Double the Pleasure, Double the Fun, Double the Immunity Idols

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survivor11-03-05aWow, so I guess I spoke too soon when I called last week’s Survivor boring, because for the second week in a row we got a bunch of filler and not too much action. We did get a new twist to the game, but overall it was actually a slower episode than last week. I was really hoping that the merge was going to do something for the overall excitement of the game, but it looks like we are going to have to sit through a numbers game as the former Yaxha members are picked off. Unless something drastic happened to convince some people in Nakum to vote against their tribe, the only suspense was going to be how long Yaxha could postpone the inevitable. But hey, if watching even the most boring of Survivors keeps me distracted from all of the stupid referendum phone calls, then bring it on.After voting out Amy, Yaxha made their way back to the Nakum tribe. They were sent in the middle of the night so they didn’t get to bring any of their stuff with them right away, and them other tribe was sleeping when they got there. They all knew they were outnumbered, so they decided on a strategy. Gary was the one who said “just play stupid and work hard for them,” but I think that was short sighted. You can probably do well playing stupid because you have Bobby Jon, but not even he can bring the stupid that Judd deals with on a daily level, and when you add in Jamie, playing stupid is probably the last thing you could do and beat Nakum.

Tensions have been high between the two teams, and the physical nature of the challenges has really turned some people against each other. Afther the teams were shuffled, Yaxha seemed to be ready to coast along to victories and with the way they were beating people, decided they didn’t need their most athletic person, Blake. Now, I have never been a fan of Blake, and there was no way to tell if he would have been the difference over the last few weeks, but if the rest of his teammates could have just ignored him while he talked about all of the big-titted chicks that he slept with, maybe things would be different.

Anyway, words have been said about many tribe members, but it was basically all about how much Bobby Jon disliked Jamie and Steph and vice versa. As soon as Yaxha came in and told them what was up, Jamie was ready to show who was boss, saying that there wasn’t enough room under the shelter and he hopes that they don’t mind having to sleep outside. This really pissed off Bobby Jon, and I was reaching for my drawl translator to try and figure out what “I’m going to knock every one of your team slam out yo head” was supposed to mean. I think it loosely translastes to “I am going to kick your sorry ass and pound your face in.”

Knowing that they were outnumbered, the only thing Yaxha decided that they could do to make themselves wanted was to do a lot of work and hope people noticed how helpful they are. Therefore, the next day, all of Yaxha decided that they would look for wood. It’s kind of sad to see that as soon as a weaker team comes into the picture, the team with more members lets the minority break their backs. It would become a theme for the entire episode. And even though Yaxha was collecting wood, it soon became a big joke among some of Nakum, who at first laughed at Yaxha for how much wood they were collecting and then got almost upset because they wouldn’t stop collecting wood when they were told.

Rafe and Lydia got some new treemail, and inside there were paints and a flag for the new tribe. They had to come up with a new name, and so they called it Yhaxkum, which is actually not a bad matchup when you think about it. It’s not the pure lyrical brilliance of Brangelina or TomKat, but it will work. This gave Lydia a chance to wind herself up and do some more dancing, but the pancake didn’t make a reappearance.

More important than the new tribe name came a twist in the game. There was an immunity idol hidden in the woods, or as I like to call it, the Guatemalan jungle – woods is so Deerhunter and Deliverance, but jungle is Survivor. The immunity idol was only six inches long, enough to make Jamie jealous for sure, but easily concealed in the jungle. This immunity idol would be separate from the idol won in the competitions.

As soon as people heard the news, everybody started fanning out into the jungle, looking for the immunity idol. For the people of the old Yaxha, it was a chance to keep themselves in the game, and for the people of Nakum, it was a good way to ensure that their numbers wouldn’t be in jeopardy any time soon. We got a shot of what the immunity idol looked like, but I was really hoping for one of those Amazing Race shots where they show a team passing right by the thing they were looking for. Also, I was wondering how they kept the monkeys from stealing the idol and moving it, or eating it for that matter. The only person who gave up was Rafe, who instead of finding the immunity idol, found a nest of hornets. He placed his hand directly on the hive and was a stung a few times in the process. He took this as a sign of the gods that he shouldn’t look anymore. He did say he was the worst at finding anything, but that’s because he usually limits his search to a closet of some type.

There were other things besides the old Nakum being sort of domineering with their attitude towards their new members that pissed the old Yaxha off. One thing they couldn’t stand was the overwhelming negativity that seemed to surround the Nakum camp. It had to really bother them because the Brandon, Gary, Danni and Bobby Jon decided to just leave and go fishing together, leaving the rest of the people to plot their demise. Judd called it a slap in the face. After all, he was using all of the time he saved by not having to collect firewood by sitting around and complaining. Why should they go out and get food too?

