Minicap: The Walking Dead

The Walking Dead

By Saint Clare of Assisi | Monday, November 21, 2011 | 8:33 am | 44 Comments
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Hi, TWD team! Here’s you quick rehashing of episode #206, “Secrets”.

This week’s episode is all about, well, secrets. Surprise! There are about 89 different secrets on this show, but two of the biggest are: Dr. Greene keeps zombies in his barn for some weird reason; and, Lori is pregnant. Unfortunately, Glenn is the only one who knows both of these secrets, and he’s the last person in the world you’d want to keep your secret safe. So both of them are comin’ out.

And pretty quickly, too. Instead of sitting on the pregnancy secret, Glenn takes Lori aside and implores her to tell Rick about it so Glenn himself can be relieved of the burden. He even offers to make another run into town to get supplies for her, but she won’t budge. So, that failed, Glenn turns to Dale for advice…and immediately blurts out not just the pregnancy secret but the zombie secret, too.

The buck’s been passed. Dale seeks out Dr. Greene at the stables and makes it clear he knows about the zombies in the barn and wants to know what the hell’s going on. Dr. Greene lays it out for him: unlike everyone on Team Rick, who see zombies as dangerous, inhuman things that need to be killed, Dr. Greene believes zombies are still the same people they used to be, just a little sick. But really, all those zombies in the barn are people from Dr. Greene’s life, including his wife and stepson, and he isn’t ready to let go. No matter how much Dale explains that zombies can’t go back to being people, Dr. Greene won’t budge. And he even turns things around on Dale…maybe Dale should be more concerned with the people in his own group than with Dr. Greene. More on this later.

For now, there’s actually a third, lesser secret to be addressed this episode…the one where Dr. Greene wants Rick’s people to leave as soon as possible, and only Rick knows it. Well, Lori finds Dr. Greene doing some yard work and stops to make small talk, and he immediately cuts her off and lets her know what’s what. Lori immediately confronts Rick for not telling her and asks him how he plans to rectify the situation, and he tells her he’s working on it. Not cool, Rick. Even if Lori’s keeping several much bigger secrets from you at the moment.

Dale next seeks out Lori. He indicates he knows her secret as well and really just wants to know why she isn’t telling Rick about it. Dale speculates that it’s because of Shane, and even though Lori’s mortified to know others in the group know about her and Shane, that’s not the reason. She’s not telling Rick about the pregnancy because she’s conflicted about even having the baby at all. She raised Carl in a civilized world, but that world is gone now. She’s not sure she wants to bring a new life into it. And try as he might, Dale can’t persuade her the world is anything but horrible these days.

Talking things over with Dale must have eased Lori’s mind, because after their discussion she asks Glenn to make that trip to town he offered to pick up medical supplies. He agrees, and soon he and Maggie are on horses again for another run to the pharmacy. Maggie is pissed at him. She told him to keep her father’s zombie collection a secret. But Glenn takes the high road. To him, the real problem is that Dr. Greene is dead wrong about what zombies are, and he asks Maggie if she really shares her father’s beliefs. She does…the zombies in the barn are people she used to know too, after all.

But once they get to the pharmacy, they discover it’s not deserted like last time. A zombie pops out of the shadows, and Glenn barely manages to hatchet the thing in the head before it sinks its to her. Maggie is spooked. When they get back to the farm she tosses the supplies in Lori’s face as a “thank you” for putting them in danger. But really, Maggie’s upset because the horrible encounter is forcing Maggie to accept that zombies actually aren’t people any more. She knows that soon Glenn will be leaving the farm. That means he’ll be out among the zombies again. She can’t bear the idea of him turning into one. For starters, she tells him, he needs to be more assertive and not always accept the really dangerous assignments.

Let’s see what everyone else is up to this week…Shane and Rick are busy planning everyone’s activities for the next few days. There’s a housing development nearby that Sophia might be hiding out in, so Shane’s going to scope it out. But first, he and Rick are going to give everyone a shooting lesson. That even includes Carl.

