Gasmii of the Order of the Sister Wives, the worst thing ever has happened to me. What crisis has befallen LadyBaldy, you ask? MY DVR DID NOT RECORD THE FINALE OF SISTER WIVES. I feel like Kody when he couldn’t find the tools to hang the TV:
“Why does technology hate me?” I don’t know man, but I feel you
In order to write these recaps, I have to watch the episodes a couple times and since the tell-all episode IS NOWHERE TO BE FOUND ON THE INTERNETS, I cannot recap it yet. All I can find is the Logan picks a school episode. I know. There are no words to express this letdown. There are faces:
“Why put EVERY episode on the internet except the best one?” I know, right?!?!
Meanwhile, the tell-all is airing again tomorrow and I plan to re-watch in all its horror and delve deep into the hour of Q and A. Yes, I know all the good gossip is in the the tell all! Believe me, this is not how I planned things to go…much like Christine and the “third is not the same as last” debacle.
“Now you know how I feel! I’ll save you a seat over here in Resentmentville!!”
Because of this madness, I am obviously VERY delayed in getting the recaps up. They will be up TOMORROW or I will become as Sister Wife myself! I’m also going to read their book and we’ll definitely need to discuss it in a TVGasm Very Special BookGasm. WE SHOULD ALL READ IT AND HAVE A BOOK CLUB, YO!
I know the most fun part of this whole thing is to talk about the episodes right after you see them so that you can get all the WTFs out. Thanks for your patience, and please keep the wind in your sails so we can discuss everything in major detail as per usual. You’re all my Janelles and Logans, trust.
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I have to admit, after watching the q&a show, I downloaded the book and glad I did. I was surprised at how much tension still between the wives and how egotistical I find Kody and the stupid things that have come out of his mouth. I also find it very interesting that out of the 4 older kids asked only Mariah was gung ho for being polygamist. Anyway will be waiting your recap anxiously to hear your take.
@LadyBaldy I didn’t see it till yesterday. I don’t think anybody’s internet friends got it up before then. I’m going to watch it again too.
Anyway thanks for putting a minicap update. I know you must be about to bust a gusset. Like me and everybody else that’s watched it even once.
I’ll bet you have Time Warner Cable – those bastard DVRs always seem to not record the most important things. It’s like TWC likes to piss on other people’s joy.
Or to put it in Sister Wives speak – TWC is like the authorities in Lehi, UT – they are just trying to keep the SDubs down, man!
Mine did not record the tell all either. Than my manual recording of it was incomplete
because normal houses are now house boats in Florida. Don’t feel too bad–it’s not like
your husband of 20 years just told you on national TV that he
is not physically attracted to you and actually thoughts of you while
you were dating made him vomit.
And for the record–I’m Team Janelle. Why do you need a
giant house Meri??? I guess my status of childfree by choice
has me confused by Meri’s lifelong despair, but seriously she doesn’t need a
freaking 7 bedroom house!
well holy joseph smith!!!!
you missed the tell all show..it was when we learned the truth…all the wifes cant stand each other..kody really thinks the first three are now fat and crappy..”thank the mormon god kody has robin and her herpes..”. it was a sad show but showed the viewers how all this time it was just a act..i guess a man jumping from bedroom to bedroom and only touch one wife must be rough..poor king kody!!!
LadyB, your uncap was hilarious! The only thing missing was Robyn. Robyn, Robyn, Robyn. WWRD?
I agree with snowshoecat, LadyB, your “uncap” was sheer genius — especially the photos and captions. I just couldn’t bring myself to watch this series, but I’ll see if Time Warner has put this Q&A in OnDemand so I can thoroughly enjoy your brilliant recap.
@amandalee27 i’m with you, team janelle all the way! i think in the tell all we learned a different side of meri. and that fact that she had so much tension with both janelle and christine explains why her and robyn got so close so fast.
Wait till you see it, LadyBaldy – it was classic. Cannot wait to read your take on things.
Team Janelle.
