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I thought he was on his way to putting this behind him. He paid his debt to society and stayed out of trouble then he does this. It’s really stupid and he needs to get himself under control.
But the real offense here is his outfit. WTF! Blonde hair with dark mustache, cut off jean jacket and Khakis. He looks like a tattooed Backstreet Boy (no offense to the BSB) I would have probably blown a gasket had I had to wear that outfit also.
ugh, you’re right!! his outfit is offensive. it looks like 1992 projectile vomited on him.
Great…now I’ve got that “Thong Song” in my head.
Why is he still relevant? If beating up women isn’t enough to expire your 15 minutes on the fame meter – I have no idea what is.
I was shocked when I heard Bergeron “promoting” him on DWTS last night as I had really hoped he had gone away for good (is he really that musically talented to get on free pass on all past transgressions?).
If he does show up on DWTS I say let Wendy O Williams open up a can whoop ass on him. Now that’s entertainment!
I am no fan of Chris Brown, and believe he needs to leanr a little self control. However, here’s what Ms. Roberts should have asked, “So, Chris, you’ve been villified for hitting Rhianna…yet her latest musical release is an ode to the joys of S&M. How do you feel about that strange dichotomy and the irony?”
Until someone calls out Rhianna for encouraging violence against women, sticking it to Chris again over him hitting her should be dropped.
(And for those who don’t understand what I’m saying, I’ll rephrase. Chris is disgusting for hitting women in the first place…and his “victim” Rhianna is at fault for perpetuating a culture in which violence is acceptable.)
considerthis…Charlie Sheen has beaten up women, and even shot one…and he got a multi-million dollar contract shortly after.
If someone thinks they can make a buck of ya, nothing will kill the career.
@cattyfan: Yup. Mike Tyson beat his wife (Robin Givens) and was even convicted of rape. He still does movie cameos and recently eleasend an acclaimed documentary. I guess it only matters when the woman who gets beat up is an A-list celebrity. Otherwise, it won’t really affect one’s career. Blech!
Yeah…I don’t get the support for men who abuse women. I used to be a Mel Gibson fan…but I won’t go near anything he does now. Yet Jodie Foster was on my TV the other day talking about what a “wonderful, caring man” he is. What. The. Hell. People also seem to still love Tiger Woods…and any number of other sports celebs.
I really don’t get it.
I was thinking that, too, sarcasatire, that it only matters because it was Rihanna. I think of how all of the singers/rappers on his new song probably beat their girlfriends too but we never hear about it. It is sad. I will never be a Chris Brown supporter, and I’m glad that my fellow gasmii aren’t being as forgiving as the commenters on yahoo. As far as Rihanna, I used to be a huge Rihanna fan until she got on this whole sexual train, BUT I think she did the right thing when she was assaulted and I think that she is moving on the best way she can. There is no way that this did not affect her, and as bad as her new music is, I think that her actions speak LOUDer than her words about violence to women. I must say, though, I am really disappointed in her lyrics.
Just Peachy… TOTALLY with you on the whole Rihanna lyrics ‘new image’ she’s been sporting since the incident. I’m confused as to why all her lyrics are all a desperate attempt to prove she’s edgy? ‘I like the way you lie’ and so on….really? I’m not sure what her PR team is trying to accomplish but oversexualizing yourself in EVERY lyric, (also including S & M) just seems unnecessary considering the circumstances. Maybe it’s just me. But she annoys the heck out of me now.
It’s not just you. I was/am totally rooting for her, but unnecessary, desperate and oversexualized = perfect description.
Two consenting adults adults engaging in S&M isn’t exactly the same thing has having your boyfriend, husband, or a stranger beating the shit out of you in anger. Nor is singing about it. Even I sing along with Billie Holiday when she sings, “I’d rather my man would hit me than for him to jump up and quit me…” This doesn’t mean that I’m perpetrating violence against women or have this same view in my private life anymore than it means I’m a Christian merely because I love Christmas carols.
Unfortunately for Chris Brown, he reinforced the public’s opinion of him by reacting so violently post-interview.
