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Sunday, March 18, 2012
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Hiya Gasmi! I can’t tell you how good it feels to be back! Before we get to the recap, I have to give a shout out to PearlBlackDragon for her incredible coverage of last week’s episode. I had bile of my own to deal with, and I was so glad she was able to sub in on such short notice. Thanks for the awesome recap, Pearl!!
As I said in the minicap, I’m still feeling a bit shell shocked from last week’s episode, Gasmi. I spent most of this episode waiting for a karma smackdown for a certain jackass……but noooooooo.
The immunity idol thinks Colon sucks as well
Even the editors are grossed out by Colon and don’t really want to visit with Manono after last week, so we start the evening out with some Salami. They’re feeling good about surviving another day (even if it’s because the guys are morons). They are sure a merge is coming and vow to stick together to the end.
Be afraid, be very afraid
Yeah, I’ll believe it when I see it. Somehow these all girl alliances never seem to last on this show. If scientists were to do a study of it I’d guess the cause to be syncing cycles. Shit, my poor dad had to deal with three of us in one house and he’s lucky to have made it out alive!!!
Troyzan passes by and the Sabrina wants to know whose idea it was for the guys to give up immunity. I think she wants to send the lucky guy a cookie basket. Troyzan spills the beans, saying it was Colon’s idea and everyone else just went along even though they really weren’t too sure of the plan. Sabrina’s glad the guys are a bunch of idiots since it saved her tribe from having to go to tribal council. She points out that they’re much more of a mess than the girls thought. Alicia thinks the guys just handed them a million dollars. Oh honey, it’s way too early to be talking like that; there’s still plenty of time for your stupid to rear it’s ugly head.
Time for the reward challenge.
The tribes arrive and Jeff has a little surprise for them; they are switching tribes. Yep, drop yer buffs because a mix up mash up is about to happen! Jeff explains that it will be a random switch and then he pulls out a bowl of eggs that will determine their tribal assignments.
Troyzan wants to eat the eggs, but they’re filled with paint; blue for Salami, orange for Manono. Once they all have their eggs, they smash them against their bodies to find out which tribe they are now a part of.
So Michael, Sabrina, Kat, Kim, Jay, Chelsea and Troyzan are on the new Salami tribe, while Tarzan, Colon, Christina, Alicia, Monica, Leif and Jonas make up the new Manono tribe. You know, normally I would not be a fan of the way this tribe switch turned out, but given that Colon is on what is arguably the weaker tribe? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
A little taste of karma
Time to get to the challenge. For each tribe, teams of four will carry a large bucket to a water tower where they will fill it. When carrying it back, they will work together to plug the holes (hehehe….he said plug the holes) in the bucket that are leaking out all the water that was just collected. When they arrive at the finish platform, they will dump the water into a container and the next group will head out. First tribe to fill their container and raise their flag wins reward.
The winning tribe gets fixins for PB&J sammiches. More importantly, they get to continue living at the One World beach while the losers have to move and start all over again. Ready? GO!
Monica, Jonas, Leif and Tarzan go first for Manono. They fill their bucket quickly and start to head back to the trough, but Monica keeps getting knocked on her ass. It seems like the guys are barreling over her, and she finally just steps aside.
Meanwhile, Kim, Jay, Troyzan and Michael are the first group for Salami. They take a little longer at the water tower, which gets them more water in their bucket. They also take more time heading back, trying to minimize the loss of water.
The second group out for Manono is Monica, Colon, Alicia and Christina, while Jay, Troyzan, Michael and Kat head out for Salami. These groups get back to the trough at the same time, but it looks like Manono brought back more water that time around. Back to the first groupings again; Tarzan wants to hurry up and get back to the trough quickly, while Monica wants to take some extra time and get more water. Tarzan wins out.
Salami decides to take the time to get more water and……..
It pays off
So they get sammiches and the right to stay at the existing camp. HAHAHA! LOVE it.
Jeff wants Colon to give him a hard truth about the new division of tribes. He says it’s like Greeks gods versus peasants. Christina and Monica are all “Excuse meeeeee” and he says he’s just kidding.
I’m totally not kidding
Jeff sends Salami back to their camp and throws Manono a map to their new home. Have fun building a new shelter!
