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So yeah, like I said in my ABL, this episode was pretty so-so. In part because while shit did go down, it didn’t really feel like it, and in part because the producers tried to make me believe that Corey and Leah were hitting a “rough” patch, when in fact, they just fight cute. Another reason to love them. We’ll be keeping up with the “Baby WTF Face” contest this week, so get yer captionin’ fingers ready!
Finally, an US magazine I almost bought outside of an airport terminal.
First up is Kailyn – apparently she and Jo are trying to make their relationship work, which is an update from last week. They’re kissing and whatnot, Jo’s being nice and it’s very, very Twiliiiight Zone. But Kailyn VOs that she can’t focus on all that right now because it’s her first day of school! She drops off Isaac with a friend of her mother’s (they can’t afford a real babysitter, which is why they’re going with someone with such a dark mark in their favor), and heads to the community college. She meets some friends there who walk her to her first class, and it makes me smile to see how nervous she is and to see that she at least knows some people who are staying in town for school. Her first class is an English composition class and the first thing the professor does is tell everyone in class that they need to be on time. I’m wondering if this is foreshadowing for problems Kailyn will face in the future when she and Jo inevitably need to get restraining orders for each other.
Look, even she knows that day is looming.
In North Carolina, Jenelle’s off to register for classes, but she didn’t save up enough from her Summer job to pay for school, so she has to see the financial aid office. Barbara sends her off with abrasive orders to bring Jenelle’s proof of car insurance, Jace’s birth certificate and a reminder to tell the financial aid people that though Jenelle lives at home, her mother does not support her.
Truer words, my friends… Truer words…
Jenelle’s expecting all sorts of financial aid because she’s a single mommy, and is just trying to go to school to make life better for her adorable son, Jack. I mean Jake! I mean Jace! I’ll bet you money Jenelle’s uttered those same words at some point in Jace’s life. She was probably drunk at the time, but I’ll bet it happened. So yeah, she’s expecting the aid thing to be a mosey through Easytown, but just as I suspect, the fact that Barbara has custody of Jace fucks her financial aid ass backwards. Basically, if she were a single mom, she’d be an independent student, and she wouldn’t have to provide Barbara’s information on the financial aid forms. But, as she does NOT have custody of Jace and cannot prove she provides 50% of his support (which she totally doesn’t), she reverts to being a dependent student and now must provide her mother’s information on the forms.
That’s if she doesn’t get kicked out of the house before the forms are due. Whoops! Spoiler!
For anyone who’s gone through the rigmarole of applying for financial aid, you’ll know that even if your parent says they cannot afford to send you to school, it’s the school who makes that call. They’ll take every last dime your parents have left over from their own expenses and apply that to what you’ll eventually owe. Add that to Barbara’s general aversion to helping her daughter succeed, and Jenelle rightly surmises that giving up custody of Jace has screwed her in more ways than one.
In West Virginia, Leah’s mooning about, sad that living with Corey hasn’t turned into the newlywed, permanent honeymoon paradise she obviously thought it would be.
This is Alejandra’s complete lack of surprise.
Corey works from dawn until dusk and since they’ve moved an hour away from Leah’s family, she’s stuck at home most of the time watching the girls. It’s getting to her and Ali, too. Well, Ali always wears a frown of displeased consternation, so maybe that’s just her face.
I disapprove of this walker.
Ali calls one of her friends who’s off at college, I’m guessing, and wishes she could be there, too. She tells her friend that she wants to get into a nursing program, but she’s heard it’s really hard. The friend hangs up, and Leah VOs that she wants to go to college, but she’s not sure it’ll happen right then, as she’s basically raising two kids on her own. Aww, she’s being goofy and emotional, but I love her anyway.
Ugh, in South Dakota, Megan and Chelsea are doing more stupid shit. They’re in what I’ve now discovered is Megan’s bed, not Chelsea’s, discussing a list of rules Adam must follow. He must put Chelsea and Aubree first. He must treat momma and baby “good.” Chelsea agrees wholeheartedly with that one and then pipes up eagerly that he should also stop cheating on her. Yes, Chelsea. In addition to treating you good, Adam should also stop fucking other girls.
WHY DO DUMB PEOPLE PROCREATE?????
Megan points out to Chelsea that not cheating does indeed fall under the “treat momma and baby good” umbrella, and the girls move on. Adam must treat “best friend” good – oh, yeah, apparently Adam’s a dick to Megan. Why am I not surprised? It’s not like she can blow him or provide free housing.
Oh, good, talk time is over. Glad that was short. Commercial!