Thank goodness LB, I thought something happened to you! I kept checking and checking for the recap.
I’ll do it for you if you like- Kody is still a douche bag, the end.
I’m not technically very astute but if you have a DVR -doesn’t that mean you have cable? No-don’t throw things.Because if you had cable-or a neighbor did, you could watch it On Demand. Yes? Hey- network.
Baldy, count me in on the SDubs book club! Can’t wait for your full recap! Now where are my nachos?
Penny, nachos? Ooooh I love nachos and I have a nice little salsa recipe. Be right over.
I’m team janelle too. But after that episode I might just migrate over to Team Christine because I feel so awful for her!!!! Cody sucks big hairy balls, you guys.
Seriously, even Meri was like “um, not cool!”
*sigh*…can someone please pass the nachos?
You guys are the BEST! Thanks for your patience.
@KartOffMuter – for some reason, the tell-all episode is not available On Demand, Amazon.com or iTunes. TLC is holding out on us for some reason. If anyone can find the full episode online, please let me know! I’m going to watch the re-broadcast tonight but I won’t be able to get all the pics I want if the video is not available online at all.
@LB – just keep using the same one of Meri and changing the captions.
I kinda like her “WTH?” look anyway. It goes with SO MANY things that happen in the Brown household(s).
@MummyButterfly, I think Meri’s face says WTF, not WTH !!
@Pat Ledoux – true, but I’m not dropping the “F” like Logan! I’ve got children watching me.
Oh, man! I have so much to say about DowntownKodyBrown, but, you guys would not like the things that would come out of my mouth!!
Here is the thing, that douchenozzle said that he didn’t like “chunky” women. Umm, but, –I am not trying to be mean here, I am just stating a fact. Looking at the pictures too–But weren’t J & C both “chunky” when he “married” them?!? Stupid effer! I hate that guy!!
Wait, ok now I have a dumb question!! This has been on my mind since he brough Robyn into the family. I know he and Meri are legally married. But with J, C, and R he had comitment(SP) ceremonies, or did he legally marry them as well?! I am thinking. Because you have to get a wedding license in most places. Most places looking to if you are already legally married and they are also making sure that you aren’t going to marry your cousin.
Also Meri and Janelle were SIL’s before the became Sdubs…could it be that Meri never really got along with Janelle, like ever!?!? Christene has always been a bitch from what it sounds like, but it just shows more when Robyn came into the picture…I really don’t want to go and buy this book…!But I so want to read it. Maybe Mr Z will get me a kindle for our anniversary, and I can download it or something…
Sorry I am getting way ahead of myself here! I will wait for the recap to go into it more…if anyone wants to talk more about it, lets discuss on FB
Buggy, you raised a very good question! fLDS men marry one wife legally and then have “spiritual” marriages with the others which, while not legally binding, are regarded as binding by the community. This is why I never understood the state of Utah’s problem with the FLDS.
Sorry, but most Kimdle books cost about as much as paper ones. Best sellers, anyway. The library is your best bet. That’s where I’m getting my copy.
i don’t watch this show, i just read baldy’s delightful recaps, so all the hints i’m getting from the comments are driving me crazy about what happened! you guys are such teases!
@michkabibbles I know how you feel. I read the recaps but don’t watch the show. I think I might have to watch the episode tonight.
@LadyBaldy: Maybe you can find the episode here: http://www.1channel.ch
So, Snow, you are basically telling me that for the price of my kindle, I can get the Sdubs book, and Betthany’s Skinny Dipping and still have money left over for the 50 shades trilogy? Yeah, I just might do that instead!