Once back at camp, Salami hunkers down to enjoy some grub and the afterglow of victory. Sabrina is so excited to be on the same tribe as Kim, Chelsea and Kat. She comments, “I can’t believe four girls within the five girl alliance are on the new tribe. Priceless!”
Meanwhile, Colon is not happy. HA! Good. He was really hoping to be on a tribe with Sabrina, Jay, Troyzan and Kim. I cannot say enough how happy I am that that did not happen. While Christina, Leif and Monica are trying to make the best of the situation by being positive about the new beach and supplies that came with it, Colton vents, “Not only did I get on a tribe of people that I don’t want to be on a tribe with. I got on a tribe of people who suck.”
You being the biggest SUCK of them all.
UGH. Hate. Him. Of course he finds the other icky person on his tribe to align with. Yep, Alicia is his new best friend. It’s like they can sense the rot in each other’s souls or something. Barf.
While everyone else works at building a new shelter, Colon runs around trying to make sure everyone knows he is on THEIR side and reminding the women that he always wanted to be a part of their tribe. They all buy into his bullshit. Monica is the only one who seems to have any sort of reservations, saying she hopes he’s telling the truth. If Colon is lying she feels like she’s the strongest of the three girls, which means it would probably be her first.
Things are looking good over at Salami. Michael and Chelsea catch a bunch of crabs (edible ones that is, not the itchy kind) Shit, those things are HUGE. They return from fishing in time to help Troyzan capture a rooster. He tells us it reminded him of his old football days.
While the others are busy cooking the feast or cooling off in the ocean, Jay chats with Troyzan and Kim. He thinks that he and Troyzan should make an alliance without Michael. He asks Kim about Chelsea, and Kim assures him that Chelsea can be trusted. So a foursome is formed.
We could just have a threesome and let Troyzan watch….
Kim is happy to keep her options open, especially given that the tribe switch has split the girls onto separate teams. ”If sticking with the girls works best for me in the long run, I’ll stick with the girls. And if we get to the merge and we don’t have the numbers, Troy and Jay are my alliance all the way.” See? It’s the quiet ones ya gotta watch out for!
Colon is still working it over at Manono. He starts chirping in Alicia ear about how he doesn’t trust Christina, and you know she is ALL OVER that shit. Well, the not trusting Christina part. She does NOT agree with him that Christina should be the first to go.
Bitch, please
He doesn’t give up, telling her that they’re safer with Tarzan and Jonas than with Christina. He also warns her not to tell Monica what they’re talking about. Yeah, I think he knows she’s not an idiot like this one.
Alicia tells him the women are loyal and don’t make these crazy kinda moves like the guys. She’d really rather keep the girls so she can rejoin her original alliance once the girls are back together again. But…she admits, “If we have to get rid of some girls, it will be Christina or Monica, but definitely not me.”
I’m sticking with the girls, just not the ones I’m on an actual tribe with.
Later, Jonas confronts Colon and asks him what he was talking to Alicia about. No worries, Colon assures him; he’s still with the guys. Jonas is amazed that Colon can get away with not helping build the shelter and instead spend his time playing the strategic game. BEACAUSE YOU ALL LET HIM DO THAT YOU FUCKING IDIOT!!!!!
I mean, he acts like Colon is some master game player and how brilliant it is of him to do that, but the fact of the matter is that Colon is a lazy entitled ASS that everyone is sidestepping around for no other reason that I can see except that they’re afraid of his immunity idol!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And why is that? They could vote his ass out and the idol would be back in play, or he’d play it and then they could vote him out the next time. I truly do not understand how they’ve all given so much of their power over to this creep.
The next day, Kim decides to take advantage of the fact that everyone is off doing their own thing. She decides to look for the hidden immunity idol. And guess what? She finds it. Then promptly hides it in her crotch.
Is that an idol in your crotch or are you just happy to see me?
She tells her friend Chelsea who helps create a distraction so that Kim can excavate the idol from her nether regions. Teamwork at its best! Kim reveals, “There’s no one I trust more in this game than Chelsea. So if I’m going to do this with anyone, it’s going to be with her.” She asks Chelsea not to tell anyone else and says they probably shouldn’t spend too much time together so they are not viewed as a pair. See what I mean? This girl is one to watch.
Over at Manono, Alicia spots a chicken next to the box trap that they have set. She tells Monica who runs over and traps the chicken under the box. Celebrating ensues, but not for long. Before can say chicken lo mein, that rascally bird has flown the coup.
