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This week on Teen Mom…
Catelynn cleans the apartment in preparation for April’s return from Vegas. The last thing she wants to do is piss off a broke drunk. When April arrives home Catelynn is quick to ask what piece of shit souvenir she brought back for her. April responds by telling her about a t-shirt she saw that stated “If you think I’m a bitch, you should meet my mom.” They have a good laugh, but Catelynn ruins it by bringing up Carly. She tells April about how they called to wish Carly a “happy birthday”, this is April’s response:
I’d like to point out 2 things about this image 1. The awesome desktop wallpaper of April and Butch’s church wedding 2. the uncanny resemblance between April and Gollum.
Catelynn and Tyler discuss April’s apparent apathy regarding Carly and, again, they come to the conclusion that they must lower their expectations.
Maci is packing up for the big move to Nashville! She still hasn’t told Ryan. I am beginning to think that Maci doesn’t like confrontation. She talks with a friend while she counts a suspicious about cash. She reveals that she’s ready to “jump in” with Kyle, something she never did with Ryan. Wondering if that’s a euphemism for anal?
Farrah’s seriously considering moving in to her parents rental house unless she can come up with a “creative solution”. One of her “creative solutions” is to learn how to sew. I mean, Farrah doesn’t have any money and sewing does sound like something poor people do, right? However, Farrah has enough money to buy fabric and a sewing machine, albeit a cheap one. She begins her first garment while Sophia downs a $5 iced coffee. Unsurprisingly, it doesn’t go well.
Coffee is to babies as brain cells are to Farrah
Despite last’s weeks tantrum, Farrah still claims that she is getting along with her parents. She decides to tell them about the car scam. You know that she’s hoping they will just give her cash, but instead her dad tells her that Sophia should be entitled to Social Security considering her father has died. That means Farrah will have to reach out to her ex’s family for a DNA test. Uh oh, Farrah doesn’t like this.
Gary’s still at his mom’s, but he can’t stay much longer. I can imagine the food bill he racks up! But, that’s not the reason. Chris (oh yeah, you remember Gary’s step dad) and Gary just don’t get along and Carol can’t be stuck in the middle. There’s only room for one fat, freeloading male in Carol’s home and it’s reserved for the one who gives her dick and unless Gary’s up the challenge, he’s gotta go.
Since Amber failed her GED practice test, she’s studying for her HS diploma from home while Leah walks around in Amber’s stripper shoes.
Someone get this baby a pole!
Seriously, why doesn’t Amber consider stripping? She has the prerequisites: likes dancing, has bastard child, likes money, unnaturally tan…Anyways, Gary talks to Amber about staying with her while he finds a new place. She agrees, but only if he sleeps on the couch and pays. She’s done with him.
Although they aren’t together, Amber still orders him to bring her her purse. She needs to take her meds. NO SHIT! I think it’s about time Amber ups her dosage of whatever she’s taking cuz the bitch still be crazy. Gary obeys and with his usual charm, he passive aggressively brings up that Amber left a knife out within Leah’s reach. Listen Gary, Amber was just trying to do Leah a favor.
Meanwhile in Mich-here-we-go-igan, Tyler and Catelynn are working on a scarp book for Carly when Catelynn receives a call from Butch. He’s been moved from rehab to the county jail for violating the no contact order set between him and April. It turns out that, a year earlier, a drunk April called the cops during a fight with Butch, who was on parole, which resulted in the no contact order. This order was violated when the 2 talked while Butch was in rehab. You know poor Tyler is disappointed, but he remains stoic. I guess nothing can keep April away from her precious.
All of Maci’s friends are home from college and come by to see her off. She still hasn’t told Ryan about the move, ARE YOU KIDDING ME??!? Maci, have you considered writing him? By the time he deciphers the text you will already be in Nashville.
Amber is tense with Gary around, but at least he’s there to watch Leah while Amber goes to a martial arts class. How does she have money for this???? On the way there, she talks to cousin Krystal about the sitch. Gary’s gotta go. Hopefully, Amber can release some of that tension at her dry humping class.
uh…
Farrah visits her lawyer to figure out this whole Social Security thing. Maybe she can also get disability for being retarded. Sorry retards, I realize how insulting that was. Farrah’s lawyer tells her someone from her ex’s family has to give a DNA sample. He tries calling Derrick’s (Sophia’s dad) sister, Kassy, with no luck. It’s all up to Farrah. But, Farrah doesn’t want to be involved in their “drama”. The lawyer probes, but Farrah doesn’t give any more dets. Nice try, MTV. The lawyer essentially tells her to grow the fuck up and deal. Farrah sends Kassy a facebook message.
Free prize for the reader who catches the most errors!
April is pretty upset about Butch being in the slammer, especially since it’s her fault. Here I was thinking that April just fucked up the lives of those she birthed. April reads Catelynn a letter she wrote to the state in the hopes of helping Butch. She actually formed some pretty decent sentences. Butch calls and April laughs about how Nick says they are going to use a big truck to break into the jail and rescue him. Oh yes, nothing is cuter than a 4-year-old pining over his imprisoned father figure.
Remember kids, this looks good after being in the slammer
Farrah’s working extra hours, but it still isn’t enough. She really needs that Social Security. She decides to call Kassy who agrees to provide the DNA sample. Farrah takes Sophia to “Any Lab Test Now!” (WTF?) so they can get swabbed. Farrah doesn’t know the name of the test they are there for, but it doesn’t take the chick working the front desk long to figure out it’s a “paternity” test. Seriously Farrah, have you never seen Maury?
