RHOBH: (Rubber) S(k)in City

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   iwannabeanarchy
   Posted October 31, 2010 at 4:39 pm

   Great recap!
   I was actually starting to feel bad for Taylor for being married to such a douche-tool until she started fellating the cotton candy at dinner. So grotesque and disturbing.

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   Sweet_Dee
   Posted October 31, 2010 at 6:17 pm

   Camille probably doesn’t drink because of her IBS; alcohol makes her poop a lot.

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   Robinez
   Posted October 31, 2010 at 7:39 pm

   @Sweet_Dee “Camille probably doesn’t drink because of her IBS; alcohol makes her poop a lot.”

   Yeah, from her mouth.

   Back to reading.

   Robin

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   chemgal
   Posted October 31, 2010 at 7:51 pm

   The more I see Camille, the more I grow to believe the line of thought that she was a high end escort when she met her husband. Prefacing what I am about to say with the fact that I am not a doctor but do play one in my own head, my working theory is going to be she couldn’t have kids due to a sexually transmitted disease. Camille is going to be the mic and teresa of this franchise to me in regards to the fact that she is the kind of woman who always lands on her feet. shit can be raining down and somehow, they always find someone to hold an umbrella for them. Camille will find one of countless men that love exactly what she is putting out there. She’s the type of woman that all the other women see right through and then sit around in amazement that all the men seem to love her.

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   whoochile
   Posted October 31, 2010 at 7:56 pm

   Hahaha! kyle dancing with the love of her life!! OMG, I fell in love with you again flipit! back to reading…

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   Zombie Cheez
   Posted October 31, 2010 at 8:16 pm

   @chem – I totally agree on all fronts, and I also think her IBS is BS and a cover for longterm laxative abuse. I think her marriage with Kelsey was already in deep shit and she knew it – and the whole reason he agreed to the show was as a means for her to relaunch in some way so he could get out of as much financial responsibility as possible in light of no pre-nup.

   Her show in Vegas was a coming out party, she’s letting the men know she’s available and on the market. Whatever wealth she’ll walk away with – she’s just as addicted to the power of being married to a Hollywood player, she’s looking for Kelsey 2.0. Charlie Sheen’s available Camille-toe, and he loves hookers!

   The women will shut her out, every single one was pissed and they weren’t even hiding it after a point. She’s a toxic hag.

   Haha Flipit, great screencap of Taylor blowing the cotton candy!! It was even more disturbing that way – and sadly, I can see why Russell might want a 20 year old non-surgically enhanced set of lips to perform the blowies – that looked almost mechanical.

   Oh and Taylor… PLEASE get your head out of your ass, Russell is fucking around. Venture capitalists don’t go to Saturday meetings at the Tucson Starbucks when they can spend hours schmoozing with people like the Maloof’s and Van der Pumps. And Russell wasn’t in Arizona, he was at a Super 8 back in Hollywood with a TWENTY YEAR OLD.

   Still think Kyle is a bitch, and like Kim. Although I can definitely respect her one liners when they’re not being fired off at her brittle sister.

   I despise Camille-toe.

   Thanks for the great recap Flipt – totally cracked up throughout, and loved the line about being wasted and having a man tell you he’s gonna buy you food being time to get married. LOL!! Trust me though, it isn’t – it means it’s time to drink even more and be really passive-aggressive until you pass out. LOL.

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   Sweet_Dee
   Posted October 31, 2010 at 8:28 pm

   So, would you say that Camille puts the BS in IBS?

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   Zombie Cheez
   Posted October 31, 2010 at 8:42 pm

   @Sweet_Dee, LOL! YES!

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   Fan-Ann
   Posted October 31, 2010 at 8:49 pm

   I’ve seen upper lips like Taylor’s before…in Junior High on girls after the kind of nightmare orthodontist appointment when heavy braces that include little hooks for rubber bands have been installed. We would try to stretch our lips as far as possible over the metal and we never smiled. My brother loved calling me Duckface and that is exactly what Taylor looks like to me. I got pretty teeth out of my misery but I wouldn’t want to have to re-live my Duckface years.

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    shantigal
    Posted October 31, 2010 at 11:21 pm

    Oh Flipit, I die, I die. Do you know how many times you have killed me with these recaps?

    Didn’t Mr. Adrienne do Taylor’s plastic surgery or did he just do the shots to the face? He should be ashamed if he did those lips.

    There’s usually a Camille in every circle. The one that “just gets along better with the guys”. Like Chemgal said she will always land on her back, er knees, um feet. Men like whores.

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    sarcasatire
    Posted October 31, 2010 at 11:37 pm

    Lisa’s purple top in the screenshot is totes age inappropriate. If I wanted to see droopy old-lady titties, I’dve been a mammogram technician. That said, I’d still move in her home and become Leech II. Or maybe, I’d disguise myself as the help, speak in an indeterminate accent, and tuck myself away in one of the many guestrooms.

    The Maloof (hubby) is kinda gross to me. I like Adrienne and even she seems kinda annoyed by her hubby, except for the night they went out for drinks with friends. Then she had her beer goggles on and suddenly, Maloof wasn’t so repulsive. (His last name isn’t Maloof but I can’t stop calling him that because it rhymes with ‘The Doof.’) He’s always tagging along and, initially, I thought it was because he really enjoyed her company. Then, I realized he really enjoyed the company of the cameras. And since they follow Adrienne, his choice is clear.
    He’s always muggin for the cam with ridiculous conversation/jokes and Adrienne knows he trying to steal the spotlight. Plus, he’s no stranger to reality TV. Wasn’t he one of the docs on Dr. 90210?

    Kyle’s hubby is pretty sexy. She’s got nice bone structure and great hair but I’m curious to know why every outfit of clothing she wears is loose and flowy. I think Wretch from PR makes her clothes. Or is her body really that lumpy like Kim implied with a suggestive neckroll and raised eyebrow?

    I don’t really believe Camille is sleeping with the indiscriminate blondes. I think they are there to serve a purpose..make Camille feel/appear sexually desirable. It’s what she lives for..for men to want to scthup her and for women to be aware of it. If it’s the other women’s husbands, even better. It’s a testament to her power, in her mind.
    This is also why she hangs around men and flirts and dances suggestively and coos and purrs and flutters her eyelashes, and discusses the beauty of her breasts, and enough, Camille! We get it..people think you’re hot. You think you’re hot. But you still got left for a 20-yr old, sooooooo…. you may wanna bring other skills to the table. Like how to make sure all tray tables are stowed in the upright position. Men go crazy for shit like that.

    Taylor’s goal of being a warm-blooded mammal with duck lips turned out better than we thought. She looks like a platypus. Taylor, FTW!

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    Robinez
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 12:13 am

    Thanks flipit

    Hugs, Robin

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    Robinez
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 12:29 am

    Sorry folks. I feel the need to go OT a bit and Share some info.

    According to the ACS a woman should have her first Mammogram at the age of forty.

    Take Care, Robin

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    sarcasatire
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 1:30 am

    Ooookay. And first mammogram aside, don’t women continue having them for as long as they have breasts? Or are we assumming they only go in for one mammogram per lifetime? Nope, I’m sure mammogram techs handle breasts that have been around for 50, 60, 70-plus years. Anyway, thanks for sharing.

    Take Care,
    Sarcas

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    sarcasatire
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 1:33 am

    I just watched WWHL with Lisa Vanderpump (in another inappropriate dress..this one resembling a pink satin negligee with black lace trim) and guess who she said she was good friends with? Latoya Jackson! HA, I’d love to see those two out on the town.

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    chemgal
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 4:03 am

    I’ve gotta stick up for my maloof man. I like him.

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    lawyergal
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 6:00 am

    I officially love Adrienne. On her Bravo blog, she wrote that the double cheek kiss thing is driving her crazy. Hah! I love it. I mean, come on, I’m 42 years old, and from the midwest, and I can honestly say that I have never in my life had someone greet me with the double cheek kiss. It is sooo freaking pretentious!

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    kdfinjpn
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 6:21 am

    I’m with you @Chemgal – I like him, too. I also like Kyle’s husband. He seems like he is still smitten, which is nice. Thanks for the recap, Flipit. I’m sure you never get tired of us telling you how awesome you are, so I’ll continue the practice and say you are the best!! I can’t believe you went to Disney World – you Hate. Real. People!!!

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    sheesh
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 6:56 am

    Mauricio reminds me of a goodlooking John Tuturro. I can’t help it he just does.

    Taylor’s molestation of the cotton candy was desperate.

    I like Kyle! While I do think she is unnecessarily bossy to Kim she will be the one to call Camille out. Yay!

    Lisa’s comments of Taylor’s hubby were spot on.

    Uh was it just me or did Adrienne slip something to Taylor at the pool?

    Camille, I really hate women like her. She alienates women on purpose because she knows that her “boobpower” won’t work on them. She brings nothing to any gathering but needs attention so she wedges herself between women and their men to validate herself.

    I think I got IBS watching her dance.

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    sheesh
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 6:58 am

    Oh and Camille may not be screwing the tennis pro but she wants to.

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    chemgal
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 7:22 am

    I think the main reason why I wasn’t upset with Mr Maloof is that adrienne really wasn’t. If she had been, she’s not the type of woman who would have just sat there. She gave him a look that he was supposed to realize meant “i’ve got my eyes on you mister”. But in the end, his handing money to Camille was really an insult to Camille – she’s just too stupid to realize it. Perhaps she’s been in Hollywood too long and thinks everyone thinks all strippers are really just down on their luck single moms with a heart of gold who have no other way to pay for poor little Johnny’s cancer operation or give Molly a pair of shoes when in reality, most of them are drug abusers who will most likely slide very easily into acts of prostitution. Since many of them gave it to daddy and step daddy for free, it makes sense to them to use it to get paid. And I already KNOW someone knows a stripper who really is down on her luck and only trying to A)put herself through college or B) support her kids so please note I said “most”.

    Finally, Mr Maloof is kind of sexy. Not good looking – but sexy. Its his manliness that comes through and I always have liked men opposed to guys. And he always looks like he doesn’t take anything too seriously. I like that in a man.

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    ohralphie
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 7:33 am

    Camille writes on her bravo blog that she is just sporty – a tomboy if you will. As if! Maybe that was her call girl persona but I don’t see any reality to that at all. Plus she says that the tennis pro and his wife were in Vegas to see John Mayer. I agree with @sheesh – she may not be fucking him, but boy would she like to.
    I find it hard to have much sympathy with Kim. She is a bottomless pit of need. I have known people like her (and god help me, had a sil like her) and I totally relate to Kyle. It is hard to have someone sucking the life (and money) out of you while maintaining their complete and utter helplessness in their own lives. So frustrating and infuriating! Plus Kim is just a peek at what Paris will be like in twenty years. Although to Kims credit she has yet to lock any of her kids in a closet and starve them to death.

