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By admin | Friday, December 9, 2005 | 1:05 pm | 49 Comments

survivor12-08-05Finally, the J-Unit has come back to SURVIVOR! Sorry folks, just channeling my inner Rock there. B-side would have really liked to have done this recap, but he will be traveling part of the day, and since there will be a two hour finale on Sunday as well as an Amazing Race two hour finale on Tuesday, the master must rest before he goes into battle, and I am happy to be the cannon fodder. While we had almost no scheming whatsoever throughout most of the game, it seems that over the last few weeks, people have started to get the hint. Jamie and Judd had been backstabbed into elimination by their own alliances. While this strategy was better than nothing, Jamie and Judd were voted off more because they were annoying than because they were seen as a danger. Still, having the guts to go up against these strong personalities and get rid of them took more than just dumb luck, and in the end, it had the same effects as any good strategic move: paranoia for the players and suspense for all of us.I was never really a big fan of Judd’s, but you do have to respect what he brought to the game. His “scumbags” line is going to be remembered for quite a long time. Judd’s departure was bad for Judd, but Cindy was smart enough to realize what it meant to her. People who aren’t in on the plan turn up missing later. Jamie was the first, and the person that the Rafe and Stephenie decided couldn’t be trusted in on the plan was Judd. Then when the group decided that Judd would be eliminated, Cindy was left out of the loop. Do we see a pattern here? What guarantee did she have that she wouldn’t next?

The answer is that nobody could make her any promises and the schemers handbook says that the perfect revenge would be for Cindy to take out one of the people who showed her no loyalty. Either Rafe or Stephenie would have to go, and since there were only five people left, they only people she had to make deals with are Danni and Lydia, the two people most open to suggestion. Yes Danni had a deal with Rafe for final three, but if you were Danni, doesn’t a final three with you, Lydia, and Cindy give you better odds? Would our dreams come true? We could only wait to find out.

survivor12-08-05aAfter Judd’s elimination, the last bits of masculinity were stripped from the camp. Who would have thought that what people call the most difficult Survivor ever would come down to four women and a gay guy? Well, if you look at the history of Survivor, women do impressively well, and there has been an all male final two exactly once. While there haven’t been that many more all female final twos, the fact that women are always there in the running in such a physical game, should mean that this outcome is not that strange. Granted, women often take a different path to the end, one less riddled with the carcasses of slain tribe members during the physical challenges, but saying that the female members of the species and their effeminate male friends are somehow at a disadvantage I think reveals a misunderstanding of the game.

With all of that equality shit out of the way, the Xhakum was really happy to have rid themselves of Judd. I said that the scheming to get rid of him was mainly because he was a nuisance and not pure strategy, because I think a lot of people would have liked to have taken Judd into the final two, because he really did piss everybody off. The reason they got rid of him is that they couldn’t stand how comfortable he was with the gifts god gave him, and although he wasn’t Richard Hatch, he got naked a few too many times for comfort. Overall, the comfort level of the tribe went up. As Rafe said, the cool kid left, so everybody got to have more fun and act Nerdy. And while there weren’t any cucumber peels or toe nail polish, the rest of the time was going to be a girl’s night out. With Judd around, do you think Rafe and Lydia would have felt comfortable singing “I Want It That Way” by the Backstreet Boys and cooing about how hot Justin Timberlake is?

So we have Gentle Rafe (that is what Lydia called him), who is one of the girls. If they are going to have a girl’s night out, one of them is going to have to drive while the rest are getting loaded on appletinis and vodka diet red bulls. Luckily for them, Mark Burnett was going to give them a chance at living that fantasy, because the tree mail contained only a car key. Lydia talked about how she would love to win for her son, while Steph talked about how nice it would be if she or Rafe won because they were the only people who didn’t own cars. It’s sort of funny because need has never really entered into her thought process in any other reward challenge when it was food, or else Lydia might have had something to eat already.

At the reward challenge, the game was second chance. The survivors would compete for supremacy while going through a course comprised of challenges they have already done. Five would start on the balance beam, untying those throwing sticks along the way, the top three would try to break a tile. The two people who broke their tile the quickest would then go on to solve a puzzle. When the puzzle was finished, the person would get into a wooden cart, cut a rope using a machete, and hurtle down the track, arms up like Bobby Jon racing his soap box derby entry to a Skynyrd concert. The winner would not only get the car, a Pontiac Torrent, but a trip to an archaeologist camp with a feast.

Throughout the whole challenge, my only wish was that Stephenie didn’t win. Not only has she been getting on our nerves all of this time, I was really hoping that the tribe would orchestrate her ouster. Rafe said that the cool kid was gone when Judd left, but Stephenie was just a big of a part of that group mentality that made people afraid to speak out or be themselves, lest they have to hear her lecturing them with that duck call voice of hers. The balance beam proved challenging, and everybody fell off at least once, except for Danni. It looked like Steph was going to be eliminated when she fell of towards the end, but she managed to regroup and join Danni and Cindy for the next portion, breaking tiles. For that challenge, Cindy and then Stephenie broke their tiles, moving them on to the final portion.