I am always surprised to see Survivors complain about parts of the game that don’t go as they went before. Sure, we bloggers do the same thing to some extent, but I think we have come to realize that there are going to be a number of twists, and this time, it looked like the producers weren’t going to treat everybody to a big feast just because they all made it to the merge. All of this complaining really started to get to Rafe. When the new people came on, he wasn’t expecting all of this “them vs. us” type of talk, and he started thinking that perhaps he was on the wrong side. He wondered if he was on the Axis of Evil and perhaps he was contributing to global warming just being in their presence. How bad was the complaining on Nakum? Not even the presence of the Yaxha pool was enough to stop them from complaining.

In a season of firsts on Survivor, the immunity challenge was going to be a contest to see who was the best pot head. No, they weren’t going to make people smoke the jungle ganja and see who was the last to fall over, but they were going to all put ceramic pots on their heads and see which pot was the last to fall over. Balancing the pots on their head was made easier by a bag of padding, and each person who participated in the challenge had to stand still on a piece of wood until there was nobody left. Anybody still in the game after an hour would go on to a tiebreaker.

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There was a further twist to all of this as Jeff told them that any person who decided that they didn’t need immunity could step off to the side and enjoy a feast. Jamie, Steph, Rafe, and Lydia all took this option, meaning Judd and Cindy were up against all of the old Yaxha for the immunity. Even during the challenge, things were not peaceful. Jamie started to rub it in to Bobby Jon and Bobby Jon started talking back. Jamie’s trash talk eventually upset everybody around him, including his teammates who were still in the running for immunity and even his teammates that were sitting down and enjoying the feast. Rafe was so bothered, Stephenie had to calm him down. It seems that Margaret wasn’t so crazy when she talked about the poor sports that were on her team.

We are led to believe that the new tribe is a single tribe, but the fact remains that they are still two tribes sort of forced together. There is no way to really battle this happening other than switching the tribes each week a la Tommy Hilfiger and The Cut. Anyway, Jamie revealed the obvious when he said that Judd was up there protecting their lead which finally put it all out there as to what the true nature of the game was going to be.

Danni, who earlier complained that her head was too round, was the first to be eliminated. If I were her, I would worry that her hip bones are going to stab somebody in the eye. Maybe Lydia, or perhaps Judd, can breast feed her or something because things are getting desperate here. After her elimination was the tie breaker, which was also a balancing act and involved climbing a set of pyramid steps. The first person to get to the top or the person who got the farthest without their pot breaking won immunity. Gary won the game without much fanfare, but at least it gave him a reason to show us something other than that stupid Edward Munch face he keeps on giving us. Have you ever watched Gary when he’s in the background? I swear he has dentures and he’s playing with them in his mouth or something. Why else would he constantly have his mouth in the shape of an “O” at all times? Did he break his jaw? Can somebody break his jaw to make him stop?

Back at camp, we quickly learned how they were going to try and play tribal council. Brandon, being the most physically fit of the other team, was set to go first. I know Brandon is an athlete, but other than chopping ropes with stone, is there really a reason to be so scared of him? Apparently there was, or maybe Bobby Jon and his pleading with people how much he wanted to be on the jury finally had some effect. On the other side, there was Jamie. His words pissed off many members of his camp, including Judd. We were hearing words like Rafe saying he couldn’t respect himself if he went far with Jamie and Cindy saying that Jamie didn’t deserve to be there any more than Brandon.

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At tribal council, there was actually a little question as to how the votes would go. Jeff once again tried to stir up the voting by asking questions that were critical of Jamie. Jamie did his best by getting into yet another fight with Bobby Jon, this time about class and self-respect. He really had no argument, however, as even his teammates were telling him to stop after a while, and it prompted Jeff to sit there and shake his head over the whole thing as well.

Did Brandon have any chance? This was one of the more exciting tribal councils, because there was really a ton of negative feelings towards Jamie, but all of his tribe members stuck with him and Brandon was voted out 6-4. It looks like Cindy’s last words meant more than a bad seed. “The game is not about who you care about,” and she was there to win.

If there were any schemers at all, this game would have been a lot of fun. I think that Jamie should have been a sitting duck, but nobody on the old Yaxha was campaigning besides Bobby Jon, and even that was an accident. The sentiment was so high against Jamie that they should have been mentioning that the old Nakum could stay in power even if they voted out Jamie because it would still be 5-4. Unfortunately, Brandon seemed resigned to the fact he was going home early on when Jamie was telling him point blank that he was on the chopping block. Gary rarely sticks his neck out for anybody, and Danni was wondering how she could take a picture of herself now that she was in the best shape of her life. Point being, it should have been easy to flp Nakum. Still, I think that there is an off chance that Rafe or Cindy might switch allegiance, at least once. I hope something happens, because we need a coup of that nature to turn the game around for us forced to watch it at home.

