Amanda Knox Is Not Guilty

19 Comments

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   Hypnotoad
   Posted October 3, 2011 at 1:48 pm

   Amanda Knox is guilty of being a naive idiot, but I don’t think there’s any way in hell she’s guilty of murdering her roommate. The Italian police totally effed up on every count and the Italian media turned her into a pariah.

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   plockeness monster
   Posted October 3, 2011 at 2:01 pm

   I agree Hypno. This is a good article about it case:

   http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/the-neverending-nightmare-of-amanda-knox-20110627

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   Deja Johnson
   Posted October 3, 2011 at 2:51 pm

   I don’t think Amanda Knox is guilty murder either. The Italian authority did really screw up for sure. I did think at one point that she played a part in it, but that’s too much a gray area. All in all, I feel for Kercher’s family, it seems this ordeal will never be over for them.

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   Joy_Subtraction
   Posted October 3, 2011 at 3:09 pm

   I was glad to see this. She’s a nimrod, but that’s just because she was a naive kid when this happened. From all I’ve seen of and read about the murder case, there’s no way she did it. It’s pretty clear they already knew who did it, since all the evidence pointed to the other guy(s) (not her boyfriend).

   I’m happy for her parents, but like Deja, I’m sad for the murdered girl’s family. This whole thing has been about Amanda and absolutely no focus on the original victim.

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   captain save-uh-hoe
   Posted October 3, 2011 at 3:42 pm

   There was absolutely zero dna evidence, aside from other evidence in regards to the amanda and raffaele’s conviction. Four years of their life gone because of an overzealous, corrupt prosecutor with a knack for theatrics. Finally, finally justice is served.
   As far as being naive, yes. She was 19 years old and in a foreign country. She was interrogated behind closed doors, in Italian, without a lawyer present, for hours on end. Poor girl didn’t stand a chance.

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   Hypnotoad
   Posted October 3, 2011 at 3:47 pm

   Agree with everything here. Plockeness — I read that article too. It’s pretty much the only one on Amanda Knox that I’ve read. It’s a really interesting and insightful article and if you’re looking for info about the case, that’s the one to start with.

   If I remember correctly, didn’t the Italian prosecutor or judge have some ridiculous claims about the supernatural or something? He/they are insane.

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   Deja Johnson
   Posted October 3, 2011 at 3:52 pm

   The prosecutor claimed it was a Satanic sex ritual gone wrong….

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   Hypnotoad
   Posted October 3, 2011 at 4:10 pm

   Right. But I also thought he had a past history with claiming that sort of stuff in other cases. And god, Satanic sex rituals? That is SOOOOOOOO 80s.

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   Tessa
   Posted October 3, 2011 at 6:16 pm

   Public opinion, at least in the US, has swayed in Amanda’s favor over the past fours years, especially since all the information about the shoddy police work came to light. Not to mention that the prosecutor in the case has been charged with abuse of office. People were so quick to assume that she was guilty, but as more information has come out more people have maybe not necessarily believed in her innocence, but knew there was no evidence that she was guilty. All media coverage in the US today was quite positive for her.

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    sarcasatire
    Posted October 3, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    My problem with Amanda Knox is her “That black guy did it!” testimony. Especially when the guy she named as the murderer had a rock solid alibi and was nowhere near the crime scene.

    Sure, another Black guy was convicted, but since he was at the house with Amanda and her boyfriend, why didn’t they identify him first? I smell a coverup. Either they all participated, or one of them did it and the others helped cover up the crime. She may not be a murderer, but she’s far from innocent.

    BTW, when I was in college, a girl in my class was killed by her roommate. She was friends with the girl and they’d decided to get an apartment in the city for sophomore year, as they were commuting from Long Island. Less than two weeks later, her friend killed her.

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    captain save-uh-hoe
    Posted October 3, 2011 at 11:04 pm

    @ Sarcas–
    “The “another black guy did it” “testimony” is bullshit. Yes, her boss was black. During interrogations- which went on for endless hours without food, water, and in Italian, they questioned why she had received a text from Patrick (her boss, the black guy) the night of the murder (he told her she didn’t have to come into work and she said c ya later— to the Italian police they took this text to mean that they met up later for the murder) and asked her to imagine if she and him were present at the time of the murder what would have happened.
    It had nothing to do with his race, and she almost immediately retracted whatever statements she made regarding the testimony- which was actually never testimony, but twisted words from the interrogation.
    And yeah, another black guy was convicted- yeah, the guy who had his evidence on meredith, inside meredith, and just about everywhere else in the room.
    not a race issue period. he was guilty. Oh and the same guy who had broken into three residences prior to this one, by the same tactics.
    Instead of insinuating things, read the actual facts on the case first. Saying you “smell a coverup” is fishy at best and lame from someone who usually has more insightful and well thought out comments.

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    sarcasatire
    Posted October 4, 2011 at 12:39 am

    @Captain, I mentioned the other African guy who was convicted of the murder in my post. But Amanda still accused another African man who was nowhere near the scene of the crime. I don’t dispute that she was mistreated by her interrogators. Heck, the same thing happens here in the US. But a innocent man was made a scapegoat, he was arrested, and now will be associated as a suspect in a murder case when he had no parts in the crime. Did you know he is suing her for slander?

    I appreciate that you recognize my comments to be well thought out and insightful, I feel the same way about you, and possibly we can agree to disagree on this matter, but I have a personal connection to a case of a family member being falsely accused, the charges later dropped but where he felt his reputation was forever tarnished. So forgive me if I’m not as understanding about that sort of thing. I know first hand how detrimental it can be, to the lives of those it touches.

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    Snootchy Bootches
    Posted October 4, 2011 at 4:46 am

    I remember seeing a documentary on the case a few years ago on the Crime channel. It was so obvious that she wasn’t guilty of anything but being a 19 year old. I’m glad she has finally been released.