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At this point, I was feeling defeated, and my only wish was that Stephenie would win and take Rafe with her so the rest of the people could plot another double cross, but as luck would have it, Cindy finished the puzzle first and won the car. Having won, Cindy would have a really big decision on her hands. She felt betrayed by her friends, but would she really risk the chance of leaving Rafe and Stephenie at the tribe to plot her demise? Not bloody likely. Before she got a chance to pick who would go with her, Probst asked her an even bigger question. Every time Survivor has given somebody a car, that person failed to go on and become the sole survivor. Jeff rolled in a few more Pontiac Torrents and told Cindy that she could take the car, or she could give a car to each of the other four people. It was a move that would not only gain her favor, but would symbolically curse her competitors. I say symbolically because people who don’t win the car but are picked to have one (Amber, All Stars), don’t have any problem winning.

Cindy thought about it and realized that she could give all of them a car, but it doesn’t mean that any of them wouldn’t vote her out. Rafe and Steph had broken deals before, and Danni and Lydia are out there making deals with anybody. She kept her car, and picked Stephenie to drive away with her. Although the Survivor Car Curse said her chances of winning were now zero, she was out there to beat the odds. Winning a car is cool, especially if you are a zookeeper. I suspect that unless you are like the director of a really big zoo, being a zookeeper is not that lucrative, and so when she chose that life over that of an investment banker or trail attorney, she knew that the most luxurious ride she would be taking would be in those little golf carts as she races the elephant masturbator to Titus’ pen during mating season. Needless to say, the air conditioning blowing on her face was much better than monkey feces.

When they drove to the archaeological site, they found that an archaeologist was there to meet them. That’s too bad, because I was hoping that they would find the archaeological site with the strippers. Once there, they learned that it was going to be a sausagefest. No, they hadn’t stumbled upon a Gold’s Gym, their meal was literally a bunch of sausage and meat. Afterwards, Frederico the anthropologist regaled them with amazing stories, describing all of the wonders of the Mayan culture, although I am not sure Stephenie and Cindy were actually listening. They were talking about voting out Danni, and about Cindy’s decision, with Stephenie saying that it was what everybody else would have done in her position. They even joked about how everybody would be so jealous that they would vote them out right away, but the real consensus was that nobody would be that bitter.

While they were away at the reward, there was some debate going on at the Xhakum camp. Did Cindy do what any of them would do and keep it for herself, or would the move come back to haunt her. Rafe, who may be competing for ultimate control of his harem with Stephenie, seemed to think that Cindy’ move was fabulously stupid. Rafe couldn’t imagine that anybody would want to give up the good will that handing a person a car would mean. Plus, practically speaking, if four people could get cars instead of just one person, doesn’t that just make more sense. Dannie agreed with Rafe, and although Lydia didn’t really hold any resentment towards Cindy for what she did, she is not going to speak up and defend somebody if they are becoming a bigger target than she is.

On their return from the reward, it’s always expected that the people who won are going to talk about what happened, but for some Cindy, was going a little overboard. It’s fine that she came home and talked about the steering and suspension and how smooth it was. After all, CBS does have to pay the bills, right? But even after she was finished with the paid portion of her endorsement, she kept going on and on about how wonderful her car was. It wasn’t just any old SUV, it was really a luxury vehicle. Yeah, it was a luxury vehicle she only used for herself. I think it was easy to see that nobody was interested in what she had to say, but one of the greatest moments of ignorance I have ever seen, she said that they were all excited to hear about the car.

The immunity challenge involved some more ropes and poles. No, they weren’t going to re-enact the heart-warming shared tetherball scene from Napoleon Dynamite. It also makes me wonder if Cindy will be taking her new car off of any sweet jumps. I bet she could get like three feet of air if she tried. Anyway, the survivors were all tied to a piece of rope that was looped around several posts with locks at each one. They also had shackles on their feet and hands. They would have a keychain with a bunch of keys, but only one would open each lock. The first lock would be the one binding their hands, then one on each post, and then finally their feet. When they were through, they had to run to a flagpole and release their flag. They could go at any time, but to make sure they could reach, they had to unwind as much rope as possible. I know that sounds confusing, but don’t blame me, blame the bondage fetishists that run these Survivor challenges.

As much as I didn’t want Steph to win the reward, I *really* didn’t want her to win immunity. My earlier hopes of Cindy getting even and voting out Steph were severely tempered when she chose Steph to go with her to the archaeologist, and I really don’t want Rafe to go home, but I’m for scheming first, so I would have to see how it would play out. It turned out that the immunity was much like the reward with Cindy and Stephenie battling it out to see who would win. This time, it was Stephenie who won, and if I hadn’t had to take my apple pie out of the oven, I might have thrown my laptop across the room, Cooper style. What made it more frustrating was that Stephenie thought she had won twice, only to be held up when her rope didn’t reach her flag because of knots. Twice she had to go back and untie the knots, but it still wasn’t enough to give Cindy the win. BLAST!

survivor12-08-05dStephenie immediately began to cry after getting the immunity idol, exclaiming “I finally won something!”. I am sure all of you were fighting back the tears like I was. Oh poor Stephenie. She was on one Survivor, got a chance to come back, and is now in the final four! If she was an orphan, we could have made it into a movie for Lifetime, or perhaps Oxygen. OK, so it was her first individual immunity, but how many people even make it long enough to compete for individual immunity? How many people get to do it twice? And didn’t she notice that there are some people who have been doing a lot less winning than she has? So she had a hard time on the first season. So what?

