"God, you go ahead and bless yourself. No, really. I don't mind."

Thanks for the extra quick recap, Schoon, but try to give us a little more than the Reader's Digest version, OK? WE generally enjoy your extra snarky stuff.

Jameka WAS awesome, pulling Amber's leg and get her to believe she has a pretty body and the personality to be a top model. I agree; the editing was cruel but, hey, she deserves it, doesn't it?

Eric's become a total dick and if he mentions he's a 5' 7" Jewish boy who happens the be a hunk (relatively speaking) in the house I swear I'll stick needles in my eyes.

I thought that they should have followed Zach's advice and put up the Dicks, but he's stabbed people in the back by voting otherwise and I guess I would have done what Jess did. Trouble is: who do you vote out now? I say Amber. I have had it with that weeping willow. Loved it when she started her prayer by saying "Hey, God, it's me". Must be on first name terms by now.

First on all, they showed a whole montage (sp?) of Amber stuffing her face in that scene, it was vicious, and hilarious.

Also lets not forget when they were doing the shopping spree and amber complained about the sizes saying "Im not a small as i look". gf & I couldnt stop laughing.

Your recap has the feel of a kid who forgot his homework and did it on the bus on the way to school. I'm sick of these idiots too...but you are what still makes it entertaining. I'm giving you a C+. You can do so much better.

You see? When you're good we get cranky if you try to slip a quick one past us. It's like having your kid get home from school and goes: "Hi, Dad, love ya, 'bye!!" Where's the love, Schoonie? Lots of people watch the show (or not) but enjoy your recaps all the more than the show itself. You and Flipit have brought BB recapping ton new heights!

I still can't stand Jess's voice, but when she and Jameka (who, religious nuttiness or not, is pretty hot) jumped up in the bubbles ans shared a nude hug. OMG!

I suppose that Mrs. Cartman is going to have to give up her spot on the cover of "Crack Whore" magazine...

Why do ppl keep saying Dick burned her on purpose??? She wasn't even burned people!!!!

Um... more like 'America's Next Slop Model'.

Um... more like 'America's Next Slop Model'.

livemusicjunkie

We keep saying he burned her on purpose because he had the cig turned around pointing at her and he was stabbing at her with it. He got black shit all over her hand so it was accidental that he didn't actually harm her. That's why.

As for you schoonie, since I think you've probably been spanked enough by the others at this point I'll just assume that this was a rather rushed effort from you because you had explosive diarrhea, your dog ate your homework and /or flipit forgot to untie you and you had to chew your way loose.
Either way, we forgive you........this time.

Good gravy people . . . still with that freaking cigarette business? Now I have to point something out that will (by default) be defending Dick's actions. Thanks a lot you guys.

The other day I made some soup. I left the saucepan on the heat for twenty minutes. As a rational person I knew that that the handle was very hot and it would burn me if I grabbed it. I then grabbed the saucepan handle and IT BURNED ME. What the hell? I should file charges against the saucepan for assault!

Anyway, the guy's a complete jerk and has some serious issues to deal with if he ever got around to a little self-examination (never going to happen).

Gotta love Amber's reality disconnect & mind boggling familiarity with the big guy. Cannot tell you how many times my GF & I exchaged "Can you believe she just said that?" looks last night. Seriously hoping she goes this week. Just can't take it anymore.

Did the saucepan handle take on sentient awareness and stab itself at you repeatedly? Because that's the only way that your analogy would make sense.

And the recap is short because...nothing happened. The show was ninety percent filler, and I talked about the cool parts, the best of which was America's Next Top Amber, of course. But I'm not recapping Amber and Jameka praying for three minutes straight for the ninety-fifth time because...you guys know how that goes. Hate them! Can't wait for her to be evicted.

It's not like she was sitting on the couch and he walked over and stabbed it into her hand. She was grabbing at a JERK's hand that had a lit cigarette in it for chrissake! What did she think was going to happen?

I think that Dick should've just held it over the back of the couch and out of her reach, but the guy's an ASSHOLE. She knew that better than anyone on the planet. I just think that everyone who thinks that Jen is such a tragic figure in this incident need to get a grip.

