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Thursday, November 29, 2012
11:39 am
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I’m gonna keep this short Gasmi because not only is there a TON of crap to talk about, but I want to try and get started on the full recap ASAP so I can get it done and posted faster. Hopefully I can blow off a couple of work things and get it to you some time tomorrow (fingers crossed).
Anyway, unsurprisingly, Scabby is not happy at her treatment at tribal council.
It’s only fun when I’M being mean to other people! Why do they have to be so mean to meeeeee????????
No one feels sorry for her. Denise lays out the plan for us: vote out Scabby. If Scabby does the impossible and wins immunity…..vote out Penner. But no one’s really worried about that since Scabby’s so useless in all the challenges.
The reward challenge is the Food Auction and there is a lot of stupidity going on at that thing. Seriously. I can’t believe these people. Spicoli is sweet and trades in the baked potato he won for rice and beans for the whole tribe.
Are these hemp ropes on these sacks Jeff?
He also wins another item which turns out to be a group chow down on a couple of veal shanks. So everyone loves Spicoli right now but that’s not gonna help him win the game. I’m predicting he’ll be out at four or five.
The immunity challenge is another stupid rope tangle thing (BORING) with a reverse macrame final round. Dumbest final round of a challenge EVER. (maybe not, but it’s the dumbest one I can think of right now)
That’s not nice
Shut up Jeff.
Join me back here soon so that we can talk about dreaming the impossible dream, just how may licks it DOES take to get to the center of a tootsie pop, and the steaming pile of crap that happened in a span of an hour last night. Again I say, the stupidity is astounding. Hrumph.
See ya there!
SWAK, PottyMouth
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Thank you for posting only ONE picture of the heinous Scabby.
Abi-Maria bid on that Immunity advantage instantly, so this is kind of a moot point, but even if she hadn’t done that, everyone else had already spent their money. What’s wrong with these people? There are two returnees and the rest are supposedly fans. Don’t they know that there’s usually an advantage at the auction? Don’t they know the telegraphed boot will always spend all they have on it? Don’t they know they usually go on to win the challenge? It baffles me that Denise or Malcolm didn’t save up their cash just to outbid Abi-Maria when the note came up.
That being said, as awful as Abi-Maria is, I want her to stay now. I was hoping Jonathan would play the role of the drama-causing antagonist in the finale, but he’s gone now. Now I need her to make the final five or this is going to be one really dry ending. I like Michael, Lisa, Denise and Malcolm, but they’re all a little too nice and balanced to provide drama. The show needs people like Jonathan and Abi-Maria to cause friction.
Oh, and what is Carter still doing there? I can’t believe someone who has been so irrelevant and so invisible has made it this far. Even Purple Kelly was out of the game by this point in Nicaragua.
Next time please post picture of Scabby crying. I like her best when she’s experiencing a bout of low self esteem.
Sad to see Penner go but, hey, it’s his own fault.
I second the vote for a crying Scabby. It’s the only pic of Scabby I care to see.
The auction drove me nuts, I think with only the exception of Fans vs Favourites (which I’m on a re-watch of) there is either a note/video from home they can bid on or a clue to an idol or advantage in the challenge.
I had just hoped it would be one of those challenges that’s a pyramid and everyone has to flip over pieces as they climb it. I figured Abi wouldn’t be smart enough to use that properly.
Abi’s tearing up the paper into little pieces so no one could … WHAT? Put it back together??? (smh)
Carter looks like A WHITE Wanda from In Living Color.
Probst going waaaay out of his way to make Abi look victimized – keep in as neutral as possible Jeffy or play the game.
Penner – u snooze u lose. Never slough off an invitation to an alliance – even if you have no intention of honoring it.
Auction blew – seemed staged that Abi almost knew when advantage was brought up with instant reaction. Also what happened to bidding on something hidden and disgusting like a cup of puss from a Skupin wound??
I agree that the whole aution thing was contrived–I am calling SHENANIGANS!!!!!! In fact I yelled it out last night. They have to keep that miserable troll. She has lasted b/c everyone wants to keep her close to vote off when they need a patsy. At final 2–who wouldnt with hold a vote?? She isnt any extraordinary player–we can all agree on that. It will be nice to see her tossed–and sadly I think its time for Lisa to go too. She seems very confused.
Is this the first time something disgusting wasn’t hidden beneath the cloche? This is becoming a show to see who wins the title of Ultimate Camper™.