With Stephenie’s immunity win, there were only two story lines that would make this all make sense. Any thoughts of Cindy having an original thought and trying to take out Rafe were slim, but what about the curse for the car? Would it come back to haunt Cindy? When Cindy came back, Rafe talked to Stephenie about what she would have done, and she said that she would have taken the car as well. It made Rafe realizes that perhaps he wasn’t playing this game hard enough. He isn’t here to make friends, so why act like it?

There is a lot to say about Danni, certainly more than what you would think you could say considering she is really getting into that hunger strike form. But this is only a game Dannie. Get serious! Sew your lips shut. That takes some real anorexic dedication. What I will say about Danni is that she has managed to navigate some tough times, and has done a pretty good job judging whom she should stay loyal to. She knows that she is going to be the next target, the last member of the final Yaxha tribe still around after the merge. She also knows that Rafe can bring Lydia and probably Stephenie. The only thing Danni needs to do is convince Rafe that it is important to keep her around, and she does that by telling him that not only would she not vote for him as agreed, she would take him to the final two no matter who else was there.

The prospect of this final two deal would be hard for Rafe to pass up. Danni was offering it to him without him having to offer anything in return to her. If he were going to keep his word, he couldn’t vote for Danni, he would have to choose between Lydia and Cindy. Let’s face it, when it is your ass and a million dollars on the line, you would rather have Lydia in the way than Cindy. Given a normal diet, I am sure that Lydia is a scrappy little fishmonger, but absent of nutrients you have to give Cindy the competitive edge. Besides, Cindy didn’t give up her car for the benefit of everybody, giving Rafe the convenient defense of selfishness and greed to defend campaigning against Cindy.

And so begins the perilous dance that is Survivor campaigning. First, Rafe goes to Stephenie and runs his idea of getting rid of Cindy past her. Stephenie tries to play smooth, but she sort of has a deal with Cindy, but she can’t say that she does, so she goes back to tell Cindy. They discuss getting rid of Rafe. They know that they can’t do it alone, so they go and try to convince Danni, and for a minute there, you sort of had an idea that maybe Amy Cusack’s dream of an all-female final four would come true. The thing was, Rafe had a habit of finding himself in the middle of many of these strategy conversations before too much could get discussed, but all of this seemed strange anyway because the alternative to Cindy was not Danni or Lydia, it was Rafe. Stephenie was worried about betraying Cindy on the jury and she was suddenly going to vote for Rafe? The smart play would have been Cindy offer Lydia final three to vote for Danni. Instead, they try and go for Danni’s biggest ally.

When it came time for tribal council, we all wondered if Judd was going to rush in and start beating people up, but I have to say that he was quite composed and when he is cleaned up and wearing pastels, he doesn’t look half bad. If it weren’t for Bobby Jon, Judd would have been the fairest one of all. Also, I have a gratuitous Lydia’s face in the fire shot since it’s been a few weeks.

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Jared Leto + Carbs = Judd?

Jeff started the questioning by asking how things were happening at camp. Were people sticking to their plans and alliances, or had the paranoia started kicking in now that Jamie and Judd had been blind-sided on their way out? Pretty much everybody agreed that you couldn’t trust anybody, which, allowed Jeff to go on to the next question, asking Cindy why she kept the car. With all of the history of Survivor going against her, plus a chance to foster good will among these people who have no problems removing people they have made promises to, how could Cindy not have given people a car. Despite the curse, I think it’s tough to say no to the car, but at this stage in the game, I think it is a pretty good gamble. The top three will probably have enough money to buy a new car of similar quality, even after taxes, and even the fourth place finisher can place a nice down payment on a Kia. This is not like taking $10,000 at the beginning of the show, when the odds are still way out of your favor for making the money back.

When the votes were cast, it was a landslide. Cindy was voted out with four votes. Again, trying to negotiate for Rafe’s departure was probably a bad move, and the person who was her biggest Ally, Steph, really had no incentive to campaign for her, especially after Rafe was sniffing around their plans. As Cindy left, she realized that the curse of the car was still in effect, and the scenario she predicted after Judd’s eviction came true. Problem was, she only had herself to blame. That car might have cost her a million dollars, and, well, you’ve already seen the title of this post. She tried to be all passive aggressive, saying that she hopes they enjoy themselves while she is looking through the sunroof of her brand new car, but when she is talking to a person who is going to win a million dollars, another that is going to win about a hundred thousand, one more that is going to win around $75,000 and another around $50,000, those words just don’t have the same effect as somebody who called them all scumbags, but I guess you can’t use scumbags two tribal councils in a row.

