the show’s producers because it makes for interesting viewing I suppose.
#28: Colie’s problem is not as serious as you say it is. She’s just immature and naive. Mix that with her massive ego, and you have one really spoiled and pathetic girl. I really think she deserved everything that happened to her on this episode. It’s the only way she’ll learn.
Jenn is just a bitch, plain and simple. Someone who posted not too long ago said she is just bad news, and that’s all it is. She fucks Alex just to make Colie misarable, why? cause she’s a bitch. She likes hurting people’s feelings, and she tries to come across as someone who’s not doing anything wrong. Both these girls have no serious mental problems. They’re just really immature, horny and catty. These are the girls all guys should watch out for. Yes, they’re somewhat attractive, but to screw them is a big risk to one’s mental and physical health.
Brooke on the other hand does have mental issues, I agree. She’s oversensitive, and has a very bad temper that she does need to control, I have to admit that. But what I like about her is the fact that she admits to having problems, and she tries to understand that she needs to work on her issues. Plus she doesn’t go all crazy over guys around her, even though she’s attracted to them. She openly admited that she thinks Alex is “VERY attractive and good looking” (RW Aftershow 02/14). But she knew if she got involved with him, or any of the guys, she would regret it later. I wish more girls were like her.
B-Side way to get the recap started right with an outstanding title for the post!
Colie’s hair is awful when she puts it up in that bun. She does it on purpose too, I don’t know why she thinks that is cute. Oh yeah because she’s an IDIOT!
Shiaobundan-I was thinking the same thing when Colie said that. It’s pretty clear that Colie doesn’t really feel anything for anyone, she just has to latch onto the nearest warm body with a penis.
Another thing-Maybe I’m missing something but what did Tyrie mean when he said Jen was 3-0 on Colie? Jen has only hooked up with Alex twice and Colie has hooked up with Alex so it would be 2-1. Or did he mean something else and I’m just missing it?
Love reading your obvious glee over all the meltdowns, B-side. Love it!
And Colie brings new meaning to the words “Ugly Crier”. Man. I mean, I’m not surprised she looks even worse while crying, but…wow.
That’s one butt-ugly crier.
And I’m sorry, I can’t cut her any slack because she was planning on dumping Corey anyway and got DUMPED FIRST INSTEAD!
It’s like a Seinfeld episode come to life!
Can Alex’s friend Brett stay in the house, please? He seems to have his head screwed on right.
And is Alex ever coming out of the closet or what?
WOW.
After watching way too many of these episodes on overdrive, I have to say that I wouldn’t hook up with any of these girls, given the opportunity.
Brooke would be hard to resist, given her looks and my attraction to crazy basket cases, but even there I would have to be strong. It’s just not worth it.
I WOULD BE IN HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Colie has got to be the ugliest cryer ever. Everytime she cries I find myself laughing hysterically.
oh and btw I HATE HER BUN too! Does she know what a brush is??? Or more importantly, how to use one?? I think not. I hate the way she walks too when she’s carrying a purse.
roleepolee, you and I have one thing in common; we have an aversion to Jenn because she’s a slut. Even though I disagree with Jenn’s actions, I still think they stem from a deep-rooted issue relating to her upbringing. I am not cutting her any slack since I think she knows full and well what she is doing, but it’s the reasons behind what she does that makes me wonder if she would be a different type of person had her home life been different growing up. However, I cannot deny, she is gross and disgusting.
Colie on the other hand (and I know you vehemently disagree) is an educated girl who has a lot going for her if she would only be able to see it. Her self-esteem, for whatever reason, is nonexistent and therefore we see the sad girl who throws herself at every guy she encounters “ some nice, such as Corey and some jerks, such as Alex.
Now Alex thinks way too highly of himself. Partly due to the fact that he’s in a relatively confined environment where two of the three female roommates are vying for his affection. I really don’t think he would do as well with the women on a broader scale. For example, if he were on a college campus competing (for women) with other guys, he’d be the low man on the totem pole. But look at who he’s compared to in that house “ Stephen, who has a girlfriend and some issues of his own, Tyrie, who reminds Jenn of someone from her past (and Colie has no interest in him), and of course our resident gay guy, Davis. So who else is left for these girls to compete over? We only have Alex¦.not really anything to write home about except that he’s straight (which I know is up for debate) and single.
To be honest, if he weren’t gay, looks-wise, Davis would get many more women than Alex.
hhmm, touche CMC, touche….
I do think Davis is way more handsome than Alex, but I think Alex does have some skills when it comes to seducing girls with no self esteem.
You’re right when you said Colie is well educated. She has degree, she was brought up in a sheltered environment (compared to Jen), and she does have some social skills, I guess. This is why I hate her more so than Jen. Allow me to explain. You would think someone who had a normal childhood would be, you know, normal. When I saw the first episode, I actually liked Colie. I thought she was down to earth and friendly. But it seems like the more you get to know her, the more ugly she seems (on the outside, but especially on the inside.). I guess my disapointment from her for the way she acted towards Brooke, towards Alex, and especially towards Corey, just fueled my hatred for her, and everyone like her in society.
msu11y28,
Jenn is not pretty unless she has the Crayola people come over to put her face on (I know, it’s a Chris Rock joke). There have been several episodes that have shown that without makeup, Jenn looks like she should be telling riddles to people before allowing them to cross her bridge.
Colie needs therapy, what’s worse is that she kind of reminds me of my roommate’s girlfriend. The only difference is that my roommate is also codependent….they kind of drive me crazy…I should set up cameras in my apartment.
E. Colie isn’t crazy or damaged, E. Colie is spoiled and self-indulgent. She suffers from the same bullshit a lot of spoiled girls with ugly faces, and decent figures suffer from : HUGE ego and LOW self-esteem.