Also, are you giving Dick credit as being sentient? Mighty generous Schoonie!

Oh man..I was writing this long post about the saucepan having issues with women and it torturing her/him for hours every day for weeks etc but you said it best Schoonie!

I have no idea who I'm rooting for anymore...all I know is that the Dicks need to leave.

And nothing ever again from Daniele's actual boyfriend eh? Hmmmmm...

Pierce I think you're the one that needs to get a grip.

In this case there is right and wrong and Dick was clearly wrong. You can try to justify that behaviour however you like with your saucepan story.

Way to cherry pick my comments sweetblondie.

"the guy's a complete jerk and has some serious issues to deal with."

"I think that Dick should've just held it over the back of the couch and out of her reach"

Did your computer not download those statements?

I completely agree that the Donato family reunion needs to come to a swift conclusion. They're both pretty damn repellant.

Can't believe I'm now rooting for Jess (couldn't stand her at the beginning of the season). I was beginning to get on Eric's side as the AP thing has been occasionally tough, but his silence during Dick's never-ending verbal abuse of everyone (especially Jen) is really shameful. Also his chicken shit comment as she left didn't garner him any points either.

I was never hating on Jen. She wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, but who in this season is? She did make for good TV though.

Also, the mystery of "Danielle and the case of the disappearing boyfriend" is pretty striking. It's like the elephant in the room. Doers anyone with the feeds know if it has ever been addressed?

I just read that it's been revealed that Jen is Vanna White's nanny....

I support Pierce.

I DO wish all of you had seen the Dick/Jen incident LIVE on Showtime2. Dick turned his cigarette toward her AFTER she had already burned HERSELF. If Jen had a brain cell, she would have known she would be burned further if she kept grabbing at the lit cigarette. Sure, Dick is less than the perfect gentleman, but Jen was the one at fault. Let's get the facts straight. Personally, I'm glad she's gone.

By the way Anon E. Mouse, anyone paying attention knew that Jen was Vanna White's nanny weeks ago.

Appreciate the support kensrus. Jeez, you make one little saucepan analogy . . .

But dude "Dick is less than the perfect gentleman." That's like saying that Michael Vick is less than the perfect dog owner!

I try to read all the comments but had not heard that Jen was the nanny for Vanna White and that this was confirmed. Apparently unlike you kensrus, I have a life outside of this show.

Thank for being a smartass.
It's people like you who take the fun out of being on sites like this.

LOL @ Amber's "I'm not as small as I look." And ewwww I hope her daughter does not inherit her cow-like eating habits. It's just so gross.

wait--since she accidently burned herself first it made it ok for ED to intentionally try to burn her? i don't understand.

ED gives evil a bad name. i want him and Dicklet gone even more than brain damaged Amber--although it is a close call.

Gosh, such anger, such vitriol! I'll skip my own Dick-related rant (just this once), but LOL to Pierce on the Vick analogy.

My viewing time has been waning (so I may not know what the h*ll I'm talking about), but I still think Eric & Jess are the only viable rooting options here. Yes, Eric is often a spazz and/or a jerk, Jess is often dimwitted and/or provincial, but the only moments of levity or humor, the only moments of lightness or fun, the only moments that don't make you want to stab yourself in the face, the only moments that don't make you DESPAIR FOR THE FUTURE OF MANKIND are occasional moments involving Eric & Jess.

I mean, given the option, which can you really bear to watch for any extended period of time: (a) Amber & Jameka; (b) Dick & Daniele; (c) Zack & his chessboard; or (d) Jess & Eric.

I mean, really.