I think the finale should be interesting. Now that we are down to four, things really could go any direction. I think people would want Lydia to be with them at the final because she would be physically weak in the final endurance challenge, but it all depends on immunity and if Danni and Rafe decided to keep their promises and not vote for each other. It would be great if Rafe decided to go against Stephenie for campaigning against him with Cindy, and Danni would be smart to mention that as things go forward. Be sure to tune in this Sunday for the finale!

What did you think of the episode? Would you have kept the car? Did Cindy have any chance after she kept the car? Who do you want to win?

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49 Comments

  1. 1
    America's Next Top Fan
    Posted December 9, 2005 at 1:20 pm

    When are these people going to smarten up and get rid of Stephanie. At this point I don’t know who’s worse. Steph or Rafe because they are both like a bad rash that will not go away. This is Dani and the Elf’s last chance to oust the power couple and they better take advantage of it. GO Lydia!

  2. 2
    RealityTV4Me
    Posted December 9, 2005 at 1:25 pm

    I used to think that they should have gotten rid of StephaME a long time ago, too. But wouldn’t you stand a better chance against a conniving whiner who has already had one chance at this game? I say keep her in and go up against her.

    And I would not have even hesitated in giving up the car for myself and letting the others each get one. Two reasons: #1 – I dare the other four to be mad at me and vote me out now. And #2 – Some big hearted executive or Hollywood type would see my generosity and give me one after the show is over anyway.

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    Ash
    Posted December 9, 2005 at 1:33 pm

    Did anyone else catch Lydia’s super-creepy laugh when she was trying to cross her eyes? It was so weird…
    I think Danni should win because she really did beat the odds to stay in the game!

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    holyterror
    Posted December 9, 2005 at 1:46 pm

    That twist with the car was fuckin’ excellent!!! Let’s see more true “my benefit vs. my need to curry favor” action.

    I hate Cindy like I hate Death (that Cindy/Mindy image … shudder), but she made the right choice. In the end, at least she gets a cool car. If she gives everyone else a car, she fattens the people who vote her out.

    I love that she took the car, and I love that she was voted out. COOOOL episode.

    Rafe was majorly bitchin’ on how nice she should have been. I doubt anyone would have been selfless in her position. They get the car whether they shaft her or not … so why not shaft her?

    Plus, Rafe was bitchin’ on the car issue ’til the end. I’m sure that if he got the prize, he’d have no further use for Cindy.

    Enjoy the ride, Cindy and (shudder) Mindy.

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    jack
    Posted December 9, 2005 at 1:55 pm

    steph skids by yet again–AARGHH!! what is the MATTER with these people?!? yeah, i know, she won immunity, but steph’s name never even comes up when the scheming gets started. either they really are star-struck, or they’ve all decided that she’s the most beatable of the buff-athletic chicks in the final 2.

    “It also makes me wonder if Cindy will be taking her new car off of any sweet jumps. I bet she could get like three feet of air if she tried.”

    –as of late, Napoleon Dynamite references are edging dangerously close to “I’m Rick James, bitch!” territory, but somewhow, J-Unit, you can still pull it off. Somebody should bake you a cake or something.

    cindy pulled the dumbass move of the century. not only did she alienate the rest of her tribe and then compound the stupidity by coming back to camp and gloating about how great the car is while completely underestimating the righteous envy of rafe and his minions, but she overlooked a tried and true survivor formula: give a gift, and it comes back tenfold. in past survivors, when a reward winner has been given the option of passing up their prize so that the others’ can enjoy it instead, the generous winner always ends up being rewarded with an even better prize. even if that hadn’t been the case, it would have been worth the gamble, as i honestly believe that only steph would have been cold enough to send cindy packing after she gave her a car.

    steph is so f**ng jersey. the one consolation is that she has now thrown away yet another vote by royally screwing someone who just shared a reward with her. at this point, steph would probably even lose to lydia.

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    chronic
    Posted December 9, 2005 at 2:01 pm

    That whole curse twist really annoyed me. She won the car, fair and square, and is put in a lose-lose situation. I mean, if Rafe is whining so much that four people could’ve had cars instead of just one, then hypothetically shouldn’t one of those four then decide amongst themselves who would give their car up for Cindy. Anyway, no one is going to bring someone who gave four people cars to the final two; she’d have to win the next two immunities.

    I will say bad form on Cindy’s part not inviting Lydia along. I mean just once, could someone let that poor women eat, and not that glutton Steph, who’s reminding me more and more with each episode of that scene in Monty Python’s The Meaning of Life. The way she was carrying on when they announced the food part of the reward was, as always, revolting. And frankly, Lydia might’ve been the swing vote Cindy needed.

    But arggggghhhhhhhhh, I so did not want Steph to win immunity. See, that’s what happens, when people want to keep people around for strategy; might happen then when you finally do want to get rid of them, something like this happens.

