RHOBH Reunion: Frasier’s Fault

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   roger
   Posted January 28, 2011 at 1:08 am

   camille’s an asshole.

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   roger
   Posted January 28, 2011 at 1:22 am

   “dali drama”. love ya, flipit.

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   roger
   Posted January 28, 2011 at 1:25 am

   camille is an asshole.

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   Satchels of Gold
   Posted January 28, 2011 at 3:03 am

   Flipit, another recap that had me howling. I usually never comment, but, I had to this time b/c of the videocast. I’ve been meaning to comment on Bside, but I figured I might as well do it here. One of the reasons that the real housewives is such entertainment for me is because of the one-two punch of the show itself, and then the glorious recaps that follow. So imagine my utter delight when to my surprise there was suddenly a video of you and Ben discussing the show. It was, to be frank, a beautiful meeting of worlds. The only thing that would have made it better would have been Richard Lawson in the background elaborating on his back story for the countess. At any rate, Camille is still an ahole, Taylor is quickly proving to be the absolute worst, Kim is almost definitely an alcoholic, but damn if her complete fucking weirdness isn’t sort of endearing; although I think a lifetime of her shit would probably would probably get old quick.I mean, all I have to think about is how many different men her oldest kid has seen come and go as father figures in her life – at least four, including her actual father – and Kim gets put into perspective for me. I still love Kyle, and maybe that makes me a cold hearted bitch, but I do. And Lisa, love her too, I mean you have to admire someone who so casually says so much shit straight to peoples faces and never gets called on it.

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   Where's My Coffee?
   Posted January 28, 2011 at 4:31 am

   Thank you for getting this up so quickly Flipit!

   Gaah!!! I get so annoyed. Andy NEVER rolls with the follow up questions that the viewers are dying to know. I swear, if he can’t pretent it came from a rude viewer, he’s too chicken to say it.

   I wish Kim had had a chance to read these boards before filming the reunnion. We’d have given her plenty of comebacks, and girl would be prepared. But ya know, her lack of responses just made Taywhore look ever worse with all her hate smiles and quickly delivered put downs. You’re right Flipit, she’d never pull that crap on Lisa. Or Adrianne. Or Kyle. Oh heck. She’ll suck up (and off) to Russell and then kicks Snowball out on his sorry, fluffy ass because it feels so good to hurt something. Bitch probably puts out poison bird seed and sits in her window and cackles.

   WTF was with slyly asking Kyle if “we” should talk about Kim’s state of mind? WTF??? Who does that??? I actually stood up and said, “F*ck you Taylor.” Nice of Kyle to “have Kim’s back” there. Dish faced bitch. The joy on Taylor’s face when trying to conspire with Kim’s sister to verbally bury Kim was a tad sick. BTW, nice flat hair tonight, Kyle.

   Camille blammed exactly 30% too much on Frasier.

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   Where's My Coffee?
   Posted January 28, 2011 at 4:34 am

   ps, sorry about all the typos. Camille was going through a divorce, so I couldn’t proof that post.

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   kdognatl
   Posted January 28, 2011 at 5:25 am

   Great recap Flipit!! As usual you are awesome!

   Totally agree @ Coffee about when Taylor was asking Kyle if she should say that but I actually said “F*ck you cunt!” Camille is an asshole but so is Taylor. I actually dislike Taylor more than Camille at this point. Damn I wish Kim could articulate herself better. I am totally not satisfied with the questioning Taylor got about her part in stirring the drama. I want Kyle, Lisa, Camille and Ad to be asked what they think of her involvement in it.

   At the beginning of the season I said Ad, Lisa and Kyle were my faves. Sorry Flip, Kyle lost me. I don’t hate her, but she kinda sucks. Lisa and Ad are ok but I don’t love them like I did. Can’t wait for the next part.

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   Snootchy Bootches
   Posted January 28, 2011 at 5:26 am

   I haven’t read the recap yet so I’ll comment on that in a sec, but I just finished watching the reunion. I think Camille came off pretty good. There were a few asshole moments here and there but overall she sounded sincere and not delusional. Kyle on the other hand was a giant cunt. She had her bitch-face on from the first minute of the show. Hate her.

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   sunshine
   Posted January 28, 2011 at 5:41 am

   I actually liked Cam more after watching the reunion. I think Camille and Kim have social anxiety. They both claim to get uncomfortable around people, can’t handle confrontation and act (or tell us) they are shy. It’s why neither can come up with a good comeback. They just mutter and stumble a lot. I see Kim trying to get something out and I am at home cheering for her – but nada.

   I cannot stand Taylor! I saw the clip trying to “out” Kim’s state of mind on the Bravo website a couple of days ago. She is horrible and so is Kyle. All those women drink. Kyle better watch out too, alcoholism is genetic. I imagine Kim must have prescription drug problems or something else other than just being an alcoholic. The way all these broads drink they wouldn’t be throwing so many stones at her. They also keep hinting that it’s “Kim’s story to tell….” Bitches!
   I can’t like Kyle anymore. I look at her and feel disgust. This was filmed before the finale and I wish they wouldn’t do that. Kyle wouldn’t have had her superior “bitch” face on.
   I also wish Cam would have brought up that Kyle should know what soft core porn is called. She just has to ask Paris.
   Great recap Flipit – I disagree about the Cam hate but I was crying laughing and my 3 y.o. kept asking what was so funny. Can’t really explain tvgasm to a 3 y.o., can you? Ha Ha

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    sheesh
    Posted January 28, 2011 at 6:09 am

    @ sunshine…exactly about Paris’s little porn tape. I wonder how Kyle would have reacted if she knew that someone was in a limo giggling over Paris and R Solomon right before they came into her home.

    Kyle is not a good sister at all.

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    ohralphie
    Posted January 28, 2011 at 6:48 am

    I almost found myself liking Camille a tad untill they should clips from the show. What an unmitigated, delusional bitch that woman is. And heres a question — how can Camille honestly defend her shit actions at her dinner party due to comments made **after the dinner party**?! Camille said that the only reason she was mad at the party was because all the girls were making fun of her porn in the limo AFTER the party. Either Medium is THAT good or Taylor made a phone call the next day and tattled. Hhmmmm, which seems most logical to the gasmii?
    I did love Kims new hair – it makes her look younger and more put together. I do wish she was more articulate. And if I’m not mistaken, the reunion happened after filming and Andy did give the women whatever unaired episodes to view prior to filming the reunion. Which would explain Taylors bitch aside about Kims mental state.
    Speaking of the gaping ho – I cannot stand that cunt. I hate her with a passion that was previously reserved for Jill Zarin. That woman is manipulative and a complete jackass. In her case, her outer appearance matches what must pass as her soul.
    I love Lisa! I love that she owns her bitch side, and I love that she doesn’t spare herself from her snide remarks. How refreshing.
    I don’t get the impression that Ad doesn’t like confrontation — I get the distinct impression that she hates the househos and regrets getting involved in this mess. If someone is not coming back next season (if that is even possible with their contracts) I would bet it would be Ad and not Camille. I agree wholeheartedly with Flipit that Camille will back if for no other reason than to show everyone that she is a victim and she is 30% more Christlike then Jesus.
    Anyhoo – loved your recap, Flipit and B-Side isn’t the only handsome bastard recapper on the videocast – XOXO.

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    donna
    Posted January 28, 2011 at 6:59 am

    These shows are all alike. Without Camille v Kyle what would be left? Without Danielle v the other NJ famewhores what would be left? Without Jill v Bethenny what would be left? Without the Salahis v the DC cast what would be left? Without Tamra v Gretchen what would be left?

    A “Nothing Burger” served on a bed of “Boring Lettuce”. Other than their fake feuds, temper tantrums, and shopping expeditions what else is there to film?

    The same stuff over and over with a changing cast of untalented wannabes each angling to be Queen Bee. What used to be “fun” to watch at one time has turned into a repetitive yawnfest.

    So over them.

