"It's so much better watching Logan relate to people when he is not trying to act as if he is invincible."

There was more of that [with Weevil, too] last season, that's why we like him.

Logan can be a jackass but two good episodes to get a good read on his character would be "Return of the Kane" Ep. 6 where you get to see him do some shitty things but also get to see his horrible family dynamic. I hated him before this episode but this one helped me understand him. The second episode to see would be "The Girl Next Door" which gives the viewers a great Logan/Weevil dynamic. Logan really comes through in this episode for Weevil something of which Weevil never really does for Logan.

Yeah, Logan has always been smarmy and a dickhead since the very beginning, but you saw lots of human elements to him in the 1st season (relationship w/ weevil, relationship w/ vm, and his friendship with duncan). You also see that he has ample reason to be bitter from all the stuff that's happened to him. Personally, I love evil logan since I just think Jason Dohring plays that charming asshole so well.

Is this a joke? The banner says that "The best recaps, news, and gossip in television" and this has to be the worst recap of any show I've ever read. I know the whole thing suppose to be a experiment about not watching season 1, but that is no excuse why you have things that happen in season 2 wrong. You even got details wrong about the show that you were watching and reviewing. Unbelievable!

Just for the hell of it, since it seems your readers have to correct you every week, I think that I'll jump right in. It was Dick who complained about the smell on the bus, not Duncan. It was Logan who had on the leather jacket, not Duncan.

Logan is a prick, that said his mother killed herself presumabably to get away from Aaron, his sister(Allison Hannigan) is a crazy loon who dates abusive boyfriends, and his father is a statutory(sp) rapist and murderer. So there's a reason behind his evil ways.

Re: Logan,

I understand that a lot of bad stuff has happened to him, but I still think he is well within his capacity to choose how those experiences affect him now. If the rather explanation for Logan's behavior is that he is a victim of his upbringing, I guess I can live with that, but how long do we give Logan a free pass before his past experiences can no longer be used an excuse for his behavior? Do we give him a free pass to kill somebody (not saying that he did ) because of his crazy mom, sister, and dad?

Alissa,

Thanks for the feedback!

Ness,

When I rent season 1, I'll be sure to take note.

And to your comment, J-Unit, have you ever heard of the whole 'nature vs nurture' debate? No, we couldn't excuse his behavior based on pass experiences if there were someone positive in his life that actually cared about the things he do; someone who would take the time to show him that there is a better way.

It is like the whole thing about abused children growing up to be abusers if they don't get help somewhere along the way. What we have to realize that this is how he was raised. This is what he knows. But, in Logan's defense he was a really different person at the end of last season when him and Veronica got together. When he is happy, he is less of a jerk. The jackass that everyone is witnessing now is his defense mechanism. That is why everyone is urging you to watch season 1 because you can't really analyze a complex character like Logan from a one-sided view. He is the most dynamic character on television.

Don't listen to'em J-Unit. Great recap and we appreciate all that you do!

I like Logan's character, but I have to agree that he is a jackass.

Joss Whedon was so great. He must have been so happy to star in his favourite show.

And I also, I loved the scene with Logan, Veronica and the argyle. Haha, that was great.

J-Unit
Thanks for the great recap! I love VM because it is a television show that is intelligent and funny. However, it is just a show and I appreciate that you call a penishead a penishead.
I guess that makes me a penishead lover.
But a show is just a show, and I don't think the actor who plays logan would be personally injured by the things in your recap - so it seems a bit odd that a loyal viewer would be.

Keep up the good work!

Alissa,

You answer begs another obvious question, ie, if we attribute Logan's behavior to his upbringing, should we expect all people raised in similar circumstances to act the same way? If Logan needs somebody to show him the right way, what does that say about his personality? Is there a time when we expect that Logan makes his own decisions that aren't a reaction to his upbringing?

And again, if we accept that his nurture changed his life, how far do we allow that explanation to explain what he does? So it's OK to be an asshole? Is it OK to be a bigot? Is it OK to be a murderer? Shouldn't he at some point take account of his defense mechanism?

