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Celebrity Apprentice’s Black Contestants Are Asked To Speak Out Against Trump
Watercooler
Friday, May 6, 2011
12:40 pm
52 Comments
Tagged: celebrity apprentice, colorofchange, Lil' Jon, race-baiting, rights, stand up, star jones, trump
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The organization, ColorOfChange has launched a twitter campaign asking Star Jones and Lil’ Jon to denounced Trump for “race-baiting.” Race-baiting is:
ColorOfChange said in a statement, “This is the first organized attempt to target these celebrities and demand that they, as prominent African-Americans, take a public stance against Donald Trump’s ongoing attacks against President Obama.”
That’s insane, the organization is essentially bullying them into speaking out. I think Star and Lil’ Jon should speak out if they truly believe in their heart that Trump is “race-baiting.” They shouldn’t speak out if they don’t believe in what they’re saying. I’m all for standing up for what you believe it, but not being bullied into standing up. It should come from the heart. Honestly, I’m shocked that Star hasn’t spoken up already.
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Maybe I am just jaded by our political parties, but am I the only one who thinks this is a way to discredit him because he has hinted that he will be running for president? That plus the whole exchange between him and Obama over the birth certificate?
What a bunch of rubbish.
He’ll never run. He’s just further ruining his rep by people digging up all of his skeletons. I’m so turned off by him, aren’t you?
Sure am. I’ve always found him kind of physically and morally repulsive, and he’s the type of guy you might buy a used car from just to get him to stop yelling in your face. I don’t even think the Florida Hanging Chad crowd would vote for him.
I would hate to see him in a debate – nobody would ever get their answer out! I am happy to see how quickly everybody turned on him after Obama released his birth certificate. He’s becoming a punch line.
I understand that the Mentally Divergent Action Group (MDAG) is calling on Gary Busey to speak out about the way he was treated on Celebrity Apprentice. MDAG worries that he was “edited” in a way that negatively portrayed people living with mental illness.
I thought the same thing when Ellen Degeneres was coming out–I felt she was pressured into politicizing her sexuality and that it wasn’t fair to her.
I don’t care if someone is liberal or conservative, it’s up to other people to make their own personal and political choices. Also, I do think Star Jones made it clear that she does not support Trump in his bid, which I still think is fake anyway. A week or so ago, she was making the news by declaring herself to be a lifelong Democrat who wouldn’t support Trump.
This is just a reality show, not a political platform–if Trump continues talking about his politics into the season, I see no reason that NBC shouldn’t charge him for his political commercials. Of course, they won’t. But I do remember that I read that some of his sponsors have dropped him.
Star’s too much of a “strong, educated, African-American woman” to speak out against her will.
@AntSuck, why the quotes?
I believe that none of the people on Celebrity Apprentice will allow themselves to be bullied into speaking out, whatever the cause. Especially against someone they don’t even take that seriously to begin with. They showed up to CA, got a check, and made some money for charity. Done and done.
Lil Jon speaks to Trump while wearing sunglasses…indoors. Do you really think he gives a shit about The Donald or his political aspiriations?
If the ColorofChange org had any good sense, they would have reached out to those celebrities who have already spoken out against Trump, without needing to be coerced. John Legend, for example. He told NY mag last month (when this was still relevant), about his disapproval of Trump’s recent antics. “He needs to stop saying that racist bullshit birther shit. Quote me please. He should be ashamed of himself. It’s awful, really.”
But, why beat a dead horse, ColorofChange? The birth certificate has been released and Trump has been exposed for his ridiculousness, especially since he hasn’t held up his end of the bargain by releasing his tax records. That’s yet another reason for everyone to see that Trump’s anus of a mouth is just blowing hot air.
I’m with you, Nads..it’s obvious he isn’t running for president. But by ‘crying wolf’, Trump is giving any and everyone a reason to air out his dirty laundry and in turn, losing what little respect he’s earned over the years. (which isn’t much, we all know.)
I mean, if it’s publicity Trump wants, there’s gotta be another way. Wouldn’t it have been easier to just start another fight with Rosie O’Donnell?
I 100% agree. And doubt with every fiber of my being that he will actually run. But GAWD wouldn’t that be a treasure trove of opportunities for him to look like more of a joke?! I would LOVE it if he ran.