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    Jersey
    Posted December 9, 2005 at 2:02 pm

    Had I been Cindy, I would have laid it out on the table right there and asked each of them: “If I give you this car, will you take me to the final 2? If they agreed, Cindy would have been in the power position, with the rest of them sucking up to her for her vote.
    As for Miss Stephanie, she doesn’t own a car? Boo Hoo. I have 3 friends that work in pharmaceutical sales, and I live in NJ. They all make just over $100 grand a year, plus bonuses. I’m a nurse and bust my ass saving lives, and they laugh at me cuz they wear cute clothes and push pills and make a lot more money. Steph must not be very good at her job if she can’t even save a few bucks for a down payment.
    DO NOT GIVE HER THE MILLION

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    shelley
    Posted December 9, 2005 at 2:05 pm

    every time stephaME wins or whines, i laugh bc i can almost hear all you guys growling and yelling at your tv’s!

    and i do beleive i may be the last stephaME supporter out there…but i like her. i hope she gets the 100K.

    i’m still all for Rafe the Wilderness Fairy to win!

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    is
    Posted December 9, 2005 at 2:08 pm

    Anyone up against StephaMe
    in final two will WIN.

    Anyone up against Rafe in final two will LOSE.

    Will anyone be covering PROJECT RUNWAY? It’s a GREAT show!!!!

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    CB
    Posted December 9, 2005 at 2:14 pm

    Did anyone else catch the celebration by Judd when Cindy got voted out. He was like “YES”. WHat the hell was that all about?

    When you think about it, yes danni has beat the odds, but so has steph. YEah she has gotten pretty annoying and everything, but who would have thought she would have made it this far? Bitching and moaning and whining aside…she’s gotten farther than anyone thought…

  11. 11
    J-Unit
    Posted December 9, 2005 at 2:15 pm

    jack,

    My apologies. After that picture of the two kids dressed up as Pedro and Napoleon was being passed around after Halloween, and the Idaho State Legislature passed that bill recognizing the creators of the movie, I kind of got the bug again. I promise not to mention Ligers though!

    totally agree with you on the altruism thing. the producers almost always reward the altruism in some way, at least when it was family members.

    To all:

    sg-dub will be doing project runway.

  12. 12
    ProphetOfRage
    Posted December 9, 2005 at 2:19 pm

    tina (the 2nd winner, i think) called into the survivor online show today & ripped cindy for the car decision. she said she should’ve made a deal right there on the spot; free pass on the next vote for a new set of wheels. think probst woulda gotten pissed, thrown down his man-hat and said “only I give immunity! somebody call burnett. no one undermines j-probe!”
    woulda been classic.
    not scumbag class, but close.

    danni + stef = hottest final 2 EVER.
    no wilderness fairies & little elves dressed like 13-year-old boys, please.

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    The Dogg Pound
    Posted December 9, 2005 at 2:19 pm

    Cindy so deserved to get voted off after her stupid comment that there are no guarantees in the game. Yes, there are, Cindy. If you gave everyone else a car, you would have had virtual immunity for last night’s tribal council. Do these people lose all sense of logic after being in the wilderness for 36 days, or do of these people lack a brain before the game even starts?

    Stephenie, STFU with your whining about how you had never won anything before. Every three days, you get to stuff your face because people keep picking you for the reward challenges. I will cry if Queen Jerseygirl wins on Sunday night. I said it last week, and I’ll say it again: this is Rafe’s game to lose.

    BTW, about that picture of a cross-eyed Lydia, I didn’t realize that demonically possessed troll dolls are available this Christmas.

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    John
    Posted December 9, 2005 at 2:21 pm

    I’m fairly sure Judd was just cheering Cindy’s goodbye diss to the rest (I’ll be thinking of you when I look…). It wasn’t “I hope you all get eaten by a crocodile”, but it was good enough for Judd.

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    chronic
    Posted December 9, 2005 at 2:24 pm

    Giving up the cars would’ve only gotten her one eviction further. She could’ve kept it and gone all the way, if she played it smarter.

    I’m not so well-versed in some of these past “altruistic” sacrifices or the surprise compensatory rewards, but I guess I just fundamentally object to the whole scenario in this case given the value of the reward she was being asked to forsake.

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    CB
    Posted December 9, 2005 at 2:26 pm

    Yeah thats what I was thinking John.

    Does anyone know if the people voted out get to see who voted for them?

    Steph has really screwed herself. She screwed Jamie, She screwed Judd, now she screwed Cindy. Actually she screwed Gary too, she told him that she would definitely tell him if they were voting for him, did she? Hell no. She did the same thing to everyone else. Acted stupid and then stabbed em in the back. What are the chances anyone votes for her if she gets to the final two.

    Did anyone else notice that in the previews for SUnday it shows who has the immunity idol on their neck at Tribal?