Also, thanks for the info on the FDLS. I knew it had to be something like that. I mean, they all say they are married to that douche, but Really I know only Meri is. It seems like she only has that “connection” with Robyn….just saying….hmm
@ SSC (and by extension thisbuggs4u) — the mainstream LDS church gets all up in arms about FLDS-ers still practicing polygamy because when they rejected the practice in order that Utah could become a state, it was due to a “special revelation” that the president of the church supposedly received from God. Apparently, he made it clear to the Twelve (I guess the closest description for them is they are to the LDS president what cardinals are to the Pope. Kinda.) that this revelation was only to hold for a certain time and one day they would be able to openly live polygamous lifestyles again. Because polygamy is an inherent doctrine to the Mormon faith. Most modern Mormons honestly don’t know that polygamy is commanded and expected, and are so ignorant about that portion of the roots of their faith that they are sincerely baffled and offended when people stereotype Mormons as polygamists. The LDS church is very good at slowly doling out information to their congregants — why scare converts off with the full truth up front when you can give them tidbits at a time until they’ve been fed so much crap over the course of several years that they’ll swallow just about any doctrine without questioning it. Which is how cults work.
FLDS (and mainstream Mormon) doctrine teaches that a woman can’t enter the Celestial Kingdom (the most special level of heaven, reserved for the truly faithful) unless her husband calls her by her Temple name when he is resurrected. Because only the men are automatically resurrected, you know. FLDS and the original Mormon texts also teach that the lifestyle of sacrifice that is inherent in polygamy is also necessary for entrance into the Celestial Kingdom. Modern Mormons get a pass on this because of the special revelation, but from what I understand, every so often in the LDS church a young man is selected to go join a FLDS sect (Kody Brownesque, not Warren Jeffs) and take multiple wives in order to keep “the principle” alive until the day when the church can openly practice it once again.
For a better understanding of the mindset of the FLDS church (although definitely coming from a more Warren Jeffs than Kody Brown sect) and what the LDS life really looked like under Joseph Smith & Brigham Young, I would highly recommend that you read Jon Krakaeur’s Under the Banner of Heaven. There are also numerous books in the same section of the library written by children of FLDS polygamous families, wives who escaped, etc. There are also several memoirs written by people who left the Mormon faith, many of whom were converted as adults and made it far enough into the church to get their Temple recommends before realizing what they had signed up for.
And finally, just because if I have to know this then so do you, Google “Mormon soaking.” I don’t know if it’s true, but it’s weird and funny and deeply disturbing.
Stepping off my soapbox now. I get super-intense about the whole LDS/FLDS thing because any religion that changes the rules (but not really) every five minutes in order to remain more culturally acceptable makes me extremely nervous and angry. If you believe in something, believe in it. Eat for it, sleep for it, fight for it, live for it, die for it. Anything else just makes you look more of a hypocrite than you were already going to.
SuperB, you continue to amaze me!!! I’ve talked about the FLDS before, but you do it such a more interesting way.
I’ve read just about every book written by former FLDS, and have become profoundly depressed in doing so. It is so hard for most of us to imagine what women suffer in the name of tradition and religion. Or, as you so aptly say, a cult. I’ve left the modern LDS alone, but apparently I need to educate myself on them too.
Warren Jeffs is one extreme, but DTKB may well be the other– a cafeteria FLDS who selects the parts of the fundamentalist beliefs that suit him. What galls me is the fact that polygamy in any religion (and there are surprisingly quite a few) is based on strict adherence to the tenets of that religion. The Browns don’t seem to know what their faith entails. Birth control? Huh? Wife quorum? Nope. Alliance with a central organization? ????????
As you said, SuperB, it all smacks of the big H. Thanks for getting me even more interested. Curious.
@SSC — I will bet you dollars to donuts that the Browns know EXACTLY what their faith truly entails, but they choose to portray the more appealing, culture friendly aspects because that’s what the LDS church at large has been working on since the 1890′s. It’s a bait’n'switch, and it make the editor’s jobs at TLC easy because they don’t talk about their faith much (technically they’re not really allowed to talk about most of their faith to outsiders anyway.)
Birth control? Bullshit they use any form of birth control other than scheduling around ovulation as best they can. I would imagine that many a night was swapped between wives when Janelle or Christine just wasn’t ready to deal with another baby quite yet. Most FLDSers believe that intercourse at anytime other than when the woman is fertile is a sin, anyway, because every sperm is sacred, every sperm is great. If a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate. Masturbation and fellatio to completion are right out.
