The Real Housewives of New Jersey Part 2, Thoughts??

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   Where's My Coffee?
   Posted October 24, 2011 at 4:46 am

   My observations over this season & the reunion:

   For as shallow is this will sound, Caroline has GOT to do something with her hair. It always looks like she should have had a trim 3 weeks ago. It makes her face look like a deflated balloon. The scowl she sported during the entire reunion didn’t help the face either.

   Is Teresa narcisstic or what?? I cannot believe they were talking about Kathy’s daughter nearly dying @ age 10, and Teresa found a way to bring it all back to her. I know Kathy doesn’t like to confront Teresa, but that’s exactly the moment she should have gone off on her.

   I think Andy was a bit ridiculous with the F word attack to be honest. Teresa didn’t say it, her husband did. Yeah, it’s ugly but what’s Teresa suppose to do about how an adult talks? Every single one of them talks like a Neanderthal. With all the problems she created, this was the only thing that had little to do with her.

   But I do think F word-gate is the nail in Teresa’s RHoNJ coffin. Andy had clearly lost all patience with her throughout this reunion, and it was obvious she’s heading the way of Jill Zarin. Once Andy starting going off on Joe’s use of that word, I knew he was done with them.

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   bubblesballentine
   Posted October 24, 2011 at 5:37 am

   baby jesus weeps every time that troglodyte opens her screechy yapper. cant say im a caroline fan either, tho i do feel a tiny smidge of sympathy for her after reading dinas novella…who does that to their own sister after seeing them cry on national tv over their estrangement???

   oh, ya, i forgot…that would be yet another reality tv hooker with her own agenda.

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   whoochile
   Posted October 24, 2011 at 5:42 am

   I know Tre is a total psycho mean-girl bitchy pants, but Caroline drives me more crazy. I can’t stand her sanctimonius attitude.
   This finale part 2 was totally unnecessary, esp going an extra 15 mins, the whole season could have been wrapped up in one episode

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   Iona Trailer
   Posted October 24, 2011 at 5:56 am

   Teresa got off easy. She was far worse and cruel to Danielle in the past two reunions. What would have made it better was to drag Kim G back for a dig a Teresa. I have no issue with Caroline this year. She’s a mama bear and she will protect at all times. I like that she said Kathy and Mel were good people because I believe they are……

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   whoochile
   Posted October 24, 2011 at 5:59 am

   Also, if Miss Andy seriously thinks that all the other husbands don’t say the “f word” he’s lost his mind. Did you see the other ladies squirming around trying to figure out how to deny it?

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   kthxbai
   Posted October 24, 2011 at 6:05 am

   I wonder if some of the sponsors might’ve said something about some of the stuff with Teresa’s kids and maybe now they’re having infighting with some of them thinking they shouldn’t have shown some of it.

   She sits there and tells Andy she understands stuff like a kid telling their teacher they understand fractions when they don’t even know what the word means.

   I’m not sure I should be making fun of her anymore or not but I’m totally sure she doesn’t need to be on TV.

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   classy drunk
   Posted October 24, 2011 at 6:16 am

   I hate that they were already filming the new season so they were instructed not to talk about certain things. Even though I already know the outcome I will still watch to see how it unfolds, but it pisses me off for them to bring something up but they can’t talk about it. Then a year later they want to tell me what happened when it’s no longer relevant.

   Since I don’t like Tre or Caroline I didn’t have a side in this battle. I thought they both came off looking pretty bad.

   I don’t think they ganged up on Tre that much either. It definitely wasn’t like how the NY girls ganged up on Alex in the last season reunion.

   Where’s Danielle and Kim G? They really would have spiced things up. I love when they play that bit on WWHL of Kim G’s “How are you?” That’s classic.

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   Iona Trailer
   Posted October 24, 2011 at 6:24 am

   The irony of the “F” word with these men is that they act gayer than Miss Andy and Big Gay Greg.

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   TWhit
   Posted October 24, 2011 at 6:41 am

   I will give Tre this…she didn’t run off cryin’, all in a fetal position, calling people terrorists like Danielle did. I hope she doesn’t take offense to that statement.