If Logan were someone I knew in real life I would not like him as I would only get to see the jackass but since he is a TV character I get to see the character development, his shitty upbringing, and his vulnerable side. This allows me to find his character fascinating and allows me to root for him. He definitely needs to take responsibility for his actions but he also needs someone to offer him some support, preferably an adult. I also think he is an equal opportunity hater. He is a grey character as are most of the characters on this show and I prefer that. It is not ok to be a murderer and if the writers take him in that direction then no his upbringing does not excuse this, but for now I don't think he is that far gone.

You really need to get your facts straight. Let's break down your mistakes, shall we?

As the person noted above, it was Dick that smelled something funny, and Logan wearing the leather jacket. I see that you corrected this, so that's good. Also, it's Lamb, not Lam, and "the Mexican"'s name is Felix.

When Logan was accused of killing the Mexican last year, he had no recollection of the crime, and it was actually called in by an anonymous informant. Well, that informant decided to step forward and he had some new evidence about what he saw.
I have to point out that Logan may have been accused, but he wasn't formally charged-there was a hearing, but he was acquitted due to lack of evidence. Hence why he was back in jail now that the eyewitness came forward. But the witness is not the same guy that we saw in the premeire, so that is something to take note of.

And says "Dick is Dick," or perhaps "Dick is dick." Either one works fine.
Close. She says "Dick is just Dick."

The witness will testify that Logan said the expletive - racial expletive deserved what his maternal expletive got.
What he actually said was "The [expletive] [racial expletive] had it [maternal expletive] coming".

Of all the episodes of Veronica Mars I have watched, now seven and counting, I have never seen Logan display the kind of pure and honest emotion he showed when he was in the cell with his father.
Which is why you really need to see the first season, because there's lots more where that came from. It would give you a much better understanding of his character, beyond the fact that he's a "penis head" (which wasn't funny the first time you said it).

Does anybody else think that Joss Whedon wrote his own dialog during this little cameo, or is Rob Thomas just have that general feeling?
Rob wrote the part for him.

Sure Logan must defend himself, but we also must assume that Weevil was innocent.
Logan thinks (and probably rightly so) that the bikers burned down his house. Whether Weevil was involved in doing so or not (it's implied that he is, when he says "Maybe it is time we did something about Logan Echolls" earlier), as the gang leader and a nemesis of Logan's, he is the natural target. Perhaps Logan wants to kick him out so he knows what it's like, and he knew that kicking out his family along with him was a sure way to get to him (based on how we saw Weevil act with him during the first season). Considering the bikers supposedly burned down Logan's house, I don't think this retaliation was going too far.

So that's it, I think. A little long, I know. Not a terrible review, but it wouldn't hurt for you to pay a bit more attention.

J-Unit, you half-read my comment like you half-watches the show. If you look at it you can see that I already answered your questions before you asked them, but what the hell, right?

You answer begs another obvious question, ie, if we attribute Logan's behavior to his upbringing, should we expect all people raised in similar circumstances to act the same way?

Like I stated about, children who are raised in an abusive environment have been known to grow up to be abusers if they don't get the required help. Most children find an out; there is a teacher, a family member, a friends, or someone in their lives that give them the type of love they need where they don't feel the need to act out.

If Logan needs somebody to show him the right way, what does that say about his personality?

Obviously, you don't know much about abused children. Okay, just for an experiement, take away the abused part and turn to E! True Hollywood story and see how great children of celebrities are turning out. This is what Rob Thomas was trying to convey to us without having to say it out right. That is why the show is so realistic. Plus, it is a thinking man's show.

Is there a time when we expect that Logan makes his own decisions that aren't a reaction to his upbringing?

