OMG well I was realy surprized at the elimination!! I thought the crazy bitch should have gone home. ESPECIALLY after the judge talked about how classic the design was!! Screw the crazy granola bit$h

Its an empire waist, not umpire.

However, all was forgiven the moment you said "a dress made entirely of diarrhea." still laughing!

So glad the Vampire Malan went home! I think the story about his mom throwing his drawings on the floor is total BS. I thought he woud coast for awhile b/c he is obviously a "character." So proud of Bravo for ousting him and his shit dress early on. I can now forgive them for the Macy's Accessory Wall. Almost

no gasmgrrl Angela actually did say "umpire waist" even though its "empire." this is the woman whose dresses are mistaken for Yves St. Laurent? She doesn't even know how to say empire correctly?

Not to be a nitpicker here but I think Malan's hot mess of a dress was made of something slightly more substantial than diarrhea. Part of EdHill's charm, and what qualifies him to recap PR3, is his complete lack of knowledge about the fashion world. He dresses like a caveman for God's sake. But he should know his fecal terminology. It's his field of expertise.
All I could think when poor pathetic Malan was tearing up with shame was his mother sitting home and screaming in her Grey Goose soaked best "I told you so you little faggot!!!!!!"
If Woody Allen and (insert your favorite diva here) had a love child it would be Vincent. He and Alison, er, Angela together are crazier than a bag of squirrels. I think the case could have definitely been made for Angela's ouster. The challenge was 1)Make a dress 2) Teamwork. It could've gone either way. Expect much insanity to ensue thanks to keeping Angela. Surely the producers saw something in her that meant more drama and entertainment than they did in the eccentric and much maligned Malan.
My favorite dress was the one made by plunging neckline lady. You see, when somebody tells an old women with 5 kids "Don't make me a white dress and don't accentuate my gigantic knockers..." that's exactly what she's gonna do.

Oh, good call on the Keith/Taxi Driver business. I'm pretty sure I can't stand him. But thanks for the memories. Aah, to be a 12 year old hooker again....

Okay - it's an empire waist, but it's pronounced with a French accent (ahm-peer) because it was popularized by Napoleon's wife, Josephine. I can't stand both Angela and Vincent and Malan was growing on me, but I think it would have been hard to justify sending Angela home when Vincent had refused to allow her to work on the dress. And Malan's dress was hideously ugly, but still, I was hoping they would reward daring design gone horribly wrong, versus no design at all.

And what's with the big scandal they keep teasing us with?

For someone who fancies herself a clothing designer, Laura wears some of the most vulgar and inappropriate clothing I’ve ever seen. How many nip-slips of her deflated breasts must we be subjected to? It would be nice to see Allison (the cute young blond) in the same revealing outfits, but Heidi Shatner is obviously pulling rank, and refusing to share the screen with another attractive blond woman. Seriously, look at the group shots...they may as well hide Allison in your sub-woofer.

I truly felt sorry for Malan when he told that story about his wicked mother, and then proceeded to cry. A young boy’s love of woman’s clothing: the love that must never speak it’s name. When he lamented his lack of friends, I immediately thought that maybe he should rethink that arrogant prick persona he works so hard. There’s only room in this world for one Michael Kors. Vera Schlong...I mean Wang, please take note. I’ve watched Michael Kors, I’ve ate pumpkin pie filling that resembles Michael Kors, and madam, you’re no Michael Kors!

Did anyone notice during the preview of next week’s show, who the guest judge is? Could it be? Ivanka!

Angela deserved to go home. The Svan was really disappointed as she made no real effort to work.

Argh that elimination was so irritating I created a sign in name to leave a comment!
Angela should have gone home instead of Malan! He did mess up his dress, but Angela did not make any attempt to do any work. She didn't even PRETEND to do any sketches because she was too confident she could buddy up and get by with Kayne. At least Malan had an idea... which Tara picked to lead! And maybe Vincent wasn't letting Angela help but she's so obnoxious I wouldn't have wanted her near me either. I just think it's ridiculous she gets to stay and she didn't even make an effort with this challenge.

This season's designers are showing promise for great fashion and great drama. Milan's ouster was a jaw dropper but I do think the judges chose the lesser of two losers. Angela being 'shocked' that Vincent called her out means she is not only a Feminazi but a Femimoron.