   That being said, girlfriend had me CACKLING last night.

   “SHE SAID MY CHILDREN WERE UNATTENDED!”

   “She….WAS unattended.”

   “I DIDN’T LIKE HER TONE!”

   “Was just pointing it out.”

   “Awww okay.”

   Two seconds later….”YOU SAID AUDRIANA WAS…”

   “SHEEEE WAAAAAAAAAAS!”

   “Awww okay.”

   I was hoping they’d try a little reverse psychology, because she was going to argue with everything they said.

   All in all I thought it was the best reunion show yet. The only thing I wish they would have done was get more into the Caroline kicking Kim G out of Melissa’s house thing. That episode is where I started swaying toward the Gorgas. Everybody fell ALL over themselves for Teresa during that show, including Melissa and Caroline. (Yeah everybody hated Kim G. but it all boiled down to her 1) invited that one lawyer chic who’s name I can’t remember and 2) running her mouth about Tre.)

   Kudos for Kathy for not snapping Tre’s neck like Chuck Norris during the Victoria Tumor Story. I was seriously waiting on her to take a chunk out.

   Kudos to Andy for being tough this reunion.

   In other news, Dina explained nothing to me except why she’s been photographed with Teresa twice in the past few months. Thanks. Also, if you’ve been keeping up with Danielle, she claims Ashley/Ashlee/Asslee called her the other day and she HAS A RECORDING. Which I have so many questions as to why one would have a recording of a spontaneous phone call.

   I’M GONNA MISS YOU JOYSIE!!!!

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    straighttohell
    Posted October 24, 2011 at 7:36 am

    Last night was fun! I don’t feel bad for Tre, girl can handle herself, plus she is such a bullshitter she gets what she deserves.

    Jackie commented so much on the show on her Twitter it would have probably been better for her to be there last night!

    Can’t wait for the “ladies” of Atlanta, and new ep of RHOBH!!!

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    Tmurda
    Posted October 24, 2011 at 7:44 am

    Everyone has an issue with how sanctimonius caro is, but, mind you, she happens to be right like 95% of the time with what she’s saying, so she has every right to be “all preach-y”, imo.

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    straighttohell
    Posted October 24, 2011 at 8:02 am

    Lol, new drinking game: every time someone says “sanctimonius” take a sip!!

    But yeah, Caroline’s head is way too big, but I think a lot of the time she IS right on. But no fear, those that hate Caroline, methinks Andy may not be so in love with her anymore. I wonder if Caroline can handle getting dog-piled on?

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    Jason
    Posted October 24, 2011 at 8:07 am

    Theresa is a buffoonish ignorant a-hole, but Caroline is also a mega a-hole needs to be Jeff Galloolied in the shins each times she yaps about “moy fyameleeee.” Please, lady, your sons are grown up and in their 20s, and just because Theresa made a comment about their ridiculous (and failed) stripper/car-wash business, doesn’t necessitate you acting like a rabid dog. And lets get this straight – you didn’t exactly raise the Kennedy boys. Not one of that bunch is going to Harvard, joining the Marine corps, becoming a doctor, lawyer, scientist, or Senator. They’re about as bottom of the barrel as you can get.

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    Tmurda
    Posted October 24, 2011 at 8:22 am

    @Jason-Ok, I love caro, but THAT was some funny shit….true true.
    @straighttohell- sanctimonious

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    TWhit
    Posted October 24, 2011 at 8:24 am

    “Sanctimonious” is the new “youse”.

