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Oh Nads– this party is just starting !!!!!!!!!!!
Well well well– patting myself on back. I called this six years ago– As I told Mr Cawfee “They wont make it to their 7th anniversary”. (I also called the Brad and Jen debacle). I am all about the love–I am not about the BS. Their whole relationship was just that.
So Katie is opting out of her contract and water is wet. Things we know—-lololol
It is BS but I think she’s just as weird as he is. There seems to be some level of Scientology that’s just too much for even the most professional beards to take.
My first thought…. Tom needs to hook up with John Travolta and they can both live happily ever after.
Yeah, it’s hard not to see a connection there. Like, Katie looked at the tabloids and thought, “It’s gonna come out about Tom too. No matter how much money we have.”
It cracks me up that no one is saying “she wants out of the marriage”; it’s “her contract is up”.
They have to know that we all know it was a sham to begin with, right? At least in Katie’s case?
I felt bad for Nicole during that divorce even though I wasn’t a fan of hers. I feel zero sympathy for Katie and am already feeling annoyed at the “poor Katie” references in the press. It’s not like he kidnapped her.
TMZ is saying it’s because of Scientology. She knew he was a nutty cult member when they got married, why does she wait 5 years until she files for divorce? Was there a 5 year clause in their pre-nup?
Some other sites say it’s to restart her career, “get out of Tom’s shadow.” She is, like, the world’s worst actress. She did get a couple of good parts after she married Tom, but then things stalled. If she plays the divorce right, and it looks like she will, she’ll get a second chance. It’s funny how both she and Nicole come from good, solid parents with successful professional careers. Catholic, too. Not good Scientology candidates, you’d think.
I will never forget that interview where she said Tom and Nicole’s kids call her “Mom.” And I will never forgive her!
My guess is @StageMom’s right. And 5 yrs was when the 1st big payday kicked in. And it wasn’t going to go up much again till 10.
So if you think about it you can just see her sitting there looking in the mirror. Touching her face like people in the movies when they’re wondering if they look old yet. And trying to figure out if she can stand it for another 5 yrs to get the next chunk. Thinking about how Suri’d be a tween by then.
She’ll get lots of $ for her post divorce TV interviews and stuff anyway. And photo shoots for Suri. Even if the prenup says she has to give back all the the marriage and uterental fees plus her 5 yr bonus if she talks about certain things. Like if she ever saw any of his body parts. Or his extra terrestrial status.
Two words: Lavender marriage.
More words: I’ll agree that Katie Holmes isn’t Meryl Streep, but before Tom, she chose some decent movies like “Go,” “Wonder Boys,” “The Gift,” and “Pieces of April.” After marrying Tom, she did weird shit like dancing to a Judy Garland homage on “Dancing With the Stars.” (Or “So You Think You Can Dance” or “Soul Train” or something.) She needs to get the hell out of that relationship prontito. Whether or not he’s gay, it’s no secret that Tom is a megalomaniacal crazy controlling weird-ass. Just watching him in interviews makes me nervous. And I think the best thing for Suri is to get the hell away from him. I’m glad she’s asking for full custody and I hope she gets it.
Also, I read somewhere that Katie will be 34 when the divorce is finalized. Just like Tom’s first wife, Mimi Rogers. And just like his second wife, Nicole Kidman.
(The age might be 33. Regardless, all his wives were the same age when they divorced Tom Cruise. So maybe there’s an age limit in the contract. Or maybe 33 is the age when a lady’s Xenu essences begin depleting.)
Mimi Rogers was older than Tom. And she was the one who introduced him to Scientology. Just throwing that into the mix.
I’m kinda envisioning it as the great escape. She had hand signal to divert the Scientology bodyguards and ran to an escape car, that then drove her and suri with new passports and baseball caps, to a train station where they changed onto a different train mid ride, all the time still being chased by the Scientology people. So kinda like the Bourne identity, but noone got their asses kicked… That we know of:)
My guess is because Katie got pregnant two months after they began dating, it was kind of a shotgun wedding. I don’t think “baby daddy” fits into Tom’s idea of himself. So, they married, hada baby, and slowly his crazy began to leak out. But since he worked so much, she didn’t have to see him often so it was okay. But now that Suri is 6 yrs old, she will have to be inducted into the Church, which will affect what type of schooling she receives and who she associates with. (Answer: No one who isn’t a Scientologist.)
This is why she is asking for sole custody; a Scientologist member cannot actively socialize with someone who isn’t. (Which is why Nicole Kidman’s children were not allowed to maintain contact with her. Although, I do believe her daughter Isabelle has broken away from the church and is being raised by Tom’s sister and may be in contact with Nicole again.) Either way, if only one parent is a Scientologist, there cannot really be joint custody, in their eyes. Let’s hope he does the right thing and lets Suri be raised by Katie.
I’m all about choosing the religion (or lack thereof) that works for you, but why are there so many strange and harsh rules with Scientology? It’s actually confusing and frightening to me.
Annnnnnd now I’m gonna put the lid back on the can of worms I probably just opened. I’m not here for a theology debate! Just a thought I had, people.