I was glad to see that they got new beds.

hb

EdHill, YOU couldn't be more wrong about Angela's behavior! I mean, come on! She tries to glom on to Kayne and coast to an easy victory, and when she can't, she sabotages Vincent's effort. He may be a mental case, but Tara and Nina liked his dress, despite Angela's lack of effort. Angela should have went home because the TASK WAS ABOUT TEAMWORK, which Malan and his partner had! The only good thing to come out of this is that Angela has been found out to be a fraud and she will probably be gone in a week or two.

Alison Kelly is my dark horse to win the whole thing!

That was the most depressing reality tv exit I've ever seen.

Put in my place by a slutty_whore.

Story of my life....

ANd LQ I don't dress like a caveman. I dres Like Captain Caveman.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to compete in this weeks Laff-A-Lympics.

EdHill, when I picture you all I see is Fred Flintstone. Minus the classy tie.

It was interesting to see how Mrs. Mullet and I differed on this episode. I put the blame squarely on Vincent for being a complete tool and not allowing Angela to do anything. My wife just kept calling Angela a bitch and saying she needed to go. I seems like the posts here have that same gender breakdwon.

The minute I saw that the hem on Milan's dress wasn't sewn, I knew he was the next to be "auffed".

I think I will miss Malan. I feel like his "prick" demeanor was maybe just a defense mechanism, and just as he was starting to get comfortable and warm up he was booted.

As far as the Angela/Vincent debate, I am on Team Vincent, if only because I feel like he is mentally unstable, while Angela is just a bitch. I think that someone with a little tact and one or two people skills could have worked WITH Vincent, maybe talking him out of some of his weirder ideas, while Angela instead started antagonizing him from the moment the challenge began (probably from annoyance at blatantly being picked last). I mean, the woman clearly wasn't interested in doing any work--no sketches? But sketches were, um, part of the assignment!--and then was bitter that she couldn't coast through. It would have served her right to be eliminated. (Personally, I haven't found anything I've seen from her yet particularly interesting, or even attractive.)

Secretly though, I'm rooting for Laura to win.

Vincent is crazier than Angela is a bitch. And that dress did make the model look like a space cadet. And it was puke green. Vincent is the worst kind of drama queen.

He should have gone.

Poor Malan. Poor, poor Malan. Alone in his cave with his cadre of multicutural models.

I was surprised they eliminated Malan, even though he had the worst dress. They gave Santino plenty of passes on bad dresses, because he had potential. I'll miss that fake accent.

Also, why did Angela say she had never designed a gown when she was blathering on in her audition video about making dresses that were mistaken for Oscar de la Renta. Did she mean she could only copy gowns?

"All I could think when poor pathetic Malan was tearing up with shame was his mother sitting home and screaming in her Grey Goose soaked best "I told you so you little faggot!!!!!!"" Lizardqueen, you crack me up! You are so right. Poor guy but the dress was the worst of the bunch. Personally,I think a case could have been made for sending Uli home as Miss USA said she didn't want a plunging neckline and that neckline definitely plunged.
I thought Laura and Michael's dress was the best though Kayne's looked the most pageant like (gee, I wonder why that was?).
Considering what Vincent did last time, I was really surprised at how nice this looked. I didn't like the sleeves either but the color was nice. Of course, it also has a plunging neckline so Vincent didn't listen to Miss USA either!
As for the whole teamwork thing, designers are divas and asking them to work together is asking for trouble. Not that any reality show wants trouble, of course. While Angela was trying to coast, Vincent didn't make any effort to work with her so he had no teamwork either. I don't see Vincent or Angela winning this competition but it's fun watching them try!

Damn reality TV show editing. I wanted Malan gone last week, no questions asked. Now this week they go and make him human. Bastards. Maybe they'll bring him back when this freakin' scandal they've been plugging forever happens and they have to send someone home. If not, he'll be back, I'm sure. He'll be the Daniel of PR 4.

Keith is one pervy, creepy dude. I thought he was gonna lick Miss USA.

Malan's crying and his confession that he'd never had many friends made me feel really guilty for calling him out as a freak the past couple of weeks. Now I feel like a bad person... OK, I'm over it.

Angela is a Bitch and should have gone home. And while empire waist is often pronounced with a French accent (making it sound more like ahmpire), she is from quote, unquote Hicksville, OH and pronounced it like an asshole trying to sound cultured with a French accent. Which is why it sounded like she said umpire. I hate her.