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    baymenxpac
    Posted October 24, 2011 at 9:18 am

    hold on, jason. why are albie and chris “bottom of the barrel”? because they didn’t go to harvard? or they’re not in one of the five occupations you’ve listen as acceptable? that doesn’t seem to make much sense.

    listen, i’m aware that this is a TV show and this is only a snapshot of these people’s lives, amplified by cameras. but i don’t get what’s to hate about caroline. take the made-for-TV dramatics away and you seem to have a woman who raised three caring kids who are respectable people, working hard to find themselves in the world. i think that would qualify as success for a mother.

    teresa, one the other hand, is a complete and utter mess. she’s disrespectful, spiteful, inarticulate, unintelligent and completely full of herself. i don’t get why she gets any sympathy for being “ganged up” on. she seemed to initiate all of that drama herself with her cutting remarks and her pettiness.

    and i’m sorry, but melissa and kathy must have a place in reserved for them in heaven already. imagine the soul-sucking proposition it must be to be a part of that family. it’s fairly obvious that melissa puts her marriage to joe before all else. it’s the only explanation that she could put up with everything teresa throws at her and STILL work towards having a relationship with her.

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    whoochile
    Posted October 24, 2011 at 10:06 am

    Sanctimonious!!
    Also, “go scratch”, what does that even mean? Ha, she’s nuts

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    Gypsy
    Posted October 24, 2011 at 10:08 am

    Listen youse sanctimonious Gasmii, I am on Team Neither. I don’t care for Tre but I don’t like Caroline either. God damn she is so annoying. And, to the above comment I agree, hate her or love her Tre held her own, kinda impressive even if it was out of stupidity. I (unforch) have a Tre in my family and trust some Italians love a good grudge to hold onto so they can exact revenge. It’s what some Italian families live for and it’s sad.
    I was hella proud of Miss Andy last night, not matter the content he held that panel down and didn’t let it get out of hand and he put those dumb bitches in their places. (Tre/Caro)

    WWHL with Andy Ripa and Consuelos was hilarious btw!

    And oh yeah: GO SCRATCH!

    I’m with Jacqueline, bring on RHOATL!

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    Pam
    Posted October 24, 2011 at 10:15 am

    Andy needs to have the clips ready from the show that back up his questions, etc. and show Teresa what a lying fruit bag she is. She is allowed to lie and rewrite history, when there are clips from the show
    which would prove what a liar she is! Get busy, Andy!

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    Sassygrl72
    Posted October 24, 2011 at 10:18 am

    All of them are guilty of the same damn behavior. Honestly, Jaq may have been the only one to not be TOTALLY snide behind someone else’s back. For Melissa to claim she didn’t talk about Teresa and Joe’s money problems, or for her to have a list of nasty things Teresa said about her is a joke. Same goes for Caroline. She’s been talking behind Tre’s back for the last 2 seasons and her kids are no better…especially her moody, miserable with herself, daughter. Then the Manzo clan adds Greg, who constantly bashes Tre, but she’s the main reason the show is popular, giving him ANY reasons to even be relevant. And Kathy, she has her snide moments, but isn’t overall horrible. He husband and son (on Twitter) though…awful. If she isn’t stopping it, she is just as guilty of it IMO.

    Oh, one more thing about Caroline, she screamed about Tre getting involved in her family business, but what was Caroline doing last night? She took every opportunity she could to stir the family pot.

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    Sassygrl72
    Posted October 24, 2011 at 10:21 am

    I think that what Caroline hates the most about Tre is that Tre isn’t scared of her and won’t back down. Whatever the reason, a bully hates the person they can’t do just that to.

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    Gypsy
    Posted October 24, 2011 at 10:22 am

    @Sassygrl72- A-M-E-N!

    Mind ya own biznazz Caroline manzo you sanctimonious hag!

    (Still not excusing Tre or the rest but really, you nailed it)

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    sarcasatire
    Posted October 24, 2011 at 10:57 am

    Caroline is a hypocrite, plain and simple. Sure, she seems wise and ‘always right’, she’s stating the obvious. And it’s always easy to be objective when you are looking at others and not yourself. She tells Teresa about her beef with her brother, “It’s fambly. Fix it!” Yet she hasn’t ‘fixed her feud with Dina. She then scolds Teresa for being mean to and blaming her feud with Joe on his wife Melissa. Yet Caroline blames her feud with Dina on Teresa. This is why Caroline looks like such an asshole..she is both sanctimonious (ha!) and extremely lacking in self-awareness. If she had just a touch of humility, she would be tolerable. If she had a smidge of an original thought, she would be wise. But all we’re stuck with is the ‘elder’ of a clan of dimwits. A prestigious position it must be, to lord over other other idiots.