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    Where's My Coffee?
    Posted January 28, 2011 at 7:09 am

    I disagree that Adrianne hates conflict. You don’t get that high up in business while shrinkling from adversity. Her whole marriage is nothing but petty comflict. She thrives on it.

    But the Maloof isn’t stupid enough to show anything in public. She’s understood how good/bad PR works since early on, and she’s not going to ruin anything now. It will be interesting to see if she stays after Lisa is no longer her neighbor.

    And on a funny note, Adrienne and Paul called 911c for Charlie Sheen?? Hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! That cannot be true. Buahahaaaaaaaaaaa

    F*ck Taylor.

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    Stewinberri
    Posted January 28, 2011 at 7:27 am

    Here is a video on TMZ of Kim “drunk” at the airport

    http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=ffefdf92-220e-4501-a2c9-dbc227810e1e

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    ohralphie
    Posted January 28, 2011 at 7:40 am

    @stewinberri — wow, that’s pretty damning. Kudos to those that guessed pills.
    Remember though – addicts are sad to watch, but are hell to live with.

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    Snootchy Bootches
    Posted January 28, 2011 at 7:51 am

    @Where’s my Coffee?: I disagree. Disliking conflict does not mean you shrink from adversity. She just responds to it differently. Instead of becoming a shrieking harpy like some other big lipped blowfish we all know and hate, she becomes a mediator. But any good mediator knows that right in the middle of the shriek fest is the worst time to try to work it out. Watch her through the season. She doesn’t get involved when the drama is unfolding, but goes later to the individual to try to help them with a resolution. And I think that is why she is probably an excellent business woman.

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    Snootchy Bootches
    Posted January 28, 2011 at 7:52 am

    Oh yeah one other thing, when Camille is talking about them looking at the porno in the limo, she is talking about why she called Faye morally corrupt not what happened at the dinner party. That was said in a talking head at some later point.

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    Stewinberri
    Posted January 28, 2011 at 7:58 am

    Still don’t like Kyle for her public outing of her sister and her disloyalty in the Taylor/Kim debacle. That being said, if Kim truly is half as bad as Kyle suggests, that twitchy bitch is one GOOOOOOD actress. Funny (in an awful way) if she has been the real big bitch in all this. Sorry to those who have had to deal with addicts/addictions. The thought of this does make me truly lol!

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    Snootchy Bootches
    Posted January 28, 2011 at 7:58 am

    @Ohralphie: So taking a pill in public means you are addicted to painkillers? If so, then both my husband and I are addicted to pain killers… even though we don’t take any but do have prescriptions that we have to take. Maybe she is afraid to fly? Oh wait… didn’t KYLE take a pill before flying on the show? Did you call her an addict too? Or what about Lisa who I believe supplied said pill to Kyle? Was she an addict too? Or is she a drug dealer? Yeah… drug dealer. That’s how she affords all those diamonds and shoes!

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    Stewinberri
    Posted January 28, 2011 at 8:11 am

    @Snootchy, I don’t think the pills are the only problem. Airport personnel “identified” Kim as being under the influence of something and she admitted to “cough” ONE cocktail. Big debate about is she or isn’t she a substance abuser. I try to be objective. The video lends credibility to the allegations. As I have said before, still don’t like Kyle for publicly outing her sister. Also question the timing and decision to release a video NOW, which was taped early last summer. Someone is really trying to destroy this woman.

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    RTVFan
    Posted January 28, 2011 at 8:12 am

    “I’m bigger, stronger and I’ll always win”

    Love the Mommie Dearest reference! Looking forward to watching the reunion (and the finale, missed them both).

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    Snootchy Bootches
    Posted January 28, 2011 at 8:22 am

    Yes I understand that, Stewinberri. My comment to Ohralphie was because of his many rants about Kim including the one where he called her a “soul sucking psycho” and other really nasty things because she is an addict. He clearly has a hard on for her being a horrible person based on his own biases from people in his own life. THAT’s why I questioned what he said.

    With regards to that video, first of all it is TMZ so… that says a lot right there so we don’t know how much was edited out which might have made Kim look better. They aren’t in the business of making celebrities look better. But if you look at the video on its own disregarding all of Kyle’s accusations, it has other interpretations. Like this one for example: Kim is at the airport. She is clearly disturbed by two guys who are filming her. She speaks to him. Because we all know she can’t speak clearly in confrontations, she stumbles her words as she always does. She is nervous about them filming her, she may be nervous about the upcoming flight and she takes a pill to relax her. I would not be surprised to know that she has an anxiety disorder because she certainly seems anxious in public situations. The pill relaxes her which may make her seem like she is intoxicated. The video cut off and didn’t show what was said afterwards. They might have said ok and waved her off. I certainly haven’t seen any notices about her being refused boarding on an aircraft (which is what that snippet of film implies) or any arrest for intoxication.

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    Alice
    Posted January 28, 2011 at 8:24 am

    It was probably Kyle who released the video so there was some “evidence” to back up the implication that Kim was a drunk/drug abuser and so by doing somehow excuse her own disgusting behavior. I don’t understand how in the world Kyle seems to mostly be getting a pass. She hypocritcally attacks Kim for not “standing up for her” while sitting back and letting castmates and strangers tear her own sister to pieces. My guess is, she felt inferior to Kim as a child and now relishes the ability to put and keep Kim in her “rightful place”, beneath her. She is utterly and completely dispicable and foul.

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    featherhead
    Posted January 28, 2011 at 8:24 am

    At last we know now why nobody would answer Kim’s phone calls in the limo after the dinner party from hell, they were all too busy googling Camielle’s porn pic’s! Who else here thinks Taylor secretly had Camielle on speaker phone during that limo ride? How else would Camielle know what they were doing?

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    smellymutts
    Posted January 28, 2011 at 8:38 am

    Why does it seem as though Camille is totally apathetic about her husband leaving her? Even Adrienne is crying but we haven’t seen Camille even once get teary eyed, she’s been completely stoic.

    Am I the only one who can’t stand Kim? I just get confused & frustrated watching her! She has no point, no direction in her conversation; I’d be super frustrated with her too if I was her sister!! Although my liking towards Kyle has waned a bit since the finale, I do still like her & totally agree with everything (@)satchels of gold said. Love Lisa & even more, I love when she “tells it like it is” right in front of the women & they don’t even get they’re being put down!! She’s a clever one that lady & still maintains such an elegance about her!!

    Finally: Camille is still an asshole. @where’s my coffee? Loved the comment about proof-reading, I’m totally going to use that one!! For example: I was going to go to the gym today but couldn’t because Camille is going through a divorce. Ugh, so devastating!

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    Ollybeau
    Posted January 28, 2011 at 8:44 am

    God, I wish they’d taped the reunion AFTER the last epidsode aired. I think the tone would’ve been a lot different, as Kyle is no longer looking so great. More people are on Kim’s side, whatever her issues.
    And I doubt Taylor would’ve been so smug last night if she knew viewers dislike her more than Camille now.

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    DKMom
    Posted January 28, 2011 at 8:59 am

    After watching the first part of the reunion I have come to the conclusion that my thooughts on the ladies probably will never change.

    A. Camielle – you are a self absorbed, needy attention wh0re a$$hole. Get some therapy and hopefully you children will not come to hate you for your ways when they get older.

    B. Taylor – The best thing for you to do would be to get that mouth reduction surgery…lmao…maybe then you will be able to keep your trap shut when you shouldn’t be talking.

    C. Kim – Honey, I don’t care if it is pills, drugs or drink….please, please, please get some help. You obviously love and dote on your kids and I am sure they want you around for a long time. It makes me extremely sad to watch you, I wish that I could just give you a hug and help you make everything better.

    D. Kyle – Sigh…I am the big sister and oldest grandchild and it has always been my responsibility to look after my family. I understand Kyle wanting to protect and help her sister and her frustration when what she thinks should be happening does not. However, that being said, I do not condone how she speaks to her sister nor how she behaved in the limo. There is a difference between tough love and being mean.

