Jeff Probst Wears Denim and Cirie Wins a Truck

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By admin | Tuesday, May 16, 2006 | 8:57 am | 31 Comments

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Since B-Side was kind enough to do the two hour Survivor finale, I thought I would clean things up and take the Survivor Reunion. Since I know there are some people out there that haven’t seen the episode or are waiting to read the recap, I won’t spoil the winner here in the front post. What I would like to say is that it was a great season. Unfortunately, we were unable to enjoy a Jeff Probst “back from the wilderness” video montage YET AGAIN. I am not sure what is going on at CBS, but they must start doing that again. Hell, make it a download if you must save some time, but whatever you do, we love seeing Jeff boat, fly, skydive, and motorcycle his way across the globe and into the finale. It was really a great final episode and the reunion show was a good way to wrap up a great season.So anyway, ARAS WINS! Yay! Danielle was one of those under the radar type players. Everybody was expecting it to come down to Terry and Aras, but Danielle held the final decision in her hands. In retrospect there is not much she could have done.

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Nice hoodie, but you are no Jack Bauer

OK, I take that back, she could have found somebody out there to do her makeup. Seriously, Danielle was one of the few people that became less attractive when she returned to for the reunion, which I found difficult because she was really turning out to be one smoking honey, as long as you could get past her hirsute ways. But this observation is all relative, and really, nobody can turn from hottie to nottie (I may bring that back someday…) as dramatically as Stephanie, who went from zero to Jersey in about 30 seconds.

After the winner was announced and we had our first commercial break, we returned with a Terry and Aras montage. These two really had a great rivalry. I have been in the anti-Terry camp, but now that I have gloated over Aras’ win, I can talk about how tough it was for Terry to be out there. Give him credit for sticking it out against the odds when he had no allies. If only he had one ounce of strategy in his body, he may have actually won.

Jeff, who for some reason changed out of his rain forest trendy to more of a gap commercial from 1994 trendy, spent a little time on the rivalry. Jeff was quick to point out that Terry never had to use the immunity idol because he won all of those immunities and Danielle was picked for the only one he didn’t win. Just as Terry was feeling good about himself, Aras remarked that he was kind of happy Terry won all of those immunities because everybody would have voted for Terry and when Terry used the immunity idol, the vote would probably go towards Aras. So in fact, Terry was a big part of letting Aras back into the game. I’m not sure if Aras had been working on that line for a long time, but it did knock some more smug out of Terry’s attitude.

This was perhaps one of the most homoerotic Survivor finales when Terry talked about his relationship with Aras and how in the end it became about two mature guys, getting it on, strapping it on, and making it happen. No, I thought that was called Brokeback Mountain (if B-side already used that joke in the similarly homoerotic question and answer session with Shane, I apologize). I was half expecting him to add reaching around, lubing up, and getting manicures, but that never happened.

And if you thought I was the only one with such an immature mind, Sally was giggling along with me in the background. Later, Aras only added to the slightly ghey atmosphere by saying that he felt going up against Terry felt like a right of passage, like he had just been sent to prison and had just left the showers. Oh, and he said that he was “still learning about himself” so if you think Aras is a hunk guys, maybe you should give him a call..

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Hang your head in SHAME

The next round of questioning focused on Danielle. I felt really bad for her. She had a tough go against Aras, and as somebody said, she was basically picking the winner when she made that choice at tribal council. Jeff talked like she hadn’t done anything in the game, as if lasting that long against two strong men and winning the final immunity was some walk in the park. What made it worst was that it looked like she was going to cry the whole time. Oblivious to her situation, Jeff pressed on, asking people for a show of hands if they would have picked Danielle against Terry. Everybody would have voted for Terry. On the one hand, that’s cool because she made the right decision. On the other hand, she realizes that she never had a prayer in the world to win.

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You go girl

Winning the best makeover award was Cirie, and it really wasn’t a big makeover; she just looked nice and happy. Our girl is never going to win any beauty pageants but she is now looking a lot more like a brick house and less like a big pile of bricks lying on the couch. It seemed like half the episode was dedicated to talking about Cirie getting up off the couch. They went into the crowd where her husband, HB, talked about how proud he was to see her compete, and yes, the waterworks started. I just don’t have it in me to make fun of these two. They love each other so much and I just did some laundry so I think the smell of the fabric softener is making me happier than normal.