    I can’t wait for a crossover…I wanna see a Kyle/Caroline showdown.

    Melissa contacted Danielle to spread family dirt about Tre at last season’s reunion. That was what led to Melissa being casted for the show. If you don’t think that girl is a manipulative, double-dealer, I got news for you. Next season she will be the villain, but I was hoping it would be Caroline.

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    PlathAddict
    Posted October 24, 2011 at 11:01 am

    So, did I misunderstand something, or did Caroline basically call her daughter ugly because she’s fat? Because, that right there, is mother of the year material. Especially, since we all saw just how “tiny” Caroline was in Season 1.

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    roger
    Posted October 24, 2011 at 11:49 am

    @sarcasatire: YES! in the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king.

    did caro say that she is on speaking terms with 8 of her 11 siblings? does albert really NEED a full apartment at the brownstone if their house is 8 miles away? maybe bravo viewers see as much of albert as caroline does.

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    Gypsy
    Posted October 24, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    This thread is killing it right now, I can’t wait for the recap!

    Of course Melissa is a double dealer look at her sister in law. IMHO, they are all escapees from the mental ward.

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    Fan-Ann
    Posted October 24, 2011 at 1:36 pm

    Gosh, the reunion was positively Shakespearean: “a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing”. Melissa and Kathy must have had good advice before the taping, because they both managed to not humiliate themselves. But watching both Teresa and Caroline come unwound was kind of stunning. Teresa piling up the lies and language atrocities, Caroline steaming and finally combusting into shrill accusations. WWHL was great with Ripa and Consuelos doing their send-ups of Teresa/Juicy and Melissa/Midge.

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    someguy
    Posted October 24, 2011 at 4:38 pm

    The gay men on this show have sex with there wife’s as often as they don’t care what the brand of something is are happy for another person.
    They all suck.CPS get Termessa off the show and try and save what’s left of those poor kids.It might not be to late for the younger ones not to grow to be A-holes like there folks.

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    Tmurda
    Posted October 24, 2011 at 6:03 pm

    @Pam-WORD! It’s bullshit m when a HW denies something she said/did ON CAMERA & HAS AIRED, yet these reunion shows NEVER have a the clip on tap to parallel as proof. THAT is the reason behind what some call tre’s “fearlessness”. Shit, I’d come out guns blazin’ too if I knew I could just say “whatever” to every single regretful thing when called out for it! Bravo knows that certain things filmed/aired are/were debated amongst cast members, therefore, they know these things will be brought up at the reunion, and the scene in question should be ready to settle the discrepency. Um, especially since the majority of these things ARE FUCKING BROUGHT UP BY ANDY HERSELF! I find myself pissed off after every single reunion ep, cause ONCE AGAIN, the entire hour consists of bitch getting called out, denying her ass off, followed by declaring all who disagree are crazy liars, and finally saved by Andy’s eggshell walk on to the next soon-to-be-unresolved debacle. Yawn. But at the end of the day, I guess the joke’s on me for tuning in without fail, hoping that just one time, andy will grant my wish of the mumbled/twitchy explanation of a HW who’s denial response has been immediately followed by aired proof of the contrary. Damage control isn’t exactly a for-tay of an individual such as tre’s kind (as in,w/ an I.Q. of 4),and hilarious to watch. I bet you the “fearless teresa”, minus balls, wouldn’t be doing her “bring it bitches” (complete with “cmon”-style hand motions)crap. She, Phaedra, Michale, Gretchen, and Danielle are all cut from the same cloth when it comes to that shit, and people like that are beyond reasoning with. The phrase “We lie the loudest when we lie to ourselves”was beaten into my head while in rehab, & always comes to mind when watching the chicks listed above. The billion of us out here watching endless hours of this nonsense deserve the satisfaction of observing accountability on some level.Such footage was conveniently accessible enough to re-run 509 times throughout the season up to this point, so bravo has no excuse. My point to this comment/novel is that normal people don’t get to act like assholes without having to answer for ourselves at some point, nor are we given “props” or considered “fearless” when we refuse to be adult enough to own up to them. Andy isn’t around to enable & pretend-mediate me out of my missteps. I’m basically just bitter that I’m never EVER let off the hook when Ive had a moment of Cunt-ish behavior. Iv’e spent 28yrs now being forced to face my faults/character defects due to others’ refusal to ignore them. Dammit….where’s MY Andy Cohen!!!! Whaaa! Learning from mistakes is haaarrrrrrd!
    PS- Someone please explain to tre that A) Calling someone “The Exorcist” makes zero sense, since there’s nothing really offensive about being compared to a catholic priest who performs a ritual-like removal of satanic-like possesion from a possessed person, as opposed to the pea-soup spewing, cross-fucking fictional demon Tre was attempting to compare caro to. FAIL. B) The fact that she used Melissa’s choice of red attire to “back-up” her 3rd grade devil insult is not only lame on a retarded/illogical level, it’s lame on a stolen-from-Danielle-season-2-finale level. Caro is a clown cause her hair is red, and Mel is clearly Beelzebub Gorga in her red dress/satan uniform. Got it. Thanks D and tre for making sense of such crucial confusion. And C) Any chance of her raising her 4 kids on her own without help from a nanny impressing a person of the slightest intelligence is a perfect example of her delusion, since she has the worst parenting skills on the planet. Phew.