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    GOGODanni!!
    Posted December 9, 2005 at 2:31 pm

    I used to like Rafe until this episode. His annoying ass rantings about those damn cars got on my last nerve.
    Yes yes.. you’re a big frickin saint.. now shut the hell up already!
    I’d love to see him in Final 2 though.. against Danni. He would SO break under the pressure of the questions he would get… I just think it would be hilarious.
    I really hope Steph doesn’t make it to final 2… if she does though.. no matter who she picks.. I don’t think she’ll be winning anything.
    They don’t seem like the forgiving types and well.. she’s pissed off alot of the people in the jury.

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    Joe
    Posted December 9, 2005 at 2:49 pm

    Where did all this rafe wrath come from? He’s just playing the game without being a dick. By giving the other four players cars, which he says he would have done, IS playing the game! You wouldn’t do it for the sake of altruism. You would do it to play on the integrity [and guilt] of the other players. Weren’t we all taught not to bite the hand that feeds us to the point of it being reflexive? If it had been Steph’s decision and she gave the cars away, she still would lose the million because everyone currently on the jury hates her. They wouldn’t have gotten the cars and would vote against her because she is such an assbag. Hope she loses and throws one of her hilarious hissy fits.

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    Lizardqueen
    Posted December 9, 2005 at 2:52 pm

    I loved Lydia throwing her head back, baring her teeth, tossing in corn nuggets, and cackling like a loopcoaster.

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    suebee
    Posted December 9, 2005 at 3:07 pm

    I was hoping for a screencap where Rafe was sitting down and in the foreground was one of the girls standing up with her legs apart. Rafe was framed between the legs and looking up with a confused expression. Classic!

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    Andy
    Posted December 9, 2005 at 3:46 pm

    I agree with whoever posted above, Cindy should have taken Lydia with her on reward. I’m not surprised at all that she didn’t b/c so many there hold Stephanie up on a fucking pedestal. Ugh. If Rafe, Danni, and Lydia have any brains at all, they will vote Stephanie OUT (if she doesn’t win immunity). A final 2 with Rafe and Danni, I think, could go either way.

    SHUT UP, Stephanie!

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    Chris in L.A.
    Posted December 9, 2005 at 4:15 pm

    I’m pissed Lydia didn’t do the pancake.

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    Dana
    Posted December 9, 2005 at 4:17 pm

    I loved the zookeepr comments J-Unit! Speaking as one, Cindy did the right thing. Sure she put a target on her head b/c she kept the car, but there was no guarantee that any of them would have kept around any longer (broken promises abound in this game) and she got a SWEET car! No zookeeper is ever gonna be able to afford a car like that one. Shit yeah I would have kept the car! I just wouldn’t have talked about it so much when I got back.

  24. 24
    mikey
    Posted December 9, 2005 at 5:22 pm

    The second I saw the car at the reward challenge intro, before Jeff even mentioned the curse, I thought to myself: “I’d throw this challenge so I wouldn’t win. After all, every other car winner has gotten to drive away in the car with someone else for a follow-up meal. No way would I sequester myself away from the 3 people left behind at camp at this point. I’m not going to be on the outside of the scheming when I’m 3 days away from a cool million.”

    But I guess Cindy doesn’t think that far ahead… Typical of the lack of scheming so evident this season!

  25. 25
    Lizardqueen
    Posted December 9, 2005 at 6:17 pm

    I hear you Dana, but it seemed to be a lack of thought on Cindy’s part. She became woozy at the thought of the car and didn’t realize what it could really mean. I was IRATE that Cindy brought Barphenie on the reward, but perhaps that was a sneaky way to keep her scheming ass from scheming against Cindy. The zookeeper seemed to go from mild mannered sweety pie to entitled self righteous bonehead in a matter of seconds. In all likelihood she could have made it far enough to buy a couple of those cars if she had gifted to the others. Now, I’m still not over the brain donor move made by one Colby Dumbaldson in season 2, but I’m asking for a different form of altruism. Maybe a sneaky self serving one. When will reward winners learn to come back and shut up? “Yeah the food sucked. It was white bread and bologna sandwiches. Cholera water. The car sucks. It’s a lemon. I don’t even want to talk about it.”

    I think Dani and Rafe or Dani and someones dead grandmother would make a hotter final two than one with Steph in it. She is so stank (from the neck up).

  26. 26
    TWilliams
    Posted December 9, 2005 at 7:00 pm

    I have actually started to enjoy Stephanie again after these last few episodes. I liked her last season and thought that it would be neat to see how she’d attempt to play it again — and I think we all do have to admit she is a damn fine player. But after a few weeks into this season, I didn’t like what I was seeing or hearing in regards to Stephanie. Whine, bitch, whine, bitch, cry, whine, bitch, etc. She has slowly began to redeem herself in my opinion (although she does get to eat A LOT). Star-struck or not, she has made the final four. She must have something that we are not seeing on our television screens.

    Granted, she voted out Judd last week — but they all did (except Cindy). I wouldn’t say she was stabbing anyone in the back. She has realized she needs to vote someone out before they get smart enough to vote her out. She’s still there . . . I hope Judd took his own advice from last week, “deal with it.” She knows what she has to do — hell, even Judd said that is how you play the game (as long as it wasn’t him going home — too bad, the game works both ways). She even said whoever is sitting in the final two needs to be able to justify each and every one of their moves. The fact that she is STILL here shows how good of a player she obviously is — because who reading this wouldn’t have voted for her after the first or second tribal loss?!?