It will be interesting to see next week. When she Abi tried to make Malcolm believe that there is “another” hidden immunity idol the obvious reply was “oh yeah, well let me see it.” I thought it was obvious to everyone else that she was just making that up at the immunity challenge. However Hot Cawfee – I agree – I think there is a possibility that we will s tart to see her being used by the various 2-person alliances (Skupin/Lisa “I really don’t know what I’m doing and can’t play this game even though I have been here for about 3 weeks longer than I should have) v. (Malcolm/Denise – who is still one of the smartest players I have seen for a while) as the wedge player. There’s gotta be three – and the remaining solo from either of those pairs is going to have some votes on the jury. If its just a pair and Abi, well the only votes she is going to get is maybe Peteand Artis, (although from their comments on Ponderosa, I’m not sure either one even liked her). That sets her up to be the perfect tool third person, as in either pair (Lisa/Skupin, Denise/Malcolm) I think that each member of the pair would see themselves as roughly equal to the other with an equal chance of winning.
One thing I have liked about these season is that there has been very little “predictable” votes. Not as many outright blindsides (although Jeff’s is close), but some unexpected turns at Tribal Council. Having the obvious odd man out (Penner, then Abi) win immunity has certainly helped.
I would like to publicly apologize to Derek H. — I’m starting to see what he means about Denise. She’s starting to seem awfully smug — and she ended up letting her guard down because of it. Well, they all did. Even though getting Penner out and keeping Abi in doesn’t hurt her or Malcolm, and ends up being to their advantage.
Skupin, on the other hand, should have taken the opportunity to break up the Malcolm/Denise duo while he had the chance. And Lisa…what a waste of space. Wish she’d vote herself off already.
Anyway, I don’t see anyone voting for Scabby — well, possible Artis and Peter, but that’s not enough to win the game. She looked cute at tribal though!
Penner…sigh. This is why the guy’s been on the show three times and hasn’t won. First he antagonizes everyone, then he gets all full himself and starts making stupid mistakes.
So yeah, I’m glad Scabies is still in, since at least she’ll be around to stir the pot. But I don’t think the show contrived to keep her in — well, it’s possible someone tipped her off that there’d be an “advantage” at the auction — but I doubt the challenge was specifically designed to appeal to the single skill set she appears to have (i.e., picking apart knots like a little rodent). She just lucked out, that’s all.
If Carter wasn’t such a dimwit, he’d realize he’s the next to go.
Jeff Probst answered a fan question about the auction. Apparently there was gross stuff — I think he said Carter bought chicken feet — but it was cut from the show.
I don’t think the auction thing was contrived. It’s just that the most annoying players — like Troyzan last season and Scabby this season — tend to be on the bottom of the totem pole (naturally) and thus they tend to spend all their money on the Immunity advantage. Then they win. It just bothers me that no one tried to block her. Even yelling out “$500!” a fraction of a second before her would have kept her from winning.
Itchy and Derek H. – I respect your opinions on Denise, but hear me out on this one. I think that she has played pretty well – remember she and Malcolm were down to just two (and Malcolm had an idol), when they got re-shuffled. She managed to survive that reshuffling, and then her second tribe started a losing streak and she managed to survive that as well. Maybe because of her 9-to-5 job she has less tolerance on her off time for pathetic whiners who are so absmally self-aware as Abi. As far as letting her gaurd down, I wonder if we were the victims of editing on this episode, as just about every episode she and Malcolm have talked through the next step. It should have been obvious after Penner’s talk with Lisa that Penner knew that he was on the block. He only has a a few moves – voting Lisa out or voting Denise out (assuming that he realizes he needs Carter and Abi to vote with him). He was closer with Skupin, hence his going to Skupin to vote out Denise. Malcolm still has the idol, so any suspicion about votes for him, and he plays it.
But I agree with you Itchy that Penner’s response to the proposal for “final four” was his biggest mistake. He should have at least said that he was in – even if he knew that it’s Survivor and nothing is over (until Jeff says its over). So yes, I think he got too comfortable and made a stupid mistake.
I still think Carter may throw the biggest monkey wrench in everyone’s plans. I know he’s not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but he’s one individual immunity twice (or maybe three times) and been second once (if not twice?) He’s got that wiry strong frame that seems to be perfect for these end-of-the season immunity challenges. However, if we have any “answer question” challenges, he’s screwed. (And I call foul on the producers – why didn’t we see the other questions that Carter apparently kept missing). The only reason he lost may have been the extra bags he was carrying around.
Abi seemed pretty smug for someone who only bought herself an extra 3 days. She does know that everyone still hates her right?