And Uli needs to change it up or go soon, because so far the dress that she herself wore to the audition, the dress she designed in the first challenge, and the pageant dress have all been essentially the same design with different fabric. She's boring.

My $.02 on the Vincent/Angela debate:

I spent most of the episode thinking Vincent was the prick. He refused to let Angela participate at all. How can it be her fault if she didn't even contibute? While it was clear to me that Angela sucked (I disliked her immediately after watching her audition video, and more so after her failed attempt to latch onto Kayne), Vincent seemed to be the one to blame.

However, when they got in front of the judges, all she did was tear Vincent and the dress down. She was so harsh about the dress that the judges felt the need to actually defend it. And even then, she wouldn't stop arguing about how terrible it was. Either defend the dress or defend yourself for not having had the opportunity to contribute. Pointing out every flaw to the judges was lame. She should have been auf'ed for that alone.

I think they are both incompetent and neither one will last long. But when it comes down to it, the challenge was to design a dress, I imagine it was turned into a team event because it's very labor intensive to make a pageant dress and they would all need the help. Top designers aren't supposed to be team players they're supposed to be team leaders, so in that respect both of them sucked.

My thoughts:

Prettiest dress: Laura and Michael (although Miss USA did expressly say "no white"...oh well). So far, these two are my favorite--she's not the best dresser but has good ideas, and he's great at construction and seems creative and willing to learn.

Then again, I don't know what to look for in a pageant dress--I wasn't too fond of the winner, but then again, it might look great on stage, from a distance. My sister and I were saying that maybe pageant gowns are like dance costumes: you choose them for the effect they'll have on an audience (at a distance from you on stage), rather than for how they look up close.

I really thought Katherine would go home, as she's more boring (at least thus far). Malan was totally humanized AND did the classy thing by saying HE should be eliminated, and therefore I'm kinda sad to see the little greaseball go.

About Vincent and Angela: yes, he's a nutjob and isn't going to last much longer. But: he did do an actual SKETCH, and the finished product wasn't the worst by far; AND I think he would've let her help if she hadn't acted like such a bee-otch and verbally ripped apart everything he was doing. Also, maybe she should have been more persistent with wanting to help--when you're partner's in la-la land already, it probably wouldn't hurt to clearly state that it's your project too.
IMHO, Angela should have been the one to go. How far will a designer get if she DOESN'T SKETCH? I mean, you don't have to be GREAT at it, but I imagine it would be pretty important 1) for your own reference when you're constructing, and 2) when you really are pitching to someone who wants you to custom make them a dress.

Back to studying for me (groan).

I felt really terible for Malan. I hate seeing a man cry- it puts me over the edge. When he said "I don't have any friends and I don't fit in anywhere" I felt so bad for the guy! (not to mention that I feel like a raging bitch for saying mean things about him in the forums). Some people looked genuinely sad to see him go, however. So I am hoping he made some friends here. (God, co-dependent, much?)
I don't really know a thing about designing and creating clothes, but I do know that in almost all visual arts classes you always sketch first, and then create your project (whether it's storyboarding, sketching, whatever). I think by her not sketching first, the dress can turn out a million different ways (because she never had to nail down exactly how it would look) and it is no skin off of her back, She never committed to a certain design, and that seems unfair to me. Does anyone know what in the hell I am talking about? Here is what I am trying to say... She is thinking whimsical and playful- as she's working on it, the dress starts to look more severe and conservative, so she changes her whole game plan and no one knows because she doesn't have a sketch she should be following. There! That's what I was trying to say.
And for this, I think she should get the boot.

I think EdHill has written the funniest recap of any show I have ever read on TVGasm (and that's saying a lot because I love B-Side's sense of humor).
The picture of the shit-monster had me laughing out loud----and I am not normally one for potty-humor! Pretty damn funny though-
EdHill, I think you are the PERFECT person to recap this show- we don't need a "fashion expert" we need someone who writes what we were all thinking during the show. This website is like talking about the show with a hundred of your funniest friends!

And yeah, btw- Ed- the shit monster was just about the funniest fucking thing I have ever seen.

Can we talk about Vera Wang's bangs? They look just like when a three year old discovers the glory of scissors. What is that all about?

maybe it was the magic of editing, but we only saw Angela trashing the dress, not defending herself for not being allowed to assist Vincent. I thought he was acting like a spoiled brat the entire time and I too would have been seething if I were his partner and had to just sit back and watch him blunder about. He was no team player and should have been called out on it too.