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    Tmurda
    Posted October 24, 2011 at 6:35 pm

    Uh…Dear Flipit, If you could somehow adjust the format/font/whatever of this “comment” text space to match what will appear after it’s submitted, i’ll totes fly out for a night and take you out for drinks and a BJ on my (well, technically my parents’) dollar. If the comments box insists on turning what feels/seems like a paragraph into a pathetic/obsessive thesus on the housewives as it magically appears on the site, then I’d appreciate the option to remove it, and edit it down to a less-psychotic looking length, mmkay? LOL. Ugh. The real HWs always find a way to make me feel the shame and embarrassement God intended for them. Those bitches are tricky like that, so being tricked by this comment box/optical illusion is just wrong. I’m looking at 4 lines of a valid and casual contribution, yet tvgasm will make a tool out of me in 3…..2….

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    Tmurda
    Posted October 24, 2011 at 6:41 pm

    .. 1! Poof! Grrrr…..I must find Bozo-The-Exorcist to rid me of the evil bravo has flooded my life with (as seen above).

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    Flipit
    Posted October 24, 2011 at 6:41 pm

    LOL!! i know tmurda and I am sorry. We are working on implementing a new system and integrating facebook commenting. I’m on it!

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    Tmurda
    Posted October 24, 2011 at 6:45 pm

    Love you boo. U make me feel better now. U ARE the Andy-to-my-teresa! And I love your enabling-ass for it! Smooches!

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    shana
    Posted October 25, 2011 at 4:28 am

    @ PlathAddict: I was shocked and disgusted about Caro’s comment about Lauren–”If I can’t tell my child you need to lose some weight, than who can?” Uh, the rest of the world! You are there to support, not call your kid ugly because of extra pounds. Sheesh! Parenting 101, Smartass!

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    hot cawfee
    Posted October 25, 2011 at 6:11 am

    a little dissapointed that the menfolks were not involved in the reunions–nor were housewives in training– Lauren, Milania and Gay Greg.
    Theresa- I shake my head- you are the most deluded, barely literate person I have ever met. Fame has obviously gone to your head and it is frighteningly obvious that you see no wrong-doing in your behavior legal or otherwise.
    And yes– someone tipped off Mel and Kathy to keep quiet and you wont look foolish—smart girls.
    When are the out-takes coming????
    @Shana and @Plath— Yes– omgl– how can she say that ??? Her beloved Critterfur is porking up quite nicely and no way will Caro comment on that. Be nice Caro– who do you think will be changing your diapers some day ???