That would have been a great way to end the talk of Cirie, but instead, they decided to throw it to Shane. I loved Shane while he was on the show because he added a crazy element and I think he typified the manic nature of Kasaya to a “T”. He was talking about Cirie and yes, he was complimentary talking about how she came back from the brink and that she is an inspiration, but a lot of the compliments were backhanded because right before he would say things like she was dead in the water, she was scared, she never got up off the couch, etc. etc. I’m going to assume that he meant to be nice and finish with what Cirie said about her time on the island. We saw the best and the worst of what she had to offer, but she is glad that she took a chance because she’ll never be held back by a fear of failure. Now THAT is some inspiration.

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Shane didn’t look that strange. Maybe he’s a normal guy

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OK, never mind what I just said

There was no way that we were going to get out of a reunion show without talking about Bruce, and Jeff talked about his toughness. I spoke this weekend with a friend of mine who lived in Simi Valley and actually had Bruce as a teacher when he was growing up. He mentioned that Bruce had always been a bad ass and thought for sure that he would win. My friend, of course, never counted on Bruce not being able to poop.

Bruce gave us a few more details on his injury, saying that he had been having pain for at least 12 days before the doctors came. Jeff then mentioned that the Survivors are allowed to call for medical at any time, but if the doctors says that they have to leave then they have to leave and can be removed from the game.

We also learned that Bruce had to make a big choice when he was leaving for Survivor. The school he worked for said that if he didn’t show up, he wouldn’t have a job. Bruce didn’t show up and was wondering the entire time on the island whether he would have a job when he got back. He did get his job back, although he was suspended without pay for a while. Not that I want to be cynical, but if Bruce was forced to retire his pension from 34 years on the job would probably get him by. And if he ever needed more money, there is always the Mr. Miyagi impersonations and workout videos to bring in the extra coin.

Terry presented Cirie a special Survivor Fishing Tournament trophy because she had been so proud when she caught a fish. It was a nice Cirie moment, but let’s be honest, we really had to move on to Shane. Shane didn’t try to pretend like he was acting like an idiot while he was in Panama; he just admitted that he was batshit crazy. Quitting a three pack a day smoke habit cold turkey basically fried him. He did apologize to Danielle for getting out of hand that one time after the merge. And then we got to talk about Boston.

If there was one thing that you could trust Shane to always be dead serious about, it was his son. I really feel sorry for Boston. It’s not that I think Shane is a really bad father or anything, because I am sure he loves his son, but growing up with Shane has got to be interesting. Then your dad leaves you for 39 days to go to Central America and you are left with your mom, appropriately named Bird(?!) and when he comes back you are horrified that he has spent his time talking to himself, making death threats, and showing his chaffed balls to millions of viewers every week. I think Boston is finally fighting back, because he finally cut his hair.

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Next year, Survivor: Graceland?

All of this talk of children made it easier to transition into levels of television exploitation previously unheard of. Yes, I’m talking about Tina. Now, I am sure there was a certain therapeutic element for her being able to go on the show and talk about her son Charlie, but I got the feeling that Probst was asking the question because she got booted early in the game and CBS was trying to milk it for all it’s worth. Tina was obviously devastated when it happened, obviously wasn’t yet over the pain when she finally went on the show, and so now on MOTHER’S DAY, CBS pulls that shit? Poor taste in my book. If there was anything good that came of this publicity was that Tina was finally able to contact other people from the accident that killed her son, which is something that had been bothering her for a while.

After Tina, it was apparent that we had to hear from a lot of people in a short amount of time, so Jeff started whipping through, getting one or two sentence answers from the likes of Austin, Bob, Ruth Marie (also looking pretty good, I might add), Misty, and Melinda. He spent a little more time with Sally talking about the troubles she had with her family after her divorce and if being on the show helped her at all. She obviously didn’t want to go into detail, but since we only had a few minutes left, nobody really cared.

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“The dumpster in the Ed Sullivan theater kicks ass!”

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Marg Helgenberger enjoyed the finale

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Since I don’t remember anything she did, I take it Natalie Maines didn’t do that well this season.