What did you think of the episode? Is the second immunity idol a good idea or not?

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64 Comments

  1. 1
    Posted November 7, 2005 at 12:26 am

    I like the hidden idol idea. We have side bets on who will find it. Also I like the idea that you have to use it before the vote. What if no one was even thinking about you and you whip that boy out? What a waste. But funny!

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    dave
    Posted November 7, 2005 at 12:27 am

    Someone forgot to edit!

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    Trumpoline
    Posted November 7, 2005 at 3:29 am

    Bobby Jon blowing snot rockets to puntuate Jamie’s sentences really minus some of his hotness points.

    But I don’t care.

    I want him to find the idol because I really can’t see him winning any challenges that involves solving puzzles.

    To Jamie(err…why-do-i-look-like-john-mayer?): When you need someone (with ADD) like Judd to tell you to shut up, you’re in big trouble.

  4. 4
    deviedoo
    Posted November 7, 2005 at 4:23 am

    J-Unit – you totally missed the best line in the episode which was when Brandon stated that if Jamie got voted out he would crap his pants! priceless!!

  5. 5
    melg
    Posted November 7, 2005 at 4:59 am

    Hey, great recap. I spoke with Danni yesterday at the Chiefs game, and she still looks like she is in the best shape of her life. She was very nice. I don’t think too many people realized who she was..although they did show her on the big screens a few times.

    Hugs, not drugs!

  6. 6
    Lizardqueen
    Posted November 7, 2005 at 7:00 am

    I like the immunity idol hidden in the woods idea. But I HATE that you have to produce it before the vote. That is sooooo stupid. It changes nothing. It hardly throws a wrench in the works, and I’m all about throwing a wrench in the works. Imagine, if you will, that Brandon had the idol. The voting goes down. The Probester “tallies” the votes. Then in a dramatic fashion Brandon says “Aha, M-er F-ers, I’ve got the idol.” Then horrible asswipe Jamie would have had the most votes. It would add more suspense, which is desperately needed. Otherwise, as has been pointed out, the voting goes along old tribal lines. Boring!!! I can not stand that people in this game don’t seem to have much sack. I mean why didn’t Rafe and/or Steph vote for Jamie? Who would know? I would vote for whoever I felt like and then lie about it. Shake it up a little.
    Does andyone remember the best Hottie-Jon insult? I can’t think of it but at the time I was hoping it would be in the re-cap.
    Why did Gary need immunity? Shouldn’t he have let one of the others win it? Why did any of the former Nakums participate in the challenge? What face was there to save? Could Jamie be a bigger douche bag? Is Rafe gay or Mormon? I used to like Lydia and root for her, but I know I feel like she’s a bit of a wart. Kind of a hanger on. I do enjoy her singing and dancing, but she must still be left because every team needs a mascot. Gary definitely has some dental issues. He is like one of those old loopy people who are constantly jawing at their ill fitting dentures. Looks like some of his bottom teeth in front are either missing or rotten. That must smell delicious out there in the jungle.
    P.S. I am still traumatized by the Probst Porn from last week. How does that wind up on the internet? Why would he stand naked in a messy office and appear to offer his schlong like he was a waiter at a nice restaurant displaying a bottle of wine?

  7. 7
    Posted November 7, 2005 at 7:40 am

    Not sure why, but the funniest line for me this week was Bobby Jon (to Jamie): “I’m not gonna let you Big Boy me!”

    Looks like Bobby Jon is finally going to achieve his “lifelong” dream of being on a Survivor jury.

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    Lizardqueen
    Posted November 7, 2005 at 8:19 am

    Thank you 33jones. That was precisely the line I was thinking of. For some reason I thought it was a riot. I’m gonna make sure to say that to someone later today. Everybody knows, “I’m not gonna let you big boy me” is the new “I’m Rick James, bitch”

  9. 9
    Posted November 7, 2005 at 8:32 am

    Lqueen,

    I think the Probst picture is a fake, if that makes it any less traumatic.

  10. 10
    chick110
    Posted November 7, 2005 at 8:46 am

    LOL, LQ!! I got those pics from a friend too and kept looking for a weird neck line (yup, THAT’S why I was staring at the pics…), but didn’t see any. Kinda like pasting Oprah on a skinny body, but I guess this would be in reverse…

    I also agree about the immunity idol being lame. I, too, think it would be so cool for someone to spring it out after they’ve gotten too many votes so the other person who thought they were sitting pretty (in this case, Jamie who definitely is NOT pretty) would be kicked off. That would be so much better!!

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    America's Next Top Fan
    Posted November 7, 2005 at 9:00 am

    where can i find that probst pick?