    Taylor is sad. Just very, very sad. I can’t even snark on her.

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    Zombie Cheez
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 8:38 am

    Count me in on the Paul Nassif love, and also note that Adrienne goes by Maloof professionally but took his name when they married. As independent as she is, that tells me that she respects and loves him. Appreciating a man like Paul Nassif takes some maturity and sophistication, I can see why the some of the kids on here wouldn’t get it – he isn’t in a band, or sporting tattoos and I probably wouldn’t have gone for him in my 20′s either – that being said, men who are MEN and have that casual urbanity and underlying strength are always sexy to intelligent women.

    @sheesh – You totally nailed it with Mauricio!! He does look like a hotter John Tuturro!

    Other than Russell, I have to say the house husbands on this franchise really impress me overall. And @chem I do think you’re right about Paul slyly insulting Camille, I think Adrienne’s disgust was directed at her not him. Paul has a subtle and dry sense of humor – another quality I can appreciate in a man.

    Not sure why Lisa’s clothing is considered age-inappropriate, but I can’t really see teenagers wearing her stuff either. I think she’s very feminine and her style is actually kind of old guard, another cultural quirk of old money that may not translate well if you don’t understand it. I think Lisa Van der Pump radiates health and self-esteem, she’s obviously completely comfortable in her own skin and feels desirable and sexy without all the extreme lengths so many Hollywood women go to. I think it’s great and I say more power to her, I wish there were more women like her who embraced aging gracefully while retaining complete ownership of their sexual potency.

    Women like Camille trade on their sexuality, unhappily married women like Camille need sexual reaffirmation like vampires need blood. Behavior like hers rarely stops at flirting, and inviting a man she’s not married to to a couples’ dinner was her way of testing the waters. If she’s not fucking Nick, then she’s using him to deflect attention from the guy she really is fucking. Either way – she’s a sexual consumer and she’s chumming the water for a new man.

    I know you guys don’t agree with my opinion of the Kim -vs- Kyle situation, but I’m not ready to give up on it yet! I actually like Kyle, I think she’s funny – I just think that even though her baggage isn’t on display like Kim’s is, she might have more of it. Aside from the mother issue, Kim really was a huge star and Kyle never quite got her career off the ground so I think there may be an underlying feeling of schadenfreude driving at least SOME of her nastiness to Kim.

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    sarcasatire
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 9:01 am

    So, me not wanting to see a 50+ woman with all her boobs hanging out means I don’t understand old money? And my thinking a man with a ton of plastic surgery and a weird top lip is icky looking means I’m a kid who doesn’t get what a REAL man is?

    Fair enough.

    I love how passive-aggressively people keep baiting me in the manner that they respond to my comments. But it’s cool..I’ll be everything you imply and more. But mostly, just amused.

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    Zombie Cheez
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 9:32 am

    Oh yeah – Still think Camille-toe suffers from the longterm effects of laxative abuse, not IBS!! I’m sticking to that one – LOL.

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    marijai
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 9:39 am

    I hate Camille. Taylor is so pathetic, I just feel disdain for her. I don’t have a lot of patience for women who make their whole life about the man they are trying to hold onto.

    I’m glad you caught the Scottsdale/Tucson slip up, Flipit. I yelled at my TV “you said Scottsdale!!” when he said Tucson. Yeah, he’s for sure fucking someone else…probably more than one twenty year old.

    I am loving Lisa, Adrienne, and Kyle. I felt really bad for Kim this episode. I feel like she’s never really known true love in her life, except for her kids. I still think Kim needs a shrink, but I’m thinking she’s not as crazy as I first thought. I think she just wants what she sees that everyone else has…true, unconditional, I-got-your-back-no-matter-what kind of relationship.

    The husbands seem really into their wives, except for Russell. I think he knows his wasn’t a marriage based on love and doesn’t pretend. I like Ad’s husband and agree that Camille is too stupid to realize what was being implied. Between Horseface eating the cotton candy and Camille’s hoochie-mama dancing, poor Ad looked mortified.

    Great recap Flipit!

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    jiggyluver
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 10:16 am

    @chemgal “when in reality, most of them are drug abusers who will most likely slide very easily into acts of prostitution. Since many of them gave it to daddy and step daddy for free, it makes sense to them to use it to get paid”. I don’t know who the fuck you think you are to pass this kind of judgement- but let me correct you– most girls don’t ‘give it away to their fathers or stepfather’s it is TAKEN from them! When your willing to share what YOU gave away to your father at seven years old, then maybe I can understand this statement- otherwise, don’t think it’s entertaining to imply small children ask for it- you got it twisted honey- maybe in your household…Bad way to articulate a position.

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    ratchet
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 10:19 am

    Who said Lisa was old money? She said on Andy’s show that she still has to work 4 days a week and that her house is mortgaged. Sure, she’s fab and she married a successful business man, but she is as noveau riche as the rest of them. Great lady, funny, but when I think old money 50-plus women, I don’t think of decollatage, but rather Chanel blazers, Hermes scarves, and string pearls.

    What’s this, that it takes sophistication and maturity to appreciate Adrienne’s husband? So if we don’t appreciate him, that means…? Had you said that about Kyle’s husband, I would have jumped in to agree. But ‘Mr. Maloof’? Not buying it..if he only appeals to sophistcated tastes then I prefer to sink my teeth into low-brow man meat in the form of Mauricio. He’s easy on the eyes and never tries to make a scene for the cameras. A real man who is secure with himself and secure enough to take a backseat while his wife takes center stage. Oh, and he’s hot.

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    jersey4041
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 10:43 am

    So excited about our new housewives. Here are my takes (in order by most to least favorite)

    Lisa: I love Lisa. I think she’s a pretty classy lady. She has nothing but seemingly nice things to say about the other housewives (so far) which to me shows she’s comfortable enough with herself. She’s funny and has some spunk to her. I feel like she gets the joke (that is BH housewives) but she realizes that money is very helpful.

    Kyle: So far I think Kyle has been a pretty good voice of reason. I like the combo of her and Lisa and in some weird way she seems the most down to earth.

    Adrienne: Yes, Adrienne has a ish ton of money but I’m not going to hold that against people. Ever. If I did it would only be bitterness. I feel like she’s pretty smart. Of course she’s going to get publicity from the show for her venues. Duh. Still can’t figure out if she actually likes her husband but at least he doesn’t seem to control her. Which leads me to ..

    Taylor: At first I was on board with her because she seemed to be aware of the fact that her husband could (and likely will) leave her at a moments notice. But I didn’t like seeing her buy into that whole ‘business trip’ thing. Let’s put it this way, there is less of a gap between her and Lisa than there is between her and (my least fave) Camille.

    Camille: Where does one start? I think everyone is on to her need to feel sexually attractive thing. And I’ve always said that I don’t trust women who say they’re a ‘guys girl.’ Usually you’re like that because you’re a bad person (girl). You have no respect for other women and all you really want is what they have or to feel superior to them. It doesn’t fly with me, never has. It was summed up perfectly in recap with the whole “you’re trying to get me to drink!” thing… As for her ibs, I’m going to give her a pass on that. As someone who understands how serious (and debilitating) this can be I’m not going to make fun of her. (I do suggest others visit some forums and boards and find out for themselves how people suffer from this mysterious ailment, don’t hate, educate). All that being said–can’t wait for someone to stick it to this gi–oh wait, Thanks Kelsey and random stewardess!

    Finally, something was DEFINITELY slipped at that pool, I think between Adrienne and Taylor? Check it out.

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    Zombie Cheez
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 10:58 am

    @mari – I agree on your assessment of Kim, and I think it has to be really hard on her to always be the single woman in any gathering. I imagine she’s also really not too eager to bring any men around Kyle until she’s comfortable – Kyle has zero brain-to-mouth filtering.

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    wherewordsfail
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 11:06 am

    HAD TO STOP READING TO LAWL AT THIS:

    “You don’t get welcomed into Daddy Warbuck’s mansion and fuck Punjab. It’s just rude.”

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Okay. Reading on…

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    sheesh
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 11:23 am

    I also have to state than when Camille had her talking heads she brought kelsey’s name up every. single. time.

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    susanl
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 12:12 pm

    “It’s hard being a single mom. My son, um, what’s his name, um Joe, no, James, no,hold on, “Nanny #1 what’s that boys name that lives with us, Oh yeah, Jude.” As I was saying my son, Jasper, had the stomach flu and I had to stop playing tennis just to ask how he was doing. I always have time for my kids, John and Marisa, unless, I’m pitching shows to Kelsey’s manager, flying to Vegas, shopping for furniture, playing tennis, flying to Vegas. It’s hard being a single mother but I’m managing……”
    “I loved the Kyle comment of “4 nannies, yeah, how terrible”

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    susanl
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 12:18 pm

    I have to go along with Zombie Cheez on Kyle. She’s ok but I think she’s really the Bette Davis of the two. Kim’s just pathetic and Kyle makes it worse. She’s always putting Kim down (even if it’s true, shut up!). I really want to cut her hair off just to keep her from constantly playing with it. And I’m sorry but who dresses her? Those muumuus need to go. Her husband is cute. Is he from here? I think I hear an accent.
    I don’t understand the monologue on the first show with Kim saying she shares custody with her kids fathers. Uh, all but one are over 18. Their legal adults, custody stops at 18. And her 20 year old wants to go to Texas for the summer. Uh, Kimbo, she’s 20 not 5. You really need to get a life!

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    lindaw205
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 12:35 pm

    And I’m going along with ZCheez on Camille-toe and her IBS. Classic case of laxative abuse/eating disorder. I keep going back and forth on the Kim and Kyle thing…..I think they both got screwed over by their mom.

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    skatt
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 12:48 pm

    I think that Camille might actually be better that Heidi Montag at making “Accidental, Except Totally On Purpose Porno Face”, for the benefit of the camera.

    It’s a skill, clearly.

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    Zombie Cheez
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 1:05 pm

    LMAO! @skatt!

    @susanl – I was wondering where he’s from too! Maybe Italy? He is very cute!

    @jersey4041 – I think it’s funny how we all pretty much rate the favorite and most hated the same, and we’re all totally in flux on the others!! I really think LVdP is the best of all the housewives on all the shows to date, but Adrienne is a very close second for me! LOL! I love how down to earth she is in spite of all the $$$$$!!!!! LOL.

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    katiegirl
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 1:28 pm

    Lisa is definitely my favorite. Everything that comes out of her mouth is hysterical. Camille is a joke. Kelsey Grammer seems like a jerk, but he still could have gotten someone better than her with all his money. Although he does tend to stick with the stripper types.

    Hey – I’m confused. Who is Sarcasatire fighting with? I keep reading her comments which are apparently in response to something somebody wrote that she doesn’t like, but I can’t see any post where anyone has said anything mean to her. What am I missing? Are posts being deleted?