In West Virginia, Leah is a big fat liar – she does do stuff! Her mom and stepdad are headed over for dinner! See, life as a teen mom of twins is full of fun. Throw those condoms right in the trash, 16-year-olds! She VOs that she hopes her mother is over thinking Leah and Corey moved in too fast. Why? So when Leah complains about it her mother won’t say, “Aaaah, tol’ you so!” The conversation moves right along to Leah’s aspirations for college, and her stepdad advises both young parents that that’s an endeavor they will have to embark on together. Then Leah starts complaining that she does most of the work already, and her mother points out that Corey’s working and Leah isn’t, so that’s the way it should be. Then Leah fires back that Corey should help more on the weekends because she has not just one baby, but two, and her mother AWESOMELY snaps, “Sorry about your luck, Honey, but you’re a mom.” The scene ends with Leah’s VO that she wishes somebody understood how little time she has to herself.
My mom understands, Leah. She just doesn’t understand why you’re bitching about it. Especially when you don’t work two jobs like she did starting about six weeks after I was born.
We head back to South Dakota for more of Chelsea’s studying. Guess what? Babies are distracting, so why bother trying? Especially with a built-in babysitter living with you? Pfft, waste of time. Adam comes over before Chelsea’s motivation comes back, and he and Chelsea head outside to go over the list of “rules.” Does Adam agree to everything? Of course he does! I would agree to eat a live snake if it meant I live somewhere for free. Especially if that “where” included sex. But he makes this face throughout the entire conversation, so I have a feeling Adam’s word is about as good as his fashion sense.
He’s such a chode.
In Pennsylvania, Kailyn’s having a great time at school, but going from there straight to work every day is wearing on her. And it’s probably awkward seeing Jordan all the time. Jo’s helping with the baby a lot while she’s not there, but apparently no one is helping with the laundry, and Eddie’s getting PISSED. Janet tells Kailyn that her laundry has to be done by Friday, Jo says he just put it in, and doesn’t understand why Kailyn couldn’t do it. Then ensues a faaascinating and dramatic argument in which both parties express that they work and blame each other for not doing other things. Janet thankfully puts the kebosh on that bullshit right quick by telling both of them that everyone in the house has a long day at work, and the last thing she (homeowner, authority holder) wants is to come home to bickering. Kailyn snaps that she’ll work on it and heads off to do homework, while Jo follows, poutily drinking out of his solo cup. Eddie sips out of his giant, plastic fast food cup, and doubts that the kids will ever change. I doubt the Rivera’s capacity to drink out of anything besides disposable glassware. Commerical.
Has anyone else noticed this? They do it a lot!
In North Carolina, Jenelle did manage to get information from her mother for financial aid, but apparently the incorrect tax form was submitted. She’s at Kieffer’s (or wherever Kieffer’s squatting), and needs to call her mom to request the correct form. I’m recapping all of this in great detail because Barbara literally FLIPS HER SHIT on Jenelle for like, 20 straight minutes over the fact that Jenelle apparently waited until the last minute to ask for the form, and I need to know if I missed something. I mean, yeah, I get it, Jenelle does dumb shit, but if Barbara freaks out every time like she does this time, I’m surprised she’s not dead or the recipient of a heart transplant.
I’m not kidding, Jenelle calls her, and Barbara screams over the phone for entire conversation. Kieffer and Jenelle head over to the house, Barbara yells some more. Jenelle claims the form Barbara thrusts at her isn’t the right one, then shit really hits the fan.
Somebody mail this woman copy of Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance before she has an aneurysm.
Adam’s big moving day. It seems to take awhile, which I don’t really understand given that it looks like he hauls in some t-shirts, a water bottle and some X-Box games. He and Chelsea have an adorable time fighting over closet space and playing with the baby on the bed, and Chelsea actually has the nerve to VO that things with Adam seem to be going good. Well, kudos to Adam. He can last five minutes! Something tells me that Chelsea has yet to experience an orgasm that wasn’t DIY.
In West Virginia, Leah’s friend Reagan is visiting, so Leah’s jumped at the chance to get out of the house for some Leah-Time. Meanwhile, I’m not at all surprised Reagan was able to get out of Dodge sans baby.
In two years that accent’ll be gone and she’ll be working for a PR firm in New York City.
Leah complains that she can’t accomplish what she wants to accomplish because while Corey does try to take care of the girls by himself, but he’s not very good at it. Leah thinks he’s a little afraid to be alone with them. Aww, so cute. But seriously, what the fuck was he doing on his weekends alone with them? This worries Leah because if she wants to go to college (which she is very confident she could handle, and I love her for the fact that she does. Not. Whine. Very much.), but she doesn’t think she could count on Corey to watch the girls. I don’t believe for a minute there’s anything those two crazy kids couldn’t accomplish, so your attempts, MTV, to make me worry for the future of my favorite couple, fall short!
In Pennsylvania, my least favorite couple (at least Chelsea and Adam provide comedy) is, you guessed it, tense again. Ever since the Great Laundry Fight, things have been rough, so Eddie sits Kailyn down for a talking-to. She rightfully dreads it – Eddie is one intimidating motherfucker. Even with his goofy plastic cups.