Everyone travels to a field where Rick and Shane set up a shooting range, and soon they’re all making mincemeat out of the bottles and pots they’ve set up as targets. Andrea is an especially good shot, so Shane singles her out for the “advanced course”—hitting a target from twenty yards is great, but it’s not much like head-shotting zombie that’s bearing down on you. Shane ties a log to a rope and sets it swinging from a tree to act as a moving target, and while Andrea tries to focus, he starts verbally abusing her for missing it. He’s trying to toughen her up, but when he brings up her dead sister Amy he’s gone too far. To make it up to her, he offers to take her along on his trip to the housing development.

Like everywhere else after the zombiepocalypse, the housing development is a disaster area, and the recent carnage is on display. They try a house, and inside find a pile of corpses in one room, and a pile of charred skeletons in another. Most likely the corpses were a small band of survivors and the skeletons were the zombies trying to get at them. The housing development is a dead end. Andrea is worrying about having to tell Carol, but doesn’t get much time to think about it before a horde of live zombies comes running after them.

It’s time for Andrea to put those shooting skills to good use, but her nerves are bothering her and she can only hit a nearby zombie in its limbs a couple times. No good. Another zombie lurches toward her. Shane could easily shoot it down but he holds his fire. She’d better get over her trepidation or else. And just as the zombie reaches her, her reflexes kick in and she puts a bullet in its head. Andrea changes right in front of us, and now she’s a zombie-killin’ machine. Together they clear a path to their car and escape the housing development, and on the ride back to the farm Andrea is on such a high that she reaches over and grabs little Shane. Her nerves, and the sexual tension, are overcome.

Back at camp, Dale seems to notice something has gone on between the two of them and he pulls Shane aside. Earlier this season Shane was considering leaving the group, and Dale is now telling him to go ahead with the idea. It’s about more than just Andrea, though. Dale has long held doubts about what happened when Shane and Otis went to the high school to retrieve the surgical supplies, and that combined with what Dr. Greene said to him earlier is enough for a confrontation. When Shane doesn’t deny it, he basically admits to killing Otis to get the job done. Then things turn dark. If Shane’s capable of offing Otis for the sake of saving Carl, imagine what he could do to someone he actively dislikes. Like Dale.

All those confrontations are the undercard for the main event, which is between Lori and Rick. One of the items Lori asked Glenn to get from the pharmacy was a morning after pill. (Ignore the fact that it’s well after the actual morning after she got pregnant). Glenn took what Maggie said about assertiveness to heart, and he offers Lori his take… she’s got a choice to make, but she better not make it alone. For emphasis, he brings out an item from the pharmacy that wasn’t on the list: prenatal vitamins.

She’s got to tell Rick. But she’s still spun completely around, and in a moment of haste she cracks open a packet of morning after pills and downs a couple, before immediately regretting it and running off to a field to puke them back up.

But Rick finds the pill packets. He knows. He finds her sitting in the field, and they hash things out. At first he’s furious that a) she didn’t tell him, b) she earlier cussed him out for lying, and c) that she decided to abort it without consulting him. (At least she backed down on that one, though). But he really just wants to know why she hid it from him. She tells him what she told Dale earlier, that she hates the thought of bringing another kid to a horrible world.

He doesn’t really have an answer to that. How they’re going to raise another kid is something they’ll decide later. For now, Rick just wants an end to all the secrecy. He asks her, point-blank, if she has any more secrets, and finally, after twelve episodes, she comes clean about Shane.

And you know what? Rick pretty much had that figured out already. He’s not even mad. Wah-wahhhh.

Full recap Tuesday! Until then, check out last week’s recap here. One more episode until the “Midseason Finale”.

 

Saint Clare of Assisi attended Boston University and has written for The Onion.  He took his name from the patron saint of television, who was a virgin and saved a boy from a wolf one time.

44 Comments

  1. 1
    plockeness monster
    Posted November 21, 2011 at 10:32 am

    Loved the car scene b/w Shane and Andrea. HOT!

    I didn’t like Shane threatening Dale either.

    Can’t wait for the full recap :)

  2. 2
    Pegster
    Posted November 21, 2011 at 11:54 am

    Last week we got an entire episode of Daryl, and this week he barely made it off the cutting room floor. HOW RUDE, TWD, RUDE.

    Need. More. Daryl.