See ya suckers!
How did that happen? The girls wonder. Colon sits on his ass and comments, “These people suck at Survivor.”
I, on the other hand, suck at life.
He thinks they’ve got ZERO chance of winning an immunity challenge against the other tribe. So, since they’re going to lose anyway, he decides that he should be targeting Monica because she’s stronger and has more friends on the other tribe.
He takes this new plan to Alicia, but she’s still not on board with one of the girls going first. After all, why should she put her trust in guys she doesn’t even know? Colon assures her that he is in control of things over here and as long as she works with him and trusts him, she’ll be safe.
Oh, and did I fail to mention that as soon as I don’t need you anymore I’ll slit your throat while you sleep?
Alicia is a dumbass therefore Alicia agrees. Colon does what he does best, which is look smug about the entire thing. My palms itch to smack that smirk right off his fat face.
Colon is so fucking full of himself as he tells us he’s been getting rid of the head of the snake this entire game. Matt, Bill, now Monica. He (of course) finds himself to be brilliant. BARF.
Time for the immunity challenge.
For this one, three members of each tribe will race to get a ball in the water. They will then try to shoot the ball into a basket while the other tribe tries to stop them any way they can. Oh goody! There should be some ass whooping in this one!
Each basket scores a point. First tribe to score three points wins immunity; losers go to tribal council. Ready? Okay!
The first round is three guys from each tribe. Tarzan defends the goal for Manono, while Michael defends the goal for Salami. Colon matches up against Jay, Jonas has Troyzan. Jeff starts the round by throwing the ball in the water.
Jay immediately pushes Colon (LOLOLOL) and then Jonas down on the way to the ball. He gets it and throws the ball to Michael, who is wide open and easily makes the basket on his first try. Next round is two girls and one guy. So, Sabrina, Kat and Michael compete against Christina, Monica and Leif. As the round begins, Michael runs out from the goal to get the ball. He practically throws Leif out of his way while trying to make the basket, but Leif does a good job of trying to defend the goal.
Dude! Did you just fart in my face?!?!? That’s fucked up.
The ladies have all made it down to the goal now and it’s a bit of a free for all there until finally Michael makes the shot scoring yet another point for Salami. Third round is all women. Kat and Christina defend the goals and Monica and Alicia pair off versus Sabrina and Chelsea. It’s another tough round, but in the end Monica scores a point for Manono.
Fourth round is all guys again, and it’s the original pair ups, but this time Colon is defending the goal for his tribe. He also takes off after the ball against Michael, and actually gets there first. Michael tries to get the ball from him, but Colon is holding onto it with a death grip.
Help me! Help me!
You know, normally I’d feel bad for the guy almost getting drowned during the challenge, but this time? Not so much. I may have even been cheering for a drowning at some point during this exchange. What? Like you weren’t doing the same.
The guys put up a hell of a fight this time around, but in the end Michael scores another basket winning it for Salami.
Too bad, so sad.
Once back at camp, Manono consoles each other on the loss. Jonas thanks Monica for at least getting them one point in the challenge. Alicia is as hateful as ever, telling us we are about to see Oscar worthy performances from her and Colon for the best blindside ever played.
I’m so awesome; let me tell you all about the wonders of me
Ugh. Colon tells Jonas the vote is for Monica and he’s just happy it’s not going to be him. Once again I wonder why they’ve let him take control of them game when they could so easily get his ass outta there. I hope they get demolished by the other tribe.
Meanwhile, Alicia tells Christina to vote for Tarzan ‘cause he’s old and weak. Christina is totally on board with that and shares the news with Monica and Jonas. Jonas plays along, pretending that Tarzan is going to be the one to go. Monica is surprised that the men are okay with voting out one of their own, which results in an equal number of men and women in the tribe. It’s that kind of logical thinking that’s getting her ass voted out of here.
Jonas doesn’t trust Leif because he had revealed their plans in the past to Bill, so he tells him to vote for Tarzan. But later Colon finds Leif and Tarzan together and tells them the vote is for Monica.
Got it. Marsha it is.
Monica.
Oh, yeah. Maryann.
No, no, no, no. Monica. Mon-i-ca. Yep, okay. Martha. Colon is worried that Tarzan will write down the wrong name. I guess it’s too much to hope that he gets really confused and writes down Colon, huh?