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    what?
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 5:01 pm

    @jersey- “Taylor: At first I was on board with her because she seemed to be aware of the fact that her husband could (and likely will) leave her at a moments notice. But I didn’t like seeing her buy into that whole ‘business trip’ thing.”

    I do not think Taylor bought into the business trip, but how do you react when there is a camera crew and camera’s in front of you?

    I personally would not want to make a scene and would try to make the best of it – until we were alone later. I think this is further evidenced by how she reacted when he basically dragged her out of the hotel suite after the concert- she definetly was not ready to leave – but she did. I think when in public atleast she takes the path of least resistance so there is less embarrasment and questions to answer later.

    This is based on how I operate and just my opinions. I may be gracious in public when I am pissed as hell – but as soon as the car door closes and the car moves, it is an entirely different game!

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    Zombie Cheez
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 7:26 pm

    “I don’t know who the fuck you think you are to pass this kind of judgement- but let me correct you– most girls don’t ‘give it away to their fathers or stepfather’s it is TAKEN from them! When your willing to share what YOU gave away to your father at seven years old, then maybe I can understand this statement- otherwise, don’t think it’s entertaining to imply small children ask for it- you got it twisted honey- maybe in your household…Bad way to articulate a position.”

    Whoa. Bad way to articulate yours too. Jesus.

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    Zombie Cheez
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 7:30 pm

    @katiegirl – LOL on the Camille-toe comment!! Haha!! All I can think is that even with all his success and money, Kelsey has some issues with self-esteem. @skatt posted something a while back about his childhood, it was pretty tragic – lots of loss to violence. I like him, even though I know a lot of people think his taste in women and past addictions are bad.

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    ratchet
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 7:38 pm

    @katiegirl: It does not appear that posts are being deleted.
    I am aware of the offending comments, mostly because I agreed with a few points Sarcas made in her primary post and thought one or two responses to her comments seemed kind of harsh, as they didn’t just disgree with Sarcasatire but stated that in order for one to be able to see things the other way (their way), would require certain traits like intelligence, sophistication, maturity. Their point was clear, and because no one else seemed to have posted with Sarcasatire’s POV, their ‘target’ was equally clear. However, I was momentarily offended myself because I shared a similar outlook on a few things that Sarcas mentioned, although I hadn’t yet posted.

    Whatever it is that bothered her (us) is not important. Let’s be grateful her response was vague and not inflammatory, and merely commenting on her awareness of certain tactics. I’m not sure if you’ve been around these parts for a while Katiegirl (or if you’re a lurker like myself), but we are all pretty much done with the fighting around here. Furthermore, if certain comments have escaped your notice, it’s best not to bring them to your attention by making any direct claims. We are over 15 posts beyond it and no drama has unfolded so there’s no need to dwell on it any further. I am quite enjoying the peace around here. I’m sure Flipit would agree.

    Now, if anyone enjoys discord and wants to pick a side, let’s draw a line in the sand and don our Kitson-bought Team Kim or Team Kyle t-shirts. We all have one. Don’t we? *blush*

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    ratchet
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 7:49 pm

    @jiggy: I was equally offended by the flippant comments about strippers being victims of incest, well not victims, willing partners. It was a little much for my sensibilities, however, I do not necessarily agree with your tactic. Now, if there is something in your past that triggered a knee-jerk reaction, then I can sympathize. Such topics are very sensitive as we never know who in cyberworld is reading and what they may have endured. Maybe because I just read on the Top Model thread that a poster, whom I’ve read for some time on the Gasm, confesses to child sexual abuse that it makes me realize that some things should never be poked fun at. We never know who we may hurt however unintentionally.

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    Brattygrl
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 7:50 pm

    Before this show started, I actually felt sorry for Camille! I thought Kelsey Grammer was a dog & this show would only prove it. However, after watching, I think Kelsey may be a genius ala Frasier Crane! She has said that he convinced her to do this show. I think he knew he was leaving her, already had his new one waiting in the wings & decided once the world saw the real Camille, no one would blame him one bit!

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    jersey4041
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 7:53 pm

    @what? I agree with you. I don’t know what it is about her…I guess she didn’t believe it. I really liked her at first but somehow she lost something for me in the episodes (I watched the first 3 in one sitting while sick). I’ll give her the benefit of the doubt for a while..

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    Zombie Cheez
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 8:01 pm

    @Brattygrl – I agree! I think he and his lawyer sit back and watch the show with a calculator, tabulating how much money he’s going to save on the divorce. LOL.

    You can dress a stripper up, you can put in her in a fine house – but she’s still just a stripper doing whatever dance she has to to put money in her underpants. In Camille’s case I’m betting escort – and I don’t care how she ended up where she is, she’s a rotten person.

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    Robinez
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 8:05 pm

    “Ooookay. And first mammogram aside, don’t women continue having them for as long as they have breasts? Or are we assumming they only go in for one mammogram per lifetime? Nope, I’m sure mammogram techs handle breasts that have been around for 50, 60, 70-plus years. Anyway, thanks for sharing.

    Take Care,
    Sarcas

    I was truly and honestly just doing what I have been doing for a very long time. It wasn’t supposed to be funny. I was telling gals about mammograms. Actually, I was glad that it was brought up so that I could say something about it without looking like a PSA person. There was more that I wanted to say..but I know where I am too. This isnt the place for all that booby talk.

    Someone said today that they scheduled an appointment for a mammogram because this reminded them. It made my day. Can’t beat that with a stick.

    Take Care, Robin

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    Zombie Cheez
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 8:08 pm

    I saw that Robin, and it made my day too. Lots of us on here have been impacted by breast cancer one way or another and it’s never inopportune to remind a group of women of how important it is to get a checkup. <3

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    chemgal
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 8:14 pm

    @ratchet: if you really are a long time lurker, you would know enough about me to know that I would never, ever joke about child molestation/rape or even the same treatment of an adult. Jiggylove obviously had a knee jerk reaction to an issue which may be close to her heart and missed the insinuated sarcasm that any TV fan would have picked up on (as every underage prostitute on every single cop drama uses some form of the following dialogue “I was doing it for free at home so I might as well get paid”). As for the baiting/responding/fighting I think I myself have done an excellent job of refraining from the many worms hung in front of me and avoiding conflict. However, I do take issue with any disagreement with another’s opinion has suddenly become viewed as antagonistic. Just because I don’t include the @name as I choose not to shouldn’t be an issue. But perhaps I’ve missed the new rules to posting.

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    sarcasatire
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 8:56 pm

    @Robin: You may have good intentions in telling gals about mammograms but it did seem a little funny that the topic wasn’t brought up until I used the term mammogram in a joke I made about Lisa. I also saw where you posted elsewhere (the forums) and misinterpreted my joke as saying that I meant people shouldn’t get mammograms until their breasts were old and saggy..or that I was making light of cancer which seems fitting to why you felt the need to comment.

    However, I just meant that mammogram techs see breasts all day long and many of them are not ‘star quality’ boobies. So, if I wanted to see droopy boobs, I’d go into that profession, and would prefer not to see them falling out of Lisa’s top. It was a joke! Either way, it seems as if you read too much into my snarky sarcasm and felt the need to comment on it. It’s cool if you want to dish out info and it’s great if it helps people…no one’s taking that away from you.

    (Not directed at Robin) Disagreeing isn’t viewed as antagonistic. Putting someone down because they don’t share your point of view is definitely so. It’s great if you feel like you’ve been avoiding conflict. So have I but I have seen (and been made aware) of various ‘digs and swipes’ on several boards, most of which I ignore with a smirk..but every now and then it’s good to let a person know that you’re aware of what they are TRYING to do and that it has no effect on you..which is what I did. Now does that mean they will stop? Only time will tell..

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    Matt Lam
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 9:17 pm

    I only like Adrienne’s boobies. I would totally be her boy-toy.

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    Zombie Cheez
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 9:21 pm

    Um – you weren’t avoiding conflict when you went after MY point of view with no provocation and in a very personal context on the Jersey Shore recaps. And you’ve been chumming the water for days looking for a fight.

    This is an opinion-driven site, people will disagree with you and you have to put on your big-girl undies and deal with it.

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    sarcasatire
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 9:47 pm

    On THIS recap, I posted about Lisa’s top and Maloof’s hubby grossing me out. Zombie, you posted that ‘one has to be sophisticated and mature’ to appreciate a man like the Maloof’s hubby and ‘the kids on here [Gasm] don’t get it.’ Well, as I was the only person who mentioned not liking Mr Maloof or Lisa’s top no it was no question who you were talking to. You didn’t just disagree, you threw in a few digs, implying a lack of sophistication and maturity on my part. But I let it slide, only pointing out that I noticed what you were doing..and I found it amusing.

    On Jersey Shore, (I love how someone always deflects by bringing up past drama or what happens on other boards..let’s stay in the present), I may have disagreed with you but I didn’t make any personal attacks or digs. There was a debate going on for a few weeks regarding one-night-stands and just because we were on separate sides doesn’t mean I went after YOU. If you still managed to take offense when I wasn’t personally attacking you, then perhaps you shouldn’t have gone commando that day.

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    sarcasatire
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 9:50 pm

    @Matt: If you date Adrienne can you please coax her into a new weave. Preferably one with a lot less glitter?

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    Fan-Ann
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 9:55 pm

    I had my first mammogram at 40 and my doctor had planned for it to be repeated every 2 years. Then my beloved mother was diagnosed with a rare and very aggressive form of breast cancer. We had a miracle because she had 8 years after that devastating diagnosis. My doctor now has me checked yearly. I appreciate all those like Robin who take it upon themselves to remind, inform and support others in
    the fight against breast cancer. Back to the fun and craziness, but thank you Robin.

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    Zombie Cheez
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    “If you still managed to take offense when I wasn’t personally attacking you, then perhaps you shouldn’t have gone commando that day.”

    Not offended at all, just merely pointing something out, my dear. Take Care, Z Cheez

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    Matt Lam
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 10:06 pm

    @Sarcas: Well, I only kiss boys, so I wouldn’t really “date” her. But I mean, I’d totally snuggle with her.

    You think her hair is a weave? I just thought it was bleached a lot. Like soaked in a tub of Clorox for a day or two.

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    Matt Lam
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 10:09 pm

    @Sarcas: Well, I only kiss boys, so I wouldn’t really “date” her. But I mean, I’d totally snuggle with her.

    You think her hair is a weave? I just thought it was bleached a lot. Like soaked in a tub of Clorox for a day or two.

    Oh and I don’t think Mr. Adrienne is sexy either. He seems charming and fun to be around, but I wouldn’t sleep with him. I probably lack the maturity and sophistication required for that. Oh well, there’s still Mr. Kyle!