Okay, not when he’s sitting like this. Here he kinda looks like Buddha, but still.
Eddie tells her he’s not taking anyone’s sides, but she and Jo need to work their shit out. It’s kind of hard to understand him because he doesn’t really speak up and every other word is bleeped out, but this is what I got. Kailyn and Jo need to stop making everyone else’s lives hell and work out their shit, or Eddie’s gonna lose his temper and “it’ll all be over.” Or something. I guess that means a “Full House” cancellation if you catch my drift.
Kailyn VOs that with things getting tense at home, she’s glad she has school. Oh good, that probably means she’s doing well. But not for long! She calls Jo after class and he tells her that he got into a fight with his dad and got them both kicked out! Hooray for Jo! Well, really, hooray for Eddie. I hope he told his son not to come back until he stops trying to be a cholo. Jo, behaving spectacularly responsibly in this situation is taking Isaac to Newark and basically tells Kailyn to fend for herself. Kailyn rightfully hangs up on her dumbass baby daddy, and shakes her head at now being homeless.
I hope she consoles herself by rightfully blaming Jo for everything. I would. Those opportunities in life for righteous victimhood don’t come along very often.
Luckily, Kailyn manages to find a friend to stay with, and she calls Jo once she’s calmed down. The calm doesn’t last very long, though. Here are a few of Jo’s brilliant ideas that come out while they’re on the phone:
1. His dad is a disrespectful piece of shit.
2. He and Kailyn need to start looking for an apartment in New Jersey.
3. That apartment should be in New Jersey.
4. The reason for New Jersey is that they need to start looking at what is convenient rather than what is comfortable. (That was a direct quote, btw. I’m not sure what he means, but I’m guessing it’s something Eddie says a lot that Jo has perverted.)
5. Kailyn is selfish and cannot compromise because she doesn’t want to leave her school and job to move to New Jersey for absolutely NO REASON.
Needless to say, she and Jo need to get off the phone before they break one and they agree to meet the following day. Oh, FYI, Jo has a cousin or something in Jersey, so that’s why he went there. I’m not surprised he has no friends to visit.
In South Dakota, Adam changes a diaper on the floor, amusing Megan to no end and giving Chelsea another reason to avoid schoolwork.
Mother, I wish you would consider wearing underpants more often. There are cameras present. Winner of this week’s Best Baby WTF Face! Caption away!
Chelsea still hasn’t told anybody in her family about Adam, but she decides to tell her sister. Her sister agrees not to tell Randy, but doesn’t understand how Chelsea can keep something like this from him. Because you’re sister’s an asshole, Dude. She’s nice, but she’s an asshole. And she’s dumb. Anywho, Chelsea mumbles some shit about not wanting to disappoint her dad so much in such a short time, but doesn’t tell Adam to move out, nor does she finish her schoolwork, so I don’t believe her. Pfft.
In North Carolina, Jenelle is bemoaning the fact that her mother treats her badly to Kieffer, who is sweet and supportive. He doesn’t give Jenelle any advice on how to fix the problem, nor break to her the bad news that it’s going to have to be her who learns to hold her temper eventually because Barbara is far too set in her ways to learn new tricks, but he’s still sweet, so I don’t hate him yet. Jenelle’s not worried about Jace, though. Barbara doesn’t yell at Jace. No, you two just yell allll around him, every moment of every day. Kid’s either gonna be verbally abusive or hard of hearing. Or both. And of course , in classic Jenelle fashion, just as I’m getting to be on her side, she goes and acts like herself again. Even though she has to babysit Jace the next day, she and Kieffer decide to spend the night at Amber’s and Jenelle oversleeps her alarm. Needless to say, Barbara is less than pleased.
This is the part of the voicemail where she told Jenelle, “Ya make me sick!”
In West Virginia, Leah’s out with Kayla (joy) and Corey’s watching the girls for the first time by himself since they moved in together. Cut to Corey unable to find bottles, baby wipes or his ability to make the girls stop crying. It’s really, really cute. I’m sorry that’s all I can say about it, but the girls totally know that Daddy doesn’t know what the fuck he’s doing and I think they’re messing with him on purpose.
I pooped EXTRA smelly for you, Daddy!
In Pennsylvania, Kailyn has lunch with her friends and after a roundabout discussion, it’s pretty obvious that no one at the table thinks Kailyn moving in with Jo is good for Isaac. Including Kailyn. However, the only other option is moving in with Suzi, and Kailyn isn’t too excited about that either. Ooooh, it shall be an interesting dinner with Jo, this evening, that’s for certain. Commercial!
In South Dakota, Chelsea should be studying, but it’s a much better idea to get pedicures while Adam watches the baby, so that’s what they do. Hilariously, if Chelsea hadn’t been such a lazy douche, she would have been home to meet her dad as he makes a surprise visit to the house! Unfortunately, she wasn’t, and her dad lets himself in to see all manner of Adam’s shit lying about. The jig, she is up.