As Manono walks out of camp on their way to Tribal Council, Colon hopes that the tribe will follow through with his plan. Colon vents, “It’s really hard being the leader of a bunch of idiots.” Have I mentioned lately how much I hate him?
Time for tribal.
Jeff confirms that the majority of the group thinks Salami is in better shape than them. But Monica is trying to look on the bright side. She says the tribe is eating well and really enjoying their new home. Colon rolls his eyes. Alicia points out that Monica is great, she really capable and competitive, but she’s also a big threat. Rut roh. Alarm bells should be going off for Monica right about now.
Monica doesn’t thinks she’s a threat; she’s trying to help the team. Leif thinks she’s one of the hardest workingest women he’s ever seen. Thanks Leif.
Jeff moves onto Tarzan who is speaking gibberish about lonestars and dropping his assertiveness. This is all so that Jeff can segue into a discussion about what an awesome vocabulary Tarzan has. Leif thinks Tarzan is a very complex, very wisdom kind of guy. Good thing Tarzan is so good at explinating what he means.
I’ve never met a guy with such a huge……vocabulary before.
Jeff wonders what Tarzan has shared with the others about his life outside of the game. He shan’t share; the game is afoot. The tribe starts listing what they do know about him and it’s revealed that he has aphasia. Well, a nominal aphasia to be exact which gives him trouble remembering people’s names. And then he goes through the tribe and we see that he has some difficulty remembering them.
Time to vote. Colon mouthasks Tarzan if he remembers what to do.
Jeff, who is that strange boy talking to me?
We only see Monica vote for Tarzan and then Jeff goes to tally the votes. First vote, Tarzan. Then Tarzan, Monica, Monica, Monica, and…..
So there you have it, Gasmi. Colon continues to be the king of buffoons and Monica is axed. Jeff thinks this was an interesting strategy considering they are only on day 14. Monica tells us she blames herself for trusting Colon. I know itchy said he’s happy to see her tennis ball boobs go, but I felt a little bad for her; she may have been the only likeable person on that tribe. Oh wait, there’s Leif as well. So he’ll probably go next.
What did you all think of this episode? Were you happy with the way the tribes shook out? Are you hoping to see Manono grow some balls and vote out Colon? And more importantly, just how painful do you think it was for Kim to walk around with an immunity idol stuck in her cooch?
See ya soon!
SWAK, PottyMouth
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I hate random tribal shuffles. They always seem to screw over players that I like. There are much fairer ways for the tribes to be shuffled. I wish they had done a schoolyard pick this season. Not only would it have probably led to more evenly-matched tribes, but I would almost guarantee that Colton would have been picked last, and that would have been delicious!
Colton’s just so miserable. I understand not wanting to sit next to someone like Monica at the end, but it’s too early to think like that, especially when your tribe is about to become the next Ulong. Now is the time to get rid of the weak. Wait until the merge to get rid of the threats. Manono needed all the strength it could get, and Monica was the only one of them to score a point during the challenge. It was a dumb move not just on Colton’s part, but on everyone else’s too.
Also, I hate how every time they divide the contestants by a gimmick, they never see it through until the merge. Whether it’s race, age or gender, they always shuffle the tribes up just a few episodes in, defeating the purpose of the twist. Why name the entire season “One World” if they’re going to move to separate beaches after four episodes?
Also, all-female alliances can be successful sometimes. Micronesia, the season Parvati won, is a good example. So is Vanuatu. The girls in Vanuatu stuck together, for the most part. It’s just that the final guy standing, Chris, won several Immunity challenges and then won the game.
I blame Sabrina for creating this douche nozzle aka Dolton! Why did she have to give him of all people the freaking idol? His true colors didn’t start showing until he had the idol in his hand. And why doesn’t his tribe just blindside him, he won’t play it at tribal, his ego is way too big for that.
Who knew Tarzan was so smart? Book smart, that is.
Why did the losing tribe get all those supplies? It looked like Home Depot had dropped off a truckload for them. It’s almost to the point where the living conditions on Big Brother are worse than on Survivor.
I don’t understand why no one on Manono brought up how much Colon sucked at that challenge. His cry of ‘help me help me’ did nothing except make him look worse. The first time he was in he was tossed aside like a used kleenex, then the second time all he could do was hold on to the ball once. It’s not like he was actually fighting for the ball, he just happened to be there are the right time and curl around it. Leif got way more abuse, but got right back up and kept on fighting.