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    Matt Lam
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 10:10 pm

    Sorry about the double post…

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    sarcasatire
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 10:17 pm

    @Matt: Bleached to point of looking like straw? Yep. But I also think there are some tracks in there because on WWHL, Andy asked who’s hair was real and I think she and Taylor mentioned having extensions. Camille may have, too. Anyway, Adrienne’s hair looks so stringy..like Britney Spear’s weave does when she goes too long without washing it. Plus she has these silvery glittery strands..have you noticed?

    If you only kiss boys then can we wrestle for Mauricio? Thumb wrestle. It’s the only way I’d win.

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    sarcasatire
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 10:23 pm

    I love platonic snuggling. Most times, however, spooning leads to forking.

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    Matt Lam
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 10:27 pm

    We can share Mauricio. 50/50.

    I really don’t care for Camille, at all. At the same time, I want Kyle to her hair shortened. It doesn’t NEED to be THAT long. It looks hippie-ish.

    As for WWHL. I’m Canadian, so I have to watch the Housewives online, on other websites. So I don’t get to see the after show. But I don’t get the commercials, so that’s good.

    I did see some silver in her hair, but I thought it was the overuse of Shine Infusion that made it look that way.

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    sarcasatire
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 10:57 pm

    I’m down to share Mauricio. He may be too much man for me anyway..I may need a few days off in between love sessions. Where do you reckon he’s from? I get a South AMerican vibe..like maybe Brazil or Argentina. I have many friends there with Jewish/German/Italian backgrounds who parents migrated there during WWII. It would explain his last name and dark, latin looks.

    OMG, I said the same thing about Kyle’s hair being too long! She should chop off may 3″-5″ and it will still look great because it’s so dark and thick.

    As for Adrienne, I’d accept it more if the silver was due to product overuse, rather than intentionally trying to looking a Bratz Doll.

    I think some WWHL episodes or clips may be available on Bravo TV or on Hulu. They aren’t always interesting but sometimes it’s great because it’s life and everybody’s drunk. On tonight’s show, the light’s went out! Andy, Kandi, and Patti-freaking-Labelle sat in the dark until they could get the lights came back on. Ugh..how low budget! haha

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    Matt Lam
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 11:10 pm

    Hahaha, I wish I could see that. Bravotv.com and Hulu don’t “broadcast” outside of the US. Stupid Hulu.

    I thought Mauricio was Italian…? Based on the chest hair and… well name and accent. But I could be wrong. I bet he’s a beast in bed! Yum.

    Ok, I just went on his job website (http://www.hiltonhyland.com/agents_details.php?agent_ID=9) and he’s Mexican. Was born in Mexico City.

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    Matt Lam
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 11:24 pm

    I think my post was deleted?

    Mauricio is Mexican. He was born in Mexico City. So he’s like double Mexican. He’s so hot. I bet he’s a beast in bed!

    Bravo and Hulu don’t stream outside of the US for now. Stupid Hulu. They should introduce Lisa to Cat! And make a show out of it. Or not.

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    Jeanine Schaefer
    Posted November 1, 2010 at 11:34 pm

    I love Mauricio and I want him all to myself! He really is the hottest house-husband of all time, if you ask me. And so sweet! He was so adorable talking about Kyle being a good mother. Swoon!

    I really think that Kim should’ve been more like a Dwight, or an Erica Pit-bull. Someone that makes almost every episode without being an actual cast member. It’s not b/c I don’t like her, I honestly feel like she’s too fragile for this whole thing. I don’t remember who said it in one of the comments, but seriously, what custody is she sharing with the dad? All of her kids are grown except for one! And if Whitney wants to go to Texas for the summer, wouldn’t that technically be “sharing”? She’s just too needy and depressing for me, I can’t watch her. She sucks the fun out of every room she enters, and I can’t even hate on her for it, b/c she’s so sad!

    Love, love, LOVE Lisa! I really want to be her friend!

    As for Camille-toe (genius nick-name, btw!), I can’t stand her b/c she gives women like me a bad name. I generally get along better with men. HOWEVER, I don’t alienate the women I’m around and if I’m in a group of women with their significant others, I certainly don’t try to monopolize the attention of those men. I also value women and their friendship, so while it may be true that I have more male friends than female, I deeply value and cherish the friendships I have with other women. Camille-toe is just a bitch who thinks she’s hot shit and wants all attention on her, all the time. And give me a fucking break, Camille. You love sports? Who just won the World Series tonight? How long has it been since they won? Which wide receiver was just released from his team today that he just got picked up by less than a month ago? Do you even know which sport a wide receiver plays???
    Okay, I know she isn’t actually here to answer these questions, but I just know she has no idea the answer to any of those questions. And for the answers, she would have to watch all of 30 seconds of SportsCenter. Which I also bet she doesn’t watch.

    Taylor is sad and her husbands an asshole. I say we dump them both!

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    proda
    Posted November 2, 2010 at 12:25 am

    On a serious note (can’t stop laughing at this show to have one) Adrienne has enough class to know what a skank Camille is and would never worry about her hubby with the likes of her. Camille is just a caracature of the vegas hooker stripper prostitute , take your pick. She is an embarrasment to decent women. I wonder what she got out of Kelsey for his freedom? What a horses ass for marrying her! He encouraged her to do this show so she would have something to keep busy (while he was screwing the next mrs fraser). I wonder if he knew how foolish she would look and therefore how moronic he would look for even spending one day with her. In other words I don’t like her very much. I do like Adrienne, and Kyle. Also the one who owns the restaurants. Kimberly is the hottest mess I have seen in a long time. It is funny how each goup of housewives has a certifiable nut case. I didn’t want to watch this show and now due to a saturday marathon , I am hooked. The cotton candy scene with Taylor was beyond my capacity to discribe. Great job Flipit. Love all your recaps. Keep it up.
    ‘

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    Pixielated
    Posted November 2, 2010 at 3:13 am

    I just found a website called “Celebrity Net Worth” and looked up a few of our favorite BH hos. Camille Grammer is listed as being worth $5 million (while Kelsey is worth $85 million). Lisa Van Der Pump (her husband’s last name is Todd) is worth $15 million. And, get this, Adrienne Maloof is worth…wait for it…$300 million!!! They didn’t have Kim (the closest I got was Keith Richards, ha), and I couldn’t remember the others’ last names.

    Mauricio deals in luxury real estate (he has a website). Oh, and Lisa has a website, which looks like it could be a lot of fun.

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    chemgal
    Posted November 2, 2010 at 4:07 am

    @Jeanine SF, more than 50 years! (1954) Moss, football! That’s right baby you and me can hang and discuss baseball, football, UFC and housewives all while sipping our boxed wine.

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    kdfinjpn
    Posted November 2, 2010 at 5:08 am

    Dang, Chemgal – look at you!!! I’m impressed!

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    Classy Drunk
    Posted November 2, 2010 at 5:22 am

    @ Jersey, Your outlook on “guys girls” make me sad. I am a guys girl and I really a trust worthy person but many women do not separate the actions and think I am some kind of whorah because I just get along with men better than I do women.

    I know a lot of women say that, but I like sports and really crass jokes. What I will say is (I hope) I don’t act like Camille especially with people’s wives around. In that situation, I probably would have limited my conversation with the men out of respect for their wives being present.

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    Classy Drunk
    Posted November 2, 2010 at 5:29 am

    @Jeanine, thank you for letting people know that we aren’t all bad. I just think I have different friends for different things and so I need my guy friends just like I need my girlfriends.

    I listen to sports talk radio all day so I was listening as the news broke about Randy Moss. There aren’t many women that you can call up and would understand the significance of that move.

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    chemgal
    Posted November 2, 2010 at 6:19 am

    @classy and Jeanine – have you ever noticed that the girlfriends you do have tend to have masculine personality traits? I’ve noticed that the women I am drawn to and have strong friendships with women who seem to be from mars rather than venus. And since I live in Patriot country a/k/a Red Sox nation I have to admit I would have know the answer to Jeanine’s question even if I didn’t follow sports. Finally, if any of you want to see an incredible specimen of a man – google George St. Pierre (except you Mr. Matt Lam – if you are in Canada where my Georgiepooh is from and he piques your interest I simply can’t risk any competition!!)

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    sardini
    Posted November 2, 2010 at 7:12 am

    Anyone think that the former Mrs. Frazier Crane looks like Holly Madison?

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    sheesh
    Posted November 2, 2010 at 7:42 am

    Chem
    George St. Pierre is delish. From the interviews I’ve seen is seems very sweet too!

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    olderandwiser
    Posted November 2, 2010 at 7:53 am

    I missed my annual mammograms and when I was diagnosed recently with breast cancer, it had spread quite a bit. So, from me – thanks Robinez for spreading the word about early prevention. I wish I had listed to that advice.

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    olderandwiser
    Posted November 2, 2010 at 7:54 am

    listened, not listed!

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    classy drunk
    Posted November 2, 2010 at 8:06 am

    @chemgal, I most certainly do. For example, I can’t sit around and drink wine and have girl talk, but I can watch a game and if some girl talk comes up during the game we can discuss it small increments during the game. But I am known to shout out how hot a guy is during the game and my guy friends groan.

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    Zombie Cheez
    Posted November 2, 2010 at 8:16 am

    I’m also a “guys” girl, although not into conventional sports. My two besties of over 30 years are men, although I have close girlfriends too; my closest friend is a woman and we have been best friends since we were 18 months old (seriously).

    I’ve never crossed a line with anyone’s boyfriend/husband, and whenever I’ve gone anywhere without mine I make a point of focusing more on the women, but my group is pretty well integrated in the male/female blending department and a party rarely ends up with women in one room, while the men are in another.

    It’s interesting though, if a couple comes into the group and the woman isn’t cutting it with the others they usually don’t get included in future parties, etc. My former BFF was a Jill Zarin/Cameltoe hybrid and after almost 20 years of friendship a few of us pretty much closed ranks on her. We all got there separately and for different reasons, but at the same point.

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    Lon Jeray
    Posted November 2, 2010 at 8:36 am

    dude, that purple top on Lisa is not age-inappropriate, it’s boob inappropriate.

    I know girls in their teens with too much boobs for that top and my bubbe has friends who could wear it and you wouldn’t even look twice.

    cleveage is sexy when its just a little bit. just a hint of what you cant see and every woman can do it if she gets the right bra and the right top no matter how old she is or what shes got.

    so heres some tips for Lisa also for whoever’s ass need ‘em. If you have big boobs no matter how great you think they are don’t wear a pushup bra with anything ever.

    Whatever size you have get tops that end right where your cleveage starts. A line thing going down the middle is granny cleveage. They aren’t supposed to be smooshed together. Where it starts doesn’t mean just a short granny cleveage line. it is supposed to be the start of 2 hills with a valley between. HTH and Good Luck!