She thinks she’s prettier than she is because guys still want to fuck her, but deep inside she knows she’s not – so she tries to balance out quality with quantity. No guy will ever fulfill her needs, because she needs too much. She’s just going to get more desperate and less attractive as she gets older, and she’ll screw around on anyone she manages to snag.
Jenn is what Jenn is. As strong as Jenn’s personality is, she’s really mostly a follower. I think she attached to Colie because Colie seemed more accessible than Brooke – Brooke is the real deal; she’s got money, culture and education. She’s at the top of the social scale (even with the tantrums), Jenn and Colie are lower-class. I think Jenn’s a slut, I also think there are reasons ANY girl becomes a slut – I just don’t really care because it is a disturbing thing to watch girls debase themselves on TV.
Alex seems like a normal guy to me, I think having his friend there actually pushed him to want to hook up with a woman, ANY woman – that was ALL about the male ego. What I find interesting about Alex, is that he seems to not care or worry about getting involved with Jenn (or anyone), yet he seems almost scared of getting involved with Colie. I think he knows she’s stalker material.
Sometimes he actually seems repulsed by her; it’s like the alcohol dulls his senses enough to let her in a little, but his instincts are still on full alert. If she wasn’t pushing him so hard, and so relentlessly, I don’t think he’d ever even consider her.
I STILL love Brooke, she’s hysterical in ALL senses of the word. I still can’t believe what a sloppy, dirty person Colie is.
Also, for some reason E. Colie’s face is weirdly masculine. When she smiles, or sneers, or tries to look sarcastic she remind me of Chazz Palmintieri in “A Bronx Tale”.
She is really bizarre looking. I actually really find looking at her at all really unpleasant; even with the Joker face I’d rather look at Jenn’s face than E.Colie’s.
Colie really really needs to grow up. She totally ruined a decent relationship with what seemed like a good dude for some lustful obessision with Alex. Corey for all his meatheadedness actually seemed like an okay guy.
I wonder what the hell he (Corey) was saying to Colie in bed that Brooke was so offended. I’m sure it was probably just some dirty talk. Brooke doesn’t seem like she would be uptight about screwing. She was probably just jealous of people getting some.
g-child (#31), Colie never actually slept with Alex. The first night all they did was kiss and sleep in the same bed. Then she told Jenn she felt his penis and it was big so Jenn felt like she had to go test drive it that night. Then in the last episode Alex slept in Colie’s bed but I think he was way too drunk to have sex.
I was just thinking back to the second episode, after Jenn screwed Alex. I thought it was so bizarre, and inappropriate that E. Colie actually pulled up a chair to watch Jenn shower, and the checked her body for sex marks.
That was one of the weirdest things I’ve ever seen. Ever.
Looking back, that was the first indication that E. Colie had absolutely NO sense of anyone else’s boundaries. Brooke seems really rigid in that regard, so E. Colie must just drive her up the wall. I would probably lose it if I had to share space with that freak too.
Chee-Z, I know exactly what you mean and that’s a really good observation. I remember thinking at the time that it would be uncomfortable for a close friend or family member to do that, let alone a new roommate I met 48 hours ago.
Brooke is the new sane?
Chee-z always make good observations.
I actually think Alex felt sorry for Colie in the past episodes, but lost patience and, well, we saw what he did in the tub. but he even said sorry when Colie told him to shut the f up. He was way too nice to her in the tub. If she said that to anyone else, like if it was Tyrie or maybe even Davis, I bet you she wouldve gotten yelled at.
Ok not to get all “feminist” on everyone, but it really bothers me that everyone calls Jen a slut (which I agree with), but Alex is just considered a normal guy. Alex is a slut too, if not more so because just a few episodes back he was having sex with that other girl (Stephanie was it?)and then Jen, probably the next day (who knows with the editing) and it’s not fair that women are put down for the same thing that men do. Of course this will never change but I had to get that off my chest.
I agree with you Chee-Z-TeeVee Addict, about the time Colie stood outside the shower and examined Jen. That was beyond weird, and it made me feel uncomfortable just to watch.
I agree with you dmbislove, and I’m the one who stated earlier that Alex was just a normal guy. Unfortunately, in practical day to day living guys get away with it and women don’t. I don’t know why that is, in the age of STD’s.
Although I WILL say, that if I were living in that situation I wouldn’t touch Alex with a ten-foot pole. His having been with Jenn alone would scare me STD-wise, I mean she’s from a pretty big area and she seems to like rough-trade (despite the whole Alex thing). And his general promiscuity spells high-risk to me. The fact that Colie STILL wants him, says a lot about how little she truly cares about herself.
She should actually be thankful most men find her repulsive, it could actually end up saving her from needing a prescription for Valtrex. Anyway, Colie’s first step toward self-esteem and acceptance should be a hairbrush and a bottle of conditioner. To use in the shower BY HERSELF.
Ecchhh! Everytime I think about that whole shower thing it skeeves me out all over again.
dmbislove, I guess the reason I consider Jenn more of a slut than Alex is the way she disregards her supposed friend Colie’s feelings about the guy and hooks up with him thoughtlessly. She’s more of a slut when it comes to loyalty and integrity. I do agree that Alex is a male slut, but I just consider Jenn less respectable for that reason.
A good Colie-Seinfeld thing would be if she had refused to let Corey break up with her, like George’s girlfriend in that one episode. If she had just said, “No, it’s not happening.”
The reason the “slut” thing is still an issue is because promiscuity is more unusual in women than men. Most men just have a higher sex drive than most women.
If more women were promiscuous, or fewer men were promiscuous, it would not be so noticeable and fewer people would care.
Personally, I don’t find promiscuity attractive in either sex, but maybe I’m just a prude.