I was waiting patiently so see if Courtney could follow up her crazy question with something equally as stupid in the reunion, but of the unimportant people, the one who was the silliest was Dan, who talked about waking up every morning on this island, there was nobody around, you had nothing but yourself and a few other people, and you could pet the Iguanas. Did anybody else scream “YOU WERE IN SPACE YOU MORON, COME DOWN AT ANY TIME” at your televisions when you heard him speak? And what the hell was with that pet the iguanas thing? And what else did he pet on the island that he was too embarrassed to tell us about, I mean besides Terry’s ego every five seconds.

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Yay! Colors!

Jeff finished things off by telling us the winner of the voting. Ummm, what? There was voting? For a free Yukon? Online? I guess you miss some things when you are fast-forwarding on the Tivo. Although I missed the vote and the chance to stuff the ballot box for Cirie, she won anyway. It wasn’t as great as that million dollars that Rupert won, but it was still pretty nice.

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“Seriously, can you help me strap Aras to my Yukon?”

And that wrapped up the show. There were no marriage proposals or anything like that, but we did get a preview at the next Survivor. Survivor: Cook Islands will be airing this fall and Exile Island will be making a return.

What did you think of the reunion?

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31 Comments

  1. 1
    happy_gal
    Posted May 16, 2006 at 8:53 am

    First! Yay!

    I am glad you highlighted the whole “strapping it on” thing. Terry must be dying! Live TV rocks.

  2. 2
    Foxbase Alpha
    Posted May 16, 2006 at 8:59 am

    Melinda looked like a fat version of Paris Hilton more than she looked like Natalie Maines of the Dixie Chicks.

  3. 3
    DickeyD
    Posted May 16, 2006 at 9:51 am

    Did anyone else notice that whenever we had Jeff talking about how Cirie orchistrated the ouster of Tina, Tina would get a death look in her eyes and actually stood up one time and pointed at her? I was laughing so much – ahhh i love Cirie.

    Glad she won the car. As long as Terry didn’t win anything in the finale, i was happy (he can have his useless reward). This season was far better than Guatemala, and I’m content with the winner.

    (also when we did that contest predicting the winner/runner-up/third, i predicted aras as winner… i know i wont win, but that felt good lol)

    Now i have Raylonda and Jack Bauer to try and fill the gap from now to Big Brother season… sigh… it’s gonna be a long month.

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    HoneyBunny
    Posted May 16, 2006 at 10:13 am

    Does anyone know if Terry got to keep his never used Immunity Idol…
    I can see him shleping that ugly thing everywhere he goes – “Hey want to peek at my Idol?” Shmendrek.

    hb

  5. 5
    zevonia
    Posted May 16, 2006 at 11:07 am

    Thanks for the recap, J-Unit. Thank you also for your lines about Terry: “I have been in the anti-Terry camp, but now that I have gloated over Aras’ win, I can talk about how tough it was for Terry to be out there. Give him credit for sticking it out against the odds when he had no allies. If only he had one ounce of strategy in his body, he may have actually won.” All the other Terry haters refuse to say anything nice about him. You would think the guy beats his family and strangles puppies with his bare hands. While I am in the anti-Aras camp, I’m willing to admit he’s a nice guy though very immature for a 24 year old. (What am I saying- he’s a guy! Being immature comes naturally for the male species.) I think I prefer him winning to Danielle. What I find interesting about the final three in this season is the difference in the players. Terry was great at the physical but lousy at strategy. Aras wasn’t that great at the challenges but he was better at making friends than Danielle or Terry. Danielle was bad at both (only Cirie and Bruce would have voted for her if she had taken Terry to the final two) but was good at outlasting by knowing when to change alliances. And yet so many of you hated only Terry because he couldn’t get numbers on his side. I also don’t get the whole Terry was smug attitude. I’m not saying I never saw him being smug but if you want to talk about smug how about the Casayans? Before and after the merge. I said it in a previous post that how you see people on this show is based on your own perspective (and the editing). Just switch Terry and Aras but keep everything else the same and think about how each of them behaved and see how you’d feel. A lot of the perspective comes with age. So many of you are babies who have almost no life experience and that makes a big difference. Watch this survivor 10 to 15 years from now and I’m betting most of you will no longer see everything Terry does as negative.
    I have to disagree with you J-Unit, Danielle really wasn’t flying under the radar because her name came up several times to be voted out. Cirie was doing that for a long time until she started to manipulate.
    DickeyD- since Cirie and Terry won the exact same car how come it’s useless because he won it but you’re glad for Cirie?
    Honeybunny, I don’t know if Terry got to keep the idol but I’m betting there are many people who would want to see it. And that would hold true even if some other Survivor player had found it. (Would Shane be a shmendrek for showing off his wooden blackberry?) You’re only dissing the idol because Terry had it just as DickeyD is dissing the car because Terry won it (but reversing his opinion for Cirie). I wonder how many of you Terry haters would have been cheering him on if La Mina had gone to the merge with numbers?
    The last thing I’ll mention is on cbs.com the survivor popularity poll has Terry at 52.5%, Cirie at 27.18%, Aras at 7.21% and Danielle at 4.62%. America loves an underdog.