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    chemgal
    Posted November 2, 2010 at 8:45 am

    @olderandwiser are you currently in treatment? Thought and prayers to you and yours. Please keep us posted – there’s a good convo regarding cancer right now on our dognapping thread on the forums if you don’t want to share on the boards.

    @sheesh, I’m loving this season of UFC with GSP as the coach. He is even more adorable when he talks and that smile. My kids bought me the GSP action figure and he sits on my kitchen window and keeps me company while I rinse dishes.

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    Zombie Cheez
    Posted November 2, 2010 at 9:04 am

    I missed your post while I was posting @olderandwiser, I’m so sorry to hear of your diagnosis. You are very much in my thoughts and prayers today, and I hope you know you have a group of friends on the forums that are here for you if you need to talk, vent or just get your mind of things for a few minutes.

    We were wondering where you’ve been, and I’m saddened that the reason we haven’t seen you is so serious. Take care, and please let us know how you’re doing – big hugs, and lots of prayers to you. XO

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    classy drunk
    Posted November 2, 2010 at 9:22 am

    I think that Camille was out of line the way she was at the pool and her sexy dancing at the concert. I went to the Jay Z concert (In Atlanta not Las Vegas). There was an R&B singer that opened the show but they were dancing a little to fast for his music, but I am pretty sure that much gyrating is not needed for Young Jeezy (an Atlanta based rapper) and Jay Z. It was clearly to get the attention of the men around her. Then at the pool I think Camille should have made it a point to talk to the women (who are her friends) instead of trying to make the men drool over her.

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    jiggyluver
    Posted November 2, 2010 at 9:40 am

    I Want to apologize about my outburst at Chemgal- I understand it was sarcastic etc., etc., you can call my reaction knee jerk all you want-but my neice and nephew ages 4 and 7 who are now in my custody were both severely sexually abused by their own father- then stepfather. Things we as adults could never imagine happening to us or our own children. Things only you read about happening somewhere else. They happen everyday to millions of kids.

    So yes- I am sensitive and maybe most people don’t realize this is something that haunts them daily, they will never come back from this. My neice may never be able to have children when she is older. Imagine a small boy being abused by someone his mother brought into his life. And there are milions of walking wounded out there- meaning adults, who carry this scar from childhood. I am still offended with that statement. Maybe you might have said, sleazy women like Camille know it’s always better to get paid for it than give it away. But me being offended is my issue, and I apologize but if any of you were to live with what I have to live with every day raising these kids and maybe you might see what I see. Again, Chemgal I apologize…

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    sheesh
    Posted November 2, 2010 at 9:40 am

    Camille doesn’t talk to women because she would have to have relatable experiences like children or work hobbies that don’t include eyefucking men that she is not married to.

    She does tell a great story about her perfect bubbies though (yawn)

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    Tiredofthebandwagon
    Posted November 2, 2010 at 9:54 am

    @jiggyluver Wow. I am at a loss for words. I find what happened to your niece and nephew heartbreaking. Please don’t apologize for responding the way you did. I don’t find jokes about incest or child abuse funny. Sarcasm or not, they are in poor taste and I would never hold it against someone if they responded harshly to a joke about child rape. Thank you for sharing your story. It takes strenght to open up on such a painful situation.

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    Zombie Cheez
    Posted November 2, 2010 at 10:06 am

    @jiggylover, I can’t speak for @chemgal but I can appreciate your feelings; and knowing her the way I do I know she would never add to the suffering of any child, or diminish the pain so many children suffer at the hands of sick adults.

    I’m so sorry for your niece and nephew, and hope that they can overcome the terrible things that happened to them with your obvious love and support. I have a huge amount of respect for any person that steps up to the plate where children are concerned, and you are a truly amazing person to take these children in and provide a safe haven, and more importantly a loving, compassionate home.

    I haven’t seen you comment before, so if you are new then I hope you stick around and give us a chance, I would like to get to know you better. We also have a thread on the forums where we discuss everything about all the HW’s shows and all the subjects that come up for us personally in the shows, and sometimes like this; on the boards.

    Good thoughts to you and yours @jiggy, and thanks for sharing such a personal insight.

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    susanl
    Posted November 2, 2010 at 10:11 am

    Pixielated. I get the feeling Kim ain’t worth too much. Kyle keeps hinting around Kim’s broke because she spent all her money and since she only has one child under 18 I’m sure the child support has run out too. Kyle probably doesn’t have much either after seeing how she spends. I’m sure her money now comes from her delicious husband.
    I also like Lisa and Ken. I think their a hoot!

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    susanl
    Posted November 2, 2010 at 10:12 am

    I mean “they’re” not their. I’m HUNGRY and can’t think straight.

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    skatt
    Posted November 2, 2010 at 10:13 am

    Is it just me or are BOTH Camilles’ eyes kinda wonky (wonkish?)?

    My apologies in advance if this becomes all you can concentrate on while looking at her.

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    chemgal
    Posted November 2, 2010 at 10:39 am

    @tiredofthebandwagon We’ve had issues before and you’ve never felt the need to co-opt someone else’s apology of a means of addressing it, so why do so now?

    @jiggylover, very sorry for what your niece and nephew are going through and I do know first hand. there are some fantastic therapists out there. I do however stand by the crux of my comment, even if some misinterpret it as a joke. Most strippers/prostitutes were abused as children and most continue to abuse themselves through drugs/drink. Because of what they went through, and without therapy, which most likely not a single one got, they, just as many rape victims view sex differently.

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    notwithoutmytv
    Posted November 2, 2010 at 10:41 am

    You know what the cause of most of the verbal hair pulling and bitch slapping on these boards stems from? TMI. I don’t know why some of you feel the need to overshare as much as you do. Seriously, why would you post some of the dirty laundry you do? And then it’s straight to Flameville as soon as somebody says anything at all, because you’re WAY TOO CLOSE to the subject THAT YOU YOURSELF BROUGHT UP.

    I’ve faced nasty shit in my life too. After my second child, the baby weight never came off. I came home to find my hubby sniffing the nanny’s panties while she was in the shower. Three months later, he sold the house out from under me and ran off with the little hussy. Now I live in a double-wide and I don’t have anywhere to put out my garden gnomes. But you don’t see me posting that shit everywhere, do you?

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    marijai
    Posted November 2, 2010 at 10:56 am

    @olderandwiser….so sorry to hear of your diagnosis. My thoughts and prayers are with you. I wish you a speedy recovery and life long remission.

    @jiggylover…you and your family are also in my prayers. I pray for all of you to have strength to overcome this horrible situation. There is definitely an extra jewel in your crown for taking care of your niece and nephew. May God heal their bodies and minds and may they have the life they so deserve. God bless you all.

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    Zombie Cheez
    Posted November 2, 2010 at 10:57 am

    @nwmtv – I kind of wanted to bitch-slap you when you told me you ate Fatback. That poor pot-bellied pig.

    Maybe if you laid off the bacon, the baby weight would come off and you could find an exciting job doing Walt Disney tours while banging your way through “It’s a Small World”. Keep us posted, love and kisses – Z Cheez.

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    Tiredofthebandwagon
    Posted November 2, 2010 at 11:06 am

    @chemgal my post wasn’t directed at you. I don’t have issues with you and I never did.
    I found your joke very distasteful yesterday when I read it. I didn’t comment because I was not trying to get involved in a comment war. I just choose to skip it. However I directed my comment at Jiggylove because she/he was apologizing for something that I don’t feel she/he had to apologize for. Just because I choose not to say something yesterday when I read it doesn’t mean that I didn’t find the joke offensive. I’m not co-opting a damn thing. I am offering online support to someone who opened up with a very personal and painful story.
    It wasn’t about you. And it still isn’t about you. Ok? Got it? If it isn’t clear enough, unless I @ you IT ISNT ABOUT YOU!!

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    Bionic Television
    Posted November 2, 2010 at 11:13 am

    @sheesh – OMG I TOTALLY think Kyle’s husband = a hunkier John Turturro too! SO funny.

    These chicks give the double-kiss greeting such a bad name – my extended family is from the Mediterranean / Middle East part of the world so I grew up with the double-kiss as a greeting (but they were real kisses, not just air kisses). Anyway, totally random I know, just wanted to defend the double kiss – it’s not always a pretentious thing I promise

    Oh and I have to say, I like Mr. Maloof too – I think his affection for his wife and hid wanting to hang out with her is genuine. I dig their relationship, they seem like best friends.

    Back to reading the comments…(amazing job with the recap Flipit, BTW!)

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    Jeanine Schaefer
    Posted November 2, 2010 at 11:55 am

    George St. Pierre=YUM!!! All of my top fantasy boyfriends are sports players. And not the “tennis-instructer” types that Camille seems so fond of.

    What the fuck is up with the Vikings? Randy Moss is the man!

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    sunshine
    Posted November 2, 2010 at 12:29 pm

    @jiggyluver – I am so sorry about your niece and nephew. I think we have all been guilty of reacting very strongly to comments when it hits close to home. We are all human, and you have a horrible story. Sorry again.

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    Libithina
    Posted November 2, 2010 at 12:31 pm

    I’m obsessed with all of the housewives, even Camille and Kim. Even though they live in the Land of Delusion, they don’t drive me as insane as Kelly and Michaele did…is it because of the zip code possibly? Discuss!

    All of Camille’s interviews crack me up, “you don’t want to mess with me,” huh?! Why, what will you do? Will you hire someone else to deal with this new problem? I love her, and the fury that she causes Adrienne and Kyle.

    There is something so repulsively attractive about He-Loof, he grosses me out, but I like how he seems to still like his wife, it’s admirable.

    Kyle, totally adore you and your hair, but I don’t believe for ONE second that you don’t know Jay-Z songs…remember a little thing called the ’90′s? Yeah, he was kinda a big deal back then too. You’re only 41, and you live in Beverly Hills? Pretty sure you consider yourself to be a cool mom, so take your story back, I’m not buying it.

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     jiggyluver
     Posted November 2, 2010 at 1:24 pm

     Thanks so much- I do really apologize, I don’t generally air dirty laundry like that- and have never been on the boards- just enjoy reading. So I guess we are all human, all have baggage, pasts, and each deal with problems, others don’t have to face. If I ever jump in to post again, I will stick to topics like what a hoe bag Camille is, how much I hate Phaedra and other fun things- because let’s face it- these shows are a great escape from my everyday life. A little guilty pleasure.
     I Wonder if Camille has beef curtains????? Maybe Frasier’s not into that

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     sheesh
     Posted November 2, 2010 at 1:35 pm

     I hate Theresa, loathe th Salami’s, despise Phaedra, and ABHOR Camille! Yay Yay I got to post it!

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     whoochile
     Posted November 2, 2010 at 1:48 pm

     “@nwmtv – I kind of wanted to bitch-slap you when you told me you ate Fatback. That poor pot-bellied pig.