Not to take this completely off the subject of the Real World but Ronin614 I have to disagree with you. Maybe men have a higher sex drive but there is most definately a double standard with men and women and sex. I think there are plenty of men and women out there who are promiscuous but we are all brought up to accept that it’s ok for guys to be like that. Women are brought up to feel bad for being sexually active where for men it shows that they are true men. There may be a difference in men and women’s sex drives (I really didn’t bother to research it.) But that is not the reason why women are viewed as sluts and men are not. And if you really think that then I think you should take a look at what’s going on in our society.
I love how totally deluded / obsessed Colie is. Not really a surprise, considering our introduction to her & her feelings for Alex in the premiere. What do you think the chance is that she would actually read the recaps & learn from her ridiculous behavior?
(Cue peals of laughter.)
Ha ha – If she’s reading these boards she’s probably gone all Britney, and shaved her head. Which would actually be a good start on getting rid of that sloppy mess on her head.
I just hope she gets burned enough that she won’t do any challenges. I really can’t stand her, and watching her glom onto veteran cast members would just be sad…
WHat goes around comes around and around and around.
Colie likes Alex. I think Alex likes Colie.
Alex is trying to be a player so he acts like he dont like Colie. Colie really likes alex but thinks he dont like her
so Colie trys everything to get him to like her. she brings home guys from the bar and then from work but that dont work so she thinks hmm I well bring home Corey,THAT WORKS.
Then Alex is hurt.
THen Alex sleeps with Jen. So then I guess he doesnt want Colie.
Colie is screwd! she ruind things with Alex and really ruind things with COrey.
To sum it up Alex hurts Colie, Colie hurts Alex, Alex hurts Colie. Then Colie hurts both Alex and Corey.
Ok now I am sooo tired of hearing this Alex and Colie bull. Move on!
PS
I think that Jen liked alex all a long. THats why her and Colie were so close.
keep your friends close and your enamies closer.
She has just been waiting for her chance to get with Alex again.
g-child:
I wasn’t denying the double standard, I was trying to explain it.
When you are different than your peer group, you will be criticized for it.
That’s all I was saying.
Amen, 1realworldfan, someone is finally calling a spade a spade. You’re not being hateful toward any one person, you’re simply telling it like it is¦Colie and Alex like each other and are making one another jealous by “hooking up” with others. I truly feel that if Alex would commit to Colie, she would commit to him and drop all of these other guys including nice-guy Corey. I’m not saying it would last, but I think she would love to have an exclusive relationship with Alex and he wants her to want that. However he’s selfish so he just doesn’t want to have an exclusive relationship with anyone¦he just wants to have sex. Who better to use and discard but someone who gives off the slut vibe? Of course, it’s that Raiderette, Jenn.
I absolutely do not understand the animosity everyone has toward Colie. She is hurting in so many ways and her “friend” Jenn is a backstabber. There is no one in that house she can trust.
@#53 and 55: You guys do have a point when you say they’re both trying to make each other jealous. I think Alex finally got jealous when he saw that Corey was better looking than him… But you guys make it sound like Colie’s the victim.
This is how it all went down. Alex admitted to liking Colie in the beginning and vise versa. But Jen, being the trashy whore that she is, seduced a druken Alex, and made him have sex with her. If it was Brooke who did that, Alex wouldve fucked Brooke. He fucks anyone who wants to fuck him. He never goes in for the kill. He’s charming (in that sort of non-manly, push-over way)(his basically a straight gay guy. Looking and acting like a homosexual, but attracted to girls.) so some girls (sluts with low self esteem but wannabe prudes) are drawn to him.
Now, keep in mind, Alex did apoligize for hooking up with Jen. He even said that he has feelings for her, and so that is why they started doing things together in the first several episodes. I really think Alex liked Colie. Now if Colie didn’t bring home that strange guy from the bar, and adam from outward bound (2 average looking guys), Alex would still be considered the bad one since he fucked Jen. But since Colie initiated the war with him, he just took part in her game, and won.
To be honest, if Colie didn’t bring the 3 guys in the house, I wouldnt have said anything bad about her (even though I’m annoyed by her, but everyones imperfect. And again, I did think she was an ok person in the beginning.)But the main reason I hate her so much is the way she treated Corey.
dmbislove- what’s wrong with being a feminist?
Roleepolee- how the fuck do you “make someone have sex with you?” Did she rape him? Uh, no, he chose to have sex with her because he wanted to. She didn’t make him do anything.
Also, Alex is not charming at all…Can we take a look at the girls he’s hooked up with in the house so far? Some random bar girl, Colie, Jen…how does that make him charming?
Furthermore, why do you think Alex really liked Colie? Do you think there’s anything even remotely likable about her? And don’t you remember how he totally didn’t care when she brought that Nick guy home from the bar?
roleepolee, I am 100% with you in that Colie was disrespectful of Corey’s feelings. However, a person cannot help who they have feelings for. Emotions, no matter how twisted, are what they are and for some reason she seems to like that twit, Alex.
She may realize one day that she blew it with Corey but it could be too late if it isn’t already.
I’m just having a hard time seeing the hatefulness toward her in all of these posts based on her insecurities (with the exception of you, roleepolee, because you’re open to understanding her). We just don’t know what got her to a place where she so desperately seeks male attention.
Regardless of whether or not she comes from a good family, things happen in a person’s life that affects their future relationships. She’s not a bad person, just very confused.
#58: I’m not saying Jen raped him. I’m saying that Jen made the first move and that without her putting herself all over him in the beginning in the first place, he wouldnt have had sex, or even make out with her. Think Monica Lewinski and Bill Clinton. Do you really think he wouldve commited “sexual relations” with that women if she hadn’t pour herself all over him? He fell into temptation because he’s a guy. She’s repulsive, but as long as she had a vagina, he would do her, cause that’s how guys are.
Alex not being charming is your opinion. I think he’s somewhat charming, and I did say that he would only attract girls with low self esteem. Combine that with his above average looks, and you have yourself a player.