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    Mike
    Posted November 7, 2005 at 9:15 am

    Bobby Jon’s “big boy” remark was Pure Southern ‘Rasslin’-inspired trash talk. All it lacked was Jamie coming back with, “You couldn’t whoop half my ass with the other half helpin’ you.”

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    jack
    Posted November 7, 2005 at 10:01 am

    yeah, this one was a bummer, and the existence of a tight nakum majority does not bode well for the show’s entertainment value over the next few weeks. worst of all, the jerky boys are in control, with queen bitch steph pulling the strings. it would have been fun if rafe, cindy, and/or lydia would have flipped, but choosing not to upset their very secure positions in the game was the smart move, if not the more pleasing. brandon was easy to like, but if your best strategy when targeted is to stare off pensively into the distance, you sort of deserve to get your torch snuffed.

    yaxha’s mistake all along has been confusing this idea of ‘deserving to be there’ with playing strategy. j-unit, you are dead right that the turning point in the game was the stupid idea of booting blake, who not only might have helped yaxha win another challenge or two, but who would have been a perfect person either to serve as a target or to end up with in the finals. they made the same mistake when they joined nakum, choosing to target jamie for being ‘undeserving,’ when they should have been persuading lydia, rafe, and cindy to re-up with them against the queen bitch and the jerky boys, who doubtlessly intend to get rid of the weaker, more likable trio once they’re through with the yaxha purge.

    rafe and cindy may yet flip, but they’ll probably boot jamie or judd because he’s a pain in the ass, when their number one target should be steph, who is pulling the strings. my guess is that rafe’s plan is to let the axis of evil take out b.j. and danni and then, with lydia and cindy and gary as the swing vote, knock out steph and one of the jerky boys, then sway lydia and gary to boot cindy, leaving himself in the final 4 w a reviled jerk (judd or jamie), a liar (gary), and a coat-tail rider who’s been carried from the beginning (lydia).

    but even smart people act like raving idiots on survivor, especially when they’re the ‘nice guy’ type. only fat nudist tax evaders and pornstar/used car salesmen seem to know how to scheme.

  14. 14
    Lizardqueen
    Posted November 7, 2005 at 10:34 am

    ANTF,
    There was a link in comment #48 from last week. The comment wasn’t at all descriptive so I just clicked. Not safe for work? What’s work? Thank you J-Unit. I am less traumatized thinking it’s a phony. Porn is just not appealing to me in any way. Even though that person had a pretty nice bod I still feel like gagging. I just think I’m allergic to porn. Now, in the flesh…
    Oh, I almost forgot. How about the previews for next week!!! I think Peter “Judd” DeLuise gets cocked, blacks out, and pukes in the shelter. I can not wait for that! LOVE those wine and beer rewards.

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    Katrina
    Posted November 7, 2005 at 11:05 am

    My Bobby Jon love has gone up a bit after this episode. Gah I hate Jamie, why couldnt he have been the one to leave?

    I agree that they shouldnt make the contestants show the hidden idol before the votes, it would be SO much better if they could use them after the votes are read.

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    bernige
    Posted November 7, 2005 at 11:35 am

    What makes you think the photo of Jeff was a phony? I showed it to my husband and now he almost refuses to watch the show with me because I keep making funny comments about it – and he does not want to be reminded of it. I think it’s real, it would explain a lot about why Jeff is the way he is!

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    chronic
    Posted November 7, 2005 at 11:35 am

    Getting rid of Blake didn’t make any difference at all for Yaxha. The next episode was the one with the double tribal council, so no difference there, followed by the one with finding those puzzle pieces in the sand, which only two members – Brandon and Bobby Jon – could do anyway, and athleticism wasn’t really a factor beyond lifting the pieces. I could’ve cried when Brandon got stuck on that last piece though *sniff*. (Blake might’ve helped on the reward challenge with the Indiana Jones ball, but I think idiot twins Jamie/Judd were pretty much unbeatable, and Yaxha did manage to win the next reward.)

  18. 18
    Tiffany
    Posted November 7, 2005 at 11:57 am

    Brandon was my favorite. I will only be reading the recaps from now on.

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    pixchik
    Posted November 7, 2005 at 12:07 pm

    Two words: Stadium Steps!! There was no way Gary wasn’t going to win Immunity — the challenge was specifically designed for a football player. During his years of playing football (grade school to pros) he has to have run tens of thousands of rows from the bottom of the stadium to the top and back down to the field in conditioning drills.

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    juddfan
    Posted November 7, 2005 at 12:25 pm

    Looks like you called it out, Jack.

    Perhaps next week I’ll have to change my name–well, I guess I never said it was his personality I dug . . . that jerky boy!!! I have to say, what an ironic pleasure to hear him say over and over, “just shut up”–and not be talking to himself!