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    Gypsy
    Posted October 25, 2011 at 10:01 am

    @ Tmurda- this might be too much work but, I since I read/comment through out the day during work, I get timed out often. So, I type my response on a word doc and cut and paste as a work around. I still make the occasional ridic typo (See: FLIPTIT.) but it helps with the formatting.

    Just a thought…

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    Sassygrl72
    Posted October 25, 2011 at 10:11 am

    Everyone keeps calling Tre an idiot, but she can’t be all that dumb given the way she has marketed the hell out of herself. Why change (idiot and delusional bitch) what sells?? Think about it.

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    sarcasatire
    Posted October 25, 2011 at 10:31 am

    @sassygrl: Another reason Caroline is bitter/jealous of Teresa. Teresa marketed herself and got two best-selling cookbooks out of her HWs stint while Caroline got an internship spouting platitudes on some obscure radio station, bitch ain’t even get paid! Sad horns.

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    Tmurda
    Posted October 25, 2011 at 4:38 pm

    @Gypsy-Hmmm…..why didn’t I think of that? Thnks for the suggestion, yo. Im gonna have to try that next time! I LOVE to cut and paste pretty much everything I can, so I appreciate you having more common sense thsn me!

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    hot cawfee
    Posted October 26, 2011 at 8:11 am

    @sassygirl— good point— the marketing of such a dope is incredible.–maybe Tre and Dina are such friends is not just b/c of the god-mother relationship—maybe Dina will have Tre on her show.
    Also Gin and Juicy’s fave saying “Happy wife, Happy life” is on a tee-shirt–did they market that as well?????
    Sadly– this is on again in half-hour and I will be watching it
    And Lastly ( to follow my Sadly)– I am really pissed about the weight-loss thing here— Albert had either gastric bypass or lap-band surgery resulting in his weight-loss. And didn’t Caro use Sensa??? I know Patti Stanger did—and Sensa is a Bravo advertiser–I am very sure I heard Caro say she used Sensa to lose weight—she also avowed in her firm voice it “was portion control”. So is Lauren is looking to lose weight thru her own means of diet and exercise rather than artificial ones–I applaud her for that.
    @Tmurda– congrats to you on sobriety—

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    hot cawfee
    Posted October 26, 2011 at 10:29 am

    OMG YOU GUYS—–Bravo has ordered more of Dina Manzo’s show—
    Just read it— I am betting both Tre and (yay!!!!) Brother Tats will be on it.

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    hot cawfee
    Posted October 27, 2011 at 8:56 am

    OMG YOUSE GUYS!!!!!
    Just read on Reality Tea—-Jacki was a stripper– yes I know this statement is anticlimatic— just need to see it here. I always thought she seemed very …..flexible.

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    NotWithoutMyTV
    Posted October 27, 2011 at 9:05 am

    They were all strippers. Caroline used to shake her moneymaker at a New Jersey speak easy back when a BJ was referred to as “A Night in Paris.”

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    NotWithoutMyTV
    Posted October 27, 2011 at 9:25 am

    Her working-girl name was “Sactimonious Sally”, and she always gave deep discounts to gangsters.

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    Jason
    Posted October 27, 2011 at 9:35 am

    @baymenxpac – I don’t care if they went to Harvard or Bartending School or whatever. All I intended to say was that they’re not exactly high-achieving kids who deserve the ridiculous adulation by their a-hole Mom. For instance, when those two launched their “Sewer Water” at some fake “launch” party in NYC (as usual attended by only the cast and a few people who were paid to stroll in off the street), Caroline goes “Today, my sons take over the world!!!!!” Yeah, lady, by selling some junk that NO ONE wants, they’re turning into Steve Jobs and Bill Gates. Ditto for Albie flunking out of law school. And don’t get me started on the zaftig daughter who’s face is made up like a clown.

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    Tmurda
    Posted October 28, 2011 at 2:20 am

    @hotcawfee- THANKS! Comin up on 1 year.

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    Gypsy
    Posted October 28, 2011 at 11:20 am

    @ Tmurda-sorry took so long to get back…duty called.

    My pleasure. I too enjoy the art of cut and paste. Glad I could help!