I also felt sad for Malan, knew his arrogance was a defense mechanism from the get-go. But the dress was definitely worse than Vincent's, and it was the right decision to send him home over his partner.

Poor Malan, that goodbye interview was sad. He has no friends!! He cried! His mom is a mean old nasty bitch! I felt bad for him. But DAMN, that dress was hideous. He did deserve to be Auf'd. EdHill, that shit monster pic is hilarious. I laughed out loud too, at work. Good thing not a lot of employees are here today.

Anyways, I might check out the Miss Universe pageant Sunday night to see what the final product of that Kayne dress looks like.

For someone so into fashion, you should know how to pronounce the terms. Even if you pronounced it the American way, it's "empire" (like Empire Strikes Back). Don't go all French with the first syllable then American with the second, you just sound stupid!

I was torn over which should go home, but I'm sure Angela will be gone soon enough since she can't sew or sketch.

Although Milan was pretty creepy ...I definatley thought Angela should have gone this week.
And the sob story he told at the end really made me wish he stayed! Poor guy! Anyway, I do agree with other posters here, Angela really didn't make any effort whatsoever with Vincent. just kind of washed her hands of him and the project as soon as he called her "Alicia"! At least Milan and his partner worked somewhat well together, and he fully took the blame of the horridness of the dress, and he definatley has potential in the future.
Ahhhh oh well. Just another example of the road Project Runway seems to be taking lately..."kick off the less interesting and more talented people and opt for max drama". :(

By the way, Vincent is the most neruotic Italian I have ever seen. He rivals Woody Allen.

biancaneve- i'm not sure what the twist is, but i heard keith ripped some of his design ideas from an elle website or something like that. say it with me, "SCAND A LOUSSSSSSS!"

and little known fact: tara connor, miss USA, is apparently only 5'5"...she looks a lot much taller on tv

I'm actually quite sad to see Malan go. Not only for his talk of having few friends and being shot down by his mother (he seemed like a good guy), but he was pretty much the only "character" on this season--well, likable character (let's not forget Vincent). And I think if his dress hadn't been brown (stupid Miss USA wanting earth tones) it wouldn't have been as hideous. Poor guy. I will miss him.

Not really sure who to blame on the Vincent/Angela issue. They're both quite crazy, I think we can safely say that.

Great recap, Ed. The picture and caption of Keith and the shit monster made my stomach hurt. In a good way. I guess.

LQ seriously...apparently hideous bangs the new way to say "I am a very important and extremely edgy designer."

Okay, what was up with pageant-girl's choices? Was it just me, or did she choose a bunch of people who gave really scary presentations?

Clearly Vincent is on his way somewhere with straight-jackets and tapioca pudding. But his self-imposed restraining order was the BEST. There are a few people I really want to say that to: "Okay, you need to stay three feet away from me now."

Angela's a pain but the word to describe her is in no way "feminazi"...I was somewhat confused/offended by that.

Anyway to send Malan home, the judges blatantly turned a blind eye to the fact that at least two teams ignored the clients wishes - NO WHITE and NO BOOBS! - and Angela did zero work on purpose. That bites.

keith now fills the "creepy relative that nobody invites to family outings, but he somehow finds out about them" void that my dear santino left behind last season.

and i agree that malan should not have been eliminated. angela pisses me off already, with those flaring nostrils and lack of effort...she looks a bit like kara from last season

i must admit that i do like jeffrey, though he's kind of a pompous ass, and i also like robert because his dress in the first challenge was adorable. sadly, no real favorites like nick last season

The PR people have been pimping this whole scandal thing pretty hard. I hope they deliver the goods and expose some shocking, egregious offense...like one of the male contestants revealing that he’s straight. ALL design is somewhat derivative, so I don’t know how they can bust someone for copying something from a magazine or website.

I wonder if Jeffery the giraffe realizes that the word “Feminazi” was popularized by Rush Limbo. I don’t see those two hanging out at the same country club.

antebellum - I have to agree - if Malan's dress had been a pretty color instead of brown, it wouldn't have looked nearly so ugly and heavy. I'm sorry he's gone and only consoled by the thought that Angela and Vincent will be leaving soon also. If it had been a team elimination, I'm sure they would have been the ones to go.