Randy calmly asks Chelsea if Adam has moved in and she answers, “Kinda…” Randy gets about as close to blowing his top as I think I’ve ever seen him which means a slightly raised voice, and reminds Chelsea that one of their rules about the house was that Adam couldn’t be there. Chelsea asks if he wants her to move out, and Randy FAILS ME by saying, “No, I want him to move out.” Come ON, Randy!! Adam is not the only person making this a shit situation! Your daughter needs to learn that if she can’t treat herself well, she needs to treat other people (you, Megan, Aubree) well. Kick her ass out, move her back home because she obviously is not responsible enough to look after anything but her own emotions.
I threw this in in case anyone thought about disagreeing with me.
It’s painful to watch the rest. Chelsea basically waits her dad out and he eventually caves, stating that if Adam’s going to stay there, he’d better pitch in. I’m disappointed in you, Randy. Fucking disappointed.
Okay, Randy, take some notes – this is how you yell at your teenage mom daughter: Jenelle arrives home and this time it’s Mike waiting for her with Jace, and it’s his turn to yell at her for being a shitty mom. He does, and she escapes into her room with Kieffer to cry. She feels bereft and lonely at the house, and Kieffer just hugs her and tells her he loves her. He also AWESOMELY tells Jenelle that she does bring some of it in herself. I hate to say it, but even though he got her arrested, dude could be worse. Of course Barbara comes home, and not only totally loses it, but triumphantly kicks her daughter out of the house for good. She’s pleased as punch to scream that Jenelle will have to call her to see the baby, and for her part, Jenelle packs her things and gets out of that house in a hurry. Fuck, I would, too.
Barbara I think I could deal with, but the day a man with a fumanchu starts verbally abusing me is the day I scoot out of whatever situation I’m in.
Jenelle sits with Kieffer in her car and vows to get Jace back and be a better mother than Barbara ever was. I hope you watch a lot of TV Jenelle, because Barbara is all you know, and the first time Jace pisses you off, you’ll probably be surprised at the volume of your voice… Commercial!
It’s final wrap-up time, and Leah confronts Corey about his ability to watch the kids when she goes to class. A fight ensues, of course, and God! It’s fucking cute even when they don’t communicate! Corey doesn’t get why Leah doesn’t think he’ll step up, and Leah explains it’s because he never DOES watch the girls. Corey explains that it’s because she doesn’t go anywhere, and Leah has to refrain from strangling him as she screeches, “EXACTLY!” They bicker a little bit more until Leah ends the conversation and straight tells Corey to shut-up when he tries to say one more thing. But she doesn’t walk away, and it’s obvious they still love each other, so it’s really fucking cute when she practically gives him the hand.
In Pennsylvania, Kailyn prepares to shatter Jo’s dreams of a nuclear family of which he is all-knowing head. They meet for dinner, and she explains that she thinks it’s an awful idea for them to move-in together at the moment considering how much they fight. Jo thinks that just vowing not to fight is enough, but Kailyn disagrees. She also doesn’t want to rely on him, but Jo clarifies that if they lived together, they’d be helping each other. Wow, that was spectacularly astute for Jo. Kailyn can’t bring herself to tell Jo that she wants to live alone, so the two decide to get a motel for the night and talk about things in the morning.
As shall we… Recap over for this week, Cats and Kittens. I’ll see you in the comments:-)
Oh, and next week looks AMAZING!!!
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I think we should hook Jo up with Amber from teen mom. Think about it they could be gangster and thug like together. I think it would work out in some bizarre murder suicide thing where they both loose but America wins.
Randy really let me down this week…I’m hoping he redeems himself next week. But if I was footing the bill, I would have told Chelsea if she insisted onher fashion-challenged baby daddy living there then she could start paying the rent.
I’m so torn for Janelle. Barbara is obviously an asshole but she does bring so much on herself. And really, where does Keefer live? We know he has no job and no car…is he also homeless?
Something *really* doesn’t add up about Kailyn. Up to now, the Riveras were willing to grudgingly give her a place to live so their grandkid would have a home too. This despite her trying to see someone else and being a grump about laundry. So what aren’t the cameras showing that prompted Jo’s dad to kick them both out?
I want to take a big old wet wipe to Chelsea’s face. Between her and Amber, I see in orange for days after watching Teen Mom.
Elmstreet: I agree about the Jo/Kailyn thing…what the heck did happen to suddenly make them kick them out? There again, I have a friend that the mom was letting her and the boy live with them and although the father hated it, he didn’t really get a vote. Had he ever gotten mad at one of them and started having a screaming fight, he would have kicked them out and mom wouldn’t have a vote anymore. Maybe it’s that kind of thing…mom’s in charge till one of you makes me mad.