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    zoobabe
    Posted May 16, 2006 at 11:29 am

    zevonia- The viewers still voted for Cirie to win the truck. They could have given Terry another one if they chose to, proving that her popularity was enough to get people to give her things (just like the other survivors would have given her the money over Terry if they were the final 2). Please don’t patronize the people that come her to vent/comment/snark. I’m 39 years old and have a lot of life experiences. I still think Terry was smug and selfish and didn’t deserve to win the money b/c of the way he played the game. I’ll give him the credit of being the strongest physical player on the show, but that’s it. He WAS the reason Aras won, b/c he couldn’t stop and think about how to preserve his time on the island without having to always win the immunity.

    J-Unit: You would have known that you could vote online to give one of them a truck if you read the forums :) . Someone started a thread about it there, and those of us who said we voted all voted for Cirie.

  7. 7
    zevonia
    Posted May 16, 2006 at 11:46 am

    Zoobabe, I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings but I was not trying to be patronizing. I was talking about perspective. Are you telling me that you see the world exactly the same at 39 as you did at 24? I doubt that very much because that would mean you’ve had no personal growth and, though I don’t know you, I would find it hard to believe that about anyone. I didn’t say Cirie wasn’t popular. I would have voted her the truck as well (didn’t know about the vote either) since Terry already had one which was probably why she won it. If Terry had won nothing I’m betting he would have been voted the truck. Without numbers I don’t think Terry could have preserved his time on the island without winning immunity. Do you honestly think if he had given up the idol when he had immunity that he wouldn’t have been voted off the first time he lost immunity? I wonder how many of us would have given up that idol in the same situation? I just think that the Terry haters have been harder on him than they have on the other survivors. No one on that island is going to win any prizes for humanity. But then neither are any posters on this site. It’s called being human. And how you judge people depends a great deal on how much life experience you have which shapes your perspective. That’s all I was trying to say and if I said it badly, I’m sorry.

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    zevonia
    Posted May 16, 2006 at 11:49 am

    I said it badly again. What I should have said was how much your life experience has shaped your perspective. Obviously, the more life experience you have the more your perspective gets shaped. I guess I’m not the best philosopher in the world.

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    Sloaner
    Posted May 16, 2006 at 12:01 pm

    Cirie was this season’s Rupert in terms of unattractive lovability, and no surprise to win the car. Also it’s no surprise that so many losers out there hated Terry. He was the epitome of the golden All-American boy that could do anything he tried well, and had those wholesome good looks that the ladies drooled over, and the guys envied. It’s not necessarily arrogance when you back up a confident attitude, with performance. Try putting Terry, Aras, Danielle, and Cirie on their own islands by themselves for 39 days, and run reward challenges every few days. Then we’d see who was the true “survivor”.

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    zoobabe
    Posted May 16, 2006 at 12:14 pm

    zevonia- you didn’t hurt my feelings, you pissed me off! Apology accepted. Of course I’m not that same person I was at 24. I’m way more cynical and bitter now! :)

    btw- I HATED Richard Hatch was a passion when he was on Survivor, but he played his tribemates like a fiddle and got their votes. Kind of fitting that he’s not sitting in a jail cell b/c of his own stupidity. His arrogance is a million times worse than Terry. At least I can still repect Terry. Granted it’s b/c he didn’t win the million.