I read somewhere (that Chicago Tribune interview with Tim Gunn? I forget) that someone kept sabotaging the other designers by messing with their sewing machines or something like that

http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/7660806.html

Here is a link to what the scandal is most likely about.

Sorry...posted too soon. Keith does have some sort of rebuttal at the end but the sketches still looky mighty suspicious to me.

project runway just lost an incredible character. yes malan's dress was a bomb, but at least he tried. they chose to keep the wicked witch of the west for drama effect, it was obvious she did nothing. i will miss malan.
ps. tim gunn is a prick, he could have helped direct malan, he didn't even notice the unfinished bottom of the gown. he lost all credibility after bad mouthing santino.

This is becoming a trend for our little PR... keeping the drama for max effect in favor of talent, which is fine because it is a TV SHOW. I mean, if there was no Wendy Pepper to annoy the masses, would Mr. Santino Rice come into our lives? So, let us bow in honor to our dear Ms. Pepper for screwing over Kevin Johnn and (who she really told the truth about because he had no leadership ability) and our dear Austin Scarlett (who was going to be successful after the show anyway) and enjoy her going down in flames, in much the same fashion as Santino. The cream will rise to the top and, ultimately, the real battle will be between two designers, the last one being dragged along for dramatic effect.

Two things---I thot the beauty queen said she was one of the SHORTEST contestants, that that's y she wanted a dress to elongate her? (at 5.5, that would make more sense)

also, the promos they aired last week that refer to the scandal where Tim Gunn is shown saying 'we're goin' to have to ask u 2 leave' are shown during 'this SEASON on Project Runway', not during the previews for the next episode so it's hard to tell when the scandal incident will air.

pr Malan. Tim Gunn said in his blog that this should send a message out that contestants are NOT kept on solely based on personality (oh really? how does that explain Santino thn?) Nywys, Vincent (Woody Allen + Rick Moranis) is crazy but Angela is 1 annoying bitch who can't even sketch, that's almost as bad as not knowing how 2 use the sewing machine!

Everyone keeps saying that because Angela doesn't do sketches, she should be the one to go home, as a designer who doesn't do sketches isn't much of a designer. But remember in the finale last season, when Tim Gunn visited Chloe, she told him that she "doesn't do sketches," and that she lets everything come naturally.

Regardless, Angela is still a manipulative bitch, and was probably afraid to show Tara a sketch for fear it would be rejected.

And you're right Tati. Remember the "I'm not your bitch, BITCH," line from Top Chef that we kept anticipating every episode, and didn't get until more than halfway through the season. This scandal might be awhile off. Damn Bravo.

Tati (#26), you're right, she said she was second-smallest...I think that was just a typo in the recap. (PS, your posts crack me up, they're like really long text messages!)

Well, she wore it tonight without major alterations.

I felt terrible when Malan was eliminated. I agree with some of the other posters in that his initial arrogance was a defense mechanism. I wish they'd given him a pass and eliminated the two loons instead. Vincent and Angela deserved each other. But I'd say that V is worse. He couldn't cope with giving Angela something to do. How is he supposed to have a successful business if he can't manage people?

I've got Michael as the one who will sneak in under the radar. That guy's got a lot of talent.

We'll miss you Malan.

Is it me or does the evening gown Miss USA wore in the Miss Universe contest look nothing like the one she chose??

http://www.missuniverse.com/delegates/2006/files/US-photo-gown.html

I haven't found a good close up of the dress, but if you check out the slide show from the Boston Globe's online addition today you can see it was Kayne's dress.

http://www.boston.com/ae/tv/gallery/miss_universe_final_look/
http://www.boston.com/ae/tv/gallery/miss_universe_final_look?pg=16
http://www.boston.com/ae/tv/gallery/miss_universe_final_look?pg=20
http://www.boston.com/ae/tv/gallery/miss_universe_final_look?pg=22

Ah so she used it in the interview section. Is it just me or does it lay across her tummy at little funny?

As for the whole Malan v. vincent thing, they both rub me the wrong way, but I think that Malan is kind of starting out on his fashion career, where it feels like Vincent is trying to jump start something that failed (and for good reason) Isn't he married and have kids? *shudder* Anyways, Malan would have progressed through the show I think whereas we all know that vincent's days are numbered.

And Laura scares me.