    Although Steph has started to gain my favor, she is far from being my favorite, I am cheering for Danni. Little Tonganoxie should be quite proud of how she has played the game. Has anyone this HONEST ever played the game of Survivor? My favorites NEVER win ANY reality show, so I am fearing for her chances. I do think she has a good chance, though.

    And now for my snob comment — since when is a Pontiac a luxury vehicle? Uh . . .

  27. 27
    GOGODanni!!
    Posted December 9, 2005 at 7:51 pm

    #7
    I also found it pretty unbelievable that Steph said she never owned a car.
    According to my bf who is a pharm…
    Pharm reps make a good amount of cash. She really must suck at her job or is just a big ass cheapskate.

  28. 28
    Laurie
    Posted December 9, 2005 at 8:36 pm

    Bobby Jon’s bright ass shirt blinded me from all events at tribal council. Scumbag. :)

    Anyways, if I was any of the players I would take Stephanie into the final two with me. If you consider Judd, Jaime, Bobby Jon, and now Cindi all hate her-there is no way she can win. I’m thinking Lydia will go out next, followed by Danni.

    And if Stephanie won’t spend the money to get her freaky eyebrows done by a professional, I’m not suprised she doesn’t own a car.

  29. 29
    Dana
    Posted December 9, 2005 at 8:38 pm

    I hear you LQ, but I still would have kept that car. No telling what they would have done. We’ll see how righteous Rafe and Danni are when it comes down to the end. Sure as hell I’d take Steph to the final 2 now. She burned too many bridges on the jury.

  30. 30
    Dana
    Posted December 9, 2005 at 8:40 pm

    btw J-Unit, how did you know about elephant masturbators? LOL

  31. 31
    Victoria
    Posted December 9, 2005 at 9:21 pm

    I would have given the other 4 the cars, and used my prize winnings to buy a car I actually want, because it sure as hell ain’t a Pontiac. Ian won a Corvette last time for God’s sake! Plus most drug reps, at least in my area, are given cars, due to the amount of travel involved in the job. So that crap about her not having a car is just that-crap.

    Wouldn’t you just love to hear the conversations that are going on back at the hotel with the people voted off? They should tape those and show them. I think it would be more interesting than the actual show. Plus, I’d get to see more Bobby Jon and his pink shirt that way : )

  32. 32
    Zharak
    Posted December 9, 2005 at 9:58 pm

    Danni isn’t a saint. She has lied before and her most “scumbag” move was backstabbing Blake. Smart player who will win the million though.

    And Rafe is a fucking tool. There’s nothing more annoying than a “holier than thou” martyr.

  33. 33
    geewits
    Posted December 9, 2005 at 10:56 pm

    This is the only place I can gloat. Weeks before the season started I picked Danni to win with Lydia placing second. When the “surprise” was announced, I said “Well then Stephenie will be in the top three, but I’m sticking with Danni and Lydia.” I had no emotional investment in these people, I just picked them. I guess I should go to the horse races more often.

  34. 34
    XETMOT
    Posted December 9, 2005 at 11:29 pm

    IMO, Rafe was being disingenuous saying he’d give cars to the others. That comment was pure strategy to make him more endearing.

    Maybe I’m just jaded, but I find no sincerity in anything he says (lately).

  35. 35
    Dave
    Posted December 9, 2005 at 11:39 pm

    It was so easy for Danni and Rafe to say they would have given the car up, THEY NEVER WON IT!

  36. 36
    Sperk5
    Posted December 10, 2005 at 5:16 am

    To CB:

    I did notice who had the immunity idol necklace on. In that tribal council all four of them were sitting there so that is the first half of the show. We at least know that this person is going to be a part of the final three. I rewinded the TiVo to see who had it on.

  37. 37
    Jay
    Posted December 10, 2005 at 5:37 am

    Here’s betting that while Stephame has never “owned” a car, that as a Pharm Rep, she has a company car. Doesn’t the winner usually get a car? Doesn’t the winner get some reward, like $1M? Second place gets a reward, too, don’t they, at least $150k? I’m betting that Cindy could parlay her final four appearance into a few hundred grand, more if she agrees to that Playboy shoot. A car is really the last thing she needed, but, now she has one, and a darn fine parting gift it is, indeed!

    I don’t care who wins, as long as it’s not Lydia!

  38. 38
    Zenthurah
    Posted December 10, 2005 at 6:02 am

    #34 I disagree. I think Rafe TWF is completely sincere in what he says and does. The guy doesn’t seem to have a ingenuous bone in his whole skinny body. I’m really surprised he made it this far. Go Rafe!

    I see that lizardqueen is just as long-winded and UNfunny as ever. WTF is it with you, LQ? Are you so full of yourself that you just love the sound of your own voice and feel everyone else in also enamoured with you?