    E. Adrienne – Love her. The way that Paul and her fight reminds me not only of my husband and myself, but of my parents, grandparents and most of my married friends. With the exception of their wealth, I agree with her that they are the norm, at least in my world.

    F. Lisa – I will always have a fondness for women who tell it how they see it. She might come off as a bit crass or mean girl sometimes, but she always has me in stiches and in reality is my favorite HUMAN cast member.

    And last but not least…Jiggy…all I can say is I love jiggy and we could get rid of A & B, show more Jiggy and the show would be better for it.

    Sorry for the book ~ DKMom

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    Stewinberri
    Posted January 28, 2011 at 9:00 am

    Wish I could find the earlier article regarding this. I believe it was realeased before the show aired. In Camille’s TH she refers to the morally bankrupt Faye Resnick. This was after (allegedly) her castmates sent around an email titled the “morally bankrupt Camille Grammer” which depicted stills from her porn career and included nasty comments.

    This is why I believe some of Camille’s talking heads critizing/trashing Kyle are in response to comments made about Cam’s character in the emails. It is believed Kyle was behind it. They may have been revisiting the emails in the limo after the dinner party from hell.

    Camille’s tales of woe regarding how haaaard she works with that staff of 8, now she’s just gonna have to own or blame on Kelsey.

    http://www.popeater.com/2011/01/06/camille-grammer-porn-career/

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    mere2142
    Posted January 28, 2011 at 9:12 am

    I vote for a new show altogether…the Real Housedogs of BH and DC starring Jiggy and Mother Fuckin’ Ichiban!

    I wish Andy would stop throwing softballs and ask the hard questions of these ladies. Watching him is infuriating because he lets so many of them slide and never give real answers.

    Ahh Camille…I admit you came off looking slightly better last night but I still think you’re an asshole. And Kyle must not know how many people have turned on her to sit there so smug with her bitchface on for the entire reunion. I still love Lisa though. Now that Cedric is really gone, is she accepting applications for a new house guest?

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    marijai
    Posted January 28, 2011 at 9:42 am

    I’m really looking forward to the next part. I want to see what Ken has to say about Cedric and everything being lies. I never trusted Cedric and felt that he was using Lisa. I think Ken saw it too, but didn’t want to upset Lisa until it got to the point where Ken felt Cedric needed to leave regardless.

    Though Cam did come across better last night, she’s still a shit-ass. Taylor is still pathetic and had too much self-tanner on her face. I think Kim needs a life coach, someone that isn’t a family member to help her get herself in order. I think it would help her social anxiety and she could learn to articulate herself better. Still loving Ad and Lisa. And yes, I still like Kyle.

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    sarcasatire
    Posted January 28, 2011 at 10:24 am

    Kyle called Camille delusional and a liar, but is it just me or did she admit to everything Camille said she said in Vegas?

    Camille says that Kyle was talking about filming.
    “I was not!”
    “Yes, Kyle, you were asking me if they were going to film me in Hawaii.”
    “Why wouldn’t I want them to film you?”
    “You asked me why they were going all the way to Hawaii to film me. Then you asked if Kelsey was going. I said no, then you asked me why don’t I take the girls along to film with me.”
    “I did not..you are lying Camille!”
    Andy: “So, what happened, Kyle?”

    “Well, Andy..I asked her where she was going for spring break and she said Hawaii. Then I asked her if Kelsey was going because I didn’t think kelsey was ever going to be filmed for the show. She said no. I mean, who doesn’t take their husbands on spring break. So, then I asked if she was taking any girlfriends because I’m like, is she just going to Hawaii by herself and the kids?? We’d just come from Vegas..”

    Hmmm..all season long, it was made to seem as if their stories were completely different and that Camille had made the whole thing up. Delusional, was the buzz word Kyle used. Now it looks like Camille’s version is the closest to the truth. We are also getting these wonderful side stories that we weren’t privy to all season, of Kyle and co. making fun of camille and it ‘somehow’ always getting back to Camille what was said. (I’m looking at you, Taylor)

    I just find it strange that none of that was shown, so whenever Camille made a comment about Kyle in a talking interview scene, it looked like she was being catty to the uber-nice, never-a-mean-girl, Kyle Richards. Now we see they’d been making fun of Camille the whole time. We also know the talking head interviews are filmed later, so it is possible that Camille learned of these ‘little betrayals’ and her comments reflected such. I just don’t see her as this person who started a conflict, and then squashed it and restarted it in NY, when it’s clear that a little birdie was whispering in her ear everything that was being said about her behind her back. I’m gonna have to give Camille the benefit of the doubt that she was provoked and ridiculed all season and much of it wasn’t shown to us. Doesn’t matter, though. Kyle is showing her true colors this reunion..smug and very hard looking, no? What happened to the vaseline smeared lens that filmed these ladies all season? Last night, they were in HD and it wasn’t pretty. eek!!

    I think Kim was trying to say Taylor was a phony but she said ‘chameleon” and couldn’t really elaborate and we watched Taylor spin it into something positive right before our eyes. We get you, Kimmie..Taylor is a big phony and I love that Lisa doesn’t like her. “I like you dear, just not that much..”

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    sarcasatire
    Posted January 28, 2011 at 10:29 am

    Well, obviously, Kim shops at Costco.

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    Snootchy Bootches
    Posted January 28, 2011 at 11:03 am

    @Sarcas – I think you have it right, my dear. Totally makes sense!

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    Snootchy Bootches
    Posted January 28, 2011 at 11:08 am

    @Sarcas – Um… I meant the first one. No one is surprised that Kim shops at Costco. I’d love to see Camille shopping there but it would be a big deal. She’d have to rent a limo to take her, the 4 nannies, the two kids, the prep cook, the house manager, some handsome kissable guys (for heavy lifting, natch) and possibly the gardener to the Costco. Then Camille will wait in the front wringing her hands about how hard hit she has been with the economy and the divorce and all while the staff shops. Then they can pile back into the limo with a very self satisfied Camille can brag about how she has cut back and shops at Costco to save 17 cents on Oreos. And blame Kelsey.

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    nyccookie
    Posted January 28, 2011 at 11:31 am

    Maybe I was watching a different show, but I did not feel that Camille came off as anything other than she was portrayed on the show the entire season. If anything, last night’s performance reinforced my opinion of her as a delusion, lying, sneaky, self-absorbed b.
    Anytime she was called on any of her bs, she blamed the Frash. Why did you call youself Jesus–it was because of my divorce, why are you 30% busier than the other housewives (some with actual jobs) it was because of my divorce–etc, etc, etc. Also, I still like Kyle because she owns her stuff. She doesn’t backdown and astually has sound reasons for her actions. I do like Kim, but I can she where her stuff would get old real fast. As far as Taylor–Can. Not. Stand. I so wanted to smack the smug off of her face so many times last night! Love Ad! Not too sure about Lisa–she is funny, but I think she could turn on you reallly guickly!

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    nyccookie
    Posted January 28, 2011 at 11:40 am

    ETA–I an she–*I can SEE

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    Ollybeau
    Posted January 28, 2011 at 12:35 pm

    @Sarcastire- Great post.
    Kyle can certainly be aggressive, almost comabative, even during ordinary conversations. So I’m wondering if there wasn’t a bit of cattiness in that “Spring Break” conversation after all. Maybe Kyle didn’t say those exact words, but there might have been an overall tone of condensation that Camille picked up on. Like “Oh wow, I can’t believe your husband doesn’t want to go to Hawaii with you.”
    Still think Camille is shallow and narcissistic, but Kyle’s no angel either.

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    2muchbravo
    Posted January 28, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    Flipit you rock for getting this up so fast!
    Camille is an asshole. And I’m going to blame everything that goes wrong in my life of her divorce!