I think Alex did like Colie. Why the hell did he keep dragging the whole situation with her in the past before Corey arrived? You make Colie sound like she’s some sort of horrific sub-human being with no likable qualities. She’s somewhat likable, and she does have a girl next door look to her. Yeah her hair is a mess, but with the proper make up and a comb, she’s not that bad looking. Again, this is just my opinion. I’m not a fan of her’s in any way shape or form, but I don’t consider her to be like some devil worshiper. She is human, and like CMC said (thanks CMC), I’m trying to understand her. I do feel pity for her, especially after this episode.
E Colie is a whiney, needy, selfish crybaby who uses people. It’s not for me to judge. But if it was for me to judge, that’s what I would have to say.
E. Colie is a manipulative, pathetic mess. She is cruel when it suits her, and when the tables get turned she falls apart.
She lacks appropriate boundaries, and her sense of entitlement in the house is completely ridiculous. E. Colie is used to getting what E. Colie wants, whether it’s ok with the people she is sharing space with or not.
Alex had an initial attraction to E. Colie in the first few HOURS they knew each other. By day 2, he was VERY CLEAR that he was not interested in E. Colie to any significant degree, and was very straight-forward with her about that. He further illustrated his intentions by sleeping with Jenn, and even though he felt bad about hurting Colie, he did not feel bad about sleeping with Jenn.
E. Colie responded by trying to make him jealous by bringing a random guy home, she was again MANIPULATING the situation. Alex really didn’t care. Repeat with Adam. If she was REALLY interested in these guys why not conduct those “dates” away from the house? BTW – She was not that interested in Adam, or she would have been all over him.
Alex brings home a girl he met, and was attracted to. What’s wrong with that? Colie felt it was perfectly OK to immediately embarrass Alex (“Some girls called you”), humiliate the girl by mocking her publicly, and essentially drive the girl out of the house in the most denigrating way possible. Colie is a bitch, and she’s acting like a fucking stalker – If she can’t have Alex, no one can. At least not without her interference.
Her treatment of Brooke is under-handed, undermining and disrespectful. She’s subtle enough, that Brooke can’t react to her until enough bullshit accumulates that she just explodes. Brooke knows Colie is a bully and a manipulator, that’s why she hates her. Jenn is starting to become more aware of Colie’s controlling behavior, and now she’s beginning to resent it too.
When Colie doesn’t get what Colie wants she rages, cries, manipulates, bullies or goes for pity. She functions on the level of a 6 year-old. Why does anyone here think it’s OK for her to USE her boyfriend’s feelings for her to manipulate Alex? Then when she realizes that Alex REALLY doesn’t want her (Yeah, Brett was pretty straight with her about that), she feels betrayed by her boyfriend. What a c*nt.
How many times has Alex through words, actions and 3rd parties told this girl “I DON”T LIKE YOU LIKE THAT!”? EVERY episode pretty much, and then she takes advantage of him when he’s drunk – and he regrets it every time. Seriously, if Colie had a penis, how acceptable would that behavior be?
Also, Alex and Jenn are CLEARLY attracted to each other. They fight, hang out and have sex like people who are attracted to one another. The frustrations they have with each other, are because they are both trying to deny any attraction because of E. Colie, and her wrath. If E. Colie could get out of her own way, she would realize this and move on. You don’t own someone after a make-out session – unless you’re in 6th grade.
“I absolutely HATE her!” – Brooke. I really can’t top that Brooke, because I feel the same way.
Yeah, so anyway, that’s why we don’t like her. (Thanks, Chee-Z)
I loved this episode!
The scene in the hot tub where Alex didn’t entertain Colie’s advances in front of everyone cracked me up!! She looked like she was feeling pretty crunchy on the inside after that!
Thanks Chee-z. I almost felt a little TOO sorry for E.Colie! (haha, love the way you constantly keep calling her this nickname.)Thanks for waking me up! Everything you said is 100% true.
Monica Lewinsky isn’t repulsive.
Conclusions I came to at work:
1. If I had to live with Brooke, I would kill myself.
2. If I had to live with Colie, I would kill myself.
3. If I had to live with Jen, I would probably not kill myself.
4. If I had to live with Stephen, I would kill myself.
5. If I had to live with Alex, I would gouge my eyes out.
6. If I had to live with Tyire, I would probably not kill myself.
7. If I had to live with Davis, I would probably not kill myself.
Seriously, has PJ moved into the house?? He’s ALWAYS there…
I thought it was great how Colie ended up on some random girl’s lap in the hot tub telling her all about how Corey had left… and the look on her face that said “You are a crazy girl, get off of me!”
CMC (#59) – I totally agree with you. Colie is like a lot of girls in college who just need a few years in the “real world” (after college) to mature a little bit. I don’t think she’s manipulative or a bully, she’s just boy-crazy and a lot of 21-22 year olds are like that. I just don’t see why everyone hates her so much.
That said, I also don’t see why so many people on this board love Brooke… she adds to the entertainment factor but most of the time she exaggerates the truth and to me, it seems that she’s the one who’s looking to pick fights for no reason. Maybe it’s because she’s the only one in the house who hasn’t gotten any yet.
KermitGirl, that’s actually part of the reason that I hate Colie. She is like so many desperate college girls out there. She’s not only cruel, attention-seeking, and unattractive, but she’s also utterly dull. There’s nothing unique, endearing, or interesting about her.
She reminds me why guys don’t go for girls like her unless they’re wasted, desperate, or too dumb to know better.
I’m repeating my own quote:
Sorry, but I really don’t think someone who does that is immature, or just hasn’t had enough “real world” experience. Imposing on someone in such an intimate and personal act is bizarre, and clearly illustrates a total lack of normal boundaries, and an EXTREME sense of entitlement.
E. Colie crosses boundary lines, and violates other roommates’ personal space(s) with regularity. She knows better, she just doesn’t care.