Finally, something Farrah is good at!
Amber returns from class to find Leah playing with a glass candle. She quickly chews out Gary b/c a glass candle is totally the same as a steak knife. She wants to know if Gary has found anything and shocker, he hasn’t. Amber wants to know what’s taking so long. He doesn’t need much, just wide doorways and easy access to the kitchen. But, Gary reveals that he’s looking for a 2-3 bedrooms b/c he’s getting roommates. Amber wants to know who and Gary isn’t saying (I bet that’s because it’s Little Debbie and Mrs. Fields). Amber does have a point, she’s entitled to know who her daughter will be exposed to; however, she totally overreacts. Gary doesn’t give in and, like a made for TV movie, Amber loses her shit and tells Gary to get out. Gary says he’s taking Leah, Amber doesn’t seem to put up much of a fight on that one. Poor fat Gary.
Gary runs to his friend Jordan or “toxic fat friend” as Flipit put it. I just noticed that he’s wearing a wedding ring, WTF?!? To make matters even worse, he gives Gary good advice. I so wanted to hate this guy! He tells Gary that Amber brings him down and it isn’t healthy, both true. Gary isn’t hearing it. He wants his family and a ham sandwich.
Maybe they are friends because they both look like fat creepy adult babies?
Farrah hasn’t heard from the lab and then she gets the call, looks like this Kassy bitch was a no show.
Maci says goodbye to her parents and heads over to say her good byes to Ryan. AWKWARD. Ryan calls Maci a “shitty person” and selfish. What a dick.
Gary calls Amber to apologize and weasel his way back in to the apartment. She agrees to let him let him back for a little longer, but he better mind his “Ps and Qs”. He returns to the apartment where Amber proceeds to tell him that he’s only there b/c she pitys him, OUCH! I guess he only has eyes for Amber’s domestic abuse.
Catelynn goes with April to talk to a lawyer about Butch. Looks like the lawyer can’t help without $1,500. So in jail Butch shall remain. Man, it must suck to be poor.
Maci arrives in Nashville and Kyle helps assemble Bentley’s crib. Maci reveals that she’s not at all worried about losing Bentley to Ryan since he’s as dumb as a box of rocks and she can prove it!
Farrah announces that she is going to cook dinner. Someone call the fire department. She begins by putting something frozen in a pot and then “making sauce” aka opening a jar. I hope she didn’t pay too much for that culinary degree.
The classic french “le scissors” technique
Sure enough, the stove bursts into flames. Quick, Farrah! Throw Sophia on there to smother that fire!
Farrah’s lawyer calls and she fills him in. Farrah wants the court to make Kassy do the test. Uh, this is America, Farrah, people have rights! He mentions something about offering Kassy visitation rights. It sounds like Farrah has kept Sophia from Derrick’s family this whole time. No wonder Kassy was a no show. Again, Farrah get’s all “poor me” with the lawyer and the lawyer tells her to shut the fuck up. Let’s hope some of this is sinking in.
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Upon watching the teen mom/dad’s parents interact with them, I realized how these geniuses ended up in this position. Holy bad parenting batman. These kids never had a chance (Maci being the lone exception).
I love that the lawyer is totally leading Farrah on because he knows Sophia is not even eligible for ss survivors benefits. The deceased person had to have earned enough work credits to be insured by ss (equal to 10 years of work) and a teen wouldn’t have that kind of work history. Also, she would have had to apply within 6 months of the death. My job is to help people apply for ss benefits, so I know it’s all bogus. It’s all for show…she’s flat-out not eligible.
Thank you for a great recap.I guess my show cut off because I never saw Farrah cook that last meal of … well whatever it was. Nor did I hear the conversation with her lawyer. These babies don’t have much of a chance.
Everyone is worried about the Move to Nashville but two hours people… it isn’t the moon.
And if Gary and Idjit don’t seperate the state child protective services should step in and remove the parents. Leah would be better off alone.
I can’t wait to read your recaps after every teen mom episode. Everything is hilariously true! I totally agree with the statement Leah would be better off alone however if I had to make a choice on who would be better for her and I can’t believe I’m saying this but I have to go with Gary.The only reason I say this is because I have a sneaky suspicion when the cameras aren’t rolling Amber is much more abusive to Leah than she is letting us see. One more thing Farrah keeps calling the county prosecutor her lawyer he is not her lawyer she just goes to him to mooch free advice. God I hate her!!
Farrah needs adult supervision. Not only does she get ripped off money-wise, but now she believes a lawyer and doesn’t bother to check on anything the lawyer told her about social security. Next she’ll be buying bridges and swampland. How did she ever get out of high school?
And please someone book a fight between Amber the tan still fat stripper and either Tonya Harding or perhaps Danny Bonaduce. What a dream match, who’s with me?
Hopefully he worked a total of 1.5 yrs in the previous 3 yrs before his death. This would give him enough credit’s to allow Sofia to recieve benefit’s.
Although it is kind of sad that Farrah didn’t think enough of him to put his name on her daughter’s birth certificate.It is only now,when she needs the $ that she consider’s him to be Sofia’s father.
TC,Robin
@trinahuntley I agree. For all his faults, not only is Gary not openly hostile to the child, but appears to sincerely care for her, and throughout the show, there have been indications that he has the potential to grow up to be average.
That’s not meant as an insult. It’s called average for a reason, and it’s called kids having kids for a reason. Didn’t I say the same thing last week? Maybe I just dreamed I did.