    Jamie is evil–evil evil evil, and it made me sick to see his sinsister leer, and not have him get axed by surprise!!! even if he did do his plan of taking Judd to the end, I’m not sure it’s such a slam dunk for him to win. He really should have seen having BJ in the jury will only hurt him! (as opposed to a chance with Brandon–slim I’m sure)

    I could see Lydia and Rafe making a move, not sure about Cindy, but since Judd, Jamie and Steph are so strong, I’d expect their threateningness to come up soon. Lydia and Rafe could end up doing well in all this, I still see some power struggles that will take some time to resolve and soon enough, they’ll be down to the last few.

    Looks like Judd has a vomit episode in camp coming up . . . ooo, what a turn on!

    J-unit, loved the breast feeding!!!

    Lqueen, I’m still reeling too–I can’t imagine what would bring about such a picture, or pictures, and I keep thinking they’re fake, but then, cropping his face would be such a stroke of genius!

    (and how to explain that skin flap–being a photoshop guy myself, I’d not have added it, and would likely have removed it)

    Oh, and A’s next top fan, there’s a link to the pic in the former episodes feedback (I think last one) if you want to share in our collective trauma.

  21. 21
    September
    Posted November 7, 2005 at 12:51 pm

    I didn’t even know Cindy existed until this week’s episode. What has she done for me lately?
    Her “speech” at tribal council should have not only changed HER vote, but should have changed Rafe’s and maybe even Judd…

    The next one that needs to go is Stephanie. She is SO annoying. Does nothing but complains.

  22. 22
    anon
    Posted November 7, 2005 at 1:06 pm

    I agree that the immunity idol should be a ‘secret’ that can be used any time up until Jeff says ‘the tribe has spoken’. Like the week when there were 2 tribal councils…how much more suspenseful was it when you had to hope that the person you voted for didn’t get the immunity? It means that you have to hope that you weren’t the ‘second’ choice!

    Maybe we’d have some weeks where more than 2 people get votes, like the ‘majority’ side of the tribe splitting their votes in hopes that if one of the two people they voted for has the idol then at least the other one would go.

    I also hope that they don’t show US who gets the idol. I kept hoping that they would only show us that it was removed from the tree and not tell us who got it. Then that would give us something to speculate about…who has it? when will they use it? etc.

  23. 23
    shelley
    Posted November 7, 2005 at 1:43 pm

    (didn’t have time to real all comments)

    was i the only one seriously turned on by the alpha-male verbal scrap at the immunity challenge??

    hel-looooo men! woof!

    i am now officially a big fan of BJ’s (tee-hee).

  24. 24
    flymotha
    Posted November 7, 2005 at 2:20 pm

    I loved Brandon, SO sad he got voted off. And yes, I can’t believe you forgot his “I’m going to crap my pants” line. Classic. At least we finally got to see him without that big hat on before he left.

    You also forgot to mention that Rafe nearly CRIED during the immunity challenge while Jamie was acting up. I can’t stand him. And does anyone else think it’s strange that a wilderness guide isn’t good at finding anything?! I think I’ll skip that tour… he’ll walk me right into a hornet’s nest.

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    Dana
    Posted November 7, 2005 at 6:52 pm

    Did no one else notice the hypocrisy on Gary’s part when he was lecturing Rafe about morals and integrity in trying to convince him to vote out Jamie? I mean COME ON DUDE! You’ve been lying the whole game! That guy is a piece of work. I think that the lesser knowns of the alliance (Rafe, Lydia, and Cindy) should stick with the six until there is only Danni left and then pull her in as a 4th to vote out Jamie, Judd, and Stephenie. I hope someone finds that other idol too. I agree with those who think it would have been better to have them use it after the TC voting.

  26. 26
    Victoria
    Posted November 7, 2005 at 10:13 pm

    I hate seeing all the people I like getting voted off, while the assholes stick around. I really liked Brandon. How boing is it going to be to watch them pick off Bobby Jon, Danni, and Gary in the next 3 weeks. I hope something happens to shake things up. I was so pissed when Stephenie was telling Bobby Jon she would try to get him ninth place. How generous of her! I hate that bitch. I hope to God my precious Bobby Jon wins individual immunity next week, and that the challenge is not a puzzle.

    Congratulations to Rafe for officially joining the axis of evil. Do you really think any of those assholes are going to let you get beyond the final four? They are all so reviled they will never take you to the final tow. I guess being a wilderness guide who can find nothing in the wild, by your own admission, means you also couldn’t find a backbone in addition to the testicles you are missing.

    Also a special shout out to Cindy. Way to guarantee yourself sixth place! Excellent scheming.

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    Victoria
    Posted November 7, 2005 at 10:17 pm

    I forgot about our favorite sociopath Jamie! Now 99.9% of people on Survivor are trying to make it in the business. It even says in Jamie’s bio that in addition to having a twin named Ramie (hysterical) he was also on All My Children. Who on earth would hire this guy after the way he has acted on Survivor. I was watching with a friend and she said he looks like he could be moody. I say he looks like he could be a serial killer.