Someone tweeted Jeff about rigging the auction for her and he swears it wasn’t true but i’m not buying it.
Crankyguy is right – this is no longer Survivor. Remember in Australia when Tina risked her life going after the rice because they had nothing else to eat?? Now most of the contestants hardly even lose any weight they are so well fed!
I’m still on the Denise & Malcolm train. BUT whoever (maybe Derek H?) said last week that her hair is horrible, I have to agree after watching last night.
Agree with mere and crankyguy. Up until this season everyone has been starving and ready to eat when they got to Ponderosa and it doesn’t seem like a big deal this time. I don’t remember them getting beans before but I’ve only been watching since the season Sophie won.
And I’m still liking Denise but now you all have me closely watching her facial expressions.
I called Shenanigans last night too. Not about the auction since she was the only one left with $500 I think BUT about the final leg of the challenge, which was undoing the knots. I think those knots were made very easy to undo while the other people’s knots were tied much harder. Looking at her challenge history, Abi never even came close to winning one and now all of a sudden she wins this one where she was sure to be going home. Hmmmm. Just kept shaking my head trying not to yell at the TV. Until they start yelling back at me, I find it takesway too much energy.
@brzysmom12, I think you may be on to something about the knots. Plus, they helped her even more with the question twist so that her competition would have a good chance at coming into the final round saddled with extra weight while she just breezes in fresh as a daisy. Shenanigans are afoot.
I call BS as well! I told my husband before the show started that there was no way Scabby would stay unless it was rigged for her. How much more obvious could it have been that the plan was to keep her in the game for ratings? Not only did she get a free pass to the final challenge round, they made sure the final task was the easiest AND that her competition would be winded! Agreed, someone else could have bought the advantage, but everyone felt pretty safe, and Scabby’s prior performances in challenges showed she wasn’t a threat. Grrrr -I just didn’t want to have to see her on my TV another week EXCEPT as a juror!
I’m confused by this “they eat too much these days” meme. I’ve watched the show since the beginning and I haven’t really noticed a trend. The reason Tina risked her life in Australia for the rice is because they didn’t ration their rice properly. They ate too much too early on and were left starving by the middle of the game, which is when Jeff came to their camp and traded their tarps (and Colby’s Texas flag) for enough rations.
They also get beans periodically. It depends on the season. The Tocantins group definitely got beans. The only season where I think people were really starving was Africa, since they were basically in a desert, and you know what? That was a miserable season to watch. People just didn’t have any energy and it was really dry and dull.
Furthermore, the cast in the first season, Borneo, had a ton of supplies.
I’ve noticed they never give them rice during a season in Samoa (Samoa, Heroes vs. Villains, South Pacific, One World) because there are enough coconuts, plantains and bananas for them to eat. Seasons like Nicaragua and Redemption Island, though, which took place in environments that didn’t have much food to forage, are seasons where they get plenty of rice.
I do agree that the reward and auction feasts are more elaborate than they used to be, but I’m also pretty confident that they spend most of their time puking their guts out off-camera after indulging in so much at once. If you watch the Ponderosa clips, people seem to be losing the same amount of weight as they always have.
I think it’s just that the show doesn’t focus on them being hungry or foraging for food anymore. It was a big aspect of the show in the early seasons, but these days it’s “all strategy, all the time,” so we don’t see the survival aspect as much, even though it’s clearly going on.
Ultimate Camper. Heh, I like that. I have been calling this season Big Brother on an island, but I like Ultimate camper better.
Instead of getting a certificate saying “Worlds Best Camper” at the end, you’re handed a million dollars.
I think we should see the survival aspect. After all, it is Survivor.
I have to respectfully disagree and say this reward crap has to stop. I think that when you are on Survivor a reward should be a few hooks to catch fish or a blanket to keep your butt from getting rained on if you didn’t build a good enough shelter. And if it so happens that it is a fancy dancy food reward; they should be given some hamburger meat and hot dogs and told to cook them! And be grateful for it!
Looking forward to your recap PM. Thanks for the mini.
@crankyguy – You’re so right about the questions twist. I was so focused on how easy she was getting through the knots plus the editing cut out the questions part so I forgot about that extra weight. Loved your shenanigans are afoot! I’d offer up Shenanigans are aknot — if that was even a word.