@Anne McGill An Amber vs Danny Bonaduce Krav Maga fight would be awesome! Sadly, it’d probably be on pay-per-view, and…
@Nerdia You are absolutely correct. Being poor does totally suck.
@Kelli I was thinking the same thing! What surprised me is that Farrah’s stepfather seemed completely unaware of it.
Of course the lawyer is not going to mention it. Business is business, but since Debra and Michael would be PAYING the lawyer, they’d at least have checked the rules before sending her off to make an appointment!
@Robinez My understanding is that as with the decision to keep the baby, she was obeying Debra’s orders.
A while back, they did another Teen Mom, with another group of girls, and several of them also featured grandmothers who didn’t seem to think through the whole thing of how keeping the baby would impact THEM, and the family as a whole.
The girls are kids, but the grandmothers don’t have that excuse.
With Farrah’s situation, we haven’t really seen any indication that the babydaddy’s family has any interest in Sophia.
I would have thought that especially since they’d lost their son, that his daughter would have some importance to them, regardless of what they thought of the babymama.
In fact, in light of the whole Debra arrest with the violence and kitchen knives thing in the papers, I would have expected it would be THEY who would be going to see lawyers and demanding DNA tests, with the goal of rescuing Sophia!
ARrrgh! What I really hate is that this reality show has too damn much reality in it!
Finished reading..Great recap Nerdia.You always do a good job
Why in the world do people call the cops when they get into an argument with the spouse? I mean,I can see it if they are comming at you with a butcher knife but for goodness sakes too many people call the cops and use them as their own security to remove the other person. I don’t even call my own mother when I get into an argument with the Mr. So,I have no sympathy for April. If you don’t want someone in your buisiness then don’t put them there. She used the system to get back at Butch at one time. Now the system is doing it’s job. They are taking her word that she truly needed that PO. She asked them to protect her and they are. The system is too backed up because of idiot’s like her. That drunken 911 call is comming back to haunt her.
Farrah doesn’t want to deal with the father’s family drama? I can’t even comment…
@ trinahuntley – Completely agree about Amber and Leah. If Amber is this violent/angry on camera one can only imagine what she is like when the cameras are off. Gary though a sloth does not seem like he has violent tendencies as opposed to the tanned silverback Amber. If I were Gary’s shoes I would not trust Amber to be alone with Leah. Her self proclaimed strict parenting style and whipping Leah back into shape would frighten me as a father.
The other thing that strikes me about Amber is that she has zero self awareness. She thinks she is a gift from God. No doubt Gary has a lot of maturing to do but it seems to be as though Amber thinks she has it all figured out. However, she is violent (verbally and physically), at times not concerned about her daughter’s safety, and unintelligent et al.
Finally, how the fck does she pay for her tanning, her boxing lessons, her apartment, clothes/food for Leah and herself? Does she work?
@Nick I’m assuming that without the $ from the show, all of them would be in even worse straits than they are now.
It seems like Maci is the only one who has saved hers up for particular purposes – again I’m making an assumption, that her show money is how it was possible for her to go to school and get the apartment in Nashville.
The reason Caitlyn’s mom didn’t even bring back a cheap Vegas souveniour is because SHE NEVER LEFT THE STATE OF MICHIGAN! It was probably one of her crackhead friends she was staying with the whole week who was wearing the T-shirt she was talking about!! And to prove my point, how did she afford going to Vegas but can’t afford to pay a lawyer $1500 to get Papa Meth out of jail?
@Nerdia just wanted to let you know this was the BEST RECAP TO DATE! Loved it. LMAO. Your humor truly shined through on this one. I think that if these people are willing to have their lives taped for national tv then they are all free game. All the snarky comments were right on the money, again wonderful recap. Keep up the good work!
@ Bahu Rupiya – Good point, that’s exactly where she is getting her money. Anyone have any idea if Gary gets paid for his role on the show?
These last few posts are my first on this site and it is because of my utter hatred for Amber, specifically the way she treats her daughter and Gary (I am not saying he is without fault). I think she is an unfit Mother and Leah should be removed from her care immediately. Man o Man does she aggravate me!
Out of all the mothers on the show meth mom is the worst. Catelynn desperately wants her mother’s love again and her mother is unwilling to give in. Based on their environment Tyler and Catelynn made the right choice in giving that child up.
Maci should have told Ryan sooner that she was leaving instead of waiting until she was actually about to get on the road and leave. For that she was a shitty person. But it seems Maci does have her head on straight and is attempting to achieve the same goals she had before she had Bentley. I believe she had a pretty good support system, and while it will be hard she seems determined to make it work.
Farrah is immature and stupid. She also thinks that everyone should do everything she says but does not follow what other people tell her to do. @ Bahu Rupiya, I thought the same thing about the family wanting to be involved with Sophia seeing as they lost their son.
I wanted to hate toxic fat friend also, but he made so many valid points that I had to cheer him on while he talked to Gary. There’s no way social services can watch the abuse that takes place in the house and think that Leah is safe there. I wouldn’t be surprised if they came and told them that Leah can no longer live with amber…
to Classy Drunk— No, Maci could NOT tell Ryan she was moving before hand or he would have started custody proceedings out of spite just to keep her from moving! And Maci knows this! Ryan is a loser, he has NO job, he does not intend to get a job, yet he still wants to live with Mom and Dad and go to parties and restaurants with THEIR money. Ryan made the comment a couple of weeks ago that by the time Bentley is 18, he would have paid in $80,000 in child support — WRONG — his PARENTS will have paid in $80,000!
to Issacs Mamma — I too could not understand how April could afford to go to Vegas, but can’t afford to pay Meth Daddy’s lawyer. And then she has to whine about not having the money!
re: Gamber — Gary is just such a wuss that it has just become laughable now how Amber tells him to jump and he asks how high.