So I must admit, I watched Miss Universe last night and Tara/Miss USA did wear the dress Kayne & Robert made. It looked great on her and totally made her look taller. It was the same, I think they only fixed the back by adding the same 'jewelry' detail to be consistent with the front. She wore it for the evening gown portion of the show (the contestants keep that on until the winner is crowned). Lame Sean of Apprentice 5 and freaking SANTINO were judges!! Gotta love the blatant Trump & NBC-ness. Such a legitimate contest.

This was the first Project Runway episode I have ever seen (I know, I know...) and I am ready to comment! Angela should have been tossed out on her little tutu ass. What a manipulative woman! Vincent seems to be quite eccentric and crazy, but I don't blame him for telling her to stay out of his way. From the beginning of the designing process, she did not even want to TRY to sketch a gown because she was too busy trying to buddy up with Kayne. Obviously if she was the last person to be picked as a partner, there is something wrong with this person. Only due to poor luck did Vincent get stuck with her and it seemed he was well aware that she did not want to take any initiative on the assignment. Suddenly when it was time to start the construction of the gown, she started insulting his design, saying how it looked like something she designed in college. I thought she said she had never designed a gown before... I also feel bad for Malan because while his dress looked like lumpy fungus on his poor model, he had by far the most ambitious design. PS: I saw this morning that Miss USA took 4th runner up in the Miss Universe pageant and she did in fact have on Kayne's design.

I thought Ms. USA's dress bowed out in the back, ity was nothing compared to Ms. Puerto Rico's- the chains!---

I'm hoping Malan gets to return when they kick off ____ for copying designs, they let Andrea return to Top Chef, so fingers crossed---bring Malan back!!!!!

Vincent vs. Angela-- Team Vincent

I, too, tuned in for the end of the Miss Universe pageant just to see if she did wear the dress. I was glad to see she did. It looked good for a pageant, although I couldn't see someone wearing that dress to anything else (except a high school prom, maybe.)

# 57, hardly said: "I'm hoping Malan gets to return when they kick off ____ for copying designs, they let Andrea return to Top Chef, so fingers crossed---bring Malan back!!!!!"

THAT would be a great idea, i hope they do that! altho i did see Malan on Good AM America or 1 of those shows, talking abt his ouster fr the show, would that matter if he does come back?

"Vincent vs. Angela-- Team Vincent"

me, too!! Vincent no piece of cake, but u can prolly chaulk it up to him being crazy, whereas Angela is just plain ANNOYING. pr Kayne, the look on his face whn Ang. was hounding him said it all!

tvtvtv---funny u mention text messages b/c i don't even have a cellphone! the word shortcuts evolved fr lengthy emails.

jelodi97- i think you're right about michael...he's a solid designer. my prediction is that ula will win the whole thing. she's had great designs for the past 2 challenges, but has gone relatively under the radar as well, especially in the first challenge- her dress was great

OMG! Although I think Malan is a pretentious asswipe and his dress showed it... I don't think he deserved to go home. I mean come on... Satanino from last season was given chances time and time again for over-designing or getting too damn creative. WTF?! And that BITCH, Angela... Alison.. whatever... needs to go home. She is no Feminazi... SHE IS THE GUNK AT THE BOTTOM OF GARBAGE CANS!

Does (did) Malan remind anyone else of Dr. Evil? The jacked up accents. Being raised by a callous mother in Taiwan (vs. the summers in Rangoon). As you read Dr. Evil's description of his childhood, you can almost hear Malan's voice:

"The details of my life are quite inconsequential... very well, where do I begin? My father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner from Belgium with low grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. My mother was a fifteen year old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet. My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. My childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When I was insolent I was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds- pretty standard really. At the age of twelve I received my first scribe. At the age of fourteen a Zoroastrian named Vilma ritualistically shaved my testicles. There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it's breathtaking- I highly suggest you try it."

Thanks for the laughs all, esp. you Edhill--oh how I loved bazoombas and the shit monster . . . in the end, I too feel bad for Malan's ouster, and I do think angela was a using beee-otch, she didn't do a sketch because she didn't want to lead a team, still hoping to link up with a winner . . . lame . . . and vincent is too freaky for his own good, he seems the spastic, "I'm an artist" type, yet he's lacking in thought or self control.

"Sew the hem, Bitch!" is what I would have said, and "shut up while you do it!"

I saw the pagent end and I thought Miss Japan was robbed. Tara's dress was okay, but the hair--did she do it herself last minute, it was bad and brassy!