@crankyguy – exactly!!
I just thought of a way that the concept of One World could have been so much better, and it would have been a new twist to the game. Make everyone live at one beach, no tribes. Before every immunity there would be a school yard pick for the teams. This would mean that no one was safe, alliances would be all sorts of messed up because there really couldn’t be a strong person alliance. Then before the reward challenges, only make the reward for a couple of people, so there would be school yard pick but with four or five teams. Also, the type of challenge (physical, puzzle, water, running, etc) was not revealed until after the teams were picked, or maybe it would be. I just think Survivor is due for some sort of change, something for the better. Maybe a change of climate, there are some warm climates around lakes with forests.
I think the only way Survivor could be saved at this point would be if they mimicked the arenas in The Hunger Games. Maybe not make it an actual fight to the death, but they could give the competitors paint ball markers or equip them with laser tag gear or something. Give them something to actually “survive” against. After 4,637 seasons or whatever we’re on now, the only thing that really changes about this show is the names of the competitors, regardless of whatever new “twist” they claim to have introduced.
Do these people not realize other people see their confessionals? Their families…friends…the other players once the game is over…and millions of viewers all see what arrogant asses they are.
Too bad they’re too stupid to be shamed by their own words and behavior.
Colon’s the worst, even though he doesn’t quite inspire the same sort of visceral contempt Russell did. But if the rest of this bunch is that stupid to follow him, then so be it.
And judging from the performances of both Leif and Tarzan at tribal council, yes, they are that stupid. Explinate, my ass.
Except, I have to assume the others have already figured out that Colon is the one to bring to the final, because he’ll never win.
I’m rooting for Chelsea so far. She’s cute and doesn’t talk too much.
We were talking about why they switched it up so soon – I think it is because they expected “One World” to be full of drama between the tribes and alliances being made between the men and the women instead of two different camps that only shared a colon, so they changed it up to insert drama.
@crankyguy – didn’t one year they give them a toilet? I understand they want Home Depot to be a sponsor, but basically the only thing they aren’t giving them now is the licensed contractor.
@carol – those are good ideas – that would be a show I would watch and a much better twist than any of those yahoos have thought about in the 52 seasons of this show.
“Tarzan” is really Greg Smith, a plastic surgeon. I was aware of this last week when I watched the show, so it made it sweeter when I watched him mess with Colton about forgetting Monica’s name
http://realitytv.about.com/od/survivor-alpha/ig/Survivor-24-Cast/S1W_Greg_Smith.htm
Carol, I think that twist has been shopped around before, but it would be too difficult for viewers to track. Jeff, sadly, has a very condescending view of the audience’s intelligence. You can read it between the lines of his interviews. That’s one reason the “One World” twist was abandoned so early, I think. Without the clear division between men and women, I think production assumed that viewers wouldn’t be able to keep track of the tribes.
Plus, it would probably be very difficult to edit a season without tribal divisions. You’d have even more invisible contestants than you have now.
I agree that a colder climate would be interesting, though. Jeff has said before that it would never happen, and it probably wouldn’t since his comfort demands while filming are getting higher and higher, but Norway’s version of “Survivor” — entitled “Expedition Robinson” — is actually airing a cold weather season right now. The contestants are bundled up a little ridiculously (to the point where it’s hard to tell who’s who) but they’re building igloos as shelters and Tribal Council looks like a very cool ice fortress. I’d like our version to take a risk and try it! After 24 seasons, it couldn’t hurt to mix things up a bit.
Watch the earliest seasons. They had way more supplies in Borneo and Australia than any of the recent seasons get. It’s kind of ridiculous how much stuff they had in Borneo, actually, when I think the standard in many recent seasons is just one pot and one machete.
However, I think they change the amount of starting supplies based on the difficulty of the location. Some recent seasons have gotten whole tool kits right from the start, while others have started with just a pot and a machete. In other seasons, they get to unload a boat or truck of supplies, and in others they’re just dropped on the beach with nothing. It’s not consistent and there doesn’t seem to be a trend in one direction or the other, but the first two seasons definitely had the most.
Perhaps they’re too sociopathic to care who sees the confessionals.
Um, you realize a cold weather Survivor would mean no bikinis, right? Harumph!