Awesome recap!!! Laughed the whole time which given the material you had to work with was hard to pull off.
Classy I have to agree with you. Meth mom is the WORST. I feel like I can smell her through the TV screen. You just know she smells of old cigarette butts and dirt. Her skin is the color of cement. I don’t think I have ever seen someone on reality tv that looks that unhealthy. Poor poor Catelynn. She seems like such a good kid. Can’t the people that adopted Carly adopt Catelynn too??
To me Amber and Gary are as bad as each other. Gary is such a lazy slug. Act like a man and get your daughter out of that situation. You have it on TAPE to prove your case.
Oh Farrah I was rooting for you this season but you went off the rails the last two episodes. She is back to being the Farrah we all know and love from Season One.
I kind of get Maci not telling Ryan until the last minute. I don’t think it was right but in her mind I’m sure she doesn’t think she owes Ryan anything after the way he treated her and Bentley over the last two years. It was definitely a passive aggressive move on her end.
Amber has is an epic fail as a mother, partner, and a human being.
@Nick I agree…she has no self awareness at all.
Need a little help.Ok so when Caitlyn’s mom arrives home and they are talking about if Caitylyn had any parties and Caitlyn says “oh yeah mom we had tons of parties can’t you tell”. Her mom then says “did you save me any (…..)?” I TIVO’d this episode and kept rewinding to figure out exactly what she asked her but I could not understand what she said. Does anyone else out there know?
@Lisa, I assumed that he’d already started the proceedings and that’s why Maci was so quick to move. I thought it was something along the lines of in 14 days she would not longer be able to move out of Chattanooga.
classy drunk — I thought the lawyer told Ryan that once he starts proceedings, Maci cannot move……..?……. But I’ve never been in a custody battle, so I could be wrong.
@Lisa, I have been known to have been wrong a time or two in my life also. This could be one of those times.
Has anyone ever seen toys for Leah in Amber and Gary’s apartment? I’m pretty sure I never have. All I see is dirty laundry and shit piled on the floor. No wonder she’s always playing with things she shouldn’t be. I also have never see Amber do anything besides yell at her daughter either. Maybe she should get her lazy self out of bed and interact with her daughter.
@Issac, Amber can’t interact with Leah because she’s practicing her martial arts and tanning.
@classy drunk – and don’t forget, Amber is also studying for her GED practice tests. And having girls nights out. And going on vacation. And planning weddings. And breaking up with Gary which necessitates a girls night out. And then making up with Gary. And planning weddings. And breaking up….well, you get the idea.
With Ambers packed social schedule its a wonder she is able to find the time to feed Leah. Although who wants to bet that Leahs diet mainly consists of frenchfries she finds under the couch cushions?
@ ohralphie–LMAO
@ classy drunk, ohralphie, and Isaacsmamma – thank you for pointing out additional shtty Amber behavior. The only time Leah is smiling is when Gary is around. I felt so bad for the poor girl when she went to the window to watch Gary get in his car and drive off. Then I became concerned that a baby was staring directly at an open window! I did not see child bars either. I really hope someone close to Amber or Gary is watching this show and is appalled at her behavior and subsequently alerts the proper authorities.
Oh and if anyone is interested – I want to bet that Leah graduates high schoool before Amber….Anyone interested???
that would be high school not schoool. Damn Amber is messing with my brain!
@classy drunk — Ryan just irritates me so bad. Probably because I am TERRIFIED that my kids will want to leach off of me and be lazy bums just like him. (and their Dad will let them).
and because Ryan thinks he is God’s gift to the female race.
Okay, that opening pic of April scares me – could you imagine running into her in the parking lot at wal-mart late at night? She wouldn’t have to say a word, I’d just open my wallet and hand her my money. I feel so sorry for Catelyn and am so glad they gave that baby up for adoption. And Leah just breaks my heart – she doesn’t stand a chance in hell with those two.
Is it just me or does this show get more and more depressing? Maybe it’s because the babies are getting older? They are starting to be aware of their parents. Poor Leah!
@Nick – I agree, I was so sad for Leah as she watched her daddy leaving. @ohralphie – I was thinking the same thing about Leah’s diet. Notice when Gary and Leah came home, Amber was eating and didn’t worry or ask about Leah and if she ate. I’m a mom and I am constantly sharing my meals with my kids. Amber looks like she’d try to knife Leah if she came close to her dinner.
I think Gary is an assclown myself, but you can tell he loves Leah and wants to remain an intact family. They are just too dysfunctional to ever work. Amber wanted Gary when he was going to leave her for Walmart girl. Now, not so much. Gary wants Amber because she doesn’t care about him anymore. Amber doesn’t respect Gary – that is hard to overcome. It is horrible because of an innocent child stuck in the middle. They suck!
Farrah is harder for me – she is so rude. It’s hard for me to feel too sorry for her when she not only brings it on herself – she’s bit#@y on top of it.