    I know this is a long post, but I’m just so fed up with the Queen thinking SHE’S the sole proprietor of ALL comment pages. Give us a break lady and breathe once in a while.

  39. 39
    painterface
    Posted December 10, 2005 at 9:28 am

    “Has anyone this HONEST ever played the game of Survivor?”

    there was ethan from survivor africa. I don’t think he screwed anyone over.

    I’m going for rafe or danni to win it. danni has impressed me with the way she’s twisted everyone’s minds the past couple episodes. smart chickadee

  40. 40
    Danni2Win
    Posted December 10, 2005 at 12:21 pm

    #38 Zenthura, Couldn’t agree with you more but just skip over them like I do.

  41. 41
    chick110
    Posted December 10, 2005 at 12:57 pm

    Every time I see someone win a car in Survivor, I wonder who the poor fool is that is going to get that actual car. You know that CBS wouldn’t pay for them to ship the car back to the States for the person, so someone in that area will be getting the car. Which is now stinky just like the people who were sitting in it… Kinda like that car that Seinfeld had in that one episode.

    I agree that Stephanie really needs to go to a professional for those eyebrows. They are scary and should come with a parental warning!

    Go Danni! Or at least win a food reward so you can EAT something! Poor thing is going to blow away soon.

  42. 42
    TWilliams
    Posted December 10, 2005 at 2:31 pm

    Painterface (#39), yes . . . Ethan. Colleen was pretty honest as well. They had skipped my mind.

  43. 43
    mac
    Posted December 10, 2005 at 8:23 pm

    Colleen was a sweetie!!
    I didn’t get to see to much of Survivor Africa so I really didn’t see Ethan play, but what I’ve seen of him since on other shows, he really seems to be a very decent guy.

  44. 44
    Jess
    Posted December 10, 2005 at 9:10 pm

    If Rafe wins, I get a free lunch with my work Survivor pool (AKA a free awkward lunch with strange administrative assistants I never talk to on a daily basis! whee!) Go Rafe!

  45. 45
    ldini79
    Posted December 11, 2005 at 7:41 am

    nice post, TWilliams, I completely agree with you about Steph. Sure, she has almost been so annoying this year that I forgot how much she kicked ass last year (well, as much as you can kick ass without coming close to winning), but she really redeemed herself to me when she was so happy she finally won immunity. She really does want to win this. I could see her winning the rest of the challenges, Kelly Wigglesworth (best name EVER) style. But at this point, her only hope to win is to take Lydia and hope that people think that someone who sucks deserves it even less than someone who had a second chance. I like Danni too though, so I think it would be sweet if it was a Danni/Steph final two – 2 kickass strong females at the end.

  46. 46
    GregnNYC
    Posted December 11, 2005 at 9:30 am

    If I was Cindy, I would’ve said, “Okay, guys, I’ll give you the cars, but if any of you win the million besides me, ya’ll are going to BUY me a car in return!”

    And also- the sudden Rafe Rage on this posting board surprises me. Yes, he was a bit bitter about the car thing, but overall, he’s played an amazing game. And he’d be smart to take Stephanie to the final two because Steph has backstabbed everyone on the jury. Whereas Danni hasn’t.

  47. 47
    zack
    Posted December 11, 2005 at 10:30 am

    come on people look at all the dorks on the jury… which one of them deserved to be in the final 6 even… they are all sore losers… bobby jon isn’t too bright, jaimie is freaky, gary strikes me as someone you could not trust and poor old judd got booted because he was so sarcastic and miserable to be around, he wouldn’t play the game to win… as for lydia, please she should have been booted off in the first four. i have never seen anyone as hopeless as her play this game… she was useless in every challenge and she doesn’t look like she is starving to me… i liked rafe until the past 2 episodes, he is finally showing his true colours but he does deserve to be in the final 2 with the “class” of survivor guatemala, “DANNI” she has played the game with passion and integrity and she is a fox. ( just put back on the15-20 lb she has lost ) she is very good athlete and deserves to make it to the final and she will win because she will have more fans than rafe will.. i had wanted steph to win but she has truly annoyed me this survivor, she does tend to whine quite a bit but she is a fierce competitor ( as good as anyone has ever been on survivor ) this has been the most interesting survivor to date in my opinion. can’t wait for sunday night… steph must win immunity or she will be the first to go… rafe is now playing hardball

  48. 48
    Coby
    Posted December 11, 2005 at 10:39 am

    In response to post #10.

    The reason Judd exclaimed “YES!” was because Cindy slammed everybody with her stars thru the sunroof comment not because he was glad she got voted out. :)

  49. 49
    TWilliams
    Posted December 11, 2005 at 10:40 pm

    Zack (#48), I have to correct you on one statement — or at least ask if something has slipped your mind.

    You said, “i have never seen anyone as hopeless as her play this game” in reference to Lydia. I was no Lydia fan either; but did you not happen to watch the season with Boy Scout troop leader Lil? Now is you statement still true or do you need to modify it? Just wondering . . .

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