@thajok… I see where you’re coming from and to some extent I agree. I’m not in any way trying to compare consenting S&M and what have you, to domestic violence, or violence of any kind. I guess to me, it’s just annoying that this reinvented image of Rihanna post the assault seems to contain a lot of controversial/risque/i want attention lyrics. Before she was ‘poppy’ and after, she’s now ‘edgy.’ I’m not saying she’s condoning violence, I just think it was an odd choice in the direction of her career, considering the circumstances. But to each their own…
I think it’s all BS for so many reasons. We have forgiven Charlie Sheen and even made him a hero for a period of time. We don’t vilify Mel Gibson, we let Lindsay and her drinking and driving go and root for her career…. yet, Chris Brown is the worst? I’m not a fan of any of the people I’ve mentioned and I’ve actually never liked Chris Brown before or after beating up Rihanna but if we’re going to let this stuff go with so many others, there is no reason we need to keep going at Chris Brown. When he redirected the questions she should’ve taken the cue and let it go. That’s not to say that he should’ve thrown a chair through the window but do you think she would’ve been that aggressive with another celebrity?
I just feel like they’re trying to break him down. When will they be happy? What does he need to say? I mean, I personally think he should’ve found something else to do after everything happened, producing or dancing–something that doesn’t come with promotional interviews.
I call foul on all of media treatment of this whole incident.
@thiajok, and I have to say if she is singing songs and selling them she should be more aware of what she says. Christmas Carols and Christianity are not the same thing. I do think you are responsible for what you say when what you say is being heard by so many people. If you are singing along with a song, that’s all good but would you sing that in front of a female child? Or even worse, a teenage girl? It’s putting out an image. If I sing that I like to have my butt grabbed when I walk down the street, and someone does it–Should I be surprised? I’m tired of the “I say this, but I don’t REALLY mean it” being passed of to get attention and make money.
I do agree with you regarding her change of direction after the ‘incident’… never sat well with me.
There’s a difference between Linds and Charlie. They are substance abusers so people want them to kick the habit so they aren’t in a coffin. These last few weeks I think people are laughing AT Charlie Sheen not with him so if I was Chris I wouldn’t want to be in the same boat as that guy to begin with.
Chris could have really save himself some heart ache. Instead of avoid/deflect the question he could have answered that he definitely made a mistake, he’s paid his debt to society and hopes that his experience shows some of his fans that violence is the wrong way to handle a situation. I am not sure what kind of PR people he has but he should fire them because it’s always best to hit a situation head on then try to act like it didn’t happen because all that’s going to do is give the reporter another opportunity to ask the question in a different manner. I mean unless you are Miss Andy and you let the housewives get away with their BS answers.
Oh, no, no, Jersey: don’t do that thing some people do of trying to make society raise their children for them. If the mothers and fathers of these teenage girls allow their kids to buy inappropriate music, watch inappropriate movies, etc., it’s not the fault of society–the parents who have children are responsible for shielding their kids from inappropriate material.
I agree thiajok. Some of the music these parents buy their children is inappropriate. I can’t stand to hear a 13 year old girl singing “Come here, rude boy, boy; can you get it up, Come here rude boy, boy; is you big enough” and their mother is right there. So if the Mother doesn’t correct the behavior, ie a teenage girl should not wonder is it big enough, then society is not to blame. The parents are.
I was on a cruise this past September and my friends daughter was in the kid’s talent show so we attended. The first girl to perform was 4 years old and she sang Kesha’s Tic Tok. There is something highly uncomfortable watching a small child sing ‘I’m talking about – everybody getting crunk, crunk – Boys trying to touch my junk, junk’ Her mother and grandmother were jumping up and down and singing along like it was perfectly okay. Then to make matters worse, her father arrived late and so she performed it a second time for him. I just can’t understand why the parents found that appropriate and cute. I fear for that child’s future!!
I just wanted to tell you all that this whole intelligent conversation about sex/violence/media/youth is reinforcing why I come here to begin with. I agree with everyone, because all of you have good points. And I really wish someone else had been given “S&M”, because I love that song, but I can’t bring myself to sing along with it considering what Rihanna has turned herself into after this whole Chris Brown debacle. There is a way to handle sexual maturity and growing up – but I don’t feel like hypersexualizing yourself in the wake of being a victem of domestic violence is the way to go. Especially when your projected demographic is young women.
@Thiajok, classydrunk, and mere2142: I’m 25. Everytime I look at Taylor Momen, I feel like I might be my own mom because I wonder why the hell a 17 year old is walking around wearing garter belts and skimpies as her everyday clothing. Same with Miley Cyrus.