I am torn about Maci. I get it is only 2 hours away. I get that Ryan is a douche who never cared until his parents made him. But, I have moved for love before and it’s always a huge expense. The move there and if it doesn’t work out, the move back. I also think it’s completely different with Bentley involved. I would make Kyle move.
ok first of all, gary needs to get out of this before she kills him and cooks his body…secondly, farrah needs to just give her child to her parents, thirdly, poor butch, fourthly, Ryan needs to seriously die
well said, Ariana Marie, well said
@sunshine It’s so not just you. I think the babies getting older is a big part of it, in combination with things getting worse and not better for most of them, and especially if you’re a little older, you’ve heard all those songs and know they don’t end well.
@classy drunk As I understood it, once any legal proceedings had reached a certain point, Maci would not have been able to move. So she was anxious to do it before that happened.
Ryan seems pretty locked into the view that while he has no interest in parenting – as in getting a job and supporting his son – and hasn’t ever been all that into Maci, he is nevertheless displeased that she has a boyfriend, much in the same way it displeases him that she has a job, that she goes to school, etc. I get the sense that he sees Maci doing these things motivated by a desire to create an unfavorable perception of him, by contrast.
Kind of like if a country does something awful, you’ll always see some citizens that are angry at media outlets that report it, and accuse the reporters of trying to “make the country look bad.”
I guess Maci is a good reminder that we all grow up in spots.
In so many ways she’s mature beyond her years, but had she been a little older and more worldly-wise when she had Bentley, I think she would either have not mentioned the pregnancy to Ryan, or encouraged him to sign off on his parental rights very early on, when it became apparent that he had no interest in the baby, and today seems to value him only as a sort of prop that he believes makes him more attractive to his new girlfriend. Maybe somebody told him a baby is a chick magnet.
I predict that whatever happens with Kyle, in a few more years, Maci will learn the difference between a father and an incidental sperm donor.
LOL Look how much I’m ranting on – about the Teen Mom in the GOOD situation!
The others are just too depressing to contemplate. I guess among them, the most positive outcome we can hope for is that Tyler and Catelynn will by some miracle be able to get themselves out of town and into school and on the road to better lives…
Maci is being super selfish right now. She has a baby to think about. She should be less worried about her boyfriend and more concerned with providing her baby with the most stable environment. And moving him two hours away from his grandparents, paternal and maternal, and his father so she can be with her boyfriend of two seconds is ridiculous.
I’ve had lip glosses longer then their relationship. Its a shame.
Ladidadi you and I are in definite agreement on this one. As I said last week, my husband and I did a long distance relationship for 2 years that was over 4 hours distance. Maci should not move her and her child away from everyone and I think she is rushing to avoid being told she can’t later on. Yes Ryan has sucked so far, but as the mother she shouldn’t make it even harder for him if he ever matures. Even only a weekly visit with Ryan and his parents will make a difference in the child’s life. I’ll be honest, I actually don’t even believe that Maci should be dating at all right now, even if Ryan is. As the custodial parent, and by choosing to have the baby verses giving it up for adoption, she should put her needs on the back burner until Bentley is a bit older. He doesn’t need “uncles” coming in and out of his life. And I know a lot of people are going to disagree, but I think this move makes her the worst of the bunch, because she is the only one who came from a decent home and knows better. Her mistake will be due solely to selfish lust not simply because she is just an idiot.
Chemgal: it is a shame because I thought she had the most sense out of the bunch. But even her comment to Ryan like “o I guess you”ll see him when I want you to see him” or something like that just shows her first priority right now isn’t her son. If Kyle was that serious and into her, he would move to her town
I agree with Chemgal and Ladida about Maci. I think she’s being extremely selfish. She can protest all she wants, but she is moving away to be with Kyle. Taking Bentley away from his whole family is irresponsible. And I definitely think she’s also doing it out of spite towards Ryan. Which is why she made that comment.
I really despise Farrah. I think she’s stupid and bitchy. A bad combination. I think she always think she’s owed something. Based on the fact that she wants the money from the dad’s family, but didn’t want to talk to them.
LOL @ Classy Drunk. I only admit to having been wrong once or twice before too!
@Jayem, I’m wondering if his family knows she may not be eligible for ss and are fearful she’ll come after them for money. The only reason I know of that women don’t put the father’s name on the birth certificate is that in order to get WIC I have been told you have to say you don’t know who the father is. A friend from high school was told not to put the dad’s name on her first son’s birth certificate in order to be eligible. They wound up getting married and have been together over 15 years and had 3 more kids. The son just recently realized his dad’s name is not on his birth certificate AND even more interesting, have just realized his last name isn’t really, legally the same as the rest of the family! They have no idea how this was allowed during kindergarten screening. Karma is kind of kicking them in the butt. They tried to work the system to save money and now they have had to pay lawyers to have the dad ADOPT his own son!
I. Am. Speechless. (I love the recap, btw!)
Why hasn’t CPS come and removed Leah from BOTH /psycho/violent/pig-faced Amber and obese (is he getting bigger?)/pathetic/low self-esteemed Gary??? How much more emotional abuse does Leah have to witness? In Gary’s defense, he shows Leah much more love and affection than that piece of s**t so called mother of hers. Ever notice that Amber rarely holds Leah or show her any type of affection? How sick is it that the only way Leah gets any sort of positive attention is when she has on her mother’s cheap stripper shoes? On the preview of next week, it looks like she puts her martial arts to work and punches Gary in the face. What do you wager that Leah is there watching the whole thing? Sad.
I agree that Maci’s meth mom wasn’t in Vegas! She was tweaking for a week. With a mother like that, it’s a wonder how Maci turned out to be such a good kid.
I meant CATELYN’S MOM-not MACI’S MOM!!!