This is also a question I answered above. I said if he had at least one person in his life that gave a damn and took the effort to show him a better way to handle his emotions, then we can't continue to use his upbringing as an excuse. This guy's girlfriend was killed. His bestfriend became a walking zombie. His father was beating him and cared more about his career than his family. And, then his mother jumped off a bridge. Just when he was starting to handle that and thought that he had at least one person in the world who cared about him, he was then accused of rape, then murder, then he beat up by a biker gang and framed for murder, then he found out his father not only was the murderer but was sleeping with his dead ex-girlfriend . Where is the positivity in his life? Who does he have that he feel even cares about him?

And again, if we accept that his nurture changed his life, how far do we allow that explanation to explain what he does? So it's OK to be an asshole? Is it OK to be a bigot? Is it OK to be a murderer? Shouldn't he at some point take account of his defense mechanism?

This is so funny to me because people see everything Logan does and doesn't comment on anything that anybody else does on the show. Okay, when Veronica was doing very unethical things, they excuse that. Many characters on the show has made racial comments, even Veronica. But, it is Logan that everyone focus on.

I'm not excusing his behavior, but it is biased to pick out his faults and not say anything about anyone elses. That is what is great about the show. That is the whole point is that no one is perfect and everyone has their demons.

So, let's play your game and pick out another character. What is Weevil's excuse? Don't get me wrong, I love the character of Weevil also. But, he has been sprouting racial things, burning down people houses, approaching people on bridges to kill or cause serious pain, he is an asshole at times, and he thinks it is his place to bring justice to all the 'rich white guys' he thinks is guilty of anything. He has called Wallace a very racial name. He even taped Wallace to a flagpole because Wallace was trying to stop his boys from stealing from a store. He is a bookie. He does a little breaking and entering when he feels he have too. He has been getting arrested since he was twelve. And, he made sexist comments to Veronica.

So, tell me why is Weevil better than Logan? And, why does everything that Logan does sticks out more than what everyone else does? Just curious.

As the person noted above, it was Dick that smelled something funny, and Logan wearing the leather jacket.

Granted. How would the story of changed if Duncan had smelled the rat? How would the story have changed if Duncan was wearing the jacket?

Also, it's Lamb, not Lam, and "the Mexican"'s name is Felix.

Are you saying that I make it sound like there are two Sheriffs? I'll try and be more careful next time. And I should have put "the Mexican" in quotes because the witness that came to Sheriff Lamb used that phrase when referring to Felix.

Rob wrote the part for him.

I wasn't actually looking for the answer, since the question is more rhetorical, but gold star for you

She says "Dick is just Dick.

Again, I'm sorry if that really took away from the story.

I have to point out that Logan may have been accused, but he wasn't formally charged-there was a hearing, but he was acquitted due to lack of evidence. Hence why he was back in jail now that the eyewitness came forward. But the witness is not the same guy that we saw in the premeire, so that is something to take note of.

Now this is the type of thing that is helpful as I really did miss it. I wasn't writing the recaps until the third episode, so I wasn't watching that episode with the same attention to detail. But more importantly, any theories as to why this man stepped forward if he wasn't a witness?

Logan thinks (and probably rightly so) that the bikers burned down his house. Whether Weevil was involved in doing so or not (it's implied that he is, when he says "Maybe it is time we did something about Logan Echolls" earlier), as the gang leader and a nemesis of Logan's, he is the natural target.

First, the fact that Weevil committed the crime was implied to the viewer. Logan had no knowledge of that statement. None of Logan's friends had knowledge of that statement either. I am not saying that Weevil didn't do it, and its more than likely that he did, but I am saying that if Logan retaliates against Weevil because he thinks the police can't do anything to stop it, it makes him just as bad as Weevil and crew who are not letting the courts prosecute Logan.

Like I stated about, children who are raised in an abusive environment have been known to grow up to be abusers if they [b]don't[/b] get the required help. Most children find an out; there is a teacher, a family member, a friends, or someone in their lives that give them the type of love they need where they don't feel the need to act out.

You are assuming that a child must find an out to turn out alright. I am not making that assumption. You say "have been known", which is not a certainty. The statistics only point to a relative likelihood between two different segments of a population to exhibit the same behavior. It does not mean that every child who is abused will abuse themselves, it only means that child is more likely to abuse than if they had grown up with no abuse in the home. It also does not say that all children who are abused will grow up to become abusers themselves, or that children who are not abused will not turn out to be abusers when they are older.