I really don’t understandhow people are so quick to judge but slow to forgive..what he did was wrong, yes. But he was trying to redeem himself. Nobody wants him to forget or her for that matter. So, would everyone just be happy if he just lived up to his past and keep beating women? People go thru things and either try to change or not. It seems like he’s trying to change but nobody wants him too. They want him to stay the nillian. To suffer over and over again. Even she forgave him and moved on. But we can’t. smh I am team breezy and team riri for the simple fact that I’ve seen both sides personally and I am rooting for both…he that throws the first stone…
@Rosalind, violent crimes against women and children are generally tough to come back from. Especially if you are an entertainer. As an athlete it might be somewhat easier because you might still support a team but not the person on the team.
Bottom line…like the title says, the guy has anger issues and needs to get them addressed, period.
I have no room to talk. One of my first albums (when I was three) was the soundtrack from the Broadway musical Hair. Yeah…the lyrics were inappropriate for me to sing in public. Thanks, Mom and Dad.
I used to sing Never Gonna Get it and Giving Him Something He Can Feel by En Vouge and my mother used to get so mad. (I was about 10 at the time) I thought they were really talking about love not “loving”. I couldn’t understand why my mother wouldn’t let me sing those songs until I got older and got a taste of the “lovin” they were talking about.
I may be up for the Mother of the Year award because I’m going clubbin’ with my kid this weekend! Sure, she’s just a year old and the party is called Club Kids and runs from 3-8PM on a Sunday. It’s never to early to get your club on, amirite? It’s 80′s night, so we’re gonna dress up and guaranteed one of us is gonna toddle out of there like a drunken sailor in a milk stained tutu. Can’t wait!
I’m not saying that parents shouldn’t raise their children, but it does take a village in some ways. The problem is, there is no ‘standard’ anymore. Everyone wants to make a buck and they don’t even care what they’re saying. There are so many double meanings and subtleties to a lot of these songs-it can be hard to keep up. Why does it have to be, as someone said, so hypersexualized? I just think you have to be responsible for what you say. Whatever happened to that?
I agree with all of the comments here (sorry for the late response). With all the boozed and drugged up celebs out there, Chris Brown attempting TO make a comeback despite what he did is ballsy enough. Granted, what he did was wrong, it was vile to be honest, but he was at least not out there robbing, raping or killing which seems to be the result of fallen rapper/r&b artists.
Unfortunately, his display of anger may be even harder to come back from, because if you can destroy a window like that, what else CAN you do? I agree with Classy-you are a celebrity, you abused a woman, so getting hit with questions you should unfortunately come to expect and be able to answer. If you are truly sorry for it, and it shows with your answers, then it paves a road to some sort of redemption. Unfortunately in the area you chose to make your millions, it means your life is going to be exposed to the world in both good AND bad circumstances.
Buddy just dug himself a REAL big hole
In MY village, I don’t want to raise your kids, your dogs, your cats, your trash can lids, or your standards. You either deal with them yourself or I’ll pitch a fit.
Amen thiajok…if I wanted to help raise someone’s kid, me and Boyfriend would have one together. Which is why we never go to a restaurant during the hell that is “kids eat free” night. *shudders at the thought*
Same thing with animals…nothing against them, but don’t want them.
I have my own animals, but I see to it that they are not roaming the neighborhood or annoying anyone else. I expect the same in return. I’m not anti-kids for other people, but I don’t think that just because people have kids that I should have to mold my lifestyle to satisfy their life choice. I don’t typically complain that I have to pay school taxes regardless of the fact that I don’t have kids, yet the some of the family-oriented people complain about just about anything else that doesn’t concern the white-picket fence/Jesus/wholesome lifestyle and try to legislate it as being the standard for everyone.
So now, even though Hillary Clinton stated it first, it doesn’t take a village to raise kids. If it does, don’t have them.
“No” not “now”. And, off soapbox.
I always wished I was one of those people who could separate the person’s actions from their artistry, but alas I can’t. I got the Chris Brown album and it’s really good. (but I also like Britney Spears so take my rating with a grain of salt) It’s sucks that alot of people will miss out on it because he’s an idiot.
Oh and his publicist quit, as if she was doing any work to begin with.