I empathize with Gary. Amber is much too violent with him and his hands are tied. What can he do besides endure the abuse? I am 6’3 210 lbs and unfortunately had an ex GF who used to get violent with me during our drunk arguments. Obviously my response was to do nothing just like Gary’s. Amber knows Gary will do nothing so she can be violent and expect no reaction. As a 6’3 210lb male Ive been hit by a girl before and it is one of the more frustrating things to endure.
to Ladidadi and Chemgal: Yeah, Ryan cared SO MUCH about his son that he refused to help out financially until he was MADE to, and he cared SO MUCH about his son that he refuses to GET A JOB and take some of the financial support burden away from his parents!
@Lisa, as a parent it is part of your job to always keep the door open to the other parent unless their is physical, sexual or emotional abuse. Just because Ryan was selfish, does not allow Maci to be. Being a parent is too important to be playing game of tit for tat. Maci was stupid enough to sleep with, get pregnant by and not put up for adoption the baby she had with Ryan. As a result, it is now her responsibility to do everything she can to 1)make Ryan live up to his role and 2) make sure if and when he is interested in being a parent anyway he is able that she allows it and 3) she makes it just as easy for Bentley’s extended family from Ryan’s side have a relationship with him. She might find it difficult and sometime almost impossible to put Bentley’s need to have his father and his family in his life, but I guarantee she will not regret it. If she doesn’t, she will have to deal with all the emotional and behavioral fallout when Bentley is a teenager and it is too late to remake the choices she made to put her own interests first. No matter how much people want people to believe that happy mommy = happy baby that is too simplistic of a life plan. Yes, happy children are usually the result of a mom that has a well balanced life. However, children by design are very selfish creatures, they need to be to get what they need to survive. Bentley is not going to care that Maci felt the need to make a hormonal decision and move him away from all of his family. Her move will also put all further choices at risk. Suppose it doesn’t work out? Will she decide to stay there simply to avoid moving back and risking not being able to move the next time some hottie catches her eye? Will she be too immature to admit she made a mistake? My opinion of Maci’s stupidity and bad parenting choices has nothing to do with comparing her on a scale with Ryan. Its stupid, selfish and bad all on its own accord.
Absolutely right, chemgal. When my husband and I divorced I had to put aside my feelings for my kids future well being and I’ve certainly never regretted that. It was very difficult at the time but the long term outcome was worth it because they have a great relationship with their dad. Also, I think it was beneficial for me and helped me to move forward.
BTW, Amber is a waste of space.
I am also torn about Maci’s decision. I think it’s unfair to 100% assume the relationship with Kyle won’t last and that she’s an idiot and is moving people in and out of Bentley’s life. That may or may not be true. Because you’ve had a lip gloss that lasted longer than the relationship she’s currently in… means nothing. Sometimes you just know, sometimes you don’t.
I agree with certain points that perhaps moving Bentley two hours away from the grandparents and Ryan may not be the best decision but I don’t agree that she doesn’t have the right to date because she needs to put all of her needs aside for Bentley. So far she’s proven that she can juggle everything responsibly and until she shows otherwise, I’m not sure I see the reason for her drop her entire life.
At least in her eyes, I think she’s hoping this move with be for a stable family with Bentley and Kyle. I’d like to remain optimistic and hope it works out… although I know this show makes it hard to be optimistic about anything. lol
I agree with you Chemgal most of the time, but I’m not sure she was stupid for getting pregnant and then not giving the baby up for adoption. She made a mistake… and she took responsibility for it… and so far, I think she’s not done such a terrible job.
I have no experience with being a mom so maybe my position on the matter would change when that happens, but right now I’m way too selfish to have one and I’d hope that when I do have one, as much as they are the priority in my life, I don’t give up my life!
@lindaw – how wonderful for you! and I bet when your kids themselves become parents they will fully realize what you did and appreciate it. My best friends husband was an awful husband and father. At times, I could never understand why she seemed to take the blame for him. When he wouldn’t show up for visits, she would say “maybe I gave him the wrong time” and she always made excuses for him. There were times when he would ask for the kids last minute for holidays and she would let them go and be all by herself, or come to a friends house for the day. He never paid unless she chased him yet always had money to take his new family on trips to Europe. She went without so that she could try to give the kids the items and experiences she could on her salary. They were kids and of course they were mad at her and once in a while questioned when they were teenagers where all the money from dad went – hinting she was hiding it or using it for herself. The two older ones went to college on scholarships and it wasn’t until the youngest was applying for financial aid that they all became aware of what an ass their father was. She was upset that they ever had to know how little regard their father had for them! Even then, her thoughts were with her kids hearts. Once that was out, they made the choice to limit all contact with their father and she has no guilt and they don’t resent her for turning them against him even though she could have. I see my bil and mil trying to turn my nieces against my former sil and it has come back to bite them in the ass. I always try to pass on my bff’s advice to remember its okay to hate and fight with your ex, its not okay to fight and hate your child’s other parent.
@holla – I hope I didn’t imply I thought she was stupid for getting pregnant and keeping the baby. I think she’s stupid if she thinks she’s entitled to the same life as someone who isn’t responsible for a child now.
I also think she has been able to juggle dating and her own wants because her parents and friends are there to help her. If Kyle really was the one, and I do hope for her and Bentley’s sake he is, he should move to be with her. I can’t imagine he currently is employed in such a position that moving would be a huge sacrifice. Bentley was the only kid that I wasn’t depressed for and was the shining light in this mess of a show and it was mostly because Maci had such a strong support system.