You guys would love the French version of this show (which is running right now). The medical team had to intervene and insist that one of the tribes be given matches — the tribe hadn’t eaten for TEN days (other than a few nibbles of oysters). And then, they only gave the tribe TWO matches, which they had to pay for by giving up half of their rice (only 4 kilos for 10 people, which they had won during a challenge but couldn’t cook). And not only that, but the prize for the French show is only 100,000 euros.
I don’t believe people get assigned to their spots on the challenges — they’re probably drawn randomly. I’d like to believe the final leg was designed for Abi’s little fingers, but these challenges are all designed and built months in advance. So, like I said, she just lucked out on this.
The questions twist: maybe. But that means the producers would have taken the risk that Scabies got the answer wrong as well.
And definitely the others were cocky idiots for going for the food and not trying to get that advantage. Abi and her horrible acting made it quite clear that was exactly what she planning to do during the auction.
You guys would love the French version of this show (which is running right now). The medical team had to intervene and insist that one of the tribes be given matches — the tribe hadn’t eaten for TEN days (other than a few nibbles of oysters). And then, they only gave the tribe TWO matches, which they had to pay for by giving up half of their rice (only 4 kilos for 10 people, which they had won during a challenge but couldn’t cook). And not only that, but the prize for the French show is only 100,000 euros.
I don’t believe people get assigned to their spots on the challenges — they’re probably drawn randomly. I’d like to believe the final leg was designed for Abi’s little fingers, but these challenges are all designed and built months in advance. So, like I said, she just lucked out on this.
The questions twist: maybe. But that means the producers would have taken the risk that Scabies got the answer wrong as well.
And definitely the others were cocky idiots for going for the food and not trying to get that advantage. Abi and her horrible acting made it quite clear that was exactly what she planned to do during the auction.
Whoops!
I agree with everyone that said the final leg of the immunity challenge was total bullshit. They made it something easy for Abi to win. The first 2 legs were physically difficult and the last one was untying little knots that you can undo with 2 fingers?! The producers must take us for dummies. And, as a loyal watcher since the first season, this shit just pisses me off. And, I’m not even getting into the amount of food and amenities these guys get nowadays.
I miss the real Survivor.
Wow, itchy…the French version sounds AMAZING.
I want to see some real surviving – like hunting down and eating rats or killing a ‘wild’ pig with your bare hands. Jarvis and them must watch this crap and throw shit at their tv.
The problem with the French version is that they stretch it out for more than two hours (that’s two full hours, not including commercials!). After a while, it becomes really tedious. Partly because their so hungry they can hardly move…
Daaaamn, itchy. The French version sounds much tougher than the American version EVER was or ever should be. I think the American version has gone too soft, but holy shit. Why are the French so mean and callous? It must be a cultural thing.
The funny part is the players are all very consensual, very French. Almost no strategy at all. They just sit around and talk and talk. It’s quite strange, after watching the American players scramble about like little monkeys. I’d be curious to see how Survivor works in other countries.
Has anyone else noticed that it sounds like Jeff is calling Skupin \stupid\ during the challenges?
\Stupid has his knots untied.\
\Stupid is falling behind.\
I don’t care if the challenge was rigged (but I do like the knot theory), I really don’t like Jeff playing favorites. I wouldn’t like it no matter what player he was loving, but it really gets me this time because it is for Abi. I don’t ever remember Jeff playing favorites like this before. He is doing it every time he is with the tribe (immunity, reward & tribal).
I also really wanted Lisa to get called out for who she really is. I wonder what the rest of the tribe would think of her once they knew her ‘famous’ past.
You mean that she’s the type of person who advocates putting hot sauce on a child’s tongue?
I don’t think they’d hold it against her that she was a child star, especially since she seems to have suffered from the experience, and she’s long since gone broke. In fact, she could probably use all that to get sympathy votes from the jury, most of whom would have only a vague idea of what the show once was.
@itchy, apology accepted, lol, but not necessary.
Regarding Denise, I totally respect anyone who can survive EVERY vote of the season and for that reason, I do believe Denise would make a worthy Survivor winner. However, I just find her personality grating and smug, which detracts from her otherwise greatness. Her treatment of Abi last week reminded me of her alienating treatment of Roxanne earlier, which is distasteful especially if you are in the inside clique and know that person is going to be voted out anyway.
This is the first season in a very long time that I’m looking forward to the ending. Watching Kim Spradlin march to her eventual victory was extremely dull from a viewer standpoint, so I’m looking forward to the unpredictability that is forthcoming.
As far as Denie’s greasy hair, I think it was @crankyguy who pointed out how horrendous it was, not me! Although, I agreed with his statements!