Re: Eric not defending Jen (& lashing out at her when she left). Eric's relationship with Jen has always been kind of bizarro. They reached some kind of "understanding" early on -- when everyone else was either ignoring or hating on Jen -- and it was agreed that he would act mean to her around others to cover any kind of relationship. Eric even once mentioned early on to Jess about an Eric-Jess-Jen final three. Then, the week when Dick was on his get-out-Eric crusade (and posited, incorrectly, that Eric had an alliance with Kail), Jen spoke up & said "well, he has an alliance with me" & basically ratted him out completely. (Bizarrely, I don't even think she did it maliciously (?!) -- she's just programmed to spew out random information in her data banks occasionally, I guess.) So, when Eric went into hyper survival mode & Jen tried to talk to him during that time, he was kind of like "WTF?" But who can figure out what makes Jen tick? During her last week there, Dick was still suspicious that there was still something between Eric & Jen (because, for example, Dick wanted to get out Jen first, and Eric didn't), so I think that shout out at the end was probably for Dick's benefit (that & the stuff she was stirring about Eric as she left re: on & off again girlfriend).

In fact, though, Jen doesn't seem to hate Eric at all.

http://www.realitywanted.net/2007/08/24/interview-with-jen-johnson-of-big-brother-8/

Oops, sorry for the book. (But it wasn't a Dick rant!)

Pierce is 100% correct. It's understandable how Jen was an emotional wreck, and Dick is a complete jerk, BUT who tries to grab a lit cigarette out of someone's hand?!? She was standing over him. He wasn't going after her physically. C'mon people!

Moving on....what I found funny on this episode was how four not-too-bright girls (well, maybe Jameka's smart) beat the guys soundly in the word scramble game. Made the guys look like complete idiots.

Pierce, If I've said it once, I've said it a BILLION times: I don't exaggerate. :)

Sorry Anon E., I didn't mean to imply you were lifeless. Now, HAVE SOME FUN!!

Jen was grabbing at the cigarette because Dick was taunting her by blowing smoke in her face. It wasn't some random act on Jen's part. "What are you going to do about it?" he said. So she tried to knock it out of his hand and he tried to burn her with it. I suppose she could have walked away, but he only would have followed her, and blowing more smoke, and what was she supposed to do, never go outside again? Why isn't everyone relieved to see at least one person stand up to him?

I'm amazed at the number of Dick-may-be-a-jerk-but... comments. You've got a really high abuse threshold out there.

Thanks so much for the link, Lime23. The information you provided also makes Eric's good bye video to Jen make more sense to me.

Sparky, are you saying that Jen physically struck Dick because of something he said? That's assault brother.

And I'm kidding of course (before everyone gets their panties in a bunch - Wait! That's sexist). Yay! More posts . . .

Totally agree sparky. Jen said she wasn't burned, but that doesn't change the fact that he was in fact trying to burn her on purpose!
I'm still PO'd at BB for not giving him any kind of penalty for that.

Anyways... I didn't get to see this entire episode b/c one of my dogs got sick all over the kitchen floor (bleh)...
but whatever though.. it was just more of BB kissing D&D's butts.

Jen was grabbing at the cigarette because Dick was taunting her by blowing smoke in her face. It wasn't some random act on Jen's part. "What are you going to do about it?" he said. So she tried to knock it out of his hand and he tried to burn her with it. I suppose she could have walked away, but he only would have followed her, and blowing more smoke, and what was she supposed to do, never go outside again? Why isn't everyone relieved to see at least one person stand up to him?

I'm amazed at the number of Dick-may-be-a-jerk-but... comments. You've got a really high abuse threshold out there.

Pierce, that's a great image: the cigarette is a part of Dick's anatomy!

Sorry about the repeat posting (#31). I didn't send it. Don't know where it came from.

Sparky, what amazes me is how everyone thinks Jen is blameless. From the first competition she was bitchy to Dick & Daniele. Please Note- I Am Not Defending Dick! What I am saying is that she holds some responsibility for her own actions.

Also, if I were Jen, I would not stop at trying to get his cigarettes. I'd be at the least, pouring lots of iced tea over his head.

As far as being blameless; you might even say that Jen started the whole thing when she announced she didn't want Dick to touch her during the oil competition. You could say that was bitchy (we all disliked her back then), but in retrospect it was only an intelligent hygiene decision. Would you want Dick's hands on you? Even if he wore several layers of latex?