No bikinis and no unorthodox waxing techniques. I want to know how these girls stay so hairless in conditions that make them starve with no fire and freeze in downpours with no tarp. Tweezers? sheeeeeeit. Too many hair follicles and uncooked rice between them.
I want them to feel like Anthony Bourdain in No Reservations. When you’re so damn cold you consider pissing your pants for the warmth it provides.
Or like Bear Grills who would rather go naked in cold weather than stay in wet clothes.
Naked is better than bikinis, right? (especially if they’ve brought their tweezers.)
Sabrina was smart enough to realize that giving the idol to the weakest player would decimate the men’s team. Anyone who’s strong is voted off. Take the asshole (Dolton) to the finale and you’re sure to win!
Who would vote for him after seeing his confessionals? Not Sabrina, who he only likes because she reminds him of his Mammy.
Brilliant strategy! Thanks for pointing it out, Sarcasatire. But do they see the confessionals?
You are very welcome PottyMouth! And thanks for the kind words about my anger filled recap.
I don’t really watch Survivor but now I have to watch so I can see Colon get bitten by a chicken and suffer some strange disease or get voted off. Whichever comes first (I am rooting for chicken bite)
Okay, I don’t like Colon but he seems to be one of the few people on this show actually playing the game. I know many of you peeps like contestants — who are PASSIVE and do absolutely nothing and then say “My goal was to stay under the radar and be a follower. That’s why I should win.”
It seems as if Colon is responsible for getting rid of Bill and Monica at the very least. For some reason he is able to convince whatever team he is on to vote “his way” and adhere to his vision of how things should be done; “We should go to tribal council even though we have immunity! Everybody follow me.”
And they do.
I suspect most of these contestants have never seen SURVIVOR and that’s why they make stupid moves. It’s like we’re seeing season one all over again.
Outside of Colon the only ones who seem to be playing the game are Alicia and the lady with the idol in her crotch. I say THANK GOD FOR COLON otherwise we would have to watch more footage of Tarzan trying to remember people’s names.
For some reason I love the idea of Colon being bitten by a chicken…
Well, apparently there’s a good chance that Tarzan is only pretending to be a senile old man. That could be an interesting strategy.
I agree with Mr. D that Colon is at least playing the game, and pretty well I might add. He may be detestible, but he’s making it interesting.
And I agree with itchy, I think Tarzan is playing dumb.
One thing I can’t get over – Alicia looks like that kid from Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome. She is all kinds of ugly.
However, Mr. D, while Colon is playing the game, by the time it comes to vote for a winner, many of the contestants will forget who the hell Bill and Monica even were. I know I will.
I think getting rid of Monica was actually the right move (from Colon’s perspective), considering Monica was the only one who had a brain. Keeping the people who will follow you blindly and with little blowback is the best strategy at this point, considering their tribe is going to more than likely lose until the merge, and Monica was not going to be a follower. I seemed to like Monica, but she had to be a problematic person if she were on the outside of both the original women’s tribe and the reshuffled Manono.
Well, all of the show is pretaped, except for the finale, so everyone is at home watching. And if any tribe member didn’t know how much of an asshole Colton was, they do now.
I imagine he’ll get the most screentime during the finale, finalist or not.
Unfortunately they vote before they go home and watch the show but like you said he will definitely be the star of the reunion, finalist or not.
I think I have Nominal Aphasia like Tarzan because the only names from this season I can seem to remember are Colon, Tarzan, Kat and Leif because he’s little…. just like a leaf.. Colon is like the popular mean girl in Jr. high that everyone is afraid to go against even though everyone hates her, because if you stand up to her then you’ll be her next target. I bet Colon is really enjoying his chance at finally being popular mean girl.
They never see the confessionals during the game. The entire 39 day show is filmed and finished before the Survivors return back to the United States. Even the losers stay on-location in various resorts (one of which is Ponderosa, where the Jury stays) until the whole thing is finished filming. The Jury votes on Day 39 and those votes are kept secret until the live finale, months after they’ve returned from Samoa.
Colton might actually be a total sweetheart in person and save his terrible comments for his private confessionals. However, seeing what we’ve seen, I doubt that’s true. Almost everyone seems to be annoyed with him already, which makes me wonder why he has so much power.
OMG, thank you zerocool! I couldn’t place it but I kept thinking I had seen her face somewhere before and I had! The Thunderdome kid had her face!!