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    2muchbravo
    Posted January 28, 2011 at 1:10 pm

    I meant “because of her divorce”

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    Derek Hazelton
    Posted January 28, 2011 at 1:27 pm

    For all the people who say Camille is delusional, she wouldn’t be doing all of this backtracking and spin if she was truly delusional, because she realizes how damaged her character is as a result of this show. I actually think she has come off very well on her WWHL appearance and this episode. She still may not take responsibility for her actions, but I would rather hang out with her than the Three Evil Stepsisters (Kyle, Taylor, and Lisa).

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    nyccookie
    Posted January 28, 2011 at 1:28 pm

    I am totally on Kyle’s side as far as the “spring break conversation” went down. Even Camille agrees that Klyle was just asking her who would be joining her on vacation–Kelsey or any of the girls. Apparently, this rubbed Camille the wrong way and she got her nose out of joint. I think Camille in her mind was wondering why anyone would be interested her because of her insecurities. I think Kyle was just making conversation with what she thought was a rational human being. Big mistake! And thus the drama that ensued. I believe Klye when she said why would she suggest Camille for the show and than not expect her to be filmed. Camille has no rational response to this. Kyle has the only rational explanation as far as I am concerned.

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    nyccookie
    Posted January 28, 2011 at 1:31 pm

    As far as Camille being delusional–just one comment. “I am like Jesus”. Enuff said. LOL

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    Snootchy Bootches
    Posted January 28, 2011 at 2:34 pm

    Hmm… Do you think that Camille is actually a queen of sarcasm but we just don’t get it? I mean, I’ve said things like “I am like Jesus,” but in a joking sarcastic way. Maybe her humor is just too slick for us? Nah. She’s just an asshole.

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    KinseyDuncan
    Posted January 28, 2011 at 2:37 pm

    We have heard it said often that Camille joining the cast of RHOBH was a huge stroke of luck for Kelsey Grammer, given what he planned to do. Am I the only one starting to add up the pieces here? Camille is asked to join because her husband is a major client of Kyle’s husband, Camille is not interested but Kyle says talk to Kelsey and he encourages her to do it, and Kyle almost immediately begins to pick a fight with her? The other housewives cluster around Kyle as she is the organizer of the show and her friends. We have seen how she can make her sister feel isolated and I am sure she did the same with Camille. Kyle would have felt it was “her show” and a Bravo camera crew following Camille to do “solo” filming in Hawaii would have sent Kyle’s “why is she being treated like a star, when I’m supposed to be the star!” hostile tone into her conversation with Camille. In any event, if it had not been that exchange that started things, something else would have, as I suspect Kyle did have an agenda. And once it started, Camille behaved like an asshole, thereby throwing public opinion to Kelsey. But her reactions would have been predictable to those who knew her.

    I bet Kelsey will remain a lifelong client of Mauricio, he owes Kyle a big debt of gratitude. And I do not think that Camille’s speculation she was invited on to be a target for Kyle is not so far fetched after all. I think she may well have been.

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    xqzmoi
    Posted January 28, 2011 at 5:18 pm

    As soon as Andy called Camille the most hated woman of all the Housewives, I yelled at my TV, “No, that would be Kyle.” I could barely stand to watch her smirking face the entire show. She really thinks she’s all that, doesn’t she. The silence surrounding Taylor’s snarky remark to Kyle about Kim’s state of mind was deafening. Everybody got uptight pretty quickly. I expected Kyle to come to her sister’s defense, yet she just sat there as smug and superior as could be.

    Regarding the TMZ video, it would appear that Kim was allowed to board the plane because if she hadn’t been, most certainly THAT would have been included in the clip for all to see. The release of that video was irresponsible and incredibly nasty.

    Thanks for getting this up so fast, Flipit. Also enjoyed the Housewives video with B-side. Great snark from great minds.

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    ohralphie
    Posted January 28, 2011 at 7:38 pm

    @snootybritches — I thought Camille said ‘the morally corrupt Faye Resnick’ at the dinner table, not later. I could be wrong – anyone else remember when she said it? If it was at the dinner table then I’d have to agree in principle with the naked morally corrupt Camille emails. If Kyle was sending those emails off prior to the dinner then I completely get the hostility Camille and Medium had towards Kyle. I don’t think it was the later though because Camille wouldn’t let that go by without talking about it on the show. In either case I’m sure it was Taylor who told Camille that the girls were googling naked Camille pix in the limo after the dinner party.
    Also snooty I have to take exception at you claiming I have a hard on ffor debasing Kim and that I ‘rant’ on these boards. Unless I’m mistaken, I’m not the only one here who writes many posts and/or long posts about the housewives. If I rant I am not alone. And lets be clear on one thing – addicts are not like the whores with the hearts of gold Hollywood has sold us. Addicts are soul sucking psychos and I defy you to find an addict that has NOT hurt and used and lied and manipulated and abused their families in any number of ways. I mean – they all look pathetic in the harsh light of day, but addicts are assholes with an excuse. Don’t believe me – fine. Read the posts from other family members of addicts. We all tell the same sad story.
    Now, that doesnt mean that we would let Taylor demean them on television, or tell their business to all of our friends. Kyle crossed the line big time. But that doesn’t make life with Kim a cakewalk either.

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    Stewinberri
    Posted January 28, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    The earlier video did not include the write-up. Kim was actually escorted from the airport. She was causing a scene, airport security was called, found out she was in the wrong terminal all day, her sobriety was questioned…. Write-up located further down page right under video.

    http://www.tmz.com/page/2/

    @orpalphie, I don’t think you or anyone should explain the reason for your posts, I’m sure the recappers and site administrator appreciate all that are not inflammatory.

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    Snootchy Bootches
    Posted January 29, 2011 at 4:31 am

    @Ohralphie – I know all about addiction. My mother is an addict. And I am sure that I can match your horror stories about what that does to a child and a family. I totally understand where you are coming from and why addiction is such a trigger for you. Sincerely. However, the only reference we had to addiction was from Kyle. So until there are actual facts, I try to snark it but not go off on an emotional tangent based on my own experience with addictive people. That is why I remarked a on a previous recap that calling Kim a “soul sucking psycho” was a bit over the top as it solely came (as you stated in your post) because of her addiction.

    @Stewinberri – Thank you for the reminder that no one needs to explain their comment. I already knew it as I am sure Ohralphie did too. And I am sure the recappers and site administrators appreciate your moderating their site.

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    Stewinberri
    Posted January 29, 2011 at 6:40 am

    @Snootchy, I really think you are blowing this ALL out of proportion. Que Moi, de facto moderator? Hardly. I believe the self appointed moderators are the folks who TELL people what they should/should not discuss and for the most part, have moved on or DROPPED IT!

    Oralphie felt strongly about a difficult subject she has had experience with. No need to apologize for or defend the position. Positions I didn’t read as “rants or hard ons”. Maybe I just should’ve said that and no confusion on anyone’s part.

    And your last few posts appear to go off on a disproportionately “angry tangent”.

    You can respond if you want. However, regarding this matter, I will not!

    Maybe now I can actually finish the recap. That’s what I primarily come here for.

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    notwithoutmytv
    Posted January 29, 2011 at 7:01 am

    My dog is an addict. That manipulative, soul-sucking psycho bitch is just one paw-print away from being dropped off at shelter in a box. I’m sick of it. My family is sick of it.

    It’s hell.

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    margo
    Posted January 29, 2011 at 7:16 am

    I have been wondering why Kyle would have gotten Kim involved in the show if she knows she has such problems, wouldn’t the stress and scrutiny of the camera’s put even more pressure on Kim. You have to know going into these shows there is going to be drama…

    Taylor has turned out to be a bully, it’s one thing to disagree, but she is nasty about it.

    also I have replaced my favorite curse word (FUCK) with the phrase Camille is an asshole, I find it a very useful tool.

    and I blame the Frazier divorce for any bad behavior……

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    margo
    Posted January 29, 2011 at 7:18 am

    Or misused punctuation! Camillesanasshole!