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    Tabby Lavalamp
    Posted May 16, 2006 at 12:21 pm

    Wow. Way to generalize, Zevonia. I too am closer to Terry’s age than I’d like to admit, but saw him as smug, overly arrogant, and too selfish to be a useful alliance mate with. However, he did kick butt in the challenges, and I don’t know any of the non-Terry fans who didn’t admit that.
    So he didn’t have the numbers. That hurts, but look at Chris in Vanuatu who was the last member of his alliance left but managed to win the season. Sure, Scout and Twila helped there, but he saw the crack in the alliance and worked it. While an argument can be made that Casaya had one of the strongest alliances ever on Survivor (in terms of sticking together) a smart player should still be able to find a crack and exploit it. Or at the very least, read people better than he did.
    He kicked butt in competitions, yes. So much so that calling him an “underdog” is a stretch. Cirie was a much bigger underdog at one point, and she turned it around and was pretty much running the alliance near the end there.

    To me, the most telling moment of Terry’s failure as a Survivor was when he started working on Shane, who had just been left out of the loop on Courtney’s ouster (which, by the way, Danielle should be really grateful to Cirie for). By that point it was really too late for him to do anything anyway, but really? The odd man out that would have still left him short in the numbers game? That was his strategizing there in a nutshell.

  12. 12
    B-Side
    Posted May 16, 2006 at 12:22 pm

    By the way, Tabby Lavalamp –

    that was the 44,444th comment on this site.

  13. 13
    zoobabe
    Posted May 16, 2006 at 12:29 pm

    my last post (#10) should have read “kind of fitting that he’s NOW sitting in a jail cell”.

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    Tabby Lavalamp
    Posted May 16, 2006 at 12:31 pm

    Sloaner – “Also it’s no surprise that so many losers out there hated Terry. He was the epitome of the golden All-American boy that could do anything he tried well, and had those wholesome good looks that the ladies drooled over, and the guys envied.”
    He could do anything he tried well, except play the social game of Survivor, scheme, strategize, win people over, or stay loyal to his most loyal ally. Winning mostly physical competitions alone doesn’t make someone an all-round god or even merely the ultimate Survivor. Not to take anything away from your obvious gift for hyperbole, of course.

    As for his looks, even before we got to know him they didn’t do anything for me.

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    mandymax
    Posted May 16, 2006 at 12:33 pm

    I must be the only person who thought that Dan was a class act and wanted him to win.

    Does anyone else remember way back when, when tiebreakers were determined by how many previous votes were cast against the people who tied? That came into play once, I remember, but I don’t recall the season.

    And if I were still in college, I probably would have made a drinking game out of how often the words “Huge Target On My Back” came out of Terry’s mouth. I don’t think I would’ve made it through an entire episode from mid-season on.

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    Tabby Lavalamp
    Posted May 16, 2006 at 12:33 pm

    B-side, cool (really, I like things like that). What do I win?

  17. 17
    RealityTV4Me
    Posted May 16, 2006 at 12:33 pm

    Geesh zevonia! So many of you are babies who have almost no life experience and that makes a big difference. Watch this survivor 10 to 15 years from now and I’m betting most of you will no longer see everything Terry does as negative. What crawled up your butt?

    You can like and support Terry til the cows come home and that’s fine for you. But on the same token, let those of us who do have age (34) and PLENTY of life experiences be able to vent and snark about his arrogant, pompous attitude. It only takes a few brain cells to hear his holier than thou attitude just seep out of his fat mouth. A better person would let their actions speak for themselves while at least attempting to be humble about it. That would have been the time when he should have made friends and influenced people.

    He definitely was the strongest in terms of winning challenges. But the man couldn’t scheme to save his life. That would be the outwit part.

    One thing I never clearly saw from the editing was why Danielle was disliked as much as she ended up being. Even if she had taken Terry, she would have only gotten two votes. I must have missed all of the Danielle hating. From the final four on, I was shocked and disappointed that Aras won. I was sure it would be Danielle. Oh well.

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    jelliepair
    Posted May 16, 2006 at 12:53 pm

    #17 – I also wondered why Danielle was such a target (besides the obvious big teeth and boob-spillage. Did you see the eye rolls and evil looks from Courtney everytime they showed Danielle at Tribal? Courtney should have been angry at Cirie for her ousting but I am guessing her dead turtle spirit didnt tell her what really happened.

    As for Terry, I have been rooting for Terry all along and wanted him to win. I think he really outplayed and outlasted – he just couldnt outwit himself out of a paper bag. I do believe that the editing really slants us into believing things that may not be what they seem. Terry made some piss-poor decisions and did come off a bit cocky but I am guessing he has always been a super hero at his house and his background is the kind where his confidence has to be high to keep him alive. I was stunned that he bailed on the final immunity – he should have been able to stand on just a piece of rope and stay upright with his military training…

    Has anyone read Aras’s background off the CBS Surivior site? Dude is only 24 yet it lists that he has a Degree in Philosophy and a Masters Degreein Business Administration. And he played NCAA Basketball – Not bad for a freeloader huh?

