Back in Copter Clearing, Desmond is pressing Frank for information about the picture of Des and Penny that Naomi was carrying. Frank professes not to be in the "Senior management" loop, but Desmond isn't convinced.

"You look me right in the eye and tell me you've never heard of Penelope Widmore."

Frank doesn't. Instead he engages in some eye-speak with Faraday.

"Fine. You don't want to tell me the truth? I'll find someone who will. See, when that," he points angrily to the 'copter,"Takes off, I'm on it."

Right then, Sayid traipses over the ridge, Charlotte in tow. No one else is with him.

Jack learns that Kate "Decided to stay."

Frank is more concerned with his own team.

"What happened to Miles?"

"I traded him."

"Traded him?"

"I promised you Charlotte and here she is."

"You cheated."

"Did I?"

"Yes, you did. Lucky for you, that guy's nuthin' but a pain in my ass."

Frank gathers his passengers for the return trip. Charlotte and Faraday both elect to stay on the island. Faraday warns Frank, strenuously, not to deviate at all from the bearing they took on their way in. No matter what.

"Roger that."

Jack hands Sayid a rifle (wouldn't a handgun be more useful and a bit...subtler?) and tells him to be careful.

"I don't have to talk you out of coming?"

"As much as I like helicopter rides, I think you have this one under control."

As he heads to the helicopter, he reminds Frank that he said he could take three. Along with himself and Desmond, he suggests that they take Naomi home. Frank agrees.

They load into the chopper and head for the boat. Pretty island. Nice music. Very "Last scene in Jurassic Park".

At what looks like a Veterinarian's office, Sayid and his bullet wound stumble in. A familiar (although I think that the powers that be didn't want us to recognize it right away based on what sounds like an attempt by the actor to disguise it a bit) voice instructs him to remove his shirt. As he sits down to have his shoulder tended to, the voice asks a question.

"Is she dead?"

"Yes."

"Why didn't she kill you?"

"She was trying to get information from me."

"What sort of information?"

"She wanted to know who I worked for. She wanted to know about you."

"Of course she did."

It's Ben! Ok, so we already recognized his voice, but I'll give the producers the exclamation mark anyway. It was a good try. The last few seconds of the show stand nicely on their own with no further commentary from yours truly.

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If there had been a Lens Crafters on the island I never would have left.

"Why are you crying? Because it hurts or because you were stupid enough to care for her? These people don't deserve our sympathies.. Need I remind you what they did the last time you thought with your heart instead of your gun."

"You used that to recruit me into killing for you."

"Do you want to protect your friends or not, Sayid? I have another name for you."

"But they know I'm after them now."

"Good."

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Comments (24)

msu11y28:

Great recap!

Maybe Ben's nemesis is Charles Widmore? We know he's anti-Desmond and may have had a hand in Desmond's disappearance, but I don't know what he has against the other survivors, so that may not make sense.

For a second it crossed my mind that the voice treating Sayid could be Christian Shepherd. Which would have quite possibly been a bigger OMG-WTF-my head-just-exploded moment than the inevitable Ben reveal. Does this mean Ben's one of the Oceanic Six? Maybe it was his coffin in the season 3 finale?

Too many questions! Looking forward to more of your recaps!

msu11y28:

OK, just want to amend my last comment-- Ben is clearly in hiding and doesn't want to be found. No way he can be one of the six.

Greybishop:

msu11y28 -
Thanks!

As for the Oceanic Six, we know for CERTAIN that Hurley and Sayid are 2 of the 6 and it's never stated but still quite obvious that Jack is too.

Kate and Ben are not certain at all. I would speculate that BOTH are not part of the Six, but that's just speculation.

Clair:

Loved your Time Displacement theory.

A picture of Sayid getting out of bed naked would have been nice. :)

neverenuftv:

Ben would not be one of the Oceanic Six as he was not on the plane to begin with.

It is assumed that Kate is one of the Oceanic 6 since we saw she got off the island.

Greybishop:

Clair -
Thanks. I'm not at all sure what the real answer is, but those three options seem the most likely.

neverenuftv -
I agree, Ben is unlikely to be one of the Oceanic Six, but I disagree that Kate is automatically one of them.

Given that a jail sentence is waiting for her in the real world (no statute of limitations on murder, so even time travel isn't a sure get out of jail free card) and given her ability to swap identities and evade the authorities, I'm guessing that she finds her way back to the real world by "unofficial" channels...say through the good offices of Passport Supplier Ben...

Just my guess.

Rvrctylady:

Geez, I love Lost as much as I hate Lost. I watch every episode and then read the recaps to see what I missed. I am glad others are more observant than I am.
The Oceanic 6 from the future glimpses show:
Jack, Hurley, Kate and Sayid. Ben is there, but he was not on the airplane when it crashed, so he cannot be counted. In one flash forward, Kate meets with Jack and refers to a "HE" being home and she had to get back to "HIM". Could this be Sawyer? I wonder who the other two are??? This show drives me crazy...

Merick:

Anyone else remember Nadia, Sayid's long-lost love that he is/was desperate to find, the reason he was on the plane? I'm very surprised she got no mention. I guess (hope) that's material for another Sayid flashforward. It seems like we will still have flashforwards for our Six immediately after they get home, and then more showing the conclusion of whatever conflict they are involved in in this episode, and then there are still flashbacks for some other characters that are supposed to happen, and then there's Libby...the flashback/forward schedule suddenly seems very crowded.

MasKarla:

I have a question about Locke not knowing about Hurley's having seen the cabin. Isn't that Locke's eye looking out at Hurley when Hurley tries to look into Jacob's cabin in Episode 1? Also, remember when Hurley tries to cover by saying "the cabin of the plane", but clearly Locke and Ben both know that Hurley is lying?