     Maybe if you laid off the bacon, the baby weight would come off and you could find an exciting job doing Walt Disney tours while banging your way through “It’s a Small World”. Keep us posted, love and kisses – Z Cheez. ”

     dying!! hahaha! where’s the black oak about now???

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     sarcasatire
     Posted November 2, 2010 at 1:51 pm

     @jiggyluver: I am very sorry to hear what has happened to your niece and nephew and am glad to hear that you took them in and are encouraging them on a path of healing and triumph. I can totally understand why you posted in response to such a tasteless joke. I was also offended but didn’t want to say anything, given the history between myself and the poster. However, there’s nothing funny about poking funs at victims. (Unless their victims of bad plastic surgery.)

     @Bionic: Double-kisses to you! My daughter’s family (on her dad’s side) is Brazilian and while I lived there I, too, adopted the custom of the women to double-kiss as a greeting and sendoff. Like the Mediterranean style, our kisses connected, unlike those silly air kisses made on the show.

     @Libithina: Yea..the only person I’ll buy not knowing who Jay-Z is, is Lisa.

     @NWMTV: You wanna know how to avoid gaining too much baby weight? Don’t have any children. Chances are you’ll still end up shaped like a bag of doorknobs, but now it sucks because you have nothing to blame it on. But don’t worry..you’ll find love again. Just make sure the man is older, atleast by a decade, because older men tend to have a soft spot for unattractive younger women. You know what they say, there’s someone out there for everyone.

     @Matt: So, Mauricio is Mexican. Hmmm..I may have to take a trip down to Mexico City. I suspect there are churning out the hotties down there. Madonna just opened a fitness center down there and you know it’s because she’s ‘latin love aficionado’ and will no doubt be surrounded by plenty of eye candy. Madge, I’m on my way!

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     sarcasatire
     Posted November 2, 2010 at 1:58 pm

     @jiggyluver: (just saw your new post). If any of the Bevey Hills ladies had beef curtains thy’d had vaginoplasty post-haste. These days, it’s all about a designa-vagina. I wonder if that’s one of Mr. Maloof’s specialties. I could imagine Camille, in the midst of polite dinner conversation, injecting a little anecdote about her vagina and how her GYN told her it was the prettiest thing he’s every seen and not giving birth has kept her muscles as tight as a virgin in an arranged marriage. But she’s always considered making a great thing better. She’d then ease up on the table, plopping her ass on Maloof’s plate and she spreads, looking seductively in his eyes, while the rest of the guests look on aghast. “Tell me, Doctor, do you think I need any work? Give me, you know…your professional opinion.”

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     Matt Lam
     Posted November 2, 2010 at 2:03 pm

     @Chemgal: I totally know who he is. I think he still lives in Montreal. Don’t worry though. He’s not my type. He does have a nice body though. He’s all yours, with a red bow on top.

     @Sarcas: Oh snap! Claws are coming out. Is it gross that I’m getting turned on by that? Well, they said so on his website, with his work number! I totally wanna call!

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     Zombie Cheez
     Posted November 2, 2010 at 2:26 pm

     “@NWMTV: You wanna know how to avoid gaining too much baby weight? Don’t have any children. Chances are you’ll still end up shaped like a bag of doorknobs, but now it sucks because you have nothing to blame it on. But don’t worry..you’ll find love again. Just make sure the man is older, atleast by a decade, because older men tend to have a soft spot for unattractive younger women. You know what they say, there’s someone out there for everyone.”

     See sweetie, there’s still hope for you – keep on keepin’ on. Take care. Z Cheez

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     sarcasatire
     Posted November 2, 2010 at 2:27 pm

     @Matt: Maloof’s work number? Yes..do call. Even though it may not be as fun as we’d hope because he probably has several secretaries fielding calls and taking appointments. But if you can get your hands on Mauricio’s work number…I’d beg to do a three-way. Call. Don’t worry, I won’t speak..I’ll just listen in and giggle into my palm, reminiscent of my tween days. Then after he hangs up, you and I can overanalyze every comment he made until we’re convinced he’d just professed his love for you, a thousand times over. If you didn’t live so far, I’d then invite you over for a Ouija session so we could gather even more proof of his everlasting love. Never underestimate the power of the Ouija.

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     sarcasatire
     Posted November 2, 2010 at 2:30 pm

     @ZCheez: Why are you copying my posts? Are you trying to stir up more trouble? Goodness grief..let it go already! It’s amusing, sure, but too much can be annoying. Try not to overplay your hand.

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     Zombie Cheez
     Posted November 2, 2010 at 3:13 pm

     What are you talking about @sarcassy?? I was just trying to be encouraging, you’ve talked a lot about how you put on 50 pounds of baby weight, and made all those self-depracating comments about how there’s “more of you”, etc.

     Really, you should take an olive branch when it’s offered, you seem a little stressed and defensive my dear, that can’t be good for a new mom who must be spending all day and night running after an active little one. (((sarcassy))) You take care now, we wouldn’t want to lose you! XO

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     sarcasatire
     Posted November 2, 2010 at 3:39 pm

     Wow..so now you’re taunting me. How old are you?? You were not offering an olive branch because I was not discussing myself in that post to NWMTV..as I have a baby. I jokingly posted to NWMTV “that older men like unattractve younger women” and you saying that ‘that means there is hope for me’ is supposed to be an olive branch?? (Is anyone so stupid as to believe this?)

     Now, YOUR post to NWMTV, where you said, “The best way to lose the baby weight is to lay off the bacon,” is just another one of your digs and taunts, I now realize. But since I ignored it, you decided to become more direct by using my post.

     Yes, I put on 50lbs of baby weight and I’m now a size 10..which at 5’8″, looks surprisingly good. Atleast, that’s what my younger, European boyfriend tells me. Sure, when you’ve been 118lbs all your adult life, it does feel a bit different to have curves, especially since all of my designer clothes fit the smaller Me. But don’t cry for me, Argentina. Nor should you ever feel compelled to respond to my posts or even acknowledge me on the boards. Your digs/taunts are so transparent, and your desire for a flame war is so blaring, that I fear blindness from rolling my eyes so damn much. If you really want to offer me an olive branch, leave me the hell alone. It’s the nicest thing you could ever do.

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     Sweet_Dee
     Posted November 2, 2010 at 4:01 pm

     Please, not THIS again…not on the RHOBH recaps! Let’s stay on topic, shall we? Taylor looks like a blow-up doll. Discuss.

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     olderandwiser
     Posted November 2, 2010 at 4:33 pm

     ZombieCheez – you crack me up! Your intelligence may piss off some (one) poster, but you sure keep me entertained! Never change, okay?

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     jersey4041
     Posted November 2, 2010 at 4:41 pm

     @classy drunk I’m sorry if I offend you. It’s just that in my experience the women who say this are not very trustworthy and really don’t want to take the time to get to know other women. Having worked behind a bar and just being generally sociable, I’ve seen it happen all too often- women just snubbing other women for no reason. They just want to be with guys. Personally, I believe it’s because they like the attention. I love being friends with the guys and I can sit down and watch a game with the best of em’. I can discuss Moss, Manning, McCoy or whoever it might be…my boyfriend is a sports reporter so I get it. I can tell a dirty joke, I can slam a shot. I just think a lot of women would rather tear each other apart then try to get along and those that seem to make it a rule that men are just ‘better friends’ are often the problem. I reconsidered that attitude when I realized that many of the guys I considered my ‘boys’ were not saying “well, I’m just a girls guy” …they don’t often reciprocate. Guys will always have their guy love for one another and now they get to have all the girl love. Again, I didn’t mean to be offensive and not everyone’s experience has to be mine. As I’ve grown up, I’ve just found that the ‘guy’ that I need to be my bff is my boyfriend and I rejoice in the way I can talk for hours with my girlfriends. You just don’t get that from guys.

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     Robinez
     Posted November 2, 2010 at 5:03 pm

     “@Robin: You may have good intentions in telling gals about mammograms but it did seem a little funny that the topic wasn’t brought up until I used the term mammogram in a joke I made about Lisa”

     I didn’t bring it up before because it was never mentioned before. And I grabbed the opportunity. It is that simple. *Shrug*

     Robin

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     Robinez
     Posted November 2, 2010 at 5:06 pm

     What I really want to know is this; Has anybody figured out what it was that Ad handed to Taylor at the pool? I haven’t seen the episode again to be able to pay special attention..

     TC, Robin

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     notwithoutmytv
     Posted November 2, 2010 at 5:29 pm

     @everybody: I apologize to anyone else who thought I was trying to clandestinely get in a dig at them when what I was really trying to do was encourage someone else who apologized but really had nothing to apologize for. If you think that this message is for you, then it probably isn’t. But if it is for you, then you would know, because I would say it to right to a bitche’s face, right before I had my personal assistant punch her in her babymaker.

     And if you think I took any pleasure in eating Fatback, you’re out of your mind. All the Carolina cooking clay was gone, and that sweet, sweet pork was just running around the yard, and my Mom did what she had to do to feed all of us.

     I’m sorry if I’ve offended pork, Carolina cooking clay, anyone who was raised in poverty, anybody who’s a mom and had to kill a beloved pet to feed it to her kids, anyone who has paranoid dementia and may misconstrue this post to be about them, or any of you think you might have meat curtains and are super sensitive about it and wondering if it’s the reason your man hasn’t gone down on you in the last decade.

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     whoochile
     Posted November 2, 2010 at 5:57 pm

     nwmtv, please post more often
     mwah, whoochile

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     Zombie Cheez
     Posted November 2, 2010 at 6:35 pm

     @notwithoutmytv – can you please let your assistant know my babymaker is old and decrepit, and not to be alarmed if dust flies out upon impact.

     Also, I was told my beef-kitten was absolutely prize-winning the last time someone saw it. Which was in 1997.

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     Matt Lam
     Posted November 2, 2010 at 7:41 pm

     @Sarcas: Sorry, I meant there was Mauricio’s work number, on his work web page thing.

     @EVERYONE: Why not stop the “little digs” and “little taunts” and all that shit? Seriously. This is like being in a gay High School. If you don’t like someone, either don’t talk to that person, or about that person, and go on with your life. Can’t we just all get along?

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     pantsonfire
     Posted November 2, 2010 at 8:03 pm

     Speaking of Beef Curtains (LOVE that new phrase)Lets play a game- From 1-10- Whom, of all the housewives, do you all think has the best looking to worst looking. I want explanations of course- just not really long ones…

     I threw up a little in my mouth with sarcastires rendition of Camille at the bar- gross- and a little to thought out, maybe to many Harleqiin Romances but whatever…I love being naughty.