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    Angela Parisi LaRoe
    Posted January 29, 2011 at 7:28 am

    Holy crap Flipit. You churned that out fast. It was a great recap!

    So, who is the most despised housewife out of all the franchises? It seems Camille has taken over the top spot from Theresa, The Zarin, Salahi, and Phaedra.

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    Stewinberri
    Posted January 29, 2011 at 8:06 am

    Awe Taylor, and snowball seemed so harmless.

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    2muchbravo
    Posted January 29, 2011 at 8:33 am

    Adrienne and Lisa come off as ladies. Kim comes off as (sadly due to my childhood memories) pathetic. Kyle and Taylor manipulative bitches. Though Taylor is pretty pathetic regarding her marriage. And Camille, there are too many adjectives to list that describe her.

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    Snootchy Bootches
    Posted January 29, 2011 at 8:45 am

    Stewingberri – You are doing what you are accusing me of. And never forget condescension is just as inflamatory as anything else. So whatevs. Moving on.

    I totally forgot about Taylor in my previous post. Kyle had me so disgusted that I completely forgot about the blowfish! When she was doing that sideways bitch smile to Kim, I was hoping that Kim would bash her in her big lips… not that it would have done any damage, of course. Any fists would have bounced right off those lips, but still. It was sooooo mean girl! I wonder what these women thought when they watched themselves on tv. There are some reality tv folks who see themselves on tv and make a change (like Tiffany from S1 of Top Chef). And I think Camille had a similar epiphany though she is too much of an asshole to figure out how to fix it other than blaming the divorce. Did Taylor not see herself? Then again, she was WAY worse on the reunion than on the actual show. So maybe she DID see herself and is trying to be more of a villan so she can get more air time?

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    ohralphie
    Posted January 29, 2011 at 9:08 am

    @snooty – absolutely personal experience ting how we regard the world, people and Bravo reality shows . But I am not just taking Kyles word for it. Kims twitchiness and her constant state of stupefaction coupled with an air of victimhood – to me, based on my experiences – point to addiction.
    And lets be honest….who cared who Kim Richards was back in July? Noone. Not really, not enough to pap her. The guys who filmed her in the airport were filming a drunk at the airport – no more, no less. Until she asked them to google her. And yes, lots of people get take a drink or pop a pill prior to flying – but not many spend the day at the wrong terminal and are questioned about their ability to fly. In my opinion and in my opinion only the woman has a problem. Also, in my opinion and in my opinion only the root cause of any addictions would be her mother.

    @margo — that is a very interesting question…..why would Kyle encourage Kim on the show if Kim is an emotional mess? The only reason I can come up with (other then Kyle is complete ass which is always a possibility) is that Kim needed the money. Which does tie into the Kyles parting shot of Maurcio having to support Kim. Or not. Who knows? I wish that is a question that Miss Andy would ask.

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    Snootchy Bootches
    Posted January 29, 2011 at 9:38 am

    Oh definitely, Mama Richards did a real number on those girls. Very sad. I didn’t realize that video was taken back in July which does paint it in a while new light. I still think an anxiety disorder and/or depression (and possibly agoraphobia as someone mentioned a few recaps ago) is at the root of her issues more than addiction itself, but that is just me playing armchair doctor. The twitchiness doesn’t bother me much, but then I know folks who are a bit like that and don’t drink or do drugs or anything. So maybe to me it doesn’t seem unusual. And with regards to my personal experience, my mother was a rock musician so growing up I saw a lot of people on a lot of different substances and combinations of substances so I know the signs too. I apologize if you thought I was attacking you. That totally wasn’t my intent.

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    katygirl
    Posted January 29, 2011 at 9:58 am

    @ohralphie – Another reason might be that Kyle may have tried many times to help Kim in the past and nothing has worked and she figured that “outing” her may be the last hope. I know in my personal experience with an addict/alcoholic, showing them undeniable proof of their behavior proved to be successful. Kyle strikes me as being very family oriented but absolutely fed up with Kim’s “issues”.

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    margo
    Posted January 29, 2011 at 11:00 am

    This just seems so bad for her and her state of mind, she is such an easy target, and she has no ammunition when it comes to words…

    @ohralphie – Andy doesn’t ask a LOT of questions I would like to have answers to! For example, did anyone feel STUPID about fighting over the airport conversation once they saw the footage?

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    ohralphie
    Posted January 29, 2011 at 11:27 am

    @margo — god, I would love it if Andy actually showed the footage of Taylor bringing up the whole ‘insecure’ issue and made Taylor admit to her pot stirring. God, how I hate that bitch (Taylor, not Ms Andy).

    @katygirl — I don’t think she was trying to do an intervention. Unless Kim needed the money, it just doesn’t make sense. Kim herself never seemed happy to be part of the show.

    @Snooty— I was just about ready to write a post accussing you of ‘systemic bullying’ lol No worries, I know that sometimes when I write I come across harder then I mean to.
    I agree that Kim may have an underlying mental disorder. That would explain a lot, and if that is the case Taylors ‘should we talk about Kims mental state’ comment is even more disgusting then it already is.

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    Jeanine Schaefer
    Posted January 29, 2011 at 2:37 pm

    Taylor is absolutely the worst out of this bunch. I have never wanted to want to slap the smirk off of someone’s eerily un-human face so badly! She’s disgusting in every sense of the word.

    The only reason I take exception with Kyle not standing up for Kim is b/c Kyle makes such a big deal about Kim standing up for her. This whole season Kyle had to call Kim out for not getting in the middle of her stupid fight with Camille-is-an-asshole and then she wouldn’t say anything to Donkey Lips about “should we bring up her state of mind?” was just a bitch move. Taylor sucks. There is no reason to not stand up to her and tell her to shut the fuck up about her sister. Taylor would be right up kyle’s ass again anyway, wanting to be besties with the “star” of the show.

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    notwithoutmytv
    Posted January 29, 2011 at 6:34 pm

    Andy, the Chenbot, and the Stupid-haired Homo are all the exact same kind of useless–and that’s exactly what they’re supposed to be, I think. You probably can’t have a totally redonk reality show and have a reunion host asking real questions, or following up on questions that aren’t answered. The Housewives, Bad Girls, etc., can’t really respond with the truth, which would be “Well, we faked it for the show,” or “You got me, Flame Pants. I totally lied, and the camera caught it all.” The whole facade would fall down. They have to remain ridiculous caricatures, right? Andy and company help maintain that, or at least they don’t shatter it by probing too hard…

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    Tmurda
    Posted January 29, 2011 at 7:49 pm

    Paul looks exactly like Fred Flinstone, and I want a blanket made out of Kyle’s hair.

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    MtnMama
    Posted January 29, 2011 at 7:57 pm

    “Kyle may have tried many times to help Kim in the past and nothing has worked and she figured that “outing” her may be the last hope.”

    Katygirl, I actually think you’re on to something here. I don’t think Kyle did it on *purpose* necessarily but that she snapped. She might have thought over time that she needed to stop enabling/protecting/hiding the secret for Kim and perhaps was considering something subconsciously, but I don’t think it was her intent that particular night to ‘out’ Kim.

    Ohralphie’s observations on addicts match my own personal experiences; a breaking point eventually comes when someone is attempting to hide the secret for someone else and has attempted to help that person numerous times with no success.

    It’s draining – yes, even soul-sucking – and Kyle’s comment to the effect of “that’s right, your secret is out” or whatever tells *me* that she had enabled Kim for a long time and simply couldn’t do it any longer that night. She probably woke the next morning horrified at what she had done (I can dream!) yet completely relieved that she no longer had to carry the secret around. Kyle does come across as bitchy, uncaring, controlling and bossy at times but I totally get her. With an addict, you can’t be nice or you will become Wile E. Coyote against the RoadRunner. When you are constantly manipulated and used day after day, something’s gonna blow up eventually.