Did CoC even try to ask them nicely at first? Or just DEMAND they stand up and speak? You catch more flies with honey, just sayin…
Oh for goodness sakes, AntSuck quoted something that Star herself has thrown out there so many times on this show it has become a tired ass quote.. Like, “Pack your knive’s and go” and “You’re Fired”.
Nothing sinister as far as I can see. Why do you always want to start trouble? There has never been a disagreement anywhere that you aren’t involved in. You never posted at Survivor for example until there was a disagreement. Ever. You had never posted at Apprentice either. But, as soon as there was a disagreement, you were right there. It is unfortunate that your contribution’s to the thread’s didn’t help a bit. You stoke the fire very well, I must say.
Robin
Robin..no one is starting trouble on here but you. I have asked you repeatedly to not comment on my posts…once again, you can’t help yourself.
“Why the quotes?” was a question. Nothing more, nothing less. I did not accuse Antsuck of anything, I just asked why he/she used quotes for that particular phrase. It was a three word sentence. Of course, you’re going to read into it..desperate for conflict. Grow up.
You, my dear Robin, are the biggest troublemaker on this board. Some people have said you were getting better about your shit-stirring ways, but I knew it was only a matter of time before you would strike again. It’s pretty rich that you said my contribution to this thread wasn’t helpful, although I stayed on topic. You, however, posted here only to attack another poster. Self awareness not your strong point, eh?
I am not your dear and I wasn’t speaking about this thread when I mentioned your contribution. It was very clear that I was talking about your “contribution” to the Survivor and Apprentice thread. Two programs that you never had an interest in before. Folks started having a discussion, you decided to join, and just like many of your attempts to control, you manage to spin it and once everyone is sick of the bullshit, you Laugh! Yes, You do. Happens alot and it is not beneath me to prove it. You enjoy pissing people off. Self aware?
Yeah, about that not commenting on post’s.. I have asked the same of you and it wasn’t that long ago (1 month) that you ignored my request. I am pretty sure I asked first. Here. In bold letters.
Biggest troublemaker on this board? Nope. Not Me. There were some troublemaker’s here many yrs ago that would have eaten you alive while you are walking that crevace between being shitty to people you disagree with here and sending suck up emails to other’s so you will see the “You are so cool Sarca”..”LOL Sarcas”.. Pity..
You knew exactly what you were doing when you asked about the quotation marks. You also made sure that it was in the first sentance of your post so it would get on the front page. Your MO is well known.
Robin
Ooh, it’s getting spicy in here.
Robin, I love, LURVE!, how you can tell me which shows I am interested in and where I post. Obsessive much? I have been posting on Celeb Apprentice since the beginning and will post on any discussion on TVgasm that interests me. When debates pop up around here most of us are civil about it. I, however, do not call people out and attack them with silly accusations or personal insults. That is YOUR M.O., Robin.
Yes, I was curious as to why the phrase was used in quotes, so I asked. It’s clear there was no drama involved so you had to create it by talking about my posts on another thread.
(Bingo!)
If you notice, I didn’t mention Star in my post because I agreed with Ant. I was just curious as to who/where the quote was from. For all we know, The Donald could have said it.
But that’s irrelevant. You just used that as a weak excuse to try and start another war. I am quite aware of what isn’t ‘beneath you.’ And now you are saying, with conviction I might add, that anyone who has ever written ‘Lol Sarcas’, has only done so because I’ve sent them an email sucking up? Ha! You’re right about one thing. I laugh off the ridiculousness.
Robinez, I’d say don’t waste your breath, but we are typing and not speaking. So what would that be? Don’t waste your fingerprints maybe?
It never helps to respond to her so just ignore her. Others are noticing the trends. Maybe if we stop having posts about race, then it won’t poke that particular tiger.
On a more pleasant note, just had a great time in Amsterdam and Copenhagen! It was Queen’s Day in Amsterdam which is CRAAAAAZY! Think Mardi Gras times ten! I hope you are enjoying your mother’s day weekend!
Yes, others are picking up the trend all right.
My comments or opinions shouldn’t result in personal attacks even if you disagree. (Some people will find any excuse to start drama. If you have a comment/complaint about my posts on Survivor, post THERE. Bringing it up on another thread weeks later..it’s just silly.)
Please, for everyone’s sake..just ignore me, you two! Thanks!
*still giggling at the absurdity of it all*
LOL, Sarcas! I love you!
Do I get my suck-up email now???