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    Sloaner
    Posted May 16, 2006 at 1:04 pm

    Tabby L:”He could do anything he tried well, except play the social game of Survivor, scheme, strategize, win people over, or stay loyal to his most loyal ally.” If you recall back to prior to the merge his social game was not only superior, but he was the glue that held his tribe together. When he was sent to Exile Island his tribemates wandered around camp aimlessly, with no direction at all. His attempts at strategy after the merge failed due to the (to me) unbelievable strength of the alliance. Every time you saw a chink in their armor mid-show it was miraculously gone at tribal council. Terry was the ultimate threat in this game, and would never be allowed the pleasure of being able to outwit any of the “Gang of 6″. No hyperbole-just fact. I do love your nom de TVgasm though. Reminds me vaguely of the ’60′s

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    zevonia
    Posted May 16, 2006 at 1:14 pm

    Oh my, Zoobabe- we may not be able to agree on much. I loved Richard Hatch. As a survivor player, I mean, not as a person. I enjoyed watching him manipulate people especially because he was not liked by his tribemates but they did what he wanted. He was arrogant but fun to watch. When it comes down to it, how many of us would have the same feelings about people on any reality show if we were in the same situation? Shane was fun to watch but imagine being stuck starving and thirsty on an island with him. I would think he’d be hard to take even in civilization. Oh and I’m glad to hear you’re cynical and bitter since I am, too (’cause I’m 45, not ’cause Terry lost).
    Tabby Lavalamp, you never generalize? Wow- what a perfect person you must be (snark). Of course I realize that there will be Terry Haters of all ages just as I expect Terry Lovers of all ages. I just think that if the numbers were checked, more younger people would be Terry haters. I could be wrong, of course since I’m not perfect. And naturally Terry haters said he kicked butt at the challenges- it would have been hard not to. But that isn’t saying something nice just the truth. I still think people’s perspective of Terry was more negative than his actions warrented. Chris on Vanuatu was lucky. The winners on this show, more often than not, come from the tribe with the numbers at the merge. He was lucky to be the only male with all those females because women have a bad habit of self destructing alliances on this show. Oops, I’m generalizing again. I should be ashamed of myself. Think about it, though. Women don’t band as a group and take out the men when they could and should so often on this show. I’m not sure why that is but maybe it’s a societal thing. Even in this 21st century, women tend to defer to men. Oh no, another generalization. I better be careful or I’ll be banned from tvgasm. I agree Terry was bad at strategizing but that is not always what it takes to win. Cirie was a great at strategy and manipulating but she still ended up fourth. Luck, numbers, physical strengh, social skills: they all come into play to put one person in the winner’s seat. I don’t think that’s a generaliztion but if it is, I’m sorry. :P
    RealityTV4Me, I used the term babies as an affectionate name for the young, not an insult. I am horribly ancient so that’s my perspective. No need to accuse me of lacking brain cells. I don’t think he could have made friends and influenced people. Casaya was a tight crowd in spite of how much they annoyed each other.

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    Babs
    Posted May 16, 2006 at 1:21 pm

    J-Unit, I can’t believe you didn’t catch when Jeff asked Aras about his hair. Apparently all the women were helping him with his hair each day?

    Also, thanks for quoting Terry’s “strap on” comment. I only half heard it during the episode.

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    juddfan
    Posted May 16, 2006 at 2:44 pm

    Thanks for the recap J-unit. I’m definitely one of the doubtful watchers, so I appreciate the insight. People here who did see it were very moved by the Tina ordeal, and so, I guess if I need a good weep, I’ll tune in.

    The rapid fire 2 sentence deals are one of the things I find incredibly dull, not that I begrudge anyone thier 15 minutes, but you know how you rate in the Survivor hall of fame by how long Jeffy spends on you.

    As to the idol, I don’t think they can keep the props, as I understand, they are usually auctioned for charity, also the torches and I don’t know about the tribe flags etc. I know Tina and Colby had a deal for their flag, so I could be wrong, but I knew a guy who was running St. Judes, and it seemed like a seasonal occasion.