So great to see you back, LQ!

Are there any screen caps of Tara from the pagaent? I'd love to see how she looked in the winning dress.

Oddly enough, the judges told Milan many of the same things they told Santino, yet he got to stay to the end of the show! Milan got robbed!

Cooter! There I said it...

KH

KH, you are always such a riot!

There's a whole site on the internet with all the contestants and their various outfits--note the hair, I must say I preferred the ash blonde she had on the PR . . .

Angela got a raw deal. The editing for this show was clearly biased, intent on making someone into a demon. I didn't see Angela doing anything other than trying to come up with combinations that would work--a workable team, a workable dress, etc.

You guys are really buying into the fake drama of this show.

I, too, thought Malan should not have had to leave. But Angela's behavior was misrepresented.

Nobody noticed how Miss USA tried to be a gay man at the end when she said with a full head tilt and snap that she's going to "work that gown?" Of course the damn thing looks like an 80s prom dress. I really love Kayne and pageant wear is not my favorite genre of clothing. I can't imagine what I'd wear if I were walking down a pageant aisle but I can imagine it would probably be something that looked like cotton candy with a necklace, I guess. But Tara Conner herself bugged the shit out of me and she wouldn't know fashion if it hit her in the aw shucks southern accent, Farah Fawcett hairstyle. I was pissed that one of the flowier ones didn't win. And re: Mulan, well, that's a shame. The guy at least put an effort forward to create something unique. He certainly isn't the most annoying designer ever. I honestly think Angela came away from the whole thing with no accountability. Whenever she appeared in the establishing scenes she skirted any real effort or work. She didn't make a sketch, she said that she didn't have any ideas regarding gowns and she tried everything she could to undermine crazy Vincent. Whether we like him or not (which I don't) and whether Angela liked him or not, he was the boss in the challenge. I didn't think she made his craziness any less crazy. She could have helped him and saved face. Perhaps Feminazi is a horrible statement but she was pretty bitchy and stupid.

I, too, think Angela was set up. It's interesting how so many of the women posting here are willing to overlook very bad behavior in Vince and Malan--those poor damaged darlings--but get terribly uprighteous about a female designer who says what she thinks. Girls, it's OK to question your boss--especially when his last design involved a basket for a hat.

Never saw the show before. With God's help I never will again.

What makes a good pagaent gown? Dunno. They didn't tell us. All I know is that you don't use gloves and empire waists. (She DID say "umpire", BTW.) How do you think through such a challenge? Dunno. They didn't say.

Is $300 enough for fabric? Dunno. Can anybody design anything worthwhile in 30 minutes? Doesn't seem like it -- it took me that long to write THIS sorry post.

They all buy fabric and all of a sudden it's a dress. How the hell did they DO that? THAT would be interesting! How did that clown make fabric look like a log, anyway? Dunno.

She didn't want people to look at her boobs when she jiggled down the runway - she wanted them to look at HER. Noble and cool. So why didn't anybody say ONE WORD about that brown peek-a-boo! look-at-my-boobs-hanging-out-of-my-gown gown that guy made? Why didn't HE go home?

Howcum they only showed each completed dress for, like, 3 seconds?

Angela. ANGELA! She got off the funniest line of the night - I moved one-and-a-half feet back, now YOU move one-and-a-half feet back! Both an offer to meet the crazy guy half-way, and an acknowledgement that it was never gonna happen. The last time someone said that to me we both fell down laughing for five minutes. That's when I knew Vincent was dangerous.

How could you get rid of Angela? She's the worst-dressed elephant in the entire circus! (And I lived through the Sixties AND the Eighties!) That should be enough to keep her around a few more weeks!

Two quick questions - the George Jetson sleves on Vincent's dress. Wuzupwidat? The Miss Universe or Miss Out-Of-The-Universe contest?

Did the judges merely hear Vincent Van Go-Go's claim that Angela ruined him for women forever, or were they privy to her many attempts to help? And why didn't she mention the ongoing brush-off when the conversation got around to teamwork?

Is this a personality contesy or a design contest? Who cares if Angela'snostrils flare if she is the best candidate for whatever it is they are driving for?

A reward which they never mentioned even once, by the way.

Whatthe hell - I hope she wins. Maybe I'll get to see her nostrils flare.

Y the henfest on Angie? Vincent sucks.