She’s not any more immature than the other roommates, there is no justification for her behavior. I think it’s pretty simple: E. Colie wants what E. Colie wants, and if E. Colie doesn’t get what E. Colie wants; E. Colie will whine, wheedle, cry, rage, bully and manipulate the people and situations around her until she either A) gets what she wants, or B) embarasses or humiliates the person/people denying her.
I think she’s one weird bitch. If anyone ever lurked around while I was in the shower I would feel totally violated. If anyone pulled the crap on me that she pulls on Alex, again I’d feel violated – Just what is OK, or normal about that?
Thanks for being so open-minded KermitGirl22. I don’t see why Colie is so hated either. I think a few people get going on something and it’s like wildfire, it gains momentum. Everyone has to jump on the bandwagon of hating Colie. I haven’t lost hope for you, roleepolee¦I can tell by your posts, you’re not a hateful person, but it’s easy to get caught up in the popular opinion of others. I will definitely admit, these posts are overwhelmingly anti-Colie.
Am I saying Colie is without fault? No, of course not, but she’s human. She’s no different than a lot of girls her age all over the country. She’s not malicious or mean- spirited. I will say that she’s confused by these mixed messages that Alex sends. He’s messing with her mind. One day he likes her and the next day he’s pushing her away.
I’m glad that Corey is letting her go. Because as nice a guy as he is, he recognizes that Colie has this fixation with Alex (for the life of me I can’t see why). As hard as it was for Corey to end that relationship, he loves her and respects himself enough to get out of it so they both can move forward.
Not malicious or mean-spirited? So calling Alex’s friend (Stacey?) fat while she was in hearing range, and then loudly making fun of her while she was having sex with Alex isn’t malicious or mean-spirited? Wow. While you’re busy accusing the board of having an anti-E. Colie bias, you might want to review your motives for defending her to the point of turning a blind-eye to her foul behavior.
She is also very nasty to Brooke, and Brooke’s being histrionic has nothing to do with it. Brooke is reacting to how E. Colie TREATS her, and has stated that twice.
I don’t get why you think Alex is giving her mixed messages, he has told her on multiple occasions he doesn’t want a relationship with her. E. Colie pressures him non-stop when they are drinking, and then when he responds he always regrets it the next day. E. Colie is responsible for her own actions, if she left Alex alone like he wants her to, she would find the situation pretty easy to understand – HE DOESN’T LIKE HER LIKE THAT!
Also, how is E. Colie’s total lack of empathy, and blatant use of her (now ex) boyfriend not malicious or mean-spirited? If an SO pulled that shit on me, I would find it VERY hurtful and mean-spirited!
Also, I’m not quite sure why you think you’re more open-minded than most of the other poster’s – you seem as entrenched in your viewpoint as anyone else. So, I guess anyone who agrees with you, or appears to is open-mided, and those of us that don’t aren’t? Uh, okaaaay….
Just for the record, I’m not a hateful person either, which is why I find E. Colie so utterly offensive. I find her to behave rather hatefully and disrespectfully toward others. BTW – what loser sorority were you two in?
The fact that she is “no different than a lot of girls her age all over the country” is very, very depressing and no excuse. I’m sure it’s been said a lot of times, but she’s malicious while acting like the victim, and no matter how “open minded” you are to her case, that makes her either a manipulative bitch, or an stupid bitch.
Yeah, I’ve got to agree with Chee-z and the rest of the E Colie haters. Being the RW nut that I am, I watched this episode 1 more time, and I finally decided to watch the aftershow, even though I knew I was going to regret it. Seriously, no offense to MYL (he’s doing his best, I know), but the aftershow is really boring. The only fun episode was when Brooke was on, and that’s because Brooke actually answers the questions that she’s given in a way that we can understand. Whenever someone else is on, it is so boring and filled with nonsense, I can’t stand myself to watch it. And if you’re still on Colie’s side after watching the aftershow, I question your sanity. She basically acts like a victim, and instead of telling the truth and giving words of advice to other troubled young girls who watch the show, she acts like a brat and is defensive towards the questions that were asked. I tried to be sympathizing towards her, but I just can’t. It’s like trying to support the war in Iraq. It’s almost impossible to do.
Ha ha roleepolee!
Comparing E. Colie to Iraq is pretty funny, and you’re right she is a totally convoluted disaster! LOL!
I don’t actually, personally hate E. Colie – and I mostly like these boards because armchair analyzing reality tv nutjobs is entertaining for me – but I really don’t see very many redeeming qualities in her.
I felt the same way about Tyler from Key West, Sarah from Philly, and Leah from Paris (among MANY others); they walk into an unknown situation, without really knowing anyone and target whomever they feel is a weak link. I think MTV psychologically profiles certain personality types specifically because they will polarize the rest of the cast. That’s why I find this show endlessly fascinating and entertaining (I know, I’m a simpleton!).
The most amazing part of it is, these people truly believe that they are going to be portrayed and received positively, and when they’re not – is it due to how they acted, or what they said? No, never – It’s ALWAYS the evil editing job.
The editors are condensing footage and video to encapsulate the personalities of the casts. I personally believe what they are capturing is fairly accurate, despite the fact that it is heavily edited. The producers are not manufacturing characters out of thin air, they’re working with what the cast members are giving them. And what E. Colie is giving is giving them is pretty ugly.
I can’t believe how hateful and lacking in compassion you can be and I refuse (respectfully) to adopt your points of view. I don’t know why you single out Colie as the “ugly” one since that entire household can all be very nasty. I personally think that for whatever reason, Colie is very needy (I’ve never denied that) and that is why she latches on to all of these guys. She most likely attached herself to Alex because he is the one guy she likes with whom she currently resides. So he’s the one constant (albeit the wrong guy) in her life.