    Overall, Cirie made this a watchable and, at times, enjoyable season, but with no Judd, or a similar girthy stud, it just wasn’t as good for me as Guatemala–I loved the pyramids too, even though it’s somewhat discusting to stage a reality show on them, and also to have eaten the ritual chicken!

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    HoneyBunny
    Posted May 16, 2006 at 2:45 pm

    z (#5)
    “Honeybunny, I don’t know if Terry got to keep the idol but I’m betting there are many people who would want to see it. And that would hold true even if some other Survivor player had found it. (Would Shane be a shmendrek for showing off his wooden blackberry?) You’re only dissing the idol because Terry had it ”

    The answer to your question is Yes.

    And the assumption that I was only dissing the idol b/c Terry had it is incorrect.

    hb

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    zevonia
    Posted May 16, 2006 at 3:07 pm

    Okay, HB. I stand corrected. :) I still think a lot of people would like to see things like that but upon further reflection, it would be a bit dorky to keep them and show them off. After all it is just a tv show.

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    HoneyBunny
    Posted May 16, 2006 at 3:18 pm

    z- (#24)
    Don’t tell anyone but I would be dorky enough to ask to see it!

    hb

  26. 26
    Victoria
    Posted May 16, 2006 at 5:49 pm

    Why was Shane wearing a Hogwarts uniform? Although it is appropriate he would be in Slytherin house.

  27. 27
    Victoria
    Posted May 16, 2006 at 5:51 pm

    juddfan: I guess you will have to wait for Cook Islands to see if there is a pudgy “hunk” you can crush on. I know I will be looking for my next Bobby Jon.

  28. 28
    Lubin Odana
    Posted May 17, 2006 at 12:46 am

    The annoying thing about the reunion show is the whole “what have I learnt about myself” shtick. It’s so self-aborbed – why can’t they just say what they’ve learnt about the world or about other people. And why do they have to learn anything? And some of the answers they give “I have so much confidence now. I’ve learnt I can do anything…” being very typical. Really? Lift that house then for me sweetheart. Or win an immunity challenge even.

    And all this “get off the couch” crap – the producers must be hoping that people don’t take it to heart as their ratings would go down the drain.

    When Courtney came on I just switched off completely because she came out with the most vague hokey rubbish: “It was a beautiful reflection into life and to how you relate to people and that we have our dreams right in front of us and the result is insignificant, it’s the road you take to get there and the one you choose to take on the way out and there are many more dreams in the future and I grew a lot as a person.”

    And she got applauded for that!!! Someone give her a job writing greetings cards. Or maybe she should start her own cult.

  29. 29
    DickeyD
    Posted May 17, 2006 at 12:14 pm

    zenovia (#5), you must have misunderstood me. I was not speaking of the car reward that Terry won. I was speaking of the useless reward challege in the final three that he won. Therefore I was not contradicting myself in saying that I was happy that Cirie won the car, and Terry could keep his “power meal” reward.

    sorry for the confusion

  30. 30
    bridgeguy
    Posted May 17, 2006 at 1:20 pm

    Not sure why age and life experience entitles one any more to snark and venting than another. That just seems silly. If anything you’d think age and life experience would temper the need to do that.

    Anyway, I have to say I fall into Zevonia and Sloaner’s camps on Terry. I didn’t see or hear a smug jackass when he was onscreen. To me, I saw a confident, competitive person with his back against the wall. Sloaner is dead on, I think. The Casayan alliance was just unbreakable. So talking about Terry’s “inability” to strategize is kind of moot. If Terry made a strategic blunder it was at the very first individual immunity challenge when he could have let Nick win immunity while he had the idol. La Mina had a good chance to gain numbers there. But even then no telling how the game would have played out. If Nick and Austin were around longer, would Terry still have won all those immunity challenges? Maybe not. It seemed to me that Nick and Austin had a close alliance going. Maybe Terry would have been gone even before the final four. I seem to remember B-Side cursing Terry at that point for “playing the game the way it should be played”. That is, every man for himself.

  31. 31
    zevonia
    Posted May 18, 2006 at 11:05 am

    DickeyD, sorry I misunderstood. You’re right the reward challenge didn’t do him any good so it was useless. Actually for a balancing challenge it may have done him harm as he had more in him to balance!

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