  3. 3
    timgunnssister timgunnssister
    Posted November 21, 2011 at 12:12 pm

    M’kay. Was anyone else more than a bit creeped out by Andrea’s man hands on Shanes crotch? I mean, I’m so glad they finally did the deed and yeah, we all know Andrea was on top ’cause she’s feelin’ so cowboy lately but really. Those. Hands.

    Nasty.

    And I agree. Need more Daryl.

  4. 4
    CattyFan cattyfan
    Posted November 21, 2011 at 12:30 pm

    Dr. Greene must have missed a few days of schoolin’ if he believes that creatures who can keep moving (and attacking) when all that’s left is an intact head are still alive and are able to be “cured.” Even if they found a treatment, most of the Walkers are decaying. There aren’t enough plastic surgeons in the world to fix that.

    Shane and Andrea creep me out.

    I will third the call for more Daryl.

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    CattyFan cattyfan
    Posted November 21, 2011 at 12:38 pm

    As an aside, why are so many of the names so much alike? Carl and Carol…Daryl and Dale…it would have been nice for the writers to differentiate the names a little more.

  6. 6
    BamA
    Posted November 21, 2011 at 1:09 pm

    I think Lori & Shane were having an affair prior to the zombie invasion. When he said something to her about it starting because she thought he was dead & the world was going to hell, she shook her head no & then yes. Watch it again. I can’t wait for a flashback at some point to confirm it. I also wonder how Lori will feel when the Shane/Andrea thing will come out.
    And I think Dr. Greene has a serious case of denial. He wants Rick’s group to leave because he doesn’t want to face the fact that his loved ones are dead & gone & replaced by something horrible & unfathomable.
    Btw, I dislike Andrea. I think her character is going to die at some point.
    And, are they ever going to find Sophia? I feel like she’s an after thought, like “oh yeah, crap, she’s still missing!”

  7. 7
    maryedith
    Posted November 21, 2011 at 1:34 pm

    @BamA, I noticed the same thing about Lori’s headshake. I figured St Clare would pick up on it too because she’s on the lookout for that shit! I don’t know why they’re keeping it so ambiguous still. Is it supposed to be a big surprise for the viewers, because everyone suspects it already. Alternately, it could have just been bad acting on Lori’s part? I really like that actress, but I’ve found her acting this season to be pretty awful. I sit there and wonder if it’s the writing that’s at fault. Very distracting.

  8. 8
    maryedith
    Posted November 21, 2011 at 1:38 pm

    Also — I guess that wasn’t what Jenner whispered to Rick after all? Will they ever reveal that, or have they decided to pretend it didn’t happen?

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    CattyFan cattyfan
    Posted November 21, 2011 at 3:28 pm

    I’m stll guessing Jenner whispered to Rick that “Lori is pregnant,” and that’s how Rick knew about Lori and Shane…because Rick hadn’t been back long enough at that point to be the father.

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    Liz
    Posted November 21, 2011 at 3:41 pm

    Oh. I kinda thought Jenner told Rick that he saw the Lori and Shane confrontation, or something along the lines of they were doing it or whatever. I don’t think if Jenner had said she was pregnant, that Rick would have said “it doesn’t matter what he said” in that first episode when he was walkie-talkie-ing those other people (I can’t remember their names). I think he would have cared and would have immediately done something if he knew all this time that she was pregnant. I think that’s also why he was asking how long she’d known about it and asked about days, weeks, etc. – so that he could calculate if he was the father or not.

    Also, it’s getting increasingly difficult for me to feel anything but creeped out when Shane and Lori have their “moments” now. Besides threatening Dale, up and killing Otis, and trying to rape Lori, he’s just such a douche most of the time. And if she likes him so much because he takes care of Carl, doesn’t Rick do that? Am I missing something there?

    I do think I’ll like the Carol/Daryl thing it looks like they’re setting up though.

  11. 11
    Pedestrienne
    Posted November 21, 2011 at 3:58 pm

    You know when you really love a show and you kind of ignore the rubbish bits in the vain hope they’ll go away, but they keep banking up? TWD is really starting to do that to me this season.