    Kim appears sweet and lovely, which probably makes it even harder for Kyle … no one really sees the Kim she knows inside-out. The fact that Kim’s own children sent her to rehab should make it clear to everyone that there is a long-term problem here.

    As far as Kyle and Camille … Camille’s an asshole. Team Kyle.

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    Thatswhatshesaid
    Posted January 29, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    I had the same thought: Why would Kyle want Kim on the show if she’s an alcoholic? It just doesn’t make sense. If Kim has problems, the LAST place she should be is on television. Very odd indeed.

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    indcolts1813
    Posted January 29, 2011 at 9:52 pm

    I don’t understand how anyone can like Kyle anymore. Her condescending looks make my blood boil. I actually don’t believe a word she says – I don’t believe a word Camille says, either, so it is impossible to determine what happened in the whole situation. My guess is that Kyle said something slightly snarky (as she is apt to do) and Camille over-reacted (as she is apt to do). Anyways, I started to feel a little better about Camille when she called into WWHL when Kyle was on and apologized to her for the things she said at and after her dinner party. Regardless, I don’t think that anyone has to pick sides – Camille’s an asshole and Kyle’s a bitch. It’s like picking the lesser of two evils, and no one wins at that game.

    Knowing that this was filmed before the finale actually really makes me hate Kyle more. Obviously, per Taylor’s side comment to her, she had been gossiping about Kim. Since Kim’s “issues” (real or made up) didn’t come up at the reunion, I guess she thought she would take care of that on the finale? I don’t know…it seems really bitchy. That type of thing should be done in private. I think it is pretty clear that Kim was uncomfortable with the show the entire time – even on the first episode she made it known that she didn’t know anyone other than Kyle.

    Lisa is still awesome, but she should have brought Jiggy! Maybe he’ll make an appearance on part 2…

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    DKMom
    Posted January 29, 2011 at 11:26 pm

    I am confused…in the editor’s blog, he said that the reunion episode is taped months after filming is completed and they give the women rough copies of the episodes that have not aired on tv yet so they can see what will be shown on TV and they can discuss, but I have read several comments where they filmed the reunion before the finale?

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    Thatswhatshesaid
    Posted January 30, 2011 at 6:02 am

    @DKMom: Some people have been saying it wrong. The reunion was taped before the finale AIRED. The finale was taped first and then the reunion was taped, but the finale hadn’t aired by the time the reunion was filmed.
    I’m sure they do this so we done have to wait 4 months after the finale aires for them to record and edit a reunion, but it would be nice to have some viewer questions regarding the finale. I’m curious to see how they will adress the finale – without viewer comments.

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    Where's My Coffee?
    Posted January 30, 2011 at 6:29 am

    Wow. This makes Taywhore’s wanting to out Kim’s “state of mind” even sicker than sick:

    http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20101108007487/en/Malibu-Beach-Recovery-Center-Announces-Russell-Armstrong

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    ohralphie
    Posted January 30, 2011 at 7:53 am

    Oh my god, what a hypocritical whore!!!!
    It is now official – Taylor is THE worst House ho of all.
    I cannot stand that woman, and whomever it was that noted a distinct resemblance between Taylor and random female fish in Spongebob Squarepants – BRAVO!! Even though it did ruin the Spongebob special for me this weekend (that my son had to watch a minimum of four times)because everywhere I looked I saw Taylor lol.

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    polk8dot
    Posted January 30, 2011 at 8:16 am

    I do not agree with some of y’all’s interpretation of the silence from Kyle at the reunion re: her relationship with her sister and with Blowfish.
    Blowy was threatening Kim, almost saying out loud ‘if you do not shut up and stop making me look bad, I will drag out the truth about your addiction and let all the girls and the viewers know the details, right now, watch me’ – therefore ‘tread lightly’. When I looked at Kyle’s face at that point I saw severe discomfort, and the internal battle going on. Here is what I think happened: Kyle was so pissed at Kim after the finale party that she vented to Blowfish all their secrets, probably dumping the stuff she’s accumulated for years off her heart and mind. I’m sure she asked Blowfish to keep it to herself, otherwise we would have know that she had publicly told the other women the same. I could see how sucked-into Kyle Blowfish is, and I think Kyle is at the point of realizing that now too. So when Blowy came out with that comment to Kim in order to shut her up, Kyle was mortified that she was going to reveal publicly what she told her in private. The veiled threats, all of them (as she definitely repeated it several times), to Kim, seemed to be making Kyle angry inside, but I think she was getting angry at Blowfish not Kim.
    I saw that Kyle was really really uncomfortable with Blow attacking her sister, but tried really hard not to insert herself into that spat, even though she was the reason of it. She probably felt bad for Kim having her dirty laundry aired before all of us (like she herself had done in the limo) but did not want to hurt Blow’s feelings by chastising her right then and there for spewing the stuff that was told to her in confidence. That’s why when Blowfish asked Kyle if they ‘should talk about Kim’s state of mind THAT NIGHT, THAT NIGHT..’ Kyle squirmed but did not say anything. I saw in her face that she wanted to say to Blow ‘you shut up, you dumb ho, and if you are going to attack my sister, do it on your own, without dragging me and what I might have said into it.’
    For all her touchy-feely physical displays of love for Kyle, I still think that Blowfish is only sucking up to her for personal gratification. Pretty much everybody else on this show is much better off that her, and like Lisa said ‘Blowfish will do anything to maintain her BH lifestyle’ and that includes keeping riiiich women as girlfriends. But I am sure that Kyle is growing very disillusioned with Blow very fast, and next season we will see their relationship cool significantly.
    Also, I think Kyle was still smarting from all the crap Kim has always been dumping on her, and remembering her refusal to clarify what was said in NY (since she was an eye witness) and that irked her so much that she told herself that Kim deserves some payback. That is why she did not say anything when Blowfish asked her for green light on spewing Kim’s secrets – on one hand she was unhappy with Blowy saying what she said, but on the other she thought Kim deserved some public dressing down at the hand of someone else.
    I seriously do not agree that she sat there all puffed up from joy that Blow was attacking her sister; that would be beneath her. That’s more of a Cu^!mille’s purview and MO.
    As for Cu^!mille – every single word, every single answer, explanation or excuse on the reunion were lies or fact-twistings, or omissions. She blamed EVERYTHING on Kelsey and the divorce, as ‘she knew from day one of shooting that something was wrooooooong with her marriage’, and that worry manifested itself in her behaving like a cu^! all the time (as if). No, what we saw WAS THE REAL Camille, the CU^!, no other explanation needed. When she said that ‘it was Kelsey who complained about NY apartment being too small, not her’, though we all saw and heard her making these comments, that’s when I realized that the whole reunion was going to be a sham – one big spectacle for Cu^!mille to try to throw sand into the viewers’ eyes, to revise the past, and to blame all her vile, bitchy, slutty, repulsive behavior on circumstances that did not occur until well into the season – like on the second to last episode. Plus she kept contradicting herself with every follow up, like saying on the show ‘I had no idea it was coming’ re: the divorce and girlfriend etc, while on the reunion she claimed she knew what was coming from the beginning of shooting.
    I do not think that bitch ever says one honest word a day, and all the lies, made up allegations, and stubborn pigheaded refusal to talk it out prove that she knows exactly what she’s doing and who she is, but will do and say anything in the aftermath to again deflect the sh!t she created from coming down on her. Cu^@mille is an ASSHOLE. End of story.
    Blowfish is disgusting, despicable, and low. And did she get another plastics procedure? What the hell was wrong with her face? It did not look like that same face we knew from the show. I hope she gets kicked off this show, for real – I’d even prefer to deal with Cu^!mille and her lies, instead of watching and listening to this harpy, the female Leech wanna-be. She clearly has no morals, no scruples, and no self awareness.

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    Snootchy Bootches
    Posted January 30, 2011 at 9:13 am

    If Kyle’s meanness to Kim was her blowing up because of the pressure of having to “deal with” Kim for so long, then why does she make fun of her for using margarine, announce to the world that she has terrible taste in men, etc. Kyle is just a mean person who likes to belittle others to make herself feel more important.