Wife quorum? Douchebag McHaircut gets the final say on everything in that house (those houses?), otherwise the women would have made him chose a different hairstyle yonks ago. Besides, women can’t be priesthood holders so why give those second-class citizens the final say in anything?
And I’m sure they’re still under the authority of their old church back in Utah, even though they can no longer join them for weekly services, school, etc.
Being cool with gay marriage? Of course they are, because once gay marriage is widely accepted, then how can polygamy remain illegal. But Mormon doctrine teaches that homosexuality is inherently wrong — how is a man supposed to become a god and have his wives make him thousands of spirit babies in the Celestial Kingdom if he’s busy sticking it to another dude? Don’t be silly.
Not caring what religion their kids choose to practice as adults? I believe that they won’t ostracize any of their kids who don’t stay in the faith, but I can guarantee you many a sleepless night for Christine and Robyn over any of the children who reject the polygamous lifestyle, even if they remain in the LDS or FLDS church. I do, however, think that Meri and Janelle will be secretly relieved about every girl in that family who chooses monogamy. And Kody will be trying to subtly win any and every future boyfriend/husband who believe in monogamous marriage over to the polyg team.
That’s my opinion, anyway.
wow, thanks so much to ssc and suburbint for all the information. unfortunately, everything i know about mormonism i learned from south park (only a slight exaggeration). i’ve seen a couple of specials on the history channel about various sects and groups, and it’s fascinating, but hard to watch at times.
SuperB, mentioned birth control because they were so reluctant to discuss it. Even saying it was up to the individual. FLDS are very strict abbot sperm as you know, but why get coy? Oh yeah. As you said. The editors. I agree.
And FLDS are very strict about that quorum. Not DTKB. That is why I call BS on his being a real FLDS.
I just get upset about a program that purports to let us in on the lives of polygamists and doesn’t do the job. Just like the Rom. We’ve been had.
I thought that the interview about the book was very interesting, however.
Every sperm is sacred
every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted
God gets quite irate.
Hahaha!! SuburBint is a poet!!
The only thing I know about Mormons (aside from Big Love) is when i did a shoot outside of Utah at the salt flats and one of the models was a former Mormon. He said that when he was in school (seminary?) all of the older kids would head down to Vegas for the weekend, get married, have tons of sex, and get an annullment before heading back to school. Why? Because premarital sex is a sin. Duh.
SuburBint..you are a boss!
I read “The 19th Wife”.
My sister lent it to me. She called me to see how I was liking the book and I told her I had to put it down because it was sending me into a RAGE.
Secrets and Wives: The Hidden World of Mormon Polygamy by Sanjiv Bhattacharya is another book that broke down mormon polygamy. There are many sects within the “branch off” from the mainstream mormon church and this guy really delves into what is going on in each branch. Downtown and his bunch are a part of the Allred Group (AUB) which is touched on in the book. I had no idea Christine was related (then again, aren’t they all) to the big wigs of this bunch..which infers to me why they could have celebrated ole’ Joseph Smith’s birthday. I like this book a lot b/c it’s not told from a survivor’s perspective; the guy is a journalist….and as far as religion goes, an atheist. He goes through each sect..and even breaks down the mainstream mormon church and how it is one big cluster**** of what suburbint touched on…it caters to the culture. Anyway…that’s my plug. read the book or at least some reviews over it. ….looking forward to the recap. LadyBaldy never disappoints.
Ok, here is a tiny tidbit about me that you gals (and guys?) don’t know about me…I am/was Mormon. I go with the am/was because, A-technically I am now. I was baptized 8 years ago…Its a long story! since I am “Mormon” I can go to the temple and witness people getting married. If a mormon marries someone that comes into the faith, they have to have a civil ceremony for the spouses family…
I met Mr Z not to long after I was baptized. None of the elders knew that I was dating. Then again they never asked me about my personal life. I Was older then the Brothers-you know the guys that walk around in their white shirts and ties with backpacks that knock on your door in the afternoon. At the time I was going to school to be come a pharmacy tech, and working at Starbucks no less!!
