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YES!!!!! at lest she’s not going to the mormon church where jesus would be her brother and she’d follow a multimillionaire prophet..
I wonder if Suri will be going to a Catholic school now.
That’ll knock the Scientology right out of her.
Man I remember Sister Hellouise. Her real name. Ok not the sister, but the Hellouise, yeah.
Went to a tiny Catholic high school (was in a graduating class of 17). We took our electives at the public school unless they were offered by the Catholic school. My junior year Sister Hellouise came along and taught art…great. So I battled with her for the year. Boy she had a nut on for me.
I was pissed because she taught on the grade school! It just scratched my nerves because I couldn’t take my art where I wanted to. (I am No great shakes at art in the first place). I may have told her that she was impeding my “vision” on a number of occasions.
I got so fed up that I dropped art my senior year and she still hounded me.
Our school was so small that we ate lunch in the grade school old gym which meant going over to the gradeschool since that is where the gym/lunchroom was.
My friends and I were too loud I guess walking through the halls to get to lunch.
She flew out on her broomstick and gave me a detention!
I yelled, “Sister, I don’t take your class anymore, you can’t give me ANYTHING!”
So she decided that she could start taking Christian Behavior points away. I almost had inschool suspension.
My classmates thought this was the funniest thing ever and started calling me Shellouise after that.
They still do when they want to give me a hard time.
So Katie leaves one cult for another. Schweet.
@Sheesh – great story! Way to fight the nun!
Oh I have MANY stories about that school.
Back in the day….(sigh) when you could pull some fucked up shit and it didn’t go on your permanent record.
I’ll have to tell the story of the time when all of the senior boys got detention for playing “Who Concert”
Huh how is the Catholic Church a cult Dear Crabby? Born and raised and no one had to come rescue me. I just stopped going.
Oh shiiiiiiit.
Me too labowner. Twelve years of catholic school, prayers before meals, prayers before bedtime, church every Sunday. Just stopped going.
Scientology seems to be more of a pyramid scheme. David Miscavige seems to have made it more cult-like. And now I guess someone will say that the Catholic Church is just an elaborate pyramid scheme as well.
My mother is a Protestan and father is a Catholic. Spent time in both churches/schools didn’t care for either but, once in college, a Scientology group approach me so I talk to dear old Dad about it he said (now this is a former NFL player in the OJ era we’re talking here, tough old battle axe) and he said to me with the most passion and seriousness I have even witnessed come out of him to NEVER and he meant NEVER go near ‘those’ people. He had a run in with them in the 70′s enough to scare him right back to church. (al la Katie, actually)
That’s why I choose Anonymous for my special cult gatherings fun masks, freaky viral videos, maching, it’s a hoot.
Go ahead, let the hate start… ;-D
Just tell her to keep her kid away from the priests. Wait, it’s a girl? Never mind then.
Catholicism, Mormonism, and Seventh Day Adventistism, to name a few, are all considered cults by the more fundamentalist protestant sects like the Church of God and certain Southern Baptists. Basically, any church other than theirs that has some identifiable figurehead is a cult and straight from the pit of Hell, in their reckoning.
I went to Catholic school and I turned out perfect…
@Nads
Damn straight you did!
LMAO @ Nads!
Sheesh, took the word right out of my mouth. I was raised in the Anglican church so I have absolutely no issues.
Hubbycat, however, has some terrific stories and it’s too much fun when he and his friends get together. Almost makes me wish I had gone to a Catholic school.
On second thought….
Oy.
Nothing will turn you off faster from the Catholic church than being raised in it!
Well…I was raised Catholic, and I have no problem with The Church. However, I’m Lutheran now. The liturgy is very similar, but there’s no veneration of Mary or the Saints.
Dad was an alter boy, Grandma had the Monseignor(sp) for dinner..blah blah blah. It all scared the shit out of me when I was a kid.
I was christened Episcopal because my Maternal family was Episcopalian: but that shit didn’t matter a bit to my Paternal Grandma! As soon as you walked in her door you were Catholic whether you wanted to be or not, Damnit!
Anyway, We were visiting them for a bit when I was little and my Grandma wanted me to go to a Catholic day school for a couple hrs a day during the school season. It was the same school that my Aunt attended, my Uncle attended.. My first day I climbed into one of those tall green metal trash cans and would not come out. The scary Nuns couldn’t even get me to come out.