Of course Trump is being called a racist. If you disagree with Obama, there are many who will jump up and brand you a racist. It’s downright disgusting. Too bad we can’t have a black person in higher office without idiots going around pointing accusatory fingers.
I don’t think Trump is a racist. I think he says some pretty dumb things sometimes, though. I also don’t think he’s really running for president as much as making his points. Whether he realizes it or not, he’s becoming a high profile example of just what happens with the politics of personal destruction when one dares question The Emperor.
Trump is an Ass.
My memories of Queen’s Day vary from “wow” (the first time) to “ugh” (the seventh and last time)… but Amsterdam’s a great city the other 364 days of the year.
Oh hey, look. Assholes and bullies exist on both sides of the political spectrum. Who knew?
But Where’s My Coffee, there is plenty of legitimate criticism of this administration that doesn’t get labeled “racist.” Just read almost any Glenn Greenwald column, as well as the comments to see that there is no Emperor that we dirty hippy Democrats all blindly follow. If I had my way, we’d have Pres. Feingold or Kucinich right now. But Feingold won’t run and Kucinich looks too much like a Keebler elf to ever be taken seriously by the media. It’s only when the arguments against him have nothing to do with politics or his policies and focus solely on his very right to call himself an American, that there is a whiff of racism.
Geez, I keep posting things ambiguously…the assholes in my previous remark are Trump AND CoC. Because if there is a political cause to be exploited, the conservatives don’t have a lock on being obtuse bullies.
@Where’s My Coffee: He might not be a racist, but he’s totally acting like one. It’s not “disagreeing with Obama,” when he insinuates that our president only got into Harvard because of affirmative action. It’s disgusting.
There’s also a huge a difference between disagreeing with policy and a lot of what’s been going on in the public discourse since Obama got elected.
I think this little bit of a write up says it all:
http://gothamist.com/2011/05/07/breaking_trump_disliked_by_new_york.php
@Jeanine: Suck up email? Girl, your check is in the mail!
@Where’smycoffee: What’s more disgusting is that Trump never went after Obama for his policies. He went after him about his birth certificate and Harvard acceptance. Yet people are surprised when some find the birther business to be tinged with racism?
But I guess it’s like you said, @WMCoffee, “Too bad we can’t have a black person in higher office without idiots going around pointing accusatory fingers.”
Trump, being the biggest idiot of all.
Well, would you look at this! Trump wasn’t labeled a racist for ‘disagreeing’ with Obama. He’s been labeled a racist since the 70′s! He was even investigated by the Feds for refusing to rent to minorities.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/29/donald-trump-blacks-lawsuit_n_855553.html
But hey, he still makes great TV. I hope he surprises us all and runs for Prez because then I’m sure every White House dinner he attends will turn into a roast. *Seth Meyers sits with pen poised*
Here comes Robin and her high horse. You don’t get tired of it? I’m pretty AntSuck is perfectly capable of defending himself. You’re just using any reason you can to go after Sarcas. Really, you’re like a 100 years old. Grow up, this is getting tiring. If you don’t like it, don’t read it. Nobody is forcing you to comment on it, ESPECIALLY when it wasn’t directed at you to begin with.
You just come off as the crazy cat lady, with no life whatsoever, who picks fights with people on the internet, cause she’s got nothing better to do. That’s what Youtube is for.
Oh, Matty, you hit the nail on the head perfectly with that one!
Ah good — the shit stirrers have come by.
God forbid anything is ever let to die a natural death.
@itchy – I’ve been to Amsterdam before and I agree that it is a nice place. We didn’t plan the visit to coincide with Queen’s Day. It was a bit of a surprise and slightly overwhelming, but we still had fun. Not as much fun as I would have had 20 years ago though.
@Ohralphie: Are you talking about me?
Yes @Matt, I am. And to be perfectly clear – I’m adding Jeanine Schaeffer and Snooty bootches to the list as well. I have never known Sarcasatire needing help in a battle. She can hold her own and she did and then went back on topic. Robin did her thing and has now left. Let it be.
@Ohralphie: I wasn’t stirring shit, and I never did before. So tone it down. I’m tired of the bullshit all the time, and it would have started again, whether or not I had posted my comment. I wasn’t defending Sarcas, she can hold her own. But this clearly was started by Robin, for the 100th fucking time. It’s tiring. It got old 2 minutes after it started. So don’t be lecturing me.