    What really got me this week was how Dale’s entire purpose was to bumble around having ‘important’ conversations to push plot along. It was so frequent I don’t actually know now how to talk to anyone in my own life without Dale doing it for me first. Also, to the character’s credit, I thought he did pretty well making it sound to Dr. Greene like he had accidentally stumbled upon the zombies in the barn – so how did Maggie know that Glenn had told? It’s not impossible that it would come out, but it feels like we have to do a lot of leaping to find that conclusion plausible.

    And @BamA and @maryedith – totally thought that about Lori’s expression, pausing and nodding too.

    Plus, Sophia = tedious. I used to be rooting for her and now I honestly hope they just find a zombie Sophia wandering about.

  12. 12
    CattyFan cattyfan
    Posted November 21, 2011 at 4:03 pm

    I want them to find Sophia so we can see Daryl passing on his badassery to a new generation. Can’t you just picture him teaching her how to use the bow and arrow?

  13. 13
    itchy
    Posted November 21, 2011 at 4:07 pm

    Nice that the boy healed from major surgery in record time. In just a matter of days after being cut open he’s able to handle a gun and its kickback?

    Also: apart from wasting EXTREMELY VALUABLE LIVE AMMUNITION, wouldn’t all that shooting attract a walker or two…or several hundred?

    I’m just not buying this farm being somehow magically protected from what’s going on everywhere else. And there’s no way any thinking person would choose to remain pregnant in a situation like this. No fucking way at all.

    And I’m still not enjoying the idea that they’re trying to turn this show into a new Lost.

    The little attack in the pharmacy reminded me of how great the show was at the very beginning and why it’s just become sad now.

    But please please please! Enough of the bullshit Sophia story already!

  14. 14
    CattyFan cattyfan
    Posted November 21, 2011 at 4:22 pm

    “Also: apart from wasting EXTREMELY VALUABLE LIVE AMMUNITION, wouldn’t all that shooting attract a walker or two…or several hundred?”

    Absolutely what I was thinking during the “training” scenes.

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    timgunnssister timgunnssister
    Posted November 21, 2011 at 5:04 pm

    Same here. My son asked “Are they making their own bullets – ’cause they sure are going through them!”. I mean, unless one of those vehicles is stuffed to the gills with assorted ammo, they should be out by now.

    At least Daryl has the good sense to re-use arrows.

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    ohralphie
    Posted November 21, 2011 at 6:05 pm

    Much like with Lost I am a hopeless whore when it comes to this show. I have a feeling its going to use and abuse my trust, my suspension of disbelief and love.

    Yes, even in GA bullets don’t grow on trees and are going to be harder then hell to find. I would imagine all the gun stores (and Walmarts) will have been emptied out by now. But still – they do need to learn to fire a gun and I can understand why getting more people trained would be not only a good thing, but a necessary one.
    I hope that they will explain why there has yet to be stray zombie wandering around the farm. Although there was the walker in the well…
    I love Glenn. And I loved that Maggie confronted him about always taking risks for the group and yet not getting a hell of a lot of respect (or concern) in return.
    What even I can’t handle is Carol. Her daughter has been missing at least one week in a forest with zombies, cliffs, swift creeks/rivers and god knows a few survivalists thrown in for kicks. Yet there she is, happily buzzing around camp cooking and doing laundry. HER DD IS MISSING! My god woman – show a little concern. Maybe go out and look for her or insist that the rest stop this looking for an hour or two crap. They leave camp well after dawn and return well before sunset. Talk about a half assed rescue and as a mother I would be all over that.

  17. 17
    maryedith
    Posted November 21, 2011 at 7:57 pm

    Whether or not they explain why the farm is so safe, it won’t explain why the characters think it’s so safe that they can screw each other in barn lofts and have deep conversations in the woods. I feel like the tone keeps shifting into the kind of horror movie where the characters don’t know they’re in a horror movie. These guys are only a month past the zombie outbreak? They should all still be in shock, not screwing around in pharmacies. And as for Carol busying herself around the camp, it’s like the tone shifts to “Without a Trace,” where the cops tell the bereaved parents to try to live normally and let the police do their jobs. It’s such a mishmash. And @Pedestrienne — thank you for saying that about Dale having such a great excuse for finding the walkers and then it just being taken for granted that Doc would find out it was Maggie. Hackneyed situation comedy tone.

