Just to let you know.

There is no emo-music on the Garden State soundtrack.

Mostly Indie stuff.

Just to let you know.
And if I'm getting the impression that you guys think the OC suck...then..
You are absolutely 100% correct. Congratulations.

Just. Don't confuse emo with indie.
Please.
For the love of god.

Ty - I hate to break it to you, but most emo is actually indie. I'm sorry, Garden State is very very emo. Doesn't mean that it's bad though. But in the case of The OC, they use emo so pretentiously that I can't help rolling my eyes every time it pops up on the soundtrack.

no seriously, the garden state soundtrack has no emo on it. the OC does use emo. But the garden state soundtrack has no emo. just because it's whiny doesn't make it emo.

Good re-cap. After this episode I am convinced the Seth character is GAY. There is no other explanation... at the end of last season I thought how the hell is anyone gonna sail more then few miles offshore in a 20ft catamaran dingy.

But for me any man that moves 1000mi away after finally getting a hottie like Summer to acknowledge him in private, public and family because his male "friend" moved a lousy 40mi up the 57 freeway has no other excuse.

I don't know. I think Garden State has emo. I mean, the Iron and Wine cover of the Postal Service's "Such Great Heights" sounds emo enough on its own, never mind the fact that it's roots are a Death Cab for Cutie side project.

I had to look up what emo was. Does that make me so not cool?

Speaking of The O.C. and gayness, I hope you all will check out my Seth Cohen slash fic:

http://jimtreacher.com/archives/001163.html

I am currently spending my work day watching General Hospital, a classic soap if ever there was one. Anyway, a baby just died during birth and when the biological father was told he let out a very Mischa Barton yelp of scripted sadness/anguish. Then they showed the outline of the guy who was going to be the everyday daddy holding the dead baby behind a curtain, very Frankenstein "It's Aliiiive" super creepy, yet they were playing Sara Mclaughlin's "Angel" in the background so it just made it sad. Anyway, the moral of the story is Mischa Burton sucks.

Wow! Who knew she had enough strength to pick up a chair & throw it?

I hate The OC. I heart emo. I hate that The OC has an emo soundtrack, as if any of those kids would listen to emo if they were real people. Mischa Barton in "concert clothes" for Rooney gave me my best laughs all year. Yuck.

NO ONE in Orange County would ever call it the OC, for fear of serious butt-whoopage.

The OC is a great show and any of you who dont appreciate suck ass. If you have seen this show since last season then you obviously didnt think it sucked last year or else you wouldn't have wasted your time. And about Mischa Barton, who can you say she sucks? I dont see your ass on the t.v. And about that clip...it was ballsy. How many of us have just wanted to scream or punch or kick something because were upset? It makes sense, at least to me and most of the world. When you get upset most people cry. When it all builds up you just want to scream. I saw that and i just wished i could do the same sometimes. So while you argue about how its soundtrack is EMO and not EMO and Indie and not Indie and discuss how Seth is gay and Mischa sucks..the rest of the normal world is just noticing how it relates to them. The things that really matter. Who gives a shit if the soundtrack plays the "wrong" type of music for its episodes. If you have such a problem, dont watch...dont listen. No ones asking you too. All that we ask is that you stop your bitching. If you have such a problem go and watch re-run episodes of futurama or some other cartoon. More your style maybe. Ass

I just came here to watch the clip of Mischa again and then i read all of these comments. The O.C. is an awesome show, thats why it was one of the most anticipated premieres of the year. Mischa Barton is a great actress, anyone who thinks otherwise is an asshole. This show is supposed to be understandable, obviously some of you dont understand it. Yea, some of the stories are a little far fetched for some people but shit happens. And whoever was talking about WHY she did it? Hmm the producers and writers told her to...she played it well. Hell, if i had a 4 million dollar house and the love of my life ran out with a girl he impregnated, my mom married a man whose old enough to be my grandfather, and my dads dating a girl barely 5 years older than me...I'd be pretty damn angry too. I'd throw much more than my table and chair in, i'd probably toss my mom too. If you dont like the show, dont watch. And dont be an ass and criticize every little detail, i mean dont you guys have better things to do like pick your nose, study middle school home economics and masturbate? Ask your moms to drive you to the mall so you can g shop at kids abercrombie and limited too. Seriously, get lives.

Re: Mischa Barton is a great actress,

I think she peaked sometime around Lost and Delirious, and has been downhill ever since.

Angelina and Larissa,

Since you are either the same person or are using the same computer, I will address this to both of you. Umm, chill out. If you can't criticize and have fun with the shows that you love, you have to loosen up. I suggest you take your own advice and not come to TVgasm if you are just going to be an ass and criticize every detail.

Larissa,

I think it's great that you relate to Mischa Barton. Tell me, how is your eating disorder going?

haha b-side...And how is the 7th grade? hit puberty yet or are you still checking the mirror everyday for your very first pubic hair?

Whoa, what's that sound?

Oh, it's just about twelve jokes going right over Larissa's head.

Why does everyone thing Mischa Barton is SO hot? As my boyfriend put it.. "yeah she looks good... for a JC Penney model". Couldn't have said it better myself.

and for all you sorry people trying to defend your 'emo' or 'indie' music... um, get a life.

All the squabbling on this post (which includes me in surprisingly squabble-tastic form) means one thing: nothing good can come from emo music discussions.