With respect to her being manipulative, I disagree. She is just living her life and looking for love and you can’t seem to understand it’s as simple as that. Yes, she’s got issues, but Chee-Z-TeeVee Addict, you take such delight in exploiting her weaknesses which I don’t understand. I don’t think I have the only point of view that matters; I just refuse to show the nastiness that you do when commenting on these people.
I’m not asking you to, nor do I expect you to adopt my views. I don’t lack compassion, I just don’t have it for people who appear not to have it themselves.
I also haven’t singled E. Colie out; I felt the same level of disgust at Tyrie’s scene with Davis. And I’m no fan of Jenn’s either.
E. Colie signed herself up for a show with a 17 season history, and should have known better – I believe she is totally aware of what she’s putting forth, because that is who she is. She’s not a nice person, she’s not a considerate or respectful person, and she demands that people (she barely knows, really) cater to her neediness.
I think you’re responses to my postings are actually bordering on personal attacks, which I can’t quite figure out because we don’t know each other. I’M not the one on TV, you are basing your opinions about me as a person on very limited information. What exactly is your investment in E. Colie anyway?
I can see that you don’t engage in nastiness about the show, because you (quite inappropriately I might add) reserve that for the posters who dare to challenge your opinion.
I don’t like E. Colie. I think she’s a mean-spirited, petty, controlling bitch. I have yet to see evidence of anything else. I also think you might actually know her, and that’s why you are so emotional about how most people here are responding to her.
If you don’t know her, than you are becoming overwrought over a person you don’t know, on a show that is produced for ENTERTAINMENT. Maybe you shouldn’t take it so seriously.
I think she’s a bitch, you think she’s not. I really couldn’t give a damn either way – I’m on this site because I find it entertaining to (amateur) analyze the poor bastards who put themselves on shows like the RW. And lucky for me, E. Colie is a one-woman wave of crazy.
Anyway, as much as I appreciate your concerns regarding my character, I’m all set – thanks anyway.
But if you have any suggestions for dealing with my TVgasm/Reality TV addiction – I’m ALL ears. LOL!
I can’t beleive you CMC. How can you still defend Colie? Did you watch the aftershow?! I want to hear your opinions on Colie after you see the aftershow.
Geez Chee-Z, I must have touched a nerve because you sure are defensive. You’re absolutely right, you can analyze these people in any way you see fit and far be it from me to have an opinion of my own that completely differs from yours.
You’ve made your point, you think Colie is a bitch and I think she’s got issues that are far deeper than simply bitchiness. We disagree, but I don’t think it warrants the kind of hostility that I’m getting from you.
I’m not taking this show as anything other than a something I watch on Wednesday night and discuss on this site. To be honest, I’ve refrained for many weeks from stating my opinion about Colie because I knew I would get a lot of flack and quite frankly I knew you would be the spearhead.
Well at least you STARTED with an open mind! LOL! And I’m actually very flattered that you found me intimidating – BOO! Ha ha ha…
Well, this is obviously really stupid. Plus I think you might be confused. And retarded. And since I actually DON’T pick on retards (it’s a matter of principle, you know! LOL!), I’ll try not be so scaaaarrrrryyy!!!
I’m not scared of you. I just wanted to discuss the show in a mature fashion. I realize that not everyone agrees with me and that’s okay. But I think I should be able to voice my own opinion without being called names and having to endure your little diatribes.
I just watched the Aftershow w/MYL.
I forgot how much I love Zach. Some of the viewer questions were pretty hilarious too. I’m going to have to text into that next time!
Cheezy Addict,
First of all, when the fuck did Sarah from Philly attack whoever she perceived to be the weakest? I don’t recall that ever happening…
Also, “She is also very nasty to Brooke, and Brooke’s being histrionic has nothing to do with it. Brooke is reacting to how E. Colie TREATS her, and has stated that twice. ”
Okay, so what was Brooke reacting to when Tyrie made that joke about the ghetto, then IMMEDIATELY after that said just kidding, I’m sorry. No one was treating her badly, she’s just an extremely irrational and worthless human being. How anyone can defend her is seriously beyond me.
By no means am I on Colie’s side, and I also agree that “she’s no different from other girls her age” is depressing a poor excuse. I’m 22, and I don’t act like that…I’m 22, and I didn’t act like that even when I was immature…I’m 22, and I think she’s embarassing.
“Colie has this fixation with Alex.” Nooo, Colie has a fixation on anyone who is within a 1-mile radius, is straight, white, and has a penis.
Seriously, how did she manage to get Corey?!!?!
Rock Star -
Sarah was really pretty nasty to Mel, and used pretty much any excuse to view her in the worst light possible. She actually admitted on the reunion show that Mel had been a good friend, and that she had not treated her well.
Sarah resented Mel for relaying info about MJ not wanting Sarah to sleep in his bed, and being straight with her about the three British guys she tried to pick up in Fiji (?Tahiti?). She bitched about her constantly, and made it a pretty hostile living environment for Mel. Not that Mel was perfect, she was pretty PA – but I have yet to see anyone (other than Zach) on these shows who is.
I’m not saying Brooke isn’t a whacko, I’ve said that all along – I just think she’s funny. I was talking specifically about her blow-up at E. Colie – that was coming for awhile, and it wasn’t just about one incident, it was cumulative. Stephen also said in his confessional that trouble had been brewing, and indicated that Brooke was fed up with how E. Colie had been treating her.
Just for the record, I don’t think anyone in the Denver cast could be a posterchild for mental health. The funny thing is, these screwballs are going to lecturing to college students on real issues.
Also, while Brooke is clearly not the most stable person – she’s not mean. I think E. Colie is mean, that’s why I dislike her so much – the way she treated Alex’s bar hook-up was really vicious. Calling someone fat, making mocking sounds, all within hearing range – it’s cruel.
Rock Star (whooo!)- There is nothing wrong with being a femenist. The only reason I really said that is because I don’t take these boards very seriously (unlike CMC) so I just wanted to preface the statement so that it was viewed as an observation not that I wanted to debate with someone.