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    Fuzzbait
    Posted November 7, 2005 at 11:28 pm

    “…the immunity challenge was going to be a contest to see who was the best pot head. No, they weren’t going to make people smoke the jungle ganja and see who was the last to fall over”
    Rafe “Mountain Wind” would so win that challenge.
    I agree, what kind of wilderness guide is he that can only find a hornets nest? Jeff Healy would do a better job guiding me in the wilderness. “And now, children, here is a nest of water moccassins, and they really love to be shaken…” What a douchebag!

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    TWilliams
    Posted November 8, 2005 at 1:47 am

    Jamie didn’t use to bother me but now I cannot stand to even look at him. A few weeks ago I thought Bobby Jon was the bumbling idiot, now I know that I was wrong.

    Why can’t someone shut Jamie up by telling him to go cut a rope? Shut the hell up.

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    Lizardqueen
    Posted November 8, 2005 at 5:11 am

    “Go cut a rope” makes me laugh my ass off every time. Wasn’t that the best? I forgot about the Steph trying to get Hottie-Jon ninth place. Such a deal. Has it not occurred to any of these ethically ambiguous dorks to switch back to former tribal allegiances? I would love for just one of these people to evolve into a vertebrate. It would be so rad. I mean, it’s a flippin’ game show where you’re trying to win a million dollars. You don’t REALLY owe anybody anything. Why not ally yourself with fun, pleasant people that you enjoy being around? Why would anybody choose to be with brooding, angry Jamie? I now wish that Bobby-Jon would’ve given him a good old fashioned southern beat down during the turkey stand-off a few weeks ago. Has there ever been a Survivor fist fight?

  31. 31
    Mike
    Posted November 8, 2005 at 7:49 am

    I read somewhere that after the Robb-Clay choking incident in Thailand, Survivors were warned that it was now official show policy that you would be kicked off for fighting.

  32. 32
    general dreedle
    Posted November 8, 2005 at 11:24 am

    Isn’t about time for Danni, Gary, and Bobby Jon to start scheming? The only real leverage they have is their seat on the jury, what don’t they use that? They should all approach a different member of the axis of evil in confidence, preferably Lydia, Rafe, and Cindy and tell them if they don’t vote them off they will give them their vote if they make it to the final two. If two of them were to turn, well then, there you go. It’s not much, but what else can they do?

  33. 33
    Posted November 8, 2005 at 11:47 am

    There is plenty of time to scheme. I think Rafe was really on the edge last time, and I could still see him switching, along with maybe Cindy, who was originally Nakum and won for the most tribe spirit, so she may still like Danni and Bobby Jon. Lydia seems like she might go with Rafe, if for no other reason than to not piss off her card playing partner.

    I agree with everybody here who said that Lydia, Rage, and Cindy need to get their acts together because there is no way they are going to get into the top three in the current alignment.

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    Mike
    Posted November 8, 2005 at 12:33 pm

    Hey J (re: #34),

    “Rafe” as “Rage” = Funniest typo ever.

  35. 35
    Posted November 8, 2005 at 1:09 pm

    You nailed Gary’s jaw for me, thanks. I was wondering what bothered me so much about his face.

    Your breastfeeding line…too funny!

    The whole recap, very funny.

    Brandon was my favorite too. Damn it! I really don’t like anyone else at all, it’s almost not worth watching. But like the good little Tube-Feeder that I am, I suppose I’ll keep nursing away at it.

    Oh and I don’t think Jeffie’s “probe” was real either. Looked Photoshopped to me; a pic of his head stuck on some other guy’s bod.

    If you look *very* carefully, you can see the photo quality of the face and the photo quality of the body are different. At least, I thought so and I’ve done some photoshopping at times.

  36. 36
    Posted November 8, 2005 at 1:25 pm

    i “Rafe” as “Rage” = Funniest typo ever.

    Hahaha. I bet Rafe would love Rage, not that there’s anything wrong with that.

  37. 37
    WeaverFan
    Posted November 8, 2005 at 1:27 pm

    I am hoping that Rafe is a Mormon so Lizardqueen can pontificate about how he is not a real Mormon, just like she gave us a sermon telling us that the Weavers were not real Christians.

  38. 38
    chronic
    Posted November 8, 2005 at 1:55 pm

    ???????? Where the hell did that come from? Why Rafe? Why Mormon? Aren’t Mormons Christians? Are you Ned? I’m confused.

    And I believe her point was that aspects of their behaviour are un-Christian. Why they are.

  39. 39
    chronic
    Posted November 8, 2005 at 1:56 pm

    Whoops, *which* they are, I mean.