I agree with J-unit, larissa, you most certainly need to chill out.. besides it's just a show
who says you can't criticize?
I personally believe the acting is somewhat ridiculous, and ought to be critized, and not simply to be assumed as grand piece of acting, and certainly not on the grounds that you might relate to the emotional development of the charatcer.
If nothing else this show will mostly fall into the " what ever happened too.. " category. As the 90210, and Dawson creek had their teeny bop generations I believe the OC will follow through it's presently trendy show status only to fade away due to recycled soap opera plots of the misfortunes of the fabulous lifes of 4 million dollar homeonwers, with troubled teens in love triangles into the " what ever happened too.."

I love it!

i was really dissapointed by the first episode of the oc... yes mischa or wtv sucked at acting and seths mom is anoerexic like no other.. i mean damn... and all the sweaty guys in the begining SO CHEESY... HORRIBLE EPISODE... WORST ONE YET.

This is where I defend my viewership of The O.C.

1) Yes, the acting is sub-par. But what is par? Anthony Hopkins, Denzel Washington? Come on, it's a weekly Thursday night soap opera, you can't expect stellar performances from a cast where a third of the members can't even drink. And that matters somehow. Because actors drink. A lot.

2) Emo music vs. Indie music. I think that attempts to genrify music are just attempts to become the Grandmaster Professor of Music and therefore collect all the cool points. People who think they know, don't. I listen to what I like, and The OC has introduced me to some bands that are quite enjoyable. Enough said.

3) Storylines and shit. Okay of course the storyline is ridiculous it's a soap opera. The point is to get you emotionally involved with the characters, and in order to keep it interesting they make things gradually more... insane. To even stay alive as an hour-long "drama" on network tv, you almost are forced to subscribe to this formula to avoid being canceled after one and a half seasons.

4) Good looking characters. You have to have good looking characters. That's it. People will literally not accept awkward teens unless they live obviously awkward lives. Who wants to see ugly rich kids? Not me. Who wants to see ugly poor kids? No one.

5) I win. And rest my case.

Could somebody please tell me what emo is?
i honestly have no idea?
where did it come from?

emo is gay. all the people who like emo are just a bunch of whining little school girls who need crapy music to justify there shitty whining exsistence.ouch...i cannot spell ....wait i am whining that must make me emo.. crap i hate my little school girl self

I don't see why somebody up there had to drag Futurama and cartoons into this. To each his own.

I'm more Indy than you are punk. Or is it I'm more punk than you are emo ? Whatever, I'm different and all that stuff, like all my friends.

i wouldn't care if indie did emo up the butt. the only thing that really pissed me off about that premier was their portrayl was NOTHING like portland. did anyone else see the palm trees in the background? i know most of you dont care but now i know how people in orange county must feel. i hope they dont show portland again.

I had a fing OC party at my house. How fing cool am I?

I'd say you're more of an fing douchebag then anything else.

ya i live in portland and that looked nothing like it.

RE: Mischa's scream

I thought that Mischa did a really good job with that. I have been at that point where everything is so messed up that you have no words and all you can do is just let it out in any way possible. Actually, my mom and I had a scene similar to that one when I was a teenager... well, minus the throwing of furniture into the pool, it was more like throwing my bedroom furniture around, but anyway, I just had to defend the criticism of Mischa's acting skills in that scene because I really felt where Marissa was coming from, and so to me that means that Mischa did her job very well... at least in that scene.

i agree with Katy and Matt...their smart people

emo sucks, oc is horrible with horrible lame acting

I am fucking sick and tired of hearing all this shit about the O.C. Why are people so facinated with white collar California life? It's a fad. Get over it.

The OC is sweet. Music wear the artist seems like he blows a nut because he has put so much into it rules regardless of what you call it. Mischa Barton and the scream had people rolling in my house. The ending tied everything up way to quick. Summer's chest looks great. Oh, and the writers ahve listened too much to how people view all of the characters and consciously or not have written too much of that into the script, e.g. Luke's comments about Summer's chesticles, Summer's comments about Marissa's eating, etc. They should go back to writing like no one is watching the show. Get bent.

lol @ all of you

The O.C. rules. The only reason why this episode sucked (and this goes to credit the writers/producers) is because NOTHING is normal. Ryan is in Chino, Seth is in Portland, the house is being redone, Marissa is living with her mom, hell even Jimmy has a beard. I predict that the show returns to it's greatness in the next few epsiodes as things return to "normal" (as normal as their lives can be called :)

I think I got it it now

Pool boy (DJ) wants Marrisa
Marrisa needs Summer
Summer uses Zach
Zach adores Seth
Seth loves Ryan
Ryan secretly yerns for the Pool boy

Classic soap opera circle jerk

alrighty. OC is a good show. I still find the yelling funny, but I'm a guy. Guys don't freak out like that, I've seen girls freak out like that, its what they do. --- Seth is still cool, cause he's all about the art and hes sarcastic as hell. He's gona get some wicked pussy this season, and then hes gona dump her because he wants to run off with DJ (Ryan will cry, head to Marissa) Marissa will get pregnant, lose the baby, then Teresa will give her the baby she had, Teresa will be hit by a bus, that Summer left on, so she can go find herself.

man it is really scary how seriously some people take the OC. and for the record:

EMO = Emotional Punk

for the most part there is no EMO on garden state (but making fun of stereotypes is fun)

some emo bands are indie, but not all indie is emo, and not all emo is indie

but that conversation was really funny, that happens alot with emo and indie. also for the most part emo is whiney and bitchy and melodramatic sorta like the OC, that is why it is great

Im still pretty fing cool