    And Taylor? Well, now, let’s see… She is so involved with domestic violence yet is prone to threatening violence when she is angered. She is now part owners of a substance abuse treatment center yet makes fun of someone who is supposedly an alcoholic. Wow, isn’t she mother fucking theresa?

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    gamerisnotplayer
    Posted January 30, 2011 at 11:39 am

    Tay’s inability to even give Kim a straight look, says alot. She wanted to hush her ,got very defensive, avoided eyecontact and sought for comfort in the others around. Very strange behaviour. Kim clearly makes her feel vulnerable, revealed and probably reminds her off how her face will look when the botox/fillers can’t fix it no more.

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    sarcasatire
    Posted January 30, 2011 at 12:38 pm

    Taylor used the “Oklahoma” comment as a physical threat. When called on it during the reunion, she resorted to another type of threat..the threat of exposure. She was warning Kim to ‘tread softly’ or she would tell Kim’s secrets, and make her look like a fool. These aren’t secrets that Kim told her, but possibly Kyle vented to Taylor all of Kim’s faults and so Taylor thinks she has leverage over Kim to use as she pleases.

    Even if Kim had gotten drunk at the table in NY, it would not have looked like she has a problem, just that she got drunk that night. I’m sure they’ve all gotten drunk at one time or another, so this isn’t necessarily a red flag. However, Kyle mentioning a ‘drinking problem’ would be enough for Taylor or Lisa to judge Kim as an alcoholic and use her drinking against her. Even though, as Kim has said in response, “Let’s talk about everyone’s state of mind at that table!” (In other words..we were all drunk!)
    The fact that Taylor tried to use Kim’s “state of mind” as a way to deflect from the fact that she was threatening Kim with the “Oklahoma” comment, is just deplorable. That’s like a kid with special needs saying another kid pushed him on the playground, and the bully responding, “Who’s gonna believe him? He’s retarded!”
    (okay, maybe a slight exaggeration, but you get my point. lol)

    I think Kyle wanted Kim on the show because Kim ‘s presence is good PR for Kyle. Kyle told us all season how she takes care of her sister, how she and Mauricio support Kim like a ‘second wife’, how she is helping Kim find friends and dates, all this to show us what a great person Kyle is. So selfless, so kind, so dependable. All qualities needed to become America’s Sweetheart. Kim was just a pawn in Kyle’s plans, and it’s evident now. Even when Kyle appears to be helping her sister, it’s not entirely selfless..it’s more to show the world, “Look at me! I’m helping! I’m a great person!”
    A true friend or sister would help you and not throw it in your face at every turn. or worse, brag about it on camera.

    Sure, if we witness a selfless act, that’s one thing. If we see Kim screwing up and we see Kyle coming to her rescue, then we can make that judgement on our own. But we did not see that once this season. We did not see Kyle defending her sister or coming to her rescue. All we really saw (and heard) was Kyle *talk* about helping her sister out. Is that really enough for people to have formed such strong opinions about Kim?

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    sarcasatire
    Posted January 30, 2011 at 1:29 pm

    Taylor high! Kyle bitching about Kim! Faye Resnick holding Taylor upright! Video here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftoOjlrFqCw

    The first 4:30 mins have the BH girls, and once again, Kyle throws Kim under a bus, while Taylor’s eyes threaten to pop out of her head. If Kim needs rehab, guess who needs it more?
    (makes me recall Russell dragging Taylor out of the Vegas suite, when what he was really dragging her away from was that champagne bottle)

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    sheesh
    Posted January 30, 2011 at 1:39 pm

    Agreed @sarc.
    Here’s the thing. If you really are “taking care of” your sister it would be quite evident. I haven’t seen Kyle do one thing to help Kim out.
    She didn’t help her move.
    She didn’t help her select a house.
    She didn’t take Kim’s side when Kim had an issue with her child.
    She didn’t defend Kim from Taylor…ever.
    She doesn’t even wait for her to get back to her seat at the theater Kim was unfamiliar with.
    As a matter of fact I haven’t watched one fucking thing that Kyle has done that would tell me Kim is a burden on Kyle…none..nada..NUNCA!

    But I have seen Kyle let her friends take potshots at Kim.
    I have seen Kyle belittle Kim.
    I have seen Kyle yell and bitch at Kim.
    I have seen Kyle try to physically hurt/intimidate Kim.
    I have seen Kim insinuate herself in Kim’s relationship with her children.
    I have seen Kyle announce on national television that Kim is basically a walking fuckup.

    Also anyone that has to toot their own horn rarely is doing the things they are tooting their horn about so hard.

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    sheesh
    Posted January 30, 2011 at 1:42 pm

    I have grammatical errors in my post. I am watching “The Untouchables” as I wrote it. Andy Garcia was sooooooo hot!

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    Snootchy Bootches
    Posted January 30, 2011 at 3:33 pm

    @Sarcas: Thanks for the link. Wow… Taylor was beyond drunk. The way she kept grimacing looked like she was on something besides alcohol. If I had to guess, I’d say she was coked up. Classy. And quite appropriate for someone who likes to bully others for their addiction. Oh! And the owner of a substance abuse clinic. Her halo just get shinier and shinier all the time, doesn’t it?

    And Kyle… Wait. KIM was the drama queen this season? Really? Who was involved in every single fight except the one between Kim and Taylor? Yep. Kyle. With the instigation of her drunk ass friend, of course.

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    Where's My Coffee?
    Posted January 30, 2011 at 5:02 pm

    Drunk and touchy is no way to go through life, Skeletor. Love the way they ditched Kim. Did you notice Taywhore said she and Kyle were besties? I hope Russel snowballs her ass, and she has to go back to Oklahoma.

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    whoochile
    Posted January 30, 2011 at 5:28 pm

    amen Sheesh!! you said it, way to compile the shit list, now make one for Taylor

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    Robinez
    Posted January 30, 2011 at 7:30 pm

    Looks like Taylor is just doing Lip Service to her charities if her drunkeness and threats of violence are any indication.

    “See that lady on the tv” ?,.”Yeah, the one that is drunk..I want to go to her re-hab! Mommy!…I want to get drunk and passive aggressively tell other people that they have a substance abuse problem!”

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    ohralphie
    Posted January 30, 2011 at 7:44 pm

    @ Robinez
    Lip Service – heheheh

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    Robinez
    Posted January 30, 2011 at 8:22 pm

    Re: Kyle’s derogatory remarks to Kim.

    It started with the “I can’t believe it’s not butter”..thing.

    Big deal. Kyle made a crack about not using real butter. Sister’s do that. I wouldn’t let my sis live it down when she used PACKAGED GRAVY MIX one time, I told folks that came into the kitchen about it too!

    We have been doing that to each other all of our lives.

    OK, Enough about me, do you know what I think the difference between Kyle and Kim, and Me and My Sis? My Sis said, well, at least my gravy won’t kill ya, Robin’s grill will take an hr to clean.

    Thats the difference. Anytime Kyle says anything about, or to Kim, she puts on an “I am so hurt because of that” attitude. Look, it was just butter, and if I recall correctly Kyle was the one that said her potatoes were so popular and everybody liked them.

    Kim is a debby downer. The thing is, I think she does have a sense of humor, but prefer’s not to use it if she can look like the injured one instead. She prefer’s the role of the victim instead of just saying “I can’t believe I am making this instead of you, butterface.”

    TC, Robin

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    Snootchy Bootches
    Posted January 31, 2011 at 2:35 am

    Robinez, it sounds like you and your sister have a very healthy relationship. It sounds like you are both on equal footing and neither of you are trying to be the “winner” in the situation and must knock the other down to do that. And it also sounds like your sister has adequate self esteem to give tit for tat. And I bet if all of your friends were ganging up on your sister, you would beat their asses not take their side and then physically attack your sister.