So Dick overheard that comment and instead of the being the adult who sets the example for maturity, he (as one early recap put it) got he wittle feewings huwt and never stopped calling her a bitch.

Then she made up that lie about Nick trying to kiss her, but she got called on it, and cussed out for it, and after that (at least this is what is looked like from the episodes) she started to change her attitude. In other words, she did the almost unheard of thing in that house and tried to learn from her mistakes. And (many? most? of us) saw that, and got the joke of her showing up the desperate pretentious seriousness of everything and everyone else about the show: Please remember her bunny-suit comments. Best moment of the season! Has anyone else been even remotely funny? (I mean intentionally.)

Blameless, no. But really, the punishment way outstripped the offense.

What if instead it was a needle instead of a cigarette and she kept trying to grab it, at the sharp end, screaming "You're sticking me! You keep sticking me" while trying all her might to grab said needle.
Pierce you are absolutely,positively correct. I watched the LiveFeed and it was totally
Jen's extreme stupidity.
Not that Dick isn't the lowest form of humanlife.

when someone tells you repeatedly to stop grabbing for something that is lit because you will get burned, you should probably just stop. regardless of whether or not he's a Nerd Herd 2.0 "good person".

Okay, yes, ye turned the cigarette and he shouldn't have, but he still did not burn her. And had she not been swatting at him, it wouldn't have even touched her, so A) she wasn't burned and B) she shouldn't have been slapping at him.

Also, another minor point, he did NOT blow smoke in her face either - he blew it in her direction (again, rude, but different). Why are ppl hellbent on changing the facts just because he has a big mouth???

I agree that Dick did not burn Jen and I don't condone Jen's actions, grabbing at his cigarette and destroying the cigarettes (his property). BUT, I do understand that Dick's actions drove her to that point. You can only be treated in a certain way for so long before you loose it.

"Also, another minor point, he did NOT blow smoke in her face either - he blew it in her direction (again, rude, but different). Why are ppl hellbent on changing the facts just because he has a big mouth???"

Dude, either way, he blew it at her while she was eating because he knew it was going to piss her off. No need to split hairs, he did it maliciously and whether he blew it "at her" or "in her face" he's an asshole and was trying to intimidate her. Regardless of "who started it" or whatever, he started it in this situation. Keep in mind that this is the same guy who has spent two months in the house telling her that he's going to anally rape her until she bleeds to death. It has nothing to do with him having a big mouth, it has to do with him being a raging, misogynist douchebag. I'd grab at his cigarettes, too. Fuck that guy.

"What if instead it was a needle instead of a cigarette and she kept trying to grab it, at the sharp end, screaming "You're sticking me! You keep sticking me" while trying all her might to grab said needle."

Well, it is kind of dumb to grab at a lit cigarette, true, but if someone was purposefully blowing smoke on me to piss me off, I'd probably do the same thing. The problem is that he changes his grip on the cigarette once she starts grabbing at it and then he jabs it at her, trying to burn her on purpose. It's not like Jen walked into the cigarette, he fucking stabbed at her with it. Go watch it, I'm not making it up.

Okay, I get it! think it was Jen's fault and she got what she deserved.

If by what she deserved you mean a few weeks of peace and quiet on a beach in Mexico, then I agree.

I'll say it again: HIGH ABUSE THRESHOLD out there. I'm guessing many of you are smokers.

Okay! I get it! Many of you think it was all Jen's fault and she got what she deserved.

If by what she deserved you mean a couple of weeks of peace and quiet on a beach in Mexico, then I agree.

I'll say it again: HIGH ABUSE THRESHOLD out there. I'm guessing most of you are smokers.

Wow schoonie, great way to get everybody off your back and arguing amongst themselves. That was Jenuis!
And I agree with sparky, most of you who are taking up for dick, not you pierce, i get it you are not taking up for him, there does seem to be a high threshold for abuse and I bet most of Dick's actual fans, have serious issues themselves. Now everybody take a deep breath and get the sand out of your vagina's!