Colton says he’s a huge fan, and I appreciate that, but I don’t want to see people play hard, I want to see people play well. If Colton makes it to the end, he won’t win because he was lazy around camp and was mean to people. No one seems to like him.
The thing is, he could have made all the same moves he’s made while at the same time being a better worker and more polite to folks. Well, he probably couldn’t have convinced folks to give up Immunity, but that wasn’t one of his better moves, anyway.
It’s the same problem I had with Russell in both of his seasons. Good player? Sure. I like people who go all out and refuse to fly under-the-radar. But he could have gone all out without calling women “bitches” to their face or getting into vicious arguments with other Survivors. Those are the reasons he lost. It wasn’t because he played hard or stabbed people in the back. Players like Tom, Yul, Earl, Parvati and Todd all played hard and lied to people while at the same time bonding with the Jury so they could get Jury votes. That’s how you play Survivor. Colton isn’t doing that great of a job as of yet.
Are you sure you don’t mean the little kid in Road Warrior?
It was while ago since I watched… I’m sure you’re right.
Whichever movie it was, I’m glad I wasn’t the only one thinking it. A side-by-side photo comparison is needed, hee hee.
@wow..how do they vote if they don’t know who the final three will be? I mean, if someone gets voted off when there are 5 players left, how would they know which three finalists to choose from?
I thought the live show was where the finalists appealed to the jury to vote for them? Or else why would they sound like they are begging? “I played the game.. I outwitted.. I did this and that.. (the ‘vote for me’ is implied.)”
To be fair, there are ugly kids in both…
The jury (after they are voted out) sit in at the remaining tribals. That way they are able to sort of know what is happening back at camp. I heard somewhere the jury is even kept separate after being voted out so they can’t talk to each other. Then, during the final tribal, they ask those questions and vote for who they want to win. That is where the taped show stops. Jeff used to do a dorky segment of him traveling to LA for the live show with the votes, but now he just walks back on stage in his blue shirt. That is where they finally reveal the votes.
Colon may be the only one playing the game in that tribe, but he is doing it badly. He keeps getting people to vote off the players that he dislikes rather than the most strategic choice. That d-bag that they got rid of first made sense, but Monica did not. She was probably the most athletic person in their tribe and now they are likely to keep losing competitions and losing their people. I wonder how long is it going to take before the rest turn on him. Probably a while because they don’t seem all that bright.
On a less related note, if you saw the previous season and were part of the crowd that thought that ‘lil hantz had serial killer tendencies, then you should check out that Criminal Minds episode “Family Affair” that aired a couple of weeks ago.
http://youtu.be/qRwSfFpBI2k?t=3m52s
What Carol said – they stay on location as the jury until the final 2 or 3, vote on the winner and then the whole cast goes home until the live reunion when they announce the winner. So at the reunion they’ve watched the show but have cast their vote without that knowledge.
I have to (begrudgingly) agree with you, @Mister D…Colton is actually *playing* the damn game, while most of these fools seem to have forgotten the three “rules”, mainly OUTWIT.
Unfortunately, no season will ever be like the first. I remember it so well, and so fondly, because the whole “alliance” thing hadn’t become the norm. You voted for whomever you wanted out, and at the end of the game you voted for whomever you wanted to win BECAUSE THEY PLAYED THE BEST GAME and not because they stayed hidden. Grrrr I think I hate that voting srategy the worst of all. Yes, even if it means Colon wins. Sigh.
Oh, one more thing: I heard that they will not go to a cold place OR another place without a beach for the exact reason mentioned above…no bikinis/scantily clad women (or men).
Africa, actually one of my personal favorite seasons cuz I liked the cast, apparently got lots of griping from viewers due to the lack of scenery, like tropical beaches and bouncing-bikini-breastusses.
I actually LOVE the thought of a “cold” Survivor. The contestants are hilariously pitiful when they are cold. Fun!
Uh, I didn’t say he was playing a great game. I said he was playing the game. Pretty much everybody else is just standing around doing nada. If it wasn’t for COLON — SURVIVOR would consist of Tarzan reciting people’s names and viewers trying to decide how stupid KAT is. I like all the players you mentioned (though I don’t remember Earl) but I wouldn’t say any of them were GREAT TELEVISION. Colon is GREAT TELEVISION.
I wish King Russell was on this season.