    But to me, your post outlines exactly why Kyle is such a asshole… no wait, Camille is the asshole. What is Kyle again? Oh yeah… Your post outlines exactly why Kyle is such a cunt for saying such things to her sister when her sister doesn’t have the self esteem to give tit for tat. And if it was just about butter, these RHBH recaps wouldn’t have eighty gajillion comments.

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    sheesh
    Posted January 31, 2011 at 6:55 am

    If Camille is an asshole then Taylor is the piece between the nether reigions…not quite @$$..but not quite !*$$%.
    It’s called many things but I just can’t say it. (blushing)

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    thiajok
    Posted January 31, 2011 at 8:55 am

    I can: she’s the taint.

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    Snootchy Bootches
    Posted January 31, 2011 at 9:06 am

    Also known as The Gooch.

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    musty rad
    Posted January 31, 2011 at 9:59 am

    Yep, I hope that Tayntlor sticks as her neckname

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    2muchbravo
    Posted January 31, 2011 at 10:51 am

    The more I think the more Taylor and Russel deserve each other. They’re both miserable people. Poor little kid.

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    LAC
    Posted January 31, 2011 at 10:53 am

    Hands down the funniest thing said on this show was “This entire season was planned to make me look bad!” Yeah, Cuntmille, ’cause Bravo left on the cutting room floor all the good you did: curing Lepers, the fishes and loaves thing in Calcutta, laying on of hands and drying all the booze out of Kim’s system…right, it is all bad editing…

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    2muchbravo
    Posted January 31, 2011 at 11:01 am

    Yeah, that IS some serious delusion. Why would she think anyone (besides Frasier) cares enough to make her look like a delusional, self-absorbed bitch on national TV? I suppose Kyle and Mauricio are in cahoots with Frasier who manipulated Schlemiel Gaslamp-style into doing the show just so everyone would see her true colors thereby showing him sympathy when he knocked up the stewardess and was granted full custody of the children. Because what judge in his right mind would give custody to a delusional liar with a Jesus complex?

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    MaryFrances
    Posted January 31, 2011 at 2:19 pm

    I have a theory. Kim was with Kyle and Camille. Kyle must have come very close to saying what Camille claims. That cwould be the reason Kim was so reluctant to defend Kyle in NYC. We know that Kim is terrified of Kyle.

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    MaryFrances
    Posted January 31, 2011 at 2:48 pm

    Opps. Forgot something. I’m not sure I’d call Camille the most hated housewife. I give that title and honor to …. Tarque.

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    Funtimes
    Posted January 31, 2011 at 7:00 pm

    LOL MaryFrances, it’s a close race. It would be amazing if Camille & Tarque could hook up and make test tube babies together.

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    sarcasatire
    Posted January 31, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    Worst Housewives (in order or self-importance)
    1. Danielle
    2. Taylor
    3. Michaele
    4. Vicki
    5. Tamra
    6. Nene
    7. Kyle/Camille…it’s a tie! (One’s an asshole, the other’s a bitch)
    8. Caroline
    9. Kim G ( not a housewife, still a loser)
    10. Dwight (Not a housewife, definitely a loser)

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    wasabipeas
    Posted January 31, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    Don’t forget how Kyle made fun of the way Kim said “salsa.”
    I do think Kelsey set Camille up to look bad . . .

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    sarcasatire
    Posted January 31, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    How could I have forgotten Teresa!!! What was I thinking?

    Revised List..

    1. Danielle
    2. Taylor
    3. Teresa
    4. Vicki
    5. Michaele
    6. Tamra
    7. Jill Z.
    8. Kyle/Camille…it’s a tie! (One’s an asshole, the other’s a bitch)
    9. Caroline
    10. Nene

    Bonus Asshats: Dwight, Kim G., Erica (from DC).

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    Robinez
    Posted January 31, 2011 at 11:36 pm

    Yeah wasabi

    Kim will probably never say salsa in public because of Kyle and she won’t be able to order a good Taco from now on because of Kyle’s abuse. It is shameful I tell ya..just shameful. hehe

    TC, Robin

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     Robinez
     Posted January 31, 2011 at 11:37 pm

     #100 Camille is an asshole !

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     Stewinberri
     Posted February 1, 2011 at 2:21 am

     Flipit you keep writing em and I’ll definitely keep laughing.
     Baby Audrey 2 as a vagina…Hahahahahahah! Frazier is a strange bird indeed. For that he paid 50 million. mmmmm

     Wonder when will Taylor realize we hate her shitty personality as much as her crappy cosmetic surgery? Will she be just as good a sport about that or take Kyle’s lead and beeeaaat Kim?

     The dowdy couch, I don’t know. For me the Adrienne, Kim and Camille sofa would be the one with the “Hollywood Bitches I Really Tuned into this Clusterfuck to See.” You know, lifestyles of the really rich, formerly famous and soon to be infamous Camille Grammer. But no, those losers on the other couch had to hijack the show with their poor people drama, in order to satisfy their hunger for fame.

     I mean really, Lisa you think you’re the only one who’s had to deal with an ungrateful freeloader intent on overstaying his welcome?

     Kyle, your fucked up sibling rivalry and family dynamics are played out on Jerry Springer, everyday, three times a day, in my market.

     Taylor if I wanted to see psychos who wanna “steal somebodies life and all their friends and alienate their families”, I’d watch Lifetime.

     Hopefully next season they can put this back on track. Adrienne badassing, bossing and spending. Camille frivolously spending her golddigger booty, and Kim well being Kim, beleagured befuddled former child star icon. The other ho’s and their disturbing drama need to take a back seat. Nobody tuned into this to be psychologically traumatized and depressed. I mean, RHOBH was supposed to be better than this. Act like it and hide or get rid of those dysfunctional friends and relatives. Show us your faux fantastic lives like you do those literally and figuratively fake smiles.

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     georgecat
     Posted February 1, 2011 at 8:03 am

     I hope in the second reunion show they delve into Tennis Ho and also what’s the deal with Russell???? Also, Leech’s story seems something out of Charles Dickens…I feel like he is a con man. Taylor hiding behind her anti- domstic violence cause when Kim brought up her threat at dinner was lame. I feel bad for Kim. She seems real to me, and the fact that she is sometimes is tongue-tied is preferable to those who always have a glib excuse.

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     Botoxic
     Posted February 3, 2011 at 9:50 am

     So Kim’s family has been dealing with the horror of her alcoholism? We give Kyle a pass for her behavior because she spits out a claim like that? She also said Kim was insane, demented and a liar. Kim seemed to have the most reality based recall and accurate assessment of other people of all those broads. Kyle is so desperate to be famous, she happily has put herself front and center in “dealing” with her niece’s repetitive substance abuse issues. Any time Paris gets arrested, Kyle has gotten to be in front of the cameras and she has not been disgusted, but energized. She is destroying what is left of Kim’s career or the potential to revive her career, to get some attention for herself. God help the families of all these people who project their own experiences with alcoholics into support for Kyle…. if you think her behaviors are acceptable, no wonder your mother/father/sister/husband needed to drink in the first place

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     wherewordsfail
     Posted February 7, 2011 at 12:33 pm

     God, I love you and your Broadway references.
     New rule – I only read things on the interwebs that make references to Broadway.

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     workingstiffmoma
     Posted February 9, 2011 at 2:58 am

     @Botoxic -I Read this whole thread to find someone to acknowledge this! I too noticed that Kim has the best recall out of any of the RHOB cast. We ever she can find the words to defend herself in all the she said she said bullshit – she hits it right on the dot VERBATIM as proven by simple camera replay. If she is an alchoholic I need some of what she is drinking because I only wish I had a memory like that. Unfortunately she seems so weak no one is paying attention to the fact that she alone gets it RIGHT. I think she didn’t clarify the stupid Kyle and Camille arguement because Camille had it right but Kim did not want to go against her sister and she did not want to lie either.