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    spinal11
    Posted November 21, 2011 at 7:59 pm

    “But really, Maggie’s upset because the horrible encounter is forcing Maggie to accept that zombies actually aren’t people any more.”

    Not to nitpick, but is this the same girl who was introduced to us while calmly riding up on a horse and smashing a walker’s head in with a baseball bat? And now she insists they’re people with feelings, and turns into a helpless, sobbing mess when she encounters one in a pharmacy? A little continuity, guys, please.

    And I’m all for Shane and Andrea getting it on, as well as anyone else who feels the urge. I’m not a pervert (well, not completely) but there’s nothing wrong with a little recreational stress-relief after a near death experience. Come on, we’d all do the same.

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    Pedestrienne
    Posted November 21, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    In case any of you – like me – also read episode reviews on ‘Den of Geek’, do NOT scroll down to the comments on this episode over there. Someone has left a comment there that gives a full, totally-spoilery synopsis of the next episode.

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    itchy
    Posted November 21, 2011 at 11:37 pm

    At the rate the writers are going, you just know the final reveal is going to be that whole thing has either been A) a dream or B) Hell. And just when you thought all was safe again, an arm will come up from the ground and grab someone on the leg.

    Spinal, excellent point about Maggie’s sudden chickenshittedness. The girl in the pharmacy was NOT the same Amazon who saved the day on that horse. It’s a shame, because it would be nice if at least one of the women in the show had a bit of fortitude. Without being batshit crazy (the Andrea character).

    Glen’s the most interesting character anyway. Darryl’s great, sure, but you’d expect him to be great in a situation like that. But a guy like Glen?

    Have they already filmed the second half of the season? Any chance we can call for a do-over?

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    yeschef
    Posted November 22, 2011 at 5:21 am

    “As an aside, why are so many of the names so much alike?”

    This is a problem in families today and for that matter throughout history.

    “At the rate the writers are going”

    They have already a third season. As for the progress of the tv series compared to the comics I think at the rate they are going it’s going to take another four or five seasons to get where it is in the comics.

    “A little continuity, guys”

    Nah She like a lot of the others is starting to become mentally unstable. Some people would become saner but struggle for a while. Others would be a rock no matter what. Others would snap with very little pressure.

    “I hope that they will explain why there has yet to be stray zombie wandering around the farm.”

    Keep watching is all I will say.

    “I’m just not buying this farm being somehow magically protected from what’s going on everywhere else. And there’s no way any thinking person would choose to remain pregnant in a situation like this. ”

    Well if the human race doesn’t try to propagate then there is no real point in living is there? Also there would be medical issues with trying a artificial miscarriage ,mind you there would be medical issues with a natural miscarriage.
    Yes the characters in the tv series and comic don’t pick up the fact that the walkers are attracted to noise and that the noise of bullets in a rural environment carries for miles. The zombies are also attracted by campfire smells. The zombie eyesight isn’t so good but the sense of smell is very high.

    Keep watching is all I will say. If they have the stones to show what is in the comics you will see your horror and that human stupidity is the greatest enemy of humanity.

  22. 22
    Pegster
    Posted November 22, 2011 at 5:22 am

    @spinal – I agree. Get it on while the getting it on is good. But, WHY IS NO ONE GETTING IT ON WITH DARYL? yumyumyumyum.

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    plockeness monster
    Posted November 22, 2011 at 6:51 am

    LOL. Andrea’s hands are kind of manly.

    I also thought it was weird that Carl was good as new after like, 3 days.

    I love Dale. I would call him “Pappy.”

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    timgunnssister timgunnssister
    Posted November 22, 2011 at 7:08 am

    Pegster, outstanding question. Why IS no one getting it on with Daryl? Can’t be hygiene related – they’re all probably a bit gamey at this point. I say we call for volunteers.