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    captain save-uh-hoe
    Posted October 4, 2011 at 8:05 am

    @sarcas- my point, in the first half of my comment is that I feel like you were trying to make something a race issue that simply isn’t/wasn’t. If Patrick, the falsely accused, had been Asian, the same story of events would have taken place. There is simply no place for, “oh blame the black guy here”— it was a matter of their connection, their relationship, ad their communications exchanged on the night of the matter. Yes it was unfortunate, but it happened. I do know that he is suing her for slander. I have followed the case and researched it extensively. She has been ordered to pay him and was found guilty on that one count.
    And that being said, after you’ve explained, i don’t understand the coverup comment.
    I’m sorry for what your family member has had to go through.

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    sarcasatire
    Posted October 4, 2011 at 9:49 am

    @captain, I see things a little differently. I guess my issue is that it seems like one African man was substituted for another. One was guilty, sure, but another one was accused and arrested in his place. It almost seemed like they were interchangeable. The one thing we can agree on is that she WAS found guilty on that count and that is the only count I was speaking of.

    As for the coverup..that’s just speculation on my part. Amanda mentioned being in the house at the time of the murder and hearing her roommate scream. So why didn’t her or her boyfriend call the police? That seemed kind of shady to me. She may have changed her story, confessed under duress, but I still think she knows more than she’s letting on. Again, it’s speculation, but I’m allowed that, aren’t I?

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    juddfan
    Posted October 4, 2011 at 11:06 am

    Sacra, I’m new to this story, tho I vaguely remember the toilet being unflushed, I would double check that article link. I don’t think some of the things you’re saying are actually the case. The article is pretty clear . . . and it’s clearly corruption, IMHO. They interrogated the BF and got him to say that she could have gone out while he was sleeping, then they told her he “said” she went out. I don’t know how anyone false confesses to anything, nor how they accuse someone else . . . but the entire time they knew the kids had not been there, they hadn’t been in the victims room and even when none of the DNA matched the kids, they still upheld the confession. It was really the prosecutors who brought up her boss-putting words in her mouth. Again . . . there’s is on way in the world I would confess to something I didn’t do . . . I just don’t understand!

    The “guilty” guy still said she was involved to get a lighter sentence . . . I don’t know how any of this works in a civilized society . . .is there no common sense!?

    My impression was she had nothing to do with it. She was trying to be helpful, not knowing they were accusing her.

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    captain save-uh-hoe
    Posted October 4, 2011 at 4:36 pm

    @ Sarcas— the prosecution and the corrupt Mignini are who Patrick (the black guy) and anyone else wronged in the trial should be after. I think you might find a little bit more material on the matter really interesting if you have down time… check out Candace Dempsey’s “Murder in Italy” or also a book by the name of Monster of Florence- which will blow your mind.
    It definitely gives you a different perspective on the things you have heard about the trial and the things said that have been contributed to Amanda (through unrecorded interrogations in Italian- 50 hours worth of interrogation in the first week in the middle of the night, nonetheless) If there’s one thing I know, while it may appear that one black was switched for another, that most certainly was not the case and most certainly the “false accusation” was not out of intent that way.
    There’s 0 dna evidence linking Amanda and Rafaelle to the crime actually. 0. NONE. zip. But there’s more than enough linking Rudy Guede (the black guy serving time)- weird how he got the lesser sentence out of the 3 when there was plenty of evidence againt him and none to support Raffaele or Amanda being there.
    I think there’s a lot more to the this case than meets the eye and perhaps it’s because I’ve become so invested in it, that it really bothers me when people make blanket statements based on vague updates and “evidence” released by the press.

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    faye
    Posted October 4, 2011 at 8:01 pm

    I don’t know much about the case but I did read the article but they glossed over the fact the victims DNA was found on a knife in the boyfriends apartment …. please correct me if I’m wrong. I need someone to explain that away before I believe she is 100% innocent. Also how did the bedroom door get locked from the inside? The investigation was far from perfect I acknowledge that and I have never been inclined to convict someone without a clear motive but after reading that piece I’m a little sketptical. A detective I was knew told me murder comes down to three things love, money, or trying to cover up another crime; there is always a motive.

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    Robinez
    Posted October 4, 2011 at 9:44 pm

    captain save-a-hoe,

    I have been following this case too. I do not think that she had anything to do with murdering anybody. I think she got way in over her head and the sad state of Italian law enforcement allowed her to dig herself even deeper.

    Therein lies the rub for me, when it comes to her. I am supposed to think that she is an innocent child on one hand, and on the other, I am supposed to think that she is so super smart that her parent’s were comfortable sending her to Italy to study.

    And yes, super smart or not, it would be intimidating for anyone to be in a Police Station wouldn’t it? But, No! Amanda decides to do frikken cartwheels in the hallway! It would be a stupid move in the USA. So stupid to show such a display in the hallway of the cop shop after someone just died. That’s another thing, I am supposed to believe all these stories about how she was so kind to strangers,etc yet she is doing cartwheels after her roomate was murdered? Kissy facing with the boyfriend at a murder scene? Sitting on his lap.. She was stupid.

    BTW, nobody has mentioned it, and it really has nothing to do with my point, but those bastards told her that she had the HIV virus while in custody. Imagine the anguish she must have felt before they said “oops, mistake”. To me, that’s cruel and unusual punishment.

    I don’t know whether Amanda Knox is a smart girl who cares about others, then does cartwheels when they die.. Or a really stupid girl who’s parents shouldn’t have let her out of their sight. Either way, I don’t think she is a murderer.

    CSAH, You may want to check this out if you haven’t already. I think you might like it. http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150294