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     Jeanine Schaefer
     Posted November 2, 2010 at 9:39 pm

     Okay, so first place for (Potential) Best Looking Vag…Adrienne. She’s cute and on the smaller side and I don’t think she’s squeezed out too many kids. Next would go to Lisa b/c it’s most likely in pristine condition considering she only has sex twice a year. After that I want to say Taylor b/c she’s relatively young and even if it wasn’t nice, like Sarcas mentioned, she could “designa-vagina”. (Love that phrase, btw!) In a tie after that comes Kim and Kyle. They share the same genes and they’ve both had a few kids each, so that’s that. Although Kyle may have a slight edge b/c I’m sure hers is in frequent use, or at least it should be with a hottie of a husband like she has! Then in dead last place is Beef-Curtains Camille-toe. No further explanation needed.

     Thanks @pantsonfire! That was kind of fun! I don’t usually spend that much time thinking about other women’s vaginas, especially ones I don’t personally know, but I think I did a good job of speculating!

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     Pixielated
     Posted November 2, 2010 at 10:01 pm

     Here is the link for Lisa’s website:

     http://www.lisavanderpump.com/

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     sheesh
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 5:16 am

     @robinez What I really want to know is this; Has anybody figured out what it was that Ad handed to Taylor at the pool? I haven’t seen the episode again to be able to pay special attention..

     Coke? Uppers? Downers? Discobiscuits? Goofs? Wifferballs? I doubt it was a feminine product.

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     Zombie Cheez
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 7:18 am

     @sheesh – I think it was a note folded up into an origami-style triangle with a lipstick kiss on it, claiming; Cameltoe is a big slut, I think her butt looks big. Lets not talk to her at lunch, but just ignore her like we didn’t hear her. PS – I love Paul, TLA! Don’t tell anyone.

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     Erin Solis
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 8:01 am

     I stepped away from the RH boards midway through NJ and swore I would stay away from the DC bitches…and did. But hot-damn did I get sucked into the BH drama. The recaps and comments make my work day so much brighter.

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     sheesh
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 9:31 am

     @Zombie Cheez
     @sheesh – I think it was a note folded up into an origami-style triangle with a lipstick kiss on it, claiming; Cameltoe is a big slut, I think her butt looks big. Lets not talk to her at lunch, but just ignore her like we didn’t hear her. PS – I love Paul, TLA! Don’t tell anyone.
     Hilarious!

     ZCheez or maybe one of my favorite notes. “Do you think Cameltoe is fucking the tennis pro? check yes or no”

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     Matt Lam
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 9:51 am

     Couldn’t they just do that via text message though?

     I didn’t see her give Taylor anything… I guess I wasn’t paying enough attention.

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     Zombie Cheez
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 10:03 am

     @Matt I don’t think you can do check yes or no in a text message though. I’ve tried. LOL

     I didn’t see it either, I have to watch it again on iTunes. But then again I miss half the crap they show anyway because I’m loaded from drinking to things like, take a shot if Camille’s eye goes wonky, or when Kyle flips her hair.

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     chemgal
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 10:05 am

     @Matt – thank you for letting me know I’m not the only one. (and thanks for the GSP info and the relief you granted me by knowing I won’t have to compete against you for his love and affection if I ever get my ass into Canada but are you available to be a professional stalker for me? listen to me, crazy American, I’m talking like Canada is the size of Rhode Island.)
     I didn’t see it either and since I seem to be auditioning for a role on hoarders based on my dvr alone, I deleted the episode and can’t go back to look.

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     sheesh
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 10:14 am

     It’s when they are at the pool and they are getting up to leave Taylor kinda stumbles really close to Ad who definitely slips her something. it could be easy to miss but if you are looking for it you slap your forehead and yell “Someone played the passme game!”

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     pantsonfire
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 11:10 am

     @Sheesh Yeah I re-watched and they definitely have that “School girl passing a pink heart to her friend on a diet’ body language going on. It’s brief, but you cannot miss it. You can tell, it’s so high school. Laughed my ass at Chemgals passing the note about not talking to Cam toe at lunch.

     @Jeanine Loved it- well thought out- but, even though I hate her, I think Cam would be close to #1. A) becuase she has never carried and or gave birth to a child 2) she is obviously uber obsessed with her body and how it looks.

     I watched a very interesting doc on BBC about women who go to the extreme of vaginal modification becuase they feel like their jj’s aren’t attractive. Until I watched this I had never heard of anyone going to this extreme for something other than a medical necessity. Scandalous!

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     msjacqmills
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 12:10 pm

     I’ve been reading the Housewives recaps pretty much from the beginning, and have been following the drama between posters. This is the first I’ve posted about it.

     @Sarcastire – I generally love what you add to the comments, often thoughtful and funny. But, I think you’re being overly sensitive and reading into things where there is nothing to read into.

     @nwomtv and Zombie – love your humor – dark sarcasm at it’s best.

     @Matt – I think you are adorable, and I may have a slight crush on you.

     over and out

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     sarcasatire
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 12:10 pm

     @pantsonfire.. yea, my imagination gets carried away sometimes. But, of course, I could totally imagine Camille bringing up her unmentionables around men, just to have them start picturing her naked.

     And to expand on the topic of vaguvenation (I’m here all week!), not only can you get your beef curtains trimmed, and a bit of anal bleaching (dark no-nos are SO passe), but why not go for that super youthful vibe and get yourself a hymen! That’s right, ladies, one can be a virgin…again and again! Coupled with a ‘vaginal tuck’, which does everything Kegals do but in less time, you’ll be able to land the richest man ever. Smart, beautiful, and….pure? The ultimate package. (Just make sure you burn all your sex tapes and photos from your spring break in Cancun.) And remember, the best way to convince him is to hold out till your wedding night. But if you slip up and never make it to the altar, don’t fret. Go back and get revirginized. The new guy’ll never know the difference and soon he’ll be putty in your arms. Satisfaction guaranteed.

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     chemgal
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 12:15 pm

     I am so a capitalist, but if women really have enough money to worry about their vaginas on a cosmetic level while kids are starving and our vets our homeless, I may have to start believing that some people really do have too much money. shhhhhhh! no one tell Rush L. on me.

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     marijai
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 12:17 pm

     I’ve been thinking about Cam-toe’s kids. They’re always with at least 2 of the nannies at any given time. We know (or at least it appears) that Cam doesn’t interact with the children much, and Kelsey is in NYC (can’t blame him) for a year. Do those poor children ever spend any quality time with their parents? I mean, more than 5 minutes here and there? Lord help me, but even Teresa has more of a mothering instinct than Cam-toe does.

     I guess Mason and Jude will be the newest residents in the St. Gasmii Orphanage for Rescued Housewives’ Children & Husbands.

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     sarcasatire
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 12:19 pm

     @msjacmills, thanks for your comments. It may seem as if I am reading into things but it isn’t the case. I’d rather not explain and open a can of worms, or send you to forums for verification…best to just leave it be and hope it’s finally behind us.

     Now, regarding our Resident Handsome… stay away from Matt! He’s miiiiiiiiiiine!

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     chemgal
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 12:33 pm

     @marijai, as a mom of 3 I have found that you fall in love with your kids and that’s why I’ve always believed that adoptive parents or parents who used surrogates completely and utterly fall in love with their children as well. Every deed done for and with a child makes that bond stronger. I also believe that the less time parents spend with their kids, the harder it is for them because when you aren’t around, it can be scary suddenly being with them. You have to get use to the noise, the fluids, the messes and the neediness. I doubt Camille has ever even changed a diaper as a nanny was most likely employed from day 1. Someone mentioned that the fact that Camille’s new show is based on the relationship between her daughter and nanny and I think that speaks volume. I think that even when in the room, she is merely an observer of the children interacting with others. I noted that the kids acted much differently with Kelsey than with her and I think that is telling.

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     notwithoutmytv
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 12:36 pm

     I have a secret verification forum. Only I can see it. And the contents would MAKE YOUR HEAD SPIN FULLY AROUND THREE TIMES. These forums would burn down, baby. Complete records. Rap sheets. Annotated, documentated, verificated, fully notary pubicized guides to all of your posts.

     And I copy Santa on fuckin’ EVERYTHING. So think about it, and keep a civil tongue in your head.

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     notwithoutmytv
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 12:41 pm

     Chemgal, it’s called Crazy Mommy Syndrome. Even at a young age, children can sense when a parent is unhinged, and they naturally gravitate toward the parent who is more capable of passing along the necessary survival skills. Or the parent who is less likely to devour them or sell them to passing bands of gypsies.

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     Matt Lam
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 12:41 pm

     @msjacqmills: I’m flattered *giggles*

     @Zombie: Well, I mean, reply YES or NO. In texts lol.

     @Chemgal: Exactly. Canada is NOT the size of RI. I could probably call some people and have George delivered to you. In his birthday suit. Although, he’d probably have to be heavily sedated.

     @Sarcas: <3

     Now, honestly. How many of you have clicked on my "avatar"? Since it's my FB picture.

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     marijai
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 1:01 pm

     @Chemgal…I don’t have kids, but I can’t imagine giving birth and handing my brand new baby to someone who, esentially, is a complete stranger. Oh yeah, that’s right, she didn’t give birth because of her BS Syndrome! BTW, I’ve been missing the Haydenisms lately!

     I hope for their sakes that Kelsey is a good dad and spends time with them sans nannies. Honestly, I would mind seeing Cam lose custody, but we know that will never happen.

     I abhor Camel-toe!!!

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     chemgal
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 1:01 pm

     @notwithoutmytv: please make santa claus well aware that Matt is going to fulfill the wishes of a poor little house frau and deserves a gorgeous designer watch (or two or three) for christmas this year.

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     pantsonfire
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 1:05 pm

     Have you noticed in the last year- that the Bravo cameras never seem to be around when something important happens, and something that keeps getting brought up and thrown out by the cast, but we never got to see. Last year on Atl. when Nene choked Kim, when the Salamis crashed the Caucus dinner, and now this dust up between Kyle and Camille.

     So either they don’t have enough camera crews or it’s all made up drama for the cameras. I tend to think Cam toe made up the story to get attention, and she obvioulsy noted Kyles distate with her throughout the weekend. And yeah, she’s totally banging the tennis guy- no doubt. Woman like that seek attention all the time.

     Sarcas- and yeah…. yuck on the beef curtain trimmings. No thank you. I’ve seen a lot of ‘little ladies’ since I realized I liked ‘little ladies’, but truthfully, I have never seen another gal that gross it would turn me off of them. In person that is. Now if anyone has ever watched any good porn, you can probably agree that some people out their have little ladies that look a bit more likle a gutted fish, but I must repeat- I have never seen one live and in person that bad, that I would imagine a person going- Gee, time for botox and a little trimming.

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     olderandwiser
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 1:11 pm

     @marijai – I completely agree with your comments about Camille. What a really horrible parent she is. Unfortunately, Kelsey seems way too wrapped up in his own personal life to be a very effective parent. Those kids are most likely going to have a much stronger bond with their four nannies than they do with their parents, unfortunately.