Obviously, you don't know much about abused children.

Well, obviously, because you say so.

Okay, just for an experiement, take away the abused part and turn to E! True Hollywood story and see how great children of celebrities are turning out.

I am sure E! has plenty of anecdotal evidence, but I would be more interested to see any statistics regarding the factors you are trying to pull together for an argument. I would wager a guess that children of celebrities fare no better or worse than children of non-celebrities if you are accounting for the same economic class.

This is what Rob Thomas was trying to convey to us without having to say it out right.

If you say so.

This is also a question I answered above...Where is the positivity in his life? Who does he have that he feel even cares about him?

Again, you can only speak in probabilities and possibilities and not certainties or absolutes.

I'm not excusing his behavior, but it is biased to pick out his faults and not say anything about anyone elses. That is what is great about the show. That is the whole point is that no one is perfect and everyone has their demons

I think Logan's faults are unique because I don't see him applying them to anything worthy of accolade.

So, tell me why is Weevil better than Logan? And, why does everything that Logan does sticks out more than what everyone else does? Just curious.

From what I can tell, I haven't said that Weevil is a good person. I don't think I ever said that Weevil is better than Logan. I am pretty sure I said that Logan didn't deserve to have his house burned down. I am pretty sure I advocated that Logan should be presumed innocent. What's more, this is a television show and Logan can still redeem himself and more than likely he probably will. At that time, I will be more than happy to sing his praises.

J-Unit, you crack my ass up...Not only do these people take this way too seriously but you get them for it. HA!

Part of the stuff with Weevil and Logan...Its the difference in characters. Weevil has always been made out to be the Badass bad boy, Logan is just a spoiled rich kid. Yes he has had bad things done to him but his reasons are different. All around I think Weevil is a better guy than Logan. He will actually help someone unlike Logan who prety much does everything for himself. Whether he thinks its right or wrong. Hes a cocky rich kid who has been taught that if you are rich you are better...just like his father.

All in all they are just characters and for someone to get all wriled up over your Recap and your assumtion of characters is rediculous. Obviously someone has invested too much of themself in these shows...

Oh my God, J-Unit, do all of us other readers a favor and just watch season one if for nothing else to get people to stop bitching about it? I am a die hard VM fan and I read this to lighten up my day, not to take a class on semantics or psychology. Please, just a personal favor, it's all I ask.

Loagans a dick because thats how they write him. With me its a conscious choice.

I thought that rat was plastic explosives.

Kim from America's Next Top Model was surprisingly good.

Im getting more turned off by kristin bells toothy smile every week.

I actually went to Macy's earlier this year to meet the cast of Veronica Mars. First of all I stood in the America's Next Top Model line by accident for a good half hour (Me being a far from statuesque, chubby white boy really confused as to why all the Veronica Mars fans seemed to be hot black chicks). When I finally got in the right line and to the front of the line I was THUPER EXTHITED to meet everybody. I walked up to Duncan (AKA Jason Dohring) with my little cast picture for him to sign. I laid it down and said "just make it out to "the best lover I ever had, Love Logan." And ya know what, he totally DID! So penishead or not, there's a special place in my heart for him.

First off to all the writers that work for TVgasm, my hat off to you. You all do an amazing job! Second - to the people out there (ie Natalie and Alissa) who don't like the recaps on this site, my advice is to go elsewhere. No one is forcing you to read this site and the fans of TVgasm don't need to read your crap. If you can do a better job, then please post your website address so we can all read your fabulous recaps and judge for ourselves how great you are.

okay logan may be a jackass at times but he is very misunderstood and he was abused. did you think he would sally sunshine after all that went down?

Dear Reviewer,

You do not take criticism well. I think this is an area you can work on.

Best of luck!

Logan is hot= penis head or not- love their relationship.