Anyway! I want to love Leah and Corey, but Leah complains too much. She still wants to be a teen and I understand that, but she wants everyone to do everything so she can be a teen. She needs to grow up some more.
Jenelle needs to grow up and Barbara needs to clam down. In her situation, Jenelle’s best bet is to shut her mouth and just do what Barbara wants rather than fighting with her. I can see her screaming at Jace over stupid things as well because she does’t seem to know any way else to handle being mad about something.
I’m equally disappointed in Randy. When I saw him walk in while they weren’t home I was so excited like “yes he’s going to freak!” But he didn’t, he caved! I would have told her “no you don’t have to move out, you just have to pay the bills. Have a good one.” I’m hoping and praying for something better…or for Doctor whoever to rip Randy a new one for not standing up for himself and needing to “express his feelings” during the recap/reunion show.
bananas, it’s ideas like that that made us a superpower. Keep up the good work.
I feel bad for Janelle. When she was crying to Kieffer about her mother never telling her she loved her, it seemed very genuine. And Jenelle obviously takes love
from whoever will give it to her, whether they are actually good for
her or not. If only there was another STABLE family member to take
temporary custody instead, b/c for all of Jenelle’s faults, Barbara is no better. She’s just bad in different ways. My son is ten now and my mother wouldn’t dream of berating me like that in front of my son. She might yell about something later, but I had him when I was eighteen and lived at home for awhile and that kind of verbal abuse never happened. It’s just so sad to me.
On the up side… I still totally adore Corey and Leah!
Keefer and Jenelle have been arrested for B&E and possession…. should that surprise anyone??
http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2010/12/jenelle-evans-teen-mom-2-train-wreck/
Oh, so much to say…is it wrong that I’m judging a bunch of kids. Probably. Do I care? No.
I love Leah and Corey…they are so cute! If I was 17 years younger, I’d get knocked up by Corey because I don’t want to work and it seems like he’ll support me. I did read the US Weekly article and they are still adorable.
I was so mad at Randy! I went from liking his style to realizing that he is a total doormat for his daughter. He’s all talk.
What’s up with Barbara – she’s crazy! Sometimes I’m on Jenelle’s side – how does she not know what a 1040 form is? Plus, the IRS is kind in one regard and they label their forms in big bold type at the top, so how can she maintain she provided the correct form? But then Jenelle can’t make a 10:00AM appointment (probably because she was passed out) and she loses my support.
I think that Eddie was having an affair with Kailyn and Jo found out and Jo is just holding that in to use against Kailyn in the next big blow out. That’s the only thing I can think of for the complete 180 and the leaving the son, baby mama and grandbaby on the street.
I just copied and pasted this from the about last night section cause I’m too lazy to type it out again
oh and Alejandra, love the Fight Club reference ( Alejandras complete lack of surprise:))
I usually try to take up for Chelsea, but this week was too much, I think I’m over her – I was really hoping that her dad would lay down the law, but alas…was it me or did it look like Megan and Adam fight next week? Atleast someone is calling him out on his bullshit. My poor Kailyn, the girl just can not catch a break, damn! Jo suggesting a move to nj is totally dumb, doesn’t he work in pa? And obviously Kailyn is totally established there…one thing I thought was weird was Kailyn not wanting to go to Newark right away to see Isaac, but I can’t fault her too much, I’m sure she trusts Jo with him for a night. Oh and Jenelle…Jenelle Jenelle…I’m With Alejandra on that one, but I think her and Barbara have a which came first the chicken or the egg thing going…does Jenelle act out and behave irresponsibly because of growing up under Barbara’s wrath OR does Barbara act that way towards her because she’s always been out of control? I can’t call it, but J needs to get her stuff together and right now, she just bothers me, I did feel bad when she said B calls her a slut, etc…but she was a jerk for over sleeping in the crackhouse with Keiffer on Sat morning….
On the New Jersey thing, I think Jo and fam live in Easton, PA? If so, I thought he meant to Philipsburg, NJ which is literally across a bridge from Easton. Maybe housing is cheaper or something? But yeah its like moving to the next town over and maybe they have a good reason
I don’t know which parent is more stupid. Jenelle’s mom has custody of Jace but lets Janelle stay in the house to babysit. Poor little Jace has already checked out and all the screaming doesn’t phase hime. Then Chelsea’s dad seting her up in a rental house because she is oh so mature.
@Jeanine, ” feel bad for Janelle. When she was crying to Kieffer about her mother never telling her she loved her, it seemed very genuine. And Jenelle obviously takes love
from whoever will give it to her,”
I thought almost verbatum the same thing. Another thing, right now Jace is needy. He isn’t in the position to give her the unconditional love that she and most other teenage mother’s thought they would get from a baby. As you have so eloquently said before, the unconditional love comes from the Mother.