Ok, here is what I have been thinking ever since these two got married…Suri was never Tom’s baby…She was daiting Chris Klein, the dorky football player in American Pie. I still think that Suri is his, and not that weirdo Tom’s! I think they broke up, she found out she was pregs right after she started seeing Tom and now they are headed to divorce…Just my thoughts as well. I don’t see what she ever saw in him!! Were they already married when he went batshit and jumped on Oprah’s couch?!?
Funny how the People Magazine I just read said that they would be spending his 50th birthday together where ever it is he is filming…
@thisbuggs: They got married after Suri was born. I always felt like Katie was so flattered and overwhelmed by his intensity and love for her that she just got caught up in a whirlwind. I remember reading that she was a virgin, waiting for marriage. Not sure how true it is, but hearing Tom talk about how he rented a fancy hotel room and smeared it with rose petals and candles that he just wooed the girl until her womb was full. Coming from a strict Christian (Catholic?) family, marriage was the next step. I’m not sure Tom’s religion anent controlling ways were apparent until after the wedding. Then he changed her style of dress, tried to make us call her “Kate”, and turned her into a Stepford wife with no identity outside of her connection to him. Run, Katie, and don’t look back!
When it comes to love, who wouldn’t marry a man that jumps on Oprah’s couch to express his devotion? If Steadman treaded on Oprah’s furniture, he’d be sporting a massive rock by now.
But hasn’t Tom’s sister always looked after Connor and “Bella” when they were with Tomkat? That’s what a segment of the rumor mill says, anyway. I assumed she was as into Scientology as he is. I think Tom is whack, of course, but I don’t think he was making Katie dress Suri the way she was. Something’s not right with Katie too.
The whole point of Scientology is that it makes you successful, right? It would seem it only works if you keep it secret. The second these actors start actively promoting it is the second their careers peak. And people believe the most insane things about Tom. Partly because he’s weird, but mostly because he’s a Scientologist. The Chris Klein thing is the tip of the iceberg!
@15 Sarcasty– thank you– was really confused about some of the points. I thought that too– it was becoming time for Suri to receive some religous training and Katie set the wheels in motion for divorce.
@11 and 12 Hypno– “lavendar marriage” bbwwwaahhhaaaa— am totally Bogarting that and giving you the creds~~~~~
and 16 Hypno– me too. I guess its like Alexis and Jim Bellina Christianity
Hot Damn– am ready for the interviews, all the insiders spilling their guts and the big interview!!!!!!
I actually really like Katie, and based on what was “public knowledge” of her before she married Tom, she always seemed like the sweet girl next door. I really DO wonder how much was “oops, I’m pregnant – I HAVE to get married” that turned into “Sweet Baby Jesus, this man is C-R-A-Z-Y and I need to get my daughter away from him”.
I mean, her view of Tom Cruise was the guy in “Top Gun” and “Risky Business”. COME ON – you can deny it online, but I would bet there are PLENTY of ya’ll out there who would have slept with that Tom Cruise. Then you get knocked up – uh, oh – not good for Good Catholic Girls. Her only option was to marry him. It’s not like she knew Nicole’s side of the story, I’m sure she thought either she could change him, or it wasn’t really that bad (the Scientology thing).
Then came the “silent birth” (ya’ll remember that Scientology-must-do?). How long does it take any woman to risk walking away with her child? It’s NOT easy for those of us who don’t have cameras and crazy people around at all times. I’m not saying she was a hostage, but I imagine it took a lot longer to plan her escape – and see just how much Scientology was going to be a part of Suri if she stayed.
Not blaming everything on Cruise, nor giving Katie Holmes a free pass, but this story DOES lend itself to a lot more of cray-cray-Tom and gotta-get-out-of-here-Katie…
Katie was no virgin, I went to high school with her here in Toledo. Suri is Chris Klien’s child, she looks just like him!
Neither one of Tom’s previous wives could get pregnant while they were with him, and both of them have made comments about his infertility issues after they were divorced. I think Katie was just tired of crazy Tom & his crazy lifestyle.
Nicole had two miscarriages while she was married to Tom. The Andrew Morton book, for what it’s worth, offered evidence that Nicole had a DNA test done on the second one (which happened during the divorce proceedings) and it was Tom’s baby. There are crazy rumors about all of Tom’s kids. LOTS of people think that Connor is really Tom’s son, for instance. Because he looks “exactly like him.” People also rail — RAIL — against both Tom and Nicole for making more fuss over their biological children than the adopted ones, because there are way less pictures of the adopted kids. I remember at the time, though, that Tom and Nicole were pretty fanatical about keeping Connor and Bella out of the public eye. I know that Scientology is a nasty thing to come up against but I don’t think it’s as sinister or powerful as people make it out to be. If it were, no one would even know about the stalking of Matt Stone and Trey Parker, for instance.
Look on the bright side: being Mrs. Tom Cruise got her a meeting with Nicolas Sarkozy. That has to be worth something, right? Right?