Um… Ohralphie, I haven’t said a word since what I posted at 10 am this morning. It is now 11:52 pm. Regardless of the fact that Sarcas posted after me, I didn’t reply. Nor did I reply when certain individuals came on in force at the same time to get things going again. So call me a shit stirrer if you want, but I think that name is better suited to others.
Snootchy, the fact that you jumped on the bandwagon in your post to Robin, telling her not to waste her breath on me, when it was clear that she started it, does in fact make the ‘shit stirrer’ comment very accurate.
@Snootchy Bootches: “Certain individuls”? Really? I only expressed an opinion. Because it matches that of Sarcas, doesn’t mean I came to her defense or started any kind of shit. That shit was started WAY before I came here. So you too, get off your high horse. You don’t hold the moral high ground here. So spare me the bullshit.
It’s tiring that everyone picks on everyone else. Have I said it enough? IT’S. TIRING. If you don’t like a comment, don’t respond to it, UNLESS it’s directed at you, and even then you have the choice to reply to it or not.
Funny how you came to Robin’s defense, and that’s totally okay, right? As long as it’s not Sarcas? Even if I didn’t defend her.
The new Celebrity Apprentice recap is up!
Matt, I didn’t say a damn word to you so take your own advice and tone it down. I’m sorry if you felt your behavior matched what I was talking about. But if you will notice, my comment was to Ohralphie. I know that you and Sarcas are friends as has been evidenced by the off topic conversations between the two of you on several threads. I don’t have a problem with that. But don’t try to act like it was a completely random act to jump in to defend Sarcas. You did it because you are her friend.
I also used to be her friend. And I used to defend her too. But then I started noticing trends in her behavior. Then when she posted a bunch of links to prove that she was a victim of bullying, I went and read everything. EVERYTHING… it took hours. And then I realized that I had been tricked. And I felt betrayed because this person that I had taken at face value lied to me. I hate feeling manipulated and that is exactly what had happened. I pointed all of this out to her. In great detail, I noted my thought processes and how things changed based on what I read so that she would understand where I was coming from. And I told her at that moment that I would call her out when she would do these behaviors but otherwise I would ignore her. And that is what I have done. There has only been one time that I called her out on her behavior. That was a few weeks ago on (I think) the Survivor thread. Otherwise I just ignore anything she posts. However, I do know that if you point out anything she does, she will claim complete innocence and turn it around so that she is (again) the victim. My warning to Robin was to not waste her time. I feel that was good advice. And I left it there. Even when Sarcas replied with nonsense which was not relevent to my comment, I didn’t bother to reply. Because I didn’t want to engage with her. I know that to do so is a neverending round of bullshit. However, I did feel that Ohralphie was out of line in including me in the shit stirrers who wouldn’t let the fight “die a natural death.” It had certainly already done that hours ago. The comments were already on topic. It wasn’t until you and Jeanine started things back up.
But thanks to you, Matt, and Ohralphie for making sure that this thread couldn’t stay on a quiet note.
You guys realize you’re just playing into exactly the sort of dissension Trumps wants, right?
Matt Lam, You have a lot of fucking nerve to talk about someone picking on someone else. You have in fact picked on me many times here. Do you recall the times that you said “Your still here”? after I have posted. Oh yes, and the time you said ” I thought WE told you that you are no longer welcome here”! So YOU need to get off YOUR high horse and quit pretending that you are in any way, shape or form, concerned about who is or isn’t getting picked on. And Yes, I can back up everything I just said. Know That!
It’s ok, Itchy, we can always use sex to confuse The Donald and make our escape.
@Snootchy Bootches: I’m guessing you failed at Reading in Elementary School? Yes, Sarcas is my friend. No, I did not post that to come to her defense. I did it, because this crap is really getting old. Don’t pretend like you know why I do things or say things.
And one more time, whether I had said anything or not, the BS would have started again. Don’t try to pin this on me. THIS BS IS GETTING FUCKING OLD. Do you get me now?
I have never, NEVER had a problem with anyone on here. I’ve never fought with anyone either. Now Robin is a master shit-stirrer. She’s part of the gang that follows Twunty and the old, bitter hag that is ZombieCheeze/PCheeze/whatever the fuck her name on here is (I know her real name). I’m less tolerant of her shit, since those people all attacked me and spread lies about me. So that’s for the Robin part of this post.