They ended up announcing over the PA system in his class “Mark___” please go to room **.
My Uncle looked in the trashcan and told me to get out. I did. The day school said that I was probably not ready for day school yet. True Story.
This taught me that anytime I want to get out of doing anything ; All I have to do is climb in a tall trash can and refuse to come out. ;}
TC, Robin
I liked the New York Times story about this. Basically saying that Katie has done a great job of rebranding herself. Even making sure to wear her own label every single day. It’s hard for me to contemplate what it would take to plan so many different kinds of things and have them converge at the same time. The Scientology getaway, with the disposable phones and the security team, etc. The PR campaign with the Elle interview and the movies, etc. AND keeping on top of the fashion side of things for the papparazzi shots. All timed for when Tom would be in Iceland shooting his movie. When I got divorced it was hard enough for me to deal with my one lawyer and make sure I brushed my hair before I left the house every day to take my kids to school. Thank goodness I didn’t have a whole staff to manage!
OK.
I have zero of religious value to add to this discussion BUT, there is a mild typo at work here that made me think this article said “Katie Homeless is …”
Which is a hilarious snarky way to refer to her now. I don’t know if we will ever know the details but I picture her running from the money and lifestyle and clutching her child (both looking like the waif on the Les Miserables poster), being pursued by the grinning maniacal big bad Cruise. Of course in reality she has a viable career, child support and plenty to look forward to.
Also I now revoke my membership to Free Katie and will redouble my efforts to Free Vivi.
@Gypsy: “My mother is a Protestan and father is a Catholic.” Hmm…are your parents Anne Boleyn and Henry VIII? You know how that story ends, right? (With you as a Queen!)
@cattyfan: I was under the impression Lutherans were quite opposite of even opposed the beliefs of Catholics? I’m thinking of Martin Luther (of which the religion is named?) opposed the catholic Church, called it corrupt, and even nailed his thoughts to a cathedral door. At this time (1500′s?), those who followed him were burned as heretics. Mostly, his complaint was that Catholics weren’t allowed to have a personal relationship with God or read the bible and had to rely on priests and popes to tell them what they should know. The bible was also only in Latin and not allowed to be translated.
I assumed things have eased now, but I recently read a book on Thomas More (hence the Henry VIII reference) and Luther vs Catholic church is still fresh in my mind.
@MrsMiaWallace: Suri as Cosette? Hilarious!!!
@sarcasatire: Oh wait, that’s me. Ahem. My mom was raised Southern baptist, and baptist churches were the ones we occasionally went to, but she had a pretty open mind about religion, not what she practiced, but what we were exposed to. When school let out, she sent us to Seventh Day Adventist vacation bible school we spent the bulk of our summer vacation going there. (Most of the neighborhood kids were sent there, so we had fun. Plus, I played Joseph in the recital and afterwards, my dad took us to Coney Island just like it was a graduation!)
One summer, my aunt found another bible camp (African Methodist Episcopalian, I think) that took us on field trips instead of keeping us in church half the day, so we went there one year. At least we got to visit amusement parks, instead of just bible study and gospel songs. I also went to Catholic church when my friends received their communion, and in middle school, I hung out at the Masjid with my bff all the time, especially for the big Eid celebration when Ramadan ended. I even rode on a float with her and some of the congregation during the Muslim day Parade.
It’s all made me pretty tolerant to everyone’s beliefs, although Scientology is a little hard to swallow. My mom read Dianetics in the 80′s but i don’t think I could force myself to the same. So, perhaps I’m judging something I know little about but I’m okay with that. Ironically enough, the quieter Scientologists don’t seem as crazy as the ones who spout it from the rooftops. Tom Cruise is definitely bad PR for the religion.
@sarcasatire My dad is Lutheran and I big to church with a few times. The services are very similar to Catholic services, since the Lutheran church broke off from the Catholic church. Christianity is probable most confusing religion in the world, they are way to many branches of it. When I took Religious Studies when we studying Christianity the majority of chapter was devoted to explaining which branch broke off from which branch.
@cattyfan- ironically after I was raised in Catholic
School, I ended up going to a Lutheran College, and I found that Lutherans are just like Catholics but party harder-in the best way possible of course. I had a good time at my little Lutheran school…Didn’t learn a thing about religion, but learned how to put down a twelve pack of cheap beer without a hangover.