The fact is, we’ll never know the truth about any of this. Even if there is a tell-all book someday, I wouldn’t believe a word that either of these two said. Yes, Tom is a headcase. But I wouldn’t shower sympathy on Katie. She’s an adult woman with money and contacts of her own; she wasn’t tied up and unable to escape all this time. And if she did marry him because there was a baby and marriage was “the right thing to do” it’s her own fault for letting that thinking bind her into a committment.
Personally, I think she was just young and dumb and married Tom believing she was going to get the man we all remember from his older movies (you know, the ones she GREW UP watching). He was always old for her, and always nuts. They’re both responsible for this farce of a marriage and for its ending.
Began raising eyebrows in Katie’s direction when I began seeing all those pics of Suri in heels, and in a bankie being carried by Katie.
Lived a few blocks from the house where scenes from “Top Gun” were filmed. Last time I saw it it was boarded up and falling into decay, but we used to drive/walk by and I would sigh and remember the crushes I had on Tom and Val.
Good times.
This is only fair, because Mr. Sugarbush and I married only a few months after they did. Just a couple of weeks before our wedding, I read in a magazine that they had their first dance to “Songbird”, which was going to be my bridal march song. I was so pissed that people might think we chose that song because of them instead of the real reason, which was that it was “our song” long before Tom and Katie even started dating. I knew that move on their part would bring a shitstorm of karma onto their marriage.
Tee hee, Tom and Katie. Tee fuckin’ hee.
@skychickie – Yes! Like “Not Without My Daughter”! They could do a movie about this and it could be the first interesting thing Katie Holmes has ever starred in.
@maryedith—- I wouldn’t feel tooooo sorry for Nicole. Katie isn’t the only one who had a contract
Althought it’s not reported, Tom is 100% swinging for his own team and has been, for decades. Being part of a “power couple”, also see George Clooney and plug in any girlfriend in the last decade, is business for these couples. I, of course, can’t give sources but I can say that with 100% conviction.
And I’m sorry if this has already been stated, but from what I understand, when a child turns 6 in Scientology they can be subjogated (sp?) to security checks by a moral officer of the church- which includes a very thorough list of questions and and an interrogation like process. So there is some speculation that she wanted to get Suri out before those began.
Late to the party here . . . last I heard, you actually have to have sex to make a baby (or at least use a doctor’s help) Katie had suspicious baby bumps all through pregnancy, and it was speculated at the time that Suri was born months before they announced it, but they had to keep the charade going to make it seem like it was Tom’s. I believe the Chris Klien theory. I also thought the couch thing was to lend credibility to the speedy marriage and pregnancy. Look at any picture of them kissing, and the fakeness is glaring. As a gay man, I think I could kiss a woman more convincingly than he can.
I used to hate Tommy Girl with a passion, but it wasn’t worth the energy. I kind of pity him now. And since defectors from Scientology have been revealing policies etc from their ranks, marriage seems to always be arranged, and families are not encouraged to be together or spend time together. Beyond weird. Maybe John Travolta will finally come out and inspire Tom. His career is fair to middling at this point anyway, maybe it would give him a boost.
Are there any gay Scientologists? I would be curious . . .
oh, and if he doesn’t fight for custody, or win it, my guess is Suri was hers when they signed the contract . . .
I thought Tom’s sister was deep in the scientology world too.
Oh for goodness sakes; she knew he was in a few good men before she married him.
I do not like TC in the least little bit; I think he is an arrogant, egotistical, egomaniac. The fact that he chose another egomaniac’s sofa to jump up and down on while declaring his love for his new hook-up; while at the same time disparaging the mother of his children by saying that he has never loved a woman like the woman he is jumping on the sofa for shows how callous he is. Did the mother of his kids need to see that?
I can’t believe that Katie didn’t know what she was getting herself into. Or at least, she had to have a hint. Then again, maybe she really did think she could change him but then the Science Fiction shit got too deep and she realised that one of these days Tom may take her kid on a big bouncy Ocra Winfrey couch in the sky?
While I am handing out my opinion, I also think he hooked up with her because they look so much alike and any kid produced during this union would throw skeptics off.
TC, Robin
@Stagemom, Tom’s sister is indeed deep in the Scientology world.
@captain, It’s not so much that I feel sorry for Nicole as that I’m amazed at how one little distortion can turn into a received fact on which these celebrities’ storylines get based. Katie has a spin machine as strong as Tom’s, apparently, and we won’t hear anything about either one of them other than what their publicists orchestrate. But it’s going to be interesting to see which team comes out on top.
People talk about how young Katie was when she and Tom married, but she was 28. A lot younger than him, but not too young to know what she was doing.
Katie got pregnant two months into dating. How many of us were caught up in a whirlwind romance of infatuation after two months, only to find out a year or two (or twenty) later that you’re tied to an asshole? Many people try to make it work for the kids and many just throw their hands in the air and say, “Welp, I tried.”
Tom should get the kid.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a pic of Tom and Suri alone. Heck, his kids with Nicole Kidman are raised by his sister. I’m just not sure Tom possesses a, erm…maternal instinct.