  40. 40
    jack
    Posted November 8, 2005 at 2:19 pm

    the weavers may be christians, but they’re still huge redneck jerks (the mom, anyway–you can hardly blame the kids for turning out rotten when mom’s egging them on to treat other people like crap).

    rafe is a mormon according to CBS, and clearly he is having a hard time being associated with the asshole patrol, but i don’t see any inconsistency between his game and his beliefs. the fact is that rafe’s well-positioned for the moment, as jamie, judd, and steph will draw most of the ire for routing skeletor (sorry, danni, but the rexy look is getting a little sickening), bobby jesus (he of the righteous anger), and the soulful farmboy.

    i think you’re right, j-unit–rafe and cindy are thinking ahead. i felt like i saw signals that gary and rafe have some sort of side deal going on. i think rafe wants to flip the tables and is just being patient. they know they can’t wait around too long, but their chances are better with the jury if they let steph and the jerky boys take care of the dirty work. we may have to wait a week or two for things to get interesting, but rafe and cindy are too smart to end up as pawns in steph’s master plan.

  41. 41
    Lizardqueen
    Posted November 8, 2005 at 2:27 pm

    Hey Bitch-hole,
    I never said the Weavers weren’t Christians. I just said they suck ass.

  42. 42
    juddfan
    Posted November 8, 2005 at 2:32 pm

    Dana,

    You should try out for next season–very clever!

  43. 43
    WeaverFan
    Posted November 8, 2005 at 3:00 pm

    Lizardqueen, ummm, then what did you mean when you said:

    “Let me point out that they are the most un-Christlike people to grace the small screen since Jim and Tammy Faye. Their very shallow understanding of faith, their enormous hypocrisy, the fact that they seem to practice a form of Hinduism all the while calling it Christianity is alarming.”

    You are bigger hypocrite then the Weavers are! LOL

  44. 44
    Lizardqueen
    Posted November 8, 2005 at 4:18 pm

    OMG! LOL! WTF! BTW! Boy is my face red! I am so ashamed of myself! I hereby repent of all my sins. Please allow me to bow down and fellate you, Oh Righteous Weaverfan.
    Psyche! There’s nothing I love more than getting a Weaverfan’s panties in a twist.

  45. 45
    WeaverFan
    Posted November 8, 2005 at 5:15 pm

    While I am flattered by your offer, I must decline (and I am sure I am not the first nor will I be the last to decline such an offer from you). Don’t worry, all is forgiven St. Lizardqueen, patron saint of Bitter Self-Righteousness and Meandering Never-ending Posts.

  46. 46
    Lizardqueen
    Posted November 8, 2005 at 8:06 pm

    You are so right. Not only am I a really awful and terribly long winded comment writer to a TV blog, in addition to being the Lizardqueen I’m also the bj queen. I have a nasty crack habit. I too am flattered that a superstar such as yourself goes through the trouble to read my drivel and hate it so much that you memorize it. Weaverfan you have followed me all the way to the Survivor section and I just want to thank you for your support. You make me want to enter rehab. Now, in turn, I would like to encourage you to come out of the closet and admit that you are Linda Weaver’s mother.
    Let’s take this back to TAR area. Or do you wanna just step outside?
    To everyone else: Sorry I engaged this attention starved ball bag. I’ve learned my lesson. Back to one big snarky family. I heartwithacirclearounditandalinethroughit Weaverfan.

  47. 47
    Victoria
    Posted November 8, 2005 at 10:42 pm

    Who the fuck are the Weavers?

    And no, Mormons are not Christians.

  48. 48
    chick110
    Posted November 9, 2005 at 5:28 am

    The Weavers are these self-righteous people on Amazing Race. They keep telling everyone that they are so religious and then talk about everyone behind their backs, throw trash out the window of their car at them and ask other people to slow the racers behind them down. Then they whine and complain that no one likes them. Uh, yeah… Plus, the two daughters only packed one pair of shorts apiece which are about three sizes too small, so we have to watch them waddle around painfully in these too tight shorts.

    Back to Survivor…

  49. 49
    Dana
    Posted November 9, 2005 at 7:19 am

    yes- back to Survivor. Lizadqueen- you’re very fuuny btw, TVGasm should hire YOU!

    juddfan- thanks for the props! I would LOVE to be on Survivor. It’s my fave show. I play Fantasy Surivior on the CBS website, which is cool as hell. I’m a zookeeper and used to work for the same people that Cindy did, so I’m rooting for her. I don’t think that she’s a dummy in this game, b/c I read that she’s put her life on hold trying to get on Survivor for the past 4 seasons. I think that she’s just waiting to make her move. I would not be willing to put my life on hold like that though, so I guess I’ll just have to keep watching.