#48 antebellum,
“Turn your key Maura. TURN YOUR KEY.”
To quote dmbislove, who doesn’t take these boards too seriously:
“Ok not to get all ˜feminist’ on everyone, but it really bothers me that everyone calls Jen a slut (which I agree with), but Alex is just considered a normal guy.”
Oh no, you don’t take these boards too seriously. Yeah right!
Were you trying to make a point? Because you failed miserably.
You can take it however you want. I’m just calling it like I see it as you felt the need to in your post.
Stop being an instigator dmbislove. The fact that you’re pointing out that CMC is taking it seriously shows that YOU’RE the one who’s taking it seriously. I don’t think CMC said anything that makes him (her?) come across as serious/angry…
I don’t see dmbislove as the instigator here. People come here to state opinions, and some don’t like the trend of the comments.
CMC has been the instigator, because CMC has been making veiled, and sometimes not so veiled statements about how other’s (mainly me) are seemingly strong-arming the rest of the board to agree with the anti-E. Colie point of view.
As much as I would love to have that kind of control over other people’s minds and opinions, I don’t. The reason I like this site is because the majority of posters are smart, funny and understand the fact that this is all about the entertainment – addressing serious issue within that context makes it more interesting.
I find CMC’s attitude that most of you are sheep following a few of us with strong opinions to be incredibly insulting. I certainly don’t think that, I think we all view things from our own perspectives and through our own personal experiences. Even though I am not a fan of E. Colie I have never disrespected anyone else’s opinion about her – DISAGREED, yes. But that’s the nature of discourse, isn’t it?
I think CMC gets some sort of psychological “payoff” by acting as a polarizing, and incendiary influence on the boards. CMC, in my opinion has turned this particular board into a rather nasty experience, and that is what dmbislove might be reacting to.
I have decided, in regards to CMC, to ignore them from this point on. I find no entertaiment, value or point of interest in continuing this verbal catfight. I’m not interested in changing anyone’s opinions – I’m only here to state my own, if people find that threatening I suggest they don’t read my posts. I am opinionated, and I have a low tolerance for bullshit.
PS – dmbislove – I hear ya’ sister!
Let’s just blame all this on Colie. If it wasn’t for her, we wouldnt be arguing.
Compared to Colie, Jenn and Brooke….i think Alex is a normal guy. He’s just doing what mostly any guy would do. And I don’t think he likes Colie or ever had any feelings for her. He chose to hang out with Jenn on one of the first episodes instead of going to sleep in Colie’s bed like she asked him too. Colie keeps saying that Alex has feelings for her….she’s deranged. When she said that Alex was only hooking up with Jenn to make her jealous….i laughed out loud. Someone needs to show her the light. I don’t feel sorry for her at all. She’s been told numerous times by other people that Alex doesn’t like her and she refuses to believe it. She’s a retard seriously….she walks like one, talks like one and most definetely thinks like one.
I didn’t really like Brooke before either….but after she told off Jenn and Colie, she has now become my hero. =)
Doesn’t Colie look like she could have bad breath?? I dunno why, but everytime I see her getting all up close to someone or kissing someone I just picture her breath stanky. haha. ok, maybe it’s just me.
LOLx2!!! I felt the exact same way jozeyg! I was hoping someone would bring that up. ^^
Wow my first Tvgasm fight! Honestly Roleepolee I was just joking because of the debate that was going on (although if asked to choose I would defintely side with Chee Z).
Jezeyg-I totally said that to my friends the other day, about the bad breath thing. I feel the exact same way!
All I did was state that I felt differently about Colie’s behavior (than the majority of posters) because I attributed it to her emotional issues. Never did I intend for it to become such a nasty debate (civil debates work for me) accompanied by name-calling tirades.
How Cheez-Z is finding malice in my posts is baffling and I really don’t care if she ignores me. I’m not out to change anyone’s opinion either. I expressed my own observations which happened to differ from her own (and frankly most everyone else’s) and she flies off the handle. I predicted her reaction and yes, I held off from posting my views because of it. But I ultimately decided that I have a right to voice my thoughts and I’m not sure how that makes me an instigator.
okay, then it’s not just me. LOL
dmbislove and jozeyg – Count me in on that bad breath thing – reference my comments from a previous post – LOL!
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CMC, you got to admit that Colie does look like she has bad breath. We can all agree on that, right?
I mean, when she speaks with that deep raspy voice, I can see the green steam comming out of her mouth, oh, and the messy hair doesn’t help either, not to mention, her confused look whenever she speaks.
Anyone else who wants to defend Colie, I just want to say, I’m sorry in advance for my mean remarks. Colie just brings out the worst in me. SORRY!
Arrghh!! MacBook malfunction!
…and you too roleepolee, LOL! Stinky breath, indeed!
haha…this is too funny.
and why does she always have to get right up in someone’s face? She does that to Alex all the time!
She is one of those “Close Talkers”! (Seinfeld reference)
With “Man Hands”! LOL!
Rolee Polee, how the hell was dmbislove the instigator in that situation?
I take it back…Feel better?
CMC, I have to agree that it’s difficult to have a minority opinion on this site sometimes. That’s why I hardly ever post. I remember being attacked for some dissenting opinion quite awhile ago, and it turned me off from commenting. Case in point would be the last Hills recap– people were going crazy! It makes TVGasm an unpleasant place sometimes.
And with regards to the male vs. female promiscuity argument, I noticed that one response stated that Alex was gross, too– but only because he’d slept with Jenn. I highly doubt the girls are any more disease-infested or whorish than the guys are, but they are constantly called trashy sluts for engaging in the same behavior.
was it just me or didn’t it seem like e.colie was fake crying for the cameras during the phone call where corey dumped her crazy arse?
she kept scrunching up her face and rubbing her eyes, but i never saw a single tear. i’m sure it sucked for her to be the dumpee and not the dumper, but i think that corey had her pegged when he said that he was giving her the freedom to do what she wants…which is to be alex’s stalker.