On another note everyone-sorry for the typo! Katie Homless is pretty funny…I almost
Don’t want to correct it. Ha.
@sagittariuskim: That reminds me of a joke I used to make as a teen. We were non-denominational Christians, so when people asked which branch I belonged to, I would say, “Christianity is my gang but I ain’t claimin’ no sets!”
@Robin, that story is hysterical. *goes to look for trash can at work*
Well great now I have Crystal Waters stuck in my head. She’s homeless she ‘s homeless…as she stands there singing for moneyyyy la da di la da da…Sigh…my poor co workers.
sarcasatire…Martin Luther had a problem with how the Church was being run, not the liturgy or the core beliefs. Catholics and Lutherans are very close in what they believe. But Nads is right…Lutherans know how to party, and with less guilt.
Thanks guys, for clearing that up. Makes sense now when you think about it. He seemed more upset that the church had so much power, which led to corruption, they were like government back then, and I guess he was against that more than anything.
Out of curiousity, what does a Lutheran church look like, architecturally speaking? I remember when the “heretics” (who at the time opposed the Catholic church, but I’m not sure if they later became Protestants or Lutherans) balked what they considered vulgar diplays of wealth in Catholic cathedrals, they “whitewashed” the churches: tore down statues, paintings, tapestries, anything of opulence, in exchange for a more simple decor. I just can’t remember which group did this.. Are Lutheran churches simply decorated or do they resemble cathedrals without the iconography?
Protestants are bare bones in their decor. UGH. I can’t comment on the Lutherans though.
@cattyfan, do Lutherans go to confession? Are the ministers called priests and/or they addressed as “Father”? Can a Lutheran minister forgive sin?
@Cranky, those are Episcopalians (you, know, the ones in the trash cans). Also, there is High Church Episcopal with all the trimmings (my dad said that our priest was bucking for Pope) and Low Church with modest, unadorned churches and Eucharist (Holy Communion) occasionally. Friends used to call us Catholic Lite. We also had an escape clause for marriage (thanks to Henry VIII), and our priests are the ones who flunked Latin.
Lifelong Lutheran here.
@crankyguy – No, Lutherans do not go to confession. There is a “general” prayer of confession during the service and then the Pastor (or Reverend) absolves them of their sins.
Just to confuse things even more – within the Lutheran church there are many synods. There is always, of coarse, bickering with any organization, and each synod seems to have their own slightly varied interpretation of the bible. Wisconsin, Missouri, LCA and ELC which combined to become ELCA. I even found a tiny church that called itself “Reformed Missouri Synod.” Some are ultra conservative (Wisc, Missouri and definitely Reformed MS) Women aren’t allowed to hold office within those synods. I was raised Missouri, but left and joined the ELCA when I was 17.
@ sac The church I attend now is a very bare bones, but I think that has more to do with lack of money than anything else. The church I attended as a youth was one of the most beautiful buildings you will ever see. Think wood, ornate altar with lots of curly q carvings. Organ with all the bells and whistles, velvet coverings at the communion rail and kneelers, at least 20 huge stained glass windows depicting all the “important” stories of the Bible. It was glorious and rivaled any of the Catholic Cathedrals or Basilicas in the area. They were celebrating their centenial 30 years ago. Today, no-one would be able to build something like that. It would just be too cost prohibitive.
Martin Luther was a Catholic Priest. He had no intention of starting a new church, he just wanted to change the Catholic church. Well, he was excommunicated and his followers were referred to as Lutherans. I believe he would actually be sad that a new religion started because of him. 450 years after he was excommunicated, the Catholic church lifted it.
@SSC, mrs crankyguy grew up Episcopalian, but left as soon as she started living on her own, so I have always called her Catholic Lite. I don’t know anything about the Lutherans, though. Episcopalian Lite?
@ sac – fyi – Lutherans are considered Protestants. I could be wrong on this but I think any church that is not Catholic, but considers themselves Christians are Protestants.
“do Lutherans go to confession? Are the ministers called priests and/or they addressed as “Father”? Can a Lutheran minister forgive sin?”
Actually, Lutheran CAN go to individual confession with the pastors if they wish, and yes, there is confession and absolution within the Liturgy, as well. A lutheran minister is referred to as Pastor or Reverend. And Lutheran ministers do forgive sin in the name of Jesus Christ, not of their own power.
I hope that helps