TC, Robin
PSS, After I wrote that I started to think about the unconditional love that Janelle never got from Barbara. All it takes is a few moments on screen with them and it is apparent that Barbara has never been the kind of mom that lifts you up when you fall down. She takes every mis-step as a personal affront and an opportunity to make her kid feel worse because she, deep down knows, that her kid got that way because she was an awful mom herself.
I’m late to the party but have you guys heard that Megan is also pregnant? yep, she got preggo in hopes of pitching a spinoff to MTV with herself, Chelsea, and another statistic. I don’t know if it worked because I also read that she and Chelsea are no longer speaking. She’s probably mad that Megan tried to steal her thunder. She’s the only failure in that household, there can’t be two! (When she finally opened her eyes, she realized there were three, Adam included)
Babies give unconditional love. When my little one sidles up to me and snuggles into my lap, or looks into my eyes and puts her little soft hands on my cheeks, she’s saying “Mommy, I love you.” When she leaves her grandmothers lap and reaches for the me the minute I walk into a room, she’s saying, “Mommy, I love you.” When she doesn’t judge me for waking up and feeding her breakfast with my unbrushed hair standing all over my head, she’s saying, “Mommy, I love you, but sheesh!”
How old does Keefer look to you guys? He seems to be well beyond his teen years. I’d say, 22-24 yrs?
I refuse to believe someone will get pregnant just for a TV show..I refuse to believe that people are that shallow! Its not like its a temporary thing that you can give back once the cameras are off. Being a teenager or not, thats just pure studity! Hell I am a married woman with a good job and I have 2 kids under 2.. and there are days when I am like WTF was I thinking!
2Hyper: Studity may not have been what you meant, but it’s probably what a lot of these kids are thinking. Awesome unintentional typo that I’m going to start using. And I have enough friends with one kid under two that I’m amazed you can type at all; I’m not being snarky or passing judgement here.
@Sarcastire-
You’re right. Babies do give unconditional love, by needing you and only you. Because you’re his mama, and all he knows in the world.
However, I think Jenelle is too immature to understand this, she just sees it as work. And by letting her mom take over from the beginning, she missed out on a lot of bonding time with Jace.
@Robin, you’re right, although like Sarcasatire says, babies usually do give unconditional love to their mommies and daddies, Jace has been terribly neglected that way. On 16 and Pregnant we all saw how Jenelle rarely spent any time with her son and now that Barbara has taken the reigns and taken custody of him, he’s all messed up about who his “mommy” is. It’s so sad b/c he is completely unfazed by all the yelling and screaming going on in the house, his mom is only allowed to “babysit” him once a week and Barbara seems to only love him as a toy to dangle over Jenelle’s head. That whole family could really benefit from some serious therapy b/c unless something changes drastically, Jace is only going to end up just like Jenelle. And so the cycle continues…
Babies are extremely selfish. Feed me, change me, keep me warm, geesh it never stops! They look all googly eyed at you and you think that they are reaching deep into their souls? Nope. They are just glad that you fed them and bathed them..they haven’t figured out that unconditional thing yet. Mother’s are supposed to know about unconditional love.
I am still firm in my thought that Janelle has never known that kind of love. Actually, I think that Barbara is more selfish than Jace and Ive already explained how selfish I think babies are. Heeeh..
TC, Robin
@Robin, Something tells me you aren’t a mother, based on that statement alone. Maybe one day you will be and will find out what we’re talking about.
Unconditional love is because the child doesn’t judge you. Even neglectful parents rarely lose the love or hero worship of their children/babies. You think if an abusive mom only fed her baby once a day, that child would deny her hugs or to sit in her lap? That, my dear, is unconditional love. It’s very difficult to make a baby not love you..not that I’ve ever tried. Imagine how a child that is loved and cared for feels? Mommy can do no wrong! And if she does…guess who’s the first to forgive her? Her baby!
What I have done with my reproductive organs is nobody’s buisiness.
Unconditional love because the child doesn’t judge you? A 14 month old baby doesn’t have any clue how to judge. If an abusive mother only fed her baby once a day I am sure the babe would reach out to the mom. But that isn’t unconditional love. That is pure instinct.
If the same child was given more than just a meal a day and was provided with plenty of love and laughter from someone else, it isn’t impossible that the babe would take their unconditional love and haul ass.
Robin
I’m not sure how your organs came into the conversation, but you’re right..not my concern. (FYI, there are many ways to become a mother that don’t involve reproductive organs.) My point is that only someone who isn’t a mother would consider babies to be “extremely selfish” and always taking. As a mother, and I’m sure many would agree, we receive so much in return.
But, of course, knowledge usually only comes with experience.
And my point is that Jace is supposed to be selfish. He is a baby. He shouldn’t have to make his Mom feel good about herself. Babies shouldn’t have a job.
TC, Robin
I think people who imply babies are always ‘taking’ reveal themselves as the truly selfish ones. Then again, this is possibly why they aren’t parents, so perhaps they have done the world a favor.