    J-Unit- I have a question for you. When the original contest was up on this site before the show started where we picked who we thought would win, there was no option of choosing Bobby Jon or Steph b/c no one knew they were gonna be in it. How’s that gonna play out if one of them makes it to the top three?

  50. 50
    Dana
    Posted November 9, 2005 at 7:24 am

    I made a typo- Lizardqueen. Now I spelled it right.:)

    I also know how to spell funny, and Survivor.LOL.

  51. 51
    chronic
    Posted November 9, 2005 at 9:43 am

    #48, And no, Mormons are not Christians.

    Ah yes, they just call it the “Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints” for shits and giggles then.

  52. 52
    Joe
    Posted November 9, 2005 at 10:15 am

    Mormons like to portray themselves as christian so it will be easier for them to lure christians to mormonism. Mormons believe god was once a man. Christians do not. Mormons believe in multiple gods. Christians do not. http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/mormon/beliefs/christians/christian2.shtml shows a nice chart comparing the two.

  53. 53
    TV-OD
    Posted November 9, 2005 at 10:43 am

    Speaking of Jeff P. porn – he made a cameo appearance on Comedy Central’s Drawn Together season premier(if you haven’t seen it, it is a cartoon reality show) where the cartoon version of Jeff whipped out a rather giant “imunity idol” from his pants. Hilarious.

  54. 54
    chronic
    Posted November 9, 2005 at 10:44 am

    Multiple gods??? You make it sound like they’re pagan. So they have a slightly different belief in the Trinity, big deal. Besides, a lot of aspects of Christian doctrine were debated by theologians over centuries and only definitely resolved in relatively recent years.

    Anyway, I tend to take a more literal view that belief in Christ makes one Christian, regardless of the rest, and regardless of being hypocritical a-holes like the Weaver.

    Ew, sorry for all that non-snark.

  55. 55
    chronic
    Posted November 9, 2005 at 10:47 am

    whoops again, that should be *definitively* resolved, and WeaverS in the plural, naturally.

  56. 56
    juddfan
    Posted November 9, 2005 at 11:52 am

    LizardQueen!!!!!

    I have a nasty crack habit. I too am flattered that a superstar such as yourself goes through the trouble to read my drivel and hate it so much that you memorize it.

    You Rock!!!! I agree, you could definitely write for tvgasm!!!

    And Dana, I’ll root with you for Cindy–hopefully she’ll hear your clever ideas through the nethers. . . and I don’t think you have to go to a 4 year extreme to be on Survivor . . . Cindy must be obsessed!!!! Good Luck if you decide to try–I could never go on Survivor myself . . . though as a diet plan it’s unbeatable!!!

  57. 57
    Victoria
    Posted November 9, 2005 at 1:01 pm

    Mormons are not Christians is a statement of fact-not a slam on Mormons.

  58. 58
    Lizardqueen
    Posted November 9, 2005 at 3:26 pm

    Thanks ladies. I needed that. I’m honing my stand up material. SO tired of being a crack whore-stay at home mom. Know what I mean?

    So far Cindy seems pretty one dimensional. My new favorite is Anyone But Jamie.

  59. 59
    chronic
    Posted November 9, 2005 at 4:40 pm

    #58, from what I can tell seems more opinion than fact. Any Mormons in the house? Hm, probably not. In any case, I’m pulling for Rafe. I quite like his deck of leaves and otherwise general haplessness.

  60. 60
    Lizardqueen
    Posted November 9, 2005 at 7:04 pm

    Love the deck of leaves. I’m a little worried about the shuffle.

  61. 61
    Victoria
    Posted November 9, 2005 at 11:02 pm

    Apparently the deck of leaves is the extent of Rafe’s wilderness guiding.

  62. 62
    Victoria
    Posted November 10, 2005 at 10:45 pm

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

    Not again! I hate Gary and his stupid immunity idol. It should have been him!

  63. 63
    juddfan
    Posted November 11, 2005 at 10:44 am

    But you at least have to give him credit for following Judd. I have to say, Judd is so unsubtle–it’s almost laughable. I love the look of wide eyed terror when he lies and gets called on it like Jeff did. I thought Jeff could have at least thrown in a red herring and not pointed straight to Judd and Gary.

    But I agree, Gary!!!! ugh!!!! Can’t we do another Survivor shocker and bring back Amy to knock out a player–I dont
    care who else goes. I think we should name Gary skelletor and Danni can be his corpse bride (but really, nothing against Danorexia–she seems genuinely nice and I hope she survives the six–though, the chances for spliting and redoing the numbers are gone–there’s only 2 left . . .

  64. 64
    Dana
    Posted November 12, 2005 at 7:39 pm

    let’s wait for the new recap juddfan- then we can post in that one. All I know is that I got hella-points in Fantasy Survivor this week!

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