Yeah they didn’t like that, at all! I was 24, and looking for some direction. They guy I was dating told me he was Mormon, but couldn’t move ahead in our relationship because I was not the same faith…Yeah he wasn’t as hard core mormon and you’d think! -wink wink! So I met with people, Was assigned a host family, although they were married it was still neat. The husband worked for Merck or Phizer so that was helpful to me with my studies. But then it got different. Yes I was still going to bible study and church, and meetings and stuff. I was working, going to school and just starting out with MR Z. I noticed that everytime I did stuff with my host family and the Brothers, the Wife never talked. Ever! She made dinner, but only spoke when I spoke to her. Then I was asked to change my schedule at work! I worked most nights after I was done with school. I also happened to work the nights that we had church or bible study. That really pissed everyone off. One day when I was out with MR Z I guess the brothers went to work, spoke to my manager about changing my days!! Oh, I was so pissed by then. So, my hours at work went down hill, my grades went down hill because I was always doing church stuff. They didn’t care that I was trying to put myself through school, albeit a shitty one!
Then, one day, then best thing ever happened!! I was at home, Mr Z and I were married, noone knew yet, we were getting ready to move me from my aunts house to our apartment. We were sitting at the kitchen table, I was studying for a test, and the doorbell rang. It was the trio of brothers. They were kind of surprised that MR Z opened the door. They asked if I was available and he said”no. she is not”. -snicker- They asked who are you, and then he said, “I am her husband!” They were all shocked!! And with that, they left!!
So technically, I am Mormon. I had to ask for forgiveness for some earlier choices in my life. I could have lied and said no, but I was in church, surrounded by the brothers and the elders of the church, what was a girl to do? But both Mr Z and I come from Catholic families. We don’t practice anything. The last time we were in church was last summer for a wedding. I do know about the Celestial kingdom. I do remember that your husband had to call you there, but I don’t remember anything about him having additonal wives! But I am pretty sure someone is saving me a front row seat in hell
I just watched the tell all episode. It was my first time watching this show and I have headache now from frustration. (-_-;) How can the rest of you watch this every week. I think I’ll just stick to the recaps.
Thanks for the advice, sagittariuskim; I’ve never watched the show but love the recaps, and on your advice I’ll keep it that way. LadyB, you are such a giver!
@thisbuggs4u….. I just love the way you and your husband are so down for each other.
He sounds like a good man.
Buggy, that is just so amazing! We have a mole!
Seriously, what an awful thing…wonderful thing.. To go through. You are a very strong woman in a strong relationship to have stood up to them. I had a friend in college who had escaped a poly marriage and was so traumatized that she couldn’t talk about it. The mere mention sent her into a sweat.
I assume you were a “conventional” Mormon, rather than fundamentalist.
Another great book (from among the many I have read) is Predators, Prey and other Kinfolk: Growing up in Polygamy. She was raised a polygamist, married into a polygamist marriage, and her story is well-written without much of the bitterness that seeps through other books.
Saw the show last night and Hubbycat was just amazed. I was too. It was the most revealing yet, and the interviewer asked some tough questions.
@thisbuggs4u — So your Mormon experience, if I’m understanding correctly is this: You converted when you were looking for direction/answers/all that early 20′s is-there-really-a-meaning-to-life stuff. After you converted, the church began putting more and more demands on your time and your life, to the point where your school and work were adversely affected. But they didn’t actually build any sort of meaningful relationships with you, and didn’t even know that you were in a serious relationship and then got married. That’s pretty sick. And I firmly agree with what sheesh said, it sounds like you have a fantastic marriage.
@michkabibbles — Did you see the South Park episode about Scientology where “This is what Scientologists actually believe” kept flashing across the bottom of the screen? They could have done the exact same thing for the Mormon episode. Everything you learned in that episode was true.