    *raises hand*

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    PinkLemonade
    Posted November 22, 2011 at 9:03 am

    I certainly did not mind Andrea grabbing Shane and getting it on. I hope that it will cool her out enough to keep her from making more stupid decisions. In high stress situations, stress relieving post event is a good thing. Shane is walking around with a crazy look in his eyes like Robert Deniro in Taxi Driver after he gave himself the mohawk. Andrea telling people no! all the time and getting folks shot and hurt got old a long time ago. I did like the part where Shane calmly made her gather herself and shoot the walkers because she needed to learn in the high pressure situation instead of squealing and freaking out.

    Lori, well, I didn’t like her from the beginning. I certainly understand her concerns about being pregnant, trying to run and function in post apocalypse but not telling Rick is just stupid. She could have seriously hurt herself talking all of those morning after pills in one fail swoop and then Herschel would have had to try to save her triffling skinny butt too. I think Darryl and Sophia’s mom should get together, just for the short term. He needs some tender care and regard and she needs some “stress relief” too.

    I can’t stand Maggie. She’s too damn passive agressive as Lori and Andrea seem to be too. I think Shane had a “thing” for Lori before the zombies anyway. I don’t think they were having an affair but Rick and Lori were having problems.

    I’m tired of them searching for Sophia and will be glad when they move on whatever happens. I know the farm is isolated and so the zombies didn’t encroach too much there but for me its too much to hope and rely on isolation. Their windows are exposed and they didn’t even make shutters that they could close in a pinch to fortify anything.

    Re Carl and the gun thing, that was more Lori ridiculii. As someone already pointed out the thing I was thinking immediately while watching the episode is that they are in GEORGIA. A lot of kids hung with bows, guns, knives, traps starting at age 3! The Otis-shooting-Carl thing was an accident, a terrible, terrible accident and is not a reflection on gun usage. What did she expect Carl to do? Hide behind her the whole time? And again I say outloud and in my mind for the millionth time, WHERE ARE THE SILENCERS?

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    PinkLemonade
    Posted November 22, 2011 at 9:11 am

    Oh and Dale confronting crazy beady eye shorn Shane about “knowing” what he does about Shane was not smart. Shane may be on the lunatic side but he is still a logical thinking man with a sure shot. Watch out Dale.

    I’m glad that Glenn is not being used a a door stop to story line anymore. I wonder what they’re going to do with the black guy whose character name I can’t think of right now.

  27. 27
    plockeness monster
    Posted November 22, 2011 at 10:00 am

    For fellow Rick lovers!

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/bitedaily/good-guy-rick-18op

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    yeschef
    Posted November 22, 2011 at 12:38 pm

    ” is that they are in GEORGIA. A lot of kids hung with bows, guns, knives, traps starting at age 3″

    Depends upon where they grew up in Georgia. Also Lori is not from Georgia. Carl wasn’t trained to shoot or hunt if memory serves from what I read in the comics.

    As for silencers they aren’t easy to find (being heavily regulated by law you cannot buy them) and unless someone has the knowledge cannot be made. Now the military does use silencers but that is on certain weapons to hide the muzzle flash in urban combat. The silencers are made to go on these weapons and have to be periodically maintained and replaced. Even finding law enforcement armories with them is pretty hard since very few of them have silencers in stock. When Rick left the city after waking up from the hospital the police armory was picked over to a certain degree.

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    yeschef
    Posted November 22, 2011 at 12:40 pm

    “I wonder what they’re going to do with the black guy whose character name I can’t think of right now.”

    Tyreese. I forget did the tv series state he was a former football player and his is daughter Julie and her white boyfriend with them?

    If so then if AMC has the testicular fortitude I suggest you keep watching for what happens to them plus if have a certain love interest for Tyreese that shows up. Very interesting character that and I wonder if they will have the stones to put that character in and the way the character is introduced.

    Keep watching!

  30. 30
    plockeness monster
    Posted November 22, 2011 at 2:00 pm

    HOLY SHIT.

    Yeschef. Those are spoilers. STOP TALKING ABOUT THE FUCKING COMIC BOOK.

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    Pedestrienne
    Posted November 22, 2011 at 2:43 pm

    ^Seconded. Agree with @plockness monster.

    @yeschef, we could all very easily go help ourselves to comic-based spoilers if we wanted, but we don’t for a reason.

  32. 32
    yeschef
    Posted November 22, 2011 at 3:21 pm

    So stating to keep watch if they have certain characters is a spoiler?