I would love to see Russell walk up to COLON and say, “Bitch, you better think about what you’re doing or your FLABBY ass is out of here. Do you understand me, FIFI?”
What good is watching this show if someone isn’t going to be called a Bitch! or someone isn’t vicious or mean? Uh, if I want tasteful behavior I’ll watch Downton Abby.
I dislike Russell as a character for exactly that reason. “Survivor” used to be an adventure show, and he basically brought it down to a level more akin to the Kardashians or “Jersey Shore.” He’s trashy, and I don’t like trash stinking up my favorite shows. I feel similarly about Colton.
And guess what? If Colton wasn’t on this season, everyone else would still be playing the game. They’d be competing in challenges and voting each other out, just like every other season. The fact that the editing is focusing on Colton doesn’t mean that the other players aren’t doing anything. Every week we see three days condensed into one hour. A lot happens in that time.
In fact, Sabrina, Kim, Chelsea and Jay all seem to be playing solid games. Heck, I think Jonas is pretty smart for taking a subservient role to Colton, too, though like I said I’m not a huge fan of under-the-radar players. He’s going to have to branch out eventually to get me to like him more.
Anyway, “Survivor” has the potential to be a very cool and subtle show. I still enjoy it, but I’m not a fan of the new trend to cast the show like “Big Brother” and edit it through the eyes of one-dimensional camera hogs like Sugar, Russell, Coach and Colton. They appeal to the lowest common denominator, and the show used to be so much better than that.
And the Survivors have always voted for who they liked the best. The final vote has very rarely been about strategy. Richard didn’t win Borneo because people respected his gameplay. He won because Sean, Sue and Rudy all detested Kelly and Richard had taken the time to bond with Greg, the swing vote, whose “pick a number” question was just for show.
uh, Survivor was NEVER Masterpiece Theater. When it started Richard was walking around naked and Sue was talking about snakes and rats so please, really. It’s reality TV for goodness sake.
And Sugar, Coach and Colton are not in Russell’s arena of GREATNESS. Those three would be lucky if they had one ounce of Russell’s charisma and manliness. I couldn’t tell you who Chelsea, Kim and Sabrina are and I had to think for a second to remember who Jonas was. Those four need to work on their personalities.
And don’t be talking trash about my show BIG BROTHER. That show may be FIXED but I still enjoy it.
The whole tropical beach thing is getting old. There are plenty of climates that are warm but can get coldish and would be different. Like a lake in the mountains. There have to be some lake areas that don’t get wicked cold at night. An area like Lake Tahoe would be amazing, not on the main lake but one of the smaller ones in the surrounding mountains. The only problem with that area is it does get cold at night even in the summer.
I don’t think people would mind a cold climate if the scenery was pretty and they had good challenges. Oh, and cast people that were great personalities but you would not want to see in a pair of saggy pink undies.
I didn’t say it was Masterpiece Theater. Why do things have to be at one of two extremes? It was a well-executed drama about normal Americans in a stressful environment, though. Go back and watch the first season. You’ll see that it’s more like a documentary than a game show, and that’s what I liked about it.
Sue’s “rats and snakes” speech was epic because it showed, in blistering clarity, the emotions of a normal woman who was very hurt by someone she had considered a friend. The original cast had no idea what kind of show they were going to be on. The very concept of competitive reality television was foreign to them at the time.
And Richard walked around naked. So what? That’s not inherently trashy, since it was a part of his personality as an openly gay libertine. That wasn’t part of the game; that’s just who he was. Russell claimed that his misogyny — and yes, his behavior on all of his seasons was blatantly misogynist — was part of the game. Really, though, it was very clear that it was just for the cameras, because treating women like dirt did nothing for his game, and it just showed that he’s probably not the kind of person that I, or anyone, really, would want to know in everyday life.
As for Sugar and Coach, I just meant that since Gabon, the editing has been heavily skewed towards one contestant, with everyone else filling out a mostly-supporting role. The show used to give equal time to everyone, and I just wish it would get back to that.
Carol, the eliminated Survivors who make up the Jury stay at a resort named Ponderosa. There are videos on the website of their adventures there. They aren’t separated from one another, although I think they have constant surveillance so they don’t conspire to vote for one contestant over another.
It was, indeed, Road Warrior, and my memory is telling me that the kids name was Feral Kid. I think that is a pretty good description for Alicia.