As for you, I don’t know you, nor care to. You are a shit-stirrer. You WERE referring to me. Also, leave Jeanine out of it. She didn’t do anything wrong.
And you, Matt Lam, are a hypocrite. Have a wonderful evening.
@Robin: Do you know why I did that, you inbred moron? Because you were with Cheeze and all the gang that spread lies about me, ONLY because I was friends with Sarcas. I wasn’t picking on you, I was calling you out on your bullshit. You’re as transparent as glass.
I can’t believe I’m arguing with old worn-out hags like you. GROW THE HELL UP.
@Snooty Bootches: Seriously, get bent.
Hmm… your name is Matt so I guess I can assume that you aren’t PMSing as that is a male name. So I can only think that you are probably 15 and don’t have control of yourself yet. Don’t worry. It will get better as you get older and your maturity level rises. Bless your heart.
Snootchy, you wrote to me a few weeks back: “And Sarcas, stop bringing up what happened last year on the forums. This has already been discussed ad nauseum. You always cry victim when it gets brought up, but you are always the one who brings it up.”
Did I bring it up this time? Nope. YOU DID. Just lke you brought it up that time, too. I love how you spin shit when you have no leg to stand on.
This thread was peaceful, most of us agreed with one another and then Robin showed up to start shit and you just jumped on the bandwagon, Snootchy. So yes, you are a shit stirrer.
You claim I manipulated you? How, if I never included you in any discussions, conflicts, or such. Friends? An exaggeration, my dear. You, Matt, and others have told Robin on several occasions to stop starting shit or ‘pissing in the pool’ but all of a sudden we are to believe she’s the innocent party? Anyone can scroll up to post # 10 and see the truth for themselves.
The two you, Robin and Snootchy will try this every week, it seems. There was no reason for Robin to address or attack me on here, no reason for you to add your two cents Snootchy, and no reason for you to bring up last years feud ONCE AGAIN.
Olralphie is right, why can’t you just let things die a natural death?
Sorry, Matt..I’m not sure things get better as one ages. Here is a bunch of middle-aged women holding on to grudges from an internet conflict that’s over a year old!
I have no problem posting on a thread that they are on without addressing them. So why can’t they practice a little restraint?
IT’S OVER! Forums have been locked, comment threads have been locked..MOVE ON. Ignore me, puh-leeeze!
Actually Sarcas, I didn’t bring up anything about what happened last year. Matt did. And I said that I called you on something a couple of weeks ago.. thanks for quoting it.
And you can point the fingers at me all you want, Sarcas. But remember that up until about a month or so ago, I was on your side. I was fine then, right? And I know that Robin is your favorite scapegoat. But I still have one question. Why are you at the center of EVERY fight on this board? Every one. I know you will say that you are bullied, but I think Matt exemplified very well that your friends are at least as bad (if not worse) than those who supposedly bully you. So why are there never any fights revolving other people?
And speaking of bandwagons, you just jumped on Matt’s to get your digs in on me. Typical behavior my dear. So don’t label me a shit stirrer without pinning that same tag on yourself. But then self-awareness never has been your long suit has it?
For the record, Sarcas, I wasn’t even active on the site when that war was going on so how could I hold a grudge? Furthermore, when I did come back to the site, I believed your version and was defending you when things would happen on the board. That was until I noticed that almost every time the shit gets started by you. You make a little comment (often a passive aggressive comment such as the one on this thread which started this altercation) which you then pass off as totally innocent. Get off the cross, honey, we need the wood.
@Mattlam – What the fuck do you mean that you know pcheez’s ‘real name’? Why would that be relevant? How could that knowledge be construed as anything but creepy especially in light of the shitfest that that particular fight became? I called you out for shit stirring because that is what you do – your post about Robinez was nothing short of that and you do have a history of getting personal towards other posters.
@Snootchybrootches — I lumped you in with matt and jeanine schaeffer because I wanted to make the point that agreeing with any side of a flame war is just bound to make other people feel the need to jump in and add their support to ‘their guy’.
I love this site, and I love the talent of the recappers here. This bickering and sniping – and there is plenty of guilt to go around – cheapens it.
In honor of Mothers Day let me channel my mother and all my Eastern European foremothers when I say “Knock it the fuck off before I knock the shit out of yas”.
ok thread closed. arguing is one thing, but please stop with the personal attacks. xo