Janelle neglects Jace..but he doesn’t love her any less, no matter how much more of Barbara he sees. Unconditional love, my friend.
What i’m confused about is the fact that Jo just gave K $600 for tuition, and now he wants her to move out of town? Really? Are either of them in the position to flush $600 down the toilet? All I know is if K agrees to move in with jo away from their hometown, she sure as shit better not be expected to pay his ass back that 6 hundo. Jo is disgusting. Ick. I’m sorry, but Janelle is still, and always will be, deserving of the treatment she gets from barb. Yeah, barb is a little psycho, and overly loud about shit, but I think anyone would be if put in her situation. She works 40hrs a week, and must raise Jace. If she didn’t take care of him, who the fuck would!!!??? NOT FUCKIN JANELLE! Then janelle wants to mosey-on into the house once or twice a week and pretend like she’s a mother and cares bout jace, stepping on barbs toes as she does it. No fucking way. I’d treat her like shit too. And btw- has Adam ever actually apologized for the fucked up txt he sent chelsea? If he did, he didn’t do it on camera, and needs to.
And 1 more thing. um… what’s the word on the twin with the deformed leg? I mean, why are leah and corey (and their fam) so lack-luster about it? I just mean, that’s some serious shit that I would be more than concerned about, and I wouldn’t rest until every test was run, every specialist was seen, etc. I’m not saying leah and corey don’t care bout their baby, but it seems like they are somewhat turning a blind eye. Maybe i missed something.
THANK YOU Tmurda!! You said exactly what I was thinking.
As far as Leah’s baby, I think they have to wait until she is a little older or something for a MRI???
Lisa’s right – they had to wait to get an MRI, but I believe they are going to address it in the next episode. I don’t think Corey and Leah are turning a blind eye, but they can’t really do much about it until they get the testing they need from the docs.
Eeek – this show is hard to watch! Thank you for the teriffic recap. LOVED the Fight Club reference, too. That “house” is scary.
Kailyn needs to have more charisma or a better personality for the amount of hand-outs she gets. Not that it’s her fault – scratch that – getting preggo IS her fault, but her pouty-face and attitude suck. Also, I agree it’s not the best situation for her and Jo to move in together, but what are her options? If she had another choice, wouldn’t she have done it in the first place? Also, to the person above, they mentioned several times that Jo’s aunt lives in Newark, so that’s where he wants them to move. They also mentioned it’s 2 hours away from where they live.
Leah and Corey – I read the US Magazine article. I agree, they are totally cute, but I agree with the above poster. Why do they appear to be playing down their daughter’s condition. The article said she has not been tested for childhood cancer (among other things). Um, wouldn’t you do every possible test ever to find out what the fuck’s wrong??
Chelsea – UGH. I can hear her now, “Adam is shy on camera.” You know, IF they make it to the reunion. There is nothing redeeming about the kid. Something’s wrong when I think Kieffer is a real steal compared to this douche. Does he even consider Chelsea his girlfriend? He’s never gone in for a kiss, doesn’t talk to her lovingly etc. I know that Chelsea automatically assumed moving in together meant they were back together, but I don’t think he sees it that way. Even though Randy is a wuss, I think h knows his daughter is not too bright. He wants to make sure she doesn’t pick up and move with Adam. She is the poster child for bad decisions. As long as she lives there (regardless of who lives with her), Randy can keep tabs and make sure she doesn’t drink rat poison or feed the baby eyelash remover.
Jenelle. Wow. Barbara couldn’t have possibly been this bad from day one. I mean, look at the way she treats Jace (nice). I’m sure Jenelle was just one of those out of control kids who wouldn’t listen to her mother, making Barbara go off the deep end. I mean, she has all the symptoms: daddy issues, moving to another state, controlling mom etc. My husband watched an episode and asked, “Why didn’t this girl get an abortion??” I’ve gotta agree.
TMurda, I live in PA and parts of NJ are right next to us and a lot of people live in NJ and work in PA or vice versa depending on the areas and taxes. For example, I live in Philly and to get into NJ takes 10-15 mins tops.
I also get the whole Jenelle/Barb thing. They hate each other. I get it. But I understand where both of them are coming from. Jenelle screws up, Barb yells and berates her, Jenelle feels that she’s not loved, Barb feels like Jenelle doesn’t give a crap about anything but herself. Sadly, Jace is the one losing out in the end.
Babies may have “unconditional love” for their mothers but they take a lot more then they give. It’s constant care and attention and yes, that smile and loving look once in a while is enough for most of us mothers to take that as the reward of unconditional love they have for us. Some, mainly younger ones, like Jenelle think that it’s all kisses and hugs. They don’t realize that 23 hours a day it’s YOU giving to the baby, not the other way around.
@Sardini-
Agree with you about Kailyn. I feel really bad for her but she’s extremely disrepectful to the Jo’s parents. You know this situation’s gotta be hard on them. Yet I love how Jo’s mom sweetly calls Kailyn “Kail,” even when she’s mad.