One point about Maci’s decision that I do understand (having lived in the area for a long time) is that the only university in Chattanooga (UTC) doesn’t even offer the major that she wants to study (at least that I could find on the website), which I remember from her interview at MTSU was journalism. MTSU is a pretty strong program with a full j-school. Not being able to leave Chattanooga until Bentley turns 18, which is what Ryan threatened her with would put a full end to that dream.
And I just have to say: Hey, show! Murfreesboro ISN’T Nashville! It’s close to it, but it’s not. Stop pretending.
@chemgal- I see where you’re coming from. I’m team Maci so sometimes I get a little too defensive! Ha. She’s the only good one (aside from Caitlins likeability) so I latched on tightly to the positive
Hollagirl: it may not mean anything to you but it means something to me and I am entitled to my opinion. I’ve already said I like Maci. She is my favorite but I think it is selfish for her to move her kid two hours away from the kids family. Sometimes you do know but when you had a kid, you owe it to your child to vet potential partners better. When a single mom rushes into relationships she may end up with a broken heart. At worst she may end up with anpredator who targeted her for her kid.
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Ladidada- you’re more than welcome to your own opinion and more than entitled to post it. I was just expressing my opinion in regards to your lip gloss statement- which is that I simply think that the longevity of a relationship and a lip gloss have nothing in common… But kudos to you for maintaining your lip glosses! Mine always manage to find themselves at the bottom of the washer :/
*a predator. She doesn’t have to stop her life or its does not mean she cant date, but why would she move somewhere without family support to be with a guy who easily could have moved to her area.
Hollagirl: it’s a saying. I don’t literally have lip glosses that long. It’s just another way of saying things the relationship isn’t long enough to enter into such decisions. Different regions different sayings. *shrugs*
Ladidadi- just trying to lighten it up. I respect your opinions and see where you’re coming from and I just choose to disagree on a few… That’s all. not here to start something. Happy commenting!
holla: yes that’s fine. I appreciate different opinions. I was responding to your initial that my lip gloss comment means nothing. No biggie. My phrase probaly got lost in translation. It happens. Happy commenting to you too!
I agree that Amber has a lot of growing up poor Leahi feel so sorry for her. I can not even imagine what kind of a life she will have. I hope Gary has some sense and goes after custody of his daughter. And as for Farrah she is extremely spoiled rotten.Only thinks about herself. Just remember Farrah you only have Mother and your granddaughter has only one Grandmother you need to work through your problems with your Mother and get on with your lives But do not let your Sophia suffer you can see her Grandmother loves her very much.
@Ladidadi and Hollagirl2 – I’ve had lip gloss that’s lasted longer than your disagreement!
@Chemagl- HAHA what argument?
me and ladidadi are like BFFs! amirite @La??!
T don’t like lip gloss……… too sticky.
i know it’s been said before, but i find it at once heartbreaking and encouraging that out of all of these sets of moms, catelynn and tyler seem to be the ones most capable of making it. i’ve been to algonac michigan. there isn’t much there for them, so hopefully they will finish school, go to college and when they’re ready, start a beautiful family of their own. which i know will always include carly, even if more in their hearts than in a physical sense. as for maci, i do agree that its wrong to assume her relationship will fail, she made the right choice by not having kyle move in with her, and if any of you have been watching from the beginning as i have, moving to nashville was always a dream of hers, not just something that sprung up as soon as she reconnected with kyle. so for her, i will give her the benefit of the doubt and hope it all works out, b/c i think she really is a great mom.
@Chemgal and @hollagirl total bffs
Though I may switch to chapstick from now on.
I saw somewhere they are startingus with a newgroup of 16 y/o and pregnants soon. One baby at a time like before.I feel the story of the current mom and babies has played out. We will forever wonder how badly the life of little Leah turned out and if Amber evergets a degree in anything. Or if Farrah will ever get a clue. Theothers will be okay…. but I worry about these two.
I think this season will be the 3rd season of 16 and pregnant. I would not want to lose all the moms, but introducing some new moms would be good to see different experiences.
I never saw season 1. What happened to those moms and babies?
These girls are from season one. There were about 5 or 6 more, but I guess we’ll never know about them. The season two mothers seem to have been lost in the shuffle also as we are invested in the girls we have now.
With 2 toddlers of my own, I hate to judge other moms but…
Amber is just the worst. Does she ever get down on the floor and actully play with Leah?
And doesn’t she know that babies understand words long before they’re able to talk? She’s an idiot to think her daughter isn’t being affected by the constant yelling and cursing.
Is it too late for Dawn the adoption lady to step in? Because perhaps Teresa and Brandon are in the market for a sister for Carly…
Maci moving to Murfreesboro (not Nashville), where the university is located, for the summer, isn’t that big of a deal. Chattanoonga is less than 200 miles from M’boro and you can drive it in 90 minutes or less. She’s there for the summer, as she has said many times on the show. I grew up in Nashville, and the distance is not that long at all.
In Tennessee, once you start any kind of custody proceedings for a minor child, the child can’t be taken more than 100 miles from the primary custodial home (if I remember correctly) by either parent until the case is resolved. My friend’s ex-husband moved from Nashville to Memphis and they had to go to court to redo the custody arrangement for visitation. My friend had to get special permission from the court to take the kid to his baseball tournament, because it was 106 miles from the residence.
And as far as making someone be a parent to their child, it doesn’t work. I know. I was the child. But Mom was both, so I never missed out on anything.