    Stating that if a love interest who may or not show up, shows up to keep watching is a spoiler? Why wouldn’t you watch if the love interest showed up? Why wouldn’t you think a love interest would never show up it’s pretty much a staple of human nature to have one.

    You must live very boring lives if a possibility of something that you can think up is a spoiler then.

  33. 33
    Pedestrienne
    Posted November 22, 2011 at 3:29 pm

    You named comic book characters that have not yet shown up in the series. And your ‘Ooooh, STAY TUNED, I know what’s coming, ooooh!’ tone was, frankly, fucking moronic.

    Ooooh, we could all know what was coming if we wanted to, so ooooh, shut up because we don’t! Ooooh!

  34. 34
    itchy
    Posted November 22, 2011 at 3:40 pm

    Anyhoo. The writers are doing a great job of spoiling this show anyway.

  35. 35
    notwithoutmytv
    Posted November 22, 2011 at 3:49 pm

    No, yeschef, it isn’t a spoiler. But it is ANNOYING AS FUCK.

  36. 36
    lindaw205
    Posted November 22, 2011 at 3:49 pm

    yeschef, really, really stop it. I almost didn’t read this weeks recap because I didn’t want any spoilers and yet here you are, after being asked not to do so.

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    sarcasatire sarcasatire
    Posted November 22, 2011 at 4:05 pm

    See, this is why I won’t read the second book of Game of Thrones even though I am fiending to know what happens. So when the series comes back, I won’t know all the plot points, and when an episode ends in a cliffhanger I won’t be tempted to blurt out something equally annoying like ‘Don’t worry, guys. So-and-so will be all right”..or “Keep watching guys..it only gets better from here. Especially for the Lannisters.” I know when people do this they think they are helping. But really, they aren’t.

  38. 38
    lindaw205
    Posted November 22, 2011 at 4:12 pm

    How many Game of Thrones books are there? I’ve been tempted to read the first one but don’t want to get into it if there are 10 books.

  39. 39
    sarcasatire sarcasatire
    Posted November 22, 2011 at 4:28 pm

    Hey Linda! There are 4 books out now. I hear a fifth is in the making. The first book covers the first season of the show and then a bit more. So I reckon next season will cover the second book, as well. The first volume is around 800 pages but I devoured it. I think you’ll love it, as well. It’s no Pillars of the Earth, but it’s just as captivating. I love the show but reading the book gave me so much more detail and insights that weren’t captured on the screen. Linke a nice bonus! :)

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    plockeness monster
    Posted November 22, 2011 at 4:35 pm

    Satire- I’m in the same situation with GOT. The second book has been on my nightstand for months. I don’t want to read and ruin the show…even though the books came first.

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    lindaw205
    Posted November 22, 2011 at 4:52 pm

    Okay, you convinced me. Ordering from my second hand book store now.

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    Snootchy Bootches
    Posted November 25, 2011 at 2:49 am

    After GOT started, we started reading the books in our house. Read through them all like wildfire. The slowest book is the second book, in my opinion. It is one of those books that has to branch two other books, if you know what I mean. It is a transition book. But it was still good. The fourth book came out just as we finished the third book, so it was perfect. GRRM has said that the last book is the 6th book and HBO has already said that they are going to stick with it until the end. Hopefully GRRM won’t take as long to write 5 and 6 as he did to write 4. But from what I heard, he has already written a lot of it, he just had to organize it into separate books. So hopefully they will follow soon.

    Oh and I’ll throw in some on topic obligatory TWD comment: I didn’t think Andrea had man hands. That shot where her hand is on his crotch looked like a zombie hand. SHOOT HER!

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    Snootchy Bootches
    Posted November 25, 2011 at 2:51 am

    Oh forgot to mention, reading the GOT books didn’t spoil the series for me. It actually made it better. They are being VERY true to the books, but they only have so much time. The books fill in a lot of details and back story that make some things make more sense.

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    Pedestrienne
    Posted November 25, 2011 at 4:30 pm

    I had exactly the same thing, Snootchy (although I’ve only read AGoT so far). For me reading the books after the show was like colouring in what the series laid out.

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