That doesn’t really answer my question
People on these boards usually respectfully disagree. But when someone condescendingly attacks another person’s viewpoint, they shouldn’t be surprised if it comes back at them.
And, by the way, I’m a big girl now, and I can’t stand E Colie. I’m quite certain it’s not peer pressure.
I was trying to be discreet and non accusatory in #112, but apparently I was too good at it. I’m talking about you, CMC.
WOW some of you are way too sensitive and need to get over it. No one can win or lose in an arguement like that.
Anyway, I wish MTV would play reruns of old real world seasons like they used to. Instead they play some losers going on cheesy dates with a girls fat mom. I’d really like to see the New Orleans or Hawaii season again, they were so funny.
Good point, and well taken, TakingBackSunday. I retract my last post. Peace.
TakingBackSunday-
I think I remember seeing that awhile ago MTV sold all of it’s old real world re runs rights to some 3rd tier network like the WB or UPN (I guess now the CW), so they can’t show all those awsome episodes. Whatever channel they sold them to at least used to show the real world late at night. They probably don’t anymore, what a waste!
Thanks parttimecynic, for your empathetic views.
I’m feeling the same way about being turned off from posting. I knew certain remarks were coming when my comments on Colie dissented from popular opinion, but I wasn’t out to wage a war on anyone.
With respect to you, Miss Information, I have never been disrespectful about other people’s viewpoints. But I did find it interesting that you had to submit a second post to clarify that you were referring to me in the first one.
I concur with Miss Information(truly)…thanks for being the voice of reason, TakingBackSunday.
You’re right, some of us (me) are probably oversensitive and nobody is going to change anyone else’s opinion with endless rebuttals.
CMC, I caught some heat for posting against Chee-Z, so I felt the need to clarify. But TBS is so right, and personal attacks are uncalled for, (unless, of course, they are really witty.) (Or directed at ppl foolish enough to volunteer for reality TV.) (IMHO) The internet allows ppl to have an anonymous voice, and sometimes that makes for ugliness. I’ve found this site to be an exception, in terms of resorting to juvenile insults. For the most part. My apologies. Group hug.
Miss Information, no apologies necessary.
The lack of personal attacks and insults combined with some very insightful observations by the people who post was what originally brought me to this site also. I still feel that way. Sometimes we get so caught up in our own perceptions that we have a hard time understanding why everyone doesn’t feel the same way we do. Guilty as charged, here.
Thanks for extending the olive branch. At the risk of sounding sappy¦a big group hug back at you and kumbaya to all!
What a great display of courtesy and respect. Why can’t we all just get along? We’re all fans of B-side, this website and the RW, so it would be ironic and a waste of time to argue and bicker, am I right, Rock Star? I’m sorry if I said some things that seemed outlandish to you. I take back the statement of dmb being an instigator (I was just trying to defend CMC since he/she was being criticized so much for his (her?) opinions on Colie). If you were bothered or offended to any of my comments, I’m sorry.
Kumbaya my fellow Tvgasmers, Kumbaya
TakingbackSundays – that is a great point, I wish they would do that. There’s a lot of RW season’s I missed because I didn’t have cable back in the day and it’d be nice to be able to catch those episodes and to see how different the show is now. I think someone mentioned though that it probably won’t happen because other networks have bought it or something. Anyways, with B-Side gone, it’s gonna be some tough shoes to fill…so sad..I don’t know if I’ll quite get the same enjoyment from this season.
*With a high pitched kazakhstanian accent* “WHHAAAT?”
B-side gone? since when?
I think you guys might be referring to J-Unit leaving, he announced it on The Hills forum.
I think B-Side mentioned he was going to Italy for a week or so, but as far as I know he’s not leaving TVgasm. You may want to check the Forums, those guys usually have the current scoop – or can probably answer your questions.
Peace CMC.
WOW – Sorry guys, I was wrong. I just started reading The Hllls recap and realized B-Side announced his departure.
I am SO bummed out! I am so going to miss you B-Side. Thank you for the many hours of good laughs and sheer enjoyment of reading your recaps – you will definitely be greatly missed.
Best of luck on your future endeavors, you are an amazingly talented and funny person.
Peace and goodwill to you too, Cheez-Z. I know that sounds like a Christmas card but it’s sincerely heartfelt.
Thanks for your support, roleepolee!
Now that B-Side is departing (sniff!), we’re all going to need each other for support.
TakingBackSunday, you’ve brought harmony back to the boards. Thanks!
Glad I could help! I love reading all the funny comments you guys leave, rather then the pointless fighting.
And that really sucks donkey nuts if it’s true that they sold the rights to the old episodes. I’d really love to see Ruthie nose dive to the floor in the bar from alcohol poisoning the very first episode in Hawaii. Then be thrown into a shower by her roomates. Ahh the memories…
I know it’s hard to believe but yes ’tis true the departure of our beloved B-Side is real.
The rest of ya’ll need to stay regardless because if I can’t at least read the comments to these shows, I’ll go out of my mind. Especially CheezTeeVee & RoleePolee.
Hey, thanks cbgb. I can think of one reason I’m glad Colie’s in the RW is the fact that we can come together and share our hatred for her. It’s amazing how one person’s nasty retarded behavior can bring so many cool people together. (Sorry CMC, if I was again, too harsh. I said this before, but, she just brings out the WORST in me!)
It’s like if Simon from AI says he’s going to leave the show. It’s just not gonna be the same without B-side!
I love your recaps, B-side [also the hills ones]. You’re funny as hell.
And yes, I laughed when Collie tried to move in and Alex just backed away. I find Collie very annoying.