If someone took me in when my own mother wouldn’t, I’d go overboard with the good manners and friendliness. Just so they wouldn’t regret having me there.
I was actually quite annoyed that Jo told Kailyn that neither one of them could go back to the house. What in the hell did you do that got both of them kicked out immediately? I could understand Jo, but can’t Kailyn stay the night until she can call someone to stay somewhere else? I mean if she already had some where else to stay wouldn’t she being staying there already?
Chelsea is stupid. Adam just said some of the most hurtful things that I have ever seen in a text message and as soon as he comes back around you move him in? Buffoon.
I am so back and forth with Jenelle. You only get your son ONE day a week and you can’t be on time b/c you are laying up under some boy. I can understand why Barbara is frustrated with the girl. But when she did not want to give Jenelle the tax information for school I was floored. Don’t all parents want their children to grow up and better themselves? I wonder did Jenelle going to school make Barbara jealous?
Robin. I am a mom. And I totally see your point. Babies are selfish and need a lot from you. Yes, they love their moms unconditionally, but they can’t even smile at them for the first couple of months and the moms have to feed them, change them, lose sleep for them, etc. I hate it when people act like complaining at all about being a mom means you don’t love your kid.
I think mothers have a right to complain about the difficulties of childhood. It is a job after all, and requires so much of us as parents. However, I do not believe children are selfish. Selfishness, to me, is a conscious act one has of putting their needs and wants before all others. I do not think young children make this decision when they are crying out in hunger or for comfort.
Older children and adults can absolutely be selfish. Janelle is selfish. Barb is selfish. But little Jace, not so much.
*difficulties of motherhood*, I meant.
Sarcastire, I agree with you. I’m not sure you can call a baby “selfish”…there is a difference between selfish and helpless. A baby can not fend for itself. Also, a baby does not choose to be here; the parent chooses for the baby to be here and is therefore responsible for the needs of that child.
My issue with Barbara is that all she does to solve her issues with Jenelle is yell, insult and kick the girl out of the house. AND IT’S NOT FUCKING WORKING. AND I’M TIRED OF LISTENING TO IT. IT’S VERY LOUD. AND I HATE HER ACCENT.
Jenelle is a total fuck-up, I get it. But I think she has good intentions and Barbara isn’t guiding her properly. And if Jenelle’s done anything, she’s proven that she desperately needs guidance. Barbara has every reason to be angry and disappointed with her daughter, but get OVER it already, stop yelling and do something effective to make your daughter a competent mother.
OK OK..Let’s just agree that Motherhood is a job, one of the most important jobs in the world. And a baby doesn’t have a job. Let alone the job of making sure a mother feels good about motherhood or as a bargaining chip..
Alejandra, Could not agree more !!
TC, Robin
Yeah about Barb’s accent…does it sound like a New England accent to anyone else? I guess she might be a NC transplant
@HGHC, I don’t think her accent is regional. I would describe it as “mean”. ..she has a mean accent. Everytime she talks, all I recognize is mean. Not Southern, Northern,..just mean..
TC, Robin
Thank God for Ohio. If you have a selfish little parasite literally and figuratively sucking the life out of you, you can just duck over the border into Ohio and drop the little bundle of despair off. The law can’t touch you, and you’re back to living the good life!
Baby photo caption “Do i look like Rex Ryan? GET THAT FOOT OUTTA MY FACE!!!”
Barbara needs an intervention, a hug or something…she’s so angry! Granted her child is an idiot, but she had a hand in that like you’ve all said.Take some accountability! And Randy….*sigh*-parental FAIL.
Always, ALWAYS thank God for Ohio. For without Ohio, there would be no Alejandra:-)
I can’t believe no one has said anything about the fact that Chelsea wants to go to “beauty school” and her hair looks like rats live in it! If she pushes her horrible bangs aside one more time…
Seriously, she and Megan look like they should be on Jersey Shore with that hair!
No worries, I have that shit covered right here: http://www.tvgasm.com/recaps/teen-mom-2-the-saddest-monkey/?pag=6.
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@ arablaze, I totally agree about the Jersey Shore comment! Between the hair, the poof, the extreme fake tan, the heavy eyeliner, all the leopard or other random animal prints all over…she would be a perfect replacement for Sam…hahaha
regarding Barb’s accent, in the episode where Jenelle meets Keifer (spelling?), she introduces herself as originally being from PA. I’m from PA and I’ve never heard an accent like that though.
I’m from new england and i’ve definitely heard barb’s accent before!… its 100 •/• white trash from Massachusetts. Hands down! A my entire extended fam lives in pa and they have totally different accents than that.
I used to work with a woman from Philly. Her accent was just almost exactly like some of the way Barbara sounds when she’s
talkingyelling at Janelle!