Fun fact, Joseph Smith came from the “Burned Over District” in upper NY State where several semi-Christian offshoots originated, including Christian Science, the Shakers, and the Oneida Free Love Commune (which grew into the Oneida crockery company and also once was home to Charles Giteau, the man who assassinated President James Garfield.) Something in the water, maybe?
OMG, I am an insufferable know-it-all. I don’t understand why you people put up with me, really I don’t.
Insufferable know-it-all? Never. Font of information def!
My only knowledge lies in the realm of trivia. Nobody wanted to be against me in the game. I get phone calls at odd hours, as I’m sure you do. Only your information is useful.
My apologies, SuburBint, but my nitpicker antennae started vibrating when you said the Shakers and Christian Science originated in the same area of upstate New York as Mormonism and the Oneida Community. As confirmed by Wikipedia, the Shakers actually originated in England, but came to the U.S. through missionaries, and Christian Science began in Boston in 1879. So sorry; it’s a reflex. Like asking stores to change the “15 items or less” sign to “15 items or fewer.” (Yes, I’ll admit it, my English usage can be old-fashioned.)
My fascination with Mormonism arose when I read two books about the Mormon murders of 1985. Although both books (“The Mormon Murders” and “A Gathering of Saints”) concentrate on the events surrounding the murders, there is some very interesting background information on the religion itself. Then I found out that my cousin, a widowed Lutheran, and his new wife, a Jewish woman, decided to become Mormons. That was years ago, and I’m still befuddled as to why a perfectly intelligent doctor and his equally intelligent wife would convert to Mormonism, complete with a year’s worth of supplies in their basement. Nevertheless, if he wants to do that baptism thing after I’m dead, that’s OK with me. I believe in hedging my bets…
@Pegalicious — no worries, I appreciate being corrected when I’m wrong. And I’m with you all the way on “15 items or fewer.”
I’m so happy to read that other people have a problem with the “bait and switch” aspect of Mormonism. It’s the hardest thing to get across to people who say, “It’s a religion like any other religion.” It really isn’t.
@Pegalicious — Okay, a bit of research reveals that the Shaker’s first communal farm in the U.S. was located in the Burned Over District, so that is where my confusion arose. And the group that Seventh Day Adventism eventually evolved from also originated there — must have been thinking of that when I said Christian Science. So I’m still wrong, but it’s comforting to know that I’m not completely talking out my hat.
I’ve mentioned before that if my life had a theme song, it would be the “The More You Know” ditty from the NBC PSAs, so please feel free to set me straight any any tidbit of information whenever you catch me in an error. (I would insert a smiley face here, but I have recently had to give them up.)
@maryedith — any organization that doesn’t give you all of the information right off the bat should be strongly suspect. It’s one thing to naturally learn more about one’s faith after converting, it’s another thing entirely when you have to put in a certain amount of time or show a certain level of commitment in order to be given access to basic doctrine. That’s how cults and pyramid schemes operate.
@SuburBint — Thanks for the info; hadn’t a clue about the origins of the Seventh Day Adventists. And of course you weren’t talking out of your hat; THAT is only acceptable when an angel named Moroni is somewhere in the vicinity.
Thanks ladies!! MR Z is a great guy!! The look on their faces had to have been priceless! It is really hard to share this with people over the internet. I could write pages and pages…With that particular ex-bf there was a life choice I had made, and he didn’t particularly see why I made the choices I had made, and he thought, that some spirital direction would do me good…I agreed, I just didn’t think it would go as far as it did. But then again, at no time did anyone ask me how I was doing, feeling. Anything. I had basically told that particular bf to go eff himself. He was hypcritical too. My choice was bad/shameful, but here he was going out dringing, and being bad….not living the Mormon lifestyle..
Yes I was looking for direction, just not that direction into being some subdued housewife that did everything her husband wants…This is why I find Janelle having a job so interesting. But hey she had to pay their bills somehow! jk
@Pegalicious — You have officially won the internet with that statement. ROFL