Amber is a self absorbed, sadistic, psychotic wanna be TV star. I seriously hope that the footage from this show will cause him to get sole custody. What a horrible influence she is….she is a terrible and evil person.
@ StateofShock – I completely agree. I saw a deranged, out of control, abusive woman who should not have unsupervised visits with her daughter. If she behaves like that when the cameras are rolling imagine what she is doing when they are not. God help poor Leah.
Nick and State totally agree. After this weeks episode I could not pick my mouth up off the floor. Amber is the biggest piece of shit and she has made Gary come off looking almost Saintly. I hope her behavior has some serious consequenses. I am still in shock at how Gary was able to remain so calm and keep it together while being punched, slapped and kicked while carrying a tv down some stairs. Crazy!
Oh and Nerdia recap was excellent and hillarious! Agreed with previous commenter, best to date. Sorry so late to comment, with work and travel lately, tvgasm has been getting neglected, which I am not happy about
Why is Leah always crying when she’s with Amber and always so calm around Gary?
@ classy probably because all Amber does is yell, curse and throw her in the crib and Gary actually picks her up and gives her affection.
Amber is being investigated for assault. The latest episode took a serious disturbing turn. But I’ll wait recap to comment.
I saw that last episode….caught on tape is all i can say…psycho woman….Kudo’s to Gary for NOT losing his cool….poor baby Leah.
Yes, it really does suck to be poor.
Chapstick? I recommend Carmex–it’s the best.
you know what? I’m allergic to chaptsick! How messed is that? It makes my lips peels more! i havent gotten around to watching the newest teen mom yet but i have it recorded. for some reason im dreading watching it. I think every episode just gets more and more depressing.
I couldn’t wait for the next recap to comment on this past episode because I was just SO DISTURBED by it. Amber is SO FULL OF SHIT when she was talking to her friends and saying “I was just so SCARED that’s why I let Gary take Leah” (of course I’m paraphrasing). She did not show an ounce of emotion when Gary came to take Leah. She did not fight for her child to stay with her. She did not cry the tears you’d think a mother would cry at the thought of someone taking her baby away. She really doesn’t seem to have any feelings of love or attachment for her daughter at all. I feel so so so terrible for baby Leah.
@kdognatl “(Amber) as made Gary come off looking almost Saintly…”
I know, right?
Here’s why I’ve consistently defended poor, bumbling Gary, online and off, since Season 1 of 16 and Pregnant:
There was this scene, a little arclet really, where he spent $400 on a video game doodleding, and was subsequently reprimanded, and reminded that any four hundred dollarses that come his way must henceforth be spent on things like diapers and doctors.
And I know, editing, blah blah, but there was this shot of him just sitting there, and call it the eyerollable wishful imaginings of a dotty old lady, but you could just see – or I could, anyway, that proverbial “growing up overnight” process take hold, and there was something so real and poignant about it – he picked up the phone and called Wal-Mart to ask about the procedure for returning the game.
That is why I have continued to insist that for all his faults – and bearing in mind that growing up, overnight or not, is something that happens in spots, not all at one gulp – that I believe Gary will grow up to be a responsible and decent, if average man, a good father in the way that all decent, responsible, and average men are good fathers.
He loves his daughter, he does take responsibility for her, inasmuch as he is capable of doing, he tries to care for her, though he is pitifully lacking in skills and aptitude for it.
Though he does it awkwardly, and fumbles and stumbles all over the place, I get the sense that in his heart, she does come first, he does get that it is about her welfare now, as opposed to his preference.
I don’t think that Amber’s illness – and let’s face it, Amber is a very sick girl – is something that he can understand, certainly not something that it will be easy for him to accept, he has tried to love her in ways that he is not yet grown-up enough to love anybody, and in ways that you can’t really love a sick person.
I will probably be hung out to dry for mentioning them in the same breath, but in a lot of ways, I have the same hopes for Gary that I do for Maci – I hope that they will both find True Love with The Right Person, who will, if they are the Right Person, be a stable and loving parent to their babies.
That’s not just about being old-fashioned, it is pretty universally agreed that having 2 parents who love them and love each other gives kids a good start in life, and is good for them generally.
It’s no guarantee that they will make good grades and get good jobs and enjoy happy, productive lives and successful, loving relationships, but generally speaking, it ups their chances.
That is not to take anything away from the heroic single moms whose happy, healthy, productive, etc children are their crowning achievement, and living proof that It Can Be Done.
But most – not all, but most of them would agree that if they HAD found True Love with the Right Person, blah, blah, it could have been done with less hardship and sacrifice on their part.
So, moving on to Maci, I guess that’s why I don’t consider it all that awful that she includes among her priorities the finding of that loving life partner and co-parent.
That said, if things don’t work out with Kyle (as hinted at in the tease for next week) and she reacts by moving back to Chattanooga, I will be the first to express my haughtiest disapproval.
One more small Maci canon detai: A couple of people have characterized her relationship with Kyle as recent, which in its current “grown-up” incarnation, it is, but she has indicated that he was actually her “high school sweetheart” who pre-dates her fling with Ryan, so for what it’s worth, which, especially if they break up, isn’t much, Kyle is NOT some guy she just met.
There are links in the forum to an after interview with Amber and
Gary (filmed just before the reunion show.. after they viewed the fight for the first time), aprofessionals opinion on the situation, and how the police in Indiana are responding to this weeks show. Until the new recap is up come join us in the forums so we can all wrap the broom handles, douse them in gas and prepare to march upon Amber’s casa.
http://www.tvgasm.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=10294&p=144103#p144103