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     Matt Lam
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 1:25 pm

     I thought the “in” thing to do this year, was to get your asshole bleached? Or we’re past that already?

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     lindaw205
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 1:31 pm

     @Matt – if you’re taking orders for Canadian men, I’d like to place mine now, before the rush. Nathan Fillion. He’s all I want for Christmas.

     As for Mr. and Mrs. Cameltoe, I think they’re poor kids are in serious trouble if they’re looking for any guidance from either of them. He has kids all over the place and they all probably depend on photos and Frasier reruns to remember what he looks like. And Camille, well…we’ve seen her in action.

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     Pixielated
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 1:46 pm

     With that pair of parents, the kids are better off NOT interacting with them. I just hope their nannies are good people, and give them the love and guidance they need.

     Yeah, Teresa (hate her!) does have more maternal instinct, but look at what she’s doing to her kids.

     Generations of children of affluent families have been brought up by nannies and governesses. Having someone focused on the children can be a good thing. It’s just a shame most rich folks don’t pay them a decent wage. Sure, they get their beef curtains trimmed and buy Chanel rags, but the nannies barely make minimum wage. That’s why so many of them are illegal aliens.

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     Zombie Cheez
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 2:40 pm

     Anal bleaching is the in thing things year? My how times change… And I thought crack-whore was a bad job description.

     I wonder how the employment ad would be worded?

     Looking for someone who is flexible and good at working around large holes, but no excavating work required. Job hazards include the occasional gas explosion, dirty work sites and some sites may require more prep work than others. No experience necessary, latex allergies and weak stomachs discouraged. Salary DOE.

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     marijai
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 2:49 pm

     @ZC…at the nail salon I go to, the anal bleaching & waxing is listed with the aesthetic (sp? too lazy to look it up!) services. LOL

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     Matt Lam
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 3:15 pm

     I even tried it once. Just to feel “in”.

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     marijai
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 3:40 pm

     @Matt Lam…the bleaching, the waxing, or both??
     Wait…I’m not sure I want to know…..! LOL

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     sarcasatire
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 4:02 pm

     @Matt, I mentioned anal bleaching upthread. Yes, they were all the rave..I saw it on Dr. 90210, a porn star was getting it done. Then after seeing a few pornos, I noticed that they all had it done..no more brown eye. *shudders*

     I figure, why not get the works..full Brazilian (which includes a ‘crack’ wax), anal bleaching (to make everything harmonious in tone), and if you’re feeling daring, a vaginal tuck, to bring back that firmness that may have been lost after pushing a watermelon out of something the size of a peach pit.
     Kegals are fine, too. And for the moms out there, there is a product called a Pelvic Toner, from a UK company. It’s a ‘vaginal exerciser’..and it works. (I blog about mommy and baby products and the company sent me one to review. So, yea..I’m (we’re) happy with the results. For around $25, it’s a low-budget tuck, lol)

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     Matt Lam
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 4:17 pm

     @Marijai: I get waxed on a monthly basis. My butt crack and well, the goodies lol. So it wasn’t a big deal to get on table and spread ‘em, for the bleaching. It supposed to take three applications to really work. I only did one. I didn’t like the feeling.

     @Sarcas: Mine wasn’t brown. I just thought it was too pink lol.

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     olderandwiser
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 4:29 pm

     This is nauseating. Can we please change the subject? Can we talk about how much we hate Camille instead? And Teresa?

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     sarcasatire
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 4:31 pm

     Matt, lol! Just curious about wax..do you used the ‘hard’ wax, the one that doesn’t require cloth strips because it hardens? Or do you use regular wax, which uses strips to remove hair?

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     Matt Lam
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 4:37 pm

     @Sarcas: He (my “waxer”) uses the hot wax with the strips of cloth. It’s the best way to do it, apparently. It’s done in a salon, so they must know what they’re doing. I hope lol.

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     itchy
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 4:43 pm

     Never a dull moment, here at TVgasm.

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     sarcasatire
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 4:57 pm

     I recommend trying the hard wax, atleast once. It’s how I’ve been doing it since living in Brazil and it’s virtually painless! With the strips, I find they sometimes have to go over and over the same tender spots as all hairs may not adhere to the cloth the first time around. Well, when you apply the ‘hard’ wax (which is hot and melted), and after it hardens, you rip off the wax which takes off everything, and there’s never a need to go over the same area..less irritation and a shorter time on the table!

     The place I go has three kinds, hard wax (most expensive), sensitive wax (use strips but less painful), normal wax (with strips). If you have fine hair (which I don’t), then the regular wax is great. But for sensitive gals and first timers..the less pain the better!

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     sarcasatire
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 4:59 pm

     @itchy..is that the avatar you use for Chatroulette?

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     Matt Lam
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 5:10 pm

     LOL @ Chatroulette comment.

     Omegle has more penises than Chatroulette. FYI.

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     pantsonfire
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 5:19 pm

     So can one bleach their own piehole or must a professional do it. I mean I wax my own lady parts, is it feasible to bleach my own piehole???

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     Matt Lam
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 5:21 pm

     I think you can buy the stuff, to do it yourself. If you want to know what it feels like. Rub Nair/Veet on it. Leave it for 10 minutes. Then writhe in pain for next two weeks.

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     lindaw205
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 5:43 pm

     I’m sure there’s another place to take the personal hygiene educational, perhaps PM’s? Mentioning it is one thing but I really don’t wish to know the details.

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     pantsonfire
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 6:06 pm

     Linda- just trying to lighten the joint up a little- have you noticed all the heaviness of the posts. I guess we really can’t talk in mixed company without being chastized for wondering….pondering….joking….

     I feel like my mother is lurking here. If I wanted to ask my mothers opinion on bleached pieholes, I’d just go ahead slap my own mouth. Maybe I need a list of exactly what we CAN discuss. If so I’ll just stop posting for Chirst’s sake!!! (Come on- someones gotta have an issue with Christs sake)?

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     lindaw205
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 6:13 pm

     I simply asked, politely, because I realize how off topic things can become when having an entertaining back and forth. I meant no offense. I made a request and let you know that how I felt which was somewhat uncomfortable, and you’ve let me know how you feel. Thanks for listening.

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     Matt Lam
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 6:25 pm

     @Pantsonfire: If you do the Veet/Nair thing, you could change your name to pieholeonfire lol. Sorry. I become immature when I’m tired.

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     pantsonfire
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 6:32 pm

     @Matt Lam Stop It! Sssshhhhh My mom might get mad. pieholeonfire love it! Almost as much as I love Fudge- wait bad reference- Waffle Crisp cereal- as much as I love Waffle Crisp Cereal that’s it.

     Did anyone catch the Real Housewives skit on SNL Monday Night- to funny.

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     sarcasatire
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 6:35 pm

     Haha..that’s a great name! pieholeonfire..love it!

     I guess if any board is gonna inspire discussions on beauty secrets, and wacky spa treatments, it’s gonna be the Real Housewives of beverly Hills. Sure, it may seem gross, depending on if you’re familiar with them, but I guess depending on where you live and the spa/salons you frequent, this kinda talk happens without so much as flinching. And once you get past the awkwardness of contorting your body so a stranger can reach your naughty bits, talking about it is easy as pie! (no pun intended)

     @Matt: lol, now I’m curious to check out the Chatroulette site. I saw an ad for it on Gawker and there were all of these crazy masks and costumes..I was equally intrigued and creeped out. Itchy’s mask (avatar) is giving me a similar feeling..

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     Pixielated
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 7:35 pm

     Well, I’m shocked, simply shocked! Don’t you guys know that “piehole” means MOUTH?? That’s why people say, “Shut your piehole.” If you want to talk about buttholes, it’s CORNHOLE, people!

     @Matt: Your mileage may vary in Canada.

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     sarcasatire
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 8:51 pm

     Good point, Pixie. Haha!

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     pantsonfire
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 8:54 pm

     @Pixielated Great now two things I have to bleach….

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     hollagirl2
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 8:57 pm

     @pantsonfire, aww come on, lighten up on linda. I think she was trying to be very courteous about expressing her uncomfortability with the turn of the convo.And I’d much rather prefer that type of respectful request than past remarks.
     I definitely agree though, that lightening up the comment sections is the right direction to start going in!
     @linda- the details were not my cup of tea either! So I feel ya, but I just checked out of reading them when it no longer interested me. Thanks for keeping it cordial

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     Matt Lam
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 9:23 pm

     @Hollagirl2: How can you NOT be interested by the color/level of smoothness of my deriere? LOL.

     @Sarcas: Well, Chatroulette turns on your webcam. Mine is built-in, so I had to cover it, to check the site out. I saw a lot of male appendages. Like, lots. To me, it’s mostly a place where old pervs flash their tiny, hairy dicks to kids.

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     sarcasatire
     Posted November 3, 2010 at 10:22 pm

     @Hollagirl2: yea..what Matt said. Haha! But in all fairness, I think however courteous the request, it is a little presumptuous to come on a comment board and ask people to change the subject because you don’t like it. Maybe a tactic that would be better received would be to introduce a topic that is of interest to you and see if anyone picks up the topic for converation. On many boards, there are several convos going on at once, and sometimes people direct their comments to specific people and they go off on their on tangent (like the boxed wine commentary on the ATL recap), while other people may be writing in their thoughts and opinions or answering questions posted upthread. It all kinda works around here.. And even if you may not like a specific ‘tangent’, things usually die down on thier own as other matters pop up for discussion.

     @Matt: were they wearing face masks and stuff? I guess that’s why they’re so bold… If only Disctrict 11 knew what their school chancellor was doing in his free time!

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     itchy
     Posted November 4, 2010 at 12:35 am

     Chatroulette? Ugh. Nope. No way. But yeah, this was the mask for this year’s halloween costume. One of the creepiest I’ve had, although my Ballerina Superman from a few years back got a lot of people angry at me. And then there was the Red Guy costume…

     And yeah, piehole’s a mouth. Because you insert pie into it. And a cornhole’s a… hey, holdonnaminnit…

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     sarcasatire
     Posted November 4, 2010 at 1:08 am

     Because corn always leaves it!

     Haha..I love the costume! Like I said, it creeps me out but also intrigues me at the same time. Makes me anxious and inquisitive..like I need to know more. I guess, what I’m saying is that I am possessed with the same curiousity that killed the cat.

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     2muchbravo
     Posted November 6, 2010 at 8:28 pm

     The only nice thing one might be able to say about Camille is that she helped Kelsey thru his addictions. Otherwise, I dislike her immensely. Yes, it’s pretty despicable what he did, but maybe he got tired of her little “Hee hee aren’t I cute,” act and moved on to someone younger and perkier. I really hate the faces and innuendos she makes in her talking heads.