Bless you CheriesTake. I appreciate your reading my whole take on the situation.

All in all, I think Jen showed a damn near heroic resolve in ignoring / tolerating Dick's bullshit until she just couldn't take anymore. I think she realized that the best way she could get under his skin was to not let him get under hers. Looks like it really worked too.

Didn't mean to stir all this up after the fact. Just bored at home with a stomach bug, feeling snarky, with way too much time on my hands apparently. Interesting debate though.

Hate / love to bring up a non Dick/Jen question again, but can anyone with the feeds shed a little light on what happened with the Dicklet and her ex (I guess) boyfriend. Did they ever reveal what he wrote in the first letter? Did she ever comment as to why there were no more photos of him? Has she professed her love for the 275 lb. thirteen year old girl we know as Nick?

Why if I don't like Jen as a person or a player, it's automatically assumed I'm all for Dick? Why can't I dislike both?

Why can't we see the grey in the fight instead of the black & white?

I'm rooting for Eric & have been the last month.

Why can't we all just get along?

Poor, poor, ailing Pierce -- I feel for you. Why does no one answer your burning question? PDS, President of the Daniele Fan Club, surely you can provide this information?

As for me, I am afraid I cannot answer the question. I cannot even contemplate the question. It's like asking what happened to Tonya after Yuri Zhivago met Lara. It's like asking what happened to ex-Mrs.-Danny-Moder, after Danny met Julia. It's like asking what happened to the sun after a tapestry of fireworks have exploded across the summer night's sky. A love like this comes but once in a lifetime, Pierce; it obliterates all that came before it. Dwell no more on the past. All that was B.N. (Before Nick). Sure, some lives were crushed; some eggs were broken, but, remember, Love is. It just is.

(Honestly, I haven't really paid attention; I think there was a tepid communal letter & a few pix during the first Daniele HOH, but after, I don't know, maybe Daniele's wearing the crips bandana on her bunny ear when talking to JC, combined with her devoting 7/8ths of her HOH blog to his Nickness finished the B.N. romance off, once and for all. But I'm not sure.)

Ah Lime23, your vision of love has allowed me to soar up & away from my ailing body and into the ethereal plane of true love. I just wish that Shakespeare could've have witnessed the spark between N & D, maybe then he could've written about love with some degree of poignance.

Don't you just love sarcasm?

And I am feeling much better. Thanks

On the same note, has anyone asked what happened to Smurfette after the Smurfs ceased to be on tv?

Regardless, Jen is a moron and Dick is a dick. Happy Schoonie?

Very! So happy that on Thursday I'm going to do a two-word recap. Kidding!

great recap, great debate.

pierce, i too loved the dick = vick comparison. awesome.

as for daniele and the case of the disappearing boyfriend: when she and amber went to the game show, didn't they give as Nick's title "Daniele's boyfriend" when they showed that he would be the one helping her out? i guess we can double check tonight, but my guess is that the old boyfriend is now replaced.

keep up good work schoonie!

~ Alexis

I hate evil dick! He's so gross!

If i had the chance i would set his face on fire and put it out with an ice pick

I have no Anger. I just had a vision, and god told me it would be ok if i did this!

Thisismarty, how is your statement, "If i had the chance i would set his face on fire and put it out with an ice pick" any different from what Dick has said to Jen, Kail, Amber, etc.? Your threat of violence is no different from his.

Schoonie, I can only imagine what those two words might be.... :)

Who the f*ck does Eric think he is? He is one arrogant son of a whore. He thinks he is the best looking guy in that house. Not that I would ever chase after Zach, but he is so much better looking than that hobbit named Eric. And after seeing the nude shots of Dick on RealityBBQ, he is even better looking than Eric. Eric bites. I hope Jessica is playing that midget.

I actually felt bad for Amber about that modeling stuff. She is a loser and is extremely sacreligious in my eyes, but that was just cruel. Doesn't she embarrass herself enough?

Did anyone see Amber on Power of Ten? She said "Hey, I like Michael Vick!" Drew Carey says "You won't when you get out of the house." Funny stuff.