Greybishop:

MasKarla -
I don't know if that was Locke's eye or not. My hefty bet would be no, but others might disagree.

murphena:

I'm wondering if Oceanic 6 actually refers to those who just got off the island or if it refers to 6 people from the flight in some other capacity. The fact that the guy Sayid killed seemed a bit scared when he learned who Sayid was makes me think that there's more to the designation of Oceanic 6 than just merely being a survivor.

Clair:

If your Time Displacement theory is correct and approximately 16-17 years have passed, perhaps the authorities will allow "time served" on the island to go toward any jail time Kate ends up with...

Your theory would also explain Walt's tallness.

marla:

Great recap as usual. After a long day at work your picture captions were just what I needed to make me laugh. One question: I have been told that in the first episode this season when the man comes to question Hurley at the mental institution,when he leaves if you play it in slow motion, black smoke follows him.i erased it from my DVR, so I was just wondering if you saw that

greybishop:

Marla -
Thanks!
I can't take all the caption credit. This week about 1/3 are mine, the rest Flipit's. Most weeks he captions most, if not all, of the pix. I'm just fiddly detail recap guy.

As for the smoke following Abaddon as he leaves the asylum, I watched it several times after I heard that from someone and I don't see it.

FreewayShark:

Didn't anyone else find it strange that Frank didn't seem to know anything about who Sayid was? He even said that they spent all kinds of time studying the manifest, I would think that they would know something about who these people were.

chooch850:

Seems Ben DID have "piggies" insurance after all!

I wish more time was spent on exploring Ben's secret closet.

I also love your "time" explaination. The fact that Richard hasn't aged helps that theory along. ....and maybe the women can't get pregnant because of that very reason. That whole conversation with Jack and Frank, the Red Sox and 100 days makes me think harder than I want. That's your job GB! The late recap makes me wonder if you're 31 minutes a day behind too!.... as always, great recap.

geewits:

Great recap!! I laughed so hard at two of your photo captions:
"And If you have a clean band aid I'll give you a foot rub."
and
"Besides, he's adorable!"

I sat up in my chair when the time experiment happened. I had thought of something like that. And I LOVE time stuff. I'm so happy this show is improving and is fun again. Oh and I caught your hilarious expression "fleet footed shanty." Thanks for a good time!

lawyergal:

Here's my thought on the time travel/time passage issue. I think that the explosion at the end of season 2 (when nobody pushed the button) will be the event that changes the time continuum and that up until that time, time on the island was equal to time on the real world. That will mean that the real world is not 16-17 years ahead, but something like one-half of that. I don't think that they can make it a 16-17 year difference because of the flash forwards.

The reason the golfer started shaking when he heard that Sayid was one of the Oceanic 6 is because that guy must have known that his other cohorts were being killed off. So, as soon as Sayid said that, he knew he was in trouble.

I love that we are finally getting some answers but also getting just as many questions.

Greybishop:

Thanks, Chooch and geewits!

IF (and that's a big IF) the "time displacement" idea holds, it might be less than 16 years or perhaps more. They can easily fiddle the numbers to whatever they want.

One BIG problem with it is that if time is moving significantly slower on the island, then radio communications would be difficult. On the boat they'd hear what the island was transmitting reeeeaaallly slow and on the island everything transmitted from the outside world would sound sped up.

One idea I had after I posted was that the rescue party came prepared for the distortion with some sort of speed compensation built into their communications gear, and IF that's the case then Faraday's reaction might be to the fact that the differential is not what he expected, and perhaps it's getting worse. Maybe the not pushing the button really did have consequences after all!

greybishop:

Lawyergal -
I was writing something like that when you posted. You're probably right.

It's easy to fiddle something like the ratio of on island time vs. real world time.

If the rate is getting slower gradually, then yes, it's likely only around half the 16 years I postulated.

mushy:

Love the recap - you catch so much stuff I miss!

Very intrigued by the time theory but wondering something - has Danielle ever said WHEN she arrived on the island? The first season we found out the beacon had been broadcasting for 16 years but was there an actual date attached to it? If so, that would line up with how important the button pushing was and stopping it would tweak time on the island. Of course, it still doesn't explain why Richard hasn't seemed to age but Ben has. More questions than answers, as always.

msu11y28:

MasKarla (#9)...word on the street is that it was Christian Shepherd looking at Hurley from Jacobs cabin. Can't post the URL, but if you just Google "lost easter eggs christian" a bunch of sites containing stills will come up.

Assuming time on the island is (or was, until they failed to push the button) is the same as time in the "real world," shouldn't they be nearing the end of 2004? Which is when that huge tsunami hit. I think I read a while back that the producers DID say the tsunami would be a factor in the show, but I am not sure how legitimate the source was. GB, have you heard anything about this? Any thoughts?

At any rate, can't wait for tonight's episode!

Greybishop:

msu11y28 -

IF the producers incorporate the tsunami as a MAJOR event, then that will do great damage to the notion that they had a solid plan for the show back in 04 when it was first created, since the tsunami was something that happened long after the first episodes aired.

My guess is that it will be a minor thing, not a major one, particularly if the island really is in the Pacific, not the Indian Ocean where the tsunami was at its strongest. As a minor on island event, it is a good way to show the connetion to the real world.

As a major, plot affecting event it would be (in my view) an inappropriate use of a recent tragedy.

MariaIsabel:

Hello... Greybishop...Hello.
Its Wednesday Feb 27th, the day before the next episode and there is